Reminder to buy this game

>Yea Forums boycotts obsidian game not because of their track record of buggy shit but because it's on a certain store

>why cant all these people be one person

>small
>has two big companies behind it
>one of them from china that uses spyware
Wut?

Oh yes, the 'little guy' Epic games which runs the most popular game in existance

>all these epic shills
Fuck china

Fuck epic

When the hell did the Chinese start being able to spell English this good?

Why should I be upset about this?

Its just another client download; im not actually losing anything. The only actual reasons I've heard from people are that they can't leave user reviews (But im not a social media loving millenial so that doesn't bother me) and some racist nonsense about china.

Does Epic actually do anything bad or is this just outrage culture?

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Im going to buy the game on Epic Store now cause all these Valve drones are annoying as fuck

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>Is just another client getting my info, whats the big deal?
>btw I am not a millenial
Hmmm.

The political swing of this website was majority libertarian before the SJWs started pushing people towards the right.

>MOOOOOOM THEY ARE MAKING ME SET UP ANOTHER USER NAME AND PASSWORD FUCK THESE EPIC GUYS

>lists off steam key seller sites
LOL

I can see why you don't have a problem with spyware since you put all your info on facebook for everybody to see.

>Literally going into a fit of rage at the very notion of someone challenging Steam
>Steam
>The guys who do absolutely no gate keeping and let an unending tide of asset flip games in that you have to filter through
>Steam
>The guys who literally invented the "Early access" scam where devs claim their game is in early access for literal years
>Steam
>The fuckers who killed physical PC copies to the point that buying a boxed game in store only gets you a steam code in the box.

Why are you going up to bat for this company so hard?

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You aren't important retard, stop thinking anyone cares enough to spy on you

>Does Epic actually do anything bad or is this just outrage culture?
Apart from the fact that they’ve already admitted to injecting spyware into your system so it can harvest the data on your other game clients, it’s just a fundamentally more compromised platform. Tons of people have complained that their Epic accounts are constantly targeted by hackers trying to get into their profiles, and I’ve been pelted with hourly spam emails saying someone tried to get into mine. The only way to stop this is by either deleting your account or use the two-step authentication, and there’s no fucking way I’m giving the Chinese my phone number or any other personal information.

>more baseless assertions

So can you give me an actual reason or are we just going to continue the school yard talk you big stoopidy head

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>Why are you going up to bat for this company so hard?
The same could be said for you, shill. Nobody had any problem with GOG trying to share the same market with Steam because GOG isn’t trying to make last-minute exclusivity deals or selling out to China. Why only NOW are you people trying to make President Pooh proud by shitting on Steam 24/7?

not him but sure ill give you a reason this situation is fucked
even if valve gives devs a bigger cut, this wont stop epic from buying exclusives
epic doesnt exist to make valve better, and the consumers are the ones who are gonna get fucked here
i am not supporting exclusives on pc
paid dlcs on launch, microtrans. none of this shit would exist if people werent dumb retards with the principles of a child
oh and by the way if the game was both on steam and epic, and epic had a better client, id get it there

>reminder to buy this game
>Sellout Worlds is fucked, I don't support the communist state of China
...what?
Are you retarded?

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But im not going up to bat for anyone, I'm simply asking questions

Protip: Being Anti-Steam doesn't make you Pro-anything-else

How many again?

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>I’ve been pelted with hourly spam emails saying someone tried to get into mine.
Why isn't something like this being reported on anywhere?

Gog wasnt real competition, so we steam cucks are on with getting them stay. Buy epic is threatening or monopoly, and that cannot stand.

Ayo hol up, finna pirate 2 copies just to counteract your purchase. Your move.

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You are so dumb lol

>Does Epic actually do anything bad or is this just outrage culture?

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Steam keys are free for developers to make. Valve only gets a cut of games sold in the steam store.

That's ma boy.
Just give us all your information. Nothing to worry if you have nithing to hide, right?

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>insults me and doesnt respond to any of my points
imagine my shock

Sure now show me some of the steam keys that were used to acquire a game outside of steam

I'll wait.

>Literally going into a fit of rage at the very notion of someone challenging Steam
You fucks make it way too obvious that you just recently crossed the great firewall.

Not really a valid argument when Steam does the same thing. You're just a boomer whining about easily access info on the internet in general and nothing specifically related to this topic

Bro hurry and get off the internet and live in the forest! Your info is too important to be had by these companies trying to sell you games!

>No argument
>Better attribute him to a group I dont like

You argue like an SJW

>Not really a valid argument when Steam does the same thing
Prove it then. Show me that they do what Epic does in .

Says the steam chink

Im going to shill this game FOR FREE to everyone I know to counteract you. HA!

Why so upset? Iagree with you. If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear by giving everyone your information.

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And I'm gonna pirate it again and seed

>expects an argument when he didn't provide one himself
All those wasted english lessons...

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I did now do it yourself and quit crying retard

Maybe we should've invested a tiny bit more into education after all...

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>if you disagree with me you're a shill

can we vote shill to be the next filtered word now that it's lost meaning?

>poltard meets people with different views and opinions, gets confused and angry
>more at 11

businessinsider.com/steam-hacked-2011-11

K

Literally every other year Steam has a data leak or major hacker attack. Your info is no safer with them than anyone else. Again, you're a boomer whining that you live in a technological world and not actually contributing anything to the discussion. Anyone you give your info to is a risk of losing or selling that info

A low IQ move, my friend. I activate Seed Box, allowing me to endlessly seed the game.

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>over seven years ago
>meanwhile Epic had a bigger breach just 2 months ago
washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/01/16/major-bug-fortnite-gave-hackers-access-millions-player-accounts-researchers-say/?utm_term=.3c6c1ab5d46b

>still hasn't provided any proof that Steam does what Epic Store is doing
Thanks for the laugh I guess.

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>Devs get a better deal out of things and players are in no way negatively impacted
>Valve Drones: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ID RATHER THOSE FAMILIES STARVE TO FUCKING DEATH THEN HAVE TO SPEND 1 MINUTE TO DOWNLOAD ANOTHER LAUNCHER
>*Goes back to watching netflix*

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Not an argument

>that
>bigger

>players are in no way negatively impacted
>higher prices and less features

>and players are in no way negatively impacted
This is where you are blatantly lying.
We are affected because normally our data wouldn't have to leak to the Chinese government.

Yes, bigger. Good to see that you understand.

>Literally every other year Steam has a data leak or major hacker attack
I'm sure they're well documented and you can easily provide proof for that clime, right?

anyone have that image of the epic game store as the pirate bay store, I need it

Cope

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Reminder that Tencent owns 40% of Epic Games. It's spyware. I'll be gladly pirating this game.

>omits the date of the article
>it was over 3 years ago
>to justify the introduction of 2-way authentication
Loving every laugh. Yet you still haven't shown any proof that Steam does what Epic is doing in .

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I think you can also buy this one on the MS store. Not that it's much better.

Yep, we really should have...

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>I-it’s good for competition when a game developer makes an exclusive deal with a store

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What the fuck, they actually made it an Epic exclusive, when?

Time to fire up the ol' bittorrent client and work on my ratio, I guess.

Epic + Microsoft Store IIRC

>MONOPOLY
kek bases epic chinks paying for my copies

developers deciding to host their games on sites outside of steam isn't the same thing as epic straight up paying people for exclusivity.

It's less that I desperately want to use Steam and more that I really don't want to use the EGS, and especially since I'm being fucking forced.

Look, if Obsidian wanted to make a statement by putting it on GoG or some shit instead of Steam, I might actually even be okay with this. But I know that's not how it went down.

How fucked is it that Epic is touting this label of being "pro-developer" when both 4A and from what I've heard, Obsidian were forced into this deal without the actual teams ever hearing about it? How the fuck is that pro developer?

I feel very conflicted about the whole situation. In principle, I really respect what Epic is trying to do.
I think devs are underappreciated, in terms of the time and effort and money it takes to make a game, and the cut that digital distributors take eats into the profits they need to keep going (I'm thinking more of smaller devs, not Ubisoft or something). The fact that there is a company out there that wants to challenge the norm is fantastic, and I think that, regardless of Epic's practices, the dialogue they've started is super important.
That being said, the way they're handling the problem seems odd to me. The concept of exclusivity is inherently going to alienate a lot of people who don't want to be told how to consume. The whole culture around PC gaming is that its an open free-for-all, where you can get your game and play it however you want, more or less. These exclusivity deals shit all over that, which is troublesome. I don't have the Epic launcher, and I really don't want to download another client.

Yet, I guess if the goal is creating a better system for the devs to do their best work, maybe it's worth it to make such a big scene like this. Valve will definitely notice, that's for sure, and maybe it'll push them to get rid of all the shovelware on their store.

TL;DR - I don't like how Epic is going about things, but I like the outcome that they're aiming for. But I don't really care either way.

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Not an argument

>reminder to buy this game
>pic and post tells us to not buy it
Are you retarded?

tick tock steam drones
forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2019/03/20/no-steam-no-problem-metro-exodus-sells-huge-on-the-epic-store-epic-announces-new-exclusives/#609be1781123

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>Not an argument

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>maybe it'll push them to get rid of all the shovelware on their store.
Who decides what is and isn't "shovelware"? Where do you draw the line? How do you know a game nuked as "shovelware" by a random stranger employed by some company isn't a game you might have personally liked?

>Muh chinese boogeyman

Why is /pol/ suddenly so afraid of the chinks?

>LL sold 80k copies
>Exodus thus at best 200k
>LL Redux on steam sold 1.5 million copies
I love it when Epic thinks they have something good to report and it turns out it's just bullshit like everything else.

It's definitely a difficult distinction to make, but I think a great of the games I have in mind are pretty cut and dry; stuff like the King Bundle are obvious ripoffs of other games, which it would make sense for a legitimate store to jettison.

>TFW my physical copies got cucked by steam a decade ago
>Now Epic is using its Fornite bux to literally buy Steam's market share away from them
>My bitter fucking face when watching from the shadows while Gabe gets exactly what he had coming

Capitalism is a helluva drug

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>china
>communist
eeeeeeeeehhhhhhh.......................

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>LL Redux on steam sold 1.5 million copies
LOL that shit is free with the original

It fucking is, just google it retard. You don't need some MSM or gaymer journalism source, tons of people have complained about it.

Silence user, China is clearly an authoritarian communist shit hole where the living conditions are 100% bad across 100% of the nation and merely uttering the word freedom will see you publicly executed. My boomer daddy told me so

>just google something that you've never heard of
There's a fact that you should know. I'll give you no hints as to what it could possibly be. Now you need to google it in order to find it. What is it?

40% of Epic Games' shares are owned by Tencent.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Games

One of the board of directors at Epic Games is a Tencent employee. Rumor is there's a second.
crunchbase.com/person/li-wenlei#section-overview

>Tencent dominance of the Chinese market comes from its control of content discovery, user acquisition and distribution
technology.ihs.com/604579/wegames-global-release-illustrates-tencents-strategic-ambition-in-games-distribution

Why is this important? Tim Sweeney went on record saying he "takes no orders from Tencent." This is a facetious lie. 40% ownership of a company puts Tencent in a position of power to completely liquidate their assets and bring Epic Games to its knees if they wanted to. Tencent also has complete control of video game distribution in the Chinese market, only playing second to the Chinese government itself. This means that for Epic to have its games released in the largest market on the planet, they must adhere to the demands of Tencent's directors that have been planted at the top of Epic.

Also, the owner of Steam Spy is Sergey Galyonkin, who is also Epic Games' Head of Publishing in Eastern Europe.
gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-01-14-sergey-galyonkin-epic-games-store-courting-new-younger-audience

Let's also not forget that the Epic Games Store has been caught scanning every facet of your PC. No, not just your Steam's friends list - everything.
reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_game_store_spyware_tracking_and_you/

Tencent is no different from Huawei, a company backed by the Chinese government to dominate the western market it exists within, giving it complete and uncontested access to the private information of billions.

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>i think a great
Why should anyone read your writings?

Private and publicly traded companies aren't the same thing user, Tencent has no power over them and even if they did why should I care beyond racism?

*great deal of the games

>>The guys who do absolutely no gate keeping and let an unending tide of asset flip games in that you have to filter through
>>The guys who literally invented the "Early access" scam where devs claim their game is in early access for literal years
FREEDOM BAD
EXCLUSIVITY GOOD

Are you literally a Chinese shill?

>Tencent has no power over them
t. has absolutely no understanding of how much power shares actually give someone.

Again, Tencent could literally take those 40% of shares and liquidate them, annihilating Epic's value in one swoop. Let's also not forget that they have Tencent executives on the board of directors at Epic.

>If you oppose the thing I like you must support the thing I hate!

Chinese have never done nothing to me, I see no reason to hate them

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>Tencent has no power over them
>Own 40% of the business
>Are the gatekeepers to the Chinese market
>Have executives in the Epic board of directors

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tiananmen square massacre

>steam trannies being paid to post anti consumer propaganda

i totally unironically want all ouf you antiepicstore shitposter to go fuck of and die

Do share sources where Steam purchased the rights to exclusively sell specific video games and remove consumer choice, Hwang.

No one's going over because of the better cut. They're going over because epic is bribing their publishers to make them go on epic.

Cry more steam tranny

yeah, those sent to reviewers and streamers, not those sold on other platforms that get their keys from steam cheaper than end user, you fucktard

Man these Chinks are getting desperate, actually resorting to insults now instead of just "steam bad."

Butthurt steam trannies

>>higher prices and less features
could you please, prove it?
thanks

>how they selling out by taking a fat sack of cash to change what they do

Suck gabes dick some more tranny

Reminder to pirate this game.

>Literally has no idea how a company funcitons, just yells 40% meaninglessly into either not realizing what it actually means

Its hard to discuss games on Yea Forums when so many layman attempt to sound educated.

Yea Forums is full of retarded kids, who knew!

Facebook for instance let companies you "like" read into your private messages, it's not hard to imagine a situation in which this could be abused, retard.

>Their not going over to Epic because its more lucratively sound
>They are doing it because its more lucratively sound

Okay?

People just wants to held publishers accountable on their promises.

Not an argument.

having to make another fucking account and manage another fucking launcher negatively effects me

>Literally has no idea how a company functions and thinks a stock holder that owns 40% has no power
Elon Musk of Tesla owns 20% of his own company, he literally owns less than some of the board of directors. He still has a major sway in how Tesla operates, you fucking retard.

Thanks for proving the point.

Wrong. Valve only takes a cut of copies sold directly through Steam.

Shit devs can even sell the keys themselves through their website and pocket a whopping 100% of the money.

But its fine when steam does it right?

>TENCENT EMPLOYEES AS THE HEADS OF THE FUCKING COMPANY
>HE THINKS A COMPANY THAT OWNS 40% OF THE STOCKS HAS NO SWAY ON DECISION MAKING
YOU
ARE
A
DUMB
CUNT

So better stop using steam

>have an account
>don't want to make another
>but it's oaky becasue yo umade one before
Children argue like that. And even then only the really dumb ones.

It's full of steam drones who think valve is the same company it was 10 years ago

chinaman gets the bullet too

it was also fine when gog did it because they have some actually advantages and good things for consumers
ubisoft, ea, epic, all these faggots with their garbage launchers can suck my left nut. i just wont buy their shit.

>Publicly traded vs privately traded

Try again layman. And do it without invoking a literal meme lord this time

Epics business strategy of throwing several millions at every exclusive is not sustainable in the long run, and anyone relying on it continuing to happen is silly, especially once the fortnite cash flow stops.

Go back to watching netflix while you whine about account making you petulant child

Less features should be obvious (like controller remapping, in-home streaming or family sharing and many others).
As for lower prices, all you need to do is have a look at this screenshot and notice how not a single offer is on Epic while you can buy Steam keys for below MSRP already, despite the game releasing in 1 year. By the time release draws close, there'll be even more shops competing. The cheapest offer comes in at

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Dude, fortnite is fucking massive. Nothing that big fails. Dumb steam chink

Sir, Sony literally dominates the console market right now because of that strategy and not just with big named games. Small time shit show games were bought out as well.

>B-b-b-but its not FAIR

Welcome to Capitalism, when you have to go up against an industry juggernaut like Steam with a near monopoloy of the PC market. You have to have a winning strategy and as Gamers have proven. No matter how mad they get- they will still buy.

>He thinks public and private trading on stocks makes any difference in how much power someone gains the more they own
You do know publicly traded companies have meetings with their biggest stock owners to gauge ideas and make decisions, right? Like Nintendo of all companies makes this very apparent, showing how many stock holders want Nintendo to go into construction of all things.

You are actually retarded. I also love how you've constantly skirted around the fact that Tencent has employees on Epic's board of directors making decisions.

>spergs out just like a little dumb child

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>Steam with a near monopoloy of the PC market

No, it's not. Size has nothing to do with it.

>-y-y-y-y-you're just a stinky doo doo head

Anime posters just can't help themselves.

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lmao you have zero fucking understanding of stocks

>m-muh public trading!

they still get to put forward critique and make suggestions. companies don't just fucking ignore their investors.

Sony also has several other branches of business to support that sort of spending. Epic has fortnite. They don't have the number of fallbacks Sony has.

I’m a Libertarian and I am going to pirate The Outer Worlds. Epic already paid for my copy.

>gets called out
>doubles down and proves the point again
Loving every laugh

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You mean before the mass exodus of election tourist redditards decided to flood the site?

And UE. From which they get 5% from every game sold that usees it. Even if sold trough "BASED Steam". Guess Valve got simply out-fucking-businessed.

The xingjiang urukhai autonomous region.

I'd say folks were getting pushed right far before that. As far back as Anita and her "Feminazis' and the whole Gamer Gate debacle. Most Alt Right types have no strong convictions of their own beyond rejecting SJWs. If the Left managed to calm its shit down over night- the strong right wing presence in young folks as well as general care for politics would die off pretty quick

I'm bored but I don't have enough cancer in my brain to bait as an epicstore retard. Can just I have a couple of (you)s please?

No, you are just a Nazi incel who hates women
Stop talking sense

>drum up hype advertising game on steam
>rip it off and put it on epic
Thats fucked up. Not even in steams defense, if you did this with retailers you'd be shoring up fees on fees

I'll pirate, delete and pirate this again, at least a 1000 times via a script. That means the communist party will lose 60000 dollars in 2-3 days and you'll have no way to counter that.

Yeah, I actually liked the trailer but all my interest died with this epic store shit. Won't even bother pirating it.

People were getting pushed away, but it wasn't towards the right. I still called myself a liberal even though I disagreed with all the social justice shit. The alt-right just made people more comfortable in speaking out.

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>publishers get big fat bonuses after telling devs to cancel all their work on the Steam edition is pro-dev somehow
>getting your personal info sold to chinks is not a negative impact somehow

Mark my words. This game will flop and will mean the end of Obsidian.

If you were "pushed towards the right" because some indie dev was sleeping with shitty "games journalists" I got bad news for you user.

Again

>steam trannies
kek

Just like metro flopped right tranny?

M$ bought them last year. Since this one is published by some smaller publisher I doubt that M$ gives much of fuck at the end of the day for it.

Thanks friend! This spicy webm, my gift to you.

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>chinks can't into math
Now that is a suprise indeed.

Epic is a larger company than Valve, and is partially owned (and financially backed) by the largest video game company in the world.

Welp I stand by my previous statement. If I like I'll buy in a cheap Steam sale about 5 years from now.

>urukhai autonomous region

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