Google stadia

>Always online
>You own nothing
>latency issuse
>at the mercy of google overall
lol why would anyone use it

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1. Latency. The worst part by far, as it encourages developers to make their games easier with looser controls, more lenient auto-aim, and other "assistance" that takes control away from the player and makes the game play itself. These concessions will almost certainly be present in the non-Stadia versions of games, too. Everyone suffers for the sake of one platform.
2. Code and assets are completely inaccessible to the user. Preservation and modification are impossible. If a game launches exclusively on Stadia, then it's gone forever when Stadia is gone. This is far worse than services like Steam. The most they can do is prevent you from redownloading the game. Stadia can erase it from existence entirely.
3. Developers are paid by the minute. This encourages developers to pad games out with unskippable cutscenes, tedious filler, and endless grinding. Imagine a world where every game is a bloated abomination like the Assassin's Creed franchise, desperate to keep the player playing it for as long as possible. No wonder they used the latest title in the series as a testbench, it's the ultimate manifestation of the platform's characteristics.

Overall, it's a bad idea that will actively hurt the entire medium if it becomes successful. This will make the microtransaction and gacha/lootbox trends look like child's play in comparison.

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might try it if 4K HDR works well, don't feel like paying $1000 for a new GPU

>netflix for games
isn't this what people were begging nintendo to do with virtual console?
is this literally ok "when nintendo does it"?

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>y'all

I don't think you know what Stadia is. It's a game streaming service. The game doesn't run on your console, it runs in a remote data center and streams to you. At no point was Virtual Console going to stream games. What people wanted was a service where you paid a monthly fee that lets you download and play old games.

i live in Australia and the government has already fucked our internet by spending a gorillion dollars to install outdated infrastructure (copper wires lmAO) so this will never take off here.

I know what it is. I'm saying that people would have been content with Nintendo doing it, even if it were streaming. There also wasn't this much of a shitstorm about PSNow or Game Pass.

>>"fantastic"
>no mods
>google nanny
>can only play what google nanny tells you to play
>literally one step further from digital, you have no ownership at all
>sub fee
>shitty image quality
>latency
>you need to live within the only regions of the globe with good internet
fuck off nigger

>google loses the license for X game
>oops you can't play this game anymore

you think netflix sucks because movies keep disappearing? wait till stadia rolls around and you'll see some real shit

I hate all the zoomers that don't understand why this won't work.

Ever played a video streaming LASER DISC back in the early 90's? Push a button, wait 5-6 seconds to see the reaction.

Remember Onlive? Remember Gamefly's stream shit? Do you remember those Sega Saturn / Dreamcast online things?

Do you remember playing the first online Smash Bros on Wii? I do. The input lag was UNBEARABLE compared to local to the point there's NO FUCKING REASON to play it ever. Do you want that kind of latency in your video games?

Ever played a rhythm game in the early days when CRT's got replaced with flat screen shit? Impossible unless you calibrated the game.

This stream-shit kills quirky fun perpherials for the home market. This forces devs to compensate their game for input lag, especially if the majority choose to "stream" their game.

30, 40 years from now you'll never have a treasure trove of games you can dig out and play for nostalgia or to show others. (Fuck having kids.) To this day I can dig out my old PS2 and play Final Fantasy Tactics or whip out my old metal dance pad and play some DDR / ITG no problems. Heck Guitar Hero if I felt like it. Fuck it dawg, I don't have to "pay" to "stream" a game I once played.

Yes I understand you can pirate those games I listed, but imagine if those games were only available through a stream service? Only a pissed off worker bee could leak the source files to even make it piratable.

Imagine playing multiplayer and your team mates are stream-cucked with horrible lag. Well, goodbye to your rank / dreams of being an e-sports cuck. Imagine how easy China can access such a service and ruin an MMO market, avoid bans, VPN on to English only servers.

Google is beating the dead corpse of gaming if this thing goes mainstream. I hope it never will but by god if the fem-blue pilled cuck virgin boomers adopt this style of game service we are ALL fucked. Buy a 454 Casull and end your life 100% guaranteed once that happens lads.

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what will be "the office" of stadia?

DmC

OnLive worked okay but was limited by the encoding capability at the time and since it was only 6Mbps and 720p.

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Sure really "fantastic concept" not owning your games but still having to pay for them!

with realistic bandwith and latency it will be shit. there is noway this will be as cheap and as reliable as netflix. real time encoding and decoding 4k(hell even 1080p is shit) videos are pipe dream. the internet will never catchup with resolution industry on this thing.

>Ever played a rhythm game in the early days when CRT's got replaced with flat screen shit? Impossible unless you calibrated the game.

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>. I'm saying that people would have been content with Nintendo doing it, even if it were streaming.
So you've invented a scenario that never happened in order to complain about it, and even admit that there wasn't a shitstorm over PSNow, yet insist that there would be a fictional attitude of "It's okay when Nintendo does it".
Stop wasting my time.

Sorry, should have said "it's not okay when Google does it".

>playing real games with input lag
>no modding
>no mapping
>no offline
>is going to waste 20go/hour of data, just imagine the weight of this turd on an entire country
>youtube image quality
>you don't own your game anymore
>gaming as a service
>great

I fucking hate normies.

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Why is everyone on this board so backwards and assfucked about streaming?
Someone reviewed Stadia playing AC:Odyssey at 4k 60FPS FOR FUCKS SAKES (nobody games at 4k 60fps not even PC fags) and said that aside from a few hickups and minimal input lag it was a very enjoyable experience.
This is the fucking beginning. Of course it's gonna be rough at first but fucking 4k 60fps???!!! Are you serious?

>paying to play games with significant input lag
no, ty.

most of those are true for consoles, you brought this upon yourself and that's why it will succeed

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>Why y'all hating on this?
I don't want google to have a monopoly on gaming also you own none of your games you pay to rent and this could destroy the actual market becuse air breathing retards will give google billions

shut the fuck up you absolute drooling retard

Wow, anonymous poster claims that "someone" tested it and it was fine, thank you for this amazing argument.

>overpriced PC builds
Are you a fucking thirdworld nigger? Decent gaming rig costs like half of my monthly salary.

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Is streaming their endgame to stop all piracy?

The first exclusives are going to boast 0 piracy, then every dev will want to be on a streaming service even when its going to fuck over consumers

I saw this post multiple times already on Yea Forums.

How much are you paid?

He thinks people buy a 2080Ti to play on a 1080p 60Hz monitor or something.

it won't run at 4k 60FPS with my internet but even if it did, what i am against is the concept of it, it is still anticonsumer on its core, if the industry moves into it we are simply parting ways

its just a pipe dream.
it cant be cheap good and reliable

He do it for free.

because of encoding steam in home streaming shits on rocket league why do you think it will be reliable to play on googles servers lmao

zoomers will eat it up

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he do it for the (you)s, he probably is a poor third worlder who can't buy a decent pc rig and thinks stadia will magically allow him to play all those games, stadia is the equivalent of communism

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>not shitty H.264 encoding
also the beta was alright, if it's really 4K HDR 60 fps I'll buy it

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That's better.
Sorry if I seemed rude.

Um, I do.

I just haven't bothered to update my monitor and really have no reason to unless 144hz is really that much better.

I don't see a point to play 4k on games. Most of the time you get a competitive edge by changing the graphics to low. (See: Overwatch, Rust, Dead by Daylight.)

In case you haven't noticed OP, fucking Jewggle manages to ruin EVERYTHING, no matter now good the idea. no exceptions. How long until they are censoring for "hate speech," if they aren't already doing it at roll out? Sure, Steam blows but at least you can get...the older COD games where you get to kill favella monkeys. You think google will ever allow that game? Forget it.

Is Google really that out of touch?

Like, what were they THINKING?

Thread theme has become this:
youtu.be/s_8KR-n2fBQ

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Shut up, if I invent scenarios in my mind and win in all of them, I'm still a winner.

Take your fat ass back reddit, Please

fpbp

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>pointing out how streaming games is shit is leddit
(You)

Basically always online and you don't own anything.This is why i hate it.YOU OWN NOTHING.

>144hz is really that much better
it is

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G-Sync or FreeSync make a big difference
Probably the biggest/most noticeable upgrade since getting a SSD

how many times are we going to do this whole game streaming bullshit?

Onlive
Gamefly has or had a similar service
Sony has one

now Google thinks they can do it.

did you see the preview videos with those awful input lag?

i would play games on a console if that's the type of service Google thinks is acceptable to demo.

Reminder that you need 20GB per hour for 4k 60fps
Reminder that devs are being paid by the time played.
Reminder that if you support this you are a drooling zoomer retard.

144Hz is genuinely as great as you hear people claim.

It's funny because Stadia is the only one ouf of those you CAN'T use on an airplane.

did you play project stream

>G-Sync or FreeSync make a big difference
NVIDIA must have been preparing for this for a while, which is why suddenly a driver is available to make my non-GSYNC monitor GYSNC in the past few months. NVIDIA has gotten way too fucking greedy in past 2 years, so if forces them to stop being such greedy scumbags, maybe it won't be that bad. However, ANYTHINg that gives Jewggle more power and control can't be good in the long run.

even a Zoomer will see that those games aren't playable.

they will go and buy a console or download steam/epic store.

planes have wifi nowadays gramps and people have tested stadia on 4G and it works fine, get with the times

>people have tested
Cool source.

don't know why others hate it but here's my reason: it's too early and it's Google.

too early because eventually we all have computer as a service, ie empty box with internet connection and we'll buy CPU, GPU, storage and RAM as an online service. it will suck and be the end of privacy, but inevitable and I accept this faith. if games turned into a service along with everything else as described above I wouldn't mind because it won't affect games - they would still be the same you just run everything remotely.
however, opening 'games' as a service, like Google do, will lead to something else - games will now compete and pure game time, meaning they will turn into endless addiction bait with grind, like cheap MMOs. this will destroy what's left of the AAA market.

why I hate it being Google: I worked with some Google APIs and basically they rape you into using their services. I can already imagine how once stadia dominate the market they will shove their cock into game devs as deep as they can. pH you want to use storage? sure thing, connect to Google storage services! need AI? Google AI! rendering? did you hear about Google rendering??
they will slowly chip away actual programing and replace it with Google services you have to use and combine together like some generic puzzle. not only this will completely kill any artistic freedom and turn everything into a mediocre generic blend (like unity asset flips) it will also make gamedev very expensive and hard to get into, killing off the indie market completely.

tl;Dr if stadia becomes a thing it will kill indie games, kill any artistic freedom, and change games business model into Chinese mmo hook-and-grind. but what do Google care, they'll make billions, dominate the market, and next generation who don't know any better will think this is all there is in gaming and continue playing.

>144Hz is genuinely as great as you hear people claim.
What do you even run at 144 though? of my 3 computer setup, I have a 27 inch that can run at 144, but what fucking game other than..I think one driving game even supports it??

Can you explain?

>with some improvement

Yeah the problem being that until we can get quantum entanglement-based networking off the ground, that improvement will never come. "best case scenario" 150ms of imput lag for a videogame is nonsensical.

>if stadia becomes a thing it will kill indie games, kill any artistic freedom, and change games business model
you can already bet it will, just a question of how long. And THEN the fucking censorship will start, same as with fucking YT. You get used to it and dependent on it, and then overnight fucking everything is censored worse than old network TV.

>gsync/freesync
It removes any screen tearing whenever the GPU can't maintain the framerate (144fps for example).

>minimal input lag it was a very enjoyable experience.
youtube.com/watch?v=lP1M_-r6DmQ&feature=youtu.be
OH NO NO NO

It's pretty much like another jump from 30 to 60.
Go to your nvidia or AMD control panel and create a custom resulution with 30hz refresh. Then use your desktop for a while, you know just richt click some shit, drag some windows around etc.
That's what 60fps feels like to someone accustomed to 144.

People saying muh latency are fucking retarded, are you really that braindead you don't think they are trying to fix this? They are not gonna ship it when "normal" users will have a 1 sec delay all the time. you all take that shitty presentation at GDC as the final product

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>150ms of imput lag for a videogame is nonsensical
i read that is already a reality for console gaming and that the markets will overlap cause the casual brain works differently

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>And THEN the fucking censorship will start
awww shit I forgot about that! damn it will be even worse then I thought. well guess we'll just have to tell our children that games used to be something else, and they wouldn't understand. kinda sad.

>y'all
Why do you writer like a nigger?

Because I'm not a brainwashed shill NPC.

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Again, PC numbers here are pure bullshit. Likely taken with triple buffered vsync for false advertising.

>That's what 60fps feels like to someone accustomed to 144.
What brand and size monitor are you using? the only monitor I have that goes up to 144 is 27 inches, I wanted a bigger one so I could have 3 33 inch monitors all lined up. Most stop at 100 or 120, but doesn't seem to matter since most games I'm into don't function above 60 or 80 anyway...

fpbp

>well guess we'll just have to tell our children that games used to be something else
No, like anything else, the fucking developers are so fucking full of themselves and trapped in their own bubble, they don't realize the power of weaponized autism-- esp with ~100 million "fuckin white males!" and some asians working together to fuck them and find a work around.

these are the real issues desu. all the talk about latency, lags and fps completely miss the point, Google will eventually solve the technical details, and that's the scary part really. that they'll succeed.

GOD TIER POST STADIA BTFO

>The concept is fantastic
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>hey i want replay that g-
>NOTICE that game has been removed, we're always keeping games fresh and new on stadia!
>hey i want to play this g-
>NOTICE you must upgrade your subscription to gamer prime elite status to access that tier of elite aaa just released games or you must wait 2 weeks to play
>i want to play onl-
>NOTICE extra monthly fee required to enable online multiplayer, subscribe now
>wow this game sure is fu-
>WARNING due to extensive use you have been throttled down to 480p
>but-
>WARNING due to weekend peak hours your picture quality maybe "adjusted" as needed
>WARNING during peak hours you maybe disconnected
>okay i better save my-
>NOTICE cloud storage space exceeded, upgrade your savegame storage for another additional fee
>DISCONNECTED your isp has blocked stadia until you upgrade your billing tier to exxxtreme gamer game gaming grade internet

Hmm. I might have to upgrade then.

If someone streams with 144hz setting can the viewers tell or will it still look the same if they aren't also 144hz?

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because in the long run it takes power away from consumers and gives it to google

fuck u name retard

Nah, you can't tell with video files at all. But if you run a game at 120+ fps on a 60hz display you'll still notice a bit of difference since the game is accepting inputs more accurately.

>overpriced PC builds
disregarding OP's b8, What are some tips for avoiding overpriced PC parts? Im in the market for one and I know better than to trust prebuilt prices.
Ive had anons say that 6 gb is ideal for video cards, and Im aiming to have i7 gpu and 16 ram, so what is an ideal cost for all this shit?
Heres a PC I found off some shitty website in pic related, is this a shit price? do anons have any bad experiences with prebuilt PCs or is it actually ok to do.

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Wow I can't wait for every game ever to end up like Battleforge, what a bright future!

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My feelings are source enough.

Building it yourself is generally cheaper especially if you manage to get parts when they're on sale.

You're American how could you possibly fuck up building a PC cheap with all those micro-centers and crazy component deals you get?

>G00lags gonna gulag

This

The lag will render it unplayable, unusable trash. For fuck’s sake, Google demoed it under controlled conditions to show the product off and the lag was an unmitigated disaster, imagine how pitifully it’s going to perform out in the wild

>but they’ll fix it
It’s not on them to fix, unless part of the roll-out for Stadia is ripping all of the planet’s copper-wire internet backbone out and replacing it with fiber which, no, no it’s not.

>no mods
>you don't own your games
>requires constant internet connection
>privacy completely shattered
Did i answer you question?

Without instant communication Stadia will always be a useless product. Streaming is way ahead of its time, without ipv6 undoing the clusterfuck that is ipv4 internet topography, routing will always bottleneck and render game streaming useless

Bad goy

not sure what your objectives are, but unless you're esports 144/240hz gamer
i7-9700k is a 400usd overkill + 120usd OC mobo, when you can get i5-9400f for 170usd and a mobo for 50-60 bucks

getting a strong GPU does make sense as it has by far the most impact on performance, but if you only want to 1080p you dont have to
spend all that much either

you can have a great experience at 1080p high or ultra on a fairly small budget

I really like how removing vowels leaves you with STD

What incentives is would Publishers and developers have make good video games once everything is streamed?

Lots of people would love to try it if Google Fiber is nationwide instead of being killed off by other ISPs.

>y'all

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Its a Google shill not. They are trying to market it here, to generate a cool buzz about their new product. It will flop but marketers gotta try. I kind of feel sorry for them, a bunch of hardworking professionals have to spend the the next few weeks shitposting with you little cunnys. But Google Stevia will fail, you might as well give up now.

>Why y'all hating on this?
Maybe because is a cross-breed between medieval feudalism, corporate fascism, soviet stalinism and a mafia organization?

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but i don't want them posting here because they are niggers

hey google niggers, you're all niggers

I’m very sorry for Google that AT&T owns 70% of the US internet backbone and won’t give it up. It’s not a happy situation to be in, I know that. But it IS the situation we’re in, and OnLive already proved that it cannot be fixed without fixing the quality of the connection.

Jesus Christ OnLive only asked for a 6MBPS connection and ran 720p video, and the latency was unacceptable. Imagine trying to also shit 4k/60 video data through the same pipe, in an era when literally every one of your neighbors is using Netflix right now. Google cannot accomplish what they hope to accomplish.

It’s a failure, it’s a stillborn joke of a game delivery system. It always will be, because the people operating a system like this will always be people who don’t control the infrastructure that bottlenecks it.

you clearly don't know anything about advertisment, streaming or anything stadia related for that matter, you are just the average joe who will buy google's new flop just to be dissapointed, just like the onlive people
>frogposter
why am I not surprised

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>fantastic
What's fantastic about it?

>game gets removed due to copywright, licensing or the dev going bankrupt
>its lost forever
yes goyim, streaming is the way of the future

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Just have more data centers closer to consumers which Google already has. And 25 Mbps recommended which even poor people have nowadays.

>GOG is the only sane and normal person
Checks out

Unless Google ships a portable data center to every single subscriber's home, it won't matter. Shitty last mile connections will make the user experience terrible 9 times out of 10.

Literally lying

Stream stability concerns.
Input latency.
Cost.
It's basically the ultimate DRM too, no cheats, no mods, no fun.

Wait for a couple of months, when AMD is scheduled to release god-tier CPUs and some real bang for your buck GPUs, and as an added bonus RAM prices will drop as well.

cringe

You have to do better than that. Remind them that marketers and sales are the most hated scum in the entire universe. Remind them that they have noskills, that they couldn't sell bubblegum to a 14 year old boy if they paid them to take it away. They will never be a real intercorporate field salesman. They will never be a healthy weight. Remind them that even if their shitty product is successful, no one gives a fuck about the sales team that got the volume, no one will ever remember once the commission gets cashed. The Google Stevia is a pile if shit, it will never sell and you are all double glazing salemen tier maggots with no future in sales or in life. Actually worse, because double glazing is actually useful. You can't just call them niggers, you have to get mean. Google niggers, we all want you gone. Not just from the board, but from the planet. Kill yourselves, you will never make target.

run a traceroute to YouTube, I'll wait

ITT: shilling

>too early because eventually we all have computer as a service, ie empty box with internet connection and we'll buy CPU, GPU, storage and RAM as an online service.

Don't be delusional, this will never happen. There are millions of situations and tasks that require system to be offline and Internet will only grow slower.

top kek

Gamers aren’t very forward thinking. Once they get all the lag shit fixed this will be a gamechanger.

>Dear user
>We are here to inform that we are suspending your STADIA account as well as erasing most of your cloud data after we've gotten report of from username Miss_PenisCutVaginaGash666 of your abusive and trolling behavior.
>Please understand that we cannot give you access to the video games that you bought in our store until you learned your lesson. Thank you.

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Latency and speed are important but stability is the other issue.
For the sake of the layman readers here I'll try and make it simple.

When you're using Netflix, a video -exists- on a server and needs to reach your client. It can be delivered over the internet and buffered for several seconds before your client plays it. With this buffer you enable the connection to drop out and lose parts of the data, because they can be caught and picked up and redelivered during the buffer window, meaning that even with short cuts in the connection the experience for the viewer is a completely stable video. These cuts happen all the time, even with the best connections. If you're using wireless at any point in your chain these cuts are inevitable. See: Most mobile devices.

With video games, having such a buffer would create extreme latency between player input and character actions, it's not possible to buffer the video feed because it does not -exist- on the server. The video is constantly being -created- instead, with the player in charge of the creation. Buffering becomes almost impossible here, with only a few miliseconds at best. The result is that any momentary loss in connection will result in dropped frames and stuttering video, segments of time disappear forever. This is nothing to do with latency or speed and it will happen.
That's why this won't work, unless people can tolerate this stuttering, which seems insane considering that "Playing games that look their best in 60 FPS!" is a selling point of the service.
tl;dr They can't buffer like Netflix, it will fail without buffering

>Goymers arent very forward thinking.
>Once we killed all our competition this will be a monopoloy

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Try running Steam Link in your home without ethernet and you’ll see just how incapable even 30 feet of WiFi is at handling streaming video and inputs in a low latency application.

Fuck the last mile problem, Stadia can’t solve the “last 30 feet from the router in the den to the TV in the living room” problem.

people who aren't in the tech industry like you are literally retared, you can't just wave a magical wand made out of google money and fix the lag, if it was so easy OnLive would be the norm already and guess what, it died

This.

It all hinges on people accepting a stuttery connection as "Good enough"
I've not used Steam Link but I've played around with Nvidia's alternative and even with that you can see artefacting in the video encoding. The idea that these games are going to look better than ever is hilarious to me when they look like Youtube videos instead. Rendered in 4k and then compressed and smeared together, destroying the fidelity. What's the point?

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>missing the point this hard
look at the poster he is replying to faggot

it's not really a concept, is it? theyre doing nothing new. It's just onlive. they're just trying to do what onlive did but better. onlive was actually when it worked. but stadia itself isn't particularly exciting. cloud gaming is we established. now google need to prove they can do it well

its already been tried countless times, it always resulted in failure and the only reason its being talked about is because google. It'll flop just like the others because the latency is shit, and I experienced it first hand when trying out googles "Project Stream" service last year.

You guys don't understand. There won't be any added latency in multiplayer games. We will finally be able to have physics based MMO.

>We will finally be able to have physics based MMO.
This is possible with conventional means. Just don't have random factors and do simple checks after both server and client both simulated the physics following the same algorithm.

There will be a ton of added latency in any multiplayer game, unless the developer is willing to completely buy into google's bullshit and develop the server-side code to be colocated with stadia (thus making it incompatible with anything else).

>google is going to rule the world through gamers because gamers refused to RISE UP so google took the opportunity
FUCK

because it's not using h264 anymore

you wot?

would it were so simple

>Why y'all hating
>y'all hating

Race and socio-economic background, please.

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sorry i skipped ahead in the conversation
basically where does it end if google builds the infrastructure to reliably have a latency-free MMO, and the entire world runs on the internet (it does already), then that would basically put google in charge of everything

>games feel unplayable sluggish at 50 ping
>someone wants me to deal with not only double that under the most ideal situations on earth, but also around a 50 ms lag on my inputs to register through a series of tubes as well

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"white" american of any background

to expensive desu

>thinking this will succeed when Steam exists
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>Massive imput lag
Bros... It's over... Before it even began...
How... Just how do we ever recover from this...

Fuck off /pol/

>say some naughty shit on Youtube
>Google suspends my account
>takes my entire game library with it

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The concept is not new and hardly fantastic. It's been done a decade ago by a company called OnLive. They didn't change the gaming world.
Google claims impossible performances over the inherently flawed and slow WiFi. Its live gameplay demonstration on stage was poor with a somewhat noticeable lag even at Google-grade ideal setup.

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I don't hate it. They can do what they want. I am completely uninterested in that kind of service though.

I also can't wait until Google breaks the laws of physics to bring us video game streaming.
This is the future!

im glad they dont actually moderate youtube or at least just yet

google plus even had a bunch of porn nigger KKK communities (though dead just like the rest of the platform)

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Why are you shilling Discord and itch.io?

That's not going to happen because while they might have the technology to make somewhat serviceable, Stadia as a product is designed very badly. They have no idea who the fuck they are selling it to, for one.

>assfucked
>fucking 4k 60fps???!!! Are you serious?
you're either a total drooling bugmen, a tranny from resetera or a dev who has no concern for the comsumers.
Either way, please consider ending your life by killing yourself or go back to the reddit/discord you crawled from.

Even before thinking of all the "pros' and cons of this thing, I'm just wary of a future for gaming in which Google might end up being a big player. Just watch how they fucked up YouTube for fuck sake, and all the shits that happen there non stop. How can anyone trust them? As service provider Google is utter trash, their are good only at gathering your private data.

>subscription
>input lag
>no modding
>games you like to play vanishing from the server because not enough people play them and Google doesn't want to pay to license them again ala Netflix, Hulu, etc

Google labia is gonna be free or basically free. $5 a month max. Unlimited gaymes.

If it cost any more, then the consumer has no reason to get it. For example, PSnow costs like $180 a year. Who dumb nigger retarded enough to pay that?
If the goal is making high end gaming affordable, paying $180 a year aint the way.

Yes, google will lose money on labia.
Yes, google will shut down labia once they realize they're losing money.

No nigger dumb enough to pay $17 a month. For $200 a year you can just get your own PC at best buy and put it on credit.
Not $17/mo
Not $15/mo
Not $12/mo
Not $10/mo
Not $8/mo

its free real estate

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don't you have a phone?

>plays gaydia
>level 59 in the midst of an endboss fight
>ip reset your connection for maintenance

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its gonna be more than 5$/mo and well all know it, ISP's will probably make stadia special packages too since the current american network infrastructure can't run it at more than 720p 30fps so you will have to pay a total of more than 20$/mo

>y'all
kill yourself

>nintendies so assblasted that they had to edit the image to make Sony look bad
SONYCHADS WIN AGAIN

>youtube image quality
not even, youtube has temporal compression
this is going to look even worse at the same bitrate because they've one less dimension to work with

Let me know when they allow modding, I'd like to see how much they'll fuck that up if they do.

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The sweet spot for google is ironically $5/mo

The higher it goes, the fewer people will be interested. Its gonna lose money and get canned one way or the other cause nobody at google apparently has foresight, so it really just comes down to how popular do they want it to be.

Cheap is more popular.

Man that card is so overkill for you. What a waste of money

even if they make it 5$/mo, the ISP argument is still valid so in the end even if the subscription itself is 5$/mo you end up paying more unless you wanna play games at 480p quality with 3 seconds of imput delay

Those babies really did a number on her, she should exercise and start taking better care of her skin before it is too late.

3 seconds is 3000ms

you can't solve physics, retard, you're going to have terrible input lag unless you're sitting on top of a network node placed right by their servers
distance=bad
it's that fucking simple

you know what I meant, don't try to derail the argument, its still gonna be 0.3 seconds+ with the current internet

Didnt you watch their keynote?
They want stadia clusters in each of their 7,540 server farms around the world.

It will cost a gorillion dollars but don't tell google that.

Remember Microsoft and their power of the cloud for Xbox One? When some parts of the game are displayed via hardware, and some parts are counted by the cloud server. This actually sounds reasonable, unlike full remote streaming feature.

The same where they had 100ms input lag with a server shoved up their ass? Yeah. Unplayable even with ideal conditions.

It's a chinese spying device disguised as a console.

>y'all
literally kill you'reself

Because America is a country cucked by third world tier internet. The only way they can justify this is a good library and reasonable bandwidth usage for sub-4K resolutions.

This is why Google as an ISP concerns me greatly. Sure you get high speeds, but at the cost of Google controlling your internet connection.

Who can afford internet capable of running 4k/60 streams but not a PC that can play at 4k/60?

True. I guess it basically boils down to price and library then. Like basically everything.

Don't worry, even under ideal circumstances you are still dealing with 150 ms lag minimum between input lag and moving everything back and forth on a big truck.

>reddit spacing
>gay rant
>fuck having kids

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people hating on from one to various reasons bellow:
>Live in America, freedom land, gets pissed by shit ISP
>A bit related to above, always online. Cant play during holocausts/nature fucking up stuff
>Pirates cant pirate newer games if it sets off, will have to stick to older games
>If certain games get stream only, if they stop getting supported its gg
>Some people are really balls in into model swapping and alikes
>Latency, this is the big deal i guess

I am big into using cheat engine any time a game annoys me or asks me to grind, fuck that shit.

digital games is one fucking thing, because most of them are easily backed up in some way
but STREAMING games/games as a service? dude, no, FUCK no

aside from that it's a straight up "oh, you don't live in an urban dystopian megalopolis shithole with fiber? get fucked then"

reminds me of when the xbone came out, US military guys overseas were asking about being able to use an xbone in sandbox countries where there was no Live service, and the MS rep gave a great "get fucked" in the form of "fortunately we have a product for you, it's called xbox 360"

The borrower is the slave to the loaner. It's a classic truism from the old testament.
It's like people want to waste all their money owning nothing.

Steam has really gotten a firm foot hold for any other company to step in. Hell, even Epic has no way to overpower Steam by this point. The only way Steam would fail is if Gabe Newell dies and someone completely incompetent steps in to fuck over Valve.

Is it even possible to have jewish gf without converting my religion? I've heard of marriages with parents having different beliefs though I wont be surprised if that is a rarity or will end in failure.

Because it's one step closer to big brother and that's scary.

Lots of things are possible when you aren't so effeminate you subserviate yourself to a woman's whims.

lmao nothing happens when he is hammering the buttons

How did he sync the same controller with multiple different devices?

How will Google package the Tachyons?

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>perfected seamless unavoidable ads
>perfected DRM which means they cloud itself would need to be hacked to pirate
And many more, what does this equal children.
A botnet. The mother of all botnets.

>game streaming
no we tried this years ago and it didn't work then and it still (largely) won't work now outside of yuppies and their pollution-ridden urban shitholes

KEK

>y'all

I hope you die OP

Google BTFO

This.

Google is good at testing stuff out, but they are also known for cutting their losses at the drop of a hat.

Because it has literally no advantage over having a PC/console in your home.

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youtube.com/watch?v=jRCGsZCYowg
a long watch but interesting.
many companies have wanted "game streaming" as a thing for years.
it is an interesting concept, never needing good hardware anyway worth 500-1000s of dollars, but the downside of streaming only platform is you have nothing once you stop paying for the service.

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I like owning games

Because PC buildan is fun.
Also it gives you more power. Want to illegally download some crappy jap game and patch it with an unofficial translation? Sure, why not.
Want to customize game files to make the game load faster (see ME2 loading animation fix) or improve performance (see DSfix)? It's possible.
Want to get your life together, stop playing vidya and do literally anything else? You have a powerful machine that can do whatever you want.

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It's just an Ouya but with the added downsides of Google's fantastic design choices.
Name literally a single reason for me to even look in the console's general direction.

Since almost everything is server-side options for cheating will be severely limited?

>you can't solve physics, retard
isn't it what they told the Wright brothers? anyway with enough money (and Google have enough money) they can just deploy an insane amount of servers, so it will be fast enough for at least 80% of the market, which is more than enough to dominate.

I love it when brainlets call other people retards.

So anti-cheat is the thing's only saving grace?
That's rough.

perhaps, but at the same time you're also playing the game ONLY with people who also own Stadia, which means every multiplayer game you play will have nobody with less than 200ms lag
Basically the "everyone is Brazil/Russia" experience

I don't hate it. I just don't see it taking off.

You either hate games, a casual or a fucking troll with that bait.

>isn't it what they told the Wright brothers?
no they didn't, when they presented their plane motorized flight was seen as an inevitability for a couple of decades already
the hurdles were not physics but rather engineering related

The only other upside I can think of is it makes games games accessable for people that don't own a gaming pc or console.

Yeah, that sounds pretty awful.

>SwoleBenji ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ
who the fuck?

What the fuck is Google's goal even supposed to be? I've yet to hear a single thing this console can do that doesn't just sound like a downgrade, or at best, something different that doesn't add anything to the experience.

I play fighting games

The overpriced PC is what was keeping obnoxious children out of my games. Making it more accessible to them will just put things on the same level as consoles.

how much is google paying you for this?