You can criticize a game now for not being political enough

But it's a Tom Clancy(tm) game, isn't the political thriller storyline one of the main components of those?

speaking of tom clancy
how many rotations is he doing because of division 2?

It's weird how consumer guides and serious criticism are lumped into the same category.

Consumer guides will pan something even if they think it's a masterwork, in cases where that masterwork wouldn't be acceptable to the mainstream audience. Whereas a serious critic would do the opposite. So why are their scores not separated?

They like games, but they didn't learn to code?

the soviets have been gone for 20 years at this point, I don't know why you expected the story in a fucking tom clancy game to be anything other than a bland backdrop for a grindy but well-presented cover-based-shooter

that's not what critics are mad about, they're low key mad about it not pandering to their personal politics

like how does this even work, it's a fucking videogame, if there's ANYTHING to complain about it's how fucking bland the fucking gameplay is but no they bend over backwards to start talking about politics

Both the games and novels are more about milsim larping than having strong themes in the general sense. It's genre-fiction, milsim style.

I don't get this bizarre myth that only the recent games would have triggered Clancy. His games have been all over the place for decades.

The nazis have been gone for 70 years, but that doesn't stop the left from seeing them in every shadow!

The say this about every single Ubisoft release at this point.
Far Cry 5 was literally fascist because it showed right wing anti-government gun owners as good guys.
Odyssey had a DLC that was considered anti-LGBT because you had to have a straight relationship as part of the story.
Never mind that you're playing as a descendant of one of those characters so them making a child was necessary, that implication is not allowed in current year.

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Sorry journo, I'll be getting BGE2 day one, seethe more about no dumbass american politics.

don't start you retarded /pol/ nigger i'm talking about video games and retarded games journos.

For once the tripnigger is right

>if there's ANYTHING to complain about it's how fucking bland the fucking gameplay is
You're probably comparing it to TPS and general action adventure classics. By the standards of co-op loot shooting Div 1 and 2 are probably the most aesthetic with the best gun feel and balancing.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Even Die Hard has themes. A ton of action games are openly political. The entire Metal Gear franchise, Deus Ex, Bioshock, etc. Fucking Resident Evil 4 has the villain quip about American foreign policy.

What you idiots don't seem to understand is that political is not the same as partisan (especially American partisanship).

See above.

I haven't played an AAA title in fucking years. Isn't that just their way of saying the story is dull and bland? If you're going to set a game in a semi-post apocalypse world where society has failed maybe you'd expect a story to have something interesting to say instead of it just being an excuse to have a shitty shooter. Didn't we have a solid decade where those were the dominant games on the market? I remember games like HAZE and Killzone and sixty million CoD knockoffs ad nauseum. It feels like games want to use settings as a setpiece without actually having to go into it at all.

Compare it to something like Deus Ex, at least that game had something to say about its setting.

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>What you idiots don't seem to understand is that political is not the same as partisan (especially American partisanship).
that's nice but that's not what it means when modern games journalists ask for politics, the only people to ask for them are exactly the people that are already heavily politically partisan

>be in college with no real clue what to do
>english sounds easy enough
>creative writing too
>get into vidya writing because the bar is so fucking low
>fast forward 5 years
>vidya is boring
>politics is much more interesting
>no other skills
>no other contacts
>bring as much politics in my articles as possible to keep me from blowing my brains out

Incels and sohyebohyes alike resent Ubichad at this point, nothing can stop them bringing out 8/10s non-stop. The lack of snowflake politics is the icing on the cake.

it's genuinely the most boring co-op shooter ever invented, one could just call it gray and brown cover shooter and it would completely communicate what the game is about

even the shitty gears of war rip off from the 360 era were more inventive

Quebec is a province of little people, without direction, will, or talent. From the French they inherited the awful socialism which saps away at intellectual rigor and development, and ruins the free individual. Further still, they aspire to be more and more like France, and emulating them is seen as virtue. However, from the English, they have also inherited vices: the ideological obsessions with the State, and diversity and representation. Quebec is isolated, and keeps itself that way through an awful architecture of its own: whatever the Quebecois seek, whatever they wish, the majority always wish to categorize them and force them into the tiny box of nationalism and false oppression. Although formed through a history of real oppression, modern Quebec uses this as a rhetorical device to refuse to see its true corruption, lack of development, and poor policies. Quebec is a failure.

>The say this about every single Ubisoft release at this point.
Because Ubi are the only AAA publisher making shooty games set in present day.

it is actually kind of scary how ubisoft has perfected the assembly-line release of solid 8/10's.

>Because Ubi are the only AAA publisher making shooty games set in present day without jamming in contemporary identity politics like DICE or bethesda did.
fixed it for you

It actually is funny, I guess the french assholes are just really tone deaf to the current going-ons that they constantly step into shit left and right, but it's never that major so it just makes people who complain about it seem entirely petty.
Oh no they put girls listening to lectures in Odyssey even though it isn't historically accurate.
Oh no they implied in Division 2's opening that you might want to own a gun if shit hits the fan.

>why didn't this french-canadian studio address american politics
>all media must revolve around our political climate because we are entitled american "intellectuals"
I hate americans so fucking much

>DICE
>bethesda
>present day games
when was that? 2012?

oh shit my bad

There's nothing 8/10 about ubi's retarded crap. It's slick, sure, but it's also dementedly buggy and generic.

Yeah, and those same retarded game journos were mad cos division 2 didn't go out of its way to condemn muh evil nazis.
If that fat faggot guy is anything to go by, anyway.

>8/10
more like passable 6.5/10

>it's genuinely the most boring co-op shooter ever invented, one could just call it gray and brown cover shooter and it would completely communicate what the game is about
It has the best environments in the genre though. NYC is peak.

>even the shitty gears of war rip off from the 360 era were more inventive
Those weren't restricted to being co-op lootshooters yet they still look worse.

It's because they don't really have any famous individual geniuses or directors, it's more like the company structure and the accumulation of good IPs dictates solid quality. It's both a limitation and a buffer.

>It's slick, sure, but it's also dementedly buggy and generic.
Petty brainlet complaints.

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>It has the best environments in the genre though. NYC is peak.
peak boredom yes, mundane city scapes are yawn inducing
>Those weren't restricted to being co-op lootshooters yet they still look worse
what?

>not calling the game "2nd Divsion"
missed opportunity

>peak boredom yes, mundane city scapes are yawn inducing
Post something comparable then.
>what
loot-shooters are severely limited in scope compared to TPS campaigns. It's not the same genre, yet you seem to judge it by those standards.

Do they really want Ubisoft to get political though? They didn't like it last time.

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They only want pro-Left political messages. They'd demonise it if it promoted individualism, Capitalism, and deregulation.

"""Journalists""" have a barrow to push. You're retarded if you don't realise that by now.

lol bro-shooters are so fucking cool and fun, no idea why their chillness triggers critics so much.

>loot shoot is not generic
>ubi games are not buggy as fuck
8/10 denotes a game of outstanding quality, incredible ideas and gameplay elements. No Ubi game in a long-ass time came even close to that.

Before buying an rpg, I always ask myself "would I still play this if there was no progression?" if the answer is no, it's always a hard skip. Yes isn't a guarantee though. Good thing this game passed my test. Do not regret spending $90 on it.

wasn't this the opening episode of bebop as well?
Based 2bdesu.

Which game is this? Wildlands?

jesus those things are fucking huge

If you hate the genre itself then you're fucking retarded to pan the game on that basis. You're hating the genre, not the game.

Basically the same reason retards trash RTS games, and they never get good scores. Because brainlets like you think you should be evaluating games in genres you don't even care for.

It's weird how people complain about it not being a complete action game even though there's loads of games they could play like that instead.

they're mad that ubisoft realized that political agendas don't sell
they were pissed about farcry 5 too

What do you mean by progression specifically?

Yeah, there isn't much story but what is there is complete AMERICA FUCK YEAH and showing how much of a shithole South America is. The player characters never express an ounce of remorse for what they're doing like a lot of military games. Bolivia actually complained to the French embassy about the game.
If you told me /pol/ wrote the game I'd believe it.

Grinding for 15 hours would result in the exact same character you have as before you started grinding.

They just HAD to take a stab at Anthem did they? And on the review title as well? This is why I hate IGN they fucking suck.

>western video games
>western video games journalists

All games are political but this game sucks because it's not political

A terrorist attack devastates Washington which upends the leadership of the country, the former President is gone, quarantines are enacted after a modified virus is used as a biological weapon to kill American civilians, and classified government operatives have to help investigate the bioweapon and attack the people responsible for the crisis? Yeah, Clancy would have never stood for such a ridiculous premise.

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>compare new release in genre A to older title in genre A because the latter was such an insane stinker
Tell us how you really feel, Casey.

Political is code word for "my politics" which is far left millennial American identity politics in the case of video game "journalists" and their circle jerk.

>t. incel

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They have strong opinions on what should and shouldn't be in vidya, same as you. They just get paid to state them publicly to generate discussions, like this one

This.

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Oh yeah, I agree with that. Would've called it grind-heavy instead, though
How's the progression in Div 2 then? Upgrades to health stats, new weapons and gears?

Hit max level and a ton of shit just unlocked that's overwhelming. There's plenty of progression, and how the gear perks work and the gear scoring is more than just "put bigger number on". I didn't play the division 1 though.

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If you didn't get the memo "political" just means shoehorning leftist propaganda.
The problem they have with The Division is that the game basically implies having guns might not be the worst thing ever. In a game about constantly collecting slightly shinier guns.

JUST

Also the intro is apparantly right leaning because it asks if you had a gun and has pictures of falling Starbucks cups.