Why do Steam drones want games released so badly on their service?

They're zoomers who literally cannot remember a time when you could just play games directly from your hard drive without having to middleman them through corporate spyware DRM.

Because I don't want to buy games from a company that is inferior to Steam doesn't care about Devs or Consumers and lies to you

Valve bribes developers to only publish games on their launcher as well so why can't Epic Games do it

First sentence of the "article":
>Well, not ACTUALLY prison, but you catch my drift

ching chong ping lao

>Publisher: I'm going to release this game in Steam, Direct2Drive and Games for Windows Live
>Gamers: OK.
>[EGS bribes Publisher]
>P: Now, it's just EGS.
>G: You're a liar, I won't buy you shit.
>EGS shills: People complaining about not fulfilling promises? What a bunch of crybabies.

Proof?

Which ones?

I require factual evidence of your spurious claim

no
they don't

I don't need proof, I just know they do

Not him, but it's very clear Steam brokered a deal with MS for Halo

Especially with how MS is back supporting Win 7

>holds titles hostage on their platform and goes "You want to play this, you're paying us and only us, AND you WILL use OUR launcher!"
That's how Steam got its position: Valve held Half-Life 2 hostage on the platform.

@455515923
>dev keeps their own game on their own platform.
not even worthy of a (you) at this point.

Well what if the server of that launcher fails? What if the launcher wants control of your computer (like Epic does)?

Do you have any link about people being pissed about it? Please?

>brokered a deal with MS for Halo
Well of course but Halo wasn't meant to be on the PC in the first place so all it did was expand it. Games like Outer Worlds were meant to be on the PC but then Epic swiped them up.
>but what about David Cage
no one has complained about those games

How will Epic Games launcher fail?
Fornite is currently the number one PC game
Exodus sold a billion
Stop acting like a stupid nignog
and the whole Epic controlling your computer is a myth

No they fucking don't. Gabe has said himself long before the epic store was even a thing that exclusivity hurts everyone and he would not take away anyone's right to shop elsewhere if they wanted to.

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I don't want to install a bunch of different shit to play 1 game on each. Any service that lets you launch the game and play online without having to boot the store and log in would be 10/10 though

Because theres no reason to support something that isn't better for you as a consumer and the epic exclusivity only benefits developers

Tit for tat, if Steam ain't gonna pay, they ain't gonna play.

Valve made HL2. You realize this.

Are you sure that you're not just retarded? Literally nothing was stopping MS from making it Win10 exclusive even on Steam. They just want to get as many sales as they can before Halo becomes even less relevant than it already is after the disasters that were Halo 5 and Halo 4.

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If epic had pro consumer policies like user reviews and refunds theres be less shit about it. People hated when Steam had a bunch of anti consumer shit like paid mods, non-permanent licenses and exclusivity which has since been changed for the better.

When epic stops being shit people will stop shitting on it

That's different
Valve made that game unlike Epic which bribes publish- I mean developers into becoming exclusive. Doesn't help that Epic also swiped a game that was originally crowd funded

Sounds completely legit and with more backup than the Phoenix Point devs word. You have convinced me, user, fuck steam and who cares about gog.

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>myth

Where is there any indication of this "clear brokerage"?

>Literally nothing was stopping MS from making it Win10 exclusive even on Steam.

There are no Windows 10 only games on Steam - but nice try, retard

Valve developed Half-Life 2
Different from paying off publishers to release on only your platform at the last second
People don't give Origin shit like they give Epic shit because EA actually pays for those games to be developed.

>Epic explicitly says Metro sold more on Epic Store than any previous Metro game on Steam
>WTF NO THEY DIDN'T THEY'RE LIARS!!!1

The mind of a Steam drone

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fuck china nigger

I know you're trolling but you really have to believe me when I say Valve does bribe developers
Slay the Spire could be on Epic Games launcher right now but it's on Steam... why? Obviously because they bribed the developer
Same goes for Borderlands 2 and other games

There are no china niggers in this thread you dumb nigger. Didn't you see all the Tiananmen Square memes in this thread? Or are you telling me all you stupid faggots are spamming that for absolutely no reason and it doesn't actually do anything??

Last Light user, the first game with no publicity, not "any previous Metro game".

>Selling your own product only in your own store
okay
>Bribing developers to release games you had no involvement in on your platform exclusively
Not okay

>We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem.
Funny how this statement is more true than ever.

Is it the future of gaming? Developers putting their games in auction houses waiting for whom can pay them the most for exclusivity?

Steamspy said that LL sold 20k, so no fucking wonder they picked that one over LL: Redux which sold millions. According to the slide, Exodus sold at most 50k on EGS.

You seem angry.

Yes, you will have to install 30 online-only launchers full of spyware and you are gonna like it.

I don't think Epic pays you enough to let your mental healt destabilize to this level. For your own sake, please stop it and look for a proper job, you can't handle it.

Because Steam IS PC gaming. Steam is the reason PC gaming is still relevant and up to this point, thriving. Steam should be the only platform in which we buy games because of how beneficial it is to both the consumer and the developer. Without Steam, PC gaming would have died years ago. There's no reason to back away from the epitome of PC gaming. Its like if Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo were forced out of the market by some other party out of nowhere that doesnt respect the consumer.

You just send to the fire his friends user why would we not

>A game in 2019 is selling better than a game is 2013
>a game with its own E3 segment and marketing is selling better than a game with little to no marketing
>Epic refuses to show the actual sales
hhhmmmmmm

Shut the fuck up
Where does it say Steam is PC gaming
Give me the location and time, and the contract that claims Steam is PC gaming

Gabe is a wise man.

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Not today bug man.

its almost like you fucking zoomers havent played with only steam for 10 years waow who could have thought,, Using more launchers = bad for performance and ease of access

This, especially considering they gave actual numbers for the free downloads. This game bombed pretty hard given how they phrased it, I'd honestly bet money on it having more steam pre-orders than ebin sales at the moment.

Name a better client faggot. You act like steam hasn't benefited all of these companies for years. Just because epic got the china and fornitebucks doesn't mean it is good for the consumer if they start snatching up exclusives.

I believe in the free market too, I CHOOSE not to download more bloated "apps" just to run the same shit any other "platform" can run

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There was no deal. If that wasn't MS picking a side then we've yet to see them do so. It's notable they're bringing live to switch and shit, but curious they'd leave epic out but include steam with their own storefront.

Memes aside, if it wasn't for Steam jap devs would have taken a much longer time to consider putting their games on PC

Not him but GoG is pretty damn good

>Gabe is a dumbass libtard - Trump

GOG isn't a client.

The whole point of PC gaming is that you aren't locked down to game publishers and hardware vendors.

>Trump is a mentally deficient pauper - Gabe

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What is this shit? Who the fuck cares? Why do people keep bringing this up?
>steam bad
Then don't fucking use it. Who is trying to make this shit political? Is there some new up and coming platform that is paying people to shitpost here or am I being paranoid?

>Gabe Logan Newell, often nicknamed Gaben. is an American computer

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Shills bring Steam in the discussion because they want Epic to be more popular

its more convenient to have everything bundled up together, at least in the short term

There can be up to 12 Epic shilling threads up at times out of 30 a day with at least the half being literal copypastes of the day before.
This is the very blatant shilling, user and mods refuse to do shit as usual.

>if they do something i dont like, then its not a free market

Nobody wants shit on steam you retard. Out of all the launchers, it's the only one that can justify its ram usage. Either put it on steam or release a standalone executable.

I may be getting old but this is like all journalism to me these days. Every article even some shit that is not supposed to be an opinion piece is basically "say something retarded" followed by "just kidding". Making the internet accessible to the general public was a mistake.

Publishers and developers do.

Nobody gives a fuck about those out of touch faggots. Same with the "journalists."

imagine wanting 1 launcher instead of 5 because it's more convenient lmao

I don't. I want Epic to fund new projects rather than pay existing products to alter their existing promises to release on competitor's platforms.

If I'm gonna be a cuck who doesn't own games, Steam is the lesser evil.

Great refund policy where many other storefronts try to deny refunds whenever possible.

Everything in one spot is nice, Steam has built in drivers for stuff like Switch controllers.

Also sanic fast servers, like the only thing to benefit from my gigabit connection.

>Opinion
Thanks based journalist, you know exatly the kind of shit I'm not interested in and you warn me beforehand

>pro consumer policies like user reviews
steam is now hiding negative reviews if the publishers don't like them
the entire review system on steam is now compromised, it's meaningless now. very anti-consumer

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How much you guys paying Hiro to keep these shit threads up?

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>free market
>reduces your store selection down to two (2) stores
>meanwhile everyone else has dozens upon dozens
>uplay alone has 90 approved worldwide digital storefronts
what did epic mean by this?

This meme is so fucking retarded. Why the hell would they hire chinese shills if they could be so easily subverted? They'd hire them in a country without censorship.

Oh they're hiring Americans? Where do I apply to become a paid shitposter?

The only shill companies I know of get paid to elevate search results, and stuff like that. And you can find them on google, so I don't know.

So you do this for free?

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devs already do this when pitching a game and looking for a publisher
it's how Bayonetta became exclusive to Nintendo. Platinum went to many publishers pitching Bayo 2 before Nintendo money hatted it

at this point there's more people reeeing at people who don't like paid exclusivity than people actually vocalizing a dislike of paid exclusivity

>steam is now hiding negative reviews if the publishers don't like them
>source: my ass

why should I have to run some chinkware on my PC just to buy the game I want? At least steam doesn't spy on me.

I don't care if it comes to Steam, as long as it's on GoG or even fucking Uplay. I won't buy a game on Epic.

Free Tibet, Tiananmen Square Massacre, Xin Jinpooh, Democritzation

Become part of this company

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I think it's mostly because they aren't used too competition, but I'm not supporting Epic since they're being pretty aggressive with grabbing exclusives, even if it's mostly just western shit.

>my bloated app is better than your bloated app

Yeah but so far it was just a console thing and at least they have a reason to do it because the game probably wouldn't exists otherwise.

Well, I do. There are lots of games in Humble Store and GamersGate that only are available as Steam keys despite the DRM-free availability in GOG.com. I really hate when that happens.

The only way epicdrones have to defend their wtore is by misrepresenting what the actual problem is. And I'm still wiating for just one reason what the Epic Store does that makes it better then the others.

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Do you not know what free market means? Free market means you have the option to walk away from such a deal and take your business elsewhere. But the cost of doing so means you don't get the product.

>Exodus sold a billion
>and the whole Epic controlling your computer is a myth
>Stop acting like a stupid nignog

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I'd like Ebin if they gave me a big tiddy goth gf.

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how are you gonna move the goal posts now?
the entire user review system on steam is compromised
you can't trust any of it if publishers can remove negative reviews
theverge.com/2019/3/15/18267821/valve-steam-review-bombing-policy-remove-score-count-moderation

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Nobody cares Moby. Nobody cares.

How come everyone that loves epic looks like this?

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Is it true typing Tienanmen Square will autoboot chinks from servers?

Are you pretending to be retarded or a re you really illiterate?

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>because the game probably wouldn't exists otherwise.
devs getting a larger cut of the sales ensures they are able to keep making games

>Opinion: My Opinion Is Worthless

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Because it is the best most convenient service around
Why do shills like you feel compelled to make round the clock threads where you try to shit on it? Do you all have severe brain damage? Or are you just that desperate for (you)s?

>paying for the development is the same as buying the rights for distribution and taking it off other platforms

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>buying out devs
fuck you

This has nothing to do with what I was talking about but ok.

That one tough bit him in the ass in the end. Shouldn't have meddled with modders.

>Fewer people are buying games on epic than steam
I think the free market has spoken, Timmy just wants his data collection scheme to be taken seriously

>Oh no, theyre hiding the meaningless chinkposts screeching about winnie the pooh! Censorship!
Your meaningless chatter never fails to amuse

>Moby
Wot?

Fuck off new.

>supporting the free market
lmfao

I play on Linux.

>I would never lie to you, my children
Based Gaben

better get used to buying off the Epic Store, they aren't going anywhere and Valve won't fight back
Epic will keep getting exclusives

I could not give less of a shit if a game releases on steam, epic lancher is just Chinese cancer. Do you think im pleased when a game is tied to the perfect world launcher? Because thats the kind of ass fucking bullshit you should expect from the epic launcher here in a year or 2 when fortnight is dead and all of the exclusives they bought on a whim to promote the launcher run out and its just Chinese people begging for more pay to win horse shit multiplayer games.

Fuck you epicshillguy

It's pointless if you don't put in Chinese as well, retard

>It is physically impossible for me to defend the anti-consumer business practices of EGS without inexplicably lambasting Steam even when it has absolutely no relation whatsoever to the argument being made

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All thanks to epic showing the way that rviews are evi and need to be abolished. Gald to see that valve is taking small, but desicive steps towards that future.

Because they're idiot console migrants who think their games ran on Steam and not Windows and think PC exclusivity actually exists

WHY IS RELEASING YOUR GAME ON MULTIPLE PLATFORMS NOW A CONTROVERSIAL THING? FUCK YOU

Its less that I want the game on steam and more that I don't want to install Chinese spyware

1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre

Sure thing Chang. I hope your credit score goes up by the amount of (you)s you farm and not by the validity of your "arguments".

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Except they didn't, the orange box got a port for PlayStation and Xbox

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Valve is anti-consumer, and so are you

>chinks chimp out over some taiwanese game
>valve does something about it
>SEE VALVE CENSORS TOO LOAWAI CHINA NUMBA 1 REEEEEEEEEEEEE
isnt it interesting how epic shills always seem to have the same interests as chinadogs? dont worry though, tim swiney says he's not in the pocket of chinks you can trust him.

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>Unpaid
The current rate is ten cent an hour, what I don't get is why people would defend valve for no compensation

> I support the free market but I think the free market should have no freedoms outside of what I want

>Pay 1 million to get a game exclusive to epic platform
>People dont want chink spyware
>Pcbros pissed
>game exclusivity irritates other gamers
>TPB magnets become popular again
>Nobody buys off epic
>Steam puts the games on sale one year later and everybody goes nuts during christmas and halloween
Tim Sweeney chokes on Chinese president's dick while holding back tears and begging for his life

Point and Clickbait needs to be reminded that they'll never be P4R every single day until they inevitably die off.

>no u
Right, sure. Shouldnt you go praise your president now and stroke that 'huge' communist dick being shoved up your private life every second of every day?

The only people ok with the Epic Rootkit(TradeMark reserved, Tencent) stealing and reselling all their data are Chinks that have the government already doing that.

>Epic will keep getting exclusives
nah they're gonna tone it down (maybe)

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Sounds like a non issue if they provide you with what the other company doesn't. What could go wrong?

Tell that to all the idiots who think spamming this board is going to somehow scare away the chinks. They really need to check their mental health if they think china's firewall works using word filters.

Not only that, but CDPR, who would have a vested interest in keeping their own game exclusive to their own digital distribution platform still released Witcher 3 on Steam.

>Wins over users by providing an objectively better customer experience with quantifiably more features
>Doesn't just spend money to try and force people to use their platform
>Doesn't resell your credit card info
>Doesn't check your system's hardware data without explicit permission
The absolute cretins, someone stop these vile fiends!

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next time just tell us you're a fucking retard

It's as true! Also typing "War of 1812" or "Burning of Washington" will autoboot the americans.

>journalists: don't ever complain about things that are important to you
>also journalists: *incessant complaining*

GOG Galaxy is a client and it has more features than the EGS client does.

>complaining about alleged chink spyware
>yet using wangblows
The state of shill mutts.

Not wanting to install n+1 different launchers, and Steam being less shit than the alternatives.

>>but what about David Cage
>no one has complained about those games
No one cares about them either

games should be like a product in a grocery store, I should be able to choose walmart, a local grocer, or a gas station, not be forced to pick either of these options and only these options.

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Lol faggot

Because I'm not going to reinstall Windows.

That's literally free market.

>another
Try any. Let me play off the fucking exe

Do they not actually have a linux build?
What the fuck is this, 2004?

>Expecting Epic to put any effort into anything

Oof

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it looks like the quantic games are not necessarily locked under an exclusivity contract, rather they're just going to be exclusive by choice, which is ok. that's their choice, regardless of incentives. but games that originally marketed themselves as steam releases jumping ship at the last minute is pathetic af and the cause of virtually all the bad vibes being directed at faggots from epic. and then to make matters worse, that vampire looking kike can't keep his dumb mouth shut and just continually mocks and shits on his potential customers and steam users. i won't ever give that faggot or his chinese overlords any money ever. i saw everything i needed to.
>80 million users
lmao sure

Anybody supporting store exclusivity on pc is a moron.

>this is the modern zoomer intelligence
that literally describes the free market retard and how its mechanicisms work. Just because the word "Free" is used doesn't mean that in this context, the product should be available on all platforms

Most grocery stores have exclusive items.

Spamming Yea Forums won't help Epic's case

i dont, its fine if the games are released on GoG instead.
i just want them on epic, because they are anti free market.

dont want them*

>They don't even have people familiar with linux development on their team
Holy shit, are these guys streetshitters?

By now even they must realize that their model isn't sustainable in the long run when their biggest success are 100k sold units of Metro Exodus.

free market has decided in favor of torrents. payfags lmao.

It is

lol like what, I can buy name brand stuff at every store, I haven't seen Pepsi or Doritos only sold at walmart

Wrong. I dont care if its on Steam or not. I do care if its on Chinese scamware Epic. Ill gladly buy it on uPlay, origin, gog, whatever. Just not Epic

based
youtu.be/HjEk61KlOtk

Exclusive items are literally their own store brand stuff. Generic alternatives to compete with the branded items. Generic paper towels that are cheaper lower quality, generic soda, generic etc.

Nobody but hipsters and tin foil hatters care about linux.

Steam cared enough to make their own OS on it.

Is that why IBM just acquired RedHat for more money than you'll ever see?

It's called going to Walmart and putting the fucking disc on your computer. Don't act like you're 13 years old

generics don't really count in this discussion since they're mostly copies of name brands, the argument is about products equivalent to AAA games, which would be name brand foods, I've never encountered any that were exclusive to 1 store.

THeir store didn't have a search function and is still missing a shopping cart. Streetshitters are most likley the codemonekeys.

I support free market.
I don't like something = I don't spend money on it

>I support the free market
I do not.

>Epic to join the likes of microsoft support technicians for quality of work provided for time spent on project
That's just embarrassing

Shut up and get Windows 10 already faggots.

Yeah, there aren't any that are exclusive to any store.

It installed without my permission already.

These posts are always made by console gamers. They just don't get it. They have no business trying to inject their opinion into a conversation when they can't even operate a computer.

What do I care? I'm a pirate! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SUCK MY DIIIIIIIICK

Unhealthy automatic patch addiction

The free market sucks ass so the rest of that comment does not apply to me and anyone who pirates but larps as a libertarian is a hypocrite.

All that money just from fucking cosmetics. Holy shit.

>Epic explicitly says Metro sold more on Epic Store than any previous Metro game on Steam
get your quote right, shill
Epic said "Exodus sold 2.5x copies on launc on epic store than Last Light did on launch"
That mean exodus is a flop, because Last Light sold like shit on launch and shi x 2.5 is still shit.

>tfw free license for it through college
>tfw still use Debian for everything workstation and CentOS for everything server
Soon I will ascend to the pinnacle and install Gentoo on all my portables and not even bill himself can stop me.

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>>Especially with how MS is back supporting Win 7
What's this news?

>I'd honestly bet money on it having more steam pre-orders than ebin sales at the moment.
the fun part is that the 2.5x count even all the year of steam preorders, and it sold really well on steam that mean it sold shit on Epic if it reached only 2.5x sales of launch last light

Did any of our cards not end with bad news surrounding the recipient within a year or so?

You have no proof or even hint that Halo is under contract as an exclusive. This is similar to Persona - Atlus is is also not under a contract with Sony for exclusivity. That was just a choice made by Atlus.

i simply doubt MS would be stupid enough to join epic games, especially with its bad reputation.
MS is finally recovering from their own bad reputation, imagine the dumpsterfire if MS would release Halo mcc on epic store.

youtube.com/watch?v=88VBun17AMI
>1 million views
>400 dislikes
How many millions would epic games have to pay MS to throw that away?

JUST

A lot, it's microsoft after all

At least 10 million

I like free market with competition

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Well that's shitty. Did they stop doing refunds, too?

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halo likely uses the steamworks networking system
see what having features that work on your store does, tim?

What????? I don't even use Linux, but what???

Why is Timmy so terrible at bullshiting?
You can just admit you're too stupid to use anything that's not VS2019.

I already have it. Tried using it as my main OS for about a year and just got tired of things breaking all the time. Every update brought new problems like getting stuck in boot loops, blue screens from shitty wifi drivers, explorer crashing randomly, applications failing to start and creating unkillable processes, etc. I just got tired of trying to fix everything and gave up. Installed Linux and haven't had an issue since.

>halo likely uses the steamworks networking system

Uh, it says requires Xbox Live right on the Steam page

Retard

with this retard at the helm, it's only a matter of time until his luck runs out.

>Not liking a platform is the same as wanting that platform outlawed
Not sure why I'm surprised a commie chink would think this way.

Opinion: I support the free market but I'm not going to support competitors because I don't want to, and that's how the free market works.

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Missing the unkempt pube stubble across the lower chin.

Define free market Yea Forums

Pirating videogames = free market
simple as.

>doesn't even release sales numbers
>had to boost about this game being more popular on launch when the original game was obscure at best at launch and only gained fame later on which massively distorts this claim
>also included steam pre orders before the game went exclusive
oh dear, your points just show your either a shill or a poorly programmed bot