-The Genderlocked races thing speaks to toxic attitudes about gender that we, as a people, should have gotten over long ago, specifically about how so much of gender is wrapped up in wrongheaded views and fantasies of the cis hetereosexual men who still hold most of the power in most modern societies.
-Viera being kept as woman-only seems to be both a clear concession to male sexuality (Viera racial gear is clearly made with a straight male sexual gaze in mind, and Viera women are designed with supermodel bodies that appeal to a large section of stereotypical straight males) with a slight nod to gender roles (making male Viera who shared the female viera perchant for skimpy clothes and lithe sinuous bodies would make homophobic straight men uncomfortable).
-Hrothgar very clearly fulfill stereotypical straight cismale fantasies of being big buff powerlifter types. Strength and power over any other type of depiction of men.
-Hrothgar are also suspiciously underdeveloped compared to Viera. No examples in the trailer, and their models in their preview video are very obviously not created with the same care and attention to detail as the Viera examples we’ve seen, say, in the dancer reveal video. I’m not saying the Devs chickened out on male Viera and threw together Hrothgar as a very weird peace offering/attempt to deflect criticism at the last minute, but also, very obviously putting more work and care into the fetishy male-gaze lady-only race is a little much, don’t you think?
-The lore excuse holds no water. If the lore excuse was valid, we would have no playable WHMs (because the elementals only allow a small handful of people to become WHMs, and then mostly only Padjali), no playable BLMs (because BLMs are outlawed with extreme prejudice due to their affects on the land’s aether), no playable male miqote (because lore-wise, they are born at exponentially lower birth rates than miqote women), and no playable viera at all (because lore-wise, they never leave their forests other than a small handful of rebels and misfits. certainly not in large enough numbers to justify the thousands of lady viera that will be seen on the streets of our major hub cities soon enough). I could probably go on, but I’ll stop there. Point is, lore hasn’t stopped the dev team before, and even if the lore was rock solid here... Yoshi is the head designer. He could change it.
-The “We didn’t have time for both genders for both races” explanation doesn’t sit right with me either. It’s kind of like how in Dragon Age/Mass Effect we constantly learn that they were planning to add more gay/male-on-male romances but ran out of time. Even if that is true, what you chose to cut first says something about your values and priorities. IE, if you chose to cut a queer romance instead of a het romance, it says you got some heteronormativity issues at the least. And if, when faced with the inability to complete two new races, you keep both races, but cut the genders that least conform to standard modern gender roles instead of completing one race and cutting or delaying the other, it says you still have some pretty messed up views about gender. I would have much rather seen them cut one race and make two genders for the other, and it would make more sense to do so absent the gender issues obviously on display.
Evan Jackson
FAT MIQOTE.
I’m fat. I will probably always be fat. Call it genetics, call it social pressure, call it whatever you want, but the reasons for being fat are as many and varied as there are fat people. It is not simple for most of us to become not-fat, and we deserve care and consideration as human beings regardless of our body size, body type, or whether we are trying or even planning/wanting to become non-fat or not.
And yet, in popular culture, again and again, fat people are almost universally presented as little more than dopes or comic relief at best, and usually as gluttons and bad people. Fat people are often, or even usually bad, evil people who’s body size is either a punishment or an indication of a corrupt, greedy person who consumes and takes. Even good fat people are often small-minded and weak gluttons who talk of nothing but food, are picked on or made the butt of jokes because of their size, never get a spotlight or even a break, and are often shown as gluttonous to the point of actively endangering themselves and others in pursuit of more food.
That is not who we are. Fat people are fat for a variety of reasons. Fat people can be healthy or unhealthy. Fat people can be good or evil. And yet we always fall within a few negative stereotypes in fiction. And now FFXIV is carrying those forward, front and center on the main advertising for their new expansion.
Thomas Perry
And like, If devs don’t want to allocate resources to creating fat models for player races because of animation concerns or whatever, that’s one thing. It’s still speaks to your priorities that you think fat people aren’t worth animating, but at least we have some sort of explanation.
But the fact that the only time fat people get paraded out is as shorthand for greed and corruption is demoralizing at best, and speaks to a lack of understanding and compassion.
Fat people deserve to see heroic fat people. They deserve to see brave fat people. They deserve to see kind fat people. They deserve to see fat people of all walks of life, not just corrupt villains and lazy comic relief. I hope at the very least FFXIV’s devs realize this and give us fat people populating other villages and cities, being as visible and varied as thin people.
Isaac Young
Saged and hidden
Austin Nguyen
If fat people are so smart, why are they fat?
Christopher Diaz
Fujos, fags, and trannies eternally btfo'd.
Logan Davis
No one cares. Stop being a fat piece of shit and go outside. Who gives a fuck about gender locked characters.
its a fantas world here can absolutely be female or male only sex races.
Logan Sullivan
>I’m fat. I will probably always be fat. Call it genetics, call it social pressure, call it whatever you want, but the reasons for being fat are as many and varied as there are fat people. How about stop eating? You fat fuck.
Will there only be 2 classes this expansion or are people just mad that they can't ERP as dancer healers?
Hunter Turner
anyone remember the time when HWs and SBs benchmark cameout? maybe this one will let us test out bara cats
Ethan Taylor
They already fucking said they never want to add 3 jobs at once again.
Bentley Reyes
>said the same about races >said the same about adding jobs mid-patch lifecycle
Sebastian Gomez
They also said they never want to do gender locked races again, or release a new class mid expansion.
Brody Richardson
Im gay. If i ever picked this one up I'd play as a Viera. I think they're neat. 4/10 bait. Fuck you and such.
Landon Lewis
The "Viera are the last race we're adding" was an obvious "well there's no males what are they gonna do?" so it was either add males or add a male only race. Limited jobs are not the same as actual jobs.
Whoever wrote that article is right, just for the wrong reasons.
Grayson Green
>no male Viera >no female Ronso >Dancer is ranged DPS >Blue Mage is a shitty gimmick Man, I was looking forward to coming back to FFXIV with Shadowbringer, even with Blue Mage being fucking garbage, but I'm out. This shit's gay as hell.
Asher Reed
The official forum is even more hilarious to read today.
So why are they gender locked? It seems a lot of people want them to not be.
Sebastian Ross
Is anyone having issues with thread auto-update? I swear to god they're making this fucking feature more broken by the month.
Elijah Campbell
Smart =/ laziness. Look at donkeys in this regard.
Ethan Smith
Lore
Juan Thomas
Male Viera keeps themselves hidden from everyone and instead of making an explanation as to why they come out of hiding they decided to leave Viera as female only and made the Ronso a male only race so people wouldn't complain.
Luis Roberts
>they are just lazy to make male models! That's why they decided to model a completely different race, right? Because they are lazy and it's cheaper to do more work.
Daniel Sanchez
Probably taking page from Koreans and thinking male/female versions aren't worth their time. Like bothering with str/plate classes for female characters. Or ugly females for highly unplayed ogres and trolls.
Levi Hall
>but the reasons for being fat are as many and varied as there are fat people You eat more than you burn, literally the only reason anyone is ever fat.
Sebastian Jackson
>everything went better than expected fucking nice, I'll be a bunny dancer and murder people with my sick moves.
Well almost, the bigcatgirls from Bless deserve to be in a better game.
Angel Martin
Yeah its epic, vtmb2 threads are good too we are droping some hard redpills on them and they don't know what to do, just sperg out and cry when we drop the truth.
Kevin Lee
KILL ALL TRANNIES
Elijah Reyes
The idea can still apply. They could've planned to do both from the get go and cut corners on what they thought people wouldn't touch. Like female dwarves in wow.
Sebastian Price
They throw chakrams? Nice.
Michael Carter
Fuciking retards. They are gender locked because Square told them to cut corners. Its the same reason the 'new' beast tribe are just Lalafells. Haha fucking epic, get it! Lalafells! Its n-nothing to do with cutting corners and saving money, not at all!
Viera boys and liondykes would cost a raid tier.
Dylan Lee
And people thought I was meming when I said Dancer was DPS.
Julian Evans
>That's why they decided to model a completely different race, right >Roes with the lion pvp helm glued on Yeah I bet they had to pull an all nighter with that one.
Anyone have the comic with all the female races and the artist being dissappointed?
Henry Morales
>wanted a new Healer for tank/healer parity >knew Dancer was getting announced >wanted Dancer to be Healer >fucking adore chakrams and they look fantastic Bit of a mixed feel. DNC turned out perfectly and I'm already thinking about maiming it, but also I still want a new Healer.
Fat people are bad people by definition though. From any angle. In a capitalist and fascist environments it shows they are incapable of limiting and taking care of themselves, in socialist or communist it shows their willingness to eat more than their fair share. No matter what culture or political bias you belong to, gluttons are, by definition, bad people.
Jesus Christ they look so fucking bad lmao. Same with Viera. Amazing that people get invested in new races when only the base races are remotely acceptable, besides Roe.
Nope. Look it up on census and fflogs. BRD outweighs every DPS job in the game.
Camden Morgan
>want to discuss cool shit like Sin Eaters, the new zones, the potential of the new 8 man, ect. >all everyone wants to screech about is faggot fucking rabbits and furries
If they do its not like any amount of whining is going to change what's coming in Shadowbringers. They aren't going to be able to churn out the missing gender from each race in the limited time they have left. The soonest something like that could happen is the next expansion.
What are peoples issue with gender locked races? No one complained during XI. If people want to complain then be happy it isn't like tera which has gender AND race locked classes.
Austin Cooper
I don't care about the genderlock. I hate that yoship is trying to chase furfag money. This is disgraceful.
Mason Martinez
Version of this hrothar and a bunch of male viera fanart when?
Eli Bell
Hrothgar and Viera are both limited races. They can’t equip headgear (helmets, glasses, scarfs, goggles etc.) and they can only use their racial hairstyles due to the new unique “heads” that Hrothgar and Viera have.
Please look forward to it.
Isaac Scott
Imagine the type of person who would unironically play a male Viera, as in, a MALE character with fluffy bunny ears and all that gayness
you would think people would be happy we got something different instead of male elezen with bunny ears
Colton Murphy
I hate that you assholes are always false-flagging this shit.
Grayson Evans
Why is everything so... Limited now? First it was BLU... Now there’s limited races. There’s not even a new healer. What the fuck are SE doing? It’s not a fucking indie dev team for fucks sake. Everything in Shadowbringers feels so lazy and half-baked.
Jace Howard
>yfw a male Viera shows up in the storyline just to show the fags what they could have had
>Literally doubled down like a madman and made 'limited races' >They cant equip headgear visually at all
Nathan Allen
Fuck shit meme jobs Fuck shit meme races Fuck trannies, faggots, and girls that play healers
William Robinson
>was looking forward to fanfest to finally put an end to bunnyboy vs barafag shitposting >all it did was cause crying that will last until ShB release
Dominic Cooper
The Viera in the DNC preview video is wearing the AF ribbon.
Adam Stewart
Are trapfag being mad that they couldn't make bun boys?
Luis Lewis
No one is complaining because no one fucking plays XI you fuckwit.
Ian Rodriguez
He said you can wear some highly specific stuff for the job(s) themselves.
Aaron Lopez
We could’ve had a tank + healer + dps this expansion
We could’ve had a NORMAL Female & Male Viera race this expansion
But Yoshida fucked it all up
Aaron Bennett
Why can men wear gold saucer fishnet stocking outfits but not wedding dresses.
Cameron Wilson
This is true. But it only applies to people with a tiny bit of fat on their bodies.
Xavier Carter
How many people here were going to fantasia anyways?
YOU are part of the problem
Jeremiah Rodriguez
>Although the new race is characterized by the head in both of the two races, what happens to the head equipment?
Mr. Yoshida: It does not appear. Instead, I was able to implement the part of the NG face with the rule of "FFXIV" so far. Since it makes no sense to create a new kind of looks, this time, it is decided that the helm does not have to be covered, and no matter which helmet is equipped it will not be reflected in the graphic. Only the cover type system is supported by reshuffling (laughs).
>How about glasses?
Mr. Yoshida: Glasses are not reflected. I think that there is a part that can be dealt with little by little in the future, but it can not be done at the initial stage.
Why do people keep thinking he makes all the decisions?
David Wood
Based trannies standing up to the garbage of gender locked content
Brody Roberts
When did he said that? Did i miss the live letter?
Adrian Hall
Where was this shit stated? Because all we have to go off of is some faggot user in the last thread translating moon runes with no source. If this was a thing that existed, people on twitter, the forums, and Reddit would already be bitching.
I am so fucking happy Dancer is a Ranged DPS. I love Dancers in FF games and am not a big fan of healing but would be willing to learn to play one, but it being a playstyle I already like is great.
Isaac Hill
How would they make a healer that's not raw heals or shields?
Mason Campbell
Because he's literally in charge.
Grayson Price
>Everything in Shadowbringers feels so lazy and half-baked. you fucking faggots have been saying this since heavensward
Jaxon Peterson
It’s not like he’s the head of the FFXIV team or anything
Evan Bell
This is karma for people defending limited BLU.
Chase Peterson
men and women have different brain structures, different brain mass, and completely different musculature so even their hearts are different a man can never be a woman, a woman can never be a man trannies kys
Ayden Gomez
>No one wants to discuss the fates of alisae and alphinaud reeeeee
Ethan Wilson
>disgraceful >in a game full of literal pedo child race and cat girls/guys That's some low standard you got there m8
Xavier Jackson
>>all it did was cause crying that will last until ShB release Try, at least 2 years. Welcome to ShB shitposting.
Adrian Hall
The real question to ask is why the new male race isn't Bangaa
Nathaniel Bell
Theres a council of people. Being director of a game doesn't mean you can just point at someone and say "This is how it is." They lead the flow of things and coordinate people. They don't just boss people around solely based on his vision.
Justin Wright
Necromancer
Heals by using your own HP
Dylan Lewis
Make AST a pure HoT healer. Use their control of time to manipulate the HoTs. Example: speed up the tics of all HoTs on the target for fast recovery after tank busters.
Hudson Gonzalez
I am more upset over no female Hrothgar. Its another stereotype that beast-men can only be male.
The only reason I have seen that seems understandable is that Yoship specifically did away with gender locked races when he took over because he thought it was dumb and archaic but here he is putting it back in.
Nicholas King
There is nothing pedophile about lalafels, they all have adult faces.
Wyatt Wilson
You share my pain, I want to know more about the First races and their divergences (was there an Empire? Who filled the notThanalan power vacuum without Lalafells? Are the elves the new jews? Do we need another dragon holy war?) and these cunts can't stop thinking about rabbit dick
Because of how fucking lost the term gender even means anymore I'm fine with letting people delude themselves into fucking whatever since it's not my problem, but then I also think therefore we should start defining shit by sex as to prevent born-with-vaginas into thinking they should be able to bring their long ass line bullshit to born-with-penis' bathrooms as well since that IS my problem.
FFTRANNIES ON SUICIDE WATCH THIS IS NOT A DRILL FFTRANNIES ON SUICIDE WATCH THIS IS NOT A DRILL FFTRANNIES ON SUICIDE WATCH THIS IS NOT A DRILL FFTRANNIES ON SUICIDE WATCH THIS IS NOT A DRILL FFTRANNIES ON SUICIDE WATCH THIS IS NOT A DRILL FFTRANNIES ON SUICIDE WATCH THIS IS NOT A DRILL
David Thompson
>tranny suicide rate up 20% after fanfest >faggots are screeching and threatening to quit the game
based barabros unabashedly removing the tranny and faggot menace
>Google translate Post the original, I'll try to translate.
Dominic Stewart
>Its another stereotype that beast-men can only be male. It is a good stereotype. They're called beast-men not beast-women. People don't want female furries.
Josiah Hill
i think you have that backwards
Kevin Butler
Have you heard Lalas speaking? Niggas are more manly than Clint Eastwood
Something interesting to me: Thanalan is a desert because of the Calamity of Fire. If Ahm Araeng is an alternate Thanalan, then did the Calamity of Fire hit the First too? Have they all been hit by their versions of all the Calamities, not just the Source? In that case, what was their version of Dalamud given that they didn't have Allagans?
Jackson James
Someone translate moonrunes, google translate must be fucking up because this is ridiculous.
Ethan Cruz
BROS ITS NOT TOO LATE. "GAIA" HAS A HAMMER. YOSHI SAID THEY CANT JUST ADD A WEAPON TYPE WITHOUT A JOB. SHES A GEOMANCER.
Ian Martinez
>adult faces I nearly fell over in my seat laughing.
While that sounds true wouldn't he still have the power to veto anything he doesn't like personally for any reason? If he really hated something the dev team wanted to work on couldn't he just tell them to fuck off?
Jonathan Stewart
Ahm Araeng is an Ilsabard zone. It has regular aetherytes, the other zones have First Shard aetherytes.
Logan Watson
It's from a Yea Forums thread. It's accurate enough. The real thing to ask for is the source of this interview.
Kayden Gray
The salt Yoshi produced once again proves that he is indeed the greatest producer.
>I’m fat. I will probably always be fat. Call it genetics, call it social pressure, call it whatever you want, but the reasons for being fat are as many and varied as there are fat people. And yet they seem to be most common in countries where you can go down to Wal Mart and buy your weight in butter.
Almost like it relates to eating lots of shit.
Austin James
This desu. the animations look boring as hell also potatoes are super sexy
i gained a ton of weight back and now i am trying to fast but food tastes too good
Jacob Rogers
Good catch.
Wyatt Diaz
>Do we need another dragon holy war? fucking RETARD. dragons literally only exist on the source because Midgardsormr took his 7 children there fleeing Omega. The five headed dragon is in world of darkness because allagans threw him in or some shit.
Chase Gomez
No pastebin with new info?
Luke Long
>can finally play a chad lion rather than a twink faggot
female miqo’te now belong to hrothgar chads
Isaac Gutierrez
Goes to show how garbage this MMO community and the Yea Forumsposters here are when they care more about a Barbie dress up race than the actual gameplay and lore.
That literally happened with Lakshmi. Dev team wanted a MILF Yoshi-P wanted a College girl
Guess what we got?
Jason Sanders
nigger
Oliver Brooks
Toddlers are adults.
Dominic Rogers
>find FTP MMO on Steam >Has your generic fantasty races, Humans and Elves >But also has Rock Golems and tiny fat animal creatures >has some unique classes >released a new class based around wielding a giant fucking cannon >the only race allowed to be this class happens to be the race of bunny-human lolis
That's probably because we were shown no gameplay today and only hints at lore. People are discussing what was actually new.
Julian Martinez
more and more of the reveals are coming across as them just being lazy as shit watch as we get one dungeon per patch, a lazy copy paste of eureka with relics made by an intern in an afternoon and UHH WE DONT HAVE THE RESOURCES FOR THAT *LAUGHS AND PUTS MORE CONTENT ON MOGSTATION*
Christian Walker
So we’re pretty much going into the first which is alternate Eorzea right? Yoshi was saying how we’re going to see lots of old shit but it’s going to be new to us, now does this mean we’re getting all ARR zones basically revamped in the first? Or is it just going to be 5-6 new zones modeled after old Eorzea?
Samuel Williams
A thread ago I jokes about "unique heads" meaning they'll only be able to use their own unique hairstyles and not the previously released ones for all other races.
I'm going to be right aren't I?
Kayden Morgan
I am skinny because I don't enjoy the taste of food and eating always feels like a chore to me. I can go 15 hours without even thinking about eating at all. I am sorry that it is so hard for you user. Sometimes I wish food would taste as media portrays it as, I see commercials for food and I am just confused as to why a company would spend so much money advertising a product that has no appeal..
Kevin Kelly
>Was waiting to finally announce how the bunnies would look as males >Probably would go back to the game on this expansion release >Gender locked Fuck this!
because of faggots that bitch and whine and instead of giving them a unique bunny outfit, like a chippendale stripper one, they just got to cross dress thanks faggots!
wow what a crazy world we live in eh? Did you know that despite African Americans being only 13% of the population they commit about 40% - 50% of the violent? It really makes you think now doesn't it?
Yes. Lakeland is alternate Mor Dhona, Rak'tika is alternate Black Shroud, and fatcat town is alternate Limsa.
Colton Rodriguez
this is evidence that the viera and hrothgar should stay genderlocked
Kevin Ross
>when you take waifufaggotry so god damn far you end up wanting to become a woman yourself when will this meme end? why aren't psychologists/psychiatrists looking past through this bullshit?
Josiah Russell
My ESL ass tried to translate it manually. >新種族は2種族とも頭が特徴的ですが、頭装備はどうなりますか?
>吉田氏:表示されません。そのかわりに今までの「FFXIV」のルールではNGな顔のパーツを実装することができました。今回思い切ったルックスの新種族を作らなければ意味が無いので、ヘルムは被れなくていいと決めて、どのヘルメットを装備してもグラフィックには反映されません。ただ被り物系だけは首すげ替えで対応しています(笑)。 I translated it, here's what it means Q: The head parts of the two new races being so characteristic and special, how will head gear look on them? Yoshida: It will not be displayed at all. In exchange, we've implemented face features we weren't able to implement thus far. We decided that since we thoroughly designed these new races's looks, it should be fine if they did not equip helms, because then our work would have be meaningless if they could equip them. This means that no helmet will be displayed even if you equip it. That said, for caps and hats that you put on the head, we did basic support and just made them clip (laughs).
Carter Clark
But Male Miqote are also a thing. Which makes not having female ronso or we they are called dumb.
male viera are said to be omega NEETs that get adopted by the female villages and turned into breeding slaves im just gonna assume female hrothgar are pack leaders or some shit meaning theres less of them than males
Yea Forums is a bad measure for literally anything.
Joshua Hill
Are you ready for an entire expansion 2-3 years of
>New main hubs are literally old reused assets from a 2005 tech demo >New zones are literally the same ones we have in the normal world except with a tweest >New beast tribe is literally just normal Lalafell This entire expansion is fucking lazy
Tyler Hernandez
Even babies are too old for me.
Ryan Johnson
both races are iconic FF races, with these genders holding their iconic designs
giving us 2 genders for both races would require 4 new models instead of 2, which would require twice as much development with hundreds of new animations, audio and equipment tweaking. Gettin only one race with 2 genders would be less interesting than getting 2 different iconic ones.
>but sexual depiction of women is harmful this was never more than a very questionable theory on the same level as the "violent video games cause violence" one. People just don't dare to stand up and question this one in the fear of being accused as a misogynist
Brody Reed
Who the fuck knows. That fucker was proud of this, and proceed to never play the game he work on.
So then the sideways middle eastern city we saw in the first fanfest is either going to be ul’dah or fucking sil’dah since it doesn’t exist in the source.
Dominic Reyes
Long as I keep my Astro hat then.
Xavier Jenkins
Well any ARR zone will have to be heavily altered because they don't develop corridor zones anymore so they can't just copy paste them. They will probably compress all of a region into one zone so that will actually take a lot of work and be significantly differen't. Like all of upper lower and mid La Noscea being in a new zone is what I imagine it will look like.
They will probably have dancing stuff like how bard has music stuff
Wyatt Roberts
>Barachads get Ronso >Straight bros who love long legs and asses get Viera >Angry children who ruin the community are in eternal seethe mode Yoshi did it he saved XIV
Andrew Wood
i have went 7 days without food once, so i know i can do it. my goal is to live my life eating big meal a day. but food has always tasted so good. i can eat a large new york pizza pie by myself in like 15 minutes.
Parker Long
>Let's pretend that the new zones aren't the biggest and most detailed ones since they dropped 32 bit support >Let's pretend there's no other beast tribe being released >Let's pretend that I'm an armchair MMO developer that can do everything with unlimited man power, unlimited budget, unlimited shareholder time
The Hrothgar are very obviously cheaply made with low textures and absolutely shit models.
Adam Martinez
The new endgame hub is twice the size of Kugane and other world limsa doesn't have a severely reduced object limit like Stormblood zones do to accommodate 32-bit OC players.
Henry Thomas
Because asian mmo is always Beast Male/human girl female kind of thing. Female Miqote already exist so they aren't making a copy/paste job.
have they shown the feet of the playable viera in their default outfit. I want to know if they have heels like fran. I know Fran does in game but for some reason I just get this sinking feeling that they are flat, regular shoes in playable viera
Jackson Sanders
>newfags not recognizing fossilized pasta
Jayden Bell
that i can eat like that? it is a curse right now, but imagine i can turn that curse around into a blessing when i start really lifting. i'm gonna need that food
Thomas Rogers
There's a second question after the first that asks about glasses. Apparently "not at launch".
>final boss of ShB is Tanaka >Yoshi P finishes him off by stabbing him through heart and loudly proclaiming Eorzea is saved >trannies and twinkfags double suicide
the kino xpac
Jace Allen
Discord trannies on suicide wa- Oh wait, they're always on suicide watch! Hope this inspires a few more of them to drink bleach, all faggots and trannies must die.
Austin Lee
cringe
Joshua Mitchell
But the Hrothgar are for the barafags like myself. Not Male power fantasy
Blake Gonzalez
I wan to know this too. I main NIN ffs. If I can't at least where my AFIII mask I don't fucking care. I'm not Naruto running everywhere with my face showing. That's just stupid.
Ryan White
Fuck I missed it, sorry. Yeah, it's not working at launch, indeed.
Jeremiah Myers
Source for the helmets and glasses is in this thread
Source for the limited hairstyles is speculation based upon the fact that all the Hrothgar/Viera have used their own racial hairstyles only since we first saw them, they explicitly said in the keynote that they both have “unique heads” compared to Elezen or Miqo’te and lastly... If the new races can’t even use helmets how do you expect them to use old hairstyles too? The “new customization” options for Hrothgar/Viera are probably to make up for a lack of hairstyles
Isaac James
No, glasses aren't going to show either but it's something they may work on later
Ryan Perry
Yeah just keep protecting this tiny indie company with the second biggest sub MMO of all time. Yoshi everything is okay you can do no wrong!
Nathan Fisher
>Go to some other site looking for laughs >Hrothgar thread >It's 99% people complaining about no male bunnies Excellent.
Gender Locked races basically just means that Yoshi P can be really, really lazy when design new races cause 'haha here's the male and female version of these races just like the other ones'
Nathaniel Turner
That female Hrothgar is just Khajiit. That male Viera is just a highlander with that one face everyone uses and bunny ears.
Isaiah Diaz
If they are trannies wouldn't they play female characters, you know, something closer to what they imagine themself as? I mean the people who want to play male bunnies are either faggots or mommyfags.
Why does everyone in this thread suck at the game? Most of the people actively complaining about the game here don't even have current savage/extreme clears, they wear welfare gear, and they probably play alone too so all they do is AFK in town and use casual DF instead of PF.
>Are the elves the new jews? The Miqote are, or at least some of them. Going by the fact that not-La Noscea is one huge shantytown with not-limsa being home to the elites.
Bentley Lopez
Their racial outfit has heels like Fran, yes.
John Green
>trans npc >HELLO I USED TO BE CALLED SYMON
jesus christ
Joshua Jones
So the outfit was originally gender locked? A proper male variant would have been cool.
Caleb King
Why do Hrothgar's look like they spent maybe a day working on?
the hrothgar maybe, the buns, lol what, it looks like a highlander with bunny ears.
Adam Gray
I just want the hairstyles that you had to go through the trouble of unlockable.
Carson Cox
Now I understand why Yea Forums doesn't play together here. You niggas shitpost too much like a 13 year old that just discovered Yea Forums
Parker Howard
>Fat people are fat for a variety of reasons Yeah, like pizza, burgers, nuggets, cakes...
Adam Baker
>i cant be a big fucking monstrous ronso in full plate It's called Roegadyn
Angel Phillips
Keep being proud of being fat with you and all your fat enablers. When you get diabetes, you'll be changing your tune before too long.
Oh and b4 you accuse me of anything, I too made the mistake of being fat all my life and got dianetes so now I'm making a difference and losing weight, exercising more and eating healthier because I don't want to be wheelchair- bound when they cut off my legs.
So have fun being fat and listen to your stupid enablers. I'm sure they're secretly friends with doctors who will enjoy fleecing you for every cent you have for your medications, treatments and eventual operations.
Brayden Martinez
yeah it's kinda bullshit if a viera can't wear a hairstyle you blew 18,000 wolf marks on.
Nicholas Cooper
>tfw the FF was literally everything you wanted and more
Haven't been this pumped for ages. The salt is but garnish on the main dish of happiness.
>unlimited budget You mean like a certain other final fantasy game in development.
Isaiah Stewart
this game is trash but no muscular female lions is a shame, my dick wouldve loved it
Austin Perry
i wanna be a hulking retard cat with an axe, not mr. wide
Leo Lee
I just want to know the lore of WHY there aren't female Hrothgar I am disappointed with the "no males" when miqo'te males are meant to be just as rare, they're still IN ACTION and doing shit compared to the male Viera but making them playable feels just as off because there's meant to be way less comparatively to the females. But fine, I get the lore on it. Now give me the Hrothgar lore to explain why the females don't exist!
Joseph Butler
I thought you guys cum all over XI, they have gender lock too.
Isaac Barnes
trannies don’t like the vierra, they say their body type is not something that’s realistic by tyranny standards lmao
t. Tranny FC member has been bitching nonstop about female viera since Paris fanfest
Lincoln Mitchell
Can I use a script for buying housing to stalk it? Does SE care?
Juan Baker
But then I don't get the Ronso chest hair!
Ryder Baker
Dancer with gambler outfit in the saucer + card throwing.
Chase Powell
>b-b-but my brain says i'm a girl your brains fucking wrong
John Brooks
Because beast women are shit. SHIT
Bentley Hughes
what, have they SEEN the hank hill ass every female character in the game has to deal with because "muh pants clipping"
>Both of the new races will have characteristic heads, what does it mean for head gear? >Yoshida: It won't be displayed. Thanks to this, we can implement special facial features. Because it wouldn't make sense for us to create races that don't have original looks, we decided that it would be okay if the helmets didn't show. Whatever helmet you put on won't be graphically displayed. This will only apply to headgear that covers the head.
>And what about glasses? >Yoshida: Glasses won't appear either. For now we're gradually examinating if there are parts that can correspond.
Juan Harris
There's a mod for that
Gavin Edwards
This
>2 new races >Dancer is ranged dps with AST like benefits >gunblade tank >all the new zones look good >music is stellar >big titty goth gf villain for the new raid
Easton Kelly
>what, have they SEEN the hank hill ass every female character in the game has to deal with because "muh pants clipping" You could say this game is
so i want to be a viera, then i should wait till i get the expansion and then spend 10 dollars to change my character right?
Christian Nelson
The models are low effort. People would notice if male Viera looked like shit compared to the females so they made another low effort race instead to hide it.
Jeremiah Thomas
Damn, Shadowbringers went from a 90+ metacritic score to a 80 just because they didn't cater to fujos and they sexualize bunny women.
Nolan Cox
"Genderlocked" species actually exist irl, it's pretty interesting.
Alexander Morgan
OP is a male tranny loving faggot.
Kayden Ross
You can buy and apply Fantasia at any time and then just create a character when the patch drops or import it from benchmark if they do the same thing they did in Heavesnward.
Christopher Sanchez
Forgot the last phrase >We won't be finished for the beginning of the expansion.
Connor Perez
Or MGP Or Gil Or farmed for days in PotD/HoH Or got forbid, purchased off the mogstation.
Like, even if it's not identical styles, at least styles that are similar enough.
Henry Wright
We are living in a korean mmo. I'm literally shaking and dry heaving right now. I just broke down in tears. I honestly don't know what to say. How could this happen? This was good over evil and the villain won. I've been crying for 2 hours straight and my wife's kids thought someone died. I told them someone did... FFXIV. We've lost Male Vierra. I let out a scream of rage at the top of my lungs, literally panicking and hyperventilatiing. My wife's son's avatar Popatu emoted to me a paper bag to breath into, but it said made by SquareEnix so I threw it in the trash and told him to fuck off. I almost passed out from yelling so loud. I literally don't know what to do right now, my panic levels are reaching critical limits, and my mom threw away my prescription liquid hormones because she says they were driving me crazy. She preordered Shadowbringer. Why in the fucking fuck did this happen? I was told Male Vierra would be in, but then Yoshit stole this from our helpless little hands. This game company is so fucking corrupt and rigged. I can't deal with this outcome. I will be protesting on the streets and burning my own house down since its alarm system didn't work when it let these homophobes in my home. This is so fucked.
What do you mean? There's plenty of bara furry already out
Christopher Gonzalez
you edgy fedorashitters are cringe you are not fighting sjw bullshit, you are just shitposting, except you do this shit unironically.
Edgy little faggots like you are the reason why we are getting all this sjw shit shoved down our throats
Ian Hughes
I will never, ever sub to this game again. I simply do not want to be in the same game as people who unironically think this (I know you took this off the forums you massive faggot).
Xavier Brown
When do we usually get the full Opening song? I need this shit in my veins
I mean, it kind of makes sense. Looking at the Viera bodies, they probably hit too close to home. It's why they drift towards cats and lizards, they're something they'll never be.
Connor Peterson
FFXIV is literally getting worse and worse. Unironically Korean MMO tier
Hunter Long
>Trannies: WE WANT MALE VIERA >SE: "b-but...lore.." >Trannies: WE DON'T CARE JUST PUT THEM IN THE GAME >SE: "b-but then we would have to retcon our lore books, in-game text, cutscene..." >Trannies: REEESTOP BEING SEXIST SQUARE ENIX I'M A VIERA FAN AND I WANT VIERA MALES
You guys are retarded and keep getting your insults mixed up. Why would trannies want male Viera? Trannies play female only.
Gavin Gonzalez
>Can't have Amon's Hat on my Viera or Hrothgar because hats/helmets are hidden except some unique ones such as DNC AF.
LMFAOOOOOOOOO
Ryan Powell
TERA? yeah fuck those gooks honestly
Isaac Ortiz
Could you cite some? I'm legit curious.
Ryder Price
Face stuff like the alexandrian fending head better work on viera for the love of god
Colton Scott
>just Lalafells
Didn't they also announced the Nu Mou as a beast race last fanfest?
Adam Young
>People screech for BLU >It wont work >BLUUUUUU >Fine, limited job >People now screech for male viera in EU fanfest >It wont happen >BUNNY BOOOOOOOOOYS >Here, you get nothing you faggots When Will You Learn
Are you implying that the people against gender locks are just trap fetishists?
Michael Brown
Nu Mou, Sylph, and Dwarves are the ShB beast tribes.
Hudson Morris
I used to go on a discord-I don’t use the service anymore-and the gays didn’t even play the games they just spent literally dozens of hours in the character creators trying to make the males look as feminine as possible.
Bentley Collins
>people paying for your product want certain thing >halfass it >wtf this is halfassed >HEY U ASKED FOR IT When did Yea Forums become filled with reddit tier corporate dick sleeves?
Hunter Jenkins
Nu Mou and Pixies, yes. Only Pixies have a primal confirmed. I'm personally thinking the "dwarves are a beast tribe" is either a joke, and they won't ACTUALLY be one, or just a cruel twist of fate since Lalafells were the ones who decided "anything not "human" is a beast tribe.
Evan Martin
yeah it was actually relatively recent that they made it male too load of crap that they didn't just alter it for males it still would've been gay but not as bad if they just made the top a bow tie and the legs dress pants he'll I'd probably use that if I played a male char
Dylan Wright
Hats do work, just not headgear that covers the whole head like helmets
Landon Collins
>It's really hard to exercise >I know it's hard. But the question was, 'Are there people who can't lose weight?' and the answer to that is no
We complain about this shit with every MMO that does it, why should XIV get a pass?
Landon Anderson
Didn't male bunnies also exist, they just live separate from the females, too?
Charles Taylor
I dont care that the races are gender locked, I'm just mad that Hrothgar are just roes with a cat head. Why is Guild Wars 2 the only game to do beast races justice?
Alexander White
what does that have to do with trannies
Dominic King
This isn't FFX, if you weren't aware
Eli Powell
wait what did they confirm that they are just going to auto hide full face helms like that?
Liam Hernandez
they want a male character so they can make it look like a girl. just like them
Zachary Nguyen
They were dumb to make that lore in the first place. Never put a race with major gender differences in an MMO unless you are certain they will never be playable because people WILL complain.
Introducing a new race and three jobs in their first expac was a mistake. It only raised expectations for future expacs. They should've started slow.
Parker Powell
And this isn't FFT/12. So why make lore in a way that writes yourself into a corner in your own universe?
Brayden Jones
I WANT TO JIGGLE A FATQOTE I WANT TO SEE THEM BUSTING OUT OF THEIR SHISUI GLAMS
Austin Sullivan
>when the First's city turned out to be the city from the FF14 prototype.
That was so fucking clever. the place looks stunning
Nolan Hill
Charr look like shit though. I'm glad they took the Ronso route instead.
Christian Baker
because they're not going to put in monumental effort into a race that 2% of the playerbase at most are going to play.
Dylan Cook
but could you play with a female ronso in your party?
No
Aaron Nelson
>we
Nathaniel Roberts
>We Like, who exactly? In other MMOs people mainly criticize the Pve content, the gearing system, pvp, questing, leveling, etc. All of the above are kinda crap in FF14 but what really determines whether the game sinks or swims are male fucking rabbits.
No, trannies will usually actually just play females. I know one going Viera, and one who plays Au Ra. It's usually straight up girls who will do what you said.
Luke Flores
90% of the playerbase is utterly shit at the game and has no interest in PVE content past normal raids anyway.
Dominic Sanders
I don't know why they are bothering with Ultimate in the new expansion, hardly 5% do it.
Brody Lopez
Thunder god is a great way to see this in action. Even simon says is too much for the playerbase.
Ayden Garcia
Lmao, I knew once they said "unique head" there'd be a monkey paw catch. Christ, just makes me think they were rushed, and I'd unironically would prefer the clipping just to have the helmets show up.
That makes it even more funny. They still got blown out by some dumb cheap bullshit that was thrown together in 2 seconds. Talk about a punch to that used to be a dick.
Although the new race is characterized by the head in both of the two races, what happens to the head equipment?
Mr. Yoshida: It does not appear. Instead, I was able to implement the part of the NG face with the rule of "FFXIV" so far. Since it makes no sense to create a new kind of looks, this time, it is decided that the helm does not have to be covered, and no matter which helmet is equipped it will not be reflected in the graphic. Only the cover type system is supported by reshuffling (laughs).
--- How about glasses?
Mr. Yoshida: Glasses are not reflected. I think that there is a part that can be dealt with little by little in the future, but it can not be done at the initial stage.
Ayden Russell
Actually based for once. I disagree with those people, but if they can be used as leverage to force Yoshi's hand so be it.
Michael Powell
What the fuck do you mean unlikely you piece of shit, stop being so fucking new
Carson Turner
Is using an AutoHitKey script against ToS? Or more importantly, does anyone care?
Anthony Brown
Based
Jose Peterson
I just assumed the dwarves were chosen as to show the difference between the First and normal Eorzea.
Dominic Adams
>mfw going to use a fanta to go from fem sea wolf to delicious brown fem hellsguard with that resting bitch face
Never ever. Maybe we'll at least get that coat and hat one day.
Julian Johnson
It was a given, Viera and Hrothgar are just Elezen and Roegadyn with swappable heads similar to LOL dolls. It'll probably have them attempt head pieces for these races going forward from Shadowbringers but everything else is going to not be there.
Funny as that would be, it won't happen. Male viera are a playable option because Square can't be bothered to make them, same reason lions are male only, same reason the new beast tribe is literally just Lalafell.
Yes, also naming your character after a famous person or brand is against the ToS but they don't give a shit if you don't talk about it.
Kevin Butler
>Saving money by reusing an existing race >still make two other new beast races so they are wasting money.
I don't understand SE's strategy then.
Juan Wood
I don't know what this is meant to show me besides people who play waifus actually are the best players and thus he's wrong anyway.
Luke Kelly
to be honest it is a retarded trope
obviously there would be female orcs and male fairies and such too
Nathan Perez
>make 3 beast races >except one of them already has assets in form of player models so that's 1 you didn't have to make What's so hard, smartypants?
Josiah Nguyen
Yeah that was it, and im 100% sure anyone who played that race were little girls and pedophiles
Isaac Lee
Neat, stalking a plot and I wanna go watch a movie with my sister
Adrian Gray
FFXI purists >"Dancer should be healer" Fans of Tactics >"Dancer should be magical dps" People who wanted an evasion based class >"Dancer should be tank"
Male vieras, from what i remember were more hostile to the females? more agressive? that's why they dont live together and its rare to see them
Samuel Cruz
I mean, I guess it's my own fault. I've wanted a playable Beast Tribe since relaunch and I knew there'd be compromises if anything was ever made playable that wasn't just a human. I figured they'd at least do something similar to WoW (stretch textures, clip in certain areas, remove certain aspects), but I guess even that was too much. Ah well.
Julian Kelly
Little girls did not play TERA lmao. As do I, I think naming them a "beast tribe" is just a joke they used to transition into showing the differences between the worlds. Sure, they're SEEN as a beast tribe in the First, but we won't be getting them as a beast tribe faction like the Pixies and Nu Mou. My thoughts at least.
Landon Davis
WHERE ARE THE MALE FAIRIES STOP BEING SEXIST VIDEO GAME COMPANIES THIS IS LITERALLY 2 0 1 9
>could have been part of these numbers had I not been a fool and stayed in a static that was endlessly falling apart instead of accepting an offer to join a much better one because of a couple friendships I had within that static Guess I really fucked myself on that one.
Angel Sanders
I'd like the pixies to be ruled by a sole male type thing, named Oberon. That'd be nice.
William Howard
You must be blind.
Benjamin Bell
I wanted Dancer as a DPS, didn't care which.
Gavin Powell
>tfw play dunesfolk and literally don't give a shit about this drama
just skip to fucking may already and give me the real details
It's just pissy hyperbole user. We'll get the benchmark soon enough and then only the most retarded contrarians will keep bitching. Same people that always act like female miqo'te and female au ra are the same.
David Reed
The new Summon III for Scholars will be a male fairy. Please look forward to it.
Parker Evans
Yeah, I don't know where they're getting it. How does this look like a roe?
>trannies >femboys Trannies hate femboys though. Literally nothing makes them more livid than cute boys because it serves as a reminder of what they are not.
Zachary Bailey
why would trannies want to be femboys over actual women you people are more delusional than the trannies you're shitting on
Camden Brown
Because honestly they cant get away with THAT much. Not yet.
Colton Jones
>WHERE ARE THE MALE FAIRIES They'll be played Ronsos.
Isaiah Flores
They literally use the same skeleton and body model as Roegadyn. Go look again.
Henry Evans
I’m a femboy and don’t you ever dare to use Luffy for your shitposting again
Isaiah Flores
For me it was something like >people have been clamoring for a new healer, and it's not unlikely that we'll get one with gunbreaker being a tank >but dancer has never been a healer in past FF games >it could still be due to fan demand and FFXI-shit, with a debuff kind of twist like a reverse AST >mfw I woke up today to find it as a range dps Too bad for healers. The upside is that they can wear Amon's set.
Nah, they just flocked to the sexist angle because it makes it look like they have some kind of moral ground to stand on. They don't.
Logan Butler
Today is a victory for Hrothgar trannies everywhere.
Connor Harris
except the head piece because limited race.
Logan Brooks
Who's the best furry artist out there? I want to commission a drawing of my hrothgar character giving the barbed dick to all the salty trannies.
Jason Garcia
>he thinks dancer uses aiming and not scouting gear
Michael Robinson
actually I think the comment was about Rogue, being added before expansion followed by the 3 jobs in HW, but then again they did the same thing with BLU, if you want BLU to count
Ayden Cruz
Post more of those if you have it, I love em
Evan Gonzalez
>>but dancer has never been a healer in past FF games >>never
Ethan Hughes
See, you'd think that because that's logical, but trannies aren't logical.
Kayden Robinson
No XI purist thought it was gonna be a healer though. Maybe have A heal, like RDM but a full-blown healer? No. Heal they were the ones constantly telling everyone it wouldn't be one. I personally thought it'd be a melee dps ala NIN and share scouting gear and I still think it'll wear scouting gear too.
Tyler Brown
ABT
Alexander Walker
Their nose grew on me after all these years. They just look so elegant. The one fault I have for them is their chunky wrists. Well, flat butts and breasts not big enough too but that's just a problem for all races
Jayden Price
But don't they play female characters anyways?
Brody Sullivan
when do they charge us for preorders? is it not till its about to come out?
Depends on where you preordered from. If S-E themselves, you can process the order right now, it's an option. If Amazon, they charge the week of.
Elijah Torres
FFXIfags should just leave these threads, be ignored and forgotten desu.
John Phillips
Their nose and stature is sadly the only thing making them not just a green/brown human.
Alexander Gonzalez
considering that they literally added a nier automata event into the game, any and all lore arguments are completely irellevent. You cannot have it both ways. Either SE needs to stop shitting up the lore with shit or it can do w/e it wants. If they want gender locked classes thats their decision, but to hide behind lore because you have no balls is just disingenuous
I think YoshiP said in an interview some time back that male viera just didn't look the way they would've wanted them to, so that's their dev reason for it. The ingame reason has its own lore to explain the lack of male viera. The lore isn't the reason for no male viera, but an RP explanation in case anyone asks.
Isaiah Ward
>ranged dps is uninteresting >why are you adding an interesting new job to spice it up?
Christian Fisher
ANYONE have context what he's talking about?
Mason Watson
Why would a ranged dps not get the ranged dps set?
Jackson Jenkins
I love genderlocked classes. Gives the game more variety when it's only played by thirsty incels who would roll female on fucking everything.
Christian Reed
Naw, in FFXI they were never healers, they COULD heal but only to back up the main healer, they debuffed, buffed, and overall were really decent subs that made any main class be able to rely on itself. I don't know how they'll be in this game but it will pale in comparison to the freedom XI had.
William Reyes
Nigga that is very clearly a roe wearing that one lion helmet
Owen Hernandez
Races not classes retard
Zachary Bennett
Funny thing that leaks never talked about it being a healer. After some time for some reason it became an universal truth that dancer must be a healer.
Caleb Edwards
It's just going to end up like Tera or PSO2 where 90% of the population are lolis with thick thighs while the 10% are actual normal races or androids.
Carson Wright
Kind of my thoughts as well, most of it boils down to "muh dick".
