Is there any actual example of the bottom except for Persona series?

Is there any actual example of the bottom except for Persona series?

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I think the better question is if there's an actual example of the top at all. Not even restricted to WRPGs, just games in general.
>Inb4 Planescape
No.

>console gamer
Not for you, kiddo.

who makes these images? i can't imagine a normal human being doing this sort of shit

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Not an argument (or answer, for that matter).

I wouldn't really take any of the various shit-flinging between wrpg's and jrpg's seriously
But personally I found the demon fusing addicting as hell and preferred the dungeons to the social links

Brasilians who can't afford video games so they just manipulate retards into arguing with each other.

There are no games that are equal to reading actual philosophy. Ultima 4 + 5 are arguably philosophical, as is Alpha Centauri. Vidya is an extremely degenerate passive hobby that will not improve you in anyway. (however, unlike what is displayed on the bottom of the pic, the top will most likely not actively harm you)

Have you played other MegaTen games?

There was that one JRPG where you could knock up your party members. I think it was called Conception?
But yeah, anything on the bottom is going to be persona clones like that or straight up VNs. Only other thing I could think of would be the newer Fire Emblems.

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Most ideafactory/compileheart games are fanservice-centric, same with gust stuff (although some atelier games are very solid even with all the fluff dialogue and shit). Some of the Vita catalogue is also like that. But overall it's just WRPG-kun crying about his favorite genre not getting enough attention.

based

>weebs
Just play a fucking porn game and leave your stupid-ass softcore dating games out of mainstream gaming.

Why did Persona drop so fucking hard after 2? Fucking unfair, mang.

But WRPGs have marketed their romance options as selling points to the game.

Not a lot, I played devil survivor overclocked and some of soul hackers

been playing trough Geneforge series lately (almost done with 3) and I gotta tell you I defintely feel like the top of the image. I had to do a lot of soul searching to figure out what factions make more sense, especially in the 3rd one.
had to go rebel, just can't go pro-shaper and still look at my virtual self in a virtual mirror

Shh. Let people pretend their favorite genre is bigbrain-tier.
Geneforge and other games by that bro are legit overlooked gems tho. Really. Go play them if you like RPGing in general.

the KOTOR games

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Are the Hues that smart and sneaky?

If you're okay with random skill selection in fusing, I'd recommend Nocturne and Strange Journey for fusan and dungeons.

>can't sniff pantyhosed elven ass in WRPGs

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Recommend me a complex RPG or JRPG, I am trying to get into Elona+ but the controls are confusing

What are some other games with complex and hard to decipher mechanics? The only thing I remember that did this is the Legend of Mana golem crafting and weapon imbuing.

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Before p3 it was just a smt lite in a world that has not ended yet.

>Before p3 it was just a smt lite in a world that has not ended yet.
That's also Devil Summoner

>Making this thread after DMC5 and Sekiro
Wh*te people are an embarrassment

examples of what? games that offend resetera and discord trannies? every japanese game does that.

Why is it always wrpgfags ragging on jrpgs and not the other way around?
It's almost as if those guys are super defensive and butthurt all the time.

Neither of those are RPGs.

LOL that game is linear wtf are you talking about.

I'd say fallout series

>Limiting yourself to a single genre when countless games exist
Pathetic.

>Being this new

being able to appreciate kicking back and relaxing improves person in my eyes
there are too many worker bees buzzing about

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Maybe in the 90s this was accurate, now WRPGs are all dumbed down over the shoulder or lmao open world experiences with less depth than even the most simple JRPG. Sucks too because a lot of the early PC WRPGs were great

I want to annex my nose to that asshole

>game attempts to explore philosophy
>same old stale topics and thinkers that any moderately aware high school kid will have heard of
>most basic level of understanding, if not a common misrepresentation
>writers seem completely unaware of how the field and its topics have developed over the last 150 years.
yep, don't play games if you're looking for enrichment. fucking star trek does a better job than any game I've come across.

They're just bitter Americans who are looking for pity after based Japan shat all over them again.

>complex
>fascinating
>constructed world
>fallout 4
>mass effect andromeda
>dragon inquistion

Hey, I guess if you like the illusion of being open, but basically filled with nothing but fetch quest. EVERY.SINGLE.PLANET in Andromeda was big open mass of nothing.

They get paid.

a brazilian wrote that
they always type brazil with s

yes maybe 10-20 years ago
>2019 wrpg
transgender main character, party must consist of at least 3 or more females (in a party of 5)
>2019 jrpg
soul, good music, fun gameplay, cute characters, and based

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Cause that's brasil's actual name. I don't know why it's a z in english

vita games. one I played years ago was about a bunch of school kids with unlocked powers or some shit. persona lite clone.

This, most sandbox games are absolute trash that trade good gameplay and story for boring sidequest. RDR2 is fucking trash, and a pointless sequel. deal with it.

>Yea Forums
>normal
It took you this long to realize this board is just a bunch of autists?

If you are talking about Caligula effect that's literally written by the old persona writer

Hold strong friend

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>if it's not a friend/dating simulator then it's just smt
yeah ok kid

Same tee bee ache

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checked

>JRPGfag
>"I want to fuck Chie."
>WRPGfag
>"I want to fuck Jeanette."

WRPGs have always been better, more immersive, more complex yet somehow less obtuse than JRPGs. Even counting the AAA games that you people love to shit on.

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>soul searching

Why are westerners so full of themselves? This is why nobody likes you people

>he actually thinks this
Both sides keep flinging poop over the fence back and forth with the same cherrypicked pictures

>Yea ForumsRPGfag
>I want to fuck anyone, please

Pc has several games in different genres that will turn pleabians and zoomers away because they require planning and thinking out shit. City builders and some crpgs are just 2 examples.

t. discord tranny

>soul
yeah right. Games in general have been dumbed down. The only thing JRPG's have over WRPG's is that their cute characters are consistent.

roguelikes
4x
planetary defense simulators
RTS

You'd be surprised.

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better than being a frogboy.

City builders are normie shit

based and rectumpilled

>muh wrpg
>talks only about games 20+ years old
talk about fucking stalled in nostalgia.

It literally started with wrpgs shitting on jrpgs.
The japanese versions are all directly made to counter the originals and to continue what the other side started.

I won't deny both are retarded about it.

The early Megaten games had similar dialogue that was at least less infantile. Or if it was stupid it at least had the decency to take it to farcical levels of stupidity such as outdancing demonic Michael Jackson.

imagine missing out on some of the best video game experiences ever due to your prejudices.

So only one of the several criteria. Neat.

>Before p3 it was just a smt lite in a world that has not ended yet.
>completely different gameplay and story focuses on characters rather than alignments

the infantile humor is what makes Star Control 2 so great. It definitely stands out compared to other RPGs.

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> Getting closer to illumnation with video games
Kill yourself op

Man, Adams and Pratchett have a lot to answer for, so many western games of that era had fucking awful attempts at that kind of humour.
Especially fucking Sierra games for some reason.

I played those game, a long fucking time ago. Get over masturbating over the same old shit over and over for years.

>city builders
>crpgs
>RTS
All of these are simplistic and easily accessible genres and were massively popular among normalfag plebians when they still got big releases eg. Simcity and Age of Empires. The somewhat recent surge in rougelike indie games leads me to believe that they are the same but I see a lot of people calling those 'rougelites' or something so maybe it doesn't count

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brap

normalfags the way we know them today didn't play PC games when RTS was popular. Find a normalfag and give him a copy of AoE and see how well he does.

>normalfags the way we know them today didn't play PC games when RTS was popular
They absolutely did
>Find a normalfag and give him a copy of AoE and see how well he does
Times change, the game is now too old to be popular with modern normalfags

Quads confirm.

I believe that self improvement and learning is entirely on the person, and not the work. Someone who is willing to learn can be impacted by Sonic Adventure 2, while someone who is not willing can read every Dostoyevski book from front to back and learn nothing.

>huemonkeys are capable to write understandable english
Those are made by turbo-autist burgers and you know it.

i'd say roguelikes are still inaccessible to normalfags because not even pokemon mystery dungeon was ever able to get mainstream critical and commercial success.

Larry's cute

>someone who is not willing can read every Dostoyevski book from front to back and learn nothing.
If I were to post something riding on this post at the expense of Dostoyevski, would I get a free pass in Yea Forums?

>simplistic and easily accessible genres
try something such as "Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom" or Caesar

When I was a kid every WRPG fan was like "Wow this game is great, you can kill kids and fuck whores, so realistic and cool!"
Nowadays they only play them because they used to play the originals as a kid

This one

Great game btw

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There are a few other JRPGs that feature high school as a setting like Trails of Coldsteel and Caligula Effect. Shinning Resonance had school stuff for some post-endgame missions too.

I don't think there's any other one aside from Persona that actually includes the whole daily life management part as gameplay rather than just using the school as a setting.

>modern Bethesda
>complex and fascinating constructed

Fallout 1,2 and new vegas

>but what about this one specific game nothing like the rest of the genre
nah

The only things that effected my philosophy are Japanese based hero shows like Super Robot things, tokusatsu or Dengeki Stryker and Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. Most other philosophy has done nothing for me because it's either too metaphysical, or impractical for anything but "thinking" about.

I just play whatever has the smuggest lolis.

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Nah, JRPGs somehow have more and more complex systems nowadays, aside from maybe Final Fantasy. The dumbing down of mechanics of western games never caught on there.

>in game book
>only 2 paragraphs long
>completely irrelevant to game
>every room has 2 shelves full of this shit
fuck whoever thought this was a good idea

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That's two games and there are plenty of games like that, like Hearts of Iron.

it's shit compared to smt.

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Stay strong, user

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Kinda like said, people who get a kick from watching people argue with each other

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Philosophy in general is useless though

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post more brappers

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It's a good way to pretend you're smart.

Underrated post.

PoE economy.

I don't know if this is a joke I'm not getting but I haven't played PoE so explain.

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Your best bet would be to go to a site like matrixgames.com and browse. For instance,
matrixgames.com/products/797/details/Command.Desert.Storm

>fanart

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Well fuck. I don't know if that's brilliant, sad, or a little scary.

does Yukiko have any popularity, I don't see her very often

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it's scary how brilliantly sad it is.

Wait till you hear about the /gw2g/ guy

Do tell.

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>Geneforge
My man! Now that's some exquisite ta-
>rebel
Never mind.

Go on /vg/, make a thread with /gw2g/ in the title, watch what happens
Apparently a butthurt furry got kicked from the general so he has bots or something to spam any thread about it at lightning speed
They copy and paste random posts and images from every other general but changes the reply links to be other posts in the thread so it looks like they're talking to each other

got the awakened ending in both 1&2 while sucking up every canister I could possibly find destroyed the geneforge in 1 after using it too. I'd go full Taker if they were slightly less zealous and insane. Takers are the only ones that know what's up.

Zero/Ao no Kiseki and Trails of Cold Steel.

I mean
>Morrowind
The 36 Lessons of Vivec are actually pretty cool. Most of what Kirkbride shit out was, at least when he had some checks and balances on his mad genius.
Also you can't say Planescape like it doesn't count, Planescape is fucking great. Ultima 4/5 are both bretty gud.

They already accomplished what they wanted to do with the spinoff. There was nothing else to make, but since it was making them money they had to strike while the iron was hot. What followed was essentially a spinoff of a spinoff.

The difference is Persona is way better than any Western RPG by merit of being fun

>Panties under pantyhose
Elder god fetish right there

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you are right about that, but you ruined it with your pedo shit.

The Geneforge games are amazing, I'm surprised Spiderweb games in general aren't talked about more on Yea Forums

I always feel like I'm shoehorning them in discussions about CRPGs

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You mean the RPG everyone pretends its good because you can kill the abrahamic God and the plot is always the same but within diferent subcontexts?

It's ALWAYS the same crap. Law is bad, Chaos and Neutral are good. Pick a side and kill your friends who don't agree and turn into monstrosities, or say fuck everything and destroy the world. IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME.

And don't even make me get started with the crap that Apocalypse was and the "happy nakama ending" they pulled out of their asses, which now they also implemented into SJ Remake in order to make every single alignment a color swapped version of each other.

And the games are not deep, they just grab a bunch of gnostic and satanic philosophy and put it together with duct tape claiming its good writing.

Because JRPGs still exist.

Stalker. It's not a rpg though.

Congrats on only playing the 3DS games retard

The sort of people that like JRPGs are generally more open to weird shit, silly tropes and a range of art directions and styles. WRPGfags feel the need to shit on what makes them uncomfortable, especially because JRPGs just don't give a fuck about trying to give them what they consider a good game.

WRPGs pay more attention to romance and involve it in the story more than any JRPG I've ever played.
Romance in JRPGs usually feels like an afterthought with the actual relationship dynamic being identical between all options.

dumb americans proclaiming morrowind as an example of a good RPG always cracks me up
babby's first rpg game

>pedoshit

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based and ironpilled

cringe and GEDpilled

Cope

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"complex and hard to decipher" =/= completely non-functional

based Callicles

Get out newfag

Jrpgs do the harem anime thing and hint that you could bang any of the girls, but they never want to set anything in stone so that the player can project himself into the story and pick his favorite girl. Its a structure that prioritizes wish fulfillment over story to the point that there are very few decent romances in jrpgs.

I thought she wore a wetsuit

Well at the same time it also depends on who you romance for WRPGs. Some characters get way more attention than others.
Take ME3 for example, if you're following along a romance for anyone that's going to be in your party there's a lot of attention to it but if it was an ME2 party member that wasn't in the 3 party, you got fucking shafted.

>le every pokegirl is 10 meme

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>Drop
It only got better

The only good thing about KotOR was setting. Other than that it's just a fucking NWN, but more shallow. Well, story is better than NWN, but it is still meh.

I also don't like romance in JRPG's because the japanese have a very different culture when it comes to romance that are often very difficult to relate to as westerners.

>play a modern WRPG
>oh hello user, give me a minite, some guy is fucking my ass right now, when he's done with that I can fuck your ass
When was the last time we got a good WRPG not from Europe?

>imagine missing out on some of the best video game experiences ever due to your prejudices
We already played those games 20 years ago. Bringing them up now is a fucking moot point when they came out 20 years ago.

Imagine loving videogames (that sure takes a lot of imagination for typical Yea Forums user). Now imagine being around some faggot bragging about how deep and meaningful the newest FIFA game is.
That's pretty much how things are.

>Dostoyevski
>learn
maybe if you're an edgy teenager

In the witcher 3 you literally defend trannies while shitting on an "alt right" character.

>A life sim feels tries to make you feel like you are living that life
Do people not understand or even know that that genre even exists? Yeah sure next time I play Princess Maker I will be all like "Yes I sure feel like im an actual father, please escape from home and be a shitty brat I need to scold you" I feel like I could insult every genre in existence with these dumb simplifications.

Baldur's Gate 1+2
Planescape: Torment
Fallout 1
Morrowind
KOTOR
I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream

>We already played those games 20 years ago.
no you didnt. nu/v/ only played obsidian and bioware garbage. they genuinely believe those are what RPGs are. if you haven't played gold box, arkania, might and magic, etc. fuck off

kek

>Now imagine being around some faggot bragging about how deep and meaningful the newest FIFA game is.
Yeah, WRPG fags are pretty guilty of that, I agree.