So we all do agree this game is going to be bad, right? You can tell how this game is going to end up because before they talk about any in-game mechanics or even show gameplay, they mainly discuss how political, inclusive, and "progressive" this game is going to be.
>Yea Forums didnt care about this game until this was announced but we did, every week i'd see threads about this game, a good amount of people here are/were fanatical about it >but the old game was political! not in the sense they're making it about now, it had to do with fictional politics of fictional creatures. anarchs vs camarilla was a very grey and vague. this quote below by creative director Martin Ka’ai Cluney should show you this game wont be "grey" at all >"I don’t believe you can look at both sides of a political argument without understanding both sides. It’s easy to say this is good and this is bad. But it’s definitely taking some political stances on what we think are right and wrong. In terms of the main conflict what is interesting is it’s one of those truly balanced issues.” let me highlight >"But it’s definitely taking some political stances on what WE think are right and wrong." we are going to have left wing politics and forced lgbt+ acceptance shoved down our throat throughout the whole game
who can we contact via social media to say that if they go woke they'll go broke?
Hardsuit's track record is one of mediocrity HOWEVER They were acquired by paradox some time ago, given how these things go I imagine the only constant anymore is in the name
Alexander Brooks
I do have my own opinion, fucklord, is it truly that far fetched to think people in the same demographic to simultaneously be Yea Forums Yea Forums users and fans of the original game might have similar opinions?
Fuckin idiot
Brody Turner
Back to your containment board poltard.
Oliver Taylor
>game can be preodered one year in advance they are fucking desperate thats how you know its gonna be a trash cashgrab
Gavin Morgan
>we For someone so triggered by them, you are not using the proper pronouns
We don't know enough about the game yet. I doubt it will be ruined by any political ideology though. I'd be more concerned about whether the game is actually good.
Jordan Williams
I've waited 16 years for this game and you newfags aren't going to ruin it for me.
Nicholas Collins
Because Troika had such a great track record.
Zachary Rogers
THIS CANNOT CONTINUE
We need to talk to onegamer and quartening for help
wmwe are a legion bros! And sjw cannot win this one We are not going to stop until every choice is just a generic white guy and every girl is just there for the cock!
Christopher Stewart
No matter what anyone here says the devs are at least making a lot of good decisions gameplay wise.
Kevin Smith
Can't tell if you're serious and if you are go outside once in a while. Be sure to shower first.
Matthew Gonzalez
It's not she/he's fault that gamegate created a generation of "gamers" who live to piss and moan about inclusiveness over having decent games to play.
Adam Ortiz
aww fuck. They ruined another game.
Alexander Garcia
Whats this trend I see on twitter with people putting "he/him" shit on their profiles?
Hunter Perez
fuck off fag, you're in the minority here. Yea Forums is /pol/
Benjamin King
ITT: People who don't actually care about VTM
Isaiah Reyes
>Can't tell if you're serious It's obviously sarcasm.
Thomas Torres
>b-b-b-b-but VtM was never political! Spotted the newfag
There is something so sweet about the tears of people who cry about first person perspective. Maybe because they are such pedantic crybabies.
Charles Wilson
As long if it's not identity politics, I'm fine with it.
Asher Anderson
faggot cope
Jacob Reyes
you sound mad
Christian Russell
>Most recent game in the list was 5 years ago, most of them are around 10 years old Most of the team must have been changed by now and there, not to mention Paradox will have a hand in the developement as well. That doesn't mean it will be good, that just means the track record of the company is largely irrelevant in that case.
Aiden Rogers
fagot cope
Owen Long
It's fucking embarrassing for them, truly.
Some literally who had an opinion, this was enough for them to brigade Yea Forums for weeks.
If a few comments about politics is all it takes to trigger you, you're a bigger faggot than the gayest cocksucking femboy on Yea Forums.
Benjamin Carter
My problem is that I can tell the game will have a biased portrayal of it. I’d bet money right now that the Camarilla will be just pure evil and siding with them will give you a bad ending with the anarchs will be a shining beacon of love truth and justice
Jack Ramirez
Jesus.
Carter Wood
>making everyone an Islamic tranny is significantly different Is that the case for Vtmb2? God, that's frightening. Do you have a source for this?
John Russell
No one gives a shit what you are "OK" with, your opinions mean less than nothing. Shut up and stop expecting the world to give a shit about your opinions. Make a point about something first, then look for validation.
Jack Morris
God I fucking hate poltards stop crying about literally nothing all day
Easton Thompson
retarded fag
Thomas Russell
More like >SJWs and Trannies fuck up another franchise and cause it to fail.
Sebastian Ramirez
IMPALE ALL TRANNY VAMPIRES (sexually and then murderously)
Dylan Cook
but all games and indeed all pieces of cultures will have their own biased portrayal. Seems like you are whining that it would not pander to your own biases
Evan Brown
Same. Yea Forums 10 years ago would have loved this but it's spring break in most places so all the kids from /pol/ are loud.
Dylan Cooper
All people can do now is spectate and shitpost at this point. we don't even have gameplay footage and we already have pre-orders and dlc announced,
honestly seeing all the "muh /pol/" and "/pol/ BTFO" gets boring after a while.
Julian Russell
Massive migration from tumblr to twitter
Zachary Scott
>new sequel is announced >devs talk about how politics will be involved
Ugh, fuckin' /pol/ at it again.
Jaxson Walker
How can they ruin a game that's not even out yet
Ryder Jackson
They're cringepilled retards, not even the Yea Forums split could keep them in their hubbox board, they just need to let everybody know how fragile is their worldview.
Xavier Stewart
Like I want my dick banging away at a teratoma
Ryan Rogers
/pol/ was a mistake
Connor Cruz
pretty much this .
Daniel Cox
game was made by troika who are lefties, that said they had enough self awareness to give the player the choice. no real agenda pushing
also i'm sure you're the newfag, people spamming the same imgur gallery it's retarded. the game has a ton of exaggeration and racial stereotypes, but because it's written well it works.
if this game got released today the left would spam screenshots of andrei trying to cleanse the unworthy, sin bin and snuff tape quest would get flamed, the dialogues you have with blood dolls would be considered sexist, heather poe's questline would get shredded,...
also damsel's the most obvious parody but i guess you nerds don't read what you spam.
Landon Hughes
>oh no a game that has always leaned left has a political belief that's different than mine! Better rally the troops
This game is the ultimate fucking monkey paw for me. Up until now I would have killed for a Bloodlines sequel but it's being developed by a shovelware studio with paradox already jewing it up with DLC and endless shitposts about pronouns and political themes. This is why we can't have nice things.
Angel Miller
Cool, saw this post on 8ch. Upvoted it there
Robert Robinson
>fuck up another franchise Was it even a franchise besides some obscure board games? The video game was a failure.
Ryder Thomas
Ok guys, who of you made this?
Jack Myers
kys nazi bigot 2019 has no place for your kind
Logan Davis
I-is it time to RISE UP and show the world they better not mess with gamers?
John Martin
I apologize for the photo quality, but read this. He’s rebelling against his “misogynistic elders”, is a practicing Islam with “unabashed queerness”
if identity politics are a point of contention when game dev is concerned, then they've already failed.
mitsoda and ellison have both commented on being more respective of certain topics, not a good sign honestly.
since it implies bloodlines1 was troublesome, when it wasn't.
William Thompson
>anarchs vs camarilla was a very grey and vague literally freedom vs authorianism
>>"But it’s definitely taking some political stances on what WE think are right and wrong." the first one did this too, but in a very sarcastic way
Lincoln James
Retard that's from V5, which was written by White Wolf and not the Paradox writers that are working on VTM:B2. All the people responsible for that travesty were literally fired after they pissed off Chechnya.
The only deciding factor will be if the game is good, I don't give a fuck about who makes it. If it's some SJW whale that's behind the development and the game ends up good, then I'll applaud them like everybody else.
Sounds like a typical leftist rabble-rouser, where is the tranny part?
Gabriel Evans
Do you have a singleicious satisfact to snack that up? You don't, because you know absolutely no more about the game than anyone else. Retard.
Andrew Stewart
Why is it bad though?
Nolan Mitchell
“Freedom” vs authorianism is gray irl and shouldn’t be treated different just because the developers are leftists
Alexander Rodriguez
Ask Dice how they did
Ayden Gray
this
Jack Butler
I like to believe it's because people got sick of playing the same game every year with a different number slapped on
Nathaniel White
>Them You're not part of this community. The fact that your brigade these posts whenever they pop up and rage shows you're projecting.
Go shill some more contra points videos. Fag
Jacob Campbell
Why is OP using imported words from other sites?
Eli Mitchell
>there will be a mission where you fight KKK vampires >game end with you saving the world by killing vampire president trump >you proceed to celebrate your success with an awkward sex scene with someone of the same sex but opposite skin color and fat / only have 1 hand you read it here first.
Cooper Thomas
You'd be wrong.
Brayden Rogers
Yet it worked for CoD huh
Justin Torres
>the first one did this too, but in a very sarcastic way It made fun of all sides, maybe more-so of the anarchs.
Ultimately the player's choice of not following anyone is the best. Really exemplifies what Troika was all about, they put the player's views above their own.
is this new dev going to do the same? i'm not against SJW agenda if I can call it out and say it's shit
Blake Kelly
>Regarding the quote from Ka'ai where he said it's "politically charged" we use the setting to talk about a lot of different issues as a metaphor through the lens of the world of darkness - the game is about conflict - personal conflict and conflict between the new and the old. Our systems aren't really morality-based. You're a monster, your choices are more about if you're a redeemable monster or not.
If you think the SJW shit was the cancer in Dice and not the money-grubbing EA then you are just an idpol cucks like Resetera
Wyatt Hughes
me too, but the problem is, when 90% of the budget and dev time goes on political bs and pushing an agenda and only the last 10 minutes actually go on polish gameplay and improve mechanics, it will be shit. I bet they have more "narrative designers" than programmers.
Blake Miller
This. contrary to popular belief /pol/ isn't representative of all of Yea Forums.
Wyatt Allen
cope
Cooper Gutierrez
fuck this game. kill all trannies.
James Rodriguez
>when 90% of the budget and dev time goes on political bs and pushing an agenda How do you know that? Do you work there?
Jaxon Davis
sounds pretty cool
Aiden Torres
wtf guys how could this happen...the first game was so based and redpilled, too!
>when 90% of the budget and dev time goes on political bs and pushing an agenda You're really not helping your case here. There's NOTHING that say that this is going to be the case. There was nothing in the trailer that was going in that sense. Just don't add more fuel to the dumbfire.
Parker Myers
How so? All EA did was enable Dice, and their progressive cancer, do you think EA wanted them to make a flop?
The quality of /pol/ (and in turn whole 4ch) degraded so fucking bad after 2012, it's unbelievable. There used to be some thoughtful and constructive once in a while, but now it's literally just filled with retards who want to kill people and are unable to form posts longer than two sentences, with all the information and sources coming from infographics and 80 IQ youtube channels.
Brayden Martinez
I don't personally care about politics in video games, but any video game made in 2019 with politics in it will be nothing more than the devs trying to virtue signal how progressive they are by sacrificing everything about the story and characters to that end. The end result being that every character is a 0 dimensional cardboard cutout with no personality vomiting progressive propaganda.
Gone are the days where leftists could write about their politics, we now live in a world where all they can do is virtue signal.
Andrew Hill
Yes. EA intentionally kill studios.
David Cox
do we have to mention /pol/ every time a game gets slightly political?
Jose Watson
Sad, OP. You'll never be the persuasive, charismatic leader you hope to be.
Elijah Torres
The alt-right has been tardraging about games left and right for years now, and it definitely won't be the last. Shit, just wait until TLOU2 comes out.
Lincoln Evans
So umm... why exactly shouldn't you signal your virtues to others? Sounds pretty normal to me.
Noah Butler
I'm glad there are still sane people like you on here, user. I love you.
Pretty true, I believe there are quite a lot of people (like me) who used to browse /pol/ back in the day unironically and even share some of it's views, but the whole board turned into this idiotic caricature of itself there literally isn't any meaningful debate left. I've been there 5 years ago last time and it was alredy pretty shit, I can't imagine what it looks like now with all the shit that is spilling to other boards and ocassionally real life as well.
Thomas Turner
If it is the MAIN THING that the devs have been talking about, it’s clear to see that it’s what they’re focusing on. They’re not thinking outside the box or trying to improve the game quality, they’re thinking “how many gays can we pander to and sell the game?”
The first game was great because it was a labor of love, the original team has been replaced with soulless cash grabbers
Liam Butler
How old are you OP?
Josiah Powell
And those people are welcome to dispose of themselves at whatever time they find most convenient.
only reasonable thing in this whole thread have a (you)
William Thompson
every second spent on pushing agenda and political bs is one second less spent on making the game good. every dollar paid to narrative designer or LGBT representative is one dollar less spent on talented game dev who want to make the game better. there is a very strict time limit and tight budget to make a game, even if it's from an AAA company. now you do the math.
to make a good game, there should be absolutely fucking 0.0000 seconds spent on pushing political agenda. it's that simple.
Jackson James
Do yourself a favor and visit it just to get a little more perspective. It's absolute chaos and garbage now.
Joseph Harris
This is why giving an inch to these freaks never works, they’ll find some other reason to attack your shit, they’ll never be happy.
That said, there is no way a VTM game is going to be made in 2019 without full sub-Weimar tier degeneracy. Rail against it, complain about resetera trannies clapping, or blue hairs writing the game, it doesn’t matter. This was inevitable.
Logan Stewart
Vampire and World of Darkness were fucked since the sweejees scented weakness. World of Darkness as a whole isn't a franchise that can exist today, at least not on the scale they were hoping. They could have just told the whiners to fuck off but Paradox wants every dime they can get.
I got out of the tabletop relaunch early on. Between all the little blowups over unimportant shit, and the writers/team caving every single time, I knew it was doomed. And sure enough they started to rewrite things. Then that whole thing about the gay genocide blah blah. Honestly, I don't have much hope for the vidya either. I've turned back to weeb titles where you can still find some resistence to this shit, even if it is creeping in.
Historical record and fictional portrayal is seen as approval by these nutjobs, who are doomed to repeat mistakes that the former history would have taught them about. Vampire (and the wider WoD) is a fucked up place where human prejudice is just as much a horror and danger as any monster under the bed. Perhaps more. But that shit isn't allowed anymore.
>signal your virtues This is where you made a mistake. If they were your virtues, you wouldn't have to signal them. The whole point of virtue signaling is to pretend you have virtues when you don't.
William Cruz
I think its partially that a lot of the oldfags that were into this gay shit went to 8ch. Oldfags who stayed realized that this is literally a nonstop trend with /vpol/ newfag culture warriors getting triggered by everything.
Remember how assblasted retards got that RDR2 portrayed the KKK in a negative light?
Jonathan Perez
Sure, whatever, but give me more goth grill vampires. All games improve with goth girls.
This board is full of tranny lovers and obvious shills being paid by the game company to troll criticism of the game
Every company pays shills, it’s the new form of marketing, you’d be stupid to think people defending the sjw shit are representative of actual fans of the game
Joshua Phillips
Bitch this is not the first studio EA has murdered and this is not the last you fucking underage newfag
Xavier Foster
it's like a broken record, jesus, just kill yourselves/find another hobby
Brody Collins
leftists of the past were alright, self aware enough to consider other views as well.
game still has potential, at least I'm hopeful since mitsoda and avellone are onboard.
the issue with identity politics is if you're going to put them in any creative work you gotta be really fucking good at writing, how many good writers does the video game industry have? it's going to be a mess
Jace Smith
This graph single-handedly pinpoints the moment this whole site quality started spiraling to the shitcreak it's in right now.
Luke Baker
>Jobs on merit is bad unless its my merit Honestly these people just sound like screeching unemployed people mooching off the government.
Brandon Morris
It's pretty ironic that they call others snowflakes when they get triggered by a lot
Dominic King
Bf5 had the least amount of "money grubbing" features of an BF game in 5 years. Yes it was 100% about cramming women into it and they crying about it when there was a backlash.
Henry Barnes
>people are complaining about the emphasis on modern mental illness groups when the first game had this song in it
Said like a true faggot. You are basically saying that you care more about politics than the actual quality of the writing and the game itself. Get your head out of your ass and stop being such a whiny bitch. It's amazing how so many people on Yea Forums start crying by a few sentences and then blame the left for the same thing.
Leo Morris
It did. They made like 3 classics.
Evan Foster
She and Ishigami date when?
Jack Anderson
Just because you get some of tranny and fag friends to come here and shitpost doesn't mean you're part of the majority. You're just minority here. Leave OUR site.
sorry, but thats wrong. pol is Yea Forums.
Nathan Smith
i'll be the first to shit on them user but what you say is kinda incorrect.
as far as the game is concerned they've said there will be politics in terms of art vs commerce and technology vs tradition, these two themes seem pretty dope to me.
that said there's some other red flags, but i'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
Gabriel Williams
Now THIS is delusional.
Ryder Perry
Know your place, stormcuck.
Adam Foster
>sorry, but thats wrong. pol is Yea Forums. lol
Dominic Morris
this. the fact that they talk so much about politics and being inclusive is a HUGE red flag. I wouldn't mind if every single character in the game was gay, as long as I knew the devs actually focus on gameplay and making a good game out of love and not on pushing their agenda and creating a cheap political tool.
Connor Lewis
Don't have to. I'm not a mentally ill person.
Colton Richardson
The original VtMB was already biased, did you even play the game? >Nines saves you from getting executed >Jack gives you advice in the beginning when no one else gave a shit >Nines saves you again in Downtown from getting ambushed by the Sabbat >Nines helps you by fighting one of the werewolves in the area >Jack saves you by helping you escape when LaCroix calls the bloodhunt
Meanwhile the Camarilla do jack shit and Strauss is basically a non-entity throughout the game. LaCroix is objectively evil and Ming is objectively evil. The only positive note the Camarilla get is that Tung insists they are good but we never actually SEE them do ANYTHING, the only things we actually SEE are the Anarchs regularly helping us and the city
Jack Howard
VtMB is a classic. ToEE is a classic and the best TB RPG to date. I didn't like Arcanum all that much but it's also regarded as a gem.
That's 3/3, user.
Easton Hernandez
That song was about her pet mouse that she had to keep isolated because it killed its cagemate
John Sanchez
What the fuck? How does this person function in real life? This has to be roleplay.
Christopher Clark
>in 5 years That is such a low bar to compare
Julian Martinez
The gentleman gamer said they worked on V5 the same time as this game and that the game follows the rules of V5
Jonathan Lee
Imagine being this paranoid about video games
Ethan Reyes
>Discord trannies projecting again. Aren't you the ones shilling your tranny youtube dudes all the time? Or shilling your marxist nonsense.
There is a reason everyone on this sites hates you. You're an annoying vocal minority.
Thanks, sadly I think people like me don't post often enough to really show that there isn't this hivemind opinion on all the things on this board because most of us alredy have shit to do in our lives and don't really care about improving or contributing to the quality of this site, given the unbelievable force of the shit tide that immediatelly gets released when you voice a different opinion in some threads, but I'm pretty sure most of us are still browsing.
Logan Ross
How did EA murder it you are you just repeating plebit bullshit. They murder themselves by not focusing on what made their games interesting and hiring incompetent devs, I bet you believe Bioware did nothing wrong either and it was all bad EAs fault
Ayden Stewart
>sorry, but thats wrong. pol is Yea Forums. All I see is OP constantly replying to anyone that offers a different opinion
Jacob Hall
Or maybe people are tired of /pol/ making this site even worse
Daniel Long
Literally same fag circle jerking.
Ethan Phillips
this is all true. The only things they did to anarchs is make them into easily annoyed assholes who insult you, but when it comes to action and not words, the anarchs usually help you out without you even asking.
Liam Carter
keep seething, stormcuck
Carter Russell
>technology vs tradition, these two themes seem pretty dope to me. Yeah, I've wanted to see them tackle the issues of tech for a while. There are still red flags but it has potential.
Kayden Gomez
Your need to create this thread to somehow tell us this is an issue suggests otherwise, OP.
Yea Forums = /pol/ + hobby, Now run along and dilate.
William Reed
Needs a masquerade violation popup
Owen Cruz
By limiting funding, accelerated timetables and indulging in bullshit like always onlines and lootboxes. Game developers may be retarded, but what EA is doing isn't.
Please, go back to the shitty places you came from, nobody likes you here, not because of who you are, but because you're retarded enough to say shit like that.
Jason Butler
this they NEVER made a good game and like OP said, writing wont be able to save it this time
Camden Sanchez
I'm no op nig.
Henry Lopez
>it is another lets pretend /pol/ is the main board instead of the containment board It is more like anime plus everything else
Kevin Gray
How mentally ill do you actually have to be to make a post like this?
Jack also doesn't tell you what you're up against, he keeps you in the dark the whole game.
Not sure what your point is about Camarilla though, Lacroix is portrayed as bad but he's also a way for the developer to force you to do all the quests. I mean he straight up uses dominate on you if you wanna gtfo out of there. Strauss is great, and his ending is 2nd best.
game was biased, troika was a company full of lefties but they didn't push it and they always gave the player the ultimate choice. you can tell everyone to fuck off and you go your own way, teh best ending.
wish we had more game devs like troika who recognized that player choice = king
Those exact same self-aware leftists are still around. The problem is that with video games becoming more and more commercial and less about art or passion project, these progressive SF hipsters who are leftists only because it's trendy have pretty much stacked the corporations that make video games through nepotism. They make up nearly 100% of the writing staff, and they are ridiculously bad at writing. So bad that they make XXXbloodyrists666XXX look like a literature genius.
Mason Peterson
VtMB already had a biased portrayal of Republicans. The game regularly mocked them and never mocked Democrats, they didn't even pull a GTA where they go >HURR DURR LE BOTH SIDES R DUM XD
Juan Perez
BASED post
Carter Hall
White Wolf is SJW shit. Paradox Interactive are also SJW shit, in addition to being jews in the financial sense. Combine them and get the Triple jew. Game was never going to be good.
Sebastian Sanchez
behold the master race
Julian Hill
I'm already at home, you fucking faggot.
James Ramirez
Wrong.
Aaron Brown
>if you're an alt-righter put this book down! "Woah, dude you're right wing? That's really way too out for us, the designers of a game that includes an entire clan of vampires who get extreme pleasure in twisting the flesh and bone of their victims into agonizing poses!"
Adam Green
ITT: /pol/ trying to troll trolls that have trolled far longer than they have
Levi Smith
You're a humongous faggot and you're a prime example of what I've been saying here for years. Games have been political before and you're letting literal who's on Twitter bother you so much with progressive idpol bullshit and memes and have a selective memory of games that absolutely reveled in satirizing neo-conservatives and fundamentalists back in the 2000's when they were the butt of every joke.
Fuck you. Fuck off and fuck this fucking cuckpilled bitch tear overflowing board.
Nathaniel Howard
>Ad hominem >Strawman >Causal fallacy
Is this the level of argumentation /pol/ is used to these days?
Dismissed.
Brayden Martinez
Neither Anthem nor BFV had limited funding, their budget was much higher than the previous titles, I'll agree on lootboxes but they alone don't make a game suck
Jose Hughes
>that thing >she/her >ventrue maybe it's malkavian that thinks it's ventrue and female.
There is no reason to assume that the new game will take away your player choice you retard, nor was it his point
Josiah Smith
>really liked by girls >they pretend to be philosophical and conscious about life when in reality is just an excuse to dress flamboyant >almost everyone in it is bicurious drags are today equivalent of goth culture, get with the times
Thomas Rodriguez
Who gives a fuck, you all come in the same colour of retarded.
Anthony Wood
/pol/ is here to recruit more suggestible gamers to serve their stormie masters with them. Be careful.
Anthony Walker
The timetable for Anthem and BFV was accelerated. Unfinished products
Colton Ramirez
When your depression of all this lefty bullshit leaves you at the brink of suicide, remember me before pulling the trigger/cutting yourself/ leaping off the bridge.
Adam Butler
Do you fags seriously never stop spamming this shit? Every time someone doesn't fall in line you freak out about /pol/. Do you think Yea Forums was some progressive tranny safe space before /pol/ existed?
