S-should I?

Go to pcpartpicker and just get all those parts yourself. What a waste of money otherwise.

I don't want a huge janky box full of parts with no unified warranty

>spending 5.000 USD on a prebuilt
If you're gonna spend that much build yourself something on a X399.

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Whatever. Enjoy your prebuilt and your warranty then.

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Enjoy your 90c degrees when you try to play Apex Legends or Fortnite and the fans sounding like a jet engine

Computer parts are basically 1:1 in cost from dollars to pounds, shit sucks

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How do you think the liquid is cooled?

I dunno lol but apparently it works pretty well

youtube.com/watch?v=w2fFfLlIzck

>post a salesman video
good goy, way to out yourself

>will my jungle asian wife orgasm all over Luke's fat cock while i wait in my cuckshed?

>Click my face to find out more!

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Why are you guys so upset?

>Corsair
>Not choosing Maingear for prebuilts
Woah...

They are poorfags who could never afford to buy something like this.

why is this so expensive

Engineering, build quality, convenience

Main reasons: CPU, GPU, 32GB RAM. It has a top tier CPU and the latest Nvidia meme card with Ray Tracing that is only marginally more powerful than a 1080ti while being, like, twice as much.

Also labor.

S-should I? My PC right now is a hamster.

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>6GB

Overkill on every single part unless OP has a 120hz 4k monitor to go with it.

>i9
>1660ti
Absolutely not, that build has no idea what it wants to be

because you got informations from a guy who knows nothing about SFF, just look at corsair forum and see the children who fell for it crying at the high temps while on load.

OP if you REALLY want to a small gaming PC go lurk at SFF forums.

>2666mhz ram
lmaoooo

>Spending 3300 dollars on a PC
PCfags are delusional.

>Implying that you can cool a 9900k with a 240mm aio. And that you can oc that on a vmrlrss itx

I BUILD A 9900X BUILD WITH DUAL CUSTOM LOOPS WITH THAT BUDGET

That's an i5 retard.

just stick to consoles OP this is embarrassing

you could get the same for at least a thousand euros less if you build it yourself

Yeah, looks great. Only issue is you'll need a monitor too.

>shitty cpu
>crappy vga
>TOP TIER literally kek
>32gb in 2019
>labor
Kek

> Buying pre builds

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hes not a pcfag if hes buying a prebuilt, he's one of you.

really? OH NONONO

>top notch specs
>fucking 2666 MHz RAM
I adore how everything on paper (without details) looks excellent, but then there is the fucking RAM

>Not only is building your own cheaper
This isn't true anymore ant hasn't been for the past few years since GPU prices shot up due to miners and RAM prices becoming bloated

This. Prebuilts almost always use a cheap, shit PSU

The time to buy prebuilt was over a year ago. Building is the way to go again especially with SSD prices crashing

2080 Ti is top tier, not the trash in the OP. 2080 is just 1080ti with memetracing

>3.3k
>that’s budget tier
To joing the PCMR you need at least a 25$k pc

>RTX 2080
Get an extinguisher.

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What the fuck is with buildfags? Why do they push their agenda so hard?

*euros

Not seeing any threads about it champ

Pre-builts don't always have shit manufacturers. Anyway there are plenty of reasons to buy a prebuilt or a boutique builder. If you make a lot of money your time is worth more than your money, so spending the time to pick parts, order, and build and install drivers, and possibly deal with RMA's and individual manufacturer warranties simply isn't worth it over paying a centralized company that can do all of that for you and provide excellent customer service.

If you make 6 figures, even saving 1-2 hours of labor can be worth that 300-700 dollar premium of buying a boutique/prebuilt, and the peace of mind and convenience just makes it all the more worthwhile.

psu is 750w 80+ gold

>2019
>doesn’t know about xmp

Both have tanked in the past few months.

Buy an RX580 for $100

Not really, just have a look at any respectable computer store to see why you are an ignorant nigger

trying to save idiots from themselves. I say fuck em

>Implying that you can’t replace the psu
>using anything but a 90+ platinum psu

>two year warranty
Some of the individual parts are three year warranty. If the build is such a good quality and so expensive, then why the short warranty?
I'd hate to try to service a water cooled build that I didn't make myself and forget trying to find someone who would handle it for me.

When I win the 750 million in the lottery this Wednesday I probably will buy a couple of this.

>GPU and RAM prices have shot up due to miners
What is this, 2016? You couldn't be more wrong.

have at look at newegg just to name one and see for yourself nigger

Well when you work at Walmart or Target or whatever, paying for the services that boutiques/prebuilts provide isn't worth it. You're only making 11 dollars an hour, so paying for that premium is going to cost you an entire week of work including overtime. Penny pinching for parts on pc part picker and using mail-in rebates and spending the 2-4 hours to build and install everything becomes very much worth your time.

i guess since this is a pc thread rate my build i made for around $720

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Did anyone answer how much that would cost if you bought all the parts separate?

you could still apply liquid nitrogen to a liquid cooling system if you get some

Because they are right. It's cheaper and you have full control on what manufacturer's parts you buy.
That said some people have the fun combination of having money and being lazy cunts, so there's that.

Build a PC nigger

>2019
>not using platinum
>not using 80++
>not using psu with not using 1800w modular + cable kit
Optional
>not using water cooling psu
>not using rgb psu

>8 GB RAM still $60

you can either:
a. buy this prebuilt and then buy a new prebuilt when it becomes outdates for another 3k

b. save 1.5k at least buying parts yourself and assembling, then you have a base from which you can upgrade. invest the remaining 1.5k in stocks.

>using the same pc after 1 year
Kek

Yeah, if you're going to spend this much, you should probably go with somebody like Digital Storm, since they offer 5 year labor warranties and 3 year parts (ie the full manufacturer part warranties) warranties.

>buying prebuilt to not build one yourself
>replace parts
nigger

>buying stocks
Kek gramps it’s crypto try to keep up old fart

>building yourself
But that’s the job of the plebs poorfag

Dude most pre build sites let you pick the parts out.

>poorfags have to spend hours to decide if they want to spend $10 or more when you can just pick the best and get it all built for you without any of that hassle

Nope, but building is cheaper; trust them

lol crypto is already over, if you're still tied up in crypto you're a dope.

>$3000+
>480GB SSD

what a ripoff

Almost. You save time and time is money.

I made the count and a PC just like the OP put (actually, one with even better RAM, 3 TB of disk, and 500 GB of ssd) comes about 2327.93 dollars, you dumb niggers

Is that an air conditioner?

>How much would that cost if op built it himself?
Maybe $900 less.

>150k profits on the past month with 5k investment
Kek gramps

Not true. Sometimes you can find a good sale and buy a cheap machine you can upscale with a new part or two. You'll never get a "great" machine that way, but you can get a good deal.

>$4,000 prebuilt
lmao why even

>says this without taking into account the other parts
You don't judge a price based on one item. It's a package deal and everything else is ridiculously expensive compared to the cheap SSD.

Half that.

sorry buildfags,building a PC in my country costs the same as buying a prebuilt or even more

The margin you'd save on buying this specific pre-built vs building is not 1500.

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>post parts
>post mini itx build

How many hours did it take you though?

just 5 min on newegg

>mid tower
> ITS THE SAMe
Kek

youre lying

proof that Yea Forums is full of kids.

take into account that op but a pc that is selling in euros, there is a good chunk of mony you save either way by building the pc yourself

Disregarding the retarded price

>9900k
>2080Ti
>Compact

This is one hot momma.

>Ops build has dual aios for vga and cpu
>Op build can be carry on a backpack
>Ops build only weights 8pounds

I suppose that's equivalent once you factor in opportunity costs. not bad.

Does that mean /g/ is also full of poorfags and that's why they have a pcbuild general?

No /g/ is full of poorfags because they shill AMD garbage.

>Buying a 3 grand PC 3 months before 7nm

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If the form factor is important to you, sure. Be forewarned however, there's very little oppotunity for storage expandibility, so you're stuck with the drives you get with it, and will need to format every time you want to upgrade.

>hot
>60c on full load with 25dba noise

yeah, it doesn't look like the same

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The whole point of my comment was pointing out how terriblely chosen the parts are.

btw it's over priced as well
pcpartpicker.com/list/YwcYjy

>you can upgrade storage dumbfuck

Around half, I just made a mirrored build in pcpartpicker.

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Keep your shitty ryzen bro.

Did I say it was the same? I just picked approximately price-analogous parts for some things like the case, because the corsair trashcan is a proprietary model that you can't just buy on newegg. The case would probably be 150-250 depending on the construction materials (ie is it all aluminum, what kind of machining, etc).

I mean that's really variable. In some EU countries buying the individual parts can be even more expensive than buying that prebuilt.

Didn't claim it was the same, it just has the same fundamental components. There are valid reasons to buy pre-builts and boutique built rigs. I was just pointing out that the idea that you'll save 50% by building it yourself is pretty much always wrong if you're only buying new parts.

buy the pieces separatedly and you save $1200

you most likely can't play most new games at even medium settings with acceptable framerates. low spec build, but good value if you aren't concerned about playing the newest games at high framerates at high settings.

>can’t put a dual aio there

It's a really clever design, but there is basically no headroom for upgrading it down the line due to how custom everything is.

Just wait for Navi and Zen 2. They're coming out in June or July so just wait.

Ryzen is nice though. I had intel for almost a decade straight, since pentium 3 days, but I am extremely happy with my 1600 and 2600's. Absolutely excellent CPU, really glad AMD is bringing it to town and putting the pressure on intel.

not with this form factor. trust me.

>cherry pick parts
LOOK ITS CHEAPER
Kek

Ryzen 3000 will make Coffee Lake seem like a bad joke. Smaller node and chiplets are a huge technological advantage

>Can buy 16 for less than 90$
ok

>brother bought a 10k desktop computer
>he fucks up the hard drive by forcing it to shut down and, at one point, remove the power cord while the computer was on

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>custom
It’s literally just a bunch of Corsair generic shit put together

DDR3 is outdated.

>10k pc
>using HDd

Yes. The only reason you'd buy a Corsair One is form factor.
It really is impressive how much power they've squeezed into a small case with really good temperatures.
Problem is it costs a fucking fortune and you can't upgrade it.

>remove the power cord while the computer was on
Are you not supposed to do this

So it’s ddr4 yet dumbfucks still get scamed

Why would anyone buy this prebuilt garbage when you can make a similar build for $1000 less?

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>10k computer
>hard drive
Why? Did he put his os on it and not the ssd he had? He had an ssd right? Right?

no one tell him

do it faggot
it's not my money you're burning

The AIO for the video card can't be bought aftermarket as far as I'm aware. Also the radiators are packed so tightly in there it's really hard to get access to anything, plus you'd need to make sure anything you bought was the correct size, without much room for error if you ever wanted to upgrade.

yeah i dunno but all i remember was that his computer was bricked for a week. whenever he turned it on, it never booted to the login screen. then again he wasn't the smartest person in the world when it came to technology.

Form factor is literally the only reason. If that's worth the premium for OP, he might as well. I wouldn't though.

People with money want to buy products and things that are ready to go. They want a service without the need to invest time building it themselves. Paying a premium to have it ready to play on delivery because they can. And because most of them probably don't really know anything about computers and the companies are making a good buck on retards.

yeah for some reason he used the hard drive for the os instead of the ssd he got. he isn't the brightest person in the world.

>9700
You disingenuous faggot

You could build that system for 1/5th the price. It's very easy to do, a fun project that wouldn't take more than a few hours and saves you money.

BECAUSE ITS LTERALLY A BETTER DEAL TO DO IT YOURSELF THIS ISNT A CAR ITS A FUCKING GROWN UPS LEGO KIT THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER A FUCKING 10 YEAR OLD COULD DO IT AND YOUD RATHER SPEND AN EXTRA 2000 DOLLARS BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO PUSSY TO EVEN ATTEMPT IT

Dude you could literally build the same machine for 1/10th the price

Are you on drugs or do you just have no idea what you're talking about? T. owner of a much better rig than that user, a 1070 is total overkill at 1080p/60hz

>corsair sell vga aio dumbfuck

nigger thats not a i9 9900k (and the 9900k is just 100 bucks more expensive, you still save a lot)

>You disingenuous faggot
He's also listed 4 RAM sticks for a Micro ATX motherboard, instead of including the extra cost of x2 16GB sticks.

even if you call for a technician to help you with the building (in case you have the brain of a chimp), it doesn't charge you much for it, so still cheaper than a prebuild

Not with that form factor you can't.
While I agree with you that it's not worth the extra money, it's also not the same.

You have to understand that there is a lot of brainlets out there. Following instructions from a manual or watching a 10 min youtube video and actually retaining the information is absolutely beyond alot of people

People who had to work to get rich know that you gotta save what you earn.

Frivolous spending is a sign your daddies give you an allowance every week, if you can’t be half assed to spend a few hours building a computer you’ve probably never done anything in your life but leech on your parents

Are there any decent pre build manufacturers? Only thing I can think of is Origin PC. I built my own but that seemed like the only one I'd consider.

the best CPU fans are on par with the best AIO loops, I doubt this shit has a custom loop

>Are there any decent pre build manufacturers?
If you mean decent in terms of build quality, there a few. If you mean in terms of value, NOPE.

Maingear, Digital Storm.

It doesn't really matter if you're rich or not, sites/stores that offer building services only charge you like $50 at most to assemble the PC and test it for you. There's no reason at all to go with a prebuilt, it's for people who know absolutely nothing about PC's.

Using this thin and shitty excuse to cover up the fact you're a mongoloid who couldnt build a PC even if he wanted to. Top kek

I remember spending 2k for a compaq with less than 100 mb of space and that could be set on fire with mineswepper

boy the 90s were a blast

Let me guess. £60k a year?

It's a double AIO cooled with a single fan that achieves much better temperatures than you'd think and in a very compact case.
Still not worth it, but it's a pretty interesting design.

You forgot the 100 boxes of pop tarts.

>It doesn't really matter if you're rich or not, sites/stores that offer building services only charge you like $50 at most to assemble the PC and test it for you. There's no reason at all to go with a prebuilt, it's for people who know absolutely nothing about PC's.
>Trusting some random Paki to not rip you off

you know, leaving the prebuild vs build meme, do we even need a pc like that to play today's games? most games doesnt even ask more than a 5th gen i5 and a gtx 1060 (and those who ask that are the heaviest games out there)

Only excuse would be "future proofing", which doesn't really fly when it's such a hassle to upgrade.
So I'm going to go with "more money than sense".

Fuck off

Where have you been? Metro literally had requirements for 60 FPS at 4K and it was top of the line shit.

I don't like messing around with hardware such as CPU pins & thermal paste, and I don't have much patience for proper cable management. I would always pay more for either a pre-built, or for someone to assemble my parts for me. The peace of mind, and not having to take on the liability of breaking something is worth it to me. Also, my experience has also told me it is always worth it to spend more on the computer case, and never buy the buy the cheapest computer case.

some games ask more than they really need just in case

once you try the game on different builds you realize that

You really have no idea what it's like to have such valuable time. Some people make so much money that one hour of time is 400, 500, 1000+ dollars. The cost vs time ratio for high-level boutique builds or unique pre-builts shifts into high value for some people, just not you. For them every minute lost to some dumb bullshit like troubleshooting is excruciatingly not worth it.
1) dealing with a singular entity for all your customer service needs, and having high quality customer service at that
2) peace of mind of having that resource available, knowing professionals are doing everything, and having 5 year labor 3 year parts warranty
3) builds that have higher level difficult aspects to it, like hard-tube liquid cooling to GPU+CPU

For somebody who's making 500k a year it's simply not worth it to make a build like that themselves unless they are hobbyist builders.

what if the person who assembles for you fucks up somewhere?

Most CPU coolers come with the past pre-applied nowadays.

1440p/165hz, 4k60fps, you guys live under rocks?

niggra, metro exodus ask for a gtx 1070 and a 4th gen i7 for top performance

This person would be an employee at a store, not a random person off the street.

The PC building I would advocate for would be visiting a brick-and-mortor specialty PC store, picking out all of the parts in-store, and having an in-store technician assemble the build for me (at a fee).

The store would likely have some sort of warranty that would cover fuck ups.

How much longer will a 2700X and a 1080 Ti last me?

Extreme

Performance: 4K/60fps
Graphics Settings: Extreme
CPU: Intel Core i9-9900k
Ram: 16 GB
GPU: RTX 2080 Ti
VRAM: 11GB
DirectX: 12

sometimes its an optimization problem too, you know, i've seen people have NASA computers and still run the latest games with less than 60 fps becausse the developers are niggers

for 1080p 60fps, 4+ years

Well the focus seems to be 4k/60 next gen so if you can already achieve it, you're fine.

you can still play on extreme with less than that

3 years at least.
It really depends on how much longer this console gen lasts too.

Why the fuck am I seeing so many $1,500-$1,800 prebuilts using a 1050ti build with 8GB DDR4 RAM? There is no way that can be considered a good deal.

Not true, there are occasional great deals specifically from prebuilts, such as when they're just getting ready to turn over to new chipsets.

What is true is that you should NEVER spend more than around $1.5k USD on a prebuilt.

I built my own PC years ago but it broke. Now I wanna buy a gaming laptop because I travel and move a lot with my job. Can Yea Forums recommend a good one

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Bros, is this good for a first time gaymen pc for a casual gaymer?

>gaming
>laptop

Let me PC game on the go please.

laptop is really more for work than games unless you play casual shit

If you feel like overpaying by about $400, sure.

on 4K 2080 Ti is the only card to reach over 60 FPS average with RTX enabled, on ULTRA which is 1 preset under

Newer laptops can hold their own, but they're like twice as expensive as an equally powerful PC equivalent.

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if you buy pre-built, you deserve to lose money like the console tier tard you are

imagine buying a monstrosity of a pc just to play fortnite and league of legends

I spent $1200 in 2012 and built a server/gaming rig. It lasted 5 years before the GTX580 gpu died. I "upgraded" (actually it was a downgrade) to a GTX970 in 2017. My motherboard finally died a few weeks ago so now I am building a new rig, on the cheap. I spent about $600 at new egg for all the components, for a new rig except for gpu (will continue to use the 970 until it dies or I start seeing frame drops at 1080p- my monitors resolution). To be honest, I could have paid between $600 to $800 in 2012 and got the same mileage out of the hardware I had. People that "future proof" don't understand how stagnant hardware is and has been over the past few years. The people on these forums that talk about "upgrading" usually have no idea what the hell they are talking about when they say they are upgrading. I see all the time people talking about how they need to upgrade from a gtx980 to a gtx 2050. Which gives me a good chuckle, but saddens me when I see more than a couple of people that will agree with the original chucklefuck that, that is an upgrade.....

>ran a fractal define xl r2 for about 5 years
>recently built myself a new rainbow puke PC

Corsair air 540 with 6 ll120/ll140s and 4 rgb led strips. I fucking love it.

Yeah people don't realize tech is steadily plateauing. An i5 2500k STILL holds up today, it's insane.

So what's top of the line today will probably be pretty fucking good ~10 years from now?

>An i5 2500k STILL holds up today
I hope you seriously don't do this.

it's still good for 60hz

I'm going to buy a gaming laptop and Yea Forums can't stop me

absolute madman

men want big fucking machines with big fucking operating system. I want my computer to be the size of jet engine and has the same sound when i boot it up. Why are manufacters creating cuck hardware? I want my graphic card to look like it's going to blow up at any second. This is what i want.

Tough to say man, idk what kind of new breakthroughs we'll have in the next decade.

Assuming the industry is still stagnant, one of the newer core i3 (which are quad cores now) or an unlocked i5 is going to be fine.

on the topic of rgb, would you happen to know what the best rgb strips that are individually addressable so i can get that nice rainbow wave effect?

its an i5, but im sure it being a 9-series makes it not worth the price

i9 9900K
RTX 2080 TI
How the fuck
nigger that card is over 900 dollars by itself

he said 900 less
as in : the original price - 900 (in this case $3400 - 900 = $2500)
i bet you are american

My post says it all.
I have been an "enthusiast" since the 90s and always built my own PC's. From my experience back in the 90s was when you really had to continually upgrade your system every generation or you risked your newer games that were coming out from simply not working. Period. Now, from what I saw with my system I built in 2012, on a $600 gaming/server overclocking board (back when overclocking required downclocking your ram, which was the whole purpose of buying "faster" ram, so you could downclock it more to get stable overclocks on your cpu and manipulating your voltage and front side bus. My $1200 pc build in 2012 lasted up until the silicon died. In it I had a Intel Xeon server cpu quad core, 2.4 ghz overclocked continuously for the life of the system from 2.4 to 3.6 ghz. At 1080p with a gtx970 hybrid (water cooled) The only game I saw shit frame rates in was planet coaster, and after 6,000 guests in the park, I started seeing single digit frame rates. All other newer games stayed 50-60fps with all the bells and whistles turned on.

It's in pounds though.
Everybody in this thread is retarded.

>900 less compared to the original price
oh

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Damn...so op lost hundreds making this post.

LIES

One word: Throttling

this post is certified retarded

Build a mini atx system. They are very portable, and it's a desktop so you don't have to worry about melting your crotch or batterys. Half the fun is picking out stuff to build in a system, and trying to get it to fit in the box you want to put it in and how you want to decide to cool it.

so yeah you save a little less than 1k so id say its worth it

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I bought a gayming laptop for $1500 with a GTX1070 maxQ and i7 8750k

I can get 1080p 60fps in Witcher 3, Sekiro and DMC5 at max settings. Pretty worth it imo

see

because retards like OP buy it

it's only worth if you travel a lot.

Or if you just want to be able to play gaymes without having to sit at a desk

That corsair isn't too bad as its semi custom parts made and built buy a good manufacturer but for 500$ less this ITX build includes a better GPU, pcpartpicker.com/list/3mpGCb you don't need to pay for windows and get whatever case you like, use a yt video to build it or pay one of your friends 40$ or if non of you can, get like 8 dudes, get drunk and watch the same YT video

So I've had this build for years minus the graphics card what do you guy's recommend the most important upgrades should be?

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What? Where the fuck are you sitting that isn't near a monitor or a tv?

B360M with an unlocked processor? I don't think you can overclock on those but please correct me if I am wrong

If you are getting good frame rates then nothing. If you are having shitty frame rates then you will have to upgrade the mobo, cpu and RAM.

"so yeah you save a little less than 1k so id say its worth it" in favor of building over prebuilt fuckass

You can't. That is why it should be paired with the cheapest locked Intel processor.

Complaining about not being able to add more storage
>who isn't running a NAS full of chinese cartoons and porn

>buying a pre-made pc

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YOU SHOULD NEVER BUY A PREBUILT CAR, JUST GET USED PARTS AND BUILD IT YOURSELF ITS WAY CHEAPER AND BETTER

>i9
But I just got an i5 PC. They told me it was still good. THEY TOLD ME IT WAS STILL GOOD.

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>DDR3 666MHz
No

>Buying Prebuilt
>7k in leaf dollars
Bruh, wtf are you doing

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>i5
LMAOOOOOOOOOO

i7 is the minimum for simple everyday tasks like web browsing

if you don't have an i9 forget about running games at all

A pc only needs

>Case
>Mother board
>Power supply
>CPU
>GPU
>RAM
>Hard Drive

The CPU, Motherboard and RAM all need to be paired together/bought together because they need to be compatible with each other. The rest can be mixed and matched, as long as you have a power supply that can push the power of your case.

If you have time and enjoy building cars then I can understand why someone would feel that way. but there are literally millions of parts that are in a car unlike a pc.

>needing a case

why are you so worried about a warranty? like if a usb port stops working, just build another computer, poorfag

are people not aware the op's pricing is in £ and not $? it would save them near £1,400 building it themselves

I know you are being retarded but people actually believe that.

you forgot to mention water cooling

So whats that in real money?

use logicalincrements set to UK, you're wrong

>Buying a pre-built PC
Lol. I bet you also bought a pre-built house instead of saving money by building your house yourself.

I know all you fags are saying
>prebuilt
But the Powerspec brand from Micro Center seems pretty solid versus building. Does anyone have experience with them?

I didn't realize just how horribly overpriced this pos was

pcpartpicker.com/list/gDRJr6

You could get 2 RTX 2080 tis and a 4K monitor for that price

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because fuck the man

I did this too. Seriously. Ended up spending 1/4 the price of what the same house would have went for in the area I built in. Also where it was cheaper, didn't have to get a mortgage, so ended up paying as I went, without going into debt. Much better experience.

Is upgrading your CPU the biggest meme in gaming?

that i5 6600k is still going to keep up with a i5 8600k, hell I wouldn't be surprised if a 4690k wasn't that far behind

Depends. You shouldn't be upgrading anything if your frame rates are over 240 fps at 8k res.

They literally haven't charged you for the GPU

>he only gets 240fps at 8k

lmao poorfag

Absolute not. I’ve had a gtx 980 since it was relatively new along with an i5 at 3.2ghz. I constantly felt like I wasn’t getting what my gpu should. Upgraded to a new i7 at 3.7 late last year and my FPS doubled.

So many games are on UE4 now and that engine is very cpu intensive

Doubled your fps? How old was that i5?

>doesn't even come with poptarts

Lmaoing at your life

>only poor people try to save money

Rich people don't get rich by throwing money away.

My old i5 ran shit just fine. Everything else but my CPU was bottlenecking on that build.

every computer component in bongistan gets taxed an extra 35% VAT as a luxury item

most rich people are just born rich.

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He also got significantly better RAM and a 2TB SSD, but you don't care about that since it doesn't suit your argument.

I mean corelet CPUs are pretty cool if you enjoy stuttering.

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my i5 is my primary bottleneck, and it's a 4690k

uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/b9kdRJ

still 600 quid cheaper to build it yourself with arguably better components in a similar form factor.

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I'm starting to think about my next PC build. Is 16GB Ram enough or should I actually look into 32 instead? My gut says 16 is fine for games, but a second opinion can't hurt.

>there are occasional great deals
and sometimes crime pays off, still, the best general stance on either matter is not to engage in it ever.

the average prebuild will be poorly optimized and overpriced, and since you need the know how that makes it easy to build it yourself to discern the diamond in the sea of feces, scouring shops for the one offer that is not a rip-off instead of simply doing it yourself is not feasible if you are in need of a PC.

no, you will build a great big fridge of a desktop and you will like it.

I'd recommend more. Some games are taking 10-12 already and that's not counting windows OS bloat. If you intend to alt-tab or dual screen you certainly should go higher, if not, it should be fine for now, but it wouldn't hurt to have more.

>and sometimes crime pays off, still, the best general stance on either matter is not to engage in it ever.

i'm trying to argue against prebuilds myself, but the amount of plebbit in this argument is sickening

So that, when you do end up building something, they can shit on it and say it's garbage and you wasted you money.

Literally everytime.

anyone ever bought a pc from ibuypower? considering buying from them but i don't know if i'd be wasting tons of memey

>skips £900 GPU
>"b-but the RAM is better!!!"
pathetic

Pre builds are ALWAYS overpriced. Also u risk buying high end cpu and gpu only to get everything fried thanks to shitty power supply. Also forget buying shit like sound card or ssd with highest speed because mobo is the cheapiest one possible with no additional slots.

Well, I'm a Linux-fag, so the OS will use a bit less RAM than normal, but I'll keep that in mind. I suppose I can always just get 2x8GB sticks, then add as needed.

At least you know you're getting proper components from those sites. And yes you are wasting money.

how much cheaper would it be to build? i'm a mega pussyfaggot too scared to try and figure out how the big scary parts work and the concept of thermal paste gives me an anxiety attack so i figure a hundred bucks or two for some bored kid to build it for me is an acceptable retard tax

Here's a starting point. This is my pc, except that I have that very same video card but mine is a GTX 1080 variety (I paid $499 for mine, last August). My pc ranks among the tpo 3% of all pc's in all major benchmark programs. I run everything in 4K resolution with full ultra settings, and I get between 40 to 60 frames per second in all games. I didn't buy all the components at once. I already had the case, keyboard, mouse, and the two extra fans that I swapped out from a different pc. The Fractal Design Define Mini C case comes with two excellent fans. I added one more fan to the front (a total of two pulling in) and one to the top (so that I have one blowing out the top and one blowing out the back).

pcpartpicker.com/list/cPRJr6

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at the height of the gpu bitcoin bullshit it was cheaper to get a prebuilt

>mindlessly regurgitating this 10 year old """""wisdom""""" with no understanding of the current pre-built market
Fuck off retard

I've heard good things about NZXT BLD but I don't do prebuilts

I entered a competition last week to win a $6000 PC with an i9, a 1060 (!!), 32GB of RAM and 50 (FIFTY) TBs of storage

Makes me wonder who the target audience was for that

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I remember seeing so many GPUless HPs and Dells on CL i got a a couple of cheap I5s, I7s and DDR4 that flipped on ebay

I couldn't tell you who that was made for cause anyone with 50tbs and an I9 might as well get a gtx 2080

>pay premium for prebuilt to do rebuilding yourself
genius

Streamers

Normally you can build the same rigs they sell for over $5000 for about $1000 to $1500 if you get your parts from new egg or ebay. But the thing is- most gamers play at 1080p so they don't need to have a GTX2080 or a 12 core cpu that normally costs over $1,000. If you play on a 1080p monitor, you can build a $800 gaming pc with a mid tier $160 intel cpu and a GTX2060TI and you will have a rig that will do ultra settings for at least 5 years.

user, you don't have that many good boy points.

It's literally sold out everywhere anyway.

>Not buying the chad MacBook Air

90+ MASTER RACE
Fuck all those 80 plus pussies

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GTX 2060TI?

There is GTX 1060
There is RTX 2060
There is no GTX 20 series
There is no RTX 2060TI, only 2080TI
wat?

>That dumpster fire of a cpu
nigger, I have a 4yr old AMD FX-6300 OC to 4.5Ghz with an air cooler

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8 gigs of DDR4 was a 100$ at points before

Giving them the most benefit of the doubt I took one of the more discounted builds and went from 1,500 to 1,350 building it myself, that money could upgrade a 2070 to a 2080 but it's hardly breaking the bank. I would recommend if you go for one down the line when it needs an upgrade get familiar with how PC's work, it's actually a lot of fun and it's a skill that comes in handy. Once you plug in a new video card or some RAM the whole thing gets way less daunting.
Also if you're getting one of the more expensive builds make sure you don't waste any money on a 1,000 watt power supply or one of those ridiculously expensive motherboards.

Meanwhile you can get a TB of SSD for like 200 now where as 3-4 years ago 250 would run you 100-120

putting a computer together isnt hard. even an absolute newbie could put one together in 2-3 hours and get it running properly.
if you're looking at prebuilt I know some people who went with the NZXT Bld thing and they said its good. cant vouch for them personally.

imagine if all of those parts needed to be RMA'd, lmao.

at least with a prebuilt, you only need to send ti to one manufacturer.

thanks much for the insight fellas
i've upgraded my current (also prebuilt from 2009) pc a bit over the years but only did easy shit like installing new hard drives and gpus
motherboards and processors have always scared the shit out of me and those are the main reason i'm probably just gonna buy a prebuilt from one of these companies

You should do what you want, this thread was just to bait a PC build with the same replies as always

Your options have always been
>if you can and you want to buy the prebuilt
Or
>build it yourself for less with better alternatives that out perform the standard (which is the prebuilt)

My opinion it doesn't matter the end results are the same, you'll most spend all your time on YouTube, forum, porn, and popular game of present time and never really use these excessively high-end gaming computers for anything other just to replay those same games you like that came out in the past.

Building just saves you money and teaches you a skill

Go for it but check out the boutique builders the let you choose the parts a bit, save some money if you want cut the Ram down to 16 (tho 32 is nice or possibly important if this isn't a gaming machine) then you can probably get a 2080ti for the money and in like 4 years you can add more ram, they can even OC your parts for you

The point- GTX newest/next generation number is made for hype, for marketing, to make the people that don't know anybetter think they are upgrading when they really aren't.

Like I had the GTX 580
It died, I then got the GTX 970 hybrid

Most people would have said that was an upgrade going from a GTX580 to a GTX970 only because they don't understand what the numbers mean, and think that the bigger number is better.

RIght now GTX is in the 10 series, the next logical series number will be 20 series. The number that matters on a GTX is the next to last number.
A GTX tells you what its made for with the next to last number. See:
>1040- office computers (do they even make 40s anymore?)
>1050- made for Home theater PCs (home entertainment)
>1060- Entry level gaming cards
>1060TI- Same as above
>1070- Medium tier gaming cards
>1080- High end gaming cards/programmers
>1090- High end programming
>Titan- (they making these this gen?) They were made for programmers.

They should've made a GTX 1090 and kept RTX away longer to compete with Navi, 20 series sucks compared to the 10 series (Not the 2080ti obviously) But even the RTX 2080 is an inferior product to the 1080ti and they had the same MSRP, hold out 10 series owners unless you really wanna upgrade as the 30 series nvidia cards will be popping up by November mark my words

>check out the boutique builders the let you choose the parts a bit
got any names i could check out? been looking at this NZXT site that other user recommended and it seems their options are a lot more limited than IBP (but maybe a bit cheaper? not sure)

>1090- High end programming
wat

High end programming, you know, programming that isn't the type of programming women do.

its worth it if the amount of money you would make working an extra 6 hours at work would be more then the cost of the PC vs building it yourself

assume 6 hours for build + windows

Not for that price. This is more like a $2600 setup, tops.

6 hours? Have you had a stroke? It shouldn't take you more than 2 hours to put all the pieces together in a PC unless you are doing your own custom water loop.

1090 isn't a real card. And you wouldn't get a GTX card for "programming" (more like rendering), you get a Quadro. GTX is a gaming line and RTX is just their catch-all term for the cards with their "Real-time ray tracing" chips

^this

The "90" series GTX's always used to be a dual card setup. The last one I remember they made was the 590's, and they were dual cards (kind of like sli but built together).

Idk man some people just want convenience and will pay more for that. I bought a prebuilt in 2008 and it lasted me 9 years. Bought another one after that. I just wanna take my shit out of a box and plug it in because im not an enthusiast and putting parts together isnt fun.

No. You could get a PC with same specs for a thousand less, if not more, if you built it yourself and did your own research and used better components.

>The CPU, Motherboard and RAM all need to be paired together/bought together because they need to be compatible with each other.
I can't believe I'm reading this shit here. You are so fucking retarded I don't even know where to begin.

windows install takes like 2 hours alone and you'll have to install fresh drivers

they had a 690

Are the ryzen processors garbage? Should I just pay an extra 100 dollars for maybe 10% faster?

Windows installs in like 15 minutes with a usb 3.0 flash drive and an SSD, and it will auto load an older Nvidia driver 9/10

690 was 7 years ago.

>I can't believe I'm reading this shit here. You are so fucking retarded I don't even know where to begin.
What do you mean?

Up to you Ryzen isn't bad for the money just make sure you buy 3000mz ram or better and buy a dual channel kit. I wouldn't recommend anything past an 8700K or 9700K for Intel as the 9900K isn't any better for gaming for its 530$ price

Its not fucking 1995 any more, I think the last time I installed windows it took 10 minutes.

absolute bullshit

>restart
>restart
>restart one more time
>hello lets get started...time to wait some more
>now install every single driver profile

and that's assuming everything goes perfect. you know how many times I've had incompatibility issues. Most recently from trying to install windows 7 on a 7000 series intel CPU.

you're so full of shit. build a completely brand new computer with fresh parts and it will take you roughly 6 hours. if you make 200k and up (unlike this poorfag) just buy a prebuilt and don't deal with it There's always unexpected issues you'll deal with.

I think you need to invest in one of them thousand dollar processors to make your windows install faster than 2 hours.

speccy cuts RAM frequencies in half

>im retarded so that means it will take everyone 6 hours!

I don't even have to ask.

You are gaming in 3060p with a GTX1080? You need a 240hz monitor to get the full benefits of your eyes.

I build computers all the damn time and I can do it in like 45 minutes including opening all the boxes, a noob could do it in like 3 solid. There's no issues unless you are a dumbass or bought AMD, and clearly most of your plobems are using Win 7 an obsolete OS if you don't want on the bot net get 8.1 or Linux, windows 7 isn't that good since it's all been Windows Longhorn from vista to 10

exactly. some fag whose job is it to build computers. what a shock!

A first timer will need roughly 6 hours to do everything and that's assuming you bought everything that is incompatible.

I'm going to buy a new computer since my last one died this past week.
CPU: i5-8400
8GB DDR4 RAM
GPU: GTX 1050
How badly did I fuck up?

I pretty much built a computer over the weekend similar to OP's (except my ram is only 16gb right now) and I paid around 1,200

It's not my job it's my hobby, it's fun and easy there's 100s videos of 4 year olds building and booting PCs in under 6 fuckin hours

How much you pay for it all?

Forgot to mention 1TB hdd + 256GB ssd and it was 700€

Sounds right. That's about the same build I am building, just using my old GTX970, and going with this newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117981 because I needed a new mouse.

You already pay for it, cause that ain't bad as I know some parts in the EU get overpriced but if its not to late get an I3 8100 and dump some more money into the GPU but otherwise that's not awful the 1050 2gb will be the first to go tho

goodluck with that, just pray that one of those part arent bent when you got it

It's always amazing how anti-build fags treat this shit like it's sorcery.

Eh if the GPU is the problem I'm not going to sweat it since I haven't really been playing the latest shit I had a 740 on my old one and I was doing relatively fine

He's got a point there

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4500 BUCKS NIGGA UHHH I GUESS BUT DO YOU NEED A FUCKING I9 UNLESS YOU DOIN HEAVY VIDEO EDITING I MEAN YOU WONT HAVE TO BIY ANOTHER ONE FOR LIKE 5 YEARS BUT YOU STILL GOTTA SHELL OUT ANOTHER COUPLE G'S FOR A SCREEN BREH

I know that feel, they don't make them like they used to a 1050 will crush anything pre 2014 I believe so at 1080p 60

They the type of nigga to tell people not build a gaming PC cause of "Viruses" like who with an IQ above 65 actually gets viruses

You can build that for much less and better yourself since you can only pick the best components. If you have that kind of money to spend there's still zero reason to buy a pre-built when you can do a better job yourself.

Why does every argument about rich people's time being worth more than saving money assume that they are making money 24/7 and anything they do including eating, sleeping and breathing is making them money so any action take is stealing money from them?

Do rich people not have any time that isn't working? If joe blow CEO builds a computer on his day off is he losing money he would otherwise have by paying someone else to do that for him?