At what point does it become acceptable to ask for help or consult a walkthrough when playing a game?

At what point does it become acceptable to ask for help or consult a walkthrough when playing a game?

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when you're no longer having fun baka

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I always end up feeling retarded when I do it. The solutions always seem obvious in retrospect. But I had to do it once in BOTW for the constellation shrine

When a game has hidden collectibales or side quests that are missable.

when that game is any of the final fantasy series
>literally impossible to finish without walkthroughs

If it throws bullshit at you that you couldn't reasonably know about just playing the game. Tales of Vesperia's missable sidequests are a prime example of such bullshit.

I used to be so stubborn that if I couldn't figure something out by myself or I got stuck I would just quit and accept that I wasted money on the game

>True route is hidden behind gamefaqs

Replay Final Fantasy 7 with an adult brain and I assure you it's easily beaten without a walkthrough. You can easily miss shit if you don't know about it thought.

When you're playing old Sierra graphic adventures. They were written with that exact purpose. The proto-jews of business.

When 30+hour game has permanently missable stuff, fuck that shit

Whatever the fuck was the name of that one Digimon game in the PS1, where every time your partner evolved there was a chance it would turn into fucking Numemon for no reason.

>be sweet innocent 13 year old me
>buy FF12 vanilla
>"this looks cool lol"
>just drop the disc in and fire it up
>brain literally fucking breaks until I basically force my mom at gunpoint to buy the gameguide that is roughly the side and thickness of a bible
You post the truth, user.

This. Depending on how hard or how long you try, you slide up and down on the bitch scale. But it's better to play it with a guide then drop it and have wasted all that time.

When 15 minutes have passed and you have made no progress.

Depends how much you care about the game and how much you've been stuck. Just don't do anything stupid like follow a walkthrough from the start and then complain that the game wasn't fun.

those arent MAIN quests, faggot

OP never said anything about main quests bitch.

motherfucker i cant get past the mirage forest as a grown adult because figuring out how many times im supposed to run through the same screen is horseshit

>13 yo
>FF12
Retarded zoomers will always be retarded son

1st playthrough just for fun without guides or anything
2nd guides for collectibles and some acheivements
3rd compete the game in X difficulty but only if doing the collectibles along the X difficulty becomes too hard to do

what does "baka" mean?

Also, the only game worthy of looking up tips and tricks is SW: Rogue Squadron 2.

>"replay it with an adult brain"
>already played it so they already know

Are you fucking retarded?

as soon as i die once.

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For annoying stupid side quests that would normally involve wandering aimlessly and hoping to find or solve whatever it is.

FFVII has some bullshit
>Golden Chocobo being the worst offender imo
But getting stuck in the goddamn forest is a sign of literal retardation, get some pills and kill yourself

When you want to complete the 101% of a game and get stuck at 99%

Whenever you feel you're ready for help. It's all down to you user, games are about having fun!

Nigger what? I beat 4-10 when I was a kid without a walkthrough, it's not that difficult.

they all have some bullshit. im pretty sure ff8 has a point where you need to win at the side game of cards to progress and if you didnt bother trying to play with every NPC as you advance through the story, you might as well start the whole save file over

baka = you

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baka = lurk the fuck moar before posting