>2020 - March/April/May >Unreal 4 >25-30 hours >high replayability - different clans, decisions, man or female, romance, characters past etc. >Modding is possible - Skyrim 2.0 Porn here we come >man or woman - usual character options >can choose a characters professional past (before he became a vamp) - gravedigger and copper are some options >has influence on dialogue >can choose a Clan, but not directly at the start >it plays in Seattle >Story like the first game comes from Brian Mitsoda >we got illlegial turned into a vampire and the "tutorial" is about us being sentenced to death in a Camarilla courtroom >mainly ego perspective (first person) >we can walk walks and are basically like Spiderman (enter a girls window on the 2nd floor to "eat" her - jump from people from above) >character system/attribute = like in the previous game, based on the World of Darkness system, but even more active skills >disciplines(clan) = powerful spells like in the first game; turning into fog or into bats; even more and different spells depending on your clan (for example blood magic) >resonance system = every person has an emotional mood; we can sense it as a vampire (red = anger; yellow = fear etc.); changes options and also changes your own character depending on what blood you consume; if you eat a lot of angry people you will become stronger
They make shit games and they're super Jewish. They've already cut content so they can sell the game in different editions.
Austin Robinson
What if the guy on the ferris wheel is the one we diablerise to choose a clan? What if it's a mercy killing which is why his hand is outstretched like that, and why the protagonist could be allowed to commit such a heinous crime?
James Lee
only if the soundtrack is as good as in the first game
The only things that are unfortunate is that Boyarsky isn't involved since he was the creative lead of the original VtMB, and there is no confirmation of Rik Schaffer doing the soundtrack. But at least Avellone and Mitsoda are writing
That short moment of happiness after the teaser was revealed on Yea Forums was great, then everyone went into seethe mode over nothing.
Christian Bailey
lets hope that main plot wouldn't be left-wind as hell
Jose Phillips
wing*
Brandon Hernandez
I've actually seen some of it. I know your post will be reposted a lot, but a lot of this is wrong. I can tell you just pulled this out of your ass from the man or woman part. Hint: you can be trans.
Angel Allen
So is this the image I'm going to be seeing on here a thousand times a day?
Dylan Edwards
I bet $1000 bucks it will have an allegory for why Trump is a Nazi.
Robert Richardson
Yea Forums never allows itself to be happy.
Christopher Gray
It makes little sense for her to be in because she/Therese rule Santa Monica as Baron, and one of them can technically "die" depending on your choices
My guess is that >Knox, because a twitter user named "Knox" helped with the Tender ARG >Beckett, because he's popular + a wanderer >Jack, because he's a wild card who might bounce from place to place >Pisha, because she mentioned leaving LA to go travel are the most likely candidates because they may all have a reason to be in Seattle
Brayden Ortiz
>VtMB shits on Bush and Republicans >no one cares >VtMB portrays the Anarchs, the faction with a woke Che-Guevara wannabe commie grill that's led by a Hispanic who lived during the Great Depression, as the objective good guys who regularly help and save you while Lacroix, the wealthy elite is objectively evil >no one cares >Bloodlines 2 mentions the advancement of technology as a political theme >RUH ROH BETTER HOPE THE PLOT ISN'T TOO LEFTIST
It matters to your soul! At least that's how I recall it, I don't know how it is now.
Diablerie literally grafts parts of the victim into the being of the diablerist. If they are sinful monsters then you are too. That's why people with weak wills sometimes get personality traits from their victims. Diablerist are soul trannies.
Ryan Long
Obviously we need to see more before we judge, but there are a lot of signs that it won't be anywhere near as bad as I feared. The hype is simmering. Let's wait and see.
Also fuck Yea Forums for shitting on literally everything. It exists, there's a chance it will even be good.
rockpapershotgun.com/2019/03/22/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-preview/ >They wouldn’t confirm or deny if there’s still a late night radio talk show, but Mitsoda said that because they’re trying to keep that Bloodlines feeling, there “definitely might be something like that” So, I dunno, maybe a podcast. I also asked if we might see some familiar faces, because it took three seconds for me to convince myself that a blurry silhouette I glimpsed for half a moment was Nines Rodriguez. “All I can say is, this is still set in the same universe. So… could be?”
Nines possibly confirmed?
Jaxon Adams
>Preorder now! >no screenshots or gameplay footage
William Martinez
>>we got illlegial turned into a vampire and the "tutorial" is about us being sentenced to death in a Camarilla courtroom Todd does it again
>Obviously we need to see more before we judge Speak for yourself, faggot. I can judge right fucking now: It's shit.
Grayson Ward
It's not UE4 faggot, it's Techland's proprietary engine.
Angel Stewart
>romance
FUCK!
VAMPIRES ARE LITERALLY CORPSES. THEY CANNOT HAVE (NORMAL) SEX BECAUSE THEIR ORGANS DON'T WORK. THEY ARE INCAPABLE OF A SEX DRIVE. THEY ARE LITERALLY ASEXUAL. WHAT IS SO FUCKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS?
Christian Garcia
you can have asexual romantic relationships.
Ian Price
Vampires have to get permission from the elder/leader dudes before they turn a human into a vampire.
Blake Gonzalez
>it wasn't up your face >the first one is forced while the latter isn't >Vtmb only joked about those things sarcastically
Doesn't matter what /v-pol/ shitpost, we are finally getting a new Vtmb game and it has all the people that needs to be in there to hopefully make it successful
He wasn't even born in 2004, cut the user some slack.
Thomas Reed
The Camarilla and the Princes dictate that there are only supposed to be a certain number of vampires within each city, because if there are too many vampires maintaining the Masquerade becomes harder and harder. This is why you nearly get killed in the beginning of the original VtMB.
It can vary depending on how strictly the Prince follows the Masquerade but that's a general rule of thumb
Jordan Reyes
>THEY CANNOT HAVE (NORMAL) SEX BECAUSE THEIR ORGANS DON'T WORK. I'm not sure, but I think V20 changed it so you can have normal sex now while blush of life is active.
Benjamin Sanchez
I'm cautiously optimistic. My main concern is that Paradox is a shit company and >muh gender pronouns makes me fucking roll my eyes so hard they hurt. Can't wait for that trend to be over.
Robert Sullivan
>Walking around the city at night >See a Taxi >Driver rolls down their window >”Where to...” 11/10
Jose Ortiz
>Being mad for some feature relating to pronouns that you will not even use Never change Yea Forums, never change...
Mason Cooper
what is this? a cyberpunk vampire game?
Blake Collins
I hope the taxi driver comes back, but WW got butthurt when he was revealed to be Caine so maybe not. But Paradox basically owns WW now so maybe yes?
Henry Evans
Did you see any sunshine in that trailer?
Carter Clark
>Pisha, because she mentioned leaving LA to go travel
I actually thought that the trailer narrator and this person at the end was Pisha, with the way she talks about "waiting so long to see it again" and growls.
The game portrays everyone as trying to use you and a bunch of ideologs. The anarchs are a bunch of crybabies complaining all the time, pointing fingers at everyone acting like a bunch of antifa idiots. Lacroix is a weak cunt trying to use more powerful people. Queen bitch is fucking insane and her replacement was imminent. The Camarilla are a bunch of cowards hiding in the shadows and waiting for the right moment to strike. The Chinese vamps are demons. The only people who deserve any attention in the game are Beckett and Jack, the only ones who actually care and help. If you did not get the lonewolf ending you are a fucking retard and you deserve to be a proud member of Antifa and receive some of those fresh anticapitalism freedom bux from your friendly communist Soros megacorps.
Jordan Cooper
>It'll have an Old tunnels episode.
Brody Ward
The game portrays the anarchs as the most sensible faction. The only thing you can really do is poke fun at them a few times in dialogue. In terms of ACTUAL choices you can't kill any of the Anarchs or harm them or screw them over except maybe giving them the finger if you go independent (you still get rid of Lacroix, which helps them anyways). In-game >Nines saves you from getting killed >Jack shows you the ropes and gives you aid when no one else is willing to help you >Nines saves you from the Sabbat when you enter Hollywood >Nines protects you from one of the werewolves None of the Anarchs make any objective mistakes or do anything objectively bad either while Strauss fucks up when he accidentally lets his enslaved gargoyle go loose.
There is no way you can join Lacroix without dying, or join Ming without dying either. This is combined with the fact that VtM as a tabletop has a recurring theme about the old generation and traditions screwing over the younger generation, the Anarchs generally embrace new blood and criticize the elders while the Camarilla and Lacroix emphasize respecting the elders and people of higher status than you
Noah Ward
>The only people who deserve any attention in the game are Beckett and Jack, the only ones who actually care and help. >Jack >care and help Hahaha oh wow, user. Jack is the string-puller of the game's plot. He only cares about you, because he needs you for his plan. Easily the most manipulative cunt in the game.
Gabriel Green
What I fear is ideologues would be played straight in current year and "Bash a fash" gangrel commies won't be implied to be a bunch of dumbasses still stuck in trivial human politics instead of waking up to the fact the only politics that matter to a vampire are Camarilla/Sabbat politics and powerplays
Elijah Murphy
>Seattle >This sort of game heavily features the streets at night What are the chances the PC has to fight a Phoenix Jones knockoff?
And still is the only one who helps you, so there you go. You are right that they try to look appealing just like I bet the antifa try to look righteous and open for everybody but they still look and talk like a bunch of clueless teenagers. At no time during the game did I feel like they were anything. The anarchs was just Nines, everyone else could f off. And I dont even consider Jack an anarch, he had a plan
Liam Rivera
You get upgraded to a Clan, and it might not be via Diablerie.
Asher Stewart
this is the studio behind the game before they change their name to hide the stink
i will not buy this shit if you can't romance in this game and yes i'm still seething because you can't date VV
Logan Lee
would be a nice nod
Blake Baker
>as the objective good guys
It really doesn't though, everyone is manipulating you and using you for their own personal gain, Nines really couldn't give two shits about you
The canon ending is telling everyone to fuck off desu senpai
Nolan White
>you need to pay more to play as a furry based, fuck furries
Gabriel Lewis
New headcanon Jack is in reality a venture that hates the fact that he was embraced by some pompous cunt so that he joined the Anarchs to take down the Camarilla and all the fucking ventures with him.
Justin Nelson
>man or woman I hope so. I want to play a male or female character without the options to choose over 9000 made-up genders.
All you can do now is laugh at the assclowns of gaming that is ResetERA and make parodies of them like comics and memes. They're hopeless to be normal as they're just beta-zombies in colorful wigs.
Jaxson Davis
Who cares? It's only outfits and BTS. The 24 hour EA will allow trolls to dab poorfags with spoilers.
Nolan King
>Romance That depends entirely on characters that are worth romancing. Something that is looking that it won't be the case in this game.
Welp looks like I'm gonna allow myself to be jewed.
Adam Sanders
This, even the thinblood seer on the beach said you can trust only 2 people in the game. The lone wolf (Beckett) The man on the coach (Cab driver)
Jack is doing pretty much the same LaCroix is doing, with the difference that if you make good decisions he will leave you alone in the end.
William Hernandez
>it's cosmetics >the other is two story DLC and and expansion I don't care for the cosmetics so i bought the one that includes the expansion. I fucked up when i was buying Dark Souls 2 and had to pay extra for each DLC separately now i will not make the same mistake. Buying with the preorder is cheaper. I also preordered on GOG so that's a plus.
Tyler Wright
same, i fucking hate the fact that i'm willingly letting myself get jewed for a fucking hat
he helped you out at the beginning, the bloodhunt and then indirectly warns you not to open it using Beckett as a proxy you're a retard if you can't figure this out fledging
Don't lie. You're doing it for Jeanettes slut outfit.
Bentley Reyes
What are the chances of a DLC where you play as a Hunter, you think? What about the chances of running up against a mage/the Technocracy, or maybe a Fae or something?
>The game portrays the anarchs as the most sensible faction. Only LaCroix is shown to be always bad, other Camarilla members like Tung and Strauss are decent. Tung even gives you a good explanation as to why the Camarilla is better than the Anarchs, even if LaCroix sucks.
You're seeing what you want to see. Other characters like Beckett even push you to being independent. And Damsel is made fun of for being a raging gommunist, even Skelter doesn't really like her.
Nolan Baker
for me its tremere, the best vamp clan in the world
Oh its 5e VtM? Enjoy your black tranny muslim terrorist Anarch leader as your designated boss.
James Reed
>he man on the couch
Now that I think about it, you can trust Mercurio after you save him, cab driver is also straight forward and neutral whatever decision you take, and Romero, never lies to you. All are the "man on the couch"
Austin Miller
>he fucked up with his gargoyle and you have to clean up his mess That's more of a Tremere issue, not really the Camarilla
Asher White
>VtMB shits on Bush and Republicans >no one cares >VtMB portrays the Anarchs, the faction with a woke Che-Guevara wannabe commie grill that's led by a Hispanic who lived during the Great Depression, as the objective good guys who regularly help and save you while Lacroix, the wealthy elite is objectively evil >no one cares >Bloodlines 2 mentions the advancement of technology as a political theme >RUH ROH BETTER HOPE THE PLOT ISN'T TOO LEFTIST
John Williams
>Implying clan adds anything aside from 1-2 lines of text
Friendly reminder that Paradox turned the degenerate part of White Wolf's staff into blood packs.
Jaxson Bennett
Sure, but the Anarchs never outright screw up as badly as he does. There is no moment where Damsel fucks up for being too outspoken or something and you have to fix her shit. Their priorities in-game are mostly around helping the city
The light jabs you can have towards Damsel/the other Anarchs and Tung talking about the Camarilla are very surface level compared to the actual role the Anarchs have in the game, their involvement in the plot, and the amount of time you spend with them
Leo Anderson
2010s is the decade that took a shit on entertainment, can't wait we move out of this phase and get media where everything isn't driven by irl politics 90% of the time.
Levi Green
I mean, it's completely useless to get hyped or interested without seeing examples of the gameplay, or, at the very least, the writing quality.
It is very uncommon for lightning to strike twice. I believe this is going to be a "be careful what you wish for" moment in gaming.
Samuel Sanchez
>we want them to feel powerful and sexy Aww ysss. I can finally play muh oc (please do not steal) powerful and sexy fat thin blood Nosferatu with a feminine penis and pronouns das/DickGoblin.
>Jack is friends with cabby >cabby drops you off in L.A. after you fucked up the warehouse >get assaulted within seconds of leaving the cab, because cab driver totally didn't tell Jack where he would drop you and Jack totally didn't put the word out that the guy who fucked the warehouse would turn up there >Nines just so happens to stroll by, because Jack totally didn't arrange for that. Pure coincidence. >tells you about the place where he hangs out >oh hey isn't that where my super best friend Jack said he would be. Man these anarchs must be all cool dudes. I should totally do whatever they tell me.
Gavin Moore
>PRE ORDER EXCLUSIVES! >3 different preorder editions!!! I'm unhappy with that too. Wish they would've sold a t shirt and music CD for deluxe like VtMB did. Already showing some problems with modern games which isn't a good sign.
Nolan Evans
All those crackers complaing itt thread is hilarious.
YOU are going to play it anyways, because >90% of Yea Forums is pirates >90% of you will be thirsty for the porn mods
>Yea Forums tells the libs to make their own games >they do, using a very liberal game as the base >LEAVE GAMING ALONE REEEEEE Have you niggers tried not being as mentally ill as SJW?
Luis Myers
>Anarchs >the objective good guys
WOW you misread the plot, holy fuck how can you be so wrong
Landon Harris
>Sure, but the Anarchs never outright screw up as badly as he does. Anarchs were losing California to the Kuei-jin, partially from being weaker than the Camarilla
>go to a super secret meeting with Nines that only the Anarchs know where he is >the one in the fucking forest >oh look a man made fire >oh look fucking werewolves outta nowhere >oh look Jack is conveniently there to save us before the sun fries us >it's time to pick a side kiddo
Fuck off Jack.
Jack Rodriguez
Solo ending better be cannon.
FUCK THE CAMARILLA! FUCK THE ANARCHS! FUCK THE CHINESE!
Sebastian Martin
>hurr y game did ting bak den and every 1 ok wit it but not now no moh Why do you idiots always purposefully miss the point? It's been explained to you a million times and you keep repeating the same dumb shit. It's like you go out of your way to be stupid.
That's completely backstory though, and the Kuei Jin are enemies of all the Kindred anyways, it's equally a fuck-up on the Camarilla's part. You don't actually personally see any of the Anarchs screw up or make mistakes
This is what I mean, whatever can be interpreted as negative towards the Anarchs and/or positive to the Camarilla is simply said in offhand comments. But what you actually SEE is >Nines saving you from getting executed by LaCroix, who only changes his mind after the negative reception >Jack giving you advice and helping you during the tutorial while none of the other factions give a shit >The Anarchs generally sending you on quests based on the needs and issues of the city, as opposed to LaCroix and Strauss who are mostly for their own self-interest >Nines saving you from getting ambushed by the Sabbat in Hollywood >Nines protecting you from a werewolf >LaCroix betrays you by calling a bloodhunt on you, every vampire is out to get you and only Jack helps you
Logan Perry
>a society in which gender literally doesn't matter because reproduction is achieved without the need for sex >a society in which power and age is everything, with simple physical strength having close to no value because it can be easily amplified through magic >widespread misogyny exists
Wow. I guess they had to invent it specifically to insert this character into the setting. Still having troubles imagining some random ass prince telling a fifth generation wamyn to go and make him a blood sandwich.
Michael Mitchell
This, especially as Gangrel after you finished all the lessons and extra dialogue with beckett, It's oh so precious.
Chinese worst ending, only marginally better than giving the city to the wizards
Wyatt Perez
what the fuck is this thrash????
Ian Campbell
Imagine being so contrarian you'd put Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines totally broken combat over TW3's functional but boring system.
Liam Wood
>its a Yea Forumsbabby seeing the source material for the first time episode
heh
Easton Powell
No, I'm just a slav and I thought all that LGBT shit was just a western meme.
Ian Watson
>Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines totally broken combat I think it's fun once you figure out all the melee quirks, and I have no problems with stats affecting firearm accuracy/damage, but I couldn't finish Witcher because the gameplay was just boring and the setting didn't do much for me
Leo Cox
>confirmed trannies >confirmed to be full of leftwing and feminist propaganda I am not hyped
Oliver Scott
Combat is like 5-10% of The Witcher 3 and maybe like 20-30% of The Witcher 2. If you find the world boring then yeah, you're gonna be bored and not finish the game.
Lincoln Walker
Why are people defending the SJW stuff? Are you shilling or just lying to yourself it won't be bioware-tier shit
Leo Long
This game will have 2 groups people who outright hate it for not living up to the first and new players who jumped on the hype wagon. There are so many things they can screw up, but I don't even need to play the game to know they've fucked up already.
I hope the dev play the first game and ask why did this end up be a cult classic/hit then go from there. Otherwise the game will be meh.
You're clan choice will limit your skill so you can't be a jack of all trades build so that play time seems fair for 2-3 playthroughs+mods
Landon Hernandez
>Jeanette outfit I assume we get to crossdress, yes?
Jack Moore
Loser wants to waste 100 hours on a video game.
William Baker
You only SEE what you just said if you're heavily biased toward commie vampires. VTMB is an extreme clusterfuck of vamps trolling vamps, and everyone trying to play out their agenda with you being caught in the middle of it. For example:
>Nines saving you from getting executed by LaCroix He knows it would undermine the prince's authority, he doesn't give a shit about the fledgeling
>Jack giving you advice and helping you during the tutorial while none of the other factions give a shit He does that because he sees you as instrumental into fulfilling his plot, since you have no concrete loyalties
>The Anarchs generally sending you on quests based on the needs and issues of the city, as opposed to LaCroix and Strauss who are mostly for their own self-interest Plain false. Lacroix doesn't send you on social missions, but whenever you complete a mission that preserves the masquerade, Strauss gives you money and stresses that you're doing good work. Just because he doesn't give you a fist bump doesn't mean he's not interested in protecting kindred.
>Nines saving you from getting ambushed by the Sabbat in Hollywood See >Nines protecting you from a werewolf Except he get's dragged off by a werewolf leaving you to fend for yourself. Also see >LaCroix betrays you by calling a bloodhunt on you, every vampire is out to get you and only Jack helps you Lacroix is not the Camarilla. He's a power hungry cunt. Jack only helps you to sow chaos and dissent.
Parker Allen
I have to agree, name 1 (ONE) great vidya with a great revival, you literally can't.
>inb4 Doom It was OK
Evan Allen
>Who cares about improvements >We're about diversity now Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas
Jaxson Roberts
Horrible gay shit.
Nathan Flores
>zoomers who didn't play the first game
Get the fuck out.
Noah Robinson
>This is joke right?
VTMB was also 25-30 hours long. Of course it can take 60h for one playthrough if you really enjoy it and take your time. It's always been like that with that kind of game.
Eli Martin
They are some of the leading DLC jews in the industry. They mainly publish /gsg/ vidya so they don't have the widest audiance, but anyone who has played EUIV or Crusader kings knows they literally require hundreds of dollars of DLC to become playable.
Blake Phillips
>no literally "nothing" about the story >sprouts some meme and is negative
Why are you like this my dude? This doom and gloom behavior + parnoia/racism might get you some (you)s, but its terrible for your overall health. You just become depressed asf.
Robert Sanders
I don't need your gender pronouns, I don't need your meme DLC and I don't need to ask for consent in my video games. I wholeheartedly believe your game will flop and at least some of you will lose your jobs, because you don't fucking deserve them. Faggots.
Julian Smith
Well, looks like I have to start my annual playthrough a bit sooner. I'm so hyped bros, this'll fill the gap between DMC5 and SMTV very nicely.
Kill yourself, you smelly loser. The first game was a bunch of goth faggots and it was appropriate for the theme. This is just a bunch of scarf wearing hipster cunts.
Leo Harris
>trannies
David Wright
>Jack only helps you to sow chaos and dissent. Do not forget Jack is embracing whomever he likes left and right only increasing the Caitiff numbers. Jack is not really an Anarch, he is an actual anarchist and wants to see the world (especially Ventrue) burn. He is your friend only as long as you are useful to him.
Levi Sullivan
I think the fact that much more people are bitching about the identity politics of the character creator rather than the announcement of a season pass (and its name implying multiple season passes) at the same time as the game's announcement is really telling of what this place has turned into.
Lincoln Turner
How many lewd/nude mods have you installed?
Kevin Robinson
Nothing, they're the best developer out there. People who whine about DLC are morons who don't realise CK2 DLC has extended the game's life and replayability from a year to a decade
John Watson
>objective good guys
ya, that really came across as they bitched at you and used you for their own ends.
Jace Wood
It's almost as if social trends/cliques have changed since the mid-nineties.
Christopher Russell
nice headcanon, it has as much backing as me saying >La Croix wants to get rid of both sabbath and you discreetly >after blowing up the warehouse, he leaks intel about you to the Sabbath so they could do his dirty work for him while the anarch can't pin the blame on him >Jack catches wind of it and sends Nines your way to intercept >he knows your exact location because Caine is the driver >Nines missing >but some members of the anarch knows the location and so does jack, the mc gets his info straight from the anarchs so this is very plausible >la croix's fuckboy just came and asked about nines and about to meet him, jack follows, or not >suddenly there's smoke from the mountains shit is going down >la croix just announced a bloodhunt on the newkid, the timing is too perfect >wait at the bottom of the mountain so the kid can escape
you even listed out the reason jack wishes to save him yourself, the kid is a good pawn and he wants to make him last
as far as headcanon goes it's as believable as yours
I do think the anarchs timing as well nines was a little too convinent but the fire that aggravated the werewolves was obviously lacroix since he wants you dead the most
David Perez
>very angry&triggered easily >parroting buzzwords >knows nothing about the game, but makes assumptions
Do you have fun in your life? I suggest you seek professional help before you actually kill yourself by being this jaded, depress and angry.
Remember anger is a beta behavior (lack of control) and comes from fear.
>VtMB portrays the Anarchs, the faction with a woke Che-Guevara wannabe commie grill that's led by a Hispanic who lived during the Great Depression, as the objective good guys who regularly help and save you lol did you even play the game?
Henry Cook
Glad to see someone understands the Jihad and the vampire politics
I'm autistic How can I find an online IM based pnp vampire group that is friendly to newbies?
Tyler Jenkins
>Jihad This is so problematic, we don't use that term anymore.
Jack Wilson
It's almost like the motiff of the game is a massive political shitstorm and everyone wants to use everyone for their ends. Almost like it was in one of the loading screens.
Jeremiah Bell
>just pretend to be happy like me :) >i mutilated myself for the sake of an idea because i was so lonely i was on the verge of killing myself You are significantly more likely to kill yourself than anyone else in this thread, and you'll likely take someone with you.
Nolan Nguyen
>romance Nope. Also don't forget gender pronouns and Paradox publishing.
Dylan Reyes
>He knows it would undermine the prince's authority, he doesn't give a shit about the fledgeling This is your headcanon, there is nothing in the game that confirms this while the game makes it very obviously clear that 1. LaCroix doesn't give a shit about you and 2. LaCroix wants the sarcaphogus for himself
>He does that because he sees you as instrumental into fulfilling his plot, since you have no concrete loyalties Sure, but he is your first introduction to the Anarchs regardless of how he is by the very end of the game and he is the only one willing to help you. There is no "Camarilla" equivalent that can help you or show up or no "neutral" party that helps you
>Plain false. Lacroix doesn't send you on social missions, but whenever you complete a mission that preserves the masquerade, Strauss gives you money and stresses that you're doing good work. Just because he doesn't give you a fist bump doesn't mean he's not interested in protecting kindred. LaCroix outright admits by the very end that he only wanted the Sarcaphogus for himself. Strauss only sends you on an errand to cover his own ass, the Anarchs do nothing like that. And it is literally impossible to ally with LaCroix without dying. The game basically calls you a retard for siding with him >cabby Is entirely your headcanon, there is nothing in the game confirming this. Besides, I thought Jack was manipulating Nines? >Except he get's dragged off by a werewolf leaving you to fend for yourself. Also see Because he got fucking attacked. If he wasn't there you would have to fend with two werewolves. Did he stage all of that too?
>Lacroix is not the Camarilla. He's a power hungry cunt. Jack only helps you to sow chaos and dissent. It doesn't change the fact that only Jack helps you by the very end. Strauss doesn't give a shit when shit hits the fan and you have a bloodhunt, the Camarilla doesn't help you either.
The game is very obviously slanted towards portraying the Anarchs well
Nathan Bennett
Spoke like a true camarilla
Noah Wilson
But the Jyhad doesn't exist. t. Esau
Ryan Peterson
yes which was exactly ehy I said the plot was great and I doubt the new writers can make something as good, at best it'll be halfway there which I definitely would not mind but I have a gut feeling it'll become something like captain marvel where they try to shove their message through the medium so damn hard it gets obnoxious.
>still triggered I though I was in 4channel not Twitter (formerly Tumblr)
Julian Rogers
>the announcement of a season pass That had me worried when I first looked at the Steam page.
Long before this announcement I was more excited about the idea of playing VtMB in virtual reality than getting a sequel because I don't think a sequel can ever live up. So I'll be happy if it doesn't turn out to be complete shit, but I won't be surprised either and will still enjoy the original with future potential to expand on it.
Logan Hughes
>still triggered I'm not the guy you were arguing with previously, I just felt the need to interject, because you're a shit shovelling waste of resources and you unironically should just kill yourself, i encourage your urges to do so.
James Parker
And that ambiguity is what good writing is all about. About 15 years after the game release, we still debate over these wild, but plausible, theories.
VTMB2 is gonna break my heart with shit writing, I just know it.
Oliver Bennett
>VR vtm:b where I can fling shit at the penthouse at la croix's smug face and he can't do shit about it >get to rub your hand all over the sheriff's face nice I'll take it
Matthew Thompson
(you)
Jeremiah Cox
So because Kubrick turned the Shining into kino I have to like Steven Kings shit writing?
Luis Perry
are a faggot
Grayson Gomez
The Shining book is legitimately fine
Jeremiah Morales
>LaCroix pretends to be camarilla, is in fact power hungry cunt, wants the sarcophagus >Jack pretends to be anarch, is in fact solely focused on fucking with ventrue, he wants LaCroix to go boom >Nines and his cronies Anarch nice guy, wants you to side with them because the city is theirs and camarilla is icky >Strauss Camarilla nice guy, he just wants the in fighting to stop, anarchs are petulent children >Kuei-jin teh invading hordes >Sabbat teh end is nigh and we LIKE IT guys
If you belive there are "good guys" in this game, and you are more than a tool for any Kindred except Beckett it's only a proof how great the game was written and voiced to convince you of it.
If anything, Hollywood anarchs, Nosferatu and Tremere are the only fuctioning factions. Even when they use you they do so without higher motives, which is actually refreshing. Both Strauss and Nines even apears to trust you which is a greatest proof of their incompetence and unsuitability for the role they want.
Leo Butler
As someone who got into the universe with Bloodlines i give zero fucks about this
Chase Robinson
It's gonna be like Disney SW, isn't it?
Nathan Powell
>pay attention to me I'm so mad REEEEE Don't worry we are all here for (you) :)
Matthew Miller
I don't believe that LaCroix was keeping tabs on you. He gave you a task that should be all but impossible to complete for a fledgeling, so he probably considered you dead the moment you stepped out of the theater.
Benjamin Richardson
You forgot to mention its and fps, meaning the combat will be fucking dogshit. This is how combat should be in a vampire game:
>Okay so who would have handled it better? Because you just described everybody out there that makes games as far as I'm concerned.
Capcom or Team Ninja.
Christopher Bailey
dumb nigger
Joshua Kelly
Kuei-jin aren't even vampires.
Jason Powell
In VtM part of the curse is your inhumanity, sexual desire is more or less supplanted by feeding. You need to waste blood points to even engage your dangly bits. The fact Jaenette fucks in the first game is meant to be a sign of how fucking crazy she is.
No, Kue-Jin are a completely different thing from the western vampire
Adrian Martin
Original writer and Avellone, go fuck yourselves doomer trash, you will never find happiness
Mason Gutierrez
>25-30 hours Probably the worst part about this info. Cautiously optimistic.
Jordan Parker
>CAN CHOOSE YOUR PRONOUNS >MALK IS TONED DOWN TO NOT UPSET PEOPLE OH NO NO NO
David Martin
>Malk isn't a fishmalk That's a good thing user
Christopher Scott
>1.LaCroix doesn't give a shit about Correct. Neither does Nines.
>2.LaCroix wants the sarcaphogus for himself Agreed. As I mentioned, Lacroix is a cunt that only naive idiots would side with.
>Sure, but he is your first introduction to the Anarchs regardless of how he is by the very end of the game and he is the only one willing to help you. I kinda see your point and I guess you can make that case, but that whole theory falls apart when you see the meta-story and Jack's motivations. Sure he shows you the ropes, but he also stages the whole sarcophagus drama that makes every kindred in the city lose their shit. He's "kind" to the MC, but he's definitely not well meaning.
>Strauss only sends you on an errand to cover his own ass, the Anarchs do nothing like that. Oh you man like that black guy that sends you to kill a girl to protect the masquerade because some anarch toreador fed her blood and up and left?
>It doesn't change the fact that only Jack helps you by the very end The only help he provides is allowing you to pick your own poison in the end. He never reveals his plot, while knowing you're caught up in the middle of it.
>Strauss doesn't give a shit when shit hits the fan and you have a bloodhunt Except once you go to his chantry and proclaim loyalty to the camarilla he has your back. Until that point you're only Lacroix's errand boy.
Nicholas Hughes
Obtuse cunt. The point is, your garbage taste aside, is that the source material does not have to be good just because it was adapted well.
Adam Young
>people unironically hyped for a masquerade game in 2019 made by paradox along with it's going to be trash that shits on the lore, isn't anything like the first and is buggy as fuck on release
Nathaniel Young
The point is, that you are only now seeing the source material to a game you love, more than a decade later.
Jordan Mitchell
>isn't anything like the first >is buggy as fuck on release Pick one
Julian Campbell
63 DLCs, SIXTY FUCKING THREEE DLCs to experience CC2 fully, costing you nearly 300 dollars THREE HUNDRED in total if you include the base game.
Fucking kill yourself you shiteating paradox shill, I'm not supporting their company for as long as I live.
There are a lot of salty zoomers who are buttman us boomers are getting great game Don't worry, I'm sure EA will come out with Fortnight 2 or whatever soon
Jose Martin
TPP FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
Elijah Rodriguez
They love to make things dlc. Like small things you'd have in the game normally.
Caleb Lopez
You're retarded, most of those DLC are wholely optional stuff like music packs. Playing CK2 comes down to maybe spending $30 a year to keep it up to date, it's a fucking old game, and those "scammy jewish DLC" are what has kept it alive and fun even to this day
Jackson Harris
>to experience CC2 fully Seriously fuck off my dude
Thomas Cruz
>Your favourite company >Lets release a stand alone sequel every year for $60 with half the features removed or reworked and shit nobody wants added Compare >Paradox >Lets release expansion packs for our game once every year for $20 that do nothing but add new features, complexity, and fun to the game Casual scum go home
Aiden Wilson
>He plays VtMB for gameplay
Brandon Ortiz
>People who whine about DLC are morons who don't realise CK2 DLC has extended the game's life and replayability from a year to a decade
Why hasn't Paradox EVER in their entire release of their title released a collection/master collection edition including the base game with some current DLC releases like most companies do like for example CDPR and the Witcher 3 and all their DLCs and yet for a fucking decade still as individually selling CC2 as a base game title where you need to buy fully priced DLC incrementally?
Isaac Evans
And now take out all the fucking unit skin packs
Leo Rivera
Threadly reminder to ignore shitposters. I don't know how I feel about the devs.
>she has preferred pronouns on her twitter bio Wew.
John Ramirez
Malk in VtMB was written by someone who was sleep deprived, so it seems fitting for that. But otherwise, stuff like Strauss telling the Malk his craziness is insightful to the right person was good too, I just hope it doesn't turn into "you're not crazy just unique and we don't have to take your insights/madness seriously :)"
Hunter Long
So what are these games like? Are they similar to the Deus Ex games?
Leo Hernandez
The game literally has LaCroix betraying you by calling a bloodhunt, then has him laughing evilly and maniacially when he acquires the Sarcophagus.
There is nothing in-game where Nines does anything close to that. In fact he repeatedly saves you over and over again. This is why thinking he is comparable to LaCroix is your headcanon, the actual game objectively portrays him as far better than LaCroix
>I kinda see your point and I guess you can make that case, but that whole theory falls apart when you see the meta-story and Jack's motivations. Sure he shows you the ropes, but he also stages the whole sarcophagus drama that makes every kindred in the city lose their shit. He's "kind" to the MC, but he's definitely not well meaning. There is no one else in the game who helps you other than him. Regardless of the meta the game deliberately tries to show the Anarchs in a positive light by having him be the only one who helps you and introducing him that way
>Oh you man like that black guy that sends you to kill a girl to protect the masquerade because some anarch toreador fed her blood and up and left? Was not an anarch Toreador
>The only help he provides is allowing you to pick your own poison in the end. He never reveals his plot, while knowing you're caught up in the middle of it. You wouldn't even get an independent ending in the end if he didn't save you. And once again, no one but him offers to help you. The game is deliberately trying to portray the Anarchs in a positive light
Tyler Reyes
Because they're not catering to zoomers like you who were too young to get to play it vanilla They're literally catering to their most loyal fans and you're crying, as if other companies that do shit like say "we want the call of duty audience" and churn out abortions like DA2
Brody Scott
Only a fool would trust the ramblings of a Malkavian Only a fool would ignore the ramblings of a Malkavian
Connor Kelly
>"fans" crawling out of the woodwork >half the posters haven't even played the game fuck off retards
Benjamin Stewart
Redemption is more of a dungeon crawler like Diablo, I think. I didn't play it too much. But VtMB gets described as "Deus Ex with vampires".
>man or woman - usual character options you forgot pronouns
Cameron Reyes
It doesn't matter if they hired Jesus to work on it, paradox will ruin it.
Grayson Lewis
Happens with any series that gets a long-awaited sequel. I think people are just bored and look for things to shitpost about.
Chase Perry
Well fuck me I love both Diablo and Deus Ex and vampires are cool as fuck. Is the best place to get these on GoG I assume? Do they /need/ mods?
Connor Wilson
VtMB from GoG comes with a patch, so you don't need to do anything for that. Not sure about Redemption.
Eli Roberts
Holy fucking shit you people actually exist. I though whales were a fucking myth in this industry, shitters who would spend hundreds of dollars by being a literal incremental siphoning sheep. No wonder why companies like EA will never change, because there will always be an idiot like you to support this habit.
>Another year of pumping diarrhea your way, here is some random absolute dogshit for a DLC. You're not a casual are you?
Angel Turner
>The point is, that you are only now seeing the source material to a game you love, more than a decade later.
And it looks like shit.
Jason Hughes
I've got a folder full of vampire porn that says otherwise
Oliver Phillips
Yeah I don't get it either. It gets announced and we conveiently have tons of >lol I haven't played the game but- >lol should I play the game now? >lol I'm not familiar with the game but- on top of the whining from "true fans". Really makes you think.
>There is nothing in-game where Nines does anything close to that. In fact he repeatedly saves you over and over again. Nines is using you, everyone is using you. Nines just isn't anti-pathic towards you like LaCroix. For LaCroix, you're existence is an unliving embarrassment and testament to his lack of control. Every night you continue to not be dusted shows him up because by 'right' you should be dead as an illegal turn but he can't act without starting a war with Nines, a war he doesn't know he can win.
Meanwhile, Nines cares about you but inasmuch as a sticking point against LaCroix. The Anarchs are generally shown in a positive light but they're also undisciplined and unrealistic, filled with hot headed youngsters and idealists.
Justin Cruz
Anybody who puts pronouns in their bio should be hanged Hell, anybody who uses twitter should be
Hudson Bailey
>tfw years upon years of comfy VtMB threads on Yea Forums >against all odds a sequel is announced >every thread about it is an absolute fucking shambles about identity politics State of this place.
Jayden Reed
>Nines is using you, everyone is using you. And once again there is nothing in the game that suggests this. LaCroix betrays you. LaCroix admits he just wanted the Sarcophagus. LaCroix literally laughs evilly as he opens it. You literally have an entire quest dedicated to killing LaCroix. Where in the game is there anything like this by Nines? Where is the point in the game where you have to kill Nines because you figure out he was manipulating you? Where is the point in the game where someone from the Camarilla does something similar to what Nines does in saving you? It's nowhere, which is why that's all in your headcanon. The Anarchs are objectively portrayed in a positive light
Elijah Williams
This, shit's gonna suck hard, it's bad enough it's got a lot to live up for.
>And once again there is nothing in the game that suggests this you are literally told this, to your face. By Jack. By the Thinblood on the beach. By Beckett.
Elijah Long
And why weren't those empire specific skins like seeing Horn of African kingdoms look like their historical self included in the base game?
Nigger if you were actually into the tabletop game you would know that the catholic church started a new inquisition on the kindred and killed shitloads of them. This already proves that the camarilla was right about the need of the masquerade.
Niggers and trannies are a threat to the camarilla. When one is screaming for gibs and the others for equalized representation in power how can you ever get shit down?
He is absolutely based and a true Ventrue.
Luis Rivera
Day one .mod to turn all tranny vampires into Nosferatu?
Asher Roberts
>Jack doesn't refer to Nines specifically, he just says that you can't trust other vampires in general
>Thinblood on the beach >Beckett They tell you this but there is nothing in the game that actually confirms it. Thinblood never specifically says Nines is untrustworthy, she just implies that the only people you can trust is Mercurio and Beckett. And Beckett is obviously biased, he's literally a lone wolf. The game has character TELL you he can't be trusted but the game never confirms it by SHOWING you he can't be trusted
>Handful of vague comments that you totally can't trust this guy vs >Nothing in the actual game showing Nines betraying you, while the game actually shows LaCroix betraying you
Andrew Lewis
at least it's not a gender slider
Kevin Watson
that's some Disc level 5 mental gymnastics there, Fishmalk
Gavin Stewart
It's like 1$ on gog atm, just try it, the story is kinda good, but nothing bloodlines level, it also becomes laughably easy as you aquire disciplines.
Logan Harris
What's the price in the US Steam? For some reason the game is surprisingly cheap in Russia.
Jacob Collins
How is that wrong? How is an NPC making an offhand comment more significant than the game >dedicating an entire quest to killing the guy who betrayed you >having entire cutscenes dedicated to showing the guy betraying you
The game never actually shows Nines doing anything wrong and only shows him helping you. You are only told through ofhand comments that the Anarchs are bad, not demonstrated it through gameplay or the actual story, and usually by people who are obviously biased.
Cooper Moore
doesn't matter the writing itself is going to be fucked see
John Allen
>Buying it on Steam lel
Kayden Hill
So what ending is canon in vtmb?
Isaiah Williams
That's one of several possible outcomes. If you have very high willpower then the victim's soul is completely assimilated and they disappear. If you fail your willpower check then the victim takes over you and you can also disappear for good. There are in-betweens of this like regaining some personality traits of the victim.
Logan Adams
I don't see what's so triggering about that basic bitch Is it the pronouns? She looks like a real woman, not a tranny
She sympathises with the mentally ill people which is bad enough.
Samuel Nguyen
this is largely because the game was unfinished
Eli Hall
The world ended a couple of days after your escapades with the sarcophagus.
Gavin Davis
She constantly praises Anita and bitched about the rape scene in Hotline Miami 2 in an article she wrote among other things. I doubt she'll be able to keep her biases out when writing for VTMB2.
Anthony Hernandez
I'm going to guess independent since it sounds like the cleanest way of handling things. Ming and LaCroix both dead and the Fledgling's whereabouts unknown makes the most sense to me considering how fucking strong they were.
Nope. V5 made it so all the signs for Gehenna were false. This game is set 15 years after the first.
Cooper Garcia
>he doesn't like malkavians super pleb desu
James Reed
>choose your clan later in the game
So wait why would my PC eat a Nossie or Malkavian.
Juan Russell
And the devs prioritized the Anarchs over everyone else
So regardless, the game objectively portrays the Anarchs in a good light and the devs thought it was better to portray the Anarchs in a good light than anyone else. And the endproduct still portrays the Anarchs as better than anyone else regardless of the actual devs intent
Jack Howard
That's odd, usually the blood gets off at the second floor.
Yeah, but why would vampires have sex? They don't have libido and even if they feel the pleasure of it, it's nothing compared to feeding. It's like heroin to them. I was honestly happy with this, I'm not a fan of weirdos using vampire stories for their weird sex fantasies.
Matthew Kelly
>RPS article mentions multiple factions to ally with Sabbat included?
There is also that tiny little fact that she looks and acts like a walking stereotype. Don't know why, considering this, you feel the need to go into details about the token female writer #427.
Jonathan Morgan
>paradox Those swedecucks can't even make good games
Daniel Collins
Yea Forums would post the exact same kinda shit
>even their logo looks like a shovel lmao
Gavin Perez
Based and redpilled.
Grayson Roberts
>playing as Sabbat Never ever.
Ryder Long
So it is retarded to whine about politics when the original game >portrays the Anarchs, the faction with a woke Che-Guevara wannabe commie grill that's led by a Hispanic who lived during the Great Depression, as the objective good guys who regularly help and save you while Lacroix, the wealthy elite is objectively evil Next time actually play the game you want to whine about, fake gamerbro
Brayden Parker
pcgamer.com/hotline-miami-2-wrong-number-1/ >This is what those hordes of gamers who constantly hound the academic Anita Sarkeesian, creator of Tropes vs Women in Video Games barrage her mailbox with. I can't take anyone who calls Anita an academic seriously.
Jonathan Wright
Dude, c'mon. It's obvious that they're using The Anarchs as a mouthpiece for their Marxist ideology.
Caleb Foster
What if your clan gets determined by your pronouns?
No, you fucking dumbass, the Sabbat are the bad guys.
Ethan Robinson
>can choose a Clan, but not directly at the start
Starting as a caitiff?
This shit began with the wrong foot
Lucas Hill
From what I remember sex for vampires is like watching TV, it's pretty entertaining but obviously feeding is much better. That said there can be love without sex, I'm sure Kindred couples existing is nothing new especially with Toreador being the way they are.
Jordan Foster
You could join the sabbat in redemption so why not ?
Juan Davis
This game is going to be another great addition to the DOA series
Colton Rivera
Also before anyone goes "B-BUT 1 TOOK POTSHOTS AT BUSH TOO!": There's a massive difference between a snide joke here and there, and fucking pronouns and far left talking points being pushed. It's like comparing Ridley and Rei: both are strong female characters, the former is a character that is female, while the latter is a social justice Mary Sue that makes legbeards squeal.
There's a big difference between subtle political commentary (or just a potshot or two) and full on virtue signalling. Also muh gender pronouns muh ebul right wing patriarchy is fucking sub 75 IQ brainlet commentary anyway, go look at Deus Ex for an example of decent commentary.
In the original, the fact that the character most representative of the faction is a literal red headed commie in Che Guevarra cosplay should tip you off that they're clowns.
Jose Watson
>Sabbat are the bad guys
yikes
Tyler Campbell
>hahaha who cares what resetera thinks >HEY Yea Forums LOOK RESETERA SAID SOMETHING AND I GOT A SCREENCAP!
yeah it makes me think that you niggers are faggots
So this preorder stuff, like Jeanette's and Jack's outfits. How does this work if the game is first person only?
They're not, not really. Sure, you got some basic psychos being part of them, but their end goal is actually quite reasonable: they want to fight off the Antediluvians in order to not get eaten when they wake up from torpor.
Wait, what? I don't remember this. I know Ecaterina joined the Sabbat, but not Christof. Or was that part of Beckett's Jyhad Diary?
They're objectively the only faction that regularly helps you and that you regularly interact with. It is extremely obvious from the game's perspective that they are meant to be portrayed in a positive light
Adrian Cooper
>literally violence good rape bad what a hypocrite. fuck.
not like i had much hope for a sequel being good anyway.
Eli Anderson
In the latest version of the pnp rpg the church fucked them up so hard that their remaining members became edgy anarchs.
William Rogers
see go you really think someone like that can make a good evenhanded story?
Hudson Robinson
Hilarious considering seattle is an actual shithole and only 20% of people tried for crimes are convicted there.
Carter Foster
Sure they can, it just pales in comparison to the pleasure of drinking blood. Obviously you never fucked Jeanette in Bloodlines
David Mitchell
How the hell could vampires not know mages exist when an entire clan comes from them? And some of them having lived hundreds if not thousands of years, on the paranormal side of existence?
Luis King
I wouldn't really know, I never had a character with humanity as a path. We played ancilae in my group to skip some of the overwrought "omg i'm so fucked up now" moments in VtM. Essentially autistic murder hobos who would flip their shit if something that went against their path happened.
Xavier Myers
>Wait, what? I don't remember this. I remember that there was a decision you could take in the modern times to join Ecatetina in the Sabbat.
Caleb Nelson
Only if you are a braindead hippie. Camarilla ending with strauss is the best.
Easton Watson
Just shut up you whiny fucking cunt, I'm so tired of you little shits who can't handle the "wrong" opinions, you're not different than Tumblr circa 2011 or Fox News before that
Just fucking learn to cope, holy shit
Jose Watson
Elders know about the Awakened, sure. But they also know to stay the fuck out of their way.
Joshua Watson
Guess i'm gonna wait for the goty
Dylan Bailey
They're meant to look as misguided and naive. They don't have real power, they were beaten by mongol vampires so bad, the camarilla was able to muscle in and now they're scared of the cammies too. Also, all that help they're supposedly offering you, in the end everyone just tries to take advantage of you. They're no better than the camarilla, they're just upset that they're not in charge.
You see a fair bit of this in the game - a lot of vampires simply don't know any of the history of their clans. And why would they, when the elders have a vested interest in controlling such information. Imagine actually teaching your newest members about how your clan founder was a diablerist, it'd encourage too many stupid ideas amongst the fledglings.
Daniel White
can't wait to pirate all this lol
Carson Diaz
The patrician choice
Levi Barnes
this. In the good ending you literally show the middle finger to the anarchs.
Jacob Martin
>cope >pleae stop fighting us, we're getting tired and can't keep getting proven wrong, just cope, PLEASE.
Hudson Roberts
it's only a problem if you are poor
Oliver Clark
The sarcophagus is full of explosives when it's opened at the end of the game
Serves you right for not playing the game already.
Noah Sanders
>They're meant to look as misguided and naive. That is literally just you projecting onto them. If there's one thing about the WoD it's that it's always straightforward. The vampire Sabbat Nazi who is organizing her pack like the SS is not meant ironic. It's just to show that the Sabbat is evil
Hunter Jones
I just want the game to be funny, tragic and well written.
Pretty much the entire reason why I loved the original is because it managed to maintain a tone that somehow made it possible to be fucking hilarious, creepy, sensual and legitimate at the same time.
I know it was very much a product of its time, right down to the team being a bit sloppy (The composer was fucked up on cocaine addiction and was arrested during development) but somehow that enabled it to be exactly what it wanted to be.
I know deep down that it's going to be sanitized and scrutinized in a way but at least the main writer's back. If Paradox fucks up and DLCs this shit up the ass, that's also gonna suck.
Asher Walker
Why don't you actually pay attention, all of these arguments have been addressed
The game only has a handful of NPCs tell you that the Anarchs are bad but the game never actually shows that the Anarchs are bad through the story or gameplay. In those cases they are almost always objectively portrayed positively
see Giving them the finger does nothing anyways because you still end up helping them by getting rid of LaCroix
Christopher Thomas
>Yet another secondary that didn't play the game and spews bullshit that didn't happen to sell his narrative
You literally tell the Anarchs to go fuck themselves by the ending since the game makes it clear every faction is just playing you.
I sincerely hope all of you are outted as the fucking /pol/ retards you are.
Evan Myers
the same reason a 5'3 beta manlet virgin would instinctively avoid confrontation with 6'5 alpha male, you wouldn't want to mess with a person that could easily squash you like a bug
Joshua Roberts
>Day -365 DLC It's fucked, by the way.
Jacob Gomez
The model sucks for new players, but for people who play the game from release, its awesome to get regular content and expansions 4+ years later.
Isaac Gonzalez
Is zoophilia and suicide still gonna be funny, or are they srs bsn now?
You'll be waiting until Gehenna......so next week by the way things have been going.
Logan Gonzalez
>It’s definitely taking political stances on what we think are right and wrong >The developer is taking a refreshing approach of weaving politics into the game, both in terms of narrative and gameplay. >Clooney says it’s central to Bloodlines 2 that the writers are actively taking a political stance in this sequel >gender pronouns >senior writer Cara Ellison >Ellison [...] worked as a narrative consultant on 2016’s Dishonored 2. >“It’s fifteen years later and things have changed,” Mitsoda said. “We have to be very sensitive about how we handle things like mental illness and that was a concern for us and for Paradox, in how we can make a mature story but if we do anything, we do our homework and make sure that we are punching up and not punching down.” >“It [VTMB] was a product of its time,” Ellison said of the first game. “It approached certain topics differently. How we look at stuff has matured since then.”
Jason Foster
see
Jackson Foster
WHY THE FUCK DOES Yea Forums HAVE TO RUIN ANOTHER GAME BECAUSE OF SOME POLITICS/SJW SHIT
STOP THIS FUCKING SHIT YOU FUCKING CUNTS AND JUST PLAY THE FUCKING VIDEO GAMES
You get your own personal brand of revenge. You help everyone except LaCroix by getting rid of LaCroix.
Alexander Russell
Fuck off you dumb tranny, stop pushing your shit ideology into games and I'll stop complaining. Go join that 40%.
Alexander Bailey
>helping them by getting rid of LaCroix And Strauss, the actually competent cammy is gonna take the reins You help everyone be offing the snail princess, LaCroix is insignificant in the greater picture, just like the the game was complete killing nines would be insignificant because Isaac would take over
Jose Peterson
it's this serie any good? never played it because vampires are lame
Joseph King
>hurr durr it's Yea Forums who puts the dogshit politics in games, it's all Yea Forums's fault Retard.
Jason Watson
lol at all the fragile white males in this thread.
Joseph Wright
>And Strauss, the actually competent cammy is gonna take the reins Nope, nothing in the game suggesting that. The Anarchs want to get rid of LaCroix in their ending, they don't try to get rid of Strauss. So you give them what they want, only differences if you give them the finger and don't join them
Jace Martinez
NO ITS PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT POLITICS, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND JUST PLAY A VIDEO GAME. YOU FUCKING RETARD
Isaac Gutierrez
I wonder how self-aware the game will be. I'm hoping for there being a sewer level and it's laughably short or something.
Jaxon Watson
so they will not waste time and resources on this useless shit good priorities
Owen Brown
>Modding is possible - Skyrim 2.0 Porn here we come not gonna happen, it's not going to have anywhere near the popularity of skyrim
Connor Stewart
>stop complaining about things you don't like, just accept it Unironically kill yourself.
Eli Turner
Hard to enjoy things when mentally ill people project their own shitty agendas into the things they're working on.
Gabriel Rivera
Oh shit lads, do you think you'll be able to play as a Tzimisce this time around?
What is the difference between losing 100 hours in one game or losing 100 hours with five games?
Ask you wallet.
Gavin Richardson
wealthy people who constantly flush money down the toilet usually don't stay wealthy
Ethan Bailey
>because you still end up helping them by getting rid of LaCroix
Because LaCroix wanted you dead, you stupid fucknuts. Doesn't change the fact that the story is extremely clear that no one's the good guy. Not even the guy who's described as the awesome vampire hero who helped you the entire fucking game. Everyone's an asshole using you.
Jackson Kelly
>we got illlegial turned into a vampire and the "tutorial" is about us being sentenced to death in a Camarilla courtroom
this shit again? Couldn't they at least think of a new way to start the fucking game
this game won't even come close to the raw fun of DMC5, i might consider pirating it but eh
Alexander Ortiz
Fuck off to /pol/ retard.
Carter Nelson
Because they took time to develop you nigger. If you played CK2 pre-dlc you would know it was 1/10th of what it is today even when playing as a catholic without any of the dlc's. Do you expect them to keep adding content to the game for free 7 fucking years after release?
Thomas Wilson
People trashing first person like they didnt play through 99% of Bloodlines in first person because its always infinitely more convenient
William Torres
Wrong. The Anarchs are regularly portrayed as the best faction who always help you. You're just told that they're using you without any actual proof in-game demonstrating that.
Luke Lopez
So, no-one is going to mention the fact that Bloodlines ended like, three days from gehenna, the literal end of the world?
Sebastian Morgan
>push ideology in a game >people disagree with said ideology >WOW HOW CAN THIS BE HAPPENING THIS SHOULDN'T BE LEGAL
Anthony King
>this game won't even come close to the raw fun of DMC5
DMC5 is easily my GOTY but why do you gotta be a faggot and post in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with it in any way, user?
>How does this work if the game is first person only? Mass Effect dialogues
Adam Perry
Are you saying that without LaCroix cammy will just shrug and disperse. Even if you do not join Camarilla nd Strauss, there is dialogue you can get of him where he says that LC is shitting things up and if not for the Gorilla he sould already make his move, because he is an old whizzard he does not move with the unknown factor of the sheriff. In the solo ending you take your revenge on LC, kill the snail helping the kindred but the Anarch/Cammy standoff is still in process, probably less strained without LC, but without you joining any faction its clear not much will change. You not only help Anarch, you also help Camarilla by blowing LC
Carter Bailey
>“It [VTMB] was a product of its time,” Ellison said of the first game. “It approached certain topics differently. How we look at stuff has matured since then.”
What does this mean, exactly?
Michael Richardson
Here to stay you dumb tranny abomination. Your disgusting agenda will never come to fruition. The people who previously stayed silent are becoming more open to speaking out against you freaks. You're alredy at the point of calling literally everyone other than trannies "/pol/ retards".
Jacob Phillips
well, i hope if it turns out to to be shit that it'll at least get more people to play vtmb1 before/after vtmb2
Elijah Cruz
Orange man bad
Christian Butler
This, there's no reason for them to have a sex drive. They're effectively all eunuchs.
Josiah Jackson
Is this a remake or a new game?
William Sanchez
this game won't even come close to the raw fun of XCOM, i might consider pirating it but eh
William Wood
>being a shovelhead from a mass embrace >in any way comparable to the first game
John Rodriguez
Oh shut the fuck up you lowlife piece of shit nobody here cares about politics but you retards. If you didn't spam your retarded shit we could God forbid have a normal video game discussion for once.
Landon Rivera
Ah ah jokes on you I specialized on hand to hand combat it was a mistake, the chink vamp was a bitch and I had to switch to guns
Leo Torres
>VTMB 2 Its obviously a remake
Nathan Sanders
Wasn't that how the shovelheads recruited though?
Samuel Jenkins
>IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE IT GOES AGAINST MY NARRATIVE AND I *NEED* TO BE RIGHT WHEN BARFING POLITICS INTO MY VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING ELSE
You do you, champ.
Alexander Moore
He's referring to those side quests they let Sam Raimi write for them. I always thought it was jarring to suddenly be asked to burn down a mosque. There weren't even any vampires in it.
Daniel Garcia
Meh, that's just twitter shenanigans, couldn't care less. It's not that she thinks what she thinks, she's free to believe what she wants to, we should all be. The same way we should all be able to criticize it and have our views challenged in turn.
It's that said beliefs are likely to be shoehorned in that worries me. There's nothing wrong with having political themes in games, Witcher series does it quite well, you have racism, sexism, cultural clashes, class disparity etc. but I've never felt I was being beaten over the head with it. I was in Watchdogs 2 though.
For example there was some talk about Malkavians and how the way mental illness was portrayed in the original game wasn't quite right. Not quite PC. I adored the Malkavian dialog trees (I know, I know), how you had to read between the lines to understand what your character said, the voices you'd hear, the hints etc. It felt unique, it felt magical and satisfying. Just thinking about it sends me down a wonderful nostalgia trip. I don't want to lose that simply because some small minority might be offended by it. Looking at the images people bait with: why does it feel like the WoD universe went through a tumblr filter all of a sudden when compared to the first game? And it's not as much about the themes but how they are portrayed and approached.
I'm conflicted about the game. On one hand I'm very happy we're getting Bloodlines 2, the first one is one of my all time favorites. On the other I worry about writing quality and overall portrayal of certain themes because those can completely ruin the atmosphere and that's the thing that got me hooked on the first game. Then there's also the fact that it's Paradox. I might just buy the base game and pirate the DLCs like a friend of mine does if it gets too ridiculous.
Kekekekek praise kekestein kek btfo if you dont like it ur a tranny
Zachary Morgan
I love that you genuinely believe everyone who argues against you is just /pol/. I don't even browse /pol/ you clown, literally everyone is getting sick of your shit. >If you didn't spam your retarded shit we could God forbid have a normal video game discussion for once. We'll get our normal video game discussions back once you turds are done and dealt with, because you and your like are actively degrading the industry.
Jonathan Rivera
*Looks at Fifa*
Liam Gomez
>the chink vamp was a bitch hth gangrel wile beast takes over was a breeze, other than that i cannot imagine this fight without flamethrower, pestilence or blood boil
Jaxon Robinson
I hope they don't lean too much on references to the first game
One or two little nuggets are nice, but it'd be a shame if it just wanked the first one off forever and it turned into a guest star filled soap opera
Sebastian Jones
Sometimes just a photo angle alone is enough to know whats up
I killed her with guns and shitload of blood packs.
Nathan Sanchez
>gay muslim SJW vampire Hahaha, oh God!
Gavin Robinson
user, this is the most retarded thing I've read in a while I sincerely hope you are drunk or high
Isaac Anderson
whole plot was all about "good anarchy/freedom" and "bad government". if you want to get great power to control someone - you will lose anyway (BOOM) sor for my vodka engrish
Robert Peterson
>For example there was some talk about Malkavians and how the way mental illness was portrayed in the original game wasn't quite right. Not quite PC. i have fairly severe mental health issues and loved playing a malk in vtmb, it actually made me feel better about myself because the malk character was goofy as fuck but still cool in a way. i'm really disappointed that they're saying it's bad now.
Anthony Hall
The Malkavian PC is such a mixed bag. On the one hand he's a fucking fishmalk and those are always annoying. On the other hand he does have insight he doesn't understand which makes him work.
Adrian Turner
Jesus Raimi, he can’t keep getting away with it.
Nathan Cox
I want the day 1 dlc, politics infused faggot shills to leave.
Jordan Ortiz
>proven wrong About what, you fat mongoloid? You're just saying "I don't like this!" The only thing you continue to prove wrong is my faint hope that one of you bastards might listen to reason.
>I love that you genuinely believe everyone who argues against you is just /pol/. Says the retard who thinks anyone who can detect his /pol/ stink from miles off is a tranny
Nicholas Myers
>Ellison [...] worked as a narrative consultant on 2016’s Dishonored 2 i liked D2, story wasn't exactly spectacular but it was not abhorrent either, everything else was pretty damn good, except for the performance bugs that have been fixed
Aiden Williams
About literally everything you regurgitate out of your brainless heads.
Ayden Wilson
You've put more effort into your post than they will put into the game. People like that woman are dumb to the point of being mentally crippled, you can't reason with them and you can't expect normal human behavior from them. You are being polite and considerate when your feelings are not needed. It's like trying to reason with an animal.
Jackson Collins
>On the one hand he's a fucking fishmalk I dunno how I feel about that. The writer said he was very sleep deprived while writing the Malk's lines, and when I've stayed up for 30+ hours it made stuff like that seem hilarious and I would start saying more nonsensical shit. I think it wasn't entirely bad because it wasn't 100% silly all the time.
Eli Hughes
no one has asked them what is about the infinity symbol there is it mod support useless journos
Carson Parker
It really is bliss for me, watching you squirm. You're now at the point where you're pretending you "detected" me as /pol/. Even though you only started calling me that because i vocalized my disdain for you tranny monsters.
Oliver Bennett
Also easier to port to VR if it succeeds.
Isaiah Thomas
Hyped as fuck tbhwy.
Chase Green
Obviously. They're just waiting to get closer to the release date before doing the switcheroo. In the meantime they're using Steam for exposure on the game.
Kevin Roberts
vampires have sex only because players want to "have sex"
James Wright
Here, here.
Andrew Perez
Not hik but your retarded way of shitposting gives you away as a /pol/ retard.
Colton Russell
>Redemption is more of a dungeon crawler like Diablo, I think. I didn't play it too much.
Finish it user, it's worthy
Aiden Richardson
lol
zero fucking self-awareness
Andrew Harris
Are you gonna be that dude from KH3/FFXV ?
Jason Clark
>day 1 dlc >no gameplay footage >full game $120 >forced identity politics >only 5 clans >+1 dlc clan I want the npc’s to leave
Genuinely not a /pol/ user you fucking clowns. Even the fucking normies are starting to pick up this disdain for you.
Thomas Reed
Based and thaumaturgypilled
Julian Evans
*KH3/FFXV threads
Joseph Hall
I didn't know Vampires were often very queer.
Chase Evans
It’s obvious we are being raided by some self destructive saw marketing team
Zachary Roberts
Back to discord.
Logan Powell
>full game $120 Are you in Australia or something?
Jayden Butler
Been thinking about it. I think I was just disappointed it wasn't more like VtMB, but I'll try it again.
Sebastian Richardson
Back to your shithole retarded niggers.
Hunter Bell
Coming from /pol/ to this shithole is a badge of honor
Gabriel Brown
>oneangryautist.com It could start raining beer and steak tomorrow and that retard would write a review explaining how the leftists are to blame for a horrible disaster.
Chase Brown
>t. Forgot to take their estrogen today
Ryder Jones
Malk insane dialogue literally sold the game to me.
>Genuinely not a /pol/ user you fucking clowns I am genuinely not a clown :^)
Grayson Robinson
Yeah, it's the new Barry
Nathaniel Foster
Wait, what's the news about the clans?
Angel Carter
That doest matter technically in the VTM universe as you can still increase in power.
In vampire redemption there was actually a scene were you could diablorise a lower gen vampire, allowing you to jump from like a 9th generation to an 8th generation or 7th generation.
Its obviously highly frowned upon, i think this is how the clans got started as the children of cain drained each other.
Xavier Nelson
No one is going to buy your shitty game except a few trannies and disabled people and You don’t have the stamina to keep your shilling up here long enough
Alexander Lewis
>unironically defending cancerous practices in the game industry
You need to be purged
Nolan Roberts
Son, even the normies are starting to become annoyed by your endless whining and tilting at windmills.
Eli Lewis
>all these doomsayers Christ...
Joshua Evans
Lol you just took that from the poster above me. You fags have no originality. Learn to meme shill.
You would be surprised the kind of people you find IRL who browse /pol/...
Sebastian Long
Well of course I would, one of the annoying things about you is that you project like mad so anything you accuse others of is actually true of yourselves. You're the invaders. You're the whiny cunts. You're the minority. You don't actually care about video games. You are here with an ulterior motive.
Tyler Ortiz
FOR FUCKS SAKES
IVE BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR LINKS AWAKENING REMAKE AND VAMP BLOODLINES 2 AND I GOT MONKEY FUCKED PAWED BOTH TIMES
SHIT PLAYDOUGH FOR ONE AND FUCKING TRANNYDICKS FOR THE OTHER
FUCK
OFF
NO
Lucas Richardson
oh no! it's a woman!
Gabriel Brooks
>coming to the origin of gamer gate to shill your progressive game
Npc’s are fucking retarded
Camden Baker
its going to uber or a lyft
Jacob Ortiz
How dare you assume her gender, shitlord.
Carter Bennett
/pol/ is filled with normalfags and is basically the new Yea Forums at this point in not only being on the most popular boards but also being the shitty gateway board that everyone is introduced to and that everyone spreads their cancer from
Jackson Clark
>VAMPIRES ARE LITERALLY CORPSES. THEY CANNOT HAVE (NORMAL) SEX BECAUSE THEIR ORGANS DON'T WORK. How do they move their muscles then? how is their brain still working then? their eyes? their ears?
John Evans
>preferred pronouns in description
Everybody who does this should just be excluded from any conversation.
Austin Taylor
>.03 cents deposited in your account
Andrew Bailey
Blood.
Joshua Hill
>First person
into the absolute fucking trash
the logical next step was some kind of dark souls/jedi academy hybrid with really fucking good third person combat
first person only means this is certified not a sequel to bloodlines, this is some faggot skyrim vampire mod
Austin Cooper
Back to /pol/ newfags!
Ian Cook
Nigga you sound like a total fucking neck beard "watching you squirm" like a fucking cartoon villain. Stay autistic.
Luke Hernandez
With her pronouns listed in her bio... Sure to be a total identity politics obsessed freak writing a souless narrative with cringy dialogue
Mason Rodriguez
>her
Charles Myers
Dude its a rulebook rule. They can simulate an erected dick and even sperm with some blood point expense but they dont pick any excitement or pleasure in it. Put your finger inside a bottle, thats what you feel as a vamp when you are doing "sex".
Daniel Fisher
Nobody was presented as the "good guys". They were all presented as either manipulative idiots or clueless idiots, but the message was the same; we're all fucked.
Elijah Hernandez
>spend most of game on uber or lyft >very end you can't trust using them because of people spying on you >call for a taxi for the first time >it rolls up > hop in then you ask him for advice on what to do and it's like poetry, it rhymes with the first vtmb
Wrong. Play the game and pay attention next time buddy
Michael Phillips
Identity politics ruin another classic. Great. Bravo, left.
Noah Young
It's almost medically fascinating at how much you try to deflect your /pol/ bullshit, you just end up stinking more. Internet politics is fucking bizarre. try to have some self awareness.
Josiah Diaz
actually youre probably product of vaulderie so like shovelheads you are a random clan that you choose after the tutorial theres no way you diablerize anyone at that stage, you would be dust so fast
Hunter Allen
How about you fuck off back to resetarea.
Parker Turner
If you're a dedicated player then you will be playing that game for a long time, hundreds of hours of time invested over the course of years, unlike the majority of single player games most of which are shorter than 20 hours. That $280 is about the same as four full priced new releases, which would be played over the same amount of time or less than you would be playing all of that CK2 content. You just don't like the genre. If you haven't played the base game to death then you have no business complaining about optional stuff that's not made for you.
You're the political extremists. You're the ones with the with-us-or-against-us mindset. You're the ones who are being so annoying that it pisses off the people who are just trying to discuss video games.
Parker Sanchez
Must feel great being held hostage by trannies blackmailing you. Pathetic.
Jaxson Perry
PLEASE GOD LET ME BECOME A LASOMBRA FINALLY. ITS ALL I WANT
With Grout being staked and sunburnt well done, LC in pieces, sheriff offed, and most of ventrue killed in the tower it does not really matter if he stays at the top or become a pupet king. Unless camarilla would send seomeone specificaly for that role he is the only one powerful enough to make it. If he orchestrated grouts meeting with Bach and not LC I would say its a nice play, but he honestly seems like the guy that does the minimum required, ensures his survival, and things fall to his lap because he is the last man standing.
Henry Watson
>.03 more cents has been deposited in your account. >would you like automatic deposits Mr. sheckelberg?
Hunter Garcia
Stop making sense and play faggy twilight game.
Isaac Perez
>zhe thinks vampire commie wannabees are the good guys stop, get some help
Jason Powell
I know you're just funny posting but he's not wrong.
Jayden Anderson
>Always knew it was going to be better to send heather away and have a normal life
>Loved how much of a weird goofball she was and how she was down to slut it up
>Dies if you keep her around
I almost doubt they'll be able to make something as decision conscious as this again.
Michael Diaz
>poltards wear their politics on their sleeves >liberals always pretend to be apolitical until they're forced to admit what they really think why does this ALWAYS happen
James Lewis
>Punching up not down This has been the rule of comedy for a number of years now it simply means that they will only portray straight white men as bad and straight white will be the butt of all jokes because under the concept of "punching up" you can't offend any one who "doesn't have power" which in the mind of leftist is anyone who isn't a straight while male
Wyatt Baker
>another .03 cents
Fucking sameposter
Bentley Robinson
So will we see awakened or werewolf clans in this? Its clear by the Preorder items we will see legitimate hunters from the books
Isaac Reed
cant you fuck jeanette in bloodlines? possibly vv, and your companion as well?
