Does your favourite videogame pass the Bechdel Test?

game?

My favourite games don't even have humans on it

Pokemon mystery dungeon sky

>Veronica: "Hey there."
>Cass: "Shhhh... we're hunting shitheads."
PAAAASSSS QUEEEN

Who gives a shit?

Also what if it was a movie solely about a man surviving in a dangerous situation or something? Does that make it "worst movie ever" cause it doesn't have two bitches in it?

What a stupid thing to judge a movie/anything on

According to the comics, TF2 passes the test.

(((Solomons)))

>Senran Kagura would pass
>DMC 5 and Red Dead Two wouldn't
I know this is bait but I just want to say the Bechdel Test is the worst thing ever and will never understand how it got so popular. It makes no sense that two women having a vapid pointless conversation about shoes passes while two women having a conversation about a president and his policies doesn't. Besides the "test" is literally a joke as in an actually joke about how a lesbian feminist won't watch any movies because they don't fit in her stringent worldview demands

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Hyperdimension Neptunia confirmed for greatest feminist game of all time

This Nep is peak feminist

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Ys VIII is particularly good about it though since half the game is set in a place where the main cast is almost entirely female and they are always focused on their duties. Look at the rest of the main party and both Laxia and Ricotta constantly go "muh dad" although they're generally good too.

None of my games pass the Bechdel Test

Also why the fuck would you care?
Something that pass the Bechdel Test doesn’t means it good and something that fails it doesn’t means that is bad

That has that team with Gardevoir, Lopunny and Medicham.

>movie gets worse the more women are involved
Did no one realize the irony of this?

>movie MUST have multiple women or it's bad
Yikes, imagine being this self centered

Pauline talks to the Pyro about her contracts.

DMC 5 would probably pass though, Lady discusses her past with Nico or some shit like that.

name 1 good movie directed by a woman

the bechdel test is stupid

>Pyro
>her
Pls go and stay go, Pyro is best boy.

No no user you're not reading the chart right. If it has no female characters it just sucks.

the bechdel test is pretty useful if you switch "yes" and "no", just like you would with a woman.

Do they have ever talk about anything other than the mercenaries though?

big titty ninja games all pass, so that makes big titty ninjas into feminist icons right?

hurt locker?

The Bechdel Test is supposed to show the movie industry as a whole doesnt put much women in main roles, and when they do, they are always dependent on a male character. It's not supposed to be a test on whether or not your favorite movie is sexist.

Portal has 2 female characters
Who talk or at least communicate with each other
And they dont talk about a man.

So yes.

Every Senran Kagura game made passes this test. It's not nearly as well-thought-out as the attention-grabber who pushes it thinks it is.

Hurt Locker, Zero Dark Thirty and Point Break were directed by the same woman.
She doesn't like being identified as a feminist either.

youtube.com/watch?v=4AvuMzSkees

Senran Kagura is unironically a very feminist series, yes. The males are few and never as powerful nor nearly as useful as the strongest females.

The last part happens in like 95% of movies. Most side characters just talk about the protagonist.

Did you really like those movies though?

the virgin suicides

It's a joke, a goddamn joke that people have latched onto like it's the word of God or some serious metric. It's just a joke to make people think a bit for fucks sake

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San Andreas only has Catalina, Kendl and CJ's girlfriends (and Maria Salvatore who only shows up in one short cutscene), But they never show up in cutscenes together anyways

CK2
>Yes
>Yes, they're in lesbians
>Yes, they talk about running off and killing themselves

Yes, and the protagonist is almost always male, which is why the test works as an aggregate, not a case by case basis.

i'm sorry to tell you this but women arent interesting
there's a reason the characters are mostly men

Wasn't much a fan of Zero Dark Thirty, but I enjoyed Hurt Locker and Point Break.

>Chell
>communicating

>shitheads
Are they males? They talked about males.

> It's not supposed to be a test on whether or not your favorite movie is sexist.
Well it's quite strange that it is only ever brought up to show how sexist a movie is! I do wonder why?

American psycho

She interact with Glados in a non verbal way. Mute people can still communicate.

Because people are dumb and like to use simple metrics in replacement of analysis to qualify things like sexism or racism in a medium.

Point Break and Strange Days are kino.

that's how you do it, that pus is locked in

No. Cause there is no dialogue.

The average women only cares about three things: herself, attention, and Chad's penis.

No. Nothing does except chick flicks. That's the point of the Bechdel Test. To remind us chick flicks still exist.

Have two men ever talked to each other in a Touhou game?

Wait, there are men in Touhou?

Unzan
Rinnosuke
Men in the Human Village
Youmu's trainer
Fortune Teller

It was literally coined as a joke you fucking retard.

Nico and Lady talk about clothes and shoveling.

I can't.

>Women have no impact on the story
>This is supposed to be bad

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About killing other MEN though.
And that is assuming Pyro is female

We are specifically talking about the game though

Yes, and I'm explaining the joke because people clearly dont understand it.

If it doesn't revolve around women then it's bad

that's because women are boring
the reason there are no movies with women as the main characters is because no one wants to watch that, especially not other women

Except its not even a good joke, the phenomenon it claims to be poking fun at simply does not exist. Unless it is trying to say that dykes are the only acceptable movie audience and any genres like action or adventure shouldn't exist.

Point Break is great, fuck you.

The sweet irony about that shit is that all games tends to pass the test, except all those "cinematic emotional experience" feminists play all day.

The factory grows

Pic related was one of my favorite films of 2018

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Bloodborne certainly doesn't, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

>American psycho
No fucking wa-
>it really was

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No they can't.

Why is there no YES arrow for the last question? Seems pretty loaded to me.

Wayne's world was also directed by a woman.

>point break is directed by a woman
and my backlog shrinks by one

What about those 2 grannies on the train talking about politics in the beginning of the game?

There's no reward for passing the test.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 passes. Multiple female characters that talk to each-other, sometimes about other things than a man (see Morag's H2H in Argentum, Nia asking Pyra for warmth in Tantal, Mythra promising to stop Poppi from destroying the world, etc.)

Point Break is not only peak Swayze/Keanu action, it has some brief full frontal nudity nice tiddies

my favorite game isn't a movie game, so it can't pass it because it isn't a movie
New Vegas is all about conversations between the player character and NPCs, so it actually wouldn't pass lmao

So following the mental diarrhea of whoever wrote that shit of test "Paths of Glory" is a bad movie?

Yes, yes it does.

Unless you play as a woman.

>Neptunia passes
>Senran Kagura passes

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This but unironically.

There is a reason the christfags are trying to get you losers to do nofap. Porn has done more for the advancement of women and minorities than all the marches and protests put together.

every disgaea title passes

The Matrix :^)

Have sex

No I only play games for men, not for pussies or women

I don't think feminists would count that, what with me being a penis-enabled cishet man that uses he/him/his pronouns.

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For what it's worth, I have never seen a soap opera pass the Bechdel test for male presence. Why don't women examine their own media and see how they can improve them and take responsibility for making men feel welcome?

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American psycho is a distinct feminist film

I don't see how it couldn't.

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Sure, just have both players pick one of the female characters.

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I like to think that my character is female, and a supporting female character talks to her about her achievements and other things so yeah Race Driver Grid passes the test

do explain

>I know this is bait but I just want to say the Bechdel Test is the worst thing ever and will never understand how it got so popular.
It literally got popular on tumblr and was passed around by people who don't play video games or watch movies. They just parrot what their friends tell them.

Literal surface-level drones who just repeat "Oh, that SOUNDS correct, so it must be so!"
It literally started in a webcomic.

Gloria

Xenosaga,Phantom brave, Klonoa, Tenchu, FF X.

>only ever fail state
Nu-ghostbusters passes all those questions and manages to be an utter shit show, who knew that gender pandering doesn't actually work?

hurt locker fucking sucked.

>t. actual brainlet

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Pandering in general is fucking stupid.

RE2 does

does it have to?

Babadook is pretty kino

MLK was probably more influential than porn currently is from a social standpoint, user.

>women aren't interesting in media that isn't porn
REE FIX THIS MEN

>Wario Land 4
Nope. But frankly I don't remember it having any dialogue at all, except for the very end.

The test is retarded anyway. It doesn't demonstrate anything about the quality or even inclusiveness of a movie. Most lesbian porn qualifies.

so sunset limited is a bad movie?
lmao got it

I always knew dyke porn was based

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Australia

Australians are men

My favorite game is about a woman whose cunning takes down all the sith lords and all the jedi masters, leaving only her apprentice to rebuild.

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It's a commentary on toxic masculinity that society would lead men to have in the 80s, written by a homossexual. All their conversations are a parody of what men would talk about.
"A woman is only ever interesting if she needs her personality to make up for her looks bro"
The fact they feel so natural is because he lived in that time and that's really true.

The Bechdel Test isn't meant to be an interpretation of a film at all. It was meant to illustrate a trend in movies in 70s/80s.

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>Porn is empowerig women
There is no dumber opinion on the planet

Because everytime that happens, feminism occurs and they will say how evil white males are.

Yes , porn addicts are more like allow women had rigths,vote,preferences and less prejudges about women

Yeah, and the kind of people who think this is an actual metric for quality bitched endlessly about the 1 time where it happened because one of the characters had a naked ass shot in the same scene.

There are no men at all

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Literally can't think of anything other than dudebro college comedies that would fail the bechdel test if it really is just this.

Yes.

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Porn legitimately has a wage gap, favoring women.

The Matrix

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it's about upper class IBanker chads in new york. It's not about toxic masculinity, which wasn't even a thing when it was written

Tetris doesn't give a fuck.

Master and Commander
Saving Private Ryan
Gladiator
Avengers Infinity War
No Country for Old Men
The Assassination of Jesse James

>Crusader Kings II
Oh yeah, it passes the test alright

Real women

Yeah I agree the gender pay gap is way too wide to talk about empowering.
Kill the disgusting males, sister, I stand with you!

TRANNIES RISE UP

My favorite game has literally one line of dialogue in it and it's said by a genderless dream construct so I guess it failed

System Shock 2 passes it.

wut gaem

The Bechdel test is retarded. Protagonists are usually men so it makes sense for scenes not involving the protagonist to revolve about the protagonist. Otherwise it's filler and not driving the narrative forward. Which you know what? I'd be fine with except these same retards would be like "that scene didn't make sense," if you added in extra bits. It's a lose-lose with these fuckers.

Clockwork Orange
There Will Be Blood
The Good, the Bad and The Ugly

youtube.com/watch?v=k0T5eHJZn1w

>women fighting napoleonic wars
>women fighting in WW2
>women fighting in the roman army
>women in disney
>women dealing drugs

Fuck narrative coherence, right? Just put women on it and call it a day. That will make the trannies happy! Yay!

>muh christfags
>they getting me to do nofap
Nofap has nothing to do with them. Nerds do it thinking their test will rise, while in reality it's better to just do it every once in a while, like once a week or just have sex.

You Were Never Really Here

>Master & Commander
About men at sea.
>Saving Private Ryan
About Men at war.
>Gladiator
About Men at combat.
>Avengers Infinity War
Black Widow and Alien bitch spoke about the attack at Wakanda.
>The Assassination of Jesse James
About men hunting another man.

No Country for Old Men is the only one that fails to pass that you could expect to.

Well done, you've solved the big mystery about why the test is meaningless.

Lost In Translation

ain't No Country got a scene with the wife and the mom together? or did that scene not count?

Wayne's World

>The Good, the Bad and The Ugly

Ok that's it you went full retarded
You're just an ignorant bitch, thread reported for not vidya
Fuck off back to twitter

Master and commander had females they traded goods with

Saving private ryan had the mother and daughter and Ryan's mother

Infinity war literally had multiple women lead roles talking to each other about the main subject

Gladiator had females but i don't know if it shows them talking to each other

No country for old men has women but again i don't know if they talk to each other

Haven't seen the final one

Yes. Yes it does.

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Jokes on you SJWs, my favorite games are all /u/.

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Big

sleepless in seattle and you've got mail

So this means that Ivy is a feminist character?

Thing is that most game will either pass it or fail at first point.

I think it was a joke user

maybe if you dont know the definition of feminism

12 Angry Men
Battleship Potemkin
Crimson Tide
Hunt for the Red October
Terminator
Predator
The Martian
Lord of the Rings?
The Matrix?
Seven
Leon?
Saw
Das Boot
I am Legend

I think it was genuine user

damn dude the majority of movies fail this test are you stupid?

So all it takes to pass this test is to throw in two women and have them have a short Seinfeld-style discussion?

yes

Transwomen ARE women

>inb4 transphobic post

Proof?

nope :)

can they bear children?

>mfw I had to learn this in sociology
>Mfw I had to sit through a video by Anita Sarkeesian
Yes yes I know, but it was a requirement if I was to be a cop

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No, but all my anime does!

Thought so.

What if having no female characters except one is a plot point?

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They seriously force fucking trainee cops to sit through Sarkeesian? They can't have actual tough physical training but they ARE allowed to just torture you? How horrifyigh, tell me no-one got taken in by the crap.

No.

it doesn't matter. the test is stupid from a singular element point of view. it's like arguing with statistic by saying "yeah but it didn't happen to me". the test may have some merit when you look at a sample of all movies from a certain period and go from there, but a single movie/game/whatever passing or failing is meaningless.

I'm going to need either a name or a quick rundown sir.

No, but you most departments require an associates in something like criminal justice. Which has Sociology in most degree plans.

Its w/e tho. Ez A to bumo my GPA

They also talk about australium, pauling failing and the Administrator's plans.

Why do I have to answer with a question?

you dont, keep it a secret user

you could try to get your education fee refunded, as none of this is academic matter, and thus they lied about the content of the program.

>xy gene and education is the same as being born xx with the xx education and sensitivity that you get from XX hormone growth your whole life, Dr goldberg agreed, as we signed that lifetime supply of hormone and therapy.

Scientific and psychological researches.

Are barren women not women either?

No but my favorite lesbian porn does

>teh gender pay gap
>real
every time they try to prove a company does it it falls flat because the bigger a company gets, the more likely it is to streamline its pay with a salary grid. a woman applying for any job in the universe will never get paid less than her coworker.

This is the stupidest test for sexism anywhere. All it does is vaguely measure the interaction of female characters. If there's only a couple characters or barely any dialogue, then the test fails no matter what. Movies that are actually, ACTUALLY sexist will pass just because writers threw in a few token lines of dialogue. The entire thing is stupid and indicative on how tumblr will create a mass following for literally anything.

yes it does

Imagine watching Chinese movie and being insecure the fact that there are no white people in it. Congratulation, now you have feminist's mindset.

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Well post them then, I assume they're from reputable sources, and peer reviewed journals.

>Are barren women not women either?
why are they barren?

who said it was a test for sexism?

>Every lesbian porn movie is automatically based
Nice.

Now imagine watching a movie with only white actors (Lord of the Rings) and being insecure there are no minorities in it. Congratulations, now you have a racists mindset.

some women are unable to have children

Most real women barely pass the test, so why should I care?

I'm sorry the robot from machinarium doesn't have a fucking harem, fuck you gemma solomons

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???????????????????????????????????????

A woman past the age of menopause isn't somehow not a woman anymore, this argument is retarded

i understand what barren means, i'm asking for a reason

The test isn't even meant for video games in the first place, so it doesn't really matter

hell yeah brother

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>a defective illness should become a hard rule for the 99.9999999% others

Now imagine watching a movie with only [color] actors (just pick one) and being insecure there are no [other colors] in it. Congratulations, now you have a racists mindset.

where did i say that?

>researches
Actually there's no study nor research about any of that shit. Only "publication of a decision" that is never backed up by anything except maybe "my son is trans so he's normal OK"

Everybody using it. I know what it was made for but that's not the point.

the point of the test isn't to say that "this specific film fails the test, therefore it's bad", but "in the sum total of all films, barely any films pass this test, suggesting that the majority of films are made for/by men". it makes sense that lawrence of arabia has no women in it and it makes sense that women wouldn't be interested in watching it, so what is gained by analysing it specifically in this way?

the point of these test is to look at the sum total of all films and make the point that there's hardly any film for/by women. the problem is you can easily invert this question

>uhh.... where are all the films by/for women???

can easily be spun round to ask women why they haven't pulled their weight and contributed anywhere near as much as men have artistically. this argument has always been valid but it becomes more effective each passing year as women are afforded more opportunities/actively encouraged in areas where they're perceived to be lagging behind

this is why we've seen the transition from arguing for more films for x demographic to arguing that all films should be for all demographics. it's why you see films criticsed for a "lack of diversity", even though there's no worldview where this is a coherent criticism let alone a valid one. it's also why you see broad analysis methods like the bechdel test used to attack specific films, ironically it's now more common to see people earnestly suggesting that a film almost entirely for the amusement of white men is wrong for not having women or black people in it than it is to see them asking for an equivelant film to be made for their demographic. this is homogonized corporate board room levels of retardation and it's rapidly becoming one of the default ways of analysing film, even among intellectuals

this is ignoring the levels of broken brane needed to want the media products of a jewish pedo cult to tell you your place in the world but this website has a character count so i'll stop

Try telling that to your mother you giga faggot.

>Metroid Prime 1
Nope. I can't remember any other female characters, even in the logbook.
>Metroid Prime 2
Kkkkiiiind of. It's not really a conversation, but A-Kul is a pretty important character and her logs left to Samus are integral to get through the game.
>Metroid Prime 3
Again, kinda. Gandrayda talks to Samus but Samus never says anything back.

Ironically, I'm pretty sure the only Metroid game that unambiguously passes the test is Other M.

google.com/search?q=women+definition
>plural form of woman
google.com/search?q=woman+definition
>an adult human female
google.com/search?q=female+definition
>of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.

I don't know, I skip the cutscenes in games.

Ok then.
>the average single, childless woman

its creator

>Using the Bechdel Test to get laid
damn and I thought lesbians didn't have game.

Diversity is ultimately a noble goal, but pointless and not an indicator of quality.

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where?

why is it a noble goal or even a goal at all

>Diversity is ultimately a noble goal
what are the targets with which diversity will be achieved?

>Diversity is ultimately a noble goal
Actually by pushing diversity, you cause exclusion in the demographic that would have normally taken that spot. It never causes any good and only puts people in places they shouldn't be.

Sauce plox

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Implicitly, when you responded to the statement "trans women are women" with the question "can they bear children?", suggesting that a woman is only a woman if she is fertile. Which, frankly, is almost as retarded as saying "trans women are women".

Why do you need me to explain things you've said to you?

Can't have the bechdel test if there's no women in the game

>TF2
>Sonic 3&K
>Castlevania 3
>Hollow Knight
>Gradius lll
>MvC2
I don't think so.

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Femdom does tbqh

Cringe

>Darkstalker's Morrigan
Yes

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American Psycho
Edge of Seventeen
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Waynes World
Hurt Locker

I forget, what do Alyx and Mossman talk to eachother about? I thought they were talking about Doctor Breen, Eli or Gordon which means they fail the test.

Does Portal pass or fail, considering GLaDOS only talks at Chel, and she never responds due to being mute.

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Huniepop passes

is there more to that image?

>write an engaging story about a female trying to compete in a man's world
>it's shit

>write a story about dudes doing dude shit but include a scene where two bimbos talk to each other about their periods
>it's good
fantastic test you've got there.

And the test ignores context too. A female crime boss talking to a female assassin about killing a male witness to crime committed by the crime boss fails the letter of the test, yet ask any idiot that believes in the test, and he/she/"it" will probably admit that this scenario should pass the test.

but that's just your interpretation. i never said infertile women aren't women. i asked if trans women can bear children. Can they?

Is there anything more retarded than the Bechdel test?
Fucking Senran Kagura, or any anime porn game passes it with flying colors

It isnt even an actual, academic test, just a joke taken from some webcomic
Fucking worthless

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What does it mean by "talking about a man"? Most things people talk about involve other people in some way, and 50% of all people are men.

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Yeah, neverminding the shitposts it was never meant as a legitimate test of how feminist a movie is, it was a little provocation and nothing more.

>Does Portal pass or fail, considering GLaDOS only talks at Chel, and she never responds due to being mute.
she responds by action, so i'd say it is a form of communication.

>no one mentions Triumph of the Will

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It just means that they have to talk about something other than a guy ONCE.

>Your movie sucks if it doesn't have any women characters

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The Bechdal test is a retarded attempt to stop the production of manly entertainment and it completely fails considering The Witcher 3 passes.

because humans are M&M's and we must keep the populations' evenly distributed, for aesthetic purposes?
t. space reptile

>PoE
if you play witch, ranger or scion it does

Videogames usually pass since they're not short as fuck like movies.

>Movie sucks if it doesn't have female characters

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ironically, there are plenty of 80's action movies that pass, but very few "feminist approved" movies that do

Terminator, Aliens and Red Dawn all pass the Bechdel Test for fuck sake

>or just have sex.
yeah haha

>women fighting in WW2
That's sexist, user. What about all the women that died during the storming of Normandy?

>i never said infertile women aren't women.
Since the basics of language seem to be lost on you, let me try to help you out. You can say something without directly saying it. If someone asks you if you were dropped on your head as a child in response to a statement you made, for example, they are implying by context that you are mentally deficient.

I require the rest of this image

Do they have a real vagina that their body made as a result of them having a second X chromosome? In that case they are a woman anything else isn't Just like those with a Y chromosome are male.
>Inb4 but muh genetic abnormalities and muh spectrum

wc3 fails this test

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>mfw women only enjoy films where girls talk about guys
My mother strictly only watches romantic films and relationship dramas
Every girl I have ever known only liked any film or tv series if it was about relationships. They'd watch Walking Dead and Game of Thrones and only discuss which character should end up with who
Even fat weeaboo chicks do this

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Is that Michael Cera?

here's some more basics to you. if you think someone said something without saying it, and that someone clarifies they didn't, that means they fucking didn't.

well, this game failed

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The most kino one of all

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I'll have to check

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Oh hey Yea Forums is leaking

Nobody's mentioned a certain scene or fetish so it's not them

It just fetishizes them, no porn treats people lile real people and no porn empowers anyone.
It's just a distraction when you feel like jacking off. Masturbate as much as you want, God knows I do too, just don't pretend it's not a near parody of real human interaction.

Leni Reifenstahl's Triumph of the Will. She's considered one of the greatest directors of all time.

I think there's a short exchange hetween Kairi and Olette which is not about Sora on KH2.

I think.

>WOMEN AREN'T ALLOWED TO TALK TO MEN IN YOUR MOVIE IF IT'S A "REAL" MOVIE
this shit is retarded and so are the Jews who came up with it

Back the fuck off?! Compilatron is my waifu.

What certain scene and fetish?

Does she have any porn yet?

"Toxic masculinity" was always a thing. The fucking Epic of Gilgamesh criticizes Gilgamesh's behaviour before becoming a good king that may as well be the same thing as "toxic masculinity", just not with that name. Men being womanizers and foolishly trying to act tough to prove themselves was always a thing people talked and/or complained about.
But alright ignore Ellis' comments on his own book about how their dialogue is calling out what he saw as general male behaviour. It's not like it's their fault, the whole book acts as though society turns them like that. It's still a feminist book and in turn a feminist movie.

t.
youtube.com/watch?v=kJVLSPxj43k

Yes

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Imagine thinking terminator sucks.

It's staggering that people still care about that stupid test especially so when it's been shown the most feminist films often fail the criteria.

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>There is no yes after 3rd question
WHAT DO I DO NOW GUYS

>Movies exclusively about gay men are terrible and should be banned
Um, the 20th century called. They want their values back.

This.
Nico and Lady talk to each other about digging with shovel.

Based Japan passing Beedrill test!

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>make hero journey movie
>main male character starts weak
>support cast are all stronger than him
>female side character in support cast
>main male character inevitably becomes stronger than everyone else
>"RHAAAAAAAAA TRINITY SYNDROOOOOOOME BWAAAAAAAAA"

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>Taking something from a comic called "Dykes to watch out for" seriously

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I think that asserting whether or not a medium represents feminist values based on the literal content (as opposed to the literary), is quite poorly thought out.

I am of the opinion that even if it would be "ironic" in a way, any literary work could showcase feminist ideology without showcasing a single woman.

Also, it is quite ignorant to crictisize a literary work based solely on whether it talks about your values or not.

All in all, the Bechdel test seems to me like a poor way to evaluate a literary work.

OH NO!

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What an absolutely ridiculous metric by which to measure movies.

I find it so amusing that an entire scholarly pursuit and political activist group still uses something silly made as a joke on a dyke comic as this important structural rule.

>Sex and the City was aimed at dudes about being a bunch of sluts doing slutty things
>tfw women take it over and remove what originally gave it traction

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All porn does outside of masturbation is lead to the over fetishized and sexualized people (the kind we have on this site), which in turn leads to over sexualized women that subject themselves to that at their own expense.
don't even try to say this site isn't sexist or objectifying either. The fact so many losers have rejected real humans in favor of their perfect fairy 2D waifus because they have all qualities females 'should' have with none of the "drawbacks" is proof enough

The Bechdel Test is interesting on a larger scale, if you look at what percentage of movies (or games I guess) pass it, but it's completely worthless for evaluating individual works.
It shouldn't be that everything passes the test, just that a higher percentage of things pass it

Holy fuck, I actually cannot remember when they did not talk about anything not related to a man.

Brokeback Mountain is a bad movie?

>Author comes up with a brilliant idea.
>Incorporates it in her comic strip.
>"Well, clearly it can't be taken seriously, because it comes from a comic."
Ehhhh?

that's not the point retard

It was written by a gay man who has no idea how women talk amongst themselves and just figures ah it must be about sex all the time like how I talk with my friends since we both like guys, when in reality women bully each other over having too much sex lmao, not boast about something that's easy for them.

Twilight

This. Every lunk head is going "durrr, so EVERY movie needs to pass da test?" Clearly the image in OP is either for trolling, or it's made by some extremist. Everyone with sense doesn't think every movie needs to pass the test. It's just an interesting lense to look through, which shows the disproportionate minority of well written female roles.

>the Bechdel Test is the worst thing ever and will never understand how it got so popular.
It got popular because it's a nice, easy way for someone to bash a movie, (especially if you haven't personally seen it) nobody is really going to argue against it in normal conversation

>Struggle to even remember the second female in Alien
>Have to use google to find her name
>tfw can't even remember what exchange Ripely and Lambert had

I don't know if it's just been that long since I've seen Alien or if the movie is just incredibly bland dialogue-wise. Alien is just kind of bland all around. 1v1 me irl. It's just okay. I'm not the only one, the movie was poorly received when it came out.

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In all fairness Bechdel Test isn't meant to say anything about the value of any individual work. The idea is that the fact that it's so rare for a work of fiction to pass it that it supposedly says something about the way society views women. I don't see it as a bad thing like the feminists do but let's not strawman here.

>cheese grater
>1
Somebody made that tag just for this image

I don't think the test really works for a game in which the characters don't really talk to each other either.

CUTE

Why is 3 more frilly than 2?

tumblr the post

Well yes thing is OP's image doesn't follow that because it's retarded

The point of the story is no one notices that Bateman is literally a psychopathic serial killer, despite him not being able to hide it very well, because all the men around him in the macho culture of 80s wall street try to be as shallow, narcissistic, hedonistic, over-competitive, spiteful and ruthless as he is since that's what that culture approved of as a successful man.

But tumblr loves porn (or used to).

>"women"

Well, the number of tagged pictures has increased.

Goddamn furries have their shit together when it comes to porn. I wish other sites had their shit tagged as well as e621 does. If I only every remember one insignificant detail of a pic I can almost always find the image in two minutes flat.

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Replay the game.
Maiev and Naisha quickly speak about Suramar and the Broken Isles.

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>that it supposedly says something
That nobody stops talking about the MC

>DMC5 the game where Lady is essentially a glorified prop, passes.
>DMC3 the game where Lady's actions motivate Dante to stop being an aimless thrillseeker and be a hero, does not pass.
This is a really dumb test.

My favorite game has zero women.

>inb4 zoomer cites Doom 2016's spider-mastermind as being canon lore for the entire pre-existing series
Children not welcome.

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Japan wins again

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>Sex and the City fails
>Taimanin Asagi doesn't

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Fallout:New Vegas
It's kinda hard since NPCs don't really talk to each other, but there is banter between female companions so it guess it passes.
And it will pass with flying colors if you choose to play as a female since there is a lot of dialogue options in that game.

>not liking Point Break
What are you, gay?

>BDSM Scat nipple torture breathplay watersports is empowering women

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Aw shit son, is that true? God damn, that makes a ridiculous amount of sense.

Yeah, I've watched lots of Sex in the City. I was a kid and I wanted to see tiddies.

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This nigga is right , it wasn't a joke.
It wasn't.

The test said it not me

Well, it DOES sound kinda powerful

Men who do ultra-manly stuff often do it for the feeling of
>this was fucking horrible, but I did it and I know I could do it again if needed

This literally doesnt pass.

>"Gilgamesh was bad because going for every virgin in his sumerian city to provide him the best version of immortality which was heirs, even though at the end of his quest immortality was indeed have heirs and a lasting impression"

It's like you are retarded or something

>go to e621
>everything is meticulously tagged
>high res images
>can find the source and artist instantly for more
>can combine multiple tags while hiding some tags

>go to pornhub
>all titles are either generic or completely wrong
>all tags are unspecific and unhelpful
>compressed 480p everywhere
>full of five minute clips with no indication about what the full thing is or who's in it
>searching with multiple tags does nothing since it just picks one at random
Why do normalfags suck so much at this?

I exclusively play video games that DON'T pass the Bechdel Test.

Did you read Gilgamesh?
They all go to complain at the gods that Gilgamesh is being an asshole at the very beginning. It's not just going after women, he was generally a brute.

>this is what incels actually believe

porn sites where you can't cross-reference tags make me want to fucking kys myself

This, now stop this fucking discussion. Everyone arguing against this is just doing mental gymnastics.

>Why do normalfags suck so much at this?
Being normal means not having any passion beyond the herd.
Also optimism. They are so incredibly optimistic about things they like. Like children having fun with bad vidya.

They're fine with 480p "random bitch fucked hard big dick" because they don't even try to have a taste.

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The author has literally said it's a commentary on male behaviour you mongo.

Your interpretation of criticizing society is that men are in the wrong here. Did you forget the fact that every fucking woman drools over Patrick Bateman? It's not just about men, it's about how shallow society is, even the good secretary girl wants the psychopath.

I propose no, or rather that the term "women" is overly broad and inadequate to describe the situation of later-life females.

"Girls" and "Women" create an illusiory notion that females age and go through life stages the same way as males. In truth, women go through three life stages relative to the male 2, and with smaller gaps between those stages.

Males:
1) Boy
>Huge transformation of puberty
2) Man. Impossible to mistake stage one for stage two, in terms of size difference, strength difference, mental capacity and sexual ardour.

Females:
1) Girl-child
>small pubertal transformation
2)What used to be referred to as "Maiden": a reproductively-fertile young adult female, still very childish in a number of ways. Hormonal balance is optimised for childbearing over all other concerns, resulting in physical and mental weakness proportional to both bodyweight and age/experience. Girl-children, boys and men are all better than "maidens" in this respect, who are outlierishly extreme and specialised in their performance.
>another small menopausal transformation
3) What used to referred to as "Crone": no longer reproductively fertile, hormonal balanceeturns to close to the human norm. Woman is much smarter and stronger and able to use her experience effectively. Arguably the wisest human sub-type, since even older men have sex as a distraction factor. Sharply contrasts with the unbridled foolishness of "maidens", despite them both being "adult females".

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REAL FUCKING LIFE doesn't put women in main roles.
Imagine if your species required you to carry young inside your frail ass body for almost a whole year, and yet you were running around doing important shit.
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that your species isn't gonna last a generation.

Yes just like Fight Club, that doesn't make it a feminist book you retard.

Criticizing men != feminism.

It's like you're arguing that feminism is not about equality.

I think most anime would pass the Bechdel test and that wouldn't stop feminists from hating it

Did I say there's no criticism of female behaviour in the book either?
The scenes where Patrick and the gang are talking are filled with commentary on male dialogue, same is done to females, many of which are prostitutes. I suspect Ellis focused more on males simply because that's what he knows more about, being one.

>>high res images
>Browsing for the sinful fap one day
>Image is all jaggy and shitty
>Click 'view original'
>Horsecock springs across both monitors and it's still not enough room
>Cum is so detailed that there's varying levels of opacity, almost clear in thin amounts and milky and opaque in the fat globs of it

Fucking furries, man.
I mean thank you, but still. Holy shit.

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The Bechdel Test sucks, a ton of feminist films fail and a ton of horribly sexist films pass

jennytrout.com/?p=6635

>made by men
Well of course they are, men are naturally better at this stuff. Female insecurity over this is rooted in an inadequacy at female tasks like being a good wife or having bebby.

>Made for men
Not true at all, no-one wants to watch hours of tedious swampy femininity. Men make it interesting.

(I know you're not arguing for any of this shit, I'm just taking apart even the basic premises of the shit reasoning)

>Jews
Really it all boils down to how poorly Jewish women coped from being released from their niche, hyperniche role in the Eastern European shtetl to suddenly being given freedom, powers, control and responsibility.

The message in American Psycho couldn't be more obvious and chewed for the reader to understand, about how shallow society and our relationships are, and yet you're still interpreting it the way you want it to fit this weird narrative. I agree with everything you just said, how does that make it a fucking feminist book? Do you even know what feminism is?

WTF i hate pr0n now

>i asked if trans women can bear children
Why are you calling men who are trannies "trans women"? Surely women who are trannies are "trans women" and men who are trannies are "trans men"?

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"The novel was a critique on male behaviour"
youtube.com/watch?v=n2fJxoTUnT8

If you think of the word "trans" as meaning "fake" then it all works out. "Trans women" are fake women.

No its more like men used to put up with women because that's the only way they would get sex. Porn has gotten rid of that hold women have on sex or aleast reduced it. Now we are just left with a women without a bad attitude who can't argue her worth in a serious relationship especially if she doesn't have any important skills like emotional support a job cooking etc. and no man wants to deal with that when he can just save his money and time and look at some tits online

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With a bad attitude lol

>a term for something hadn't been coined yet
>"IT DIDN'T EVEN EXIST BRO"
>meanwhile, utter fucking chad citing the epic of Gilgamesh
Yea Forums is awesome sometimes.
For video games, you could have a modified test with NPCs (of any gender) as the women and the main character as the man. Even in RPGs like The Sith Lords, most of the third-person conversations are all about the main character.

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This test is literally impossible. The entire cast would have to nothing but females. I thought OG Resident Evil 2 would pass, at least with Claire's scenario since Leon barely interacts or is even a thought for Claire, but Claire and Annette talk about Birkin. Not in a romantic way, but his involvement with the virus and him terrorizing the cast.

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Being a brute =/= Masculinity

I Don't know which movie you saw to base your criteria of musculinity, but being Conan the Barbarian and being a man are two different things. Being a man means doing something that is right and that you are not waiting for the reward for doing said thing right. So being a virtous mascular man means also being rightous, and Gilgamesh being a jack ass isn't rightous, what is rightous is giving the sumerian city strong offspring or an immortal king

Absolutely passes.

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Men didn't have to "put up" with women, because reproductive age females were acknowledged as being lesser in maturity and thereby status to reproductive age men. Men don't "put up" with their own children because the law lets you put them in place - although it does its damndest to interfere with this.

Nope, not even close

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is Noire actually your favorite game?

Based user, go on a power trip and kill citizens

i find this test hilarious. The creator was just penning an observation in her weekly comic and everyone latched onto what was halfway a joke and now treat it as some final stamp of feminist approval. Dont get me wrong, i love bechdels work. Ive even read her questionable graphic novels.

>Being a man means doing something that is right and that you are not waiting for the reward for doing said thing right.
Wildly too broad a generalisation and eaves a "loophole" the width of Alabama for all manner of California divorce court-grade bullshit to come in and make you a slave for the crime of being a man. After all, if men are genuinely strongly, smarter and emotionally more developed than women, then why aren't you paying alimony for all the women you ever kissed once right now? Why force women to go through the injustice of tricking you into marrying them purely to divorce you to get the money that you owe them for having a penis anyway? This is how men get degrade to low status.

Some "good" things are a service that no-one deserves, but which is nice to have and a good thing in that sense. In such instances one must always be prepared to demand a reward for your service. This is how power and responsibility end up in balance.

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What exactly are you doing here?

same as you dumbass

Women that can't bear children are twice as useless. Now not only you have to put up with their gay shit and entitlement but without the benefit of having children.

Celebrating Alison Bechdel is not why I'm here

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Look at my frilly amanojaku, user.

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>still no answer
tranny cope

That is pretty rad.

cute

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>movies

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>>a term for something hadn't been coined yet
>>"IT DIDN'T EVEN EXIST BRO"
He's trying to convey that the story is not about "male culture" but "capitalist culture", and that language shares an endogenous relationship with social reality. Without the idea of a social concept that social concept cannot exist. Keeping with the theme, when the Proletariat takes up arms against the Bourgeois the conflict is the result of a reaction to a social concept, a concept which may not exist in the minds of a necessary critical mass of American and thus causes them to view the revolution with confusion and fear.

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>Peach and Tiara
>Talk about the places they visit.

Super Mario Odyssey passes.

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Shit test, by that standards saving Private Ryan (and many other war movies) is a shit movie.

Lost in Translation

They still identified as male when the movie was made, so regardless of your definition of woman the movie was still made by men

I like The Fantastic Mr Fox. It's not directed by a woman or anything. I just like it.

Its a good movie
Nothing wrong with wes anderson

All my RPGs pass by default.

>dead or alive 6 passes
based

Notice that there's no win state in this flowchart.

The Matrix

How is getting paid to do something pleasurable NOT empowering?

>Nothing wrong with wes anderson
Well, there's definitely something wrong with him. Can't tell if a screw is loose or a bolt is too tight. Regardless, his movies are bizarre but I enjoy most of them.

>tfw Isle of Dogs

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Hey, didja hear the rumors?

None of my favourite games contain conversations.
UFO: Enemy Unknown only ever talks to the player but the player doesn't talk back.
Transport Tycoon does the same.
Dungeon Keeper also.
Factorio does not have conversations.
Hollow Knight's conversations are one-sided.

Conversations are not necessary to a good game.

I'm surprised you weren't called a seething roastie cunt, so I guess I'll fill in.
Seething roastie cunt

>Author comes up with a brilliant idea.
>brilliant idea.

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Sengoku Rance passes this test IIRC

Check out the pay for all the actors and tell me women aren't getting ahead

Bayonetta passes

it's a passive aggressive joke, you both lose

>Austin said all fangames are automatically canon
>Lisa the Lustful
>main character is female
>converses with other females

Yep, I'm thinking that's a win

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>about politics
You mean the male dominated patriarchy in which they live?

Yeah it was poorly received by plebeians who dont know what makes a good film

Sekiro has a few women, but none of them really talk to each other. Ironically, they are all very well written female characters with strong personal motivations, like lady butterfly or emma or master kuro

>Porn has done more for the advancement of women and minorities than all the marches and protests put together.
True for gays, trannies, and jews.
Not true for racial minorities besides jews, or religious minorities besides jews tho.

The book that it adapts isn’t. If it’s supposed to be, it doesn’t translate very well.

Anderson is based, Moonlight Kingdom is pure kino and GBH has a humanity that eclipses... almost anything that isn't Fish Called Wanda.

>Isle of Dogs
That's right, I forgot all about that. Have to watch it some time.

>Not true for racial minorities besides jews
>the entire fucking big nigger dick meme

Everyone keeps forgetting who MLK was. Even during the 70s this was a problem. That’s why they made sure his holiday always fell on a Monday.

>two female NPCs can randomly talk to eachother about the weather, play a game of rock paper scissors, or opt to throw a party

Now this is getting good.

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>there's only e621 and pornhub, nothing in-between

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Black porn is depicting african males as dumb feral bucks that store all their IQ in their penises and who fuck whatever they can catch.
Good for sexual fantasies but bad for public opinion.
Contrast with, say, their right to self-employment or voting.

You could phrase all of those like this, you're just cherry picking one side to support your conclusion.
>gays portrayed as fucking 100% of the time and thinking only about sex somehow not making them look worse
>meanwhile niggers always having huge dicks and being physically fit doesn't count because it also makes them look stupid - something everyone knows they are
>jews being sleazy porn directors somehow makes them look good

FPBP even if others don't think so.

>Isle of Dogs

God I love that movie. Even if you have no clue who Wes Anderson is if you just read the cast int paints a very vivid picture of the movie. It's such a strange movie.

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Alien.

I enjoyed the Super Mario Bros movie. I will fail every test, yet enjoy the things I like.

>2 females
Trellia and the Vortex Queen
>talk
I strongly doubt Trellia has spoken to the Vortex Queen in person. I'm sure some of the other future dolphins are female though, and the mother Orca I think got a message from her.
>about a man
Ecco is a dolphin

It's usually guys you'd say are getting head

>Don't know japanese
>Have no clue if Isle of Dogs passes the Bechdel test since the only time two females talk together they are speaking japanese and the movie is intentionally not subtitled

If I had to guess I'd say it passes the Bechdel test. I doubt they are talking about boys. Maybe though. I dunno.

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What site?

My favorite video game has no characters

>author comes up with a rule so silly he parodies it in a comic about uptight hyper feminist dykes
>real life uptight hyper feminist dykes take it as gospel
The only problem is that for some reason people now listen to uptight hyper feminist dykes

Why would I care about what some ugly dyke judges to be good writing characteristic. Specially when she herself never wrote anything but dogshit-tier comics?

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Awful fucking taste
Hobby snobbery is fucking cringe

No, but most of my porn collection does

>Warioware 4 or Rainworld
Nope. Thankfully, they didn’t feel like adding unnecessary characters and conversations just to pass some stupid woman’s imaginary test.

Hobby snobbery is what keeps hobbies alive.

Warioland, rather.

>Hobby snobbery is fucking cringe

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Jojo's bizarre adventure Golden Wind. Trish talks to no one. She barely speaks. Still the best Jojo arc.

No.....unless you count a HUPH and a salute a conversation. Otherwise the closest thing to a conversation in the whole game is Allen calling you a baby and THANK YOU

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>senran kagura and neptunia pass the bechdel test

I'M A FEMINIST NOW!

Babadook was carried almost single-handedly by whatever prop worker made that book. The film immediately went to shit as soon as the book was replaced by the actual "monster".

Thanks doc

>Lisa the Lustful
Is that a rule 34 mod ?

Why are good and below average the same color

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This. The book was cool af and set up the atmosphere every time it was on screen.

SEXY CHILDREN

It's like woman realized how shallow they are and are now forcing people to not represent that shallowness.

Have you ever watched a female stand up comedian ? 90% of the time it's

>Us Womans jokes
>dem Males jokes
>mandatory political statement calling for applause

That is all.

this
fuck kikes and fuck women(literally).

Innocence. I'm sure Yea Forums would love it.

That's actually a pretty reasonable test, if only that's all it was really about.

this got me
good one

I would say SS13 but 100% of the people playing female characters are just powergaming dudes, don't know if that counts

Fan service games beat this test like it's easy mode.

>87
FORE!

Having read the book and not watched the film yet, it makes some sense. Still every female character is fucking stupid, dependent on their relationships with the males around them and just overall petty sluts.
No one is likable in that story because they're not supposed to be. They're terrible humans in the higher circles of society.

>brilliant idea
Explain how the fact that a movie has 2 female characters talking about something else than a man correlates to a good movie.

Wow, its almost like certain media are targeted at certain demographics. Is there a test for romance movies that don't demonize male sexuality? Is there a test for rap to not be about guns, drugs, and whores? How about country?

No.
In Super Metroid, Samus doesn't speak to anyone.

Lord of the rings

Then she's a toy for males to play with and imagine anyway they want.
Just look at how many people like Zero Suit Samus bimbo makeover when it was pretty much canon that she was a lonely, cold but efficient bounty hunter bent on revenge.

It's not, actually. This test is awfully dumb.
If I make a movie about how women are pieces of shit starring only women always talking about shopping are bullying each other, it would pass this test. You can also make a feminist movie with only men.

>Author comes up with a brilliant idea.
>Needing at least TWO female characters decides if a movie is good or not
It's a retarded concept from the first criterion. It automatically claims movies with one woman are bad with no regard to any other parameter. Women are the niggers of gender.

you know this would be a really valid test if failing just meant the movie had very poor female representation and not that it was objectively bad

>N-n-no, stop interpreting it, it's not *meant* to be interpreted!

Well, that was originally kind of the point, yeah. Actually, not even that, the idea wasn't necessarily that you should base what movies to watch on whether or not they pass the test, it was that, if you were to do that, you wouldn't have anything left to watch, thus indicating a larger trend of poor female representation.

(You)
Happy?

>Mario 64
>one woman that only talks about the male protagonist
Oh well, I guess I'm a sexist.

>porn is empowering women
LOL

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>He's trying to convey that the story is not about "male culture" but "capitalist culture"
Show me the difference

that shit always cracks me up

>if I make a movie about how women are pieces of shit starring only women always talking about shopping and bullying each other, it would pass this test.
It would also be a very good movie and win several awards. Checks out.

>(i have experience w/mental hospitals & looney ppl)
poor girl, at 14, she never stood a chance

You're not wrong. Mean Girls did win 7 awards

Fuck youuuu tranny kike nigger baitposter gtfo my Yea Forums with your shit threads REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Isn't the Bechdel test useless considering that lesbian porn passes it.

almost every word is spelled wrong, i think porn was the best choice for her

>Metal Gear Solid 3
yes
>Ace Attorney
yes
oh fuck this test, any story heavy game would pass

Is a woman complaining about something?

>Yes
Ignore her.

>No
Are you sure? Check again

and the uk is about to ban it all. very empowering.

merci docteur

Not my favorite video game, but Persona 5 easily passes. Lots of JRPGs do, even if they're generic haremshit about the girls wanting MC's dick

Iv seen porn that passes that useless test

>cites Emma Watson as an actress that rules the spotlight and the stage

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No, it doesn't. Thank God.

So that's why Gothic is so good. Naruhodo.

>OBESE

He said good movie.

American Psycho was good but that's it

no. none of the characters in my favorite videogame talk.

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My two favorite movies are John Carpenter's "The Thing" and "The Great Escape"

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We have new jannies it seem.

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Do women pass the bechdel test?

>you got a loicense for that wank became a reality
What is this world coming to

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Women can't pass the Turing test.

>a brilliant idea

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Yes

>filename

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The females in the squad for Binary Domain don't really talk to each other about dating Dan.

>hurt locker
>good in any way
try again sweaties

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>game with only one human charcter thats a female would fail this test

Lol not to thought out is it?

>JAMES DEEN. COM
Hrm.

>Scientific and psychological researches.
care to link, I need a good laugh

Yeah, literally WHO?

This is terrible. The Bechdel Test isn't mean to see if a movie is good or bad at all. Great movies fail the test all the time.

Unless you count the MC, I don't think any female characters talk to each other.

Meanwhile
>Done a degree in sociology
>This was never mentioned once
>Had quotes in sociology of health like "Some people are inherently inferior to others"

I don't keep track of movie directors, except Scorsese.

Name one good movie that specifically revolves around a woman. I'll wait.

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Ghost in the Shell (1995)

Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Big Lebowski
Oldboy
Barton Fink
Coincidentally, some of my favorite movies

That's a loli in an android body

Yes
As are most women

holy shit, you're my favorite user on Yea Forums now. Absolutely stellar taste.

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How embarrassing

Lolita

shes not a literal who but shes not ruling the stage
She;s still best known for movies she did as a child

>Wayne's World
Holy fuck it's one of my favourite movies of all time. I'm legit BTFO.

Women love violent, murdering men with chiseled abs and a handsome face. By glorifying a maniac who cuts women to pieces, she empowers women and hopes to create more men that fit this ideal