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Was Vergil a bad guy in DMC5?
Some people are saying that at the end, the cast just forgot about all the people that Urizen killed. But is Vergil responsible for the crimes that Urizen committed?

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nope

Urizen had nothing to do with the tree so the million of deaths aren't his fault.

Vergil pulled a Goku and left his son behind so he could continue fighting in hell for more strength.

urizen had nothing to do with the tree but he did open the portal to earth to let the tree go through

the fact none of this is explained in the game really confuses me. If we are supposed to go along with Vergil's redemption arc, it needs to be explained how culpable he was in bringing about the tree.

Who cares? He is hot and he's got a katana.

Nope.

So here's a few background items, the basic timeline, and responsibilities:
-Portals to hell open randomly from time to time which is why devil hunting is a business at all
-Yamato was shattered and chunks of it made these holes way way fucking bigger
-These holes are how Dante escaped hell after DMC2
-Yamato was made whole again by fusing with Nero's arm
-Vergil, on the brink of death after getting corrupted by Mundus and beat down by Dante and wandering hell, finally escapes through one of these holes
-Desperate to survive and not in his right mind, he tracks down Yamato and uses it to split himself into Urizen and V. Yamato also separates Mundus' corruption which is left with V as the tattoo summons. Urizen has none of Vergil's memories, only a lust for power.
-The Qliphoth, a tree that grows once every thousand years, begins growing in Hell
-Urizen, still on the brink of death, hooks himself into the Qliphoth and unleashes it on Redgrave city
-V recruits Dante and Nero to stop it (and is genuine, he has no ulterior motives)
-Dante loses
-While Nero returns to Fortuna to prepare to fighta gain, V spends the month evacuating citizens (prologue novel lel)
-blah blah blah events of most of the game
-Essentially seizing a perfect opportunity at the last moment, he reforms as Vergil
-Dante assumes this was his plan all along, to separate out the corruption and take the power of the fruit, and Vergil is too proud to say otherwise.
-le sibling rivalry

Vergil literally did nothing wrong except be a cock to his brother. Urizen was a mindless chunk of power seeking more power. and V (who was Vergil in every way that matters) was genuinely repentant and interested in saving people, but the prologue novel specifically says he has none of the ego or pride he had as Vergil (and those are restored when he re-merges).

>Vergil responsible for the crimes that Urizen committed?
yes, unequivocally.

>(and is genuine, he has no ulterior motives)
are you sure?
V seems pretty evil right before he becomes Vergil

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