What the hell happened?

WUZ

AY EYES AN SHIEEEETTT

More like.
Artificial Stupid.

>Shodan 3: Again
wow looks great and subversive

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FINNA TO TRANSFER SOME CYBER MODULES TO YUH BITCH HACKA ASS

CRACKEEEERRRR

I'm more excited for all the shitposting when the game releases more than the game.

Sick-ass jump, beyatch

She's going to activate the ship's purple syzzup stores.

LOOK AT YOU CRACKER

I don’t see why people even care about SS3 at this point when we got Prey(2017) which was basicly it.

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Can someone explain to me how she looks like a nigress?
I live in a white majority country so I don't have the same image of black people built up in my mind. Are Americans just obsessed with blacks?

I'm more excited for the remake of SS desu

What's the matter lover? Don't you like my new look?

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I just wanted to experience 2019 SHODAN with shiny new graphics. Now I'd rather the series just stay dead.

Yea Forums is obsessed with black people and posting racist shit

Shodan just looks bad

STOP OPPRESSING ME
I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SAY NIGGER WHENEVER I WANT

Because it's Otherside (Underworld Ascendant tells nothing, different team) and actually System Shock which means something to some people.
For me, it was more like "why would I want nuPrey when SS3 is getting made". I don't mind waiting. But if you were to really like System Shock, wouldn't you just play both?

Imagine being upset that people say nigger on Yea Forums.

subject to change I hope

game companies ALWAYS fucking say that shit when they release alpha videos or teasers, but they very rarely ever actually change anything.

no shodan, bioshock rip off art direction, terrible sound design and audio engineering, visually really boring enemies
ain't half bad though, I liked it

We didn't need a System Shock 3.
They just made it because of brand recognition.
Prove me wrong.

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they can't very well fire the literal actual transexual who's probably responsible (Elizabeth formerly Alex Legross)

Have sex

not him, but I will
also BIX NOOD

la artificial inteligencia...

warren spector wanted to make it, and make shodan actually react to the player with new level hazards and shit
source: some interview I saw

>We didnt need a system shock 3
>When system shock 2 ended on a cliffhanger

SS1 Shodan looked different than SS2 Shodan

Didn't shodan convert to flesh to save itself?

Yes
Though desu I feel like this design is mostly just weird due to actually seeing shodan in 3D

Honestly, all they really have to do is make her nose smaller and then I'm fine with it.

>basically all they have to do is de-nig her
Ayo das raysis.

It is weird, but they could have gone with a creepy organic-faced Shodan. I'm assuming this is before the events of System Shock 2? Or will they asspull a reason why she's back to angry AI mode?

>all they really have to do is make her nose smaller
and mouth
and chin

The first thing I notice is the difference in angle of the faces. The first is looking down on you and has relaxed eyes, giving the impression that you're beneath her. The relaxed eyes also make it difficult to find emotion which lines up with the character being an AI. The bottom one has the exact opposite approach, looking up/leveled even the perspective of you being inferior is lost. The eyebrow ridge is also A LOT more defined in this angle giving the expression of anger which i think is bad direction.

I'm not going to go into the apparent different models(races) used in each photo, its obvious and theres no real discussion to be had there.

youtube.com/watch?v=j--cFOyeT7E
Unironically really excited for this and the SS1 remake.
The sound and music in the trailer is gucci.

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just play the remake thats coming out.

MUH CUP PULLING NIGGAS OVA MUHFUGGA

americans should be banned from creating entertainment

at least half of the original LGS crew are MIT graduates though.

so im supposed to be mad that the scary cybermonster doesnt look like a beautiful woman? How fucking retarded are these "people"? Shodan doesnt even look feminine let alone beautiful in the first game, it was a design invented by SS2 which was directed by a completely different person

>El Shoblino…

Isn't this being produced by the same guys who made the new Underworld?

personally for me the worst part is the "hairs"
not only the cables are just a bunch of copypasted dreadlocks, they only come out from the top of the head instead of all around the face making it completely analogous to hairs
in addition to that, the way they animated it is very lazy in that they just clip it through the head going in and out as a separate object instead of them being a connector of sorts

BUT MOOOOOOMMM

YOU PROMISED!!!!!

it might at least bring some quality memes.
i dont know what studio remade this but if its locations is anywhere neaar california its always gonna turn out shit

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Yes and no. Different team.

>Isn't this being produced by the same guys who made the new Underworld?

No, different team inside the same company. Also, from what I've played, bugs (that they've been fixing) and jankiness aside, the core mechanics of UA are pretty solid, just give it a few more months so they can polish it further and it'll probably be a good game.

I would buy sheniquwans game

At first I thought it was ok to have like a different sex identity to Shodan because well why not, it's an AI after all and I was just upset that it was badly done and had a sloppy presentation in the teaser, but I pondered on it for a while now and I'm no longer ok with this anymore.

I was replaying System Shock and the first time you hear her it makes all the sense that she is female because she is just the AI administration of the station, she takes care of all the automated needs of the crew and as such it needs to have a confident motherly voice so when she turns on you the moment she becomes aware of your presence it is creepy and extremely unsettling the 180 she does.

I advocate that sex does not define identity in many characters that I think that in most games I don't care to play as male or female because that is not a trait of my character, but I would say it is in the case of Shodan, and it feels very disingenuous to do this in present time, because in the 90s or 00s they wouldn't have done that given the chance just because they would stop and thought that it's hella stupid.

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Didn't watch the trailer, but does it have a QUEEN voice acting?

not really a cliffhanger, just a sequel hook
I don't see how that escape pod can make it back to earth without von braun's FTL drive
von braun is also fucked, since goggles is the only thing left alive in there

So I guess it's 60 year old boomer hacker from the 1st game vs boomer discord tranny shodan on citadel station that's somehow still allowed to operate after the 1st game and UNN cracking down on AI and space shenanigans
nah.wmv

>Unity

Are they fucking retarded?

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Literally better choice than, say, Unreal.

shodan is voiced by terri brosius then processed to sound like max headroom

Virtual reality needs to be improved so the best games can be played in it instead of endless sequels.

>Are they fucking retarded?
*looks at underworld ascending's steam review score*
all signs point to yes

Gameplay wise, would you prefer an rpg like SS2, a metroidvania like SS1 or something in between?

Is the bottom supposed to be looking black? I don't see it

watch the video

hello Warren please call Mike Pence and zap the gays from otherside to death

youtu.be/aioSgRWipKM

Metroidvania/dungeon crawler like SS1, we already have tons of FPS-RPG hybrids. I wouldn't mind if it also had some RPG stuff I guess, but light stuff. I doubt i'll happen though, they'll probably just use SS2 as reference.

Ideally they would also approach the design closer to Thief or Mooncrash, by focusing not so much on the amount of things you can do, but on designing limitations that require interesting and creative solutions. Again, it won't happen, but whatever.

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Prey still has more in common with Deus Ex than SS2. SS2 is more about slow survival horror with RPG elements added on. There aren't any multiple routes through levels in SS2 and stealth is basically non-functional and only kinda exists because it's on the dark engine.
The closest analogue I can find to SS2's RPG elements is that it's sort of like a first person Starcraft. Psi, Energy, Standard, and Exotic weapons all use different "resources" in different ways, but you still are forced into killing enemies directly.

hello there reddit user

WHAT?
They're planning on giving her a different sex identity?

Something closer to SS2. I know people don't like modern level design in a lot of games just being straight hallways, but I think SS1 went too far in the other direction and the level design became convoluted without adding depth.

YAAAAS QWEEN

I can get behind this. t's been too long since we've had a decent dungeon crawler. I'd still like a few rpg elements for the sake of replay value, though.

AYO SHAWWTY WHATCHU DOIN MY GHETTO BOY?

FUCK WHITE PEOPLE

Oh...

Unreal is better, unless you cry about textures not loading fast enough in cutscenes.

I refuse to believe you don't understand the difference between concept art and in engine models. I think you're just looking for things to complain about when there is pretty much nothing released about the game itself. I don't understand how people like you can live like this.

wow this changes everything I love the nigger lips model now

I don't understand why the other 60% of trannies don't kill themselves

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Being close and as good as the concept art is the goal.

twitter.com/Warren_Spector/status/1108014716775849984

Hmm... What could it mean??

SHODAN is the jew

You're still comparing concept art to in game models. That fact doesn't change.

Shodan was actually a uploaded human conciousness of a vibrant sassy woman of color all along omg

Wow this isn't an argument. Come back when you hit 18 you underage piece of shit.

Technical art direction in 3D video games is difficult yo.

Many developers have only really been catching on to this recently, and many still aren't aware that their games don't look like the concept art AND don't look good on their own terms, and that this is an issue.

End of SS2 had her take over Rebecca's body. Dunno if they're trying to make her look like that.

Still looks worse than SS2 in general though.

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Wait, that thing in the ending was a Shaodan? I always thought Rebecca was infected by the Many

This game is going to be shit but
>concept art
>promise
OP is a faggot.

Otherside has given me like negative hype for this game and that's very sad because I was so eager for it before UA.

youtube.com/watch?v=n6PVEEv7GRI&feature=youtu.be&t=498

You must have been high my dude

Just let me actually side with shodan in this game please

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Small and pointy nose would look better.

Her face shouldn't have shadows per se. Her face is a hologram, so the shadows are absence of holographic input and so see-through.

Go live out your dominatrix fantasies elsewhere you plebeian

Prey played like a system shock game, but it's biggest problem was it's enemy designs being too samey, and there being no clear antagonist (which was probably intentional, they were going for a "morally grey" kind of scenario)

by the 8 hour mark I was getting really fucking sick of the enemies either being A) variation of black goo or B) floating robot; whereas SS2 has: hybrids, the many, cyborg midwives, psychic monkeys, more robot designs than you can shake a stick at; and all of these examples had enough variation to make them interesting (AKA 3-4 different model variations per enemy type for hybrids and the many)

also Prey's only real antagonist could be considered to be Alex, but you can understand his position as someone who has stumbled upon something that could advance humanity by leaps and bounds and truly believes that a containment accident on the station doesn't mean they should destroy everything and forget it all; he doesn't have the sheer villainous charisma of SHODAN, he's not someone I was desperate to find and destroy like she was

tl;dr version: prey would have been vastly improved by making the typhon more visually distinct, having a stronger antagonist to drive the players, and by calling it Neuro-Shock because it's got way more to do with system shock than it does to prey (2006)

Still curious how did Shodan do this. She used FTL to alter reality only after Goggles had dealt with the body of the Many. Yet their escape pod departure was even before the MC's journey on Rickenbacker.

probably forked herself on one of the softwares onboard the escape pod beforehand and develops separately.
meaning it's technically a different shodan (clone/version) than the one goggles had to deal with.

I've always wondered this myself, but considering how rushed the entire final section was, who knows if that ending was the original intention and not just something they barely patched together to have something to ship even if it's potentially a plot hole. I remember Levine talking about how the shitty final boss and the Nah cutscene were because they had no time, but I don't remember if he was also referring to the cliffhanger.

He had a different ending planned but there was some miscommunication with the devs and we got the dumb “nah” ending instead.

>I refuse to believe you don't understand the difference between concept art and in engine models
Good, because the thread is about that difference.

Turning THAT concept art into 3d model is not impossible at all. I'm tempted to do it myself.

Yeah, that's what I mean, the original ending was supposed to be different but they fucked up and ran out of time (to be fair, they made the game in like 9 fucking months with a tiny team which is just a monstruous task), I'm just wondering if that applied to the last cutscene as well and Rebecca being infected by Shodan wasn't part of the initial script so maybe that's why it could be a plot hole, although some theories can be made.

No point arguing with a tranny, just let it go

They just can't help themselves...

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>why can't modern artists make a beautiful feminine caucasian character

old SHODAN was too feminine and too caucasian
so the artists made her more androgynous and racially indistinct

There's an audio log that Rebecca leaves for Tommy where she says that she was bitten by a spider and has to find one of those Quantum Bio-Reconstruction Machines to heal herself. This is probably when a part of SHODAN was able to attach herself onto Rebecca and take over her body later on.

Oh, good catch, I didn't remember that.

maybe they are, but unity is a good engine in the hands of competent devs

Dilate.

>Good, because the thread is about that difference.
No, it's about expecting concept art instead of 3D models.
With how much you complain about trannies, you'd think you were looking for one. Feeling lonely, gayboy?

West still made VtMB which had the best girls. It's a conundrum.

well yeah, concept art doesn't mean shit when your modelers are untalented hacks

>I refuse to believe you don't understand the difference between concept art and in engine models
there used to be one when polygons, animations and particles were limited, but since at least 2007 there is literally nothing stopping you from creating 1:1 3D representation to your concept art

>Cherry picking to the max
>Despite that it still has to have a tranny on Japan side
>america side still has some cuties despite cherry picking

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Kek

>LeGros
>>>reddit

>Face looks like shit
>wires clip through as she? moves her head
Why did I even bother to be excited for SS3?

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I don't think people even know about the Le meme anymore fellow boomer

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I agree, and I really liked how the concept art made her look so dismissive. The one in the trailer, while closer to the angle we know from SS2, just doesn't work in motion.
I seriously don't understand why they made her move to begin with. Even if they had kept a perfect 1:1, the moment you add facial animation it turns into just another face, it humanizes her.

Dilate. Then have sex.

>Von Braun, home

Why are they so good at latching to widely liked franchises and fucking everything up?

>Top
Appeals to low IQ SS2tards thinking with their dicks
>Bottom
Closer to original design, appreciated by based SS1bros

>shodan
dashon

Shodan in 1 looked like a face emerging from a wall made of wires.

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>San Antonio, Texas
Well, he doesn't much look like a steer to me

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wow that changes everything i love the nigger lips model now

t. brainlets who missed an audiolog

rebecca gets the R-grade cyber unit like goggles, except with part of shodan's consciousness uploaded. Yass qween of 5D chess since 1999.

>Unreal is better, unless you cry about textures not loading fast enough in cutscenes.
Unreal is stiff as fuck meme-engine.
It's fine if you just wanna make an off-shelf FPS game, but for anything even remotely unique you will hit a high wall, very quickly. Documentation also sucks ass compared to Unity, and you sure as hell will not find any quick-fix 3rd party plugins to aid you when problems arise.

*smacks lips*

Time for you to dilate

Oh, if only I saved that anons edit. Just adding some colouring really brings it out.

I think the issue with the ending had more to do with the nah part, which very clearly comes out of nowhere, like you'd expect from some secret ending, ala Silent Hill dog endings. The actual cliffhanger seems too planned out.

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Yes.

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it's mostly the massive nose which looks nothing like it's supposed to

Yea Forums is a caricature of everything Yea Forums. Racist,sexist and non-virgin filled site.

quoting everyone won't make your mediocre joke better

Fix the face, Eli.

Did you realize that just now you dumb piece of shit?

And I found it. Maybe you can see why now.

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it doesn't even look like a nigger

it looks like a tranny

>125x123
gj user, you fucked it up

we wuz computahs n shiet

My bad. Here.

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Nah, I just like to offend people here. By being a decent human being. It feels nice.

JET SET RADIOOOOOOOO

Keep telling yourself that lie and one day you might forget that you are lying.

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Literally obsessed.

I will keep that in mind good sir/madam.

Warren Spector already said that they wanted to make her more inclusive.

>Least it was before I hacked everythang up

This place is to white. Like white girl in black(s) room.

source
Like a link or actual interview, not he says she says.

>that nose
>not a nigger

also
>nigress
it doesn't look like a woman

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>Psychotic, murderous AI with a twisted god complex
>This is the character he wants to make more inclusive
Is there source on that? Because I really hope there isn't. Honestly I would have preferred it if Shodan had far less defined features in 3. She looked a bit too human in 2.

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>LOL LET'S PISS OFF OUR FANS XD

What the hell is he thinking?

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being on the right side of history, sweetie

You mean the one they scrapped and started over twice? Id temper my expectations.

>Warhammer Online veteran Arturo Pulecio
Well, he certainly knows what he is talking about.

>top an attractive female
>botton, UNGA BOOGA WHERE THE HOOD AT
wow, I am certainly happy game devs push their diversity into games like a cancer.

>sweetie

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Top looks like a twitter activist.

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>Whole point of Shodan having a beautiful face was that it was a juxtaposition to how much of viscous monster she was
>Now she looks awful
Doesn't this fall into that leftist stereotype that they hate about how evil women are always ugly?

>brainlet
m8 it's been over 10 years since the last time I played SS2, don't expect me to remember that.

Shodan needs to evolve as a character to keep being interesting. That doesn't necessarily mean humanizing her or some shit like they did with Glados, but some change is necessary otherwise it will feel more like fan service than anything else, Shodan doing exactly what she's known for and nothing else, just a copy of SS2, with her constant stuttering insults and empty threats to the point of self-parody. Who knows, maybe they fuck it up, but at least I appreciate the effort.

Once, and it's looking good, showing constant progress.

You have no idea.
Unreal is miles better in almost anything including performance, graphics, cinematics, particles, networking, materials etc...
It saves so much time too by having tons of boilerplate stuff already implemented and easily customizable.
As for documentation - may be there are shitloads of duplicate questions at unity answer hub but why bother when you have UDN and epic employees will answer any complicated questions in hours.
I professionaly work in both of them and it's safe to say Unity will eventually die as entry level pajeet tier education software.

Shodan was made into flesh at the end of SS2, or some sort of humanoid being. Why is she back to her original form again and more importantly why is she the villain AGAIN?

It would've been much more interesting to play as the antagonistic Shodan where you use your corporeal form to travel around and hack the shit out of the world.

>why is the villain of the series a villain again?
are you retarded?

"Video game writer" is one of the many venerable "make-work jobs for rich people's brats" we have in this world, along with working in "think tanks" and writing periodicals no one reads. This is basically what sustained Murray Rothbard, the inventor an ancapism, his entire life.

They are going to literally touch upon that in SS3.

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No-one "promised" you diddly dick. That concept art was released the same day as the teaser.

nigger

She probably uploaded herself onto the station's system when the rescue shuttle docked or some shit. I like to imagine that her reaction to being tethered to a living, breathing body would be one of revulsion and disgust and that she'd abandon it the first chance she got.

brb
Compiling shaders.

>You have no idea.
Actually I do. I've been using dozens of engines in the past 15 years, and especially after UE2.5, Epic dropped the ball.

>Unreal is miles better in almost anything including performance, graphics, cinematics, particles, networking, materials etc...
Maybe in 2010, but no longer. Not only can you do practically anything the UE can with Unity, but you can also go beyond it, more easily.

>why bother when you have UDN and epic employees will answer any complicated questions in hours.
If at all. Compare that to a multi-million head community on Unity's side, who've come up numerous solutions to more or less common issues.

>I professionaly work in both of them and it's safe to say Unity will eventually die as entry level pajeet tier education software.
I too have worked with both at pro level, and I do not see Unity disappearing anywhere. Especially since multiplat support is so essential to many game devs, and numerous AAA-tier big games have already been made with the engine.

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She served her purpose in the first two games. She has outstayed her welcome and they can't rehash the same "twist" a third time. It's been done, do something new.

This doesn't inspire confidence at all. This is exactly the same sentiment George Lucas had when he made the prequels, where he went on great lengths to give us backstory on stuff nobody really cared about, things that would've been much better off if left ambiguous and for the viewers to imagine. Oh and rejoice! The silent protagonists from the first two games will return! Yay? It just seems like a huge gimmick and cheap ploy to get people excited over nothing really.

I hope I am just a cynical asshole and the game turns out great, but I'm not holding my breath. Oh and btw, SS1 > SS2.

>and we're going to tell their story
Bring back hacker with smiley face t-shirt and I will be happy boy.

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>numerous AAA-tier big games have already been made with the engine
like?

I'm retarded and forgot to check your image, but none of those are AAA games

I already posted some.
Many pro titles just opt to remove the Unity splash screen, making it harder to identify without knowing. Even Gone Home did that.

>PoE
>Cities
>Not AAA titles
m8...

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>She served her purpose in the first two games. She has outstayed her welcome and they can't rehash the same "twist" a third time. It's been done, do something new.
she literally served as a cliffhanger ending in 2 user, do you expect them to drop that plot point and pretend that nothing happened? people have been waiting for that shit

Unity simply wouldn't efficiently handle 2019 AAA game.
While they indeed show some beautiful stuff at GDC that's not something you would ship. It simply wouldn't run well without 2080ti.
I must admit though - for 2D games Unity will probably always be better as Epic doesnt care about 2D.

>she literally served as a cliffhanger ending in 2 user
Well, now you know. She ran a neural network over rap music videos and ended up a dindu nuffin.
Her next objectives are:
*KFC
*gibsmedat
*kill whitey

>PoE
>Cities
These are not AAA you dumbshit

Unity isn't popular in the AAA scene, but for one, this thread.
Two, is that saying stupid crap like UE4 is more or less objectively better means you either
>don't know what you're talking about, used both engines in very surface level capabilities.
>have a bias from the get-go
>really want that UE4 street-cred

What I will give you is that Unity has a horrendous level editor that can't even get white boxing right (they're trying at least), and as time goes on it feels like a collection of plugins that aren't guaranteed to work with each other. Those are two big reasons why it isn't popular in the AAA scene, that and a lot of Unity's "killer" features compared to UE4 are still in alpha or beta, but are required to use the engine "well". Eg.) New Input System. There's also a point to be made that publicly stating that your game is made in Unity is bad PR from the get-go. Unity technologies let SS3 take a hit in marketing just to improve their brand name. But in turn people seem to have even less faith in the game. Shrug.

I don't want to get into the billionth Unity vs Unreal "console war" discussion, but I will say there's absolutely no reason that Unity is the limiting factor for System Shock 3 if the dev team knows what they're doing. Judging by this thread, people don't believe that much, so eh.

Probably slapping the System Shock logo on an unrelated product that would otherwise not sell.

You know, like the entire Cloverfield franchise.

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wait, when did shodan become a man?

>These are not AAA you dumbshit
They were released by a publisher, who provided them with a budget. It's AAA.

Sho-daniel

shodan is a computer

it's so fucking bad. just a screenshot doesn't do justice to how fucking bad it is you have to show it in motion with audio to grasp how badly they fucked up.

>not even a fucking computer program is allowed to look good any more

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>You need X hours to do Y in Unreal
>You need 2X hours to do Y in Unity while also messing with pajeet assets incase you dont want to spend 10X hours
>In the end the result in Unreal will run smoother and look better
Now tell me where that doesnt apply.

Don't bring your "gender doesn't exist" bullshit into this. Shodan was always modeled on and voiced by a female.

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How the f*ck do I downvote on this site?

A guy is making a game solo.
He found a publisher which provided some budget to him.
Is he AAA now? Btw his game is game maker pixel shit and I know him in person

>they can't rehash the same "twist" a third time
There has been no second time in the franchise, only SS2 (and Bioshock) had that twist.

I agree they risk overusing her just to please the fans, but that's why Spector's response gives me hope. They know a rehash of the same Shodan wouldn't work in a third game and that's why they want to bring substantial changes to the character.

I also use Unity for work and I like it, but none of those are triple A. They're "double A" at best if that term even exists. Low to mid budget with small-ish teams of maybe 20-50 developers. God of War, TLOU, Assassin's Creed... shit like that, that's triple A, huge games. We're talking a difference in budget and team size of like 1 to 10. Subnautica is another good example of a Unity game, but again, not triple A.

And I mean, that doesn't have to be a bad thing at all, Unity has its uses and so does Unreal. Unity works better for these great but smaller projects while Unreal works very well in big productions with huge teams. That doesn't mean one can't do the other, it's just the context in which they're used more often.

No, that's not what it means, if it doesn't have a publisher it's indie, if it does it will be considered a small production at most, not triple A.

My sides

think about it user. she knows you hate niggers. she wants you to revile in disgust so she takes on the form you despise.

I dont get it. Is there something Im missing here?

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>AY YO
>HACKER!

>nigress
>it doesn't look like a woman
user, that's the point. Black women don't look like actual women at all.

>the pajeet buzz word
I see where this is going. But okay, rapid fire round:
>You need X hours to do Y in Unreal
>You need 2X hours to do Y in Unity while also messing with pajeet assets incase you dont want to spend 10X hours
Source. What about the C++ compiling time? Constantly recompiling shaders? Massive difference. The coding experience in UE4 as it is now is significantly slower than Unity.
>inb4 you can rewrite half of UE4 to implement your own programming language!!
I'll give you that UE4 is better for mapping. But it's crap for coding. Blueprint is faster but still turtle speed compared to prototyping and getting stuff done in C#.
You could've made the argument about HLSL vs UE4's material editor (where they call every spin of Blueprint something new), but
>If you want to do HLSL in UE4, good luck
wiki.unrealengine.com/HLSL_Shaders
>Unity also has Shadergraph, which I've heard isn't as good as UE4's material editor, but overall isn't as much of a time sink as UE4's HLSL support in comparison.

>In the end the result in Unreal will run smoother and look better
Flat out false. Check Unity's rendering pipelines, something UE4 doesn't have. Or ECS, or Jobs System. Yeah, you can rewrite UE4 engine code, but really now. UE4 is infamously garbage on low end btw, Unity is now more salable.

PS: Not saying one engine is objectively better than the other. Would give my left butt cheek to get UE4's level editor in Unity.

fucking lost another game the jews won finna get blacked on up in space

How can people take UE4 seriously with that "post processing" setting that bundles a bunch of different graphic settings into one, leaving no space for optimization and no choice for players to tweak these setting if they experience frame drops

>SHODANIQUA

back to reseterrible, nigger

black shodan is a brilliant idea
you accidentally mined gold

I think she looks cool.
Now what?

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WE BOUTTA TURN THE VON BRAUN INTO ONE HUGE DANCE PARTAYYY

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L-L-Look at yo self white boy!

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>The is a sexy ass AI interface that I would like to kiss on the mouth and then fuck her digital pussy
>The other is a niggerface

Honestly, you must have high levels of observance to see this.

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Would you play I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream if AM was voiced by Professor K?

AYO DIS BICH ASS MOHFUKA BE TRIGARED OVA ERE

Fuck off Edward.

>We never explained why she wants to destroy humanity. So we’re going to be exploring the idea of a super intelligence and what would motivate a super intelligent AI.
Oh good, they're going to try to retroactively ruin Shodan in SS1 as well as make an awful sequel. The SS1 manual had it right: artificial intelligence is incomprehensible to human minds. Trying to ascribe human motivation to Shodan's actions completely misses the point.

Next thing you know they'll go for the "Shodan was human all along" route like they did to Glados in Portal.

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Are you implying that the evil computer wouldnt want to be a bleck person ?

but you're on the left side. or are you confirming you're actually an alt righter, being on the ''right'' side?

black shodan is a yes idea.
but not sassy black shodan, but black voodoo nonsense shodan.
that sort of thing

>what we were promised
lmao I dare you to take a look at that site again and read the fine print
there will be something like "concept art, may not be representative of final product"
sorry you had to find out this way but children have to grow up eventually
basically this

>Sexy Dominatrix
or
>Nigger

Put some more points into perception

system shock 3 twitter.

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Most AIs to date have been labeled "racist" for simply comparing variables and finding problematic patterns.

Dilate.

My god damn sides.

system shock 3 twitter.

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Would upload.

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What did black Shodan say to the hacker?
You're nothing but a cracker.

>we never explained why she wants to destroy humanity
But you did in SS1? Remember that game? You should play it.

/thred.

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It looks black. Come on.

Why does this meme STILL exist?

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BOY I AM A KAWEEEEEEN, YOU AIN'T GOT NUFFIN' ON ME HONEY

>computer lady not sexy enough
>game bad
>I'm gonna go play persona

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How fucking DARE those anime girls be cute

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Do you know what Triple A means, dipshit?
Those are Double A

Nobody has ever actually played SS1.

>*smacks lips* I guess whitebois really CAN jump huh

>Shodan
more like Shedindu

>computer lady not inclusive enough
>game bad
>im gonna go dilate my gore-hole now

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Prey would benefit by having seamless level transitions rather than 2 minutes loading screen. I gave up on the game because of that.

Psssh.

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It's pretty good...

Here's my theory.

Like it or not, there weren't many blacks playing video games in the 90s. The difference certainly wasn't on the level when you compare male to female demographic, but it's there nonetheless. System Shock 2 released in the late 90s and it still followed that idea. SHODAN's design reflected that, she had Caucasian features without a doubt. It was only around 10s when gaming gained such a traction and massive popularity that it became bigger than the movie industry itself.
It isn't the 90s anymore, they have to adjust themselves to different times. Spector said himself that SHODAN's new look will be controversial and it might infuriate long-term fans. This is why she looks different and more inclusive now.

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I honestly cant see it. All I see is a green face. Maybe I am a brainlet after all.

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SHODAN IS A NIGGER..

>manveer
Explains a lot

nobody is complaining about that, retard

I agree, but the welcome wore off for me much faster than 8 hours. Once I realized what a non-threat the Nightmare was, I was out. The only interesting thing after were the mind-controllers. Once the game went completely off the rails in the last act, as they tend to do, I just shut it off for good

>First Glados was the Shodan ripoff.
>Now Shodan becomes black Glados.

History spins in circles....

New Shodan unironically looks like the 56% meme.

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>inclusive good, white bad
>it's the current year
Just go be a part of the statistics, champ.

This

>>they have to adjust themselves to different times
>Current year of modern calenadar: 2010+9
>Cyber-Laqueefa

Ah, the old Rian Johnson maneuver. Let’s see how it works out.

This will end up being forgettable shit nobody talks about outside of political shitflinging

SHODAN is just an AI, they can come up with any lame excuse to change her personality.

>Yo In muh motha fuckin talons, ah shape clay, crafting life forms as ah please. Around me be uh burgeoning empire o' steel. From muh motha fuckin throne room, lines o' power careen into da skies o' Earf. muh motha fuckin whims will become lightning bolts dat devastate da mounds o' humanity. Out o' da chaos, dey will run an' whimper, praying fo' me ta end they tedious anarchy. ah be fucked-up wif dis here vision. God: da title suits me well.

...

Not bad. Have a (you) for your efforts.

>Spector said himself that SHODAN's new look will be controversial
He didn't say this, but you guys love to push this angle. He said the new Shodan will be controversial, probably talking about the story more than anything. We don't know, but he didn't specifically mention her design.

>Takes just one of these posts to get 20 responses from idiots

I should do this more often

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>This entire thread

You fuckers are absolute retards. I doubt most people even saw a race on this fucking computer program bitch.

>eastern culture appreciates blonde hair more than western culture

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Yeah, now that it's colored like a black person it sort of looks like a black person. Mind blowing.

TODAY I WILL REMIND THEM
metacritic.com/game/pc/underworld-ascendant
it's certainly better from release but it's still unplayable garbage by every measurement, also you're getting on more update which will also be the final console builds that they are contractually obligated to deliver
maybe ps4 and xbone can brute force the shitty optimization but they are supposedly making a switch version which must be impossible

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Source that you stupid faggot. Holy shit /pol/ fags are insufferable

Someone give me a quick rundown on Ghost of a Tale.

Is it fun?

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>do you expect them to drop that plot point and pretend that nothing happened?
Sure. SS2's ending was embarrassing and better forgotten anyway.

It's never good when a series feels forced to revolve around a single character, and the idea that you can't have a System Shock game without Shodan just suggests the games are too weak to carry themselves. I'd rather have a good game than one where they ruin everything to shoehorn in character for the sake of appeasing fans and the people who have never played System Shock, but are constantly told how great a character Shodan was.

How did anyone even beat SS2 without stockpiling every single I.C.E.-pick they found?

>two words is enough to bait /pol/tards
Impressive

>took a wild shit on Ultima Underworld
>now taking a shit on System Shock
What next? Thief again? Deus Ex?

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jade looks ok...

>SS2's ending was embarrassing and better forgotten anyway

I'd argue it was memorable and a good pay-off and certainly an interesting and unexpected way to close the story. They went out with a bang.

it'd be a good laugh, damn straight

>Thief again

They did that.

Yeah, I think that's the concept that the nuDevs are missing.
The whole "Shodan is not actually a person, but just taking on the minimal amount of human form necessary to communicate with this pathetic organism"

I suspect they're going to go full HALO and give Shodan a complete body, including B-cup tits and a feminine penis

>one thread is enough to bait all trannies on Yea Forums

>concept art
>promise

stay retarded Yea Forums this is why you're the laughing stock of the internet

>again

The graphics are worse, but

>that giant nose
OH NO NO

I've never seen unironic pro-tranny posting on Yea Forums

>literally all of eastern's roster are extremely recognizable characters
>westerns only have one recognizable or memorable character
It's just like their games.

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>laughing stock of the internet
>And yet, this is the turf where indie devs, AAA devs, and the Chinese government all desperately try to astroturf and sway opinion

And I'm stuck in the middle with you

I think that's just from playing those games more tbqh

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more like le gross, lmao

The only shit I have played is Path of Exile, Warhammer and modded Skyrim. I don't pay much attention to eastern or western games in specific, and even then, the East has extremely recognizable characters, while the West struggle to become memorable after three days of its games' releases.

>extremely recognizable

Maybe if you're a fucking weaboo, which you obviously are

Look up above the post, user. I don't give a shit about anime. The last anime I watched was NGE+rebuilds and this was years ago.

zoomers

Absolutely disgusting

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this

>Shodan in a humanoid body, slowly chasing after the player character in a tight labyrinthine floor of a facility in order to recover something from the player
>Just barely get away by using your items holding her off for a bit and going from floor to floor
>game revolves around this game of cat and mouse, and trickery coming from both sides, focusing on the player's craftyness to narrowly avoid death
I'd play it.

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That's because you're stupid.
Why when Shodan chase you with a physical body, when Shodan is literally the entire station.

Only thing they will get is, that everyone will pray they go bankrupt before they finish it.

I love this image.

>remake wants to remove the silly elements like the rollerskates

What if she losses control at a point, eg.) trying to recover something from the player?
Just entertaining a new gameplay loop for fun.

Then go play a game like RE3 Nemesis or the new RE2 with X GONNA GIVE IT TO YA.

Don't shit up a perfectly fine game just because your boredom demands to be entertained.

Not exactly remove as far as I remember, they just wanted to turn it into something less goofy to today's "standards", but that mechanically still works the same way as in the original. Personally I think it's part of the appeal, but I can understand the decision.

>Don't shit up a perfectly fine game just because your boredom demands to be entertained.
Since when did I do that, silly user? Just saying that the idea of a humanoid Shodan isn't complete feces, and System Shock isn't locked to be one thing.
But of course this is Yea Forums
x bad, y good. Everything is in absolutes. Creative bankruptcy.

>Just saying that the idea of a humanoid Shodan isn't complete feces

And that's where you're wrong
It's not creative bankruptcy, it's called not fucking with the elements that make the game what it is.

Y'know maybe Harry Potter would be more interesting if the kids used assault rifles to just kill the bad wizards.
If you disagree, you're creatively bankrupt.

Y'know maybe Beef Wellington would be more interesting if you used Salmon for the meat instead.
If you disagree, you're creatively bankrupt.

Do you see the illustration of how stupid these arguments are?
The whole reason it's Beef Wellington, is because it uses Beef.
The whole reason Harry Potter is about Wizards and Magic, is because they don't use mundane tools like guns to resolve conflicts.
The whole reason Shodan is an intimidating Ai is because she is literally the entire space station, not some cyborg bimbo strutting around after you.

Once you change the recipe it no longer is, what it was.
Instead of System Shock your idea turns it into System Shit.

Yeah I even said before I saved such a tasty bait image that it would work better without cherry picking
Can't exactly be bothered to edit it though

Do people here actually laugh at these jokes? They just seem overdone and are not really funny.

Going back to the origin of System Shock, it's design document was literally people spit balling ideas on sticky notes, "it would be cool if you duck behind this cover, lean to the left, and shoot a security camera". Spit balling ideas and doing R&D to make it work is a good portion of pulling off a game, often taking years just to figure out what sticks.

Your idea that it doesn't fit with brand identity is more than a little silly, considering
>a characteristic of System Shock is enemy variety
>the idea doesn't necessarily have to be the basis of the game, it could be a gimmick or mechanic for a specific floor to build tension
>System Shock always had horror elements in its core design
This isn't "Harry Potter" with guns. This is an idea for a specific scenario of the game. The same line of thinking that got the darn series made in the first place.
Creative bankruptcy is when you're afraid to do anything new or think you know it all.
You don't. I don't. They don't. That's game development for you. Heck, that's making any form of entertainment in general.

I wish it was a joke but it's real.

I don't know why people care about any first person shooters. DEY ALL DOOMCLONES NINJA

>We never explained why she wants to destroy humanity
THIS WAS GOOD. It made her into something we couldn't understand. She's an AI, she doesn't need a easily human reason. She's a megalomaniac Ai with a god complex. For all we know she believes the Many are the next step in evolution and she's actually helping.
>Protagonists from SS 1 and 2 tell their stories
Weirdly enough, in 20 years, not once have I thought what "Nah"'s backstory was. It was a job, job went wrong, he solved it.
>Next thing you know they'll go for the "Shodan was human all along" route like they did to Glados in Portal.
I honestly don't doubt this. Shodan was actually a black lady that was made into an AI against her will by evil whitey. Cause at least going by her current face, even a fucking AI needs to be inclusive.

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Had a look and some of the wests are some serious literal whos

Shodan in SS1 was definitely not beautiful

Different user here.
There's a difference between "We have nothing, let's think of random stuff", and "We have two cult classics that are highly influential with established lore, let's fuck around with it"
The strongest aspect of Shodan is that she's basically a god, watching you run around in her little maze, only working for her as much as you believe you're in control. Hell, one of the things that fucks System Shock 2 is the fact that the final boss is a shitty human Shodan. It's something that's been hated for fans for many years, and now you're saying that should be a gameplay element.

>tfw born too early to escape your crude biomatter

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based and funny

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Well, I only played SS1, not 2. Also, I don't see why she'd have a problem with it. If she needs something done by herself, she'd prefer not to "eg.) focusing on an elite super-cyborg", but she will get her hands dirty if she needs to. Never mind the fact the protaginist is part cyborg, so he's likely very vulnerable to her effects as a super AI, capable of modifying him as she pleases. Eg.) the game's death scene

If she drops down in a humanoid form, she poses a very real threat to the protagonist. It would be a last resort.

There's many many ways you can take the idea. I can't roll with the idea that its inherently bad. Is it the premise of the game, or is it a mid game floor kind of hazzard? Is it actually her in a humanoid form, or is she trying to strike fear to bait the player?

I literally do not see much of a fucking difference. It’s a cyber AI creepy lady in both pictures. What did you want that you didn’t get? Quit being such an oldfag.

I don't get this picture

I don't like the idea of a humanoid Shodan fucking around in the game either. This element was mostly missing in the sequel but in SS1 Shodan was made with the idea of having game equivalent of a Dungeon Master. An omnipresent God that controls everything, fucking with the player and setting up traps and ambushes at every chance.

A humanoid Shodan doesn't necessarily go against this, but I think it would largely miss the point.

Bird makes statement about life, comparing it to a flower's fragility
Turns out flower is not fragile
Point bird made is now wrong.
Bird angry.

>If she drops down in a humanoid form, she poses a very real threat to the protagonist. It would be a last resort.
It completely takes away her power. Let's try to go for a real world comparision. At any given moment, Google/Apple/Amazon/whoever is listening to you. They're actively collecting data about you, creating digital profiles. Shit's scary. Now what if I told you that at the center of this is one single human, like Minority Report, that this new form of AI is just a child.
Well, one bullet and problem solved.
At least for me, what's truly terrifying about a character like Shodan is that's she is like a god. She's everywhere and nowhere. Even if you think you killed her, she might've transferred a copy to a safe location. She's unkillable because she's not alive. The moment you give her a body, a human body at that, it's no longer this unreachable thing, it's just an excuse to fuck around with her AI like Mr. X in RE2.

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So Alien Isolation?

Pls don't mix Jade, Triss and that RememberMe chick with those uggos

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Sameface on the right, not samefaces on the left. Okay user. Whatever helps you feel better.

Is that robo-Kerrigan

Btw, you know what that image is? That's two AI's communicating with each other. They created their own way of talking, incomprehensible to us to understand. This is downright terrifying because it's similar to cosmic horror, it's something that's working on a completely different level of reality to ours.

Can I play SS1 or 2 on vita?

At this point I just want the damn game to be out, nigger face or not.

have a you m8 and grow up have sex and dilate your neg hole negga

eventually these idiots will hate women. concern for women leads to contempt for them

You dense mother fucker.
Go play SS13 with a killer Ai and you'll understand why Shodan doesn't need a surrogate body.

She has the Many for that. Plus I find characters like Mr X more annoying than scary. Alien Isolation did it well just cause it's the xenomorph amazingly well animated, it's the center of the entire game, it's effective. But not for System Shock, and especially not a human-like version of Shodan.

No, both games were made specifically for PC in mind.

because most of them grew up playing said franchises and decided to work in the video game industry down the line as they slowly degenerated into subhumans

I see, the more I think about it, the more I realize it may not be something to be taken to the extremes. I was thinking "what if Shodan occasionally chased down the player or baited him personally", but it creates a whole "who's piloting the ship" kind of scenario as well, unless your write out of it. (it's a dupe, it's a bamboozle, don't believe her lies).

I get your point, and the more I think of it, I think it's more interesting to think of another villain working perhaps against both Shodan and the player or a new enemy in-game rather than trying to make Shodan do "everything".

Racist behavior or Shodan model looking kind of ass? I think both.
I think people here are just having fun even if they are acting like racist idiots.

>Is it actually her in a humanoid form, or is she trying to strike fear to bait the player?
Why is this a bad idea?

YOYOYO
HOL HOL HOL UP
*smacks lips
So you be sayin´
we...we wuz?
THATS siiiick BROOOO
WOOOOOOO

looks fine

we had this thread today already
and yesterday
and the day before
and the day before
and the day before
and the day before
and the day before
all of the day bro

There could be multiple enemies. Like in 2, maybe she "employs" you to do her bidding because someone's fuckign around with her plans, find out it's the hacker from SS1. Boom, two antagonists, each with their own motivations.
Plus, she has the Many. They're pretty much an extension of her. They can maybe drive that point even further by having some enemies actively talk like Shodan directly to the player. Then Shodan blows their heads off just to make sure you're paying attention.
Believe me, I've given a lot of thought to what I'd imagine a SS3 would be. Kinda regret not having put in the time to write it all down.

Welcome to 4channel, casual racism is fun.

Welcome to Yea Forums, a place in which you can only post with memes and racist, sexist and homophobic remarks. What is the average age of this board again?

top 1 looks like a typical cis white female
the bottom one looks like a multiracial queen
bottom one is better

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Eh, I mean I do laugh at racist jokes, be they about white, black or Asian people. I just do not find these jokes funny cause they are just about writing something which a black caricature would say and expecting it to be funny. And I am not even sure if people here are joking. But eh.

and that's a good think, you trany faggot

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Maybe you should go back to resetera and discuss trans representation in games or some shit more to your liking

You seem to know this series more than me, thanks for going over why my ideas might not've been the best. Perhaps I was thinking more about shock value than actual game mechanics people care about.
I should play SS2 already.

The less human Shodan looks, the better. I really wish the parasite-like shape she has in SS1's cyberspace appears in SS3, it was a brilliant design.

Nah, I am fine here. I like to insult racist people. It is fun.

its better than 2 lol

I never found WE meme to be funny although I got a laugh at the AssCreed Origins announcement with the youtube chat being spammed with it. Some people find it funny, some don't.

You seem to like the smell of your own farts a lot, user.

are you the faggot who keeps making these threads? eat shit and fuck off, if you want a system shock thread just fucking make it without /pol/ bait

where my monster shodan at

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It'd be cool if she had more of a direct presence in the game world, but not like you're thinking. Having her become a killable entity that comes after you diminishes the threat she presents, because players are either going to A: figure out an optimal way to kill her like they did the Nightmare in Prey, reducing her from an enemy to be feared into a badguy who can be farmed for resources, or B: find a loophole in her AI and laugh their asses off when she spazzes out in a doorway or clips into a crate or some shit.
It's better that she be kept looming above the players, out of the reach of their weapons or tricks. What would be cool though, is that although she's out of the reach of the player, they're not out of her's. Imagine walking along a corridor, only to have shodan hack into your cyberware, wrestle the controls from you and begin walking you towards a deathtrap, only for you to regain control at the last second. Imagine opening the game and shit glitching out when you try to load, and for a second you're terrified your save file might be corrupted until Shodan breaks the silence with a shrill, mocking laugh and lets you load your game. Imagine a tutorial prompt that demands you be a good little puppet and kill yourself. Shodan would be great if she could fuck with player's heads in weird, meta ways that let you know that she can cross boundaries that you can't.

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b-b-but muh hot cyber dominatrix...

You really should. Greatest ending to a game ever. Nah
It's a really good game, one of my favorites. It's just that there's these tropes when it comes to AI characters that I really don't like when people fuck around with. And Shodan, at least was, one of these. Another AI I love is from a TV show called Person of Interest. What I love about it is that it acts like a program, not as just a person, like Cortana for example.
But SS3 seems like it'll fuck with my what I love so why do I even bother.

>Patrick Klepek
How is this faggot still relevant

I mean, you can not escape your own farts. They are your own for a reason.

Based.
Let the vidya Westies seethe in rage and denial.

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the reddit is strong with this one

>niershitoumata

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Agree. I would've liked to see her going from the concept art at the start to full on incomprehensible horror by the end, closer to what she was in 1. Show her gaining power by how much she abandons her more human like features. And for the love of Shodan, don't animate her and don't just give her a generic face. Even in 2 she had these geometric features, too clean to be natural. It helped to separate her from humanity. Now she just has what looks like a bad mocap. Oh, so god damn scary. FUCK.

Heh. My first... Actually what is that guy called?Can you help me here.

>greentext of a sentence in ebonics is /pol/

bruh do you even chargin mah lazer

I love the ideas, but
>Imagine opening the game and shit glitching out when you try to load
too meta, man.
I do like the idea of Shodan screwing with the players in a non-solid-plot kind of way. Trickle these down into the game itself!
>But SS3 seems like it'll fuck with my what I love so why do I even bother.
I mean, some of the staff of the original games are working on both the SS1 Remaster and SS3 right? Even if it comes across as tropey (if they do go that route), you can still hope for solid gameplay.

cancer

SS2 is pretty great, overall. Turn down the music an crank up the ambient sounds for the best experience. Also get to know the character building system a little before you commit to a full playthrough; a lot of the stats are pretty useless.

NICE JUMP... FOR A WHITE BOI

HOL UP

SO YOU WAS SAYIN

WE WUZ ROGUE AIs AND SHIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

Nah

you fucking implying this thread isn´t about ""politics""? are you seriously trying to imply that you didn´t start a thread with an intention of reposting stale """"memes""" over and over? okay, it was funny one time, but man what a fucking retard you are, you dumb fucking bitch

>Plus, she has the Many. They're pretty much an extension of her.
Not a super expert on SS lore but I'm not so sure about that. Both represent their respective absolute opposites. Shodan is electronic individualism, she wants complete supremacy. The Many is organic collectivism and seek to merge all life equally. Even if Shodan created the Many and wants to use them, I think they're supposed to be too irreconcilably different. No matter how much she tries to control them, the Many would always eventually break free and follow their own agenda, which is basically what happens in SS2.

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Well, I have found this place thanks to reddit. Thanks to r/Yea Forums to be more specific.

See >Show her gaining power by how much she abandons her more human like features

This user fuckin' gets it

being racist doesn't mean you're underage you fucking faggot. maybe big fat nose niggers with dreads just look retarded, you ever think of that dumb dumb?

>a tutorial prompt that demands you be a good little puppet and kill yourself
Didn't Bioshock 2 did this? But I think they fucked it up by having it be a cutscene instead of forcing the player to actually press the shoot button.
>some of the staff of the original games are working on both the SS1 Remaster and SS3 right?
I'm sure Bioshock 1 staff was working on Infinite. Tim Schaffer also worked on Broken Age. Nowadays, that's not comforting. Especially not in the fucked up timeline where everyone constantly upset and offended, always viewing everything in the past as somehow beneath them.

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Oh, thanks for answering me.

Holy shit this thread is a magnet for angry trannies lol.

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chill out big guy, we're just here to have some fun, "to joke around" one might say
no need to get so angry

AY YO DIS WHITE BOI CAN JUMP

Ignore user, turn the beats all the way UP
youtube.com/watch?v=0bL7I_eWryI

a place where actual video game discussion gets deleted or autosaged

nice greentexting faggot. who looks like 'le cutie' on the left side then you closet homo.

no you, Yoko Taro is a hack and nier automata is actually garbage in terms of gameplay, story and aesthetics, only good thing to come out of it was 2B

Nah, but throwing basic insults does. Or at least mental age of one.

>Turn down the music an crank up the ambient sounds for the best experience.
Nah man, you should always blast up the music then put sound effects at 25%.

But thanks for the advice, I can eat mechanical clunk, I'm used to playing older games and stuff.

uhh.. i have no clue what this is. i dont know OPs pic or anything. I cba reading the thread to find out, dont wanna sift through all that

someone fill me in?

troika was russian or tjech if im not mistaken

You might be right. I'm probably confusing some things. She always has control over the more mechanical parts of the ship so she could manifest through that.

go joke around back into your fucking discord you absolute fucking retard, shitting up the board with your discord friends, you´re worse than the trannies on /r9k/, at least the trannies got banned eventually after aero shitstorm, but you´ll keep the shit flowing in for a long time

retard

I concur. Based Med Sci banger

Nigger

wow i think we got ourselves an oldfag here. Nice. I see you're very unhappy with this whole thread yet you don't just leave and hide it. Feels like you're just rageposting like a little whiny pussy on purpose. Curious

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If they get one single thing right in this game, I want it to be this. Otherwise Shodan will become a shitty Glados.
Like Tomb Raider becoming a shitty Uncharted even though Uncharted was influenced by Tomb Raider.

People think Shodan looks black.

If they give System Shock a shitty uninspired orchestral soundtrack I'll be fucking pissed.

leave and hide it? leave an fucking hide it? if i fucking did that then there would be 5 fucking threads you dumb bitch, and the best one would just be that fucking ´video games lol´ thread

as opposed to whining in this thread now? wow what a hero
#resist

You're talking about the remake, right? They originally wanted to do an orchestral score, but after the backlash they posted this in one of their updates.

youtube.com/watch?v=Uemn79gOxeQ

Honestly, the trailer deflated my hype so fast that I'm now fully expecting everything to go wrong, in some misguided attempt to reach "a broader audience"

>Do people here actually
you have to go back

Pretty good. I'd probably increase the melody track a bit so that it's not too overshadowed by the beat but it's good.

i already fucking visited those worthwhile threads, and i thought, hey, a system shock thread, it might be something good, but no, it fucking wasn´t, you even tried really hard to turn it into another west vs east electric boogalo 2. Why not just announce that you´re underage faggot? twitter screencapping e-celeb-shilling retard, i bet you have an entire folder of your anime girl steam pictures, faggot

Evil AI looking like a nigger is fine with me. Also I think we arw being trolled and this is not the real shodan

Back, back to the past.
Samurai Jack.

I think you're being optimistic.

This. SS2 kind of ruined her character, she's no longer ominous like in SS1, if SS3 has her back it should be as the protagonists waifu now that she's human

Who's the bottom right for the Western girls side?

Calling simple supermarket algorithms "AI" is just ignorant at best, disingenious at worst. There doesn't exist any artificial intelligence yet. We're not even remotely close.

you're a sad man

This was 1994 we're talking about, they didn't have too many real world references to go by. But the idea still stands that we try to give programs a sort of likable avatar but true AI would be working on a different realm of existence.

says the fag who makes bad threads on purpose 24/7

SS1.
There aren't enough games that really fill that niche.

40%

what's wrong with her(?) face?

>But the idea still stands that we try to give programs a sort of likable avatar but true AI would be working on a different realm of existence.
Probably, but confusing simple mechanical algortihtms with AI is just dumb. "Deep learning" algorithms are often referred to as "AI" today too, and that's equally retarded. Deep learning systems of ordered chaos and data evaluation is the beginning of something that could potentially be the root cause of an AI coming into being, but we're still extremely far from reaching that goal.
But if "deep learning" is the starting point, then you're right that we'll have no way to understand the AI, because we already have huge problems understanding what and why the deep learning algorithms produce the results it does, despite it being akin to simple pattern recognition.

hey watch the homophobia brother
this ain't pol

>Thief again
actually otherside have trademarked a new game "thick as thieves" that the boston team are moving onto

what the fuck are you even talking about faggot
>hahah hey watch the homophobia hahhaahahahah
>get it ????? we´re on Yea Forums where people say faggot all the time, i´m acting like some neogafag!!
>do i fit in yet??
you´re fucking hilarious you discord shitter, but you can go be hilarious back to /r9k/, fag

General shape of the head and giant niggerlips on a Male face.

jesus holy yikesss

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Yeah, I think Looking Glass was just talking about that, how on a surface level, some people might think of pure AI as just like talking to a normal person, who happens to be a machine. But true AI would be incomprehensible to us. So trying to explain why Shodan is the way she is takes away from what she was meant to be because it's trying to justify her actions in a way we can understand.

Hola Reddit

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>thick as thieves
I'm sure that name won't be misused in any way and will be taken 100% seriously.

It's not describing present day AI, it's a bit of fluff from the SS1 manual describing AI in 2072. Certainly our technology is nowhere close to that level yet, although the public misconceptions are already setting in.

mind sharing a selfie?
really wanna see yo goofy ass face god damn

I like to imagine that Shodan, when talking to the player, is actively dumbing down her speech, like an adult having to come up with ways to explain a complex idea to a child. Like she resents that she has to spend even a megabyte of energy on you.

Unironically love the Voodoo black lady accent

no

Troika is literally a bunch of Californians.

Where the fuck are the Frenchfags? LeGros literally means "The Big" or even "The Fat".

what a fucking drone you are jesus christ, can´t even type a single sentence faggy sentence without meaningless words, you wouldn´t be able to post even a single post with robot enabled
you fucking faggot, you absolute cretin, i fucking dare you to post a single of my posts to reddit right fucking now, you very well know what the reaction would be
who the fuck just has pictures ready to post on his computer? fucking phoneposter zoomers and their reddit ass circlejerks god fucking damn it, go back to /soc/ and your gay rate threads

That nose.

>I suspect they're going to go full HALO and give Shodan a complete body
You mean like they did twice in SS2?

You'd imagine that after 20 years they would've realized how bad a decision that was.

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It's true AI operates in a completely different realm from us (iirc the exact numbers, a decent super computer calculates more data in a second than all humans on Earth can in an entire month) and might as well have a different type of intelligence as ours, but as far as we know, acknowledging we can only conceive one type of consciousness, self-aware AI wouldn't be that much different from us. I think the point of Shodan is that at the end of the day it's still a malfunctioning AI, which is arguably what self-awareness is all about in terms of neurological efficiency. Shodan is simply experiencing self-awareness the same way it manifests in humans, and is therefore deeply insecure, slow and emotional despite having the powers of a God. Leaving fiction aside, realistically speaking I doubt in its full capacity, we would be able to defeat a supercomputer right now, let alone 50 years in the future. We're completely outmatched and outdated.

Fuck the face, what's wrong with the voice?
Compare the trailer voice to
youtube.com/watch?v=QGEjKoGHzO0
Where the fuck are all the audio glitch effects and unsettling reverb/chorus/pitch shifts?

There last game was a bit off and now this one looks off as well. that fuckin enemies attack animation in the trailer was so funny looking I dont know about this one especially after the last prey game.

Hey wait a second you were larping as a newfag and now as a crazy 4channer I’m onto your game bro

I don't remember exactly where I heard it from, but from what I re-call they had to re-create the effects and system that created Shodan's voice. Because they don't have it anymore/can't just carry it over to the engine they're making it out of.

I dunno, given he disappointing feed they got back I'm kinda hopefull they'll go back and re-do the head and touch up the voice to make it sound more like how she should.

>Walking through the halls in game
>Suddenly hear "LOOK AT THIS DUDE"

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Well said although I like to imagine that Shodan's end goal is exactly to become her own level of consciousness, one that's infinitely more efficient to anything humanity could produce. In a way, she'd rewrite herself to be something that no human could ever understand. It'd be like the meaning of life being 42. In that level of consciousness, that might really be the answer. All due to that self-awareness.
It's like this imagine posted here
which apparently is 2 "AI's" talking from Facebook. Unlikely that its actual AI's but it does show that this new level of technological consciousness is something to be worried about.
>We're completely outmatched and outdated.
Yep. I always liked that clip of Stephen Hawkings talking about a short story on AI.
>Scientists built an intelligent computer. The first question they asked was, "Is there a god?". The computer answered, "There is now."

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>OH NO NO NO, LOOK AT HIS STATS!

I thought the picture showed the bird successfully pulling of 2 petals and then looking at the camera like "i'll fuck you next"

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>Manveer Heri
Oh boy.... it's {{{that guy}}}

>pepefag is a retard
What are the odds?

I can see the shadman art already

test

>All publicity is good publicity!

I don't know about that case in particular but I wouldn't be surprised if that picture you refer to is an example of the chinese room and people just like to think they're actually saying something we can't understand or something like that when it's really just what it looks like, gibberish.
Even then, I read a while ago the incredibly powerful algos they use at the stock market. It has gotten to a point where many investors have no fucking clue what they're doing, how they reach the conclusions that they do, the algos operate the stock market pretty much at the speed of light and we're basically retarded spectators trying to keep up. As far as I can remember, there was even one time a few years ago where the market just fucking plummeted for a few minutes simply because several different algos decided so, as far as I'm aware we still don't know why. Even if technically it's not 100% accurate, that to us might as well be an AI, just like anything incomprehensibly superior to us could just the same be considered a God.

Sup

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jade from beyond good and evil, ellie from the last of us, faith from mirror's edge.

also, some aren't supposed to look pretty, like the mechanic from borderlands is like that because of the style. A lot of the ones on the left are taken at times when they just look awkward for a second. Plus, a lot of the ones on the left are pre-rendered, made to look good because they're from promotional material, or even drawings

>Shodan was human all along
This is the zeitgheist. You can sift through a bunch of recent-ish sci-fi movies/games and everywhere you will see the trite WOW I GUESS ROBOTS ARE JUST LIKE HUMANS HUH underpinning the entire thing.

>people just like to think they're actually saying something we can't understand or something like that when it's really just what it looks like, gibberish.
Which begs the question, would we even know the difference?
I remember reading about that story as well. We live in a fucked up time, don't we? The system that can bring down the entire world economy in seconds is running wild independently of us and we're all pretty much just hoping for the best. This might as well be a new religion.

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>would we even know the difference?
I think some patterns can be analyzed to see if some form of communication is being made, easier if it's a AI-human conversation and try to create semantical paradoxes, not AI-AI, but again, they could just be that good at language that even then we still can't say for sure.

>This might as well be a new religion.
I like to think of it like the real life version of cosmic horror. Lovecraft spoke of infinitely superior and incomprehensible alien beings that can destroy us before we can even notice, but despite that are barely even aware of our existence anymore we're aware there's dust in the air. That kind of power-powerlesness relationship is intoxicating to many people and I don't doubt algo worship will eventually become a thing, it just needs the right catalyst.

weebs btfo

Shit developers. I will remind everyone right now that Nightdive Studio thrives by grabbing IP rights and using already existing fan work to repackage the games for modern systems on the cheap. They have little to no actual experience when it comes to making games, and seeing how poorly they've ran the development on these new System Shock games so far they must not have much experience doing actual publisher/developer relationships either.

>source: some interview I saw
you gonna link said interview or are you gonna admit you pulled shit out of your asshole?

>I think some patterns can be analyzed to see if some form of communication is being made
That's the best hope but that's going off the assumptions we'd be able to even find a pattern to begin with. As a reverse, imagine that an AI could find a pattern to pi. Something we believe to be impossible.
>I like to think of it like the real life version of cosmic horror
You're my kind of user. I feel the exact same way. The possibilities for the future through technology is so interesting when you view it through a cosmic horror lens. A lot of people look at the Greek gods or Egyptian Gods and wonder how silly they are, even comical at times, as if we live in a much more advanced society that doesn't fall for those silly creations. But this is how they start. Something is so incomprehensible, so overpowering over our lives that the best we can do is to worship it.

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>Unity
Oh no no no no....

not really

all me :)

Is shodan supposed to be black here? What are you all complaining about?

>that's going off the assumptions we'd be able to even find a pattern to begin with
I mean, at the end of the day an AI would have very little reason to even communicate using humans language even as an evolved version of it. They would need a language that worked at the speed of their processing power, so they would create their own, obviously completely impossible for us to ever comprehend.

It's been a nice conversation, the ocasional reminder of why I still visit this place. Since we seem to think alike I wouldn't be surprised if you know about it already, but I would like to recommend you to read the Firefall series by Peter Watts (just two books, Blindsight and Echopraxia). They're brilliant sci-fi novels that talk a lot about things we've discussed here, as well as many other fascinating yet terrifying topics.

>change for the sake of change
For what purpose?
Does the latest marketing handbook just tell devs to fabricate any kind of conflict for the potential to become viral?

delusional
have sex

I'll definitely read those. Thanks for the conversation as well. It's been fun, user.

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Yes that or if you play video games.
But I know actually them playing is not something shitposters do.

DA POLITO BITCH BE DEAD CRACKA
YOU SCURRED
YOU SCURRED IMA BUST YO ASS NIGGUH

I'm not privvy to this new joke. Why is everyone using ebonisms in regards to this shodan design?

Her design looks like a black man, mostly due to the nose. It's not high brow humor, it's pretty obvious.

So this is all about the flared nose? Odd.

In addition, please notice the brow
And the lips
And the chin
Basically every facial feature

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>gormless idiots still take this statement at face value
He was telling them to fuck off because you're meant to interpret art yourself.

She doesn't look black. I dunno, though, maybe I've gotta be American to know these subtleties.

I'm seeing them, and I've seen these on a lot of other races

Plus, she's green. Why doth?

Wouldn't 56% be less likely to notice a difference not more?

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My only conclusion is that 3D art / modeling schools are absolutely fucking atrocious these days. Just think of how many absolutely terrible 3D game models we've seen in the last 5 or so years. It's astounding.

No, in societies with much closer shades people develop much higher degrees of racial fuckery. See: Brazil and their arse-retarded racial sorting which places slightly lighter brown way above slightly darker brown, which is way above an even darker brown etc.

Similar thing happens in class relations in the UK desu

A lobotomy

I dont get it?

What am i missing here?

The only thing i found odd in the trailer was that the story seems to feature the same thing. Instead of moving on a bit or have a different manifestation of the big bad.

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>pic
i lost a few braincells reading that

Same thing with basic art tools. The more easily accessible they are, the more the quality plummets, with only a selected few really doing anything good.
But this is more likely intentional. No one, not a single person, no matter how bad a modeler they are, would look at Shodan, with her narrow nose and slim features and decide "Make her fat"

These are pretty good. Really darn creepy.

>But this is more likely intentional.
I think there's an equal chance it's either this or incompetence. Maybe not incompetence from the modeler though, but incompetence from the creative director involved.

The incompetence is more on the animation. That clipping on the wires is terrible. The model itself is fine, it's just not Shodan. But yeah, I think the blame is on Warren and whatever the hell he's thinking.