Well, well, well...
Looks like Yea Forums, Reddit and the merry band of Valve drones were wrong once again.
Well, well, well...
Looks like Yea Forums, Reddit and the merry band of Valve drones were wrong once again.
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he still gives money and data to them
Well well
>Tim Sweeny does not take orders
>says Epic
Okay so Tim doesn't; Epic does.
Just like how they said EGL doesn't spy on you and that was proven wrong?
Sounds like something someone taking orders from Tencent would say
Epic employees takes orders from Sweeney, who owns the company, yes.
It's true, the orders come from the CPC
And we don't take orders from Russia, guess it sucks when people claim your opinions are invalid because of foreign influence, huh?
So man with onus to lie is a liar?
>Company Owned By Investors Denies Being Owned By Investors
Uhuh.
>THAT'S EXACTLY THE WORDS SOMEONE WHO TAKES ORDERS FROM TENCENT WOULD SAY
kind of surprised they fell for the bait. they seem pretty bothered by it. how much further can you guys make them go?
How could they lie to us? Its not like they lied on spying on us am I right?
>why would the CCP ever lie?
>We don't take orders from someone who pays us
Hmmm...
Have him make this statement under Oath
>actually responding to steamshill bait
Epic employees truly have the biggest, best brains on their shoulders. Now the shitposting will escalate further to the point where it can't be contained
Gimme dat OBSCENE Shawna gf
And tencent owns Sweeney
Come on Maria you snarky shit lets go
ok
that's like MCDonalds saying there's no shit in their burgers
hmm
Yes, everyone knows the communist peoples republic of china just invests hundreds of millions of dollars into western business out of the goodness of their hearts
Bruh
@455492713
give me 34
91-93 plz
TEACH ME YOUR WAYS, OH MIGHTY RUSSEL!!!
>tfw no renee sister
>we don't take orders from tencent, we do their bidding willingly
>Illegal twerk
What
It's probably true; most of their userbase isn't old enough to even know what Steam is.
China: if anyone asks, we order you to lie and say we aren't running the show
Sweeney:yes masters
rolady dwie macie robic co chce
>We don't take orders from tecent, we install spyware because we wanted to
Linda or Raquel pls
>40% is ownership
>got exactly who i wanted
cute
>say something
>that automatically makes it true
why are neets so bad at understanding a business lol
I swear to god I've rolled Russel 3 times in a row on this one.
Tencent really needs success in the West as revenue alternatives since Chinese government fucking loathes Monster Hunter for some reason. They're in no position to risk pissing off their Western or Japanese devs.
might aswell
PLEASE
rolling for russell
I want a tyler gf.
Rollan for Juliana
based
oh no
Kek. Sweeney sold 40% of the company to Tencent a few years ago because they were nearly bankrupt. They may not say "jump" and he says "how high?" but he is absolutely complicit with anything they might ask for or request.
Prove us wrong Tim, buy back those 40% shares.
Based roll poser
yea give me alpah
What?
No Unreal Tournament, no way fag.
Anything but 69
Jailfu time
Yeah, this is the most obvious flaw.
>dude we're not being influenced by a huge company that owns 40% of us
>trust me, why would i lie to you?
Rollin!!
Last one was Aspecia, rollin again
so they are shitbags on their own volition? good to know
gib
VAMOS
Rollerino
eskeetit
god bless you
Gib illegal twerker
What even is the second charge for that girl? Removed abdomen tattoo. Does that mean she removed hers or someone else's?
>le only 50.00000000000001% of shares gives ANY power maymay
I hate you all
he can litarally sell 49.999999%, he is still fine with his 50,01% because all these 50.01% is his you brainlet, tencent can do shit
Rolling for a qt criminal
R o l l i n g
Rollerino
>Tarrant county
Oh for fucks sake I actually live there
Katana is a dumb ass name but she's also a cute so
lets go fuckers
rollerera
I don't like epic Games.
solo dolo rollin
thank you god
giv prison gf
you do know you have nothing, right?
skabidi
rolland dahl
Based roll poster derailing epic shill trheads
shut up
Yeah ok
Alrighty
I bet this guy also thinks EA isn’t responsible for Bioware and Dice’s decline and that they don’t have their fingerprints all over Respawn atm.
>tfw will never buy a game on epic store but still buy skins in fortnite because degenerate
anyone else know this feel
roll roll rolliing
Come on Maria
ded thred
Ask you friends from gas chamber
How does a company have 40% share and absolutely zero input? This is a total lie.
Just like they used to say that Activation didn't heavily influence Blizzard
It's call Bullshit
Because they don't have to ask him for shit.
Top tier moderation
>I have no proof, but this is a lie
This entire thread
Because they sure are telling the truth.
rolling for victoria
Going for ban #2? Let's go!
So all the shit decisions thus far aren't the result of investor meddling? That makes it even worse.
>no kanoe yuuko
shit tier roulette, rolling anyway
>we just bought 40% of your company, but just feel fre to do whatever bud
are you an idiot?
Can anyone tell me where all of these quotes from Tim are coming from? This is the second new thing he's apparently said today. Does this fag have a line of journalists at his door that he let's in one at a time through out the entire week? Getting real weird. Pretty sure all of these articles are either fabricated or tencent is straight up telling him to say all this shit every day.
kill all chinese
This. Everything wrong with the store is now YOUR fault, and you can't blame Tencent if anything goes wrong. So it sounds like a botched deal.
They can give him suggestions but they don't have the power to make him do anything. Timmy owns 60%, he actually can do whatever he wants. People focusing on chink memes instead of what's actually wrong with the epic store are just making things worse, you make everyone look like a retard and give epic shills more ammo.
Thank god, I was worried but I guess if he says it then it must be true.
Well how would they know about that?
Unironically yes.
EGS is the target of gamer hate so covering it is guaranteed hate clicks.
Why do you think all these articles have headlines making Sweeny sound like a deranged monarch at war?
>doesn't know how equity deals work
>calls others stupid
Thanks for the laugh, kiddo.
you are actually legit retarded if you believe he can just do whatever he wants.
like do you honestly believe a company that just spent milions of dollars to gain 40% of other company would just let said company do whatever the fuck and not secure their investment? fucking think about it, you dip.
So what Tim is saying is he offered the spyware and data and whatever else to Tencent voluntarily?
lmao who gives a fuck what he says? I hate zoomers and fortnite so I'll continue to spread my narrative. you literally can't stop me, Sweeney. Get fucked
sweet little lies
he's no todd but he's getting there
It doesn't matter what they want, they don't have the power to do it. They are literally incapable of forcing timmy to do anything no matter how much they want to. They own 40%, he owns 60%, therefore he has the power to veto anything they come up.
>"I'm not spying you because of my investors, I don't even answer to my investors"
What a massive, fucking load. Sweeney can suck my weenie.
>I-I am in c-charge here!
Fuck off.
>going for a robber
Idiot
>mfw I trust the chinks more than the mutts
If this manga showed nipples it would be 10/10
>but he is absolutely complicit with anything they might ask for or request
???
How much does the Chinese gov pay usually?
At least Todd tells lies that are actually 1% true because the way he lies is in a way that makes you think one way, but he actually means it in a far more underwhelming and unexpected way. Tim Howard is just a faggot ass liar.
To be fair, Chinese are open racists and sexists and would love to wrangle the western degenerates and put them in their place
Very based.
>more Epic PC users regularly play on consoles than on Steam
This isn't surprising in the least.
megabased
I certainly believe that they don't need the Chinese to fuck up. Blaming China is just an easy way to somehow imply they would be competent without them.
the most based shit I have ever seen
unironically based
What if the next big war between countries was started because of Tencent nuking American entertainment. Asians snuck in before and when they did, they bombed pearl harbor. We should know better this time but I'm not seeing much retaliation. Would be hilarious if gaming started WW3.
>they don't have the power to do it
i don't know what to tell you man, but you seem to have no idea how the world works. here's an example:
>epic, do this
>tencent, no
>okay we'll block your shit in china
>okay then
and that's just something i pulled outta my ass in 5 seconds. they absolutly can and do influence their investment. that's what every company does.
How the fuck is that different from any company that does business in China like Valve?
>Gaben give us all your user data
>No
>Then we brokka youu in China
I guess we gotta boycott them all.
>I just totally ignore the will and demands of the largest investor in my company
Who the fuck is expected to fall for this? It doesn't matter if Tencent "only" own 40%, that still makes them the second largest shareholder behind Sweeney. They have a major fucking say in what the company does. Companies don't just ignore investors because they aren't majority shareholders.
nice that you asked, because companies get fucked over anyway
>china, i make mobile game off of a popular franchise, look, shiny
>blizzard, skulls in game, you no sell in china
shit gets banner for arbitrary reasons, which forces companies to bend over backwards so they can get their hands on the chinese market
Maybe not ignore but Sweeney still has veto power over everything.
It depends entirely on the contract. Tim fully owns the company with no board of directors so it sounds like it's mostly simple equity in exchange for capital
Oh yeah, I'm sure he's being honest. No way corporations would lie to us
I've worked in a few small up and coming businesses and let me tell you - even a business that only owns 10% of the shares still has a major impact on how the company plans to operate in the future when it comes to holder meetings. 40% is colossal, and on the scale Epic works I imagine that's billions of dollars. Incomprehensible to me when the places I worked dealt in the high tens at best.
Are you 12 years old? The minority shareholder does not have power over the majority shareholder. If tencent doesn't like it then they can just sell and tim can find another buyer.
This isn't an ordinary minority shareholder, this is Tencent. Tencent is pretty much the one-way street access into China, and every publisher/developer must go through them if they want access to Slant land.
You don't see how Tencent actually has Sweeney by the balls here? China is the biggest entertainment market on the planet. Their box office numbers alone dwarf the West and have saved countless movies that bombed over here.
I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
whats the manga?
is that a live action ace attorney?
yep
>parent companies do not influence their subsidiaries
Imagine being this retarded.
Valve definitely does not collect and sell user data
>They have a major fucking say in what the company does
I suppose you have some sort of proof for this claim?
>tencent owns 40% of the company
>cant have a word in investors meetings
whatever lets you sleep at night bro
Hey Renee, I just found out we are cousins.
So...
YA WANNA FUUUCCK??
>40 percent stake in the company
Uh, yeah, you do.
See
It's basic common sense. Tencent has Epic's balls in a vice when it comes to access to the Chinese market - the largest market on the planet. Despite owning less shares than Sweeney, they have a much greater influence on what the company's future plans are.
CHYNS NAMBA UAN
>fornite is mostly played by children
>expecting children to even know what steam is
>40% of fornite players dont have steam installed
>somehow this is impressive
>its not explained how epic has this numbers and stats
yes, they're totally not owned by tencent and they totally dont spy on you
>the truth isn't actually the truth because I don't want to believe it
whatever lets you sleep at night bro
Can you point out the proof in that post, please? Not seeing it.
Wait, is this there first response on the subject? Why did it take so long? Was he waiting for a Tencent approved answer?
owning a 40% of a company definitely gives you a word on meetings you fucktard, enjoy the chinks micro cock
>there
Are all Valve drones underage?
Proof?
Then you're blind.
Every single video game that wants to be published in China has to go through Tencent - every single one. They're essentially the ESRB of China as well as a game publisher. If Tencent doesn't like what you're doing, they block you from entering the biggest money pit on the planet.
Obvious damage control is obvious. Learn the differences when it comes to Company responses:
Rumor: *exists*
Company its not true for: *says nothing*
Company its true for: "THIS RUMOR IS NOT TRUE AND ALL OF YOU SHOULD JUST IGNORE THIS ITS OUTRAGEOUS AND SEVERELY HARMS US PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS PLEASE ITS NOT TRUE."
Real companies never speak on rumors or speculations that are not true.
>can't point it out
>you're just blind
Hmm, interesting.
Elon owns 20% of Tesla stock. He's also the CEO, and the entire company takes marching orders.
Tim Sweeny is the CEO of Epic, but Tencent owns 40% of Epic stock. So technically, Tencent's calling the shots here.
>Tencent dominance of the Chinese market comes from its control of content discovery, user acquisition and distribution, but in international markets its value-chain influence
Are you done being stupid?
Hey user, would you like to tell me who owns the 60% that's left over?
Proof??
The chynese government does like that word. Shhh
But seriously the chinese government has power over every penny ,business ,person in chyna. They have and will shut down businesses and taken their money. Recently a well known italian brand made an offensive ad, the chinks didn't like it, every online purchase made in china from their store was taken and all the businesses on chinese lands closed until apology or money. It's pretty hilarious to think the big papa gov doesn't control every company there. Literally ridiculous to think otherwise.
>can't point it out in the post
>can't post a link with proof
Hmm, interesting. Going for strike 3?
>B-but Valve
Cope
You're done yang. Take your pennies and go home you communist rat
fuck Epic and fuck Tencent. I hate Valve and Gabe for not making Half Life 3 but Steam is still better than Epic!!
and they 100% own Tim
Hey Wong, what's it like having a single company police your life when it comes to entertainment?
Tim owns less than 50% anyway, which isn't any better.
Just wait until canada and Europe accept Huawei infrastructure for 5g , hacking on a scale never before imaginable. No power for 7 days.
Chinks own more of Epic than Tim does
Why is the chink government such pussies about everything? Getting fucking triggered by a yellow bear.. its almost like they have no spine... like bugs.
>Israel has completely banned 5G from being implemented in their country
Biggest red flag imaginable, we're all fucking doomed.
>”We dont do anything shady! Just trust us and buy our games!”
Nice try...except not really
>U TERR AMERICAN DAT YOU NO PUPPET FO US TIM
>U TERR RIH NAO
god I hate china
So what theyre saying is that they don't they don't listen to majority shareholders? Don't make me laugh.
The Lady doth protest too much, methinks. This is one of those things where the proper PR route would have been to ignore the accusations so as to not dignify them with a response, arguing against them instead smacks of desperation.
>Canada
>Huawei
About that...
>Tim fully owns the company with no board of directors
So then buy them out. You're sitting on billions.
>Just read the comments
>Whole comment section calling out PCGamer and Tim Sweeney for lying through their teeth
They just take "suggestions" from the Tencent rep on their board.
The funny thing is that the chinese don't even play fortnite. Epic invested in good anti cheat so China barely touches it and would rather go ruin apex.
I call bullshit on his claim
And Huawei isn't chinese government spyware, says Huawei.
Okay. Well, the proof on this claim's side is Tim Sweeney owns >50 percent of the company and tencent only owns 40 percent. What is the proof on your side?
There are people that have path of exile installed right now that bitch about the epic store being spyware.
The idea that a company that owns a good portion of the other company doesn't have any power what so ever is brain dead stupid considering that you are Chinese it makes sense that you believe it
and its not like Tim is a guy who is honest. Remember when Tim said that Developers will decide who wins the store wars and not the consumers? Seems like that was a lie. Remember when Tim said that Epic doesn't spy on you? Where did he get this information from? Out of his ass?
I never said they don't have ANY power, but to imply that they run the show just makes you look fucking retarded. Seems like your only evidence is "Tim lied before so he's obviously lying now too." But then again, it's clear that you've already made up your mind and nothing I say will ever convince you. So have a good one.
I do not understand you
If you defend a big corporation by lying, I hope you get paid at least
If you just ignore the replies and spam same reply, what do you get out of it?
If you need attention or need to feel something, why not talk with a friend or go for a jog?
I want to understand you and reach you, but it feels like you are under so many layers of something
Come closer at least so I can understand you. Please
That's exactly what someone who takes orders from Tencent would say
proof is that any decision they make they have to run past the tenbug reps
>they can just tell them to get over it
lol chinks get angry over nothing, they'll threaten to cash out and blacklist epic from the entire country (1.4 billion people btw) if they don't have their way
I've also never had my credit card nor my account stolen.
It's happened to Epic TWICE in the past 4 months.
see
The Tencent people on the company board aren't there to drink free coffee and twiddle their thumbs. Epic Games has a studio in Shanghai and they need to trade favours with their Chinese partners to be able to do business there.
Tim saying they don't have any influence at all is 100% translucent bullshit.
sorry, might want to clarify, when I said "it has happened to Epic", I'm referring to the major leaks.
Just thought I'd throw that out there since epic shills speak Chinese as their first language and probably couldn't infer that.
>they own 40% of Epic
>I d-don't take any orders from them.
Yeah sure.
>Literal children who only play Fortnite don't have Steam
Stop the fucking presses right now we got some proper news shit right here
Of course that's what tencent would say.
So that's him being him? Good fucking lord.
We will quite literally microwave ourselves slowly, developing all kinds of cancer and brain tumors. Maybe it's idiotic of me to think this, but did people in the past ever had that much cancer or tumors?? Did they have more?? Less?? Are we just becoming weaker and weaker every generation??
I stopped following the canada and europe thing, i really hope they will not accept the deal. What happened are there new developments after they arrested the yellow fever beaver??
Fuck ,caught me offguard
Do they say age brackets?
That makes a big difference.
>Tyler Wilde
Yeah? if they had nothing to hide, why would they adress it? Hmm... It's almost like they know something the sheep don't...
Idiot, the majority of Epic is owned by some South African guy. Ten cent owns a small portion only.
>Epic games on pulling Metro Exodus on Steam "we don't ever want to do that again.
No shit, because it didn't sell at all on the Epic store despite being an exclusive and they had to pay a shitton to the devs just to make up for the last sales.
>small portion
>40%
pick one.
>We don't take orders from the company that owns 40% of us dude trust us
I think they're explicitly lying about 85 million people using their store. There aren't 85 million people playing Fortnite on PC. They're all mobile and consoles.
Is Tyler the one spamming Yea Forums?
He seems obsessed.
>Need to call Valve faggots for pulling censorship like this while wanting Epic to die in an oil fire
>since you believe anything you read
did you know Epic and Steam both want Bees to be annihilated to welcome our collective deaths?
>Epic has investigated Epic and found that Epic has done nothing wrong.
>Consumer choice? A better store? Better prices? Fuck you! - Tim Sweeney
That's a real quote by the way.
>one of its investors
>literally owns the company with 40%
lmao go figure the cuck is in denial
Super valuable
Gabe Newell was actually asked about his opinion bees and he said "they're cool"
>hits me with facts
fuck you got me with my one true weakness
We don't WANT to pull games from our competitor.
But we did it anyway because it will make Tence-I mean Epic more money.
>owning 40% of the company
>nearly half the board.
>CEO doesnt take orders from the board
Said no CEO ever
Split between everyone else.
even that finnish company that made silly mobile games only sold 49% or something like that to chinese
Well shit if he said it I guess it must be true
faggot
Its not a matter of selling more than 50% of the shares. Its have enough of them to deafeat any vote that may come up. If Sweeney doesnt have majority share he needs the other board members to vote his way should something happen.
Still the CEO reports to the Board (which he is probably on) but the board approves or makes changes to the CEOs plan. So they are giving him orders. But they arent going. MAKE THAT GAME EGS ONLY FILTHY WESTERNER
Not Sweeney. Tencent is the second largest at 40%, then 48% is owned by Epic itself (Not Sweeney). Sweeney maybe gets the last 12%.
If no single entity owns the remaining 60% then yeah
>its another "Yea Forums thinks 40% = 100%" episode
>it's another (You) are a retarded niggerfaggot episode
Woops, I meant Ten Cent is majorly owned by a South African company.
sweeney is the controlling shareholder which by definition means he owns at least 51% of the company
her i goo
Imagine spewing nonsense like you know what you're talking about LOL
>its another "get triggered by the truth you start ad hominem" episode
why would you lie about something that you can google?
imagine being presented with easily provable facts and calling them nonsense because you have no cogent rebuttal
you're probably right. fuck if i know anything about high level stuff. just thinking that whoever the dudes own most of the shit are maybe on same side on when deciding things.
>g-g-guys tencent totally has no say in what epic games d-d-does really h-h-haha
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Reminder that in China after playing for 4 hours Fartnut will cut your exp gain in half and shame you about excessive playing being dangerous and urge you to focus on studies.
Please retarded baboon, read Even faggots like these who claim shit without knowing about it are wrong, because you only need 41% to have higher authority than tencent, and even then they are not in full control because of your own fucking argument, which by that logic would mean anyone with less than % than tencent (say, exactly 39%) would mean it still has a say in the company, meaning nobody bows to tencent without asking first, you fucking retard.
so he is saying it bothers him when people say this? interesting.
On the contrary, we have all the time we need to really dwelve into the business world and master every single aspect, thus we have a keen insight and understanding of the real writing behind the fluffer words they say. This is why we are among the most intelligent people on the planet and why we always see the correct path for humanity, thus lean towards far right.
gee
>It's another "user starts slurping on my fat chub happily" hentai
veto
Huawei higher up was recently arrested in Vancouver on suspicions of spying...
She was arrested on suspicions of going beyond sanctions against Iran(?) not of spying.
Can't believe these obsessed anglos still think their little " magic spell to create a safe space" has ever worked.
Who ever decided USA should decide who to sanction anyway? I wish the entire world would sanction that vile corrupt shithole. Let America burn, there's nothing worth saving from there. Literally bruteforcing thugs who will destroy everyone who don't dance to their shitty tunes.
go make some knockoff clothes, chang
Well considering that the US GDP is literally number 1 in the world. And let's hear where you're from by the way ;)
I'd rather actually buy russian, indian or chinese goods than overpriced shitty "designed by nature to break" """""goods"""""" usa spit their shitty brands on.
>censorships
>china
>data privacy
>stores
>company shilling
i remember when i only had to worry about sony vs microshit vs nintendo crap. This is so fucking tiredsome.
>I'd actually buy chinese goods rather than chinese goods
??????????????
Won't be once everyone is fed up with your shit and starts boycotting your overpriced shoddy goods. Cars? German and Japanese beat you. Computers? Chinks and also japanese. Clothing, food, raw resources? Literally everyone else.
USA's only production is brand name, literally nothing else of value.
>Doesn't say where he's from
Directly from the chinks, instead of the ever so useless burger middleman faggotry. You only import to sell 10x more expensive without doing jack shit to the goods but slap a "seal of quality" on it.
Norge, you filthy plebeian rat. Not that an american could ever point out a country that wasn't their little puppet UK on a map, not even on a map of norway.
Oh, nobody even gives a shit about you desu
Blame brand warriors who imported their faggot tier console wars onto pc platforms because they NEED to feel superior to literal whos somewhere on the planet, it's their sole identity. Especially anglos. You never saw "console" wars on pc platforms when Origin and those other shit stores came and went. Not even between GoG and Steam besides cheeky rivalry or drm discussion.
But then dear leader decided to hate chinks and his ever so loyal minions, incapable of their own opinions follows his lead.
>nobody even gives a shit about you desu
Know how i can tell you're not even half white?
There's a reason we are elevated above the peasants in WN movements (every sane white man is a member).
pic related
But only ironically.
R u dumb?
Let's see.
>85M users
does that number include the people that are still part of the botnet even after uninstalling their shitty program
do you even know what a botnet is?
And I have an eighteen inch cock.