Did he ruin PC gaming?

Did he ruin PC gaming?

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Not yet, but he's trying

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>whiny pc babies
Get rekt fucks.
Welcome back to the era of 3rd exclusives Nintendo created.

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Nah, EGS isn't even a fad. It's just retarded shills spamming this shit non-stop everyday. Only Fortnite kids care about that store.

>reddit meme
>nintendofag
>reddit spacing

Steam already ruined pc gaming during late 2000's. Back then physical games were a thing on PC and not just a piece of cardboard with a steam key.

>physical games
You know everything PC related abandoned that legacy tech that has no reason to exist, right? I work on video editing and it's all internet and pen-drives now.

Steam got nothing to do with that. It's the publishers will. Also, I'm glad about the digital media, don't want lots of gaming stuff around my room.

>not understanding sarcasm
>caring about what gif someone uses
You need to get out more user

JUST A PRANK BRO

Nah, just trying something. I applaud what he's trying to do, but I don't really like the effect it's having.

you need to fuck off,newfriend

He's definitely trying to fuck with it. The longer Fortnite remains huge the better chance he'll have.

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Digital games were a big complain back, give it some time and people will accept the fact that Steam isn't the only digital store available.

>giving a shit about epic
piracy still exist

>papa franku
>reddit
no

At the rate they are buying exclusivity deals, no matter how much Fortnite makes them, they'll be eating rice and beans in a year, two at best.

No, I did

Anything making valvefags go back to consoles where they belong is good for PC gaming.

nah, social justice ruined PC gaming
he just dropped the facade and exposed the rot

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I hope somebody firebombs his ass into oblivion.

>bring exclusivity cancer to pc
Yep. He also looks like someone into cuck porn

I dont think Epic did. They're giving grants out to poorfuck devs like me who just need some funding to make their games happen. I hope I get accepted.

Why does he look like he's about to snap at any moment?

> the developers should control the means of distribution
> the workers should control the means of production
you don't get more social justice than that

He has a pretty punchable face.

No, but I did.

>Paying devs so that i don't have to feel bad for them when i pirate
He is based as fuck

Who cares about any of that? I just don't want them making "unconventionally attractive" (ugly) female characters. They can have a literal Josefine Stalin in their game and as long as she's pretty and rocking deep cleavage, she can spout whatever ideological nonsense she wants, i don't care.

>exclusivity
>game is still on PC no matter what

>game is exclusive to one launcher
> worst service that provides worst community tools
>a anti consumer spyware service
>you are blocked from using a better digital store if you want to play the most recent AAA game
>not cancer

If you have used unreal engine you would realise that epic are going to help small developers and are currently every month they buy out some store contributers item and release it to the communtiy free. Thats lover 200usd worth of assets for developers.
The only people who are actually upset are consumers who dont want to leave their bubble and help the industry progress.
Hopefully steam gets off their buns and updates the steam engine for developer use but I think that may be wishful thinking.

ok chang

No one minds their engine work and I personally really enjoy and use UE4, what people complain about is their cancerous store practices.

because once the developers no longer have to answer to you, the customer, they will not even try to make anything that you want any more
instead they will produce stuff that their new owners, the social justice bureucrats, demand that they make, and they will make EVERYTHING as awful as they can just to prove the developers no longer answer to the customers

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No, it'll take more than one freedom hating retard that also hates PC players to ruin PC gaming. Most of the games on the store aren't real exclusives, and when companies that are being half-funded by Epic realize that they aren't really their friends they'll release their games on other stores again.

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Isn't steam working on improving their store now? The current client is slow as shit, forcing them to improve is pretty okay

>they will not even try to make anything that you want any more
Where have you been for the last 5 years?

>TERR DEM DAT ROU DO NOT BOW DOWN TO DA CHINESE

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saying the same thing and getting shadowbanned for it

You're just bitching at this point. Gears4 and Forza are exclusive to the Microsoft Store, Apex on Origin, Division2 on Uplay, Blizzard on Battlenet, etc, etc, etc. If you're not happy then just crack the game or don't play it.

He's saving it
/thread

Except those are first-party games. Epic didn't develop any of the games they are poaching for their store, that's the only issue people are complaining about, anything else is just you trying to downplay that legitimate argument.

Yeah I get it they have put a strangle hold on IP and the store layout is fucking awful but its not that different from how the steam store started or that shitty origin launcher.

Honestly it will get better in time and the big picture is helping games/devs.

No but he's trying his best to. Games being pulled from steam shortly before release due to bribes is just going to force Valve to put new rules in. Besides all this fuck does is drone on about the developers and not the consumers.

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It's not like you can't add non-steam games to steam. That way you still have your friends and your steam launcher and interface.

He's trying really hard.
His business plan is awful though, it'll end up really hurting Epic in the end.
When the money runs out and they stop paying for exclusivity,
Indie devs aren't going to stay with Epic, the audience right now is on Steam, the one advantage Epic has is that it has no fucking games so the few games on it are highlighted, if indies move over, this'll be irrelevant especially with how poorly laid out the store is.
AAA devs won't stay, they'll either move back to Steam if sales drop (like Bethesda did) or they'll move over to only using their own store if they don't drop (like Ubisoft will).
You can already this happening, look at the store, very few developers are supporting it that aren't paid off.
Sweeny should have used the fortnite bux to hire 2000 pajeets to code him a better store and API, but it's too late how, he's fucked himself.

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>Still have to launch Epic's Chinese botnet

Epic makes the unreal engine. If its made with UE4 They kinda did help develop the game.

Nintendo has won

You cant consume if no one develops

The money isn't going to run out. The money is from the engine, Fortnite is a bonus

Is he just gave customers 10% off new games this wouldn't be a problem but instead he tried to fuck with the consumer. With fortnite starting to die off we'll see how long the store holds

he looks like Mr. Sark.

Chink use this guy to make sure CPY keep releasing cracks.

Let's lock down every game made in an engine to their respective engine stores then, surely that's going to be great and not cancerous at all.

When was the last time you saw a valve game outside of steam.

He looks like a downier version of Stephen King.

Good job at missing the point entirely. You're so ignorant of the issue that it really is pointless in talking to you about it.

I don't even want to know what a person has to go through to develop a mindset that believes that someone doesn't own a house because they bought someone else's tools to build the house with.

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he looks like a chink wanna be

Again, that's a first-party game, Valve owns the platform, they can choose to put their own games on it and only sell them there. Nobody is complaining that Fortnite is exclusive to the Epic Store.

he's just another american selling other americans to foreigners

we've all been enslaved by the top 0.1% and now we're being sold to the highest bidder

he seems like ur tipical socialist dude , great ideas for a lot of people sadly they wont work in the real world

But you dont buy the tools. They loan you the tools with the promise to buy the tools once the house is done and if you build on their block they will cut you a sweet deal for the tools.

No one ever said anything about first party games or ever complained about Epic's games being on the Epic Launcher, stop trying to argue with a strawman because it just makes you look very disingenuous and won't convince anyone.

>Socialist
>Developers will decide the storefront war, not consumers
He literally only cares about money and not the user experience.

>He looks like a retard

Why am I not surprised ?

If you host your game on epic you get a better cut and if its built with UE4 you get that subsidized as well. Its just logically better for a developer who uses the engine to have it in the epic store. Then after the timer is up plonk it on steam.

didnt u read his lates interview ? its sounds pretty socialist to me

>Its just logically better for a developer
It's not logically better, what's logically better is maximizing your audience and letting them pick their favorite stores which will make them more likely to buy your game, which is why literally no one limits their games to a single store unless they are paid to do so or have their own store they want to promote, it's simple business.

The entire idea that the consumer matters at all is bullshit, consumers have constantly proven over and over in every medium that all they care about is getting the item they want and everything else is tertiary. From cable TV channel exclusivity, to Netflix exclusivity, to radio channels, food brands, whatever. If you offer the thing they want they'll bend over for it. Steam itself was proof of that as they completely normalized DRM, by demanding an install of it if you wanted to play the most popular single player or multiplayer games (HL2, CS) on PC and everyone eventually just bent over and took it.
When GOG, by every measure a more consumer friendly alternative to Steam, got going, no one switched, and no one cared. People were perfectly happy to take the less consumer friendly option of staying on Steam, because Valve had more games they wanted, and instead of forcing devs to release games on GOG by mass migration to it, they just happily accepted the less consumer friendly option. If GTA6 and the RDR series is announced as Epic Store exclusive tommorow the same thing will happen, because the consumer literally does not matter.

Yeah, because selling a game on one store is better than selling a game on two stores. I realize you can't really keep defending Epic and saying the shit you are saying unless you assume that people want games to be exclusive to Steam, but come on, it's just getting ridiculous at this point.

>Trusting this downie looking lying faggot
See He makes Todd Howard and Peter Molyneux look like fucking masters of deception.

If a game dev is selling his game at $40 on Epic Games and $60 on Steam, which one will you go for?

Do you know the figure that these exclusives got paid to marginalize themselves on epic? developers would have worked the math to get to the decision to for go their steam user base.

Sorry Epic shill, Steam lets me buy keys from alternative websites with huge savings. So not only do I benefit from choice, I don't have to sell my soul to the Slants.

It would more be like 50/55 vs 60 i think.

Do you? Because you're just assuming things out your ass, and you can't counter the argument that a game would sell better if available on both stores and not being held back by some asinine exclusivity deal.

Why is his face too small for his head?

EPIC store is not influencing PC gaming at all. Very wishful of you to think otherwise, dumb shills.

shiiiit I didn't know about this, nooooo I just wanted to play around with the ue4 but now I have chinese computar aids nooo

Well let's say that Epic is funding him, allowing them to sell it $20 less than steam.

Even visually he screams slimy cunt.

I am assuming out my ass because its clear that having the game available on every platform would be the best way to sell it. So you have to wonder what epic is doing to entice these devs into this deal.

ff is the most normalfag "intro to memes" course one could take. yes, it's reddit.

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No, he's changing it. Changes are often painful and require dragging people who will kick and scream along, but the end result is usually different rather then better or worse.

Fix your store GUI. Your unreal market place has a way better layout and its in the same launcher???

Change != Always good

He's removing consumer choice from the equation.

Are you able to develop and elaborate those thoughts do you just assume change is good because laughing at people who complain about things online gives you a dopamine rush?

came here to make this post

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Holy shit i dont know how we got here its literally make a account /sign in/ get exclusive ON THE SAME MACHINE. Have any of you fucks seen the console war forums filled with people arguing about exclusives because they didnt want to buy every console. Those dumb arguments more more sense than any of this ever will.

What consumer choice is there when most developers only offer their game on steam?
To create a real competitor you need a user base. Nobody will move over for free games, no DRM or better prices. We've seen it all before, steam retains it's hold against any other store because it was first.
The only way to get people to use your platform is exclusivity. And that's how change will come about and how we may one day see games released on both Steam and Epic simultaneously day one.
There is no other way to do it and thus the ends justify the means.

Making games exclusive to a storefront with missing features and no key distribution to third party sites isn't progression, it's regression. Steam store is over a decade old at this point and Epic's store is missing features that even Origin and Uplay have. There is literally no excuse.

Valve has no reason to improve steam now, what will actually happen is they will also moneyhat exclusives because that's the model that Epic is proving works. Not providing a better service like Stream or more freedom for consumers like GOG, but having the most exclusives for upcoming new games even if it means paying for games to delay availability on other stores people already pre-ordered on.

he fixed it
>b-but muh botnet

>has a smartphone
>uses captcha
>doesn't use VPN
>has windows 10 on his computer
>probably has social media
LMAOing at your life retards

>What consumer choice is there when most developers only offer their game on steam?
The countless key sites that let me choose how much I want to pay.

Epic doesn't offer keys as an option, therefore why would I want to fucking play in their court?

>What consumer choice is there when most developers only offer their game on steam?
isthereanydeal.com/game/residenteviliibiohazardreii/info/
They are exclusive to the client, but not to the store. Which is the issue.

Epic is not only selling their games like EA's Origin, they are paying devs for exclusivity.
Steam doesn't do that, you can even generate Steam keys and sell them yourself skipping Steam's cut.

Even console exclusives are still sold by many retailers. EGS exclusives are only sold by the EGS.

The pre orders should have been honored either with a replacement key or a full refund. Anything other then that is not on.

epic is based chinks are our friends

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>There is no other way to do it
How about having better features and competitive pricing? You know competing on actual merit as opposed to monopoly of sale
Ends justify the means = fuck the consumer they don't matter

Why didnt everyone spit the dummy when origin did this bull shit.

they did, same accusations of it being a botnet and all
they forgot and became used to it after a while, same thing is going to happen with epic

Pre orders can be cancelled for your money back. Epic covers lost sales, which translates to "here, go pirate our games, its on us"

In other words, there's literally no reason to buy games on Epic

Epic is partnering with humble bundle to sell keys. They'll do like steam does.

>spit the dummy
what?

Must have missed the tears seeing as i was busy playing EXCLUSIVE GAMES

If you use the internet at all you don't deserve privacy.

Except humble isn't the only place you can buy steam keys outside of their store

We will attack back.
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kek

Hi, sonytard.

Babys spit out their dummy when they have a tantrum

Rome wasn't built in a day.

>the developers
Deep Silver isn't a developer

To play China's advocate, Epic is a new storefront. They plan to add achievements, cloud saves, and other features in the future. Origin started out very shitty but it got a lot better over time imo. Cant say I'm a fan of them buying exclusives and leeching steam data though.

haha yes you fucking zoomer lmao

They literally did. Origin was fucking investigated by the EU for breaching consumer privacy.

Its missing features Origin and Uplay had at launch. And Steam has had for years

So that really isnt an excuse

Hi, nintentard.

They did, newfag.
Origin is still garbo btw.

and people say historical revisionism is a meme

See

he's a true hero trying to liberate us from a monopoly and valve dictating all the terms on pc gaming.
he may be hated now and will die as a martyr, for people to sing his praises in years to come

Well its good to see that we pc gamers are consistent

I'm a pc gamer, fucktard. Stop giving your opinion on PC gaming, you piece of shit.

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Did it have them at launch? I've never used those clients, but I'll have to ask a source on them having cd-key reselling from the start.

>I'm a pc gamer
No you aren't one, go back to your bing bing, faggot.

Games are already sold in more places than just Steam. Steam doesn't have a Monopoly of sale on anything other than their first party products. Epic, on the other hand, is forcing publishers to only sell their product through the Epic store. Creating an actual Monopoly of sale.

>No you aren't one, go back to your bing bing, faggot.
>anyone that hates sony MUST be nintendo
the eternal delusion of the sonygoy persists

>forcing
the only forcing that's happening is people having to publish their games on steam or nobody would buy them

>seething ninten cuck

No, the only forcing that is happening is people having to buy their games on EGS because they CAN'T buy them anywhere else

Blessed, based and redpilled post.

That isn't "forcing" shit, that's basic supply and demand. Steam has the largest userbase, therefore it's prudent as a company to release your game on Steam to make money. You can freely release your game anywhere else, but you will lose sales. Literally no different from trying to sell steel out in the countryside instead of in a major city.

oh, poor baby

Get fucked, dumb Sony fanboy. Your opinion on PC gaming has no value. Stay in your containment threads.

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Not an argument

Dilate and then have sex.

this is the best comment in the universe
only on 4channel can you be called a tranny or supporting a free market

Unreal engine is dogshit.

A monopoly is not a free market

>B-but Steam is big and has lots of users!
That doesn't make it a monopoly. This is like saying Walmart is a monopoly when it's not. It simply beats smaller stores because it has better deals and a larger selection of stock. It was a small company just like every other business at one point, and it grew into one of the largest retail chains in the world through cheap prices and a wide assortment of choice.

On the other hand, do you know why Time Warner is a monopoly? Because if you dare to compete with them, it will do one of two things.

>Buy you out
>Sue you into the ground

First one kind of sounds like the Epic Game Store, eh?

Why doesnt epic pay shills for r/masterrace valve did it on 2009 and all the mouthbreathing retards bow down immediately to the fat fuck if they meme enough on Reddit Pcūcks will jump to epic in a blink

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Whining about how Valve has a monopoly because people choose to buy there is the opposite of defending a free market. shitposting with "oh poor baby" when you are proven wrong doesn't change that

>brings davidcagekino to your platform

pshh... nuthin personnel kid...

ching chong ching chang chung chao
ho ho

Exclusivity is part of the free market.

it really doesn't
if anything it's the other way around and epic is the small guy trying to get his foot in the market
>you are proven wrong
i have yet to see anything of that sort.

>litterally obsessed by Nintendo despite the discussion having nothing to do with it

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Fuck steamfags tbqh white bitches

>the absolute state of Pc """""""gaming""""""""
LMAO drink bleach

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nice argument faggot

On 4channel the term "free market" means "companies can do whatever they want with no repercussions consumers have no rights other than to be milked like good little sheep". You're arguing with corporatist bootlickers posturing as lolberg capitalists

>monopoly of sale
>free market
Choose one. Also you can't explain how Steam is somehow less of a free market than Epic's store

imagine defending a fucking corporation that didn't do anything good for 'gamers' for at least 5 years like your life depends on it

at least epic still makes games and not just prints money on your dumb asses

>buying games on Steam is a choice
try again vaIvedrone

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No, if anything he helped motivate Gabe to get off his fat ass and put some effort in again.

Based and Pooh Bear pilled, imo.

>I have yet to see anything of that sort
Try actually reading instead of just deflecting with weak quips and reversals
>Epic is the small guy trying to get his foot in the market
lol

Stop focusing on the size of the business. If you keep conflating big with monopoly and small with "can do no wrong" then you will be fucked by corporations who do not care about you. Epic is right now very well engaging in anti-consumer monopolistic practises, and people are letting them get away with it because "STEAM BIG, STEAM BAD."

>epic is the small guy trying to get his foot in the market
Oh wow just don't mind the fact that they're funded by fucking Tencent

I wouldn't expect a hivemind Chinsect to understand why "choice" is what determines why the action is bad or not. You know, considering Slants have no free will.

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>imagine defending a fucking corporation that didn't do anything good for 'gamers' for at least 5 years like your life depends on it

This applies just as much to Epic drones as it does to valve drones. how are timed exclusivity deals good for gamers? Because that's what will happen on Steam, you're not encouraging them to make games instead of just buying out exclusives

>help the industry progress
yeah I can see how using same old shitty engine and same old shitty assets by some talentless hacks is progress

>Game is on Steam
>Developer CHOSE to make it Steam exclusive
>Game is available through countless Steam key sites where you can get the game for cheap and Valve earns no money from key sales

>Game is exclusive to Epic store
>Developers were paid millions by Epic, influencing them into the decision
>No Epic keys where you can save money

>Also you can't explain how Steam is somehow less of a free market than Epic's store
it isn't
the fucking market is free
games are the product
on free market everyone has ability do make deals with devs/publishers to make exclusive deals on select products.
what does the budget have to do with anything?
it's about the customers that epic has few
look, you fucking goddamn retard.
putting a few fucking games or a 1 year exclusivity deal is not a fucking monopoly.
i can't with you dumb cunts anymore.... open a book for a second, please. if one brand of bottled water is only available at walmart, does it make walmart a monopoly?

Hey retard

>papa franku

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No, consolebabies with their style over substance shitgames did.

Do you understand how companies work?
You can't be "funded" by a stake owner.
Tencent injected money when it bought the shares, but the money is internal from there on and Tencent can't put more money in unilaterally.

that's not even reddit spacing retard

>>Also you can't explain how Steam is somehow less of a free market than Epic's store
>it isn't
According to this guy it is

False flagging : The thread

>Developers were paid millions by Epic, influencing them into the decision
Wow, like, a choice? The fact that steam is a monopoly did not influence the decision of the first? And buying game for cheap or discount is farce. Either pay the full price or pirate it.

you're delusional. plain and simple.
like 60% of games on steam right now are steam exclusives. and don't spread some shit about ability to but them on key sites. it's still steam and they can do whatever they want with you.

i don't give a flying fuck about epic. they are doing what they're doing right now to put their foot in the market. they won't be making new exclusives in 3 years if they create customerbase right now.

Not fault of Valve. And I fucking hate Steam.

PC gaming was always trash

>Monopoly of sale is not a fucking Monopoly
Hey shit for brains, if you can only buy water from Walmart then they have a fucking Monopoly. Nobody cares if they have a monopoly on their own brand of water because it's literally their own brand

No that was Blizzard.
There's nothing wrong with unreal.

thanks for proving my point

even miller think that ff is shit

>Epic
>small guy
>their engine is used by a huge chunk of video games
>owner of one of the biggest multiplayer video games ever

reeeeeeeeeeee, epic is the devil for allowing me to buy a game on their store that i would never ever buy on there or on any other store that is not steam.

PC games were always really boring, ugly Western turds, there's a reason the platform went defunct and devs could no longer support it.

In the store business, they're small.

Nah, you're just fucking retarded.
>like 60% of games on steam right now are steam exclusives. and don't spread some shit about ability to but them on key sites
Why shouldn't I spread ”shit” aks an objective fact that completely demolishes your retarded argument? The fact is that almost no games are exclusive to streams store other than the ones they published themselves.

For someone who says they don't give a flying fuck about epic you sure love to go out of your way to defend them, including in your same post. If exclusivity deals are what get you customers then it stands to reason they're going to keep making those deals to increase their customer base, which is the goal of every store looking to make a profit. So your entire argument is baseless conjecture, you are just encouraging Valve to make exclusivity deals since ”the ends justify the means”.

Thanks for conceding you never had one.

You're conflating being new with being small. If you are making billions of dollars and have enough to cover the lost sales of the companies you are buying exclusivity from, you are not small. It's like saying Google is the small guy in social media because Facebook and Twitter exist

Now I see why 4channel loves Epic so much

>Why shouldn't I spread ”shit” aks an objective fact that completely demolishes your retarded argument? The fact is that almost no games are exclusive to streams store other than the ones they published themselves.
because it's still a steam product and those small stores are selling them for chump change of a percent?
>For someone who says they don't give a flying fuck about epic you sure love to go out of your way to defend them,
because they are not doing anything wrong and are vilified for no reason
your sentence is just retarded.
valve is the big boss right now and i want more players in the game.
all of you sheep are just focusing on the NOW with exclusives not seeing the big picture how getting more big guys on the market will improve things. and no, i don't mean some small little websites just reselling steam keys

>The fact that steam is a monopoly
Your malformed opinions are not facts
>buying game for cheap or discount is farce.
Your education is a farce

'k

Will he run PC gaming?

>And buying game for cheap or discount is farce.
You're a fucking moron

PC games at retail were dying before Steam came along, which is a major reason why Steam managed to get so much traction so quickly.

shills are running so rampant they can't be bothered to hide it anymore
>but muh competition and muh monopoly
epic so far has done literally NOTHING to improve the pc platform, other than shitting on consumers in every chance they get

They've already managed to reduce Steam's cut from 30% to 20%.

>because it's still a steam product
Calling it that does not change the objective fact that it's not exclusive to steams store.
>and those small stores are selling them for chump change of a percent
Completely irrelevant. Your hate boner for discounts and sales won't make those games suddenly exclusive.
>because they are not doing anything wrong and are vilified for no reason
For someone who says they don't give a flying fuck about epic you sure love to go out of your way to defend them
Your entire post is just retarded
>valve is the big boss right now and i want more players in the game.
So just admit you're defending exclusivity out of spite for valve and stop pretending you don't care about the mega corporation you're vehemently defending
>all of you sheep are just focusing on the NOW with exclusives
Because that's the only thing Epic is offering. They're not competing on merit or better features. The only reason to use EGS is for games you can't buy anywhere else.

You're defending a megacorporstion and their shitty practices so you're no less of a sheep than anyone else here.

>not seeing the big picture how getting more big guys on the market will improve things
"The big picture' is your baseless conjecture that Epic will improve things even though they are offering nothing over the competition for consumers, just exclusivity and that they will suddenly stop doing exclusives while simultaneously proving that exclusives is how you get customers. You're delusional.

>and no, I don't mean some small little websites just reselling steam keys
Because that would destroy your entire argument

>because they are not doing anything wrong and are vilified for no reason
>all of you sheep are just focusing on the NOW with exclusives

Either you think exclusives are a good thing or you're contradicting yourself. Either way look forward to only being able to buy new PC games through the Steam store or Epic store because that's the future you're asking for.

so is epic still anticonsumer monopoly or not?

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Only if you hit high enough revenue. Which is also how it works with Epic's store so smaller devs are fucked

>i don't give a flying fuck about epic
>but they are not doing anything wrong and are vilified for no reason you sheep

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See

We already went over this bugman. You can buy Steam keys from more than just steam and humble even though steam is a monopoly according to you bugman

>Calling it that does not change the objective fact that it's not exclusive to steams store.
>Because that would destroy your entire argument
they are LITERALLY selling steam keys. how is that not selling a steam product?

>you think exclusives are a good thing
they are neither good nor bad. especially since they are timed exclusives only for now to promote a new store.
the present of pc games is only having them on steam and you're afraid of this being the future?

how does one thing prevent the other? you can shit on one store as long as you shit on others equally

Epic didn't do that anymore than Discord did. In fact Discord has done a lot more to improve things than Epic has with their store.

Oh, I totally forgot you could do that immediately when steam got on the market too

I don't know when they added that but yeah steam keys have been a thing for a very long time.

>they are LITERALLY selling steam keys. how is that not selling a steam product?
Calling it that does not change the objective fact that it's not exclusive to steams store. Again see
>they are neither good nor bad. especially since they are timed exclusives only for now to promote a new store.
Argument to moderation is a fallacy and there is no indication that timed exclusivity will be dropped anytime soon.

>the present of pc games is only having them on steam and you're afraid of this being the future how does one thing prevent the other? you can shit on one store as long as you shit on others equally

You can deny the difference between games needing steams client and actually exclusivity to the store all you want but you already lost this argument. I'm not going to keep repeating myself just because you're in severe denial

>you can shit on one store as long as you shit on others equally
>but they are not doing anything wrong and are vilified for no reason you sheep

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Steam is over a decade old now. Imagine defending the lack of decade old features because "hurr it's new". Also Steam was not paying off third party publishers to sell their games exclusively through steam and nowhere else on PC

>the present of pc games is only having them on steam

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>I am silly
Epic doesn't allow you to buy games on any other store. Steam let's me buy games on hundreds of sites, not just Epic and Humble

That's true, but if they eventually add the stuff they said they would, it might end up being a decent storefront. I wouldn't be surprised if they launched the Epic Store very early to ride on the Fortnite money train.

Reminder that the 2nd most sold game of all time launched exclusively on it's own website and advertised via word of mouth, the "steam monopoly" is bullshit.

it's deliberately omitting consumer friendly features such as reviews and discussion forums while devs use Steam's infrastructure for that instead, and it also dropped Linux support despite having it earlier and absolutely having the resources to keep it around

in recent game trailers, they literally advertise new games where steam is the platform like a console instead of 'pc' and you 'people' will defend that as not a problem....

it's almost like that happened before steam ate the whole market

yeah, they should add reviews and forums right now, so 'true gamers' could raid them right now to shit on developers that decided to publish on epic store like they're doing on steam reviews. that would not be a problem at all

Big publishers would leave (were leaving) steam without epic anyway. If anything epic store can preserve storefront centralization longer.

> Except those are first-party games
If they bought they studios and made these games 1st party exclusives (like Valve does), would you calm down?

>branding in a game trailer matters more than consumer choice how games are actually sold
>customer reviews and forums are bad

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>If they actually own the studios who's games they made exclusives
Yeah actually I would.