>MGS3 >based on Cold War >Literally has a female soldier called the Legendary Soldier and the Mother of Special Forces >invented CQC >regularly beat the shit out of Snake >took down a 6'7 giant in seconds with ease >literally gave birth in the middle of the battlefield, with bullets whizzing by >nobody cares
>BFV >based on WW2 >female soldier shows up in 2 minute trailer >this is historically inaccurate, muh womyn power, this is disrespectful to WW2, etc.
>Implying the ideological climate in 2005 was even close to 2017 >Implying that the Boss is just a stronk guoman put there for pandering to an audience and being PC >Implying that she's a mary sue >Implying that she's not a great character in and of itself >Implying Metal Gear 3 is not better than Water Feel
> One of the most well written & 10 most memorable games ever made that has remained a timeless masterpiece for nearly 15 years > Even remotely putting it in the same sentence as a Western game, when they are all fucking garbage, especially SJW kike shit that has no reason to exist Kill yourself Tranny
Lincoln Ross
>And magic doesn't exist either cause >nanomachines SON Parasites, you mean.
>implying battlefield was ever historically accurate
Juan Cook
BF was never historically accurate. BF 1942 featured weapons that either did not exist, were not used, or were seldom used. Great Britain should not have used a Bazooka for anti-tank weaponry or M1918A2 BAR (Browning), America should not have used the Lee Enfield No.IV Mk.I or the Lee Enfield No.IV Mk.I(T), the Soviet Union should not have used the Maschinenpistole 18 or the bazooka either. The M1A1 didn't even exist in 1942, the Sturmgewehr 44 did exist but was very seldom used until later, the Colt M1911A1 was only used by specialists. This isn't even including the obviously goofy shit like the jetpack.
BF1 did the same shit and had tons of prototypes/weapons that were never used or didn't exist, M1917 Carbine was almost never used, Hellriegel 1915 never used, Cei-Rigotti never used, Selbstlader 1906 never used, General Liu Rifle never used, etc. >these historical inaccuracies are okay >but these historical inaccuracies aren't, for arbitrary reasons
Anthony Bell
>Shitty gynocentric girl power feminism shit character Mary Sue Imagine typing this > Was disgusted with this feminism shit smearing Metal Gear And this
Doesn't change the fact that theres a stronk wymyn protag
Henry Carter
Main character =/= protagonist You really are dense, and your spaghetti is showing.
Jason Rogers
you kojimadrones love to damage control everything he does
>it's okay to false advertise playable characters in a sequel! >it's okay for there to be a strong female protagonist who kicks everyone's ass!
Easton Rivera
It all boils down to two things. One, a character being female, nigger or whatever is more likely to be loved if they're well written. Most of the sjw shit is just pandering, paper thin characters with no personality. The second is as people have said here that metal gear doesn't aim to be a retelling of history. Genderfield actively rewrites history and goes out of the way to downplay the accomplishments of whites in order to push their demented agenda.
Anthony Martin
Now listen to me. If you want to believe that I find absolutely every single decision made by Kojima to be the best thing to ever happen in the history of mankind, go ahead and be wrong. I enjoyed all the metal gear games, for a lot of reasons, but you are goddamn retarded if you think that a person enjoying something immediately makes him blind to all the flaws. Everything has flaws in the eyes of its detractos. The metal gear games have flaws. Metal gear 3 has flaws. But I do not believe that Big Boss being a woman counts as a flaw, especially because I do not believe it was included for the same reasons it would be included in a videogame nowadays, which is what caused the massive flamewar. Also, the internet nowadays is literally in everyone's pocket, release just a tweet away. 15 years ago you had to download shit on e-mule and the connections weren't great. Wireless controllers were not the norm and entertainment was enjoyed much more, because there were fewer distractions around, in terms of electronic devices and social media.
>it's okay for there to be a strong protagonist who kicks everyone's ass! Corrected.
And again. There is a very big difference between "character" and "publicity stunt". Look at this again in case your butthurt asshole still needs some steamy raping.
>>it's okay for there to be a strong female protagonist who kicks everyone's ass! I still hate Quiet and her arc because of this. >snake spares her despite her just trying to kill him >she immediately starts beating the shit out of his mercenaries whenever they so much as look at her wrong >knows about the parasites the entire time but says nothing and lets droves of people suffer and die painful deaths >despite the above, tries to ""save"" mother base by jamming a knife into a single infected DD soldier's mouth and slicing up his fucking teeth (and then goes back to ignoring the infection) >could kill anybody on mother base at any time easily and is effectively given free reign to do so, is only kept in a cell to prevent the soldiers rioting >leaves after months of cockteasing snake and accomplishing nothing else at all because the player is able to kill her so she can't actually do something in the story
>MGS3 >often stated that the legend of the Boss is has been idealized and overblown for propaganda, that the real Boss is a flawed person like everybody else >ends up dying at the hands of her pupil
>BFV >FUCK YEA YOU GO GIRL SLAY YASS QUEEN KILL EM NAZIS XDD BLEW THEM UP WEEEE >literally survives everything and ends up killings every Nazi in her way effortlessly
Only a fucking imbecile cant understand the difference
Austin Harris
there is a difference breaking immersion for the sake of gameplay is acceptable breaking immersion to rewrite history for some sob story isn't especially when the original story was wayyy better
MGS3 never said it was suppose to be historically accurate BF5 was marketed as "historically accurate"
Jace Edwards
Yeah, the plot in V was all over the goddamn place. If only it had been as good/entertaining as the gameplay
Ethan Watson
Females got into gaming for a political agenda man. They were never in it for the right reasons which is why women like Anita have purposefully ignored all the good representation women got in video games of the past.
Kevin Lee
The Boss is human, she has flaws. A SJW character's personality doesn't go past the color of their skin or their genitalia. I liked The Boss because she earned my respect, and isn't presented as woman any woman can be, she's exceptional. Eva could never be The Boss, SJW characters try to imply even the fattest most ugly ham planet of people can be super soldiers. The Boss is a good character first, and the fact that she is a woman was never an obstacle presented, which is something feminists always present, >"Oh she's a woman! We can beat her easily!" >Smug woman SJW Mary sue beats them in 3 seconds.
You can't compare the two. metal gear is set in it's own universe, it's not aimed at representing the cold war. bf fans were expecting an accurate depiction of ww2.
Ryan Howard
We had the exact thread today around noon. The basic gist was that the boss had her role around her womanhood as biological mother and metaphorical mother of spec ops. While the BFV woman was just off, comedically nonsensical.
Luke Phillips
There's a difference between making a developed character who just randomly happens to be female, and having a female character who has no personality outside of being a female, whose name is female, favorite color is female, religion is female, and they can't quit reminding you she's a female so that other females will feel "empowered." Same thing goes for gay or black characters.
Hunter Lopez
You can let these thing slide when there's a giant dude that shoots bullets from his hands while throwing lightnings, a guy that uses bees as weapons, and a literal ghost that speaks to you
Jayden Mitchell
MGS is all about using exceptional characters to propel other characters with reason to continue their stories.
Andrew Wood
Metal Gear Solid never pretends to be historically accurate.
Adam Cooper
I've always found it retarded that the Boss was a super speshul female soldier. Then again MGS3 had fucking great gameplay so I tend to let the story slide. Anyway it's no more retarded than a man shooting lightning, a man shooting bees, and a literal ghost existing.