UNIST Thread

delet yuzu

Probably not since she lost it.

I'll delete you

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Vatista willingly gave it away and it ceased being her wing once Kuon's mind turned it into the Insulator.
Presumably Hyde still has trouble with it because he's still inexperienced as hell. It's like a level 1 character using a sword he barely has stats for.

Avoid spamming if you're the guy doing the copypasta

i wanna get into this game but there isnt enough waifus...

guess ill keep playing gg ;_;

i wanna enjoy this game too since its not air dasher and ground based but yuzuhira is hard i hear

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And stay out

Dia can we play a set sometime? I don't really have anyone strong to play the linne matchup against and our connection/matches are usually solid

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She's the easiest

You two can go right ahead, I'll skip

Sure. That works. I'll be around for another hour tonight. If you want more games we can figure out a time later this week too. Need some matchup experience myself.

This will be a good time for you to get used to FFing through phonon fireballs

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thanks, I can actually add you too since you're on PS3

is OP always the same guy?

Asking here because I have no idea where I'd find it but a few months ago I saved a twitter post that had a Seth setup where he did an unblockable setup and comboed off the unblockable and then looped it into another unblockable. I think it might have involved a FF in the middle but I'm not sure. Thing is that tweet got deleted and I dunno if it was posted anywhere else or someone made a similar setup/did it in a match. Hopefully someone else knows what I'm talking about and where to find it?

99% of the time, why

tfw place I'm moving to has 0 local tournies for any fighting games, even the smash ones disbanded couple years ago. Hopefully things pan out and I can stay

>Deleted
This one is still up, was it this one?
twitter.com/tajimaLoV/status/896028013359284224

kw: pclobby

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I'd say almost half the cast is waifu compared to GG's amount.

Also, I happened to catch a Kamone stream by chance yesterday morning and he was showing off some neat things to do with Linne that I never thought of trying like rolling immediately after shooting ground kuugas or using 214AA to side switch when in a corner.

I imagine he's talking about really blatant fetish designs than actual female characters.

That one was similar but I think the setup was different. Like it wasn't as resource intensive I think? It was still in the corner and I think the first unblock was helm breaker > EX orb with another orb already out and then comboing off the unblock > ex orb hit. Might be remembering wrong, but I definitely recall helm breaker being used in the corner

When is it coming to the switch?

Soon

>Helm Breaker
Shit like this then? The 2148x follow-up is quite frequent in these unblockable set-ups so I don't have too many saved since it's just that common.
streamable.com/0kjdq

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good cause im buying a shit ton of fightans for switch.

jesus Dia, that callout on my corner cross up

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Ah I see whatcha mean. Any case this time I'm gonna warm up a few minutes before jumping in to see how much difference that makes.

I'm going to say I saw it coming and reacted, but the result was completely accidental.
It's a good time to comment since somebody else showed up, but in general, I think you're being too aggressive as Phonon. It's good to have the mixups and ability to play as her up close, but you're pretty much playing at my ideal range. Now if only I could remember to jump or use kuuga when I'm reading that you're going for lows a lot.

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wagner in the pc lobby, you don't need to mash a to recover, you can just hold it and it will recover when possible

>Just realized I could hold A/B after a backdash to make Azhi stay on the enemy
I am retarded

>al kharid guard with gold bars
Collecting your gate fees?

your god damn right

ah shit, thanks for the tip

I keep struggling with this basic corner bnb with Linne. It seems a lot harder than it should be.
5A/2A>5B/2B>2C>214BC>j[B]>j.B>j.C>214AB>6CCC
youtube.com/watch?v=DfR787_fD80

who are the fireball characters in UNIST? Hyde and Vatista?

akatsuki, carmine if you count his, phonon and nanase maybe, if you're counting vatista

you mean like those who shoot projectiles? Most of the cast.

The good ol' always charge B hien mixup. My favorite.

These are some names I haven't seen before

Combo structure was similar to that one yeah, just that the video was a looping unblockable. I mainly wanted to find it since I remember being able to combo off the unblockable without using CS. Might just have been lost to the ether though sadly

Darn, one of my first mistakes was taking the bait into your divekick.

Gotta remember to be more mindful of that.

Anyone know if the face portraits are all done by the same artist? It's jarring how some of them look great, and others look really derp, like Wagner looks like a bored aspie, and Yuzu has no face.

I mean characters where throwing a fireball is important to their gameplan, like a Ryu or a Guile

Linne. Literally ST Akuma. 999:1 matchup against Wagner.

It's all Yoshihara and I chalk that up to making original cast's portraits around 7 years ago while some of the more recent ones have a lot more character to them.
It's beyond me why they chose certain faces next to the lifebars, Yuzu could have used a goofier smile. That being said, Wagner also has every reason to be bored of said situation.

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Habits die hard. It took more matches than I'd like to admit to start punishing that consistently after I noticed the pattern.
I'm pretty certain it's the same artist. I agree that there's some weird looking ones though, even between different portraits of the same character.

I can't think of a character where throwing fireball is useless outside of Enkidu's raw super fireball.

Hyde then, easily.

lek here, my internet really doesn't want to cooperate today I guess cause I keep dcing from the lobby. Will try again in about an hour.

I mean if it's in their moveset then it's usually pretty important.
I guess wald's rock """"""counts""""""

Yuzu's healthbar face looks like a frog

Sorry to hear m8. Sometimes it can be like that.

It's good pressure for people too afraid to approach the Wald grabs. At least it works on me, haha.

Is the pc lobby full?

nope, 2 slots open

It's only ever usable during vorpal
I know, it's weird. Should have used her default dumb smile.

Change your steam download region if it doesn't show up.

What’s that eye glow yuzu has when she’s in that stance?

I was totally expecting to get IWed there. Those Seth projectiles can be pretty trick when offscreen.

Probably FF

that sounds like what I'm looking for, thanks bruh

Seth combos look so cool. If only I weren't a retard shitter with bad execution.

I'll skip to reply back
I've been working on TRM setups to beat OS/shield with my normals more and have been trying to put it into practice to blow up shields. Most of the cancels into 5a and 2a after hitting you in the face at point blank with b/cs was to blow up your shields. I was missing a lot of the cancels into throw from dash cause it's like a 2 frame window with button dashing and I'm not consistent yet. Lot's of Phonon's pressure is scary up close because she can make shield whiff and has good frame data on shit like 5c (-2) and natural traps.
As for you, you really need to take advantage of how hard phonon has to commit when she needs to antiair something right in her face. FF throw OS is like the best thing I have and it's slow as fuck. My DP is only head invincible on like frame 9. You can't let getting hit by FF/FF OS or DP scare you out of jumping in my face because it's super committal and usually just a guess on my part. Maybe not totally wakeup but you have more opportunities in your pressure resets. Use your double jump and jump back kuuga to bait/punish FF in neutral too.
/blogpost, holy shit I've had this post on my mind through my past 3 games lul

also to specify, I mean my normal DPs

carmine player here, if I walk up to a person in the corner and command grab super, can they jump on reaction?

If they aren't committed to anything, I think so

I think you can fuzzy jump his super flash but I'm not sure. That'll definitely catch people though.

I know the feel, I dropped him since he's just impossible for a brainlet like me.

>that near timeout comeback

Ah, did I do that too early or were you too far to let that FF connect? Maybe next time I'll find out.

Connection was all over the place on that one.

How hard is Seth?

ggs everyone. Can't stick around late tonight.
Yeah. Don't know what that was,
Can't TRM me if I'm too slow to react to run ups
You're right about my tendencies though. I'm too reticent to give up my turn against zoners at times that I play it too safe to my own detriment.

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fuck, I wish I had a better starter to strip vorpal from you that last combo, I had to spend all my meter to keep my turn
also sucks that the connection is so bad tonight

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What are some good meaty options for Eltnum?
Whenever I knock people down I usually just run up and 2A a bunch or don't run up and reload instead if I need to

Think I'm gonna go reset my router. Sai and bench can make another lobby for the time being.

You can gorilla to spend bullets for 22B and be like +8. Eltnum's A/B buttons are more than enough for people to respect you though.

His teleports can be quite hard to get down along with his projectiles that allow him to do all kinds of mix-ups.

At least that's how I view him on the difficulty level.

Lots of opportunities to get in some crazy overheads too.

GGs broski. Thanks as always for the Linne mirrors! They're fun times.

Definitely one of the harder characters in the game.

Also GGs
How do you like the idea of utilizing 5 special moves out of his available 6 in a single combo for nearly every combo. He gets a bit easier once you work all that into your system.

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it's more about catching 2a mashes and 3acd oses in elt/seth/whoever else
if I establish the grab game around 5c I can start using frame traps and staggers to catch mashes and work throw mix stuff and get more respect for my resets

I meant to ask about Chaos instead of Seth. How hard is Chaos? I keep getting the names of Seth and Chaos mixed up.

Chaos, like Seth, also demands inputting a flurry of specials to combo with Azhi exclusively but you need a lot more awareness in where you and Azhi are positioned but he the basic functions of his moves are a lot easier to grasp.

Thanks. What about when I'm on the defensive?
One spot I have a lot of trouble in is at that ~2-2.5 character distance away after blocking a string. I get blown up trying to B out because it's not enough range, but I'm afraid of doing Cs because they're slow.
I heard I should dash block to inch closer in that scenario but doesn't that make me lose my turn and put me back in the same scenario?

There's like no input leniency in this game. I keep fucking up my 360s.

aw man, that was a bad drop to end a good game. I just wanted to cash out my VO with an IW...

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Fucking wew tonight is definitely not my night.

Note to self. Alcohol with your friends is fleeting, getting your ass blown out in netplay UNI lobbies while everyone watches is eternal

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Rank in terms of haughtiness: Wagner, Hilda, Byakuya, and Phonon.

>letting the chaos theme rock
good shit

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Ggs pc lobby

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Have a mix of 2C for anyone trying to approach on ground and 236A for literally everything else I guess. If you got CS and meter, try 421C to force your way through with a reversal you can combo out of.

on the bright side, trying to pick up that 236c and knowing exactly how to route it for having that much juice left is definitely showing improvement in my awareness

Orie's jC is fucking disgusting

Darn, guarded nearly every one of those 214s of his but then the pressure started seeping in.

Good stuff hahaha.

Fuck, my inputs are all over the damn place. I'm going to have to stop being lazy and go back to training mode daily combo grinding sessions.

ggs bro

wait shit, do I not have the lobby set up right? my bad, I must have hosted for something else before my last v lobby

Not too big a deal with tonight's crowd

Darn it, if only I didn't do hien right there that round woulda been mine haha!

Oh well, at least that was better blocking than I'm usually capable of.

>66c side switch memes

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That was pretty darn close. If only it didn't travel horizontally!

Thanks again

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At least this way I get to murder atic faster

>don't practice for only 2 days
>getting absolutely bodied
fucking fighting games

All I did was DMD on DMC5 this weekend

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Feels bad forgetting what the skip button is, then pressing buttons and accidentally readying instead of skipping.

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The expected result, hahaha.

Warming up helps sometimes. Maybe try that before joining up?

On a side note I entered a BBTAG tournament for fun yesterday and got 0-2ed into oblivion. Joyous occasions!

Expected to come back tot his with some pretty bad playing re-adjusting but so far I got at least 1 win in tonight early on so the rest of these losses will just be learning experiences I think. In particular working on blocking to find an opening.

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ggs pc lobby

ggs bro

Easy on the gold grabs, sai

It looked like my zoning strategy was working, that is until I got into the corner. Good stuff there hippie!

Yeah, I definitely should lay off on that, hahaha.

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That being said, when is it better to not go for a tick throw? At the end of a blockstring?

I've attempted a few empty air assaults but usually I eat a DP.

what a time for the lag to spike
I'm actually a bit tilted from that one hippie lmao

Alright, I'll bite. How the fuck am I supposed to blow up an OS that covers throws, jump ins, and the two feet in front of your character covering my backdash space, what in the fucking name of christ am I supposed to do to answer that.

DP

man why is everyone on ranked right now a purple, i just want my wack ass wagner to overtake my wack ass phonon

I'm supposed to DP someone open?

Yes

3BAD loses hard to backdash and frametraps. I also fuck it up enough that you don't have to worry, the people who can pull it off 90% of the time are the real scary ones.

damn atic, why don't you ever just fall for my bullshit and press something

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>Don't worry
For a guy's autopilot making me look like a fucking fool, I don't know what you're trying to imply that it isn't something I shouldn't be worried about.

Is there a hitbox viewer. I wanna see which sword character has the best hitboxes

I need to go do the dash block trial again for like 2 hours straight. The number of fireball and jump inputs I get is pretty unacceptable

Shoot. The urge to jump in compelled me! Haha

Well I've played people who can do it almost every time and they scare me. I'm nowhere near their level.

ggs PC lobby

ggs pc orie

stagger when he does it
if you dont know when he does it, figure out when he does it

You might as well be getting it 90% of the time against me because my character ain't got shit for mix-ups and my stagger pressure is non-existent against people who mash instinctively

>actually baited 3c
>just to get blown up by a fireball
wew. also that [FF] setup was nice, you got me good with that shit

rip pc lobby, ggs

ggs pc lobby

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Darn that ex power wave that wraps back around the stage is a cool move no matter how you slice it.

Also it's pretty clear that getting touched in the air is a no-go since hippie can do some conversions off that too.

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how many frames are there between regular recovery and the stand energy shield thing becoming active on a typical orie knockdown?

Whoops, haha. Good opportunity wasted.

That was a solid set of games park! Well played man!

thanks, I think my assault defense has been pretty damn solid today

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is eltnum hard to play execution wise? trying to find a main

Who updates the Chainshift.com website? It has barely any UNIST content on it. I'd update some of it it myself if I knew how.

Oh my, that was a nice one on atic's part.

On the other hand, this comeback from hippie is equally nice! Great game.

Yep, that game was a saved replay. Great stuff from both of ya!

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probably going to sleep after my next turn, I'm glad my 8am got canceled though because these have been fun

Aaand my brother is downloading an update. Gonna sit out a few because I don't think playing with 800ms is viable.

Probably a good idea for me to stop as well then actually.

Been thinking about picking back up DMC1 since I've been wanting to play a character action game and that one is in immediate reach.

GGs m8s. Thanks for the lessons learned!

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I'll let this last one rock so it better be good
ggs everyone, I definitely feel like I've been getting a lot stronger lately

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GGs

ggs everyone. Definitely have to grind my execution again.

My connection with hippie is now 3-5f with frequent slowdowns like old times instead of steady 6f so UNI netcode continues to be a mystery.

that grd break after all the green shields and then the FF to bait (?) VO was real nice

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I'm still willing to fight this uphill battle against you some more, atic.

It's usual lobby closing time so I'll try to make it early tomorrow, my sleeping schedule has been fucked up recently so I don't want to make it too bad.

So be it then.
I seem to have become less of a fucking retard and started teching grabs again

No clue, it was dead for a while before [st] came out. I generally just watch arcade cabinet recordings instead of anything specific.