Why is this allowed?

>Marketing. Analytics
Layoffs are lame as fuck. That said, if these folks are the ones responsible for shitshow like BFV (along with DICE of course) than I’m not surprised

Do you believe in market crashes? You're in one.

NICE. Fuck EA. People working for them deserve to have their lives ruined.

maybe because they don't need anymore people like pic related?

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Sad part is, when stuff like this happens, it usually affects people who are the least to blame for bad games, marketing, sales etc.

This is what piracy does.

Good, get rid of those muh diversity and slam all that money and effort into game development

Turn off your adblock for a day and see how wrong you are

>marketing
NO MORE EA SHILL POSTS!!!

This just pay some faggot streamer a few millions

>dying
An industry can't die if it still has demand, retard underage.

But those weren't the people fired. they fired analysts and marketers.

Epic Games Store is easily the best thing to happen to vidya so these jerks are wrong.

Spring shedding.
You remove the useless&excess fat.

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Now that I'm fired I don't have to shill for EAs horrible games.

Marketing , Publishing , Analytics ! Oh look the prime job positions in gaming industry for SJW leeches and "gaming journalist" types. Reminder Activison laid off 800 marketing positions and opened new positions for ACTUAL DEVELOPERS , hope EA can now have some positions for people to actually make games , but even if they dont and just keep the profits they did good with this move. Learn to code

Yeah, because analytics, publishing and marketing are full of SJW's and not right-leaning capitalists. It's the women suffocating video games, not corporate investors with focus group data and shoving product placement into any gameworld with a big enough mouth to swallow it.

wh*tes FEAR this post

At will employment? Because freedom of association is an implicit right guaranteed by the 9th Amendment.

>being a “social media expert”
>being public relations
>being an influencer
>get laid off for having a useless role in the company
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

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>2015
>diversity pings on a lot of marketing AIs
>every company and their mother ignores experience and hires soley because "they skin color different"
>2019
>these low experience workers aren't bringing in enough money for the company they have to go

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heh learn to cod....oh

>public relations is a useless roll
I know v/ is retarded when it comes to business but jesus fucking christ

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nothing of value was lost.
useless shit flushed down the toilet. hopefully all of those good-for nothing dance therapy and women studies majors will now learn how to code

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They're just finally being identified as wasted salaries

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGG
NONONONONONONONONONOJONONONONONONOOOOO

The best way to make your company look like it's still rising is to get rid of a couple 100 million dollars in employees. For whatever reason companies have to always look like they're at at least a 8% growth or the share holders assume the company is failing. The sad part is it's always the people on the bottom of the totem pole that suffer while the rich get the fat checks at the end of the year.

I wish I could lynch every retard that works in PR and HR.

>needing 100+ people for PR
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH. NONONONONONONONONO

>PhD in romantic comedies

As if going for a PhD wasn't already retarded enough.

t.PhD student

we really do just need more no lifers who play games all day to actually make good games. gamers please, RISE THE FUCK UP, take back what is yours.

Ubisoft Milan and Montpellier are pretty good.

If I was in charge at ea I’d have fucking fired the whole pr and marketing team years ago. You shouldn’t be okay with your marketing technique being hated by your consumers. I mean if it actually worked as well as ea likes to pretend then anthem would be the number one game of all time.

>t. angsty non-white

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>This brutal year

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People who love videogames shouldn't make videogames. It's what ruined movies and comics.

incompetent managers

Activision is holding Crash and Spyro hostage, unfortunately.

>marketing, publishing, analytics
And nothing of value was lost.

What's "brutal" about laying off people who don't actually make games?

>. The sad part is it's always the people on the bottom of the totem pole that suffer
Yeah the actual programmers and artist who are stressed by deadlines, not useless community manager and thought-komissar/diversity officer.
The later will find another company to leech on soon enough.

You don’t need 350 people to do shit like ME:A’s “I’m only human after all” or the terrible E3 press conferences or Battlefield V’s “if you don’t like diversity, we don’t want you” PR campaign.

>Western game developers are finally realizing going woke makes you broke
Holy shit

The marketing and analythics were a joke. And publishing? Just look at the release sates! They made competition for themselfes. What retards! Also did you like the lootboxes, dlc and other stuff? That what marketing did, and analytics supported them sayin this is what the costumer wants. Its better this way.

Here we go bois this shit its crashing im so happy

Is that a Trump pixelshit game?
Can I play it? I want to cringe

>woke
>broke
Because Apex Legends and RDR2 were massive flops right?

Hello, my fellow white people

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Don't bother, place is filled with actual children and manchildren who think the world is run on identity politics.

>Anthem bombed
>BF5 bombed
why are people so surprised, they were probably hired as support for these games in the first place

I'd fuck the blondie hard.

APEX was free and RDR2 wasn't "woke" at all it was as politically neutral as it could possibly be

Leftist SJW antifa faggot cucks have NO PLACE in vidya. They are not marketing to new audiences because their care no new audiences. Their marketing demographic is 99.99% fucking white males, that's the reality unless you're willing to genetically engineer non-whites into playing games other than Street Fighter and Marvel.

>(((white)))

I've fucked girls like that it isn't a very good time. They're extremely selfish and aren't into experimentation whatsoever. It's a bad time all around and they will insist it's your fault.

>corporate culture
>right-leaning
spotted the totally out of touch bernie supporting retard

>RDR2 wasn't woke
pfffthahaha

>free game

>not a flop by default

Also

>implying RDR2 was received purely on it's own merits and not because it was the sequel of a hugely popular WHITE MAN simulator

>politically neutral
>help suffragettes, Arthur at best being cynical
>pre-written as an anti-racist
>muh white man steal our land
>greedy industrualists are parasites
>says degenerate every 5th word

Megan looks cute.

We're entering a Recession that's going to make 2008 look like a minor correction.

>They pay a streamer half a mil to promote the game and make millions in the same period.
>Anthem just somehow made EA 100mil
forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2019/03/22/what-to-make-of-anthems-surprise-100-million-in-digital-revenue/
yeah, can't be that they're following the same marketing trend as fucking meme restaurant like Denny's. Put one relateable autist in charge and they'll accomplish what an entire team can't.

Maybe they now are only laying off those employees who suggested to not advertise "diversity" as the main selling point of future games.

>Be math nerd who works for greedy EA jews
>Tell them to ignore Apex Legends and instead spend lots of money advertising Anthem
>Anthem ends up being a disappointment while Apex exceeds expectations
>Be surprised when they fire you for being incompetent
Those idiots got what they deserved

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>For whatever reason companies have to always look like they're at at least a 8% growth or the share holders assume the company is failing
>for whatever reason
The US govt mandates quarterly earnings reports. This, combined with cheap credit from the Fed, is why so many industries are concerned with short term gain and don't care about long term investing. It's the govt, stupid. It always is and always has been. Then people like you vote them even more power when they promise to fix it.

Streamers made marketing obsolete

>laying off the marketing team
Dunno sounds like we might actually be pulling out of the shit swamp we're currently in
when marketing and investors gain too much power they ruin games

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Women voting and native Americans having their land stolen are not comparable to modern SJW issues

You’re right. In today’s world he’d be considered alt-right.

So what? Neither of these series has had a good game in decades. And no, remakes of the handful of good games they did have long ago don't count.

>Implying EA will divert that money anywhere but in the pockets of its CEO

FUCK NIGGERS

this. I've heard countles devs talk about how their games were ruined by marketing reps going
>oh sorry testing shows we need to include X to sell more

>Math nerd
I highly doubt they have ever done something harder that highschool statistics. Even the average fa/g/ has done some basic calculus.

Naive
Bingo

I'm gonna have to side with him on this, RDR2 isn't woke. It tries really hard to be apolitical to the point that it stops making sense at times, yes but it isn't woke in any sense. Also not everyone was a cunt to suffragettes otherwise they wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

Anthem was only critically panned as it should have because it's fucking garbage, as far as revenue though it's already on track to making back it's $130mil and already exceeded $100mil in revenue.

>have a useless position in a faceless corporation
>inevitably layed off
>HOW IS THIS ALLOWED. UNIONIZE. CAPITALISM FAILED. REEEE

Marketing team doesn't need 350 people.
Publishing doesn't need 350 people.
Analytics doesn't need 350 people.

Fuck, even 50 people can be to many for any of those departments.

Corpos now understand this, but twitter socialists just can't.

Want a stable job in the games industry with great prospects? Learn to draw, model or code, you fucking monkey.

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What an idiot, marketing is literally a cesspool of fags and trannies.

Rdr2 has nothing like the hype of previous Rockstar efforts that have rocked the world. If you remember when GTA 3: Vice city came out it was mega. It had a palpable buzz about it where mainstream newspapers would write about it in the main pages. Rdr2 may be a tremendous technical achievement, but it hasn't shattered windows. Non gamers don't even know about it. It isn't selling consoles. The core of old school gamers are tired of being duped. The indy scene unironically have better games, if more fun= better. Sjw trendies have shaken things up, no one wants to be preached to by faggy graduates living in an intellectual bubble world. Games are supposed to be colourful and fun. They are escapist entertainment, not artsy fag shit taking itself too seriously. No one cares about the social agendas of pink haired tweens. Specially not after a hard days work, something lanklet vegans will never understand. They fail to appreciate the it's the consumer who needs to be satisfied with the product, not themselves.

>Have millions wasted on trash like marketing instead of spending them on making a good game.
>Make games shittier because they must appeal and sell to normalfags
>Not to blame

too bad they won't use the money saved to improve the gameplay of future games

>Brutal year
Uhhh... The only people that have been getting laid off are people that don't actually WORK on video games and just tweet at people.

What? Please explain.

>marketing, publishing, analytics
So useless jobs which didn’t even need to exist in the first place. Reminds me of “social media strategist”

>He cares about EA games

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>social media strategist
>That time big companies hired tons of these retards and got blown the fuck out in marketing by Wendy's - who did nothing but hire some 18 year old loser that shitposts all day.

WTF, nobody said RD2 was a "woke" game. Is this more tranny revisionism?

learn how to mine coal.

2017 was overrated.

Fuck off pete Hines you stupid useles fuck

>got blown the fuck out in marketing by Wendy's - who did nothing but hire some 18 year old loser that shitposts all day.

And probably does it for free burgers.

Is that why the stock market rose over 100 points today? What do you care you're unemployed anyway.

When fans and people who grew up loving the medium of comics and movies grew up and got into the industry they ruined both by doing very little beyond rehashing or writing fan fiction because they were both unimaginative and had to much reverence to the past.

I'm glad they're targeting the non-artistic portions of their companies.

Yes, and almost every crime in america can be traced to black people.

Want to keep playing the retarded mindflip game or do i need to go to the muslims as well?

Basically where all the non productive workers are, aka the women they hired for diversity quotas.
They sure as fuck aren't going to lay off programmers, artists, etc.

>marketing, publishing, analytics
probably a good thing senpai.

What has Megan Starks done wrong?

>Marketing, Publishing, Analytics
Suits don't know anything about their consumer base, they have to rely on those faggots to know what to do. Just now the suits realised they are actually losing money because those faggots have been lying to them to promote their agendas. They deserve to be fired.

And all problems in the world can be traced back to Africa since that was the birthplace of humanity. Bad move on their part.

All the women are in HR.

>yfw your gaming experience for the year is great because of Ace Combat 7

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this

Who fucking cares?

>who think the world is run on identity politics.

I'm not sure what you define as politics bro but if a niche group of people campaign to have changes done and then they're done on a mass scale that is in fact the world being affected by identity politics. Are you a neckbeard that lives in a bubble stuck in a apartment or something or doesn't keep up with recent affairs? Maybe you got some growing up to do.

>One of the biggest companies trims off some fat
Good. Honestly, people act like every single person that works in game development is some saint, deserving of the position they be in and hold some irreplaceable creative significance. It's a god damn job. If they're good and passionate, someone else will pick them up. Otherwise, they'll fall off and honestly none will be the wiser.

How is apex "woke"? Because it has some lore shit that has nothing to do with the game that panders to journos? Nobody cares about it, aside from journos.

Their success is thanks to buying every streamer, good luck pulling this shit off if you don't have EA's money. Saying that one character is gay and another is an attack helicopter was a stategic brownie points grab as an added bonus.

Also,
>RDR2
>Woke

In what way, exactly?

Literal stockholme syndrome franchises both of them, the first proper sony platformers came with the dynamic duo fad for the PS2

I always find it funny you tannies pick game nobody said was woke or a free to play game as proof go woke get broke. Is wrong.

You've no idea, do you?

Jews aren't white.

I was waiting for this reply.

240 of them could be fucking forum shills for all we know.

>is that why
Uhh... yes. It is. What the fuck do you think preceeds a recession? Why am I asking? You don't know anything about economics.

better hope a university is hiring to teach a course

it was literally the 3rd reply, you retard

Depends mate, when I was working with Honda they do value these shit. I recently left GE, they value ass kissers more than your piece of paper.

Every time this happens I think of my girlfriend when she tells me about the HR department where she works and how useless 99% of all corporate positions are and I just can’t bring myself to care these people lose their jobs.

If they weren’t completely useless at life I’d feel worse, but I’d sooner mourn the layoff of an electrician or a plumber than I would 20 marketers.

Because marketing is a money dump that clearly didn't help save BF2, Anthem, or any of their other recent bombs, plus their actual moneymaker FIFA doesn't need marketing to succeed because it sells itself

>laying off people who don't make games and have been making games worse for the past decade because their analytical data for gamings targeted demographic has caused a gaming recession
HMMM, I WONDER WHY THEY GOT LAID OFF, HMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

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Yeah man, capitalism totally works when there are no limits.

But EA is a scab on the gaming industry that should've been removed ages ago

we live in a bubble society

oy vey, not the marketers and publishers

Why are they spinning this as something significant?

Wasn't there a thread earlier this morning with wagies boasting about doing 2 hours of actual work per day? I wonder if one of them got layed off lmao

>marketing, publishing, analytics
So just a bunch of white collars who know nothing about video games? Good riddance.

They're removing bullshit jobs.
businessinsider.com.au/bullshit-jobs-australia-2018-7

Oh please forgive me I didn't notice, user

It does. I know your propaganda-addled mind has been conditioned to associate capitalism with slavery and child labor and pollution and shit. How convenient for the people who own you. They're the shining aegis standing between you and rapacious self-interest. Sacrifice yourself. You mean nothing. The group is what matters.

>can finall fuck off and leech on somebody else' s hobby.
They're in EVERY hobby, user. Yea Forums /tg/ Yea Forums and Yea Forums will tell you the same

I love how the hate train entirely missed this post. So much this tho.

If you knew the correct answer why did you make a false statement?

Oh I know a lot about economics, I know that the data shows we aren't heading into "a recession bigger than 2008" which shows me you don't have a clue. GDP growth wage growth and job growth at worst show a cooling like in 2012-16.

They meant brutal for devs of shit games.

What false statement did I make? I'm not the user who posted about m-muh hwite people.

It actually does very well. Check out China and Dubai.

Jews are not whites, you stupid nigger

>Yeah, because analytics, publishing and marketing are full of SJW's
yep

>marketing
Good riddance, the sooner we put an end to the exorbitant marketing budgets in all of the entertainment industry the sooner money can be funneled into worthwhile departments.

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Just learn to code ;)

>marketing
>analystics

Holy shit thats actually good news, now they'll either hire someone more competent or stop listening to these hacks.

>cites GDP as a metric of economic health
Yeah and back in 07 useful morons like you said the exact. same. shit. Citing the same cooked figures produced by the same elite with the same vested interests. Right up until the crisis you were doing exactly this.

We should help them out by hiring them as 4channel moderators!

>tech companies
>right leaning

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That jews are greedy.

its very interesting that they'd fire their marketing people

whenever EA shits out terrible games, their marketing is what makes them hit those "real" numbers

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These are the speciments infiltrating the companies and firing the actually competent people, retard.

Uh yeah GDP growth literally gauges on if we're in a recession or not.

The housing crisis was being predicted for a long time. Bush tried to make changes to the Glass law but nobody wanted to play ball.

There is no such "bubble" happening right now that would cause that much capital to leave the market.

>No actual Devs
Good riddance.

>Caring about marketing drones
You people are killing the industry.

I love how industry experts blame the market for their failures.

It couldn't possibly be that nobody makes good single player games anymore, that's why people aren't interested. Even their supposed P2W cashshops are failing because they are also trash.

Just come to terms with the fact that you are unable to make good games and generate interest.

because they signed a contract that stated in advance the possibility of such an event

2017 was shit tho?

There's like hundreds of video games that come out every year. There's no fucking way anyone could play any fraction of them with any depth and it fractures the online community so that it becomes impossible to find a multiplayer game for anything that isn't the gay SHOOTAN flavor of the week.

This is good. Let the bubble pop.

GDP growth counts govt spending. It never has been an actual measure of economic health. If your retardation was true, all we'd have to do is spend a trillion dollars a second on rusty spoons and we'd enter nirvana.

>GDP growth counts govt spending. It never has been an actual measure of economic health.
imagine being this stupid and believing this. I have over 395k invested in the market now, I think I'm little more well versed than you.

We had one of the highest relative GDPs during WW2, which saw most of the economy being diverted away from actual production and into blowing up krauts and enslaving our own people. Only an absolute sheep buys this keynesian horse shit.

it's fine in Japan

Are you denying that GDP accounts for govt spending? Then you're proof that investors don't need to know fucking anything.

Remember this (you) when (you)'re wiped the fuck out next year.

>Are you denying that GDP accounts for govt spending
No i'm not, I'm denying that you feel GDP is "bullshit to gauge economic health".

I'll just put more money in like I did in early 2009.
Paid for my Porsche Cayman S.

Because Japan barely pays people working on vidya a living wage.
>$2k/mo to live in Tokyo

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haha yess

run on back home to your corn states please

It was probably diversity hires from the Anthem team

> EA
> marketing, publishing, analytics

Are they finally purging sjw bullshit from their company?

How many devs actually live in Tokyo and don't just commute?

Fact is, you can't just churn out games out of a conveyor belt like you can burgers or movies (apart from sports games). It's an industry that takes more effort interact with so your time with them is more meaningful, e.g. you can't just let a game play in the background, you have to pay attention to it and actually find it interesting unlike a mediocre movie.

Don't blame anybody else but yourself if your games are uninteresting trash. All gamers can instinctually tell if the developers themselves play games or not and enjoy them (EA doesn't)

Cringe

the workdays are long, the communite would be long, so youre pretty much fucked. So those people just live in internet cafee booths

Even if they live 400mi out in the sticks, the cost of commute time/cost into tokyo would make that hell.

After Apex Legends' release they realized that lots of marketing is pointless. People didn't even know about that game until a couple days before it's release and I wouldn't be surprised if it's one of their more successful titles in recent years.

my friend worked at EA, in marketing analytics. he quit about a year ago, awful culture. I wonder if he would have been laid off.

> 350 Marketing, Publishing, Analytics

And nothing of value was lost.

Get woke, Go Broke.

Who cares?

I don't see what's wrong. Companies layoff people all the time. What's so special about the video gaming industry?

It's a brutal year for those who leech on the gaming industry and make it worse every year. The people who make good videogames are just fine

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how do you deny a feel?

Yes....”white”...

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Yes. I work in the industry.

All the SJW shit came from Analytics and marketing. Both decided that SJW was the way to go. Exec's gave them a shot. They failed.

Expect the next year to be more of the same, simply due to inertia. Expect 2020 to see substantial changes, especially with the BF series. Keep in mind that its strictly SJW stuff, games will still be casualized, but thats the way of things. If you really want to know what broke it, it was the battle royals that did it, they proved you dont need it to sell, you just need core gameplay.

Actual game dev here. Can’t speak for other companies but most of our SJWs/NPCs are in marketing, analytics and art/design to a lesser extent.

>oversaturating the market with leftist ideology so retardedly forced that you turn the whole world against leftists
>not a right winger tactic
kek

well it's not working is it.

Didn't an article about ninentdo just state that the average wage at ninty was about ~7000 USD or something?

>Turn off your adblock for a day
Why? Even stupid normalfags are getting sick of ads.

It depends on company. At far as I know Nintendo is one of the much more employee friendlier companies of Japan.

Where the basedbois are doing in a dev team? Cleaning tables?

That's not how that works

Because their friend circles job security is under threat. A lot of former Kotaku, PCgamer and Gamer Network people got cushy jobs working for game studios after the game blog industry started dying.

it actually is tho
just look at the election results of every democracy right now

I would agree up to a point. But that has more to do with the fact that the left is insane.

how could you possibly care about this

>Marketing
>Analytics
Maybe it has more to do with the fact that neither of those disciplines can fully function with out data mining and the data mining trend is played out.

Also publishing and marketing is redundant when you publish your own games on your own platform (Origin)

>laying off marketing and analytics
smartest thing ea has ever done
overpaid shills who don't really know what they're doing and they're in the wrong business
i hope they're joining inafune in crying like anime fans on prom night