+ only $40 for the controller + $40 a game (Google undercutting Sony & MS) + lower lag multiplayer - all the player interactions are handled on one supercomputer + consistent response for all players + no cheating + thousands of players at a time - Stalingrad could be simulated + play anywhere, internet connections improve all the time, 5G/6G, just take your controller + no load times + save states + literally jump into a stream you are watching and play right away
Versus console - massive $400 up front cost - $60 a game - paid multiplayer - smaller multiplayer matches
-25mbs internet MINIMUM to play -FULL SECONDS of input lag -don't even OWN your games -no actual games revealed for it -have to join the google botnet to play
Bye. Sorry about your Google stocks, better sell them now before it sinks like with every other fancy new Google hardware from the past decade.
>18 Uhr >Du kommst von der Arbeit >Willst deinen zertifizierten Google Controller anschmeißen und bisschen zocken >STOP >Du erinnerst dich das du einen Kabelvertrag von Vodafone hast >Speedtest.net >200+ping >2 MBs >Rufst die Hotline an >"Ganz normal zu Stoßzeiten" sagt der Hurensohn >Dein Hurensohn von Mitbewohner schmeißt seine Playsi an und spielt Fifa ohne zu meckern
Google fick dich
Und Vodafone du dich auch HURENSOHN
Aiden Sanders
>$40 a game (Google undercutting Sony & MS) The entire point and hook of this service is that you won't be paying per game on average, and the few times you do, it will be a small fraction of traditional retail cost.
Jaxon Anderson
Why do people keep trying to force this game streaming meme before they manage to make the input lag even remotely reasonable? It's not going to take off until that's accomplished.
Samuel Brooks
really hope this works tbqh as a filthy casual, this appeals to me
Eli Barnes
>+ $40 a game (Google undercutting Sony & MS) source
Anthony Murphy
To be fair, I can see this killing consoles if executed well. It's designed and marketed towards normies who don't even understand concepts of latency and whatnot.
William Turner
>Streaming
lol
Daniel Watson
don't forget >20gb per hour of playtime even if you don't have data caps you isp is probably gonna throttle your ass before the month is out
Isaiah Howard
>25mbs internet MINIMUM to play Wrong >-FULL SECONDS of input lag Input lag is a few ms higher then consoles >-don't even OWN your games Either on steam >-no actual games revealed for it What do you mean "actual" games >-have to join the google botnet to play Every company is botnet
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Samuel Jackson
Terrible name though, they couldn't think of something better?
They might make something of it. But only with games specially designed to work with Stadia and how it loads data. Traditional games will never work well on it. Basically it's up to Google's in house developers to make killer aps to sell the service, which means this shit is DOA cause Google can't stick to anything more than two years
Gabriel Collins
cause if you can be the first your rake in the money, those features would probably kill standard consoles if the technology could handle it but it can't at the moment.
Dominic Johnson
That was actually a fake leaked to resetera, we don't know the data draw yet. But if it's anything over Netflix (which itself sometimes gets throttled by isp Jews) you're still right
Thomas Anderson
>It's designed and marketed towards normies who don't even understand concepts of latency and whatnot. they won't know to call it latency but they'll notice it, they'll probably call it lag but something like that is hard not to notice specially when they've likely come off regular consoles that don't have that issue.
Charles Carter
>Input lag is a few ms higher then consoles But display lagr is higher. Stadia is roughly equal at 60fps under ideal conditions. The point of a console and SP games is you ALWAYS have ideal conditions. Network streaming adds variables where the system can fall behind
Adam Nguyen
>$40 a game (Google undercutting Sony & MS) Bullshit, when Steam started getting big they tried undercutting on AA/AAA games. What happened was retailers began to threaten publishers if they sold digitally for cheaper than brick and mortar.
Hudson Kelly
>thousands of players at a time Maybe if they pushed for a MAG 2 I might be inclined.
It won't work for multiplayer games at all, at least not without a barebones .apk or whatever Fuschia uses that streams the assets, but that's not what Stadia showed off. It'll be barely playable for SP games, and depending on the game that will be fine.
Caleb Peterson
You're stuck in a catch 22 of shilling here. If input latency IS low then buffering is also low which means stability is low. These are all connected, it's impossible to separate them.
Gabriel Edwards
>$40 for controller I mean okay >$40 for game Google is either showing its incompetence or they aren't pooling any AAA games. >lower lag Impossible. >consistent response for all players this is tied to latency, and is also impossible. >no cheating Impossible, but more importantly, if they hold true to this, how do they plan to enforce and punish? >thousands of players at a time Maybe if you're playing a game that has low poly counts. >play anywhere. Just take your controller And what about the monitor? >no load times Impossible. >save states I mean okay that would be neat, but for what purpose beyond that? >literally jump into a stream you are watching and play right away I mean this is actually genuinely cool, but I have no desire for it.
Joshua Sanchez
my isp wont throttle me but than im not a retarded amerilard whos owned by big corporations
Jack Ortiz
The added lag and reduced graphical clarity (video compression) make this a hard pass for me.
Not to mention the fact this will let jewgle hold the games you bought for ransom and would allow them to make changes at will.
Caleb Brown
>but than >not retarded
Brandon Fisher
>consistent response for all players yeah, they're all gonna get shat on not to mention I couldn't care less about multiplayer and all the points you made are multiplayer-focused
I want to own my shit, not a fucking license.
Jeremiah Myers
lol sure thing mate, your isp is your friend and they would never do anything like that to their friend. Careful with your hateful words though, wouldn't want the police making a visit to your house cause you said a nono word.
Robert Collins
150+ ms lag is the deal breaker. Doesn't matter what the advantages are, playing with lag like that is insane. I've spent years on 28.8k and 56k and i don't wish that on anybody.
Colton White
It's no more laggier for MP
Player > server < Player
vs
All players > server
Justin Morris
All these technological quibbles will disappear. A decade from now, the idea of owning a box to play Fifa will seem antiquated.
William Carter
Well the whole input lag being unsolvable until FTL communication is developed is kinda the main reason they keep jumping the gun since that's kinda impossible.
Austin Carter
That's a broad assumption
When the game is run locally, they just have to transmit the movement data and other things. now they also have to transmit the stream itself. There may be less lag in some ways, but more lag in others.
Also, its all going to depend on your internet connection. Unless you have excellent internet, its going to suck. (unless you're a braindead normie)
Ian Gomez
That's what people said about onlive, about a decade ago.
Latency can only get so low. If you're playing against people on the other side of the planet, you're going to have lag.
Jaxson Powell
Input lag won't matter for interactive movies that the normies like.
Henry Evans
-you don't own the game, yet you pay 40 dollars for it? -unless everybody is accessing the game from the same location, there will still be lag... -you can have thousands of players without stadia -you're delusional if you think ''20 gb/h everywhere'' is going to be commonplace any time soon -why would load times be gone? -consoles have save states too
nice try, user
Gavin Gutierrez
ITT: Neo luddites
Jose Harris
>assuming everyone has manegeable internet in a world where most people have garbage fucking connection and some people still have dialup >consistent response Yeah sure >not taking into account input lag Yeah sure
Jose Davis
Their attempt at explaining that in such a simple way is a straight up lie, there are actually TWO MORE steps now, not one fewer. Player Input > Streaming Server Instance partitioned for that player to be a game client > Dedicated Server > Other Streaming Server Instance Clients > Other Players having the game footage streamed to them
Nolan Garcia
You actually think Stadia won't have a monthly cost?
Isaiah Baker
It's Google, so they'll make it "free" with a fuckton of ads.
Charles Martinez
Gaming is already shit. It will be even worse if Google gets any kind of control.
It would be just like youtube. At first, developers would love it because they would make a lot of money. Slowly but surely, Jewgle would keep more and more of the money for themselves.
Angel Perez
I wouldn't count on this. Renting GPUs + bandwidth isn't cheap. PlayStation Now costs 20 bucks per month, but includes games. Inserting ads to games fucking sucks anyway.
Justin Cook
>$40 to rent a game Nope, you fucked up.
Hudson Hernandez
Yeah, but now we have Google on it. One of the most powerful companies alive. The brightest minds on the planet. You really think they won't be able to handle it?
I can't tell if this is unironic shilling or just good ol shitposting
Josiah Stewart
I don't care: onlive, gaikai, playstation now, and xbone streaming already have had working platforms.
Google is an evil conglomerate hell bent on aquiring companies and throwing millions of dollars of shit at the walls to see what sticks. Fuck em.
Lucas Wright
Obsessed
Angel Russell
Game streaming is marketed towards normies who don't want to buy any hardware but are vaguely interested in some games, and poorfags who watch other people play games because they can't afford to do it themselves. Both of these audiences wouldn't know the difference between
Nathan Taylor
Yeah their solution to the input lag is to us ai predictive programming to play the game for you and give the illusion of playing a game.
Nicholas Phillips
Unironic yikes. Literally unplayable.
Oliver Sanchez
It would probably work for stuff like Korean MMOs, but definitely not AAA singleplayer, fighting games, etc.
Jonathan Smith
>166ms That's 5 fucking frames of input lag on a 30FPS game.
This doesn't work. If Google is undercutting retailers that means that they are subsidising your purchase. Google are losing billions in this scenario. Because Ubisoft is sure as FUCK not lowering their prices.
The vast majority of normalfags play the latest AAA titles and there's no way in hell publishers are going to tank their day 1 sales for streaming. Never mind the obvious catch 22. If you have enough money for good enough internet, then you have enough money to just buy a fucking console
Jason Bailey
Stadia seems like a good option for console fans that want the PC experience with out the bank accounts.
Evan Taylor
If $€299 is too much money maybe poor people shouldn't be playing videogames.
And I wonder how much cheaper a subscription would actually be in the end?
Jayden Murphy
>Yeah, but now we have Google on it. One of the most powerful companies alive. The brightest minds on the planet. You really think they won't be able to handle it? youtube.com/watch?v=ANzNCpsXrK4&t=73s
Ethan Price
We haven't seen actual real life testing by independent reviewers yet. All this shit is staged right next to a Google data center. Nobody knows yet if they can handle millions of users.
Jordan Flores
>-25mbs internet MINIMUM to play >-FULL SECONDS of input lag They think they'll manage to sell THAT?
>Google putting another microphone in peoples houses to harvest data nah.
Parker Roberts
Because google is literally one of the biggest companies on earth and it has enough money to put over 5k poos to shill for them.
Anthony Collins
>God knows how many people start streaming the latest AAA shit on day 1 >Servers immediately shit themselves from the load Not gonna fucking happen
Andrew Jenkins
Google is now literally what blizzard was right before the D3/WoD fiasco(s), too much money, they don't even have to try, so they don't try and this will bring their downfall.
Anything that's too big, IS doomed to fail.
Leo Scott
mbs internet MINIMUM to play >Wrong He's actually right. >>-FULL SECONDS of input lag >Input lag is a few ms higher then consoles There has been videos of 1 or 2 seconds of delay. Consoles or PC don't have that much (if any). It would make anything unplayable but slow paced puzzle games. Not even the regular dudebro Uncharted experience can support 2 second delay. >>-don't even OWN your games >Either on steam Thank god I still buy physical. Dunno for how much though. >>-no actual games revealed for it >What do you mean "actual" games You are right. Should have been "no games" >>-have to join the google botnet to play >Every company is botnet What.
Has Yea Forums became even more retarded over the years or these faggots come from other places?
Oliver Nelson
>+ only $40 for the controller +5f input delay >+ $40 a game (Google undercutting Sony & MS) +5f input delay >+ lower lag multiplayer - all the player interactions are handled on one supercomputer +5f input delay >+ consistent response for all players +5f input delay >+ no cheating +5f input delay >+ thousands of players at a time - Stalingrad could be simulated +5f input delay >+ play anywhere, internet connections improve all the time, 5G/6G, just take your controller +5f input delay >+ no load times +5f input delay >+ save states +5f input delay >+ literally jump into a stream you are watching and play right away +5f input delay
Imagine playing games with 60ms input delay. I'd rather craft a wicker woman and fuck it till my penis gets infected and I die.
Liam Jackson
Its funny because a lot of people kinda hate Google these days. Shilling isn't gonna work.
Joshua Martinez
- Unplayable laggy piece of shit - Graphics artifacts up the ass - ads in-game - microtransactions x100 worse - multiplayer focus - single player games disappear - no immersion - stupid retard audience who doesn't care about video games - multiplatform games will be even more dumbed down - enemy reaction times slowed down - no fast twitch elements in games - low resolution - poor fps - platform won't accept smaller games - platform won't accept sexist, racist or violent games - everything will be gamepad-focused even though it works on pc - no modding - requires fast internet but caters to poor people, wtf? - the designers behind streaming hate quality video games - they don't even play video games themselves unlike indie developers - video game history is erased when a game goes offline - VR is impossible on it