Do video games ever touch on serious stuff like philosophy?

Do video games ever touch on serious stuff like philosophy?
If game devs want games to be accepted as art, shouldn't they push for more of it in their games?
The only game I can think if where that was the case was Braid and it wasn't very good. Hell, most of you have probably forgotten about it.

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Fuck that strawman comic strip

deus ex touches on philanthropy quite a bit user

is that supposed to be excommunicate

What does top right mean?

>deus ex
The first one? Yeah, you're right, forgot about it for some reason.
>philanthropy
Dumb phonepostster
I don't think you understand what strawman means.

If you obsessively hate something for too long, you become no better than it. Literally folk common sense tier, but retards think it's deep.

See Yea Forums. After years of laughing at SJW, Yea Forums become into them.

Deus ex is nothing more than a pseud commie rant about the evils of technology and how capitalism is bad because it invented all the technology.
I'm still mad Yea Forums told me it was good.

Its unfairly presenting your opponent's argument in a way that makes them look overly simplistic or unflattering. And only intellectually dishonest people with no argument to make themselves do this. Its hurr durr speak. Now fuck off.

He who fights monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes back at you. Good advice, says it's common sense but if that were true it would probably happen less constantly.

>Deus ex is nothing more than a pseud commie rant about the evils of technology and how capitalism is bad
Please tell me you are a zoomer who only played the new games instead of the original and not an actual retard who can't read.

>jordan peterson
>philosophy
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>Retard Americuck detected.
Don't you have some freedom and liberity to find?

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What "arguments"?

>>philanthropy
>Dumb phonepostster
wasn't Nietzsche a philanthropist?

>wasn't Nietzsche a philanthropist?
no?

I played the first one, the one made by ion storm that looks like shit and I regret it.
The story centers around a group of terrorists being the good guys (major red flag already) because they fight against the capitalist leaders and corporations. They do this because it's a commie power fantasy of course but their justification in-game is that they hate technology because it gives corporations more power and that's bad somehow. Game doesn't really say why, we're just supposed to hate the corporations because the game was made by radical leftist cuckholds who can't imagine an apolitical villain to save their life.
The shooting was also shit, for the first 3 levels I had to stand in place for 10 seconds so that my gun would fire in a straight line. Yea Forums lied to me, it's shit.

Yes it does, just not the AAA shit and other most popular crap. See stuff like Talos Principle(although it's more of a introduction to general philosophy rather than some deep message on its own) and Ice Pick Lodge's games

>ecommunicate
with like e-mail?

clean your room bucko

>we're just supposed to hate the corporations because the game was made by radical leftist cuckholds
We're probably meant to hate them because their creating a super virus that's killing everyone on the planet

lol what are you a bigot ?
You should have more tranny
We only get shit tier references like in Nier (though the story is pretty good).
DESU games take too long to do complex interesting ideas. Written word is still the most input>output energy conservative.

t. incel

good image. the ones below are just retards on a soapbox. wannabe truth tellers and not to mention, demagogues.
while the two above make you think on your own.

also
>games as art
fuck off

>Game doesn't really say why, we're just supposed to hate the corporations because the game was made by radical leftist cuckholds who can't imagine an apolitical villain to save their life.
youtube.com/watch?v=WdwMexdjiaQ
It tells you exactly why and it even names the jew but no it's sjw nonsense

It says more about the times when a great thinkers advice is to not lie. Why is incel OP making a /pol/ thread anyway?

I think you are pretending to be stupid, because first half of the game you spend fighting the terrorist and another being supported by the same capitalist that supported the terrorists because even bigger technocrat wants all the power.
It is sublime on levels impossible this day.

Yes

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holy fuck has this board seriously fallen this far?

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Video games can be art by definition, there's nothing to discuss. People who claim that video games can't be art are objectively wrong.

>Talos Principle
Alright, alright, the philosophy in that was okay, even if basic. Gameplay wise? Tried to be a shitty, tedious copy of Portal. Puzzles felt more like a chore than anything really fun. Gave up halfway through and used a walkthrough just to get through them as fast as possible. I don't regret it.

>someone says x game is about philosophy
>it's just more of the same old deprecated traditions

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Who fucking cares

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Interactions with Caesar in Fallout New Vegas unironically makes you think
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>CLEAN YOUR ROOM
Oh fuck This is such a high level and complex philosophy. Truly the most intelligent person of our time

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>wojak

You tell me.

Makes you think like Anders Breivik or Brenton Tarrant.

ONE

Wash your penis bucko.
Is Nier Automata a good example of a game touching on philosophy? I'm a brainlet on this sort of shit.

MORE TIME
MUSIC

Made me think about his this managed to slip through quality control

They can spark some curiosity, but you'll learn more in reading one hour of texts than playing a so-called philosophical game to completion.

Pretty reductive way of describing the ideas Peterson puts forward. He's an interesting and obviously very intelligent bloke imo.

>The philosophical concept of Hegelian dialectics, used by the likes of Marx, Engels and Lenin, turn you into a far-right terrorist
Really makes you think

Nier was about the mentality that drives people to extemist stances like terrorism. Nier 2 was about living with crippling existential crisis.

They're not particularly deep or anythinf but both games play out classic philosophical dilemmas in an interesting way.

He's a fucking nutcase who doesn't even know what the hell he's talking about 90% of the time

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He's an adept clinical psychologist, but not a philosopher by any means.

>Truly the most intelligent person of our time

name the people you think are better

He's shit at philosophy though. Like, really shit.

Not him but me.

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>Tell the truth
>Has his own special definition of truth

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there are many games
depends on what kind of philosophy you are looking for

Soma and The Talos Principle come to mind

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he literally doesn't. his understanding of philosophy, the history of western thought and especially postmodernism are irredeemably bad. I have mixed feelings on Foucault and strongly dislike Derrida but Peterson's description of their ideas is so laughably wrong he makes the pomos look reasonable by comparison

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Well, that's how it is with most media. You'll learn more about philosophy from actual philosophy books than from fiction. Art isn't there to teach us, it mostly riffs on philosophical ideas and fleshes them out in ways that make abstract thought emotionally understandable and resonant to human beings.

Jordan what is the meaning of this?

>Someone despises technology and capitalism, hence he is a commie
Just

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He said define a strawman.

He is self-help tier
Very motivational and compelling speaker though

What are your feelings on Baudrillard? Personally, he's probably at the top of my shit list right now, most of his work absolutely perplexes me with how far he into the "doomsday clock" territory the fucker takes his relatively interesting ideas.

>Molyneux
>Peterson
>philosophers
Kill yourself, /pol/nigger

he was a philologist
that has to do with the study of language

It's a warning about nihilism. Nietzsche was worried that people who thought about nihilism at length were in danger of falling prey to it, and themselves becoming nihilists. By merely recognizing nihilism, you're already one foot in the grave, so to speak.
You're a fucking idiot.

Haven't really paid attention to lobster man, but is he really that incompetent as everyone says?

it pretty much is a strawman because both people aren't philosophers

>Jordan Peterson
>Philosopher

Bet the author of that shitty strip hasn't read any Aristotle or Nietzsche, he's just quoting the most baseline stuff made by them.

Maybe you should decide for yourself and formulate your own opinions.

I took philosophy electives throughout uni because I enjoy it. But why are 99% of people interested in philosophy insufferable spergasauruses?