What version of windows are you guys using for gaming

also where did you get them?

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W10 Home, and yes, i bought it.

windows 10 ltsc
pirated it

windows 7 because every other alternative is worse or isnt even viable yet
also pure (((Coincidence)))

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Win7 but fucking Microsoft pulled the license from me years after I bought it when they started cracking down on mass-distributed office keys

>not using daz loader

is ltsc better than ltsb or are they essentially the same?

>isn’t even viable yet
People like you are delusional. I’ve had every version of Windows at some point in my life and every single one of the was perfectly fine for gaming. Every version was better than the last save for 8, which was roughly the same.

I'm currently on Windows 8.1. Should I go back to Windows 7 or just jump straight into Mint? I was planning on going to Linux eventually but I'm not sure how viable it is at the moment in terms of games. How good is Mint in that regard?

7 because my pci wifi card isnt working in 10

I wouldnt know really. I upgraded win7 to ltsc when I changed my motherboard. I assume theyre more or less the same.

10, some digital store.

Arch Linux with Wine 4.3

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I thought LTSC was just the new name for LTSB.

I meant to look into that, is it just literally spoofing the license and that's it?

Winblows 10 Pro and I got it for free from a friend who had a spare Windows 8 key when I first built my PC.

Windows 10; got forced to upgrade because my computer was basically becoming nearly inoperable at that point for god-knows-why, and this was back in like November 2015, so Windows 10 operated and ran even more like shit at the time from being so buggy and experimental.

Just use regular Ubuntu. Mint is just Ubuntu anyway.

You can check whether or not a game runs here protondb.com/

Or on the github issue tracker for Proton github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues

Or sometimes on WineHQ, or Google search results that lead to reddit threads, etc.

Why didn't you just reinstall your old OS instead? Windows is notorious for accumulating bloat.

W10pro, bought box w8, then upgraded to 8.1, then to 10. I'm actually using hyperv, so it was worth it.

Because I was using 8.1 at the time.

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you guys must treat your computers like shit because i never have problems like this

My first ever update with Windows 10 failed, so fuck you.

Also
>works on my machine :^)

>Windows 10

>it works on my machine
Every time

howtogeek.com/243581/windows-10-may-delete-your-programs-without-asking/

windowsreport.com/windows-10-keeps-installing-candy-crush-saga/

digitaltrends.com/computing/windows10-check-for-updates/

I had that happen to one of my machines while the other has never had any problems. It was a bitch to fix too.

You're refuting what you think is a flawed argument with the same flawed argument.

8.1, leftover uni license.

me neither

W7 Ultimate x64.
Bought a legit disc of Amazon in 2011, finally upgrading from WinXP.

>Just use regular Ubuntu. Mint is just Ubuntu anyway.
Ubuntu's been declining for ages, and Mint's star is dimming as we speak as well.

Manjaro is the new hotness

What's your hardware like? You may want to change some components out before you switch to Linux for ease of use.

If you want to game on Linux and you're new to the platform you're best off just using Ubuntu. I use it now despite having used Linux for decades because it just gets out of my way.
Mint has made some very poor decisions in the past that don't inspire confidence.

redpill me on win 10
using win 8.1 right now but want to downgrade to win 10 because of drivers and compatibility and shit
which version do i download and where do i get it?

Based 8.1 Chad

Win7, no idea what I'm going to use after the support dies.

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If you really want 10 get a Pro key from third party websites and completely turn off updates and look up some othet QOL settings.

just keep using 7?
i mean support only means placebo security updates that dont really matter
just double your amount of back ups in case something goes horribly wrong once support ends

8.1 with 7 shell 0w0

w7 since I can't be bothered with some of the shit not working natively on linux
if I need to dualboot I might as well just go full windows

>windowsreport.com/windows-10-keeps-installing-candy-crush-saga/
I mean there's worse things it could install
I like bejeweled games

Windows 10 pro
rutracker, i needed it since LTSB was outdated and i was required a new windows version so i could play Forza horizon 4
It's the same thing but on a newer version of windows (dark mode and transparency shit) LTSB only getting security updates noe

Gross

10 pro

>installs furry dating sim on everyone's PC
T-thanks Microsoft..

>want to downgrade to win 10 because of drivers and compatibility
What GPU do you have? Its entirely possible Windows 10 is not the best choice if those are your current problems.

Why is it gross? 8.1 is fine, I never use the metro home screen 0w0

Mint is shit use kubuntu or memejaro KDE if you want a justworks linux but kubuntu is fragile af and always break but they have official support from nvidia or someshit for their distro

>don't have to download TiTS myself
Thanks, Microsoft.

>My parents installed windows 10 on my pc without my asking me first
I was SO mad

i was talking more about my cpu and wifi stick... i dont have isuess with my gpu but its the msi 1060 3 x

>you may want to change some components out before you switch to Linux for ease of use.
What the fuck are you babbling about there, kiddo??

>Mint has made some very poor decisions in the past that don't inspire confidence.
Still better than base Ubuntu, which is just a relic,
If you wanna be on cutting edge, well supported system, get Manjaro. It's VERY Windows-refugee friendly, and gaming on Leenux does not rely on distro itself exactly. Even more so now that Steam Play is a stock feature of the service itself.

>redpill me on win 10
Spies you 24/7.
Forces updates on you.
Said updates reset ALL your settings and changes, and may brick your system.
Has TWO different GUI systems stacked on top, with inconsistent UI designs, and either one of these systems may break on their own.
Said Metro UI looks like shit made by 10yo in MS Paint.
Shit support for older programs and games.

Avoid it at all costs.

>Caring about """support""""
Get real.
I'm gonna keep using W7 as long as physically possible. Which may be another decade at this rate; it's a fully matured 64-bit OS, supported by all PC hardware out there, and it just werks. Now they're even "porting" DX12 on it, and Vulkan is open platform = gaming's not gonna be an issue.

When W7 finally becomes LITERALLY obsolete, I've been already using Linux distro of my choice for quite some time.

>Spies you 24/7.
isnt this over since long?
also what to get else
i heard mac os was good lol

>What is windows vista
>What is windows 10 launch with forced v-sync and input lag resulting from bloatware software that couldn't be removed without third party software
OK underage retard

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8.1 Pro, the newest that doesn't yet have telemetry (I blocked the pacth that adds it obv). Won't "upgrade" until MS stops being a bunch of fucking cocks.

W10 Home when I was building my comp I bought an install key

comfy pirated windows 10 ltsc

Win7 ult x64
KMSTools.exe

Windows 10
Got it from university giveaway but somehow the activation code was not accepted so there's an Activate Windows watermark on lower right

>isnt this over since long?
No. It's the polar oppostie.
Keep up.

>what else to get
Stick to W7. Ignore the repeated fear-mongering campaigns. Keep your A/V software and web browsers up to date, uBlock Origin and NoScript active, and practice some common sense online, and you will be fine.

When Seven is literally no good anymore, switch to Linux. You can already do over 90% of all PC related tasks w/ it.

>mac os
Do you enjoy masochistic plays as well?

Win10 pro. Got from upgrading from a pirate win7

My house has two desktops and two laptops.
All of them run 64-bit Windows 7. Came with the systems in most cases, one I upgraded to 7 from piece of shit W10.

>Still better than base Ubuntu, which is just a relic,
LOL, no. Every time I run into somebody having problems running a game they're on a version of Mint with 5+ year old drivers. Ubuntu does a much better job of keeping users up to date on the open driver.

Which is what people should be using if they're running Linux, which is why if someone has an Nvidia card and they want to run Linux they should probably switch to AMD.

Christ why does W10 fucking baby you like you're a fucking retard? Let me have control of my shit, if I fuck it up it's my fault. It's like an overprotective parent. Isn't there a version of W10 that doesn't update pointless shit constantly that's made for medical/military applications or some shit? I remember they had to make one after a W10 update almost killed people when it started randomly installing on vital equipment.

You keep spewing lots of BS with no citations whatsoever, and also 10 years old memes.

I haven't had these issues

Anyone saying 8.1 are cucks. My old laptop had 8.1 and it was fucking terrible I hated the way the start menu worked was so happy when windows 10 came.

Win10 Pro.
For my laptop, I used an official upgrade from the store, but for my desktop, I bought from a key reseller.

>Christ why does W10 fucking baby you like you're a fucking retard?
Because not only is it MADE for retards, it also uses said retards as its "merchandise" ... for the 3rd parties.
W10 is no longer a software you use, but a SERVICE you subscribe to. And thus, it will do what ever the hell the service's owners desire.

If you wanna be safe, secure and in control, do not use Wontworks 10.

I use the only good Windows.

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>he didn't get w10 for free by joining windows insider for like a day

as a normie i found windows 10 amazing good.

yeah have problems, YEAH the windows update is annoying, I KNOW.

but i am normie, i not some autist that need to have control over every little tiny DLL in the system, i just want to play games and see cute cat videos on youtube.

Linux Mint with proton 3.16

Professional developers tend to find Windows 10 even more amazing, user.

Windows 10 pro
It's 5€ in most stores listed in allkeyshop
I bought a license for each of my machines

8.1 is some dank shit

>W10 is no longer a software you use, but a SERVICE you subscribe to
You have to pay monthly for Windows now?

>home

Service doesn't automatically mean you have to pay for it, he is saying W10 will continually be upgraded rather than get deprecated by some kind of "Windows 11" if you will

Buy the cheapest that wasn't HOME BASIC, add the other functionality yourself fella. Legal license, support, and all functions are to my own liking.

>using Windows

Original Win7 Ultimate .iso activated with some script. It's not like you can buy it genuinely.

W10 Pro. Got it for free from upgrading my cheap OEM W7 Ultimate key which I got for 15 bux several years ago.

Mint is just Ubuntu with a Windows coat of paint which it doesn't need. Why opt to use an unsupported OS which is unprofessionally managed, breaks the debian ecosystem, and has a poor record on security?

Plus seriously, no one should be advising people to run Nvidia hardware on their Linux system. Its a bad user experience and they don't even have a definitive performance advantage anymore.

>downgrade
Don't you mean upgrade?

>have installed windows enough to understand what needs to be done
>doing fresh windows 10 install
>don't connect to internet
>delete everything you don't want with a program like ccleaner
>connect to internet and do everything else you need to do
problem solved. how fucking hard was that? The issue people have with candy crush keeps re-installing is because they try to remove it before it finishes updating/installing so windows thinks its an error and keeps trying too. By not connecting to the internet it doesn't give windows a chance to download any and try to install products like this. Use common sense.

Not that guy

I've used AMD and Nvidia GPU's on my linux systems, it was the same experience, using a different GPU doesn't change how the user interacts with every single piece of software

Isn't that a good thing? People won't be subjected to "upgrade because this program is dropping windows [x] support" bullshit anymore

Windows 10 LTSC

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For some people it is for some people they prefer something that isn't broken to stay the same, because compatibility with something may or may not changing depending on the software being made early in the OSes life or later. I just wanted to point out what he meant by service

>it was the same experience
Then you must have been asleep, or haven't used a modern AMD GPU.
Today AMD's drivers are built in to the kernel, and integrated with the system through the Mesa project. Its all open source, and updates when the system updates.
Plus its integrating with next-gen technology without a fight unlike Nvidia who insist on staying closed and doing things in ways that require special attention from developers to support their closed solutions.
Which yes literally does change how the user interacts with every single piece of software because it affects the whole GUI which can be noticeably slower and more buggy on Nvidia.

W10 Pro or whatever the fuck the premium on is. Bought a chink key for $10

what's the difference between that and pro/home versions?

This is eactly what I did. Not as good as Windows 7 but regardless not as shit when you turn off updates and modify a bunch of settings.

No Alexa and Candy Crush bullshit. No unsolicited "restart now or in 10 minutes" updates. No metro bullshit and "apps" (old calculator, etc.). The list could go on.

Yeah... About that.

Windows 10 runs legacy software through a compatibility layer not unlike Wine. It can disable it, remove it, or even completely omit it from a new install.
Microsoft is deprecating their legacy software support in a future update of 10 and shifting towards an all UWP future.

Their scaling up on support prices for old versions of Windows past their EOL date is designed to encourage developers to get on the new version, or get out of the Microsoft ecosystem. They make zero dollars maintaining BC and it costs them hundreds of millions if not billions in developer time and lost revenue.

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It's an outdated Pro version for the most part.
I believe it lacks some niche functionality, but it makes up for it with better customization options.

However, everyone who you'll see using it here is genuinely retarded and uses it for the "no forced updates" meme.

>completely turn off updates
Aren't you fucking yourself by denying the security updates?

W7, pirated. After it's depreciated I plan on leaving gaming and/or playing retro games.
In current year there's literally nothing of value to play even pirated, let alone pay for it.

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>Today AMD's drivers are built in to the kernel, and integrated with the system through the Mesa project. Its all open source, and updates when the system updates.
This is not user experience

>Plus its integrating with next-gen technology without a fight
I stand corrected

>sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
>sudo apt-get update
>sudo apt install nvidia-driver-418
Is indeed different, but I wouldn't consider that "fighting" with the software

>unlike Nvidia who insist on staying closed and doing things in ways that require special attention from developers to support their closed solutions.
Is not user experience

>Which yes literally does change how the user interacts with every single piece of software because it affects the whole GUI which can be noticeably slower and more buggy on Nvidia.
This is what I meant by same, GUI experience has been identical on my Nvidia and AMD gpus, once the drivers are updated everything is snappy and works as expected, it isn't "noticeably slower"

user, we both know you are lying.
We also both know you have no idea what you're talking about.

Basically Nvidia drivers break every time there is a kernel or Xorg update.

You HAVE to remain on old versions of the Linux kernel and Xorg, and wait for Nvidia to update their driver to be compatible with newer kernel/xorg versions.

Nvidia also still relies on you manually running a command to generate xorg.conf, when all open source drivers do everything automatically.

Also just buggy. I've seen some crazy bugs related to Nvidia drivers before, one time they had a bug that stopped completely unrelated processes from running or stopping.

The best drivers on Linux right now are AMD open source (kernel + mesa).

No Edge, thank you based god.

Sure linux drone.

based

You absolutely do.

>This is not user experience

Yes it is, you are forced to remain on old versions of kernel and Xorg, which on most distros requires you to manually do so, or the distros won't even give you updated versions of kernel or Xorg until Nvidia updates.

Also see:

Win 10
I cracked it last year but it became uncracked somehow a few months ago and I haven't bothered to crack it again since I'm a lazy cunt and everything works fine. The activate windows watermark is slightly annoying though.

Windows Server 2016 ($25) from an eBay key reseller.

You're ignoring Wayland. Nvidia has fought tooth and nail to keep Linux behind graphically so they don't have to support a new graphics layer by refusing to adopt the same standard interfaces everyone else agreed on.
They're the main reason Wayland is still a novelty rather than the default.

fresh install, activated using KMS_VS_ALL

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Windows 7 Home Premium (Service Pack 1) 64-bit. I use an OEM install disc that I got back in 2011

10. Honestly... because it's the only one that supports my xbone controller through bluetooth. Because the 2 DX12 titles that I play these days, Rise of the Tomb Raider and Deus Ex: MD, both glitch on DX12. And I don't play Forza or care about Halo. But I don't want to use this thing wired.

Do you guys know if KMS_VL_ALL is safe to use to activate my LTSC copy?

>They're the main reason Wayland is still a novelty rather than the default.

Wayland has forced Vsync that you can't turn off

This makes Wayland useless for gaming

I think that answers my question, thanks

Explain how Windows 10 S could exist?
If that wasn't the direction they wanted to go, why did they add S Mode to every version of 10?
If win32 APIs weren't deprecated and shifted off to a legacy compatibility layer, how can S Mode even function?
If win32 was Microsoft's path forward, why even make UWP? Why make all their new games UWP?

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Also call me an absolute cock sucking faggot but I would love it if Apple pulled the gigantic dildo out of their asses and decided to give better support to opengl instead of outright wanting to replace it with a different API which makes it so that there's like 2 fucking new games available. Even linux is getting better at games than macOS. And I like macOS a lot, I'm that kind of fag.

Here goes nothing

>Build a PC
>Start installing Windows 10
>Fails to install 3 times
>Finally wipe out everything and install fresh
>Win 10 is finally working
>Updates
>Bricks the system
>Dowload another version of win10
>Works but it's Enterprise edition
>I can't install my GPU drivers because it got discontinued
>Need to install an important update to be able to use said drivers
>Install it
>Bricks the system
>Download Win 8.1
>Installs easily
>Looks wonky at first but then updates and becomes incredibly well functional and stable
>All good
>Suddenly microsoft puts warning in new Win8 update telling my processor and ram is incompatible, to upgrade to Win10
>Call bullshit
>Check for this online
>Find out MS is blatantly lying and wants to force you to upgrade to Win10 if you have a new gen processor
>Install a patch
>Warning still appears but I can just close it

Seriously why make it so hard?!

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Windows 7 ultimate. The usual sources for new copies of windows 7. Haven't updated once since 2016, still works a treat, runs brand new games without issue, no 10 nag or anything.

How long till they implement variable refresh rate? Its in the Linux kernel as of 5.0, at least for cards from vendors that work with the community.

Windows 7 ultimate, tried Win10 for 2 days and then switched back because holy shit that thing is horrible.
I got my 7 copy from my dad, he could get free codes from work.

The one with dx12 support

Unfortunately as we saw with their announcement they're moving even further into a walled garden ecosystem for gaming.
MacOS isn't going to save us from what Microsoft has planned for the future.
GNU/Linux is the only real option.

>placebo security updates that dont really matter
No user, the supper hackorz will getchu. Heres a copy of windows 10, just make sure to keep it on the dl, and don't forget to click my ads on your start menu on the way to windows store

>Install Linux
>Everything just works

Linux is much better at playing games than Mac OSX now.

Valve won't even support Proton on Mac because Apple refuses to support Vulkan, and even now they're dropping support for OpenGL

Either use Metal or the highway for them, and developers will hit the highway before using Metal. Good job Apple.

>Linuxtard
NO GAME.

Freesync just got supported on AMD cards and you can use it right now.

Not sure how well it works.

Personally I never want this feature anyway, I have a 144Hz monitor and don't see any tearing, or if I do it's barely noticeable.

The lower input lag is worth it than using Vsync or Freesync.

Windows 8.1. It works well and I'm too afraid of all the horrible stuff I've heard about 10 to upgrade further. I have it configured as dual boot with Windows 7 for compatibility uses but hardly ever need 7 anymore. Windows 7 runs so slowly in comparison I'd rather not use it as my main. And where did I get them, I don't remember but not legally that's for sure.

> you are forced to remain on old versions of kernel
>You HAVE to remain on old versions of the Linux kernel
I am not sure, I could have sworn I've seen the linux kernel in the update manager before and it didn't break anything, I do see version 4.5.16-0-20 of vmlinuz which came with my current installation, and 0-45, and 0-46 in the /boot directory, nothing has broke

again this is not user experience, I am not an nvidia fanboy, i'm not defending nvidia's actions from behind the scenes, on how they "fought" change. I am strictly talking about how my user experience has been with their hardware.

Suffice to say i'm using x11 not wayland

>Linux shill fag

I'm not gonna go out of my way to install a system that doesn't support 90% of my work software, get lost

4,5 is a very old kernel.

Try upgrading to kernel 5*, Nvidia drivers will break because you have to wait for Nvidia.

What work software?

I'm on based 8.1. Anyone bitching about it because of the start menu is a brainlet and is sleeping on Windows 7 but better.

>>Fails to install 3 times
There is just no way. You can't tell me using microsoft's media creator and creating a USB boot drive to install windows 10 fresh on a new pc will result in it giving you problems 4 different times. I've had computers with bad hdds take over an hour to install windows 10 and still never had a problem.

>no more dedicated QA
>QA is made by coders themselves
>it compiles, it ships
>further testing is done by Insiders who test all the wrong things
>feedback is ignored. only bigwigs at MS get to decide what's fixed.
>Nutella has publicly assured enterprises patches are tested by consumers first

>again this is not user experience,
Ok then how about:
Buy new AMD card, install it in system, boot up -> full resolution, drivers update automatically with the system about every six months on most LTS distros or right away on rolling release distros, with options to get drivers even faster if you want.
Buy new Nvidia card, install it in system, boot up -> firmware not released yet, system may not even be able to display vesa mode, or may not detect resolution/refresh rate properly, possibly have to downgrade core system components and install third-party drivers.

Nvidia is fine if you're an experienced user and you want the absolute highest game performance, but for new users especially an AMD card will provide a much better user experience.
The whole reason I switched in the first place is back a few years ago Nvidia could not support my displays native resolution 3840x2160 without numerous tweaks that would often get lost, and it couldn't handle text-mode for console at all.
Upgraded to an AMD card and everything literally just worked first time right out of the box.

>Try upgrading to kernel 5*, Nvidia drivers will break because you have to wait for Nvidia.
The claim was
>updates when the system updates.
or the distros won't even give you updated versions
So the question is, if I uninstall my nvidia drivers, and try to have mint upgrade, will it go to 5 via the system update? or is linux mint just on 4.15.0-46 right now regardless because it's repository updates slower than the linux kernel

>Explain how Windows 10 S could exist?
That's a retarded question. Why couldn't it?
>why did they add S Mode to every version of 10?
It was there on the release. macOS attracts people with its enabled by default protection of the user from themselves. "Store-only" is just MS' attempt of doing that.
>If win32 APIs weren't deprecated
But it isn't deprecated. You have no idea what UWP is.
>How can S Mode even function?
By having you use the store, that's another retarded question.
>why even make UWP?
For it to be "universal". That's what U in UWP stands for.
UWP *intentionally* has way less functionality than your regular WPF. Most of the .NET functionality is not supported by UWP by design. Its primary objective is to provide a "platform" - that's what P in UWP stands for - that can serve as a common ground for a huge variety of devices - PCs, consoles, phones, AR glasses, etc. It isn't aiming to replace Win32 because it pretty much can't. The most it can do is provide an easily portable alternative in some niche cases.

To answer your question about "UWP games" - if you manage to make a game in UWP it essentially requires no further work to port on any of UWP-supporting devices.

> and it couldn't handle text-mode for console at all.

This too, switch to a tty and enjoy that 480p stretched tty

you can either pirate it or buy for like 2 burgers
just get the LTSC version, any other I would rather use linux

>what version
Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit

>where did you get it
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>For it to be "universal". That's what U in UWP stands for.
Explain how a format that only works on a single version of a single OS is 'Universal'?

>Why couldn't it?
If win32 is an essential component of the system that Microsoft would not, could not ever remove support for, how were they able to make an OS without support for it?

You don't seem to realize Microsoft is moving on. They tell you straight up they're moving to their new closed platform and you deny that its happening.

>system may not even be able to display vesa mode
>may
This hasn't happened to me yet, again my point is my experience

I am not an experienced user, once the drivers have been installed via the 3 commands I posted above, my experience has not been sluggish, the update manager still handles everything without a problem, and the actual GUI doesn't change in most software because of a hardware change, only software that is specifically trying to take advantage of specific GPU features, such as OBS wanting NVENC instead of a different HW encoder

Nigga you can get a W7 ISO from microsoft for free.
All you need is an unlocker.
In fairness that's what that link could be, but I'm not clicking that.

5.0.3 here with a GTX 1070. Works just fine.

Certain distros go far out of their way to make Nvidia driver installation easy for users.

They even hold back on Xorg and kernel updates for people using Nvidia.

Some of them even manually run the command to generate xorg.conf (which open source drivers don't need)

Maybe you've never seen a tty before, because you've only used graphical login managers.

With some distros the experience with Nvidia drivers can be made easy, but you probably don't realize all the extra crap they're doing just to make Nvidia's blob work seamlessly.

It fundamentally works differently than kernel DRM driver + mesa, like both AMD and Intel use.

These are seamless and integrate with the system very well. The support from them is far better than waiting or relying on Nvidia.

>HDD failed
>Use Win8 key to get Win10 for free on another HDD during the free upgrade promotion
>Years later motherboard dies
>Get a new MB
>Win10 becomes unregistered

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>a format that only works on a single version of a single OS
But it isn't. UWP is supported by other MS products, namely Xbox and HoloLens. and Windows phones
>how were they able to make an OS without support for it?
But they didn't. It runs on win32. It just prevents you from installing/using applications that didn't come from the store, that's all.

As long as you stay within the normal scope of what Nvidia expects you to do, and you don't buy new hardware as soon as its out Nvidia is probably going to be fine. Its not too hard to find threads of users with odd monitors, or running KDE, or on rolling releases having problems.
The thing you keep missing is that its not always fine, and users who have AMD cards, or who buy an AMD card before they switch will have a better experience.

XP

does steam still work for you

64-bit 2016 Enterprise LTSB downloaded clean .iso from the-eye.eu then cracked using Microsoft%20Toolkit.exe

Based XP poster. What are your PC specs? I've seen some really nice dual socket xeon x5590 setups with windows XP

Pavel, go to bed.

>But they didn't. It runs on win32.
Nope, its literally UWP-only. It doesn't include the compatibility layer.
That's what Microsoft mean when they talk about 'legacy' everything that isn't a UWP.

>But it isn't. UWP is supported by other MS products, namely Xbox and HoloLens. and Windows phones
All of which run Windows 10 variants.

Why can't this 'universal' format run on my GNU/Linux system like a win32 exe can?

Windows 10 because it's easy
I got a key on ebay for 47 cents

10 LTSC
/r/ piracy

>Christ why does W10 fucking baby you like you're a fucking retard?

because most computer users are fucking retards

>With some distros the experience with Nvidia drivers can be made easy, but you probably don't realize all the extra crap they're doing just to make Nvidia's blob work seamlessly.
I am aware, but you're conflating what the devs do with user experience, I already said I am not defending Nvidia's actions

>It fundamentally works differently than kernel DRM driver + mesa, like both AMD and Intel use.
I am aware, but not every user is a dev, nor do they have to know how it works, it is called abstraction

>These are seamless and integrate with the system very well. The support from them is far better than waiting or relying on Nvidia.
I don't advocate people wait on Nvidia, I didn't buy my GPU, it was given to me. Sometimes people use what they have and in my case the Nvidia GPU's I was given work fine with Linux Mint

>Certain distros go far out of their way to make Nvidia driver installation easy for users.
I wish you would have said that from the start, rather than try to scare people into buying AMD before switching to linux

>They even hold back on Xorg and kernel updates for people using Nvidia.
I feel like there are other reasons too, but I can't prove it so i'll give you that

I did not say it is "always fine" the guy purported that you have to go with AMD implying that it is always bad, I merely came to point out it isn't always bad, my experience, has been the same, so you don't have to think it will ALWAYS be bad with nvidia. I would actually prefer people buy AMD cards but I want them to know Nvidia does work too, it isn't a lost cause

win 10 pro

debloated and tweaked

get higher fps than any cuck and just works

win10 because gsync for my freesync monitor only works on it

Is there anyway to remove the watermark and enable personalization on Windows 10 without cracking it or using KMSpico or Microsoft Toolkit?

>I wish you would have said that from the start, rather than try to scare people into buying AMD before switching to linux

If you are buying a new GPU and ever plan to use Linux, you should buy AMD because their open source drivers work better than Nvidia.

No one was saying that you can't use Nvidia on Linux, just that people who already own AMD GPUs will have a better experience, and they will be using open source.

An in-kernel DRM driver + mesa is generally less problematic.

For those who don't know, Windows 10 is pretty much free. You can download it legally from the official website and use it for as long as you like. But some settings are disabled and you'll have a watermark at the bottom right of the screen until you activate. Not very intrusive though.

LTSC OR Win 7?
Which one uses less ram and gets more fps?

I said scare people into buying AMD before switching, not say people can't use Nvidia at all

You may want to change some components out before you switch to Linux for ease of use.
if someone has an Nvidia card and they want to run Linux they should probably switch to AMD.
Its a bad user experience
Basically Nvidia drivers break every time

Doesn't explain to what extent, I wanted to give my different account, that it is not as bad as it was made to seem, it depends on the Distro, and such as in the case of Mint is has been painless

>Nope, its literally UWP-only
It literally isn't. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Windows store supports Win32 applications/
>It doesn't include the compatibility layer.
There's no such thing as a "compatibility layer" in this context.
>All of which run Windows 10 variants.
Well, that's a load of bullshit. They have the same core, but that doesn't mean they run the same OS. And that's precisely where UWP comes into play.
>Why can't this 'universal' format run on my GNU/Linux system like a win32 exe can?
Because you lack the "platform". The same way you can't actually "run" win32 .exe files directly on Linux you'll need Wine for that.

Not to mention, MS recently ported .NET Core to Linux which basically means there's a technical possibility of UWP support there already.
There are already bridges for Android and iOS.
An official UWP port for Linux is planned somewhere in the future.

Redpill me on which is overall best for gaming: 7, 8.1, or 10? I hear 7 has an XP compatibility layer that later versions don't, which may suit my needs more than having to be on the bleeding edge.

Just use a fucking Win10 pro, you absolute moron.

W10 Pro, got it for like 9 bucks off a Russian keysite, paid with a prepaid card so no worries. If it ever gets deactivated I'll just buy another one from some other site.

>there are retards here who still insist on using windows 7

HAHAHAHA, what the fuck. Just upgrade to 10 already you fucking morons
>b..but muh bloatware
strip it down, it's fucking easy
>b..but muh spyware
disable all that shit, it's easy
>b...but muh microsoft
then fuck windows, go use Linux. Steam now natively supports just about every game now because it has proton and wine built in, along with dxvk
>b..but i'm lazy
in that case, enjoy your slightly improved windows vista install. You guys are worse than the XP purists who still won't upgrade from that OS

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>allowing anyone touch your machine

The only good Windows version

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reddit.com/r/kde/comments/9wswj9/bringing_up_the_nvidia_situation_again/
Its not that hard to find threads of people complaining about the problems with the Nvidia driver.

You can have a decent experience with Nvidia on Linux, within certain confines, but the best Linux experience is had with open drivers.
Plus there's still other things that can be problematic like network hardware, even some keyboards and mice especially in the gaming market.
I have no problem telling people that if they want to run Linux and they're building or upgrading a new system they should keep it in mind and choose hardware from Linux friendly vendors.

Why in the hell would I use pro over ltsc?

Windows 10 for games like Sea of Thieves and the upcoming Battletoads

spyware sucks though

Win10 is the best for gaming because it has one more platform (the store) and supports DX12.

Aside from that, there's little difference between Win7 and Win10. And given DX12 support isn't exactly widespread, and the store isn't popular, currently, they are about equal for the purpose of gaming.

>XP compatibility layer
I don't think there's anything Win7 supports Win10 doesn't aside maybe for some edge cases of shit code.
I mean, you can run a VM yourself if you really want to. Hyper-V can be enabled for Win10 Pro. Or you can use VirtualBox or something.

>reddit link
Again, I am not saying it is always finie, I was saying it isn't always bad

>You can have a decent experience with Nvidia on Linux, within certain confines, but the best Linux experience is had with open drivers.
If you had said this instead of the first 3 posts I quoted then I would have never jumped in, that is far more fair and nuanced

This. UWP is "Windows" at its most basic, with everything stripped out for use in custom-built embedded systems. ATMs and IV injection machines don't need directX or Internet Explorer, but they do need to run this one app that lets them do what they do.
Of course that begs the question of why not just use Linux?

Imagine using KDE

Why the hell would you use an outdated OS with less functionality?

>Windows store supports Win32 applications/
If you're on a version of Windows that includes native support, or their current legacy compatibility layer.
Windows 10 S did not include it.

>There's no such thing as a "compatibility layer" in this context.
Its a user-space piece that enables you run run an application using a specific API. In what way is that not a compatibility layer? You don't seem to understand how Wine works.

>Well, that's a load of bullshit. They have the same core, but that doesn't mean they run the same OS.
They're more alike than GNU/Linux distributions are, which are also arguably all the same OS.

Legal Windows 7 Entreprise. Wont get rid of it and they cant make me

Currently using win10 home edition, with updates permanently disabled. So far I've avoided 50 updates that caused crashes, stuttering, file deletions, registry messups, and a few that even permanently bricked systems. So it's not too bad. I like to think I also got rid of most of the telemetry, but I know a good bit of it runs down all the way to the kernel, so I have to find other mitigations. Other than that, it's okay I guess. I miss windows 8.1.

>vista over XP
yep you are lying about something in this post

>An official UWP port for Linux is planned somewhere in the future.
As with Wine, there will be a better standards-based community implementation before Microsoft ever releases theirs. With the bonus that the community version will likely be focused on running games, whereas Microsoft's version will likely only work for business and server applications.
The increased simplicity of UWP and the fact D3D12 is a poor quality rip off of Vulkan basically guarantees it will be an easier problem to solve than Win32 and D3D11 were.

So why not switch sooner rather than later instead of putting up with malware from the OS vendor?

Last Windows update broke the user profile service and not even SFC could fix it. DISM worked.

8.1 is the OS I wish I was using.

Windows 10 Pro 1809. Got it for free 6 weeks ago by using the accessibility upgrade with my Windows 7 licensed machine (still works, despite what Microsoft has officially said on the matter).

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Windows 10 because the 2070 doesn't support 8.1

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Mint is Ubuntu without the overt spying that Canonical does on its user base. If you are using Ubuntu because you are afraid of Microsoft spying on you, then you might be retarded since Ubuntu is just as bad if not worse.

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please tell me in what way is LTSC outdated?

LTSC (literally long term servicing contract) gets updates twice a year. Conventional clients get monthly updates.

>spyware malware shitdows in 2019
I don't care if you're still running XP, you're running shitty spyware and malware that fucks you over. Macs are no better.

Run an OS that respects your freedom and that you completely and totally control, like GNU/Linux or *BSD.

Windows 10 Pro free version.

Incorrect. The LTS spin of Windows 10 gets security patches once a month just like the rolling release model, it however doesn't get feature updates which makes it significantly more stable and easier for businesses (since the build they image with is the same one 7 years down the road, allowing them to maintain software compliance and support for legacy applications that are normally broken by a rolling release model).

I patch systems as part of my job.

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You're still talking about that bundled amazon search that went away immediately and only ever existed on Unity?
Unity doesn't even exist, anymore. They're back to just shipping a barely modded Gnome.

>it broke user profile server
Why am I not surprised?

>If you're on a version of Windows that includes native support, or their current legacy compatibility layer.
>Windows 10 S did not include it.
That's factually wrong on many levels.
Windows 10S is Win32.
>In what way is that not a compatibility layer?
It's an OS, you dingus
>You don't seem to understand how Wine works.
You don't seem to understand how Wine works, even if it's not related here.
>They're more alike than GNU/Linux distributions are, which are also arguably all the same OS.
I bet in other threads you're screaming that Linux is a kernel, not an OS.
I also like how well you're informed on proprietary OS with closed code. Let me put it into a perspective for you. You can install (or compile) the same package for pretty much every Linux system and if the platform stays the same - it will work.
You can't take a program from Windows 10 and expect it to run on Xbox (or to compile) - as those are two different platforms. UWP, meanwhile, is a "platform" that makes such compatibility possible.

windows 10 1809 ltsc

LTSC is in very early stage and actually still buggy pointless using it you wont get updates for anything until next LTSC release
10 pro is the way to go or Win 7 Ultimate, but so used to 10 now it since I found scripts to debloat and configure it perfectly for my use without my resources getting raped by pre-installed garbage and services

I can personally do without security updates if you ask me. The problem is that, yes security is important, but I wouldn't trust Microsoft as far I could throw them with security. The way they "accidentally" make windows 8.1 and 7 less secure with each update, almost as if to incentivize people to upgrade. It just reeks of suspicious activity.

No, the chief intelligence officer at Canonical literally used to work as a department head at the NSA. They obfuscate or encrypt many of the binaries and have several accelerators that scan your system. Open up wireshark right now and try to do a system search for any file on your computer. See how it lights up like fucking Christmas.

hwid

To be fair I had my user directory redirected to a different hard drive. But that's still not an excuse to break the entire fucking registry and require an offline restore to get up and running.

LTS is what defense contractors and credit card processors use on their machines that handle finances. You're being needlessly paranoid. Feature updates are what kills Windows. Security updates close loopholes. Microsoft is fairly transparent about what each patch does.

Doesn't 8.1 have its own store as well?

Win 10 Pro. Bought a cheap random key online.

Win 7 and old hardware was failing totally after 9 years so I bought a complete new rig. Thought might as well use the DX 12.

if you do stuff on your gaymen computer for which security matters, like banking, you can probably get away with dualbooting Linux and 7, using Linux for things that need security and using 7 for vidya. Haxxors aren't going to steal your info from 7 if there's no info for them there to begin with, the worst thing they can do is lock your computer under ransom, at which point you can just nuke the partition and start over because it's just vidya and your save files will mostly be saved in the cloud anyway (assuming you're using Steam)

It seems to have one - I didn't know that. It seems the support for it is ending, though.

>You can't take a (win32) program from Windows 10 and expect it to run on Xbox (or to compile) - as those are two different platforms. UWP, meanwhile, is a "platform" that makes such compatibility possible.
Right that's what I'm saying. UWP represents a new platform that doesn't require the old legacy system. Microsoft have said they'd dropping the legacy system to go entirely into the new clean platform they've built. Not sure what's so hard about that to understand.

>You don't seem to understand how Wine works, even if it's not related here.
Its essentially a parallel system that supports win32 software. exactly like how Windows 10 now handles win32. If you wanted you could take Wine's codebase and create a system that doesn't support Linux applications. That is what ReactOS is. Just like how Microsoft can drop win32 and be entirely UWP.

LTSC or Pro (pirated ofc)?

>UWP represents a new platform that doesn't require the old legacy system
Sure, but it isn't the platform for Windows. It's a Windows platform.
>Not sure what's so hard about that to understand.
Well, you having no idea what you're talking about would be one thing. You being factually incorrect all the time would be another.
>Its essentially a parallel system that supports win32 software.
That's not how Wine works.
>exactly like how Windows 10 now handles win3
That's not how Windows works.
>Just like how Microsoft can drop win32 and be entirely UWP.
UWP is nowhere close to the level where it can be used to run a full-fledged OS.

I see you love to throw out retarded statements and expect people to refute them.
How would you explain the fact MS continues to invest in .NET development when the new features aren't going to be supported by UWP when according to your ass it's "the future"?
How would you explain the fact Windows 10 S runs Win32 programs when it's supposed to completely lack win32 API support, again according to your ass? The easiest example would be your usual explorer.exe. There's an actual UWP explorer out there, but Windows 10 S doesn't use it, it uses the regular win32 explorer.
How would you explain the fact MS expanding the win32 support by PC-targeted UWP apps when according to your ass they are about to drop it altogether? Windows Store wasn't supporting win32 initially.

Explain that to me, user. I'm eager to listen.

Microsoft continues .NET because there will always be a need for ASPX & .NET applications, which can run inside UWP, and even on Linux natively now.

>KDE
oh god please no don't remind me about all the tearing

Just installed pirated Win 10, can I officially update that shit or does it have the same crap as "Windows 7 is not genuine" ?

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Windows 7 = Choice for older games
Windows 8.1 = Patrician in between
Windows 10 = Microsoft Store games / Xbox One controller
Linux = Choice for games that don't require a beast of a computer
macOS = Only good for emulation and fucking indie shit

proud cuck

That's not how it works.
Most of the features .NET has can't run on UWP. Development for UWP is highly restricted in terms of using the actual .NET features.
.NET Framework (as opposed to, say, Core) only targets Windows and nothing else. It isn't exactly collecting dust - there's a version of it currently in development.

>macOS = Only good for emulation

*BRAAAAPFPFPPF*

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Well yeah, even that isn't too accurate. But at the very least input lag is fucking none, I was surprised with that one. Meanwhile on linux, if I use something like retroarch it's quite noticeable unless I disable compositing.

>Xbox One controller
Linux currently has better support for the Xbox One controller than 7

I know, and that fucking blows. I want to use my xbone controller over bluetooth on 7 or 8.1.

I don't even remember. Probably 10.
I turn it on, launch a game, then let it hibernate after I'm done.
Don't remember last time I used it for anything but vidya.

w10 home the one who automatically enable auto update whenever you disable it at service

I hope you don't have an SSD.

It's true considering most macOS hardware only has an integrated GPU.
Macs that have a GPU can run AAA games perfectly well. Both of them.

now post that faggot complaining about Skyrim running like shit on his mac while he's imagining being at computers.

user explain yourself. For what reason are you running a windows version that isn't LTSC or LTSB?

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I'm not a retard who runs outdated cracked unlicensed software and pretends he cares about his "privacy".
I also know how to set up updates so they never interrupt my flow.

Is there an in-depth compatibility list for these Windows versions out there that'll help me determine which one I should use?

Windows 7.

I only play old games and browse the internet. I'm only going to upgrade when I'm forced to.

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Just get a copy through your tech industry job user its ez

>pretends
Let me guess, you're the kind of person who thinks using facebook is a good idea.

Compatibility is not that much of an issue. What you have to keep in mind is that on 10, as opposed to 7 and 8.1, there's a store with a few games that are exclusive to it and only work on windows 10. Which are mostly the microsoft exclusives (gears of war, forza, crackdown 3, etc).

And that maybe a few select games run better on 10 than previous versions as well. But that's very few. For instance GTA V is one of them, it runs considerably better on 10 than 7 or 8.1. But it doesn't mean it won't run on those.

I think I probably could if I asked. They did buy me a mac because I needed one.
That being said, I run Insider anyway.

7 x64 SP1 Ultimate
dunno who I got it from back in the day

Windows 10, came with my prebuilt.

>prebuilt
I bought it back when gpu prices were still crazy high. I did the math back then and I was actually saving money before I factored in the price of the OS and the KBM it came with. This was a good deal for once.

In my experience, CD-R's don't work on 10. I had to pirate AoE2 even though I had the disk.

7 ultimate
tpb

I think it's whatever.
I don't really care about the privacy of my personal information as I only tend to provide what I'm comfortable sharing.
I literally don't care about the automated anonymized data-mining everything does nowadays as that's the reality that makes my life easier so I'm okay with that.

What I would care about, though, is using tampered software and running scripts the contents of which I don't know. Things like these open a possibility of a personal attack which is something much more dangerous than any "botnet" out there as it can easily be a literal botnet.

Given that, people who pretend to care about the former but not about the latter are a mystery to me, as I see the latter being a much more severe version of the former so it makes literally no sense.

Prebuilts being cheaper than their components combined isn't that uncommon.
The problem with prebuilts tends to be the obviously suboptimal hardware choices. Like you get high-end CPU and GPU but on a budget motherboard, terrible PSU, and 2600 CL18 memory

there's the problem with old windows live games, windows 10 refuses to make them work lol.
windows 7 plays everything like a champ

>Linux = Choice for games that don't require a beast of a computer

You actually need more of a beast of a computer than Windows to run games because of performance hit that Wine/DXVK can introduce.

You can run AAA demanding 3D games like Nier Automata or Sekiro perfectly on Linux for example, but it requires a bit more resources than native Windows.

Not only that but there is a legacy X direct draw bug in Linux that results in about 20% performance loss on all spins. Linux gaming is bad.

>Not only that but there is a legacy X direct draw bug in Linux that results in about 20% performance loss on all spins.
Wtf are you talking about? Can you link to any sort of bug describing what you actually mean?

>on all spins.
I think you apparently just used "spins" to refer to Linux distributions.

You have no clue what you're talking about.

>Linux gaming is bad.
And Windows is a bad operating system.

Linux gaming is better than ever at least. I'd rather play what I can on Linux than ever use Windows.

based

Direct draw is an API used to render 2D information, which is a majority of information in any modern 3D game. Scaleform uses it, UI uses it, textures and meshes use it and the actual act of rendering the window that contains the application uses it.

linux fucking sucks

Directdraw is implemented through Wine. How the fuck would Xorg effect that?

Honestly post any sort of bug report verifying your claim or stop spreading bullshit.

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He's talking about Linux idiot

or you can use the superior debian. and xfce is the best de

Or you can stand above all and use Gentoo, the GODS distro, it's fun to look down and laugh at plebs.

all of you fucktards that use w10 do not belong here, or anywhere else except a graveyard, mental asylum and reddit

just use regular Ubuntu or Ubuntu MATE if you want the classic (and lightweight) interface

Ubuntu gets #1 priority in updates and compatibility, and Mint and others are all Ubuntu derivatives anyway

switch to Ubuntu MATE

Win 10 educational that I upgraded from a pirated copy of 8