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Wow, who do we have to thank for this, Yea Forums?
Jonathan Smith
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Isaiah Watson
Is that because the playerbase is down 40%???
Christian Perez
the dwindling playerbase obviously
Connor Allen
The dying playerbase. You can't have toxic players without players.
Cameron Williams
>people leave the game because is boring shit/sjw
>less toxicity
Woah...
Lucas Mitchell
Meanwhile, player count is down 60%
Adrian Morales
So 40% of players quit? Not something you should brag about.
Blake Barnes
Jonathan Harris
The toxicity of Heroes of the Storm dropped even more because players dropped it
Carter Miller
junkrat is fucking huge when hes actually standing
Mason Morales
It's based on a % of interactions, not raw numbers, so playercount is irrelevant in this case
Robert Williams
>Nathan Grayson
Brody Hall
I'm glad Blizzard is getting toxicity down instead of improving the game. This is will help in the long run.
Ayden Wright
ok
Lucas White
>40-60%
I´d say it´s way more
Adrian Morris
>pretty much no one plays Overwatch anymore
>toxicity is down 40 %
So now pretty much 100 % of the Overwatch community is toxic
Bentley Mitchell
those numbers dont mean jackshit unless we know exactly what they include
Tyler Brown
>remove or restrict every single way for people to communicate
>toxicity is only down 40% instead of gone outright
Parker Mitchell
How do you quantify toxicity exactly and know it’s going down?
Logan Flores
Its not hard to reduce toxicity when your game is dying
Cameron Morales
>It's based on a % of interactions
Didn't people stop communicating due to it?
Andrew Harris
so you dont think that the decreased player base might have left only dedicated players?
and that those more dedicated players would troll less?
Zachary Green
the playerbase is down more than 60% tho
Juan Cooper
How do they determine some arbitrary percentage on something that's inconstant and indeterminable?
Landon Rivera
EATING SEEDS AS A PASTIME ACTIVITY
Colton Foster
The ancient art of faking it
Dominic Collins
based and serjpilled
Benjamin Carter
By counting the number of crybaby Reports and number of bans.
Everyone stupid enough to still be playing Overwatch now is like some sort of sweatshop worker afraid to say a word for fear of getting the whip. Who needs interaction in a team game? Just keep doing your job in the assembly line.
Ayden Butler
As population dwindles though that percentage increases far easier.
"Toxicity" might be down 40% but it's way easier to make that change in a playerbase of 10,000 than it is with 600,000.
Without numbers percentages don't mean that much.
Jayden Thompson
>and that those more dedicated players would troll less?
Have you ever played a popular online competitive shooter before?
It's the dedicated players (or rather, the ones that think they are) that are the saltiest motherfuckers. The ones that are tryhards but not successful with it.
The casual players don't care enough to get heated and shit talk people.
Adrian Butler
># of interactions not a result of # of players
you fucking retard
Joshua Cooper
overwatch has maybe 15-20k players concurrent at peak time, which barely puts it into steams top 20
nobody plays that trash game anymore, so not surprised here that "toxicity went down"
Samuel Turner
so 40% stopped saying gg ez?
Hudson Bailey
>durr how do % work
Jeremiah Cruz
i literally reported everyone who talked in Yea Forums lingo/memes :)
Connor Cox
Most of the cancer left to games like apex and fortnite, whatever has the curent hype train has the shittiest players on it.
Sebastian Richardson
And yet the actual content hasn’t gone up by much in the last 3 fucking years.
Good prioritizing Blizzard
Evan Miller
>gg ez
>Toxic
Fuck overwatch and fuck its community.
Dylan Clark
>overwatch has maybe 15-20k players concurrent at peak time
citation required
Bentley Johnson
Me. I did it. I'm gonna say 60% of the N word.
Josiah Harris
it takes about 10minutes to find a quickplay match on pc
Ayden Martinez
it's basic math retard
Logan Bennett
playerbase is also down by a larger margin,
Elijah Anderson
i would imagine interaction would go down when just about anything you say could get you reported for toxicity
Camden Long
how does one calculate toxicity?
Landon Allen
and player base by 90%
Daniel Long
math based on what?
Wyatt Thomas
numbers
holy shit you guys are retarded
math is based on numbers
Alexander Morgan
>10minutes to find a quickplay match on pc
That's fucking awful. Isn't 15-20k players an optimistic guess?
Connor Lee
Fuck that mentally ill tranny who ever start using 'toxicity' word applicable to gaming.
Brody Martin
You're a fucking retard.
Jordan Davis
I call people nigger and faggots all the time and no ban yet
Nathaniel Ramirez
How do you objectivly quantify that?
Zachary Walker
tf2 has 50k and you can find match in less than 10 seconds, 15-20k is VERY optimistic
Cameron Gutierrez
not for me
beside that, how do you get to the numbers of players?
Write down the calculus you made. I'm intrigued
Easton Myers
nigge?
William Rogers
WINKY FACE!
WINKY FACE!
WINKY FACE!
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Jordan Gonzalez
I'm guesting reports for toxicity, which would be a fairly good gauge
Asher Morales
show me your calculations boys
Christian Scott
Toxic doesn't mean anything, retards. It's the same shit as "problematic"
Brayden Barnes
saying "kys" is toxic
Samuel Watson
as long as devs continue to ignore the cause of toxicity, they'll never beat it, and the funny thing is they're the ones who caused it
Blake Edwards
>numbers
>which I won't show you
>just listen and believe
Alexander Rogers
It means being a wanker
Adrian Bailey
This is missing some key information, like what the fuck toxicity is and how they measure it. I also wouldn't be surprised if this has come at the cost of player interaction, I'm curious if they measured this as well.
Cooper Adams
see
Isaiah Foster
Im 100% sure its based purely on reports received
So the only conclusion you can come to the player base has dropped around 40% seeing as overwatch has one of the most insufferable playerbases ever, on par with dota2
Oliver Cook
And we only had to shed 60% of it's player base. Well done
Evan Hall
Kill yourself maybe
Joseph Johnson
Has there been a good online game where the playerbase is mostly toxic fucks? Dota 2 is, but you fucks hate that game.
You guys just love bringing games down huh? You freaks are just as worse as SJWs. And no I'm not from reddit or resetera or whateverthefuck you'll falseflag me for, but you idiots need to be called out for your demonic behaviors.
Kevin Torres
>toxicity down 40%
Just like playerbase
Grayson Williams
>weebs making shit up
who could have guessed
Christopher Adams
>what are percentages
Justin Perez
>Dota 2
>good game
Nathan Hall
?
Kevin Gomez
Well its the best dota-game on the market so yeah, if youre into that genre it objectively is good.
Owen Richardson
playerbase down 90%
those who are left dont care about the game theyre playing
Nicholas Hall
>reports received
That's not a good metric since it's not 100% honest plus it has the same problem with "toxicity" in general in that it is never properly defined. One persons toxic could be someone spamming STUPID NIGGER and another persons toxic could be not picking the correct character. Both of these things are obviously not the same and going on a crusade against "toxicity" is not an inherently good thing for the community or the game. It's always strange seeing companies boast about this shit.
Aiden Russell
It's ironic, you wouldn't understand....
Isaac Reyes
l4d 1 and 2
make one mistake and you get votekicked instantly
Ayden Moore
So what went wrong Yea Forums. Why is ow dead.
Jace Thompson
Match-making also killed server communities
I fucking hate modern gaming
Aaron Gutierrez
Didnt say it was a good metric, just telling you what I think its based off of. Unless somebody has a better theory
Cameron Anderson
>Our branch on the planet jupiter is up 8000%
I can't think of a more meaningless sentence
Jose Cook
ironic weeb? thats even worse, own up to your pedophilia instead of skirting around it
Grayson Richardson
so is blizzard and overwatch
Liam Perez
just a coincidence you toxic male shitlord!
Aaron Walker
That's a great metric. How users perceive toxicity is a constant across time. if you get fewer reports (in percentages) relative to the number of games played (or reports sent) then you've good a view on things.
Colton Powell
Paladins is a better game
David Miller
Their push to make OW an esport turned out to be a gigantic money-sink so they decided to cut their losses and left the playerbase to rot under horrific moderation
Jose Ramirez
NIGG
Joshua Robinson
youre a faggot
Angel Young
i miss dedicated servers
i would join the same server on CS 1.6 every day and meet same people it was like a small community i built friendships rivalries memories, it was truly an amazing time
now with matchmaking everyone might as well be NPC because ill never play with them again
Josiah Watson
Damn this image is incredible accurate. I'd say there are a few more 'types', but devs definitely created the toxic environment themselves by removing choice.
Levi Russell
On top of that it takes less than 0 seconds to join to community server, some ancient technology Blizzard forgot about.
Nicholas Martin
>implying dedicated servers dont exist anymore
uhh sweaty, maybe play something other than AAA games for once??
Bentley Williams
I don't think that's toxic, desu
Ian Barnes
>quantifying sentiment
>result is in line with their agenda
yeah ok fags
Benjamin Collins
Being toxic is one of the most enjoyable parts of multiplayer games. Why did sensitive faggots have to start playing games?
Jack Taylor
what would you recommend?
Joseph Allen
it's way buggier and less pretty but it's surprisingly balanced and the dev cycle it's one of the fastest i know.
they introduce OP shit all the time but they stomp that down pretty quickly
that gold refund for OB64 was also insane, now i have enough gold to buy any gameplay related thing for all eternity
Daniel Brooks
What is Dev obsession with pushing match making over server choice in big budget games now?
It's an understandable system for ranked, i can't personally think of a better way. But for everything else server choice makes everyone so much happier.
Robert Carter
Somehow every character in paladins feels op so in the end i guess no one is op. Makes every character fun to play with at least.
Jeremiah Lee
Reminds me of Quake Champions and Doom on the switch, there are so few people playing that everyone becomes ultra nice.
I find it funny how Doom at some points become dance parties when someone in your friendliest recognizes you.
Jaxon Gutierrez
Pretty much. Most of the players remaining are the "don't give a fuck" type, just lemme fucking shoot.
Luke Foster
I saw Lucio-ohs at Target and also some Genji Cheez-its at the convenience store. So there must be a fairly large playerbase being marketed towards, right?
Ethan Williams
except pip and old 6shooter buck
pip damage is laughable and his heals suck, especially compared to stuff like seris
old buck damage was completely non-existent and was only fun for roughly 2 weeks where he could doublejump with the talent.
Dylan Ramirez
>company says product is better
Connor Ross
Bitch, I just played a Radiance cold snap invoker rush.
Your argument is surprisingly good, DotA is a game about being a complete asshole to everyone and somehow win under those conditions, it's beautiful.
Bitch, it's a great game if you want to ruin someone else's day and find other four fuckers trying to do the same to you. Pitted against 5 fuckers doing it to each other and trying to get you to win.
How can you not love it?
Chase Garcia
we could get jeff fired but we can only dream
Cooper Fisher
It's a mix of laziness and infantilizing the user base
Cooper Powell
OW has both though, most people just like the convenience of having it done automatically.
Hudson Cox
>most people stopped giving a fuck due to meta fuck ups and barely any new content coming out
>all the most dedicated ended up being banned for the shittiest 'offenses'
>what's left are 12yo console players
no shit, most of them don't even know how to use a mic
Jose Fisher
That's the smaller problem here, the biggest is these people will never EVER improve.
Before tranny-era:
>I suck at the game and I hate I'm being reminded about it. This makes me want to be a better player since I'm constantly called out, or approach the game more casually on another server, or simply quit.
After tranny-era:
>I suck at the game and I hate I'm being reminded about it. I'll bitch about toxic players who want to win, and they'll get banned by based devs. I'm not going to improve whatsoever because I don't need to, the game itself protects me and gives me a safe space, it is made by a way to protect me so I don't get any kind of stimuli to get better and I'll forever play with another bad players while I delude myself into being good up until a toxic troll tells me I suck but he'll be banned anyway.
Xavier Williams
Michael Hughes
I don’t understand things: The post
Isaac Carter
I like finding other D.va's to say voice lines with.
Jack Thompson
>make a game
>focus on nothing but esports
>wow why is my game dying?
Hunter Perry
he's right, you know.
Luke Rodriguez
if only
Samuel Cook
>still hasn't been hired to cover something heavier than the bottom-of-the-barrel vidya shit
how is that even possible?
Adam Sanchez
It's simple. We must delete /pol/
Benjamin Jackson
Umberto Eco was right
Nathaniel Hernandez
>muh goobergate
Parker Russell
fucking fpbp
and probably even more..
Zachary Hall
And then having them spillover on my hobbies? Fuck you /pol/ is a containment board, don't open the autism floodgates.
Ryder Peterson
That guy who wrote it looks like he is a söy based life form.
Jack Bennett
or you yourself
Ryder Powell
Containment boards never, ever worked.
Lincoln Bailey
>40%
Eli Hernandez
>Ban everyone who is 'toxic'
>Everyone who is 'toxic' quits because its boring
>The only people who remain are the blizzdrone circlejerks who think overwatch is somehow fun
Dominic Peterson
The people have no self-awareness.
John Thompson
So why am I not seeing constant LoL generals, MLP and Pokemon threads on Yea Forums? Dumb newfag you have no idea what you're talking about.
Chase White
Because the toxic players are the ones who most zealously play the game, the people who enjoy the game the most.
And now that they're leaving, OW is pretty much dead.
Jack Thomas
Oh but they did and still do. Wonder why Yea Forums wasn't pure Pokemans when Sword and Shield got announced?
Contained.
Luis Hernandez
kek
Christopher Perez
user, the people who are salty and get angry are the dedicated players.
"toxic" doesn't mean "trolling" it means playing to win.
Isaiah Thompson
>LoL
Dead game, retard
>MLP
Dead show, retard
>Pokemon
Not Yea Forums but /trash/, retard
Also, there are constant pokegirl pedoshitthreads on Yea Forums
Ayden Gutierrez
Here's a hint: Before you started browsing Yea Forums and grew pubes those things weren't dead and there was a reason their containments boards were made, and they worked. You dumb fuck.
Jackson Jones
>i-i-it worked in the past! you just weren't there!
Sure thing, electiontard
Chase Richardson
Literally first thing that comes to mind
Wyatt Diaz
/pol/ is the containment board of the fucking internet. Close it and see this fucker spill their autism everywhere.
As someone that worked in a suicide line let me tell you that it is higher than 40.
Money was a sick bastard and his degeneracy ruined a lot of people's lives.
But apparently it isn't PC to talk about how much money the tranny industry makes out of poor people that are often bad at socializing or try to find a quick way to love themselves, as a society we failed them.
Jack Stewart
Toxic this bigot that, I'm so fucking sick of sjw snowflake niggers and their buzzwords
I hope a fucking giant asteroid blow up this shithole because fuck this gay earth
Jordan Long
Why even bother to continue arguing when you clearly don't have a leg to stand on? Pathetic.
Justin Scott
>Close it and see this fucker spill their autism everywhere.
For a tiny moment, then it would congregate away from Yea Forums and plague other shitholes.
/pol/ was the biggest mistake of Yea Forums.
Adrian Brooks
>classify 8276 new forms of toxicity in your big book of rules
>suddenly see toxicity everywhere!
>ban everyone
>toxity down!
fuckin great job blizz truly wonderful how did you do it
Kayden Bailey
LMAO that projection and hypocrisy
Joseph Miller
An overflow for an existing board is different from a new board altogether. Without /pol/ or /new/ there might be a few more offtopic current event threads on other boards but you can guarantee the majority would flee to cripplechan
Grayson Moore
Or stay here to spite shits like you
Lucas Taylor
Literally this
Justin Powell
Not that user, but anything older with a dedicated community.
Jason Carter
These people are mentally ill.
Oliver Thompson
>For a tiny moment, then it would congregate away from Yea Forums and plague other shitholes.
I don't think you understand how that place works, it's a hurtbox.
They crave that rush of making everything go full retard, give them time and they start to make others think like them and the other places become a hurtbox as well.
>/pol/ was the biggest mistake of Yea Forums.
I think that shit kinda saved other boards from becoming full miasma cesspools, if I'm honest /pol/ was the biggest issue when experiencing the /can/ effect in wich discussing a topic offboard always yields good results, without /pol/ as a container those board jumping attempts always ended in pure degeneracy.
Thomas Cooper
>everyone might as well be NPC because ill never play with them again
There you go, one of the reasons why these companies do this.
The other one is giving players 0 info on how many servers and people are currently playing,
Xavier Thomas
There is no "overflow", just because the whole board isn't full of leftists doesn't mean /pol/ is invading you constantly, it means that people on Yea Forums have different political opinions. Stop trying to make Yea Forums your hugbox you pathetic baby.
Christian Diaz
And L'oreal says their shampoo will make your hair 96% stronger.
Fake percentages with no reference point are marketing 101.
Dominic Hall
NOOOOO MODSOMDMSOMDOSMDOSMDOS NO POLITICS IN MY VIDEO GAMES (unless its leftist propaganda of course) /POL/ GTFOOOOOOO HIRO DELETE /POL/ NOW SAVE ME MODS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Jack Gomez
cause everyone quit
Robert Lopez
yeah, i remember all those days when i played TF2 and all those people wanted my contact info so they could send me neonazi pamphlets
Christopher Smith
Reminder that Blizzard doesn't reveal player count for a reason.
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But also
>google trends for overxatch is taking anose dive
>twitch numbers lower than ever
>takes longer and longer to find a match
Yes, overwatch is dead, or at least, dying the painful death it deserves.
Colton James
>I think that shit kinda saved other boards from becoming full miasma cesspools
No evidence for this claim. So far we have:
>before /pol/, the level of /pol/tardation was lower and it was mostly ironic
>/pol/ was actually psyop'd by stormfront
>during 8gag exodus, moronic /pol/tardation on all boards dropped - especially on /pol/ itself
>furries, which were /pol/ before /pol/ was a thing, somehow didn't infest every single board when their requests for a containment board were denied
So far everything points in the direction of "/pol/ doesn't contain, it's just a pile of shit that attracts flies to nearby area".
Blake Taylor
>No evidence for this claim.
>but here's my claims with no evidence, which are obviously true, because i made them
i'll go with yikes on this one, bro
Michael Edwards
>the aussie manlet virgin
>the alpha Cop Chad
Jaxon Collins
>Of course I'm not saying video games cause real world violence.
>But video games do cause people to become neonazis.
Fuck me, did a video game kill his family or something?
Aaron Clark
Cope harder
Jack Cook
>le -50 face
Logan James
This is one of the stupidest posts I've read on Yea Forums in a while, congratulations.
Parker Jones
>oh shit my dumb argument got exposed, deflect!
ahem
WIENER
Logan Johnson
FPBP
Isaac Wood
>yfw you are the Holocoaster-Tycoon
Robert Sanchez
>you can't have toxic players if you have no players
200IQ strategy here
Tyler Ward
Your anxious finger-wringing butthurt and lack of arguments is the best proof that I'm right you could offer.
Ian Gomez
I'm probably not making my point very well. I'm suggesting that removing /pol/ and /new/ would create a small increase in the number of OT politic threads on Yea Forums and other high traffic boards, but reduce the overall population of nazi larpers on Yea Forums. Which is to say that more boards might result in less off topic but also invite more people that otherwise wouldn't post on Yea Forums, to post on Yea Forums
Caleb Reed
>Enter 2Fort
>Say "Hey guys" as I spray an explicit hentai poster of a guy fucking a house cat down in front of the spawn point.
>"Hey xXx_Weedslayer420_xXx, do you have a moment to talk about our lord and saviour Hitler?"
Those were the days.
Sebastian Sanchez
>your arguments are without proof
>so here's my arguments without proof
>so your arguments have no proof, that's dumb
>that proves i'm right!
lel
Owen Harris
>would create a small increase in the number of OT politic threads
>might result in less off topic
do what? also
> invite more people that otherwise wouldn't post on Yea Forums, to post on Yea Forums
why dont' they post on Yea Forums now? are they afraid some people might disagree with them?
Xavier Wilson
>Let me just start up my Sega Genocidis
Liam Ward
>but also invite more people that otherwise wouldn't post on Yea Forums, to post on Yea Forums
Joshua Martinez
If you're anti-/pol/ you don't belong on Yea Forums.
Charles Lopez
Jayden Gray
Dude, you just went full retard.
Furties always embraced liberal ideas since fucking funny animals was a thing.
The only reason you think furries were /pol/ is that they were arguing with proto pol right wing retards.
Now you have a bias towards right wing ideologies but your hate of furries still burns bright, hence why you associate them.
Furries are liberals by default.
The only reason Nazi larpers exist is because you feed them attention.
Lincoln James
>tfw experienced almost zero toxicity from my hundreds of hours in comp between bronze to plat
If anything I was the negative on a few occasions but I almost never ran into people being actually "toxic". Sure maybe some ggez's here or there or some ribbing to each other but I don't know. Nothing ever took me aback.
Ryder Gonzalez
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Easton Collins
THE TOXICITY OF OUR CITY
Ayden Adams
>Furries are liberals by default.
Let's see:
>annoying
>ruin everything they touch
>go everywhere they aren't wanted
>kicking them out is a lot of effort
>allowing few of them in always results in the entire horde aggroing
So far all of this describes both furries and /pol/.
Furries are /pol/, /pol/ is furries.
Hudson Scott
"Toxic" is a buzzword that mean absolutely anything and has no value when describing someones behavior.
Nathan Richardson
>queen of spades tattoo
Based.
Logan Bell
God he is ridiculously short isn't he. Fucking manlets.
Bentley Cruz
Good description of liberals there, but it has nothing to do with /pol/.
Xavier Green
People you don't like are Nazis.
Spoken like a true libtard.
Logan Edwards
NUMBERSNUMBERSNUMBERSNUMBERS
William Davis
>>But apparently it isn't PC to talk about how much money the tranny industry makes out of poor people
I'm out of the loop, elaborate.
Alexander Sullivan
if you think this isn't true, how come gamergate did radicalize a large number of young impressionable people?
Kevin Lopez
>Overwatch toxicity is down 40%
And so is the playerbase.
Hudson Sanders
B8 And b&
Ethan Rogers
You can't blame gamergate for what their opponents became.
Jose Price
i wish OW porrn is up by 40%
i need more symmetra and ana
Ayden Jackson
>male
Zachary Fisher
[Cope intensifies]
Elijah Parker
>eating seed
gay
John Garcia
The medicine and surgery that trannies get costs a lot of money. 20K burgerbucks easily.
Gabriel Nguyen
Their opponents?
What did they become and why is this relevant?
You need to keep in mind that the people publicly supporting gamergate who had a platform were largely the "skeptics", Breitbart and friends. Obviously the people who are invested in this garbage will flock to them and they will use this to radicalize people to ensure their continued patronage. It's just good old social capitalism at work here.
Ian Kelly
>maybe some ggez's here
>toxic
come the fuck on
Nathaniel Anderson
Makes sense, no idea why I couldn't think of that.
Ethan White
>invite more people that otherwise wouldn't post on Yea Forums, to post on Yea Forums
The entire problem you are describing are the people who otherwise wouldn't post on Yea Forums posting on Yea Forums. The 2016 election and gamergate are responsible for this, they brought droves of impressionable people from god knows where here, who then took all the blatant propaganda to heart and start shitting up everything.
Levi Young
Certain pharmaceutical groups actually lobby on this shit and get payment from insurance companies on quite a big scale.
They are profiting on the transexual fad and hiding the damage it does to young adults.
Look at furry history, they are liberals.
You are quite a weak individual to not realize how fucked up your ideas are and how much of s joke you are to the entire world.
Hudson Cook
Can't have "toxicity" if you don't have players.
Dylan Flores
>n-no, don't delete /pol/ i need my safe space AAAAAHHHHHHHH
Cooper Davis
So the toxic players left?
Joseph Turner
liberalism is incompatible with criticizing capitalism.
Caleb Ortiz
>Certain pharmaceutical groups actually lobby on this shit and get payment from insurance companies on quite a big scale.
I'm stupid, how does insurance companies factor into this?
Daniel Nguyen
Forcibly removed
Thomas Ward
You know, how a large number of journalists who opposed them turned out to be sex fiends and corrupt. Seems really strange how that keeps happening and happening. Almost like they had some kind of reason to oppose gamergate, like how honest journalism would lead to them getting exposed sooner.
But, you seem to have a lot of evidence that gamergate somehow radicalised young people. I'm sure you have something to back it all up. It's not like you mindlessly listened to what the newspapers, journalists and media said without doing some research for yourself. If someone is being criticised for being corrupt and lying, you should take them and their friends opinions about it at face value.
Christopher Thompson
>i-it's not a safe space! we have nu-nazis, nationalist socialists, national traditionalists, traditionalist nationalists, national nationalists and pedophiles! there's plenty of disagreement!
Jaxson James
But capitalism at it's core is based upon the market, which inherently encourages criticism because it creates demand for competition. Wouldn't that mean Liberalism isn't actually supporting capitalism healthy and just ruining it?
Nathan Morales
>delete /pol/
asking for it.
Michael Nelson
>You are quite a weak individual to not realize how fucked up your ideas are and how much of s joke you are to the entire world.
the fucking irony of this post
Joshua Cox
How is saying "be a tranny for all I care" bad for the market, you need to explain this. I'd it's good for the free market, because new products become viable to sell.
Nathan Kelly
Still can't believe we live in a world that thinks Nazis are actually around outside of the 0.00001% fringe nut bars that barely do anything ever
Robert Young
Read the post I quoted.
Liam Mitchell
>he wants the same shitstorm happen again
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Benjamin Martin
>I'd it's good for the free market, because new products become viable to sell.
ahy are new products good for a free market? you can have a free market without anything being new.
Sebastian Howard
came here wanting to post this
Jack Foster
You might want to do research on banking and debt, but let's say this insurance haven is very lucrative for the pharmaceutical industry and is often paid by a welfare state.
Let's not forget that most hormones were banned in cattle recently and how a new line of production was assembled for human consumption almost as fast as the movement started.
This is disgusting mate, they are literally selling a placebo to the people and misdiagnosed most of the people to put them on treatment with high cost on the final operation and little chances of it backfiring given that most suicide by the fourth year without getting legal action.
Heck the few that seeked legal action were accused of being mentally ill and thus unable to fight back the machine. I'm not silencing you, nor discrediting you. You are the fascist in this situation.
When everyone is a Nazi no one is.
Anthony Reed
if you sell 2 different products to five people you make less money than when you sell 3 different products to the same 5 people.
More products means more money for you.
Jackson Stewart
>because new products become viable to sell.
PFFFT
AHAHAHA
Who the fuck will buy that crap you absolute imbecile, the guy who would buy it already left because it was kicked in the balls, and these people who bitch about this are not even planning on buying.
Jace Walker
>Toxicity is down 40%
In our city?
Jonathan Wilson
I guess those 40% were before maximilianmus got banned
oh yeah yeah
Aiden Brown
>Nathan Grayson
Charles Lewis
>I'm not silencing you, nor discrediting you. You are the fascist in this situation.
I'm a fascist for simply asking a question? I just couldn't keep up with you so I asked, aren't you a tad bit too paranoid right now?
Jace Moore
I thought the player base of ow went down over 90%
Charles Myers
No one (relatively) is a nazi you delusional leftist
Christopher Turner
Cope, bitch.
Isaac Williams
Imagine having Overwatch as your most played game
Colton Peterson
>You are the fascist in this situation.
>liberals call people who disagree with them "nazis"
>poltards call people who disagree with them "fascists"
you are right user, you are completely different from each other
Dominic Williams
don't post that faggot kthxbai
Jeremiah Morales
THE NUMBER MASON WHAT DO THEY MEAN?
Christopher Rodriguez
>remove a bunch of useless e-sports people
>game suddenly starts to improve
Justin Rodriguez
How can you measure toxicity??
Posts per hour on /pol/ or what??
Angel Campbell
Yes, but how is this relevant?
Games "journalism" always was a fucking joke, it never existed. It's just often unpaid advertising, don't you realize this?
Yes, these people are probably not worth trusting, but I don't need any manufactured outrage to tell me that and neither should anyone else.
>you seem to have a lot of evidence that gamergate somehow radicalised young people
Okay, explain the shift in discourse around the time it happened. I am willing to concede that it wasn't just gamergate alone, but that the events shortly after also played a part in it. Keep in mind that I told you that these "news outlets" cultivated an audience, based on the impression of a shared identity as gamers. Through this cultivated parasocial relationship they fed them lots and lots of propaganda, you know what they wanted to hear. You know stuff like "SJW bad", "woman bad" and all that.
Then the next thing happened and the missionaries went out and did their thing.
And now we have a bunch of fucking morons shitting up the site.
These sorts of things are hard to prove, but I suppose you can infer most of it, by watching through youtube catalogues and reading articles from that time period.
And yes, sites like Breitbart cultivating such an audience is at least highly likely. You have a very hard time inferring the motivations of people in the past, but you can piece together a narrative that makes sense.
You know who Steve Bannon is? He's of the founders of Breitbart and he's quite aware of video games. He endorsed investment into a gold selling company in 2006, eventually became CEO of that company. The company fell shortly after due to outrage from the gamers. This makes it very likely, at least, that Breitbard had an idea when they were courting to the gamergate audience.
Of course this is speculation, but it sure has the trappings of something that may actually have happened.
I don't give a shit about the video game "journalists", those are scum and we all know
Ryan Brooks
Diamond and above is where the real toxicity is. Not the "ggez" the telling people to fucking kill themselves because they wiffed an ult or they're daring to play widowmaker.
Masters is basically unbearable if you dont have a group to play with. You have no idea how many people Ive seen get into shouting matches and then leave before the fucking gates open.
Ethan Phillips
prolly reports
Michael Reed
>cuckold
Michael Ward
Faggot nigger kike.
Evan Ortiz
Shush that does not fit my narrative.
Liam Powell
You are new here ,aren't you? Lurk moar before posting.
Evan Allen
>mfw working in esports
Nicholas Edwards
>Too many messages! Please wait a few seconds...
Meanwhile
>tf_max_voice_speak_delay 0.1
ME-ME-ME-MEMEMD-MED-MED-MEDIIIII-MEDIIII-MEEEDIIIII-MED-ME-ME-M-M-M-M-M-MEEEEDIIIIIC
Parker Moore
no, it's based on the number of incidents reported you faggot
Isaiah Foster
>killed enemy with random crits
>*hit schadenfreude taunt
Logan Sanchez
he's a sex offender btw
Xavier Lopez
Post proof so people can save it.
Chase Wilson
They all decided to play Stalker instead
Leo Green
why is he contradicting himself
Brody Reed
When the unironic nazi party is planning to do marches or manifestations over here the whole msm and leftist machine goes apeshit and pretend it's the 1930's and democracy is about to fall. Then 100 nazis show up waving some flags for an hour and 2000 antifa and their twittercomrades from all over europoor riot and cause millions in damages and beat up random people for the rest of the day. The same larp every time.
Colton Phillips
You gracefully sweep everything under a generalizing term while proclaiming to be aware of the issue, this is hilarious to read.
Rarely do I see posts using so many words to say so little.
What is even your point?
Brandon White
>need a MEEEEDIIIC
>you fat bald bastard
>spy making fun of demo for being a cripple, an alcoholic AND being dead
>scout's shaderfraude
Tyler Russell
based
Ayden Rogers
My point is that the events around the whole lack of integrity in video game reviews, especially around the whole depression quest thing and the (unverified) claims made by some guy led to people engaging more with fringe "news" media, because they appeared to be on their side. This relationship led to them being more open for the other views these outlets peddled. Giving us the radicalization of young men through their engagement in gamergate.
Is that so hard to understand?
Sebastian Lewis
>toxicity in tf2
>no one cares, "lmao this guy is actually triggered"
>even the devs put in jokes to mock players who suck
>toxicity in overwatch
>say someone is doing bad on the team
>get muted for 1 year
>devs take anything as toxicity and will ban you / mute you
Dylan Gray
hiters 2fort server. it was great. rip.
Asher Long
The number of players is irrelevant sure, but but the context around it is not. Cause the only players that are still playing OW after blizzard made sure to make it as unfun as possible for everyone else are the brain dead blizzard drones to begin with.
Ian Peterson
When you consider how many dog bites happen annually, the breed of the dog is irrelevant.
Jason Young
>People being exposed to a broader selection of views causes radicalization
No I don't follow.
Gabriel Taylor
omg im so glad to see another sane person on Yea Forums. I also recently transitioned (m to f) and I've been having a really hard time with it since Yea Forums is so full of toxic masculinity but it makes me really happy to see there are other people just like me.
Julian Fisher
Angel Ward
can't you be any more triggered?
Parker Green
I get where you're comin' from but you gotta understand. Even the newer folk to Yea Forums know how to proxy. I'm not sure how long it'd last but if /pol/ was shutdown, you'd see waves of bullshit for, i'd say, maybe 2 months. That's being gracious.
I'm almost certain some jannies would high tail it outta here.
In the long run, i think /pol/ is still beneficial for Yea Forums in terms of profit. Everyone knows Hiro doesn't care much unless it fucks with his money.
In addition, why would the CIA/FBI get rid of such a wonderful honeypot?
Aaron Davis
please don't post paladin girls, I'm on nofap
Ryder Baker
>Make game that steadily caters more and more to people who can't deal with confrontation or conflicting opinions
>People that don't like censorship leave
>omg we're winning even though we lost most of our player base
Kayden Robinson
How do you even measure something as vague as that?
Joseph Nguyen
Are you saying that if there's only 1 player left then it'd still have toxicity % above 0 if they gauge it by interactions?
Bentley Mitchell
No, but people being exposed to propaganda does.
Wyatt Anderson
>everyone against gamergate showed the same exact rhetoric and same exact dismissal tactic
>suddenly people recognize these behaviors and go against them
>people who go against them are considered bigots, nazis, and just alt-right in general
>suddenly "alt-right people spawn out of nowhere in defense of muh vidya"
Camden Davis
maybe the userbase is down by 40%?
Liam Long
Like they were with "gaming journalism"?
Aaron James
Based and Saved
Noah Turner
what journalism? video game journalism is just advertising.
>"they called me a nazi, I'll become a real nazi that'll show em"
Brilliant.
Benjamin Taylor
Like they were with all mainstream journalism for the past decade and then some as well as fringe journalism such as gaming journalism.
Gabriel Martinez
Walk to your cars in pairs tonight - rape's up 8%
Nolan Wright
So in essence it's just a complaint about not having monopoly on propaganda now.
Colton Long
Hey Yea Forums, wanna hear a joke?
Competitive Overwatch
Daniel Gonzalez
you cant be fucking serious lmao. somebody really sat down and drew this
Chase Mitchell
Playercount being down certainly contributes to having lower interaction and that directly translates to having less "toxic", whatever that means, players.
Anyone who argues differently is either dumb or pretending to be. It's the same type who argues that "gamers" are toxic but when the darling virtue signalling corporate product is in danger, numbers of "toxic gamers" suddenly don't matter anymore.
Chase Baker
who said anything about actually becoming a nazi?
Most of them had common and reasonable complaints about unethical behavior in video game journalism. Everyone disliked Zoe quinn fucking those guys to get her game to being number 1 ahead of papers please.
the reason they were called nazis, alt-right, bigots, or whatever is because they believed they stood for progression and saw any fight against them as some form of alt-right backed group attack.
John Miller
>but anything older with a dedicated community.
Isn't that the whole issue though? If you have to play an older game to play on a dedicated server then it just proves the point that modern games no longer have dedicated servers.
Aiden Hughes
Nathaniel Perez
Came here to say this.
fpbp
Alexander Lopez
Are you retarded?
Leo Thompson
I can vouch for this. Last time i was playing Overwatch people were talking about how the holocaust never happened in chat.
David Reed
And?
Juan Russell
Maybe maybe not, I'm simply trying to figure out what your point is.
Noah Barnes
It’s actuslly down 80
Aiden Torres
I refuse to call Overwatch an FPS. There's so many shields stuns, CCs, and other dumb bullshit that shooting is hardly even part of it. What the hell is it? A MOBA without any form of strategy?
Tyler Miller
There are three types of lies.
Lies
Damned lies
And statistics
Cooper Ward
There's 3 types of people that play video games
Smart people
Good people
Overwatch players
Charles Walker
To be fair I have no problems with the "It's okay to ban things that hurt my feelings" crowd sticking together.
I just want to know why they bothered trying to attract a wider audience in the first place if all they wanted was /ATVI/transcirclejerk/
Angel Collins
xQc
Charles Watson
>I'm simply trying to figure out what your point is.
I thought it was pretty clear. My point is that far leftists control nearly all forms of media including media like Fox News which is actually just controlled opposition.
I think that even a retarded person could agree that having all forms of mainstream media follow the same agenda is propaganda.
Caleb Hall
>(((quantifying toxicity)))
Adam Diaz
No need to kick a dead horse, user
Benjamin Moore
I miss the 90s and 00's dedicated server-centered multiplayer fps scene so much. I don't even bother with it these days, matchmaking is cancerous.