DMC

I focus on Dante
I need to kill my twin

Who told you that Dante is straight?

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Nero DT confirms '''''''''he''''''''' is a tranny

>official HD Renee
You couldn't handle that much power.

Never played DMD in any of the games before, what's the difference from SoS?

How do you know Morrison is straight? Look how many years he has been putting up with Dante's bullshit, there's got to be something more there.

increase damage, increase health, everything can DT and new moves

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>dreamed that they added Nevan as a dlc weapon
>it was a double guitar and using it just played Back in Black
>also dream that I had a big titty Trish gf
I was really disapointed when I woke up, didn't Itsuno said that they might add more content like weapons if there is a demand for it?

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Are you saying Nero is going to get 2 DADDIES?! He was happy with just one! Kyrie is gonna flip!

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she was in the prequel book wasn't she?

>no biological children with Kyrie
Imagine the surprise if Vergil actually had a daughter, and with Credo's blessing she was pretending to be a man ever since she found out knights are a boys club, and it has become a habit ever since.

Anime Morrison looks like Eagle, who is based on Freddie Mercury, ergo gay.

Jesus fucking christ user that would be unironically cute

yeah, and still crushing HARD on dante after like a decade
still wanna see her bangin midriff and bird DT in hd though

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Brash tomboyish reverse trap Nera sounds cute as hell

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So that's why Nero needs Sweet Surrender to please Kyrie properly...

How?

>mfw finally starting to understand Cavaliere
It's so satisfying to to pull off.

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How do I git gud with Dante bros?

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>fujos

Nero confirmed for having a fat pussy

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god christ more

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Man so I posted in the last thread about how I recently binged the anime and found it underwhelming with how much stuff they introduced but then suddenly dropped without much explanation. I wanna elaborate that in particular Baul and Modeus were the perfect analogue for Dante and Vergil, Modeus has the "even a devil may cry" moment but it's never touched on, Dante just obliterates the both of them and kinda fucks off without a word. Why didn't they make the series end there? It would've been the perfect catalyst to heighten his Vergil-related depression leading into his 2 characterisation. There's a whole heap of other stuff too like how hard it ship teases Dante with Lady but also confirms Dante and Trish are a thing? And what the fuck was going on with the Morris Island thing? Was that retconned because it makes no sense that Dante lived as Tony Redgrave together with Eva but not Vergil in a place that wasn't even Redgrave City

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it's really all about mashing buttons in a frenzy and switching everything like a fucking madman until you figure it out eventually

(start with trickster and make it a habit to bring two of each types of weapons on stages. when you feel familiar enough with a setup, try a different style/weapon)

I'm not gay but v's voice and attitude is making my peepee feel funny

You have been thinking too much with your penis over the years
What really is happening is you waking up to the fact that you want to be V in real life

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Ur a faget

It's all in the breathiness.

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>can't pause cutscenes
What is it, a PS1 game?

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Yes

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>how hard it ship teases Dante with Lady but also confirms Dante and Trish are a thing
that's just to give both camps of waifufags an even shake

that's kinda the same impression i remember getting from the series, a bunch of stuff that works but never exactly comes together as well as it could've

Don't worry, they made it so you can watch the cutscenes separately by mission now, they make cutscenes skip-only to follow series tradition.

I really don't like Yamato's redesign, it looks way too much like a normal katana compared to how fuckhuge it was previously.

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>it makes no sense that Dante lived as Tony Redgrave together with Eva
I don't think they ever say it was Eva.

Do you think It's no would ever be mad enough to have Dante and Vergil merge their DTs together? Will we go full Dragon Ball?

If anything, it looks bigger now than in 3.

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2 MILLION SOLD

Yamato is still a big boy.

He said more playable characters if there's enough demand, that's for sure.

playable crewcut when

In addition, some enemy groups are different from both SoS and DH. Also aggression is increased. DT activates at different times for each enemy. Sometimes it's based on health, sometimes time i think? DT increases damage, health and knockback resistance. You'll have to land like two or three knockbacks before the next launch will register.

Im happy they re-considered doing DLC for the game. They clearly see that people are interested in content and it was retarded of them to rule it out on the first place

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Playable Credo when

What's Vergil gonna use for a second sword?

>re-considered
I'm willing to bet their intention was always to make DLC if the game sells a certain amount. "Not having anything planned" was just PR talk.

It had way less of a curve in 3 or 4 though, and I'd swear it was longer. Though I think this is actually because the character's proportions are different, so while it looks like a similar size compared to Vergil it's actually smaller because he doesn't have the larger build. It's also slimmer, especially as it narrows towards the tip.

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>rule it out
It certainly was retarded of you to think that's what happened.

BIGGER DICK
But you already knew that

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youtube.com/watch?v=g75chm49qHs

Playable Nero's mama, Mission: Seduce Vergil.

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Force Edge if I had to guess, wouldnt mind him getting a brand new original weapon though. Something completely new to the series, maybe a lance or something.

The second sword would be for dual-wielding, which fans would probably want.

>the thing you can do to the boss in mission 3 with buster
This second playthrough is gonna be even better than the first.

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I'm partial to the idea of him just straight up using a Summoned Sword in lieu of Force Edge, simply because there's quite a bit you could do with that.

>someone drew Shadow fucking Nero

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You can control de camera mid spin, and it chance where you toss him. You can toss him to the tower and make it fall on him

BANG BANG BANG YOU'RE A FILTHY NIGGER

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I think he's talking about Artemis in mission 3

Sure mate

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Dante is a SLUT

>That SFM where Nico deepthroats Nero and starts choking on his dick with tears in her eyes

Porn is coming in lads

Pull My Daddy Trigger

ok but wheres the link

OG Trish greentext poster here, tell me what you think

It seemed that Fortuna, in all its great glory,
Provided 'ol Vergil with such a sensation.
The devil had lusted, before after power,
But now his motivation was for child creation

A powerful son, or daughter of his,
To continue the Sparda bloodline.
The only real problem was his inexperience,
But his partner was looking real fine.

He started undressing, but the Ascot was tight,
He struggled and cursed all the while.
His size was an issue, so he triggered his cock,
But the 9 inch, barbed dick sure was vile.

He started caressing his lover's fine breasts,
As she slowly stroked Vergil's blue dick,
She could see Sparda's son wasn't "judgement cut"
Though he shot out his Dr. Faust quick.

No problem, the lady was not turned off much,
If anything it showed good health,
As she kneeled down to pray, but then gobbed on his knob,
She thought "It's like fucking Half-Jesus himself!"

"Such trifle" Verg thought, let's get this done with fast,
And he started to massage her beaver,
He was smirking and smug, and below her brown rug,
Accidentally summoned blue cleavers.

"FUCK" they both screamed, but in his mind he dreamed,
"I should change those to blue swords instead"
She was bleeding a little, but her legs weren't brittle,
And they both lied down on the wood bed.

Like a stinger he pierced, with an autistic look,
As he came one cum shot after another,
He then put his clothes on and before leaving town,
Said "off to go rob my fag brother"

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Cavaliere or Cavaliere R. Which do you use? I used R because the new stinger was cool, but I'm wondering what the real difference in super armor is.

Yes I did that and it was awesome! But like said I wasn't talking about that one.

holy FUCK JCing calibur is a bitch, I much prefer letting the hit go out + bringer knuckle, then JCing into other stuff

Anyone have any tips for JCing Payline reliably? It's really hard for me for some reason, I think it's because it's so fast

Regular, I don't really like using DLC stuff, I turned off all the DLC breakers and R because of it

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wait, what the fuck is that map?

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nexusmods.com/devilmaycry5/mods/66

I can't believe faggots are complaining about graphic details like sword curves, and also complaining about story elements. Fucking play the game and S rank shit, you fucking scrubs. Model analysis isn't endgame.

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Kinda wish, after charging Blue Rose, I could let go of the button without it automatically firing one off.

use the devil bringer punch and let go of the button while in animation

Kiryu is a "Man's man", does that make Kiryu gay? No, those fuckers who admires him does probably

you can snatch, ground taunt, or air taunt to easily let it go

>get some SSS ranks in fights and S a few missions
>think I'm getting pretty good
>see webms like this
Oh there's a lonnng way to go for me.

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So where the hell is DMC5 on the timeline? After 2? Was the motorcycle thing really a follow up to 2's ending?

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Just air taunt once you're loaded

>caring
fuck off fujo

It goes 3-1-anime-2-4-5. Motorcycle thing was Dante having fun on Cavaliere while rushing to where the fight is, has nothing with 2.

I wish I could train myself to take my finger off r2 whenever I turn tomboy on.
It keeps happening.

It was only like 10 minutes of practice with JCing calibur and I totally fucked up on the last one, I'm sure anyone could do better

YIPEEE WOOHOOOOOOOOOO! YEAAAAAAAAAAH!

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So I'm planning to do a run of Human before DMD to get all the orbs/secret missions. Does anyone have a good list or video that shows all their locations?

Timeline is

DMC3 -> DMC1 -> DMC4 - DMC2 -> DMC5

Don't know why this is so hard for people to understand

youtu.be/WwF_CXHVAL8

Use the info under the video to check if you have it or not first.

2 comes before 4 now.

Wrong. It's 3-1-2-4-5

Cool thanks!

ur welcum fgt

...Dad?

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post funny Nero faces

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I try to parry with her activation and use that as a sign to release shoot, it sorta works.

I used a Red Orb revive on DMD on the Nidhogg boss fight. I'm so ashamed of myself. I didn't want to deal with the Judecca again.

Wouldn't using the checkpoint just take you to right before the boss?

Go back, right now, and beat him without reviving. Don't self impose a wall.

Still counts as a revive so my mission rank would be fucked either way. The red orb revive was just faster and I was angry.

I probably will tomorrow. It was just frustrating because he was so close but I didn't see him rear up because Nightmare was in the way. I can see why people complain about playing V on DMD now though.

That's the ONLY mission on DMD that V is annoying to play on, so don't worry my man. Finish that shit with an S and you're done. Nidhogg is a bit annoying, but you can do it.

>used like 10 gold orb during the vergil fight with Nero on Son of Sparda

>using gold orbs on missions that are boss fights with no level to trek through before the boss

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>dante
>’straight’

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2 is before the anime.

I take forever to damage vergil, I cheesed the fight with dante using max red revive and sin dt

Technically 2 and the anime are at the same time.

gematsu.com/2019/03/devil-may-cry-5-shipments-top-two-million

Apparently it was two million copies SHIPPED not sold

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Shipped is the only data tracker by publishers, even if not specified. Retailers buy stock from the publisher and then it's up to them to sell them to consumers for their own profit.

If by "at the same time" you mean "in the same period between two games", then yes. Otherwise no, 2 is after 1 and before the anime.

can someone share that sick ass V webm, where he's in the air for a long ass time

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I was literally just making shit up, but I'm glad you validated me.

So does it even matter after the products been “shipped” if they’re bought after? Do those sales go to the company or just the retailer

But you were wrong.

It matters only in the sense that if they run out of stock, retailers will order more copies thus leading to more "shipped" units.

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It's the same as any business, the retailer buys from the manufacturer and it's down to the retailer to sell what they've bought. But obviously the manufacturer wants the retailer to sell them so they'll buy more.

Appreciate it anons. I just hope this does well enough to warrant future dlc characters, it’s looking likely

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Yeah 2ml at launch is a good start and it most likely met their expectations.

If it wasn't guaranteed before it's guaranteed now. Shipped does mean it might not have actually sold all 2 million, but it also means it's not accounting for digital sales. Factoring those in it's still going to be 2mil overall at least, and RE2 sold 3mil in the same time frame which is a much more popular franchise and Capcom were very happy with that. We're good.

Force Edge wouldn't make sense from a lore perspective, since Force Edge is Devil Sword Sparda. He would need to use something else. The only reason it worked in 3 & 4 are because Vergil's story took place prior to the Force Edge becoming the Sparda in 1.

FINALLY I can buy Vergil's ex color.

Capcom says sold

>worked in 4
No it didn't. That was just budget constraints forcing them to recycle.

No they don't capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e190322a.html

yikes

Perspectives.

Dumb frogposter.

Wrong thread, shitposterkun

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So weren't V's finishers supposed to get more brutal partway through the game? Did they decide time-gating that was dumb so they were just made into the mash finishers like the triple stab on the Empusas?

Not denying that they lazily recycled. But, Vergil's story in 4 canonically takes place before everything, so it makes sense lore-wise that he still had the Force Edge.

fuck cats

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>still had
He finds it during 3, though
Same with Beowulf

I feel he was talking about VTM.

No it doesn't. Lore-wise he was in Fortuna to research how to get the Force Edge, which was locked away in the demon world which is why he raised the Temen-ni-Gru and sought to break the barrier Sparda erected in the first place. And there's Beowulf still being alive and kicking.

easy on the sips, dante

It's not a perspective thing. I can't seem to find many good pictures of old Yamato, but it's definitely different.

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That's a handsome buff feline

Jesus Christ, Dante's stupid strong in this game. It's a total 180 compared to DMC4.

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Yea 5 Dante feels a lot closer to 3 Dante than 4.

Anyone else think Nero feels weaker than in 4?

The cane as an actual weapon

I'm not the biggest fan of the unga meme but I'll be damned if it isn't true.

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It'd have to be longer if he wants to dual-wield it with Yamato. I mean, ordinarily, if you absolutely HAD to dual-wield, one being shorter would be ideal, but this is Vergil.

Use the cane as a sheathe for Yamato

With Yamato being his primary weapon, the other sword would have to be shorter to simulate samurai fighting style.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daishō

The thing is, though, Vergil liked to use Force Edge to emuulate Dante's fighting style. Stinger, Helm Breaker, it would look pretty awkward doing that with a small, thin cane.

Force Edge, Vergil will never get cool new toys. You'll get Yamato, Force Edge, and Beowulf and you'll like it.

Skewer!

I see. Maybe Nico can make him his own Red Queen, it should be among her father's notes.

two of my friends look identical to nico and v on a scary level. i should get them back together

DEFEAT
AFTER
DEFEAT

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Did you just add him eyebrows in Paint

Ehy, if I was to restart from checkpoint, not after a death but on the menu, does that count as a continue?

Like, say I'm fighting a group of enemies and I'm not happy about my style and I decide to restart from checkpoint before beating them all.
Does it count? Do I lose that x1,2?

I wonder if it was made by the same guy of the original

No, Noctis.

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Yes, and doing it thrice gives you the triple continue penalty.

Oh shit I'm sorry

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Come to think of it, do Vergil's Summoned Swords still resemble Force Edge?

>back forward JC back forward JC back forward JC DT
Nero hard af lol wow

Not him, but Vergil can take something from Dante's arsenal, its not like Dante is multilimbed to use Beowulf, Gilgamesh and Ifrit at the same time, unless they make more fusion stuff and decide to merge the devil arms.

Why is this game obsessed with back -> forward -> attack inputs?

Rebellion and Sparda are gone, and it's not like they're gonna give him DSD. If they're just gonna give him a sword that doesn't exist anymore, they may as well just give him Force Edge again.

Limitations of lock on controls

Yamato's sheath

It's a good way to add more inputs on a button, I'm not a huge fan of 2 button inputs like Vergil had in 4SE, so having more directional inputs in the air is preferable

That being said, I wish we could remap DSD's Helm Breaker to forward + lockon + melee instead of back, it fucks with me even if nero's is the same

Imagine having a Nico gf haha

Perhaps Agni and Rudra or someshit, I don't think they would be that lazy to give the same tools again.

inb4 samefagging responses to this garbage

They could always give him a smaller version of Nelo Angelo's sword.

Nevermind Vergil, though. What could they give Trish now that Sparda's gone? Better hope Dante still has Alastor stashed away somewhere.

Would rather they gave Vergil an actual campaign than a new weapon desu (to be honest)

Give him Phantom and Nelo Angelo (his lingering nightmares) as bonus bosses and have Phantom turn into gauntlets that play like the old ones as a mix between Ifrit and Beowulf and Nelo Angelo's greatsword, both with new moves and mechanics. Done.

That probably ain't happening. Vergil spent most of DMC5 sitting on his ass, and it's not like they're gonna make completely new stages just for him.

They took a lot of inspiration from DmC so they might

Phantom's a worthless shit. Dante killed like three or four of those in the course of a single night. It is not worthy as Vergil's opponent.

Nico will probably pull something out of her ass as per usual

Alastor is a decoration at goth parties now, Trish would have been better with Agni and Rudra.

I expect a very small solo campaign for each character, about 5 missions.

Trish would probably steal Dante, the sword.

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If it's just making her playable for shits and giggles then Sparda is fine
If not then Alastor is pretty fitting

How many Shadows do you think he killed in Mallet? Power-levels don't matter when it's a physical manifestation of trauma and the trauma it's physically manifesting is Vergil's.

Alastor and Nightmare-γ. Kinda sad Dante didn't get a Nightmare/Artemis type laser gun.

V didn't have a construct of Phantom. He chose Shadow, a lesser demon, over it.

I want Vergil to get a greatsword as a callback to Nelo Angelo, and a way to summon URIZEN's barky tree ass. As for Lady and Trish, i don't really know what i would want them to use.

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Would a minimap like that help people who claim they keep getting lost in DMC5? (togglabe on and off in options, of course)

There is Phantom in the manga, but there's not enough pages released yet to know why it didn't stick around.

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Not sure about the lore, but does Alastor still exist? Wouldn't that be the next closest thing to rebellion or force edge?

Lady can only really get guns, but she has to be careful Dante doesn't keep stealing them.
Everyone wants to give Trish a sword, but I am of opinion she would look better with a whip.

>chose
Griffon tells him he'll have to tame those who are disobedient. He couldn't tame Phantom.

Sorry for what?

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It was so weak that he accidentally killed it.

Probably too stupid to tame.

Ideally I'd want Lady to have her own acrobatic bullet-slinging playstyle with cuhrayzee mag-dumps and just-reload mechanics with her own arsenal of firearms that aren't just Dante's weapons and moves in a different colour, but ultimately I'll be happy so long as she gets Spiral.

>tfw your new spider demon fights with your bird demon so you have to put it down

If Nightmare isn't too stupid to tame I don't know what would be. You have to remember that Griffon was actually quite noble, Shadows were just territorial cats, and Nightmare was basically a weapon; by demon standards they were actually pretty chill. Whereas Phantom was an angry burning asshole with a grudge against Sparda, so it's easy to imagine why he'd be more of a problem than the others in V's head.

Yes.

Lady:
>SMGs, Kalina Ann, Spiral, grenades
>DT substitute: Pandora

Trish:
>Alastor, Nevan, Lucifer

oh god fuck I want a spear in DMC so fucking bad.

>Recess time is over boy! Here there's plenty of room to get real nasty.

So 2 million in two weeks is pretty good for DMC right? It almost reached 4's lifetime sales and surpassed 3 and reboot.
Does this mean we're getting Lady and Vergil dlc?

I wonder if I should even interrupt my S rank quest for Sekiro, people seem to think it's boring as fuck

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>Alastor, Nevan, Cavaliere, King Cerberus, Griffon, Overture, Trismagia
>Trish, Blitz
Why are they different?

What?

>Yea Forums
>people

user, I realize they all have electricity as their element, but what exactly are you trying to talk about here?

I think it is good, yes. Dunno about DLC

Its seemed boring to me from the initial reveal, tbqh. Then again I'm completely burnt out on the Souls formula.

Can someone give me a quick rundown on this guy?

Guys, what if DMC5's story is just a setup for what's to come?

Technically Nero do the same with Showdown.

DMCV-2: Gat out of Hell

DMC5 was just DMC3 but with Dante not letting Vergil go alone. It's practically the same game from start to finish.

Sure felt to me like one.

So will Mad Qualia be Vergil's battle theme?
youtube.com/watch?v=cZUktzIoQns
>0:00 - 0:09 no rank/D
>0:09 - 0:30 C
>0:30 - 0:48 B
>0:48 - 1:33 A
>1:33 - 2:10 S
>2:10 - 2:37 SS
>2:37 - 3:22 SSS

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I was/am on the same boat, i played a little bit of Sekiro(just the tutorial and like 10 minutes after getting the grappling hook) it's not really like souls, at least not so far, it's more of a stealth game and it makes me feel like i shouldn't be fighting enemies since the "parry to break their stance and one shot them" mechanic feels very unintuitive to me. I think i'll just put Sekiro on the backlog while i continue to get raped by Virginia.

I hope they add Let's Just See to the jukebox

Friend of mine fan of these games told me is bloodborne with more of a japanese setting, not worth the 60 bucks.
So if you want to play another souls game go ahead.

The ending really ends in a "we can keep doing this forever" note, i mean, Dante and Vergil flat out say so and Trish and Lady go murder demons somewhere.

>virginia
rude

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HANGING OUT WITH LITTLE BOYS IN SPANDEX AGAIN ARE WE?!

I think it's very good for a franchise such as DMC. 4's lifetime sales are 3.0 mil which 5 should certainly reach by the end of the year, in my opinion.
Virgil mods already exist so I take it he too going to be playable sooner or later, further than that we don't know.

This I like.

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I think his theme would still be Crimson Cloud or it's remix

>triple continue on DMD
>still get the S rank
don't want to waste time doing it again and yet I dont feel completely satisfied

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Could somebody please post the OST?

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sittingonclouds.net/games/games-series/devil-may-cry/devil-may-cry-5/28438-2/

mega.nz/#!pzgiyaDL!ix06vTPok4ARCV5eaRXbbPR5e4A_22HJQhzhzBezlRs

thank

Are sales numbers out yet?

ngl I would have preferred your version.

Welcome

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...

>DMC6 will just be 30 Missions of fighting Vergil in different locations and with different movesets
>Mission 31 will have Dead weight show up and SSStyle on Dante and Vergil with his newfound powers

>Trying to S rank mission 10
I want to die

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Post more Vergil 4SE webms

>Vergil kills a proto in hell
>Gets his sword to replace force edge
Easy enough

I was pondering about what Vergil said about switching places with Dante. God, nice Vergil would be interesting

I'm fucking CUHRAZY Dante, you wouldn't understand!
>Foolishness Vergil, MOTIVATION IS EVERYTHING!

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who is dergil

>Vergil can't use Force Edge anymore
>Trish can't use Sparda anymore
>Lady can't use Kalina Ann anymore
Dante is a dick.

Link senpai

>CUHRAYZINESS Dante CUHRAYZINESS
>without style you can't motivate anything
>let alone yourself

>Nero can't use Devil Breaker anymore

Would Dante even use guns if he was evil?

hardest S in the game, either that or 18. farm the 2 queens and use sin DT R2 to built style up insta and do shittons of damage if you fuck up

Yes, they do.

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He would use the Cerebral Bore from Turok.

Yes, guns or no guns was a matter of personal preference, not tied to being either good or evil. He'd just have trouble finding a good gunsmith, evil Dante wouldn't build a relationship with Nell.

Give him back!

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I guess he could just take Luce&Ombra.
Neat.

Well either a powerpoint presentation put together by three guys who aren't salesmen, two of whom can't speak fluent English, is using the wrong word or Capcom's official press release overseen by their international team of marketing executives is using the wrong word.

No they don't capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e190322a.html

I was kinda sad to see Sparda go since Trish doesn't even that going for her now. Alastor would be a bit a moot Devil Arm since she's all about electricity anyway. She should get completely new Devil Arms and guns.

I think I'd trust people actually in the know over at Capcom over you.

All you did was post the same link that user replied to. That's not a refutation.

Maybe she gets thunder summon swords and a thunder sparda made from her lightning

Gonna buy it as soon as I got most of 5 out of my system. It looks pretty awesome.

She went devil hunting apart from Dante didn't she? Maybe she's acquired a stash of her own Devil Arms in the meanwhile.

>over you
I'm not asking you to trust me you insane buffoon, Capcom's official press release on their own website from the company president says shipped, not sold.

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She should get a small campaign for her where she gets DT. It's almost weird how she didn't even get one at this point. Fucking Lucia has one.

do you know how shipped vs sold works? jesus its like ff15 again, the company doesn't really care about copies sold because as soon as they shipped them its sold to them as the seller is demanding more as they've sold the last batch so to the company its sold

He posted an official sales article that's meant for Capcom suits and shareholders. Take a chill pill, user. It's clearly shipped, not sold.

This should not make me unga, yet it does.

>does that make Kiryu gay?
Yes.

But she is already a demon, her DT is probably that buff aura some demons get in DMC3

Lucia was secondary main character for a game, Trish wasn't.

Lucia was an artificial demon (made by humans) and she has a full blown DT

But she does have a DT, she glows yellow and puts on sunglasses, basically becomes Wesker.

Don't start projecting some bullshit idea that people correcting mistakes are trying to claim the game's a failure or whatever non-existent argument you're trying to refute there. Shipped and sold are different things with different meanings and if someone's going to be a pedantic asshole they should at least have the common decency of actually bring right.

Well, fuck me then, I didn't played DMC2, guess the devs were lazy or what is saying

I guess maybe a reason they've never given Trish one is because they don't want to show her "true" appearance if she even has one.

I dont think she has a true form, she was likely some chunk of electricity Mundus shaped into a Eva shape and said done.

Maybe she doesn't have one, Mundus made her to look like Eva, she could simply be locked in that form for maximum baiting ability.

Lucia's a lab experiment by mad human scientists, she was made demonic and had to be changed to be human, so her DT reverts her to being demonic. Trish was crafted by the god emperor of demonkind in the image of a human, so that form is her default form and her DT is an aura (like almost every other demon).

Does Mundus or Sparda have a DT? Can they go Sin DT?

...

I saw one of Nico getting barbed by Shadow. Maybe you're referring to that one. I fucking hope

I'm not bothering, my enjoyment of the souls formula was raped to death because of 2 and 3

They are always in devil form so they don't need it

Well, Sparda turns into a bug. Does that count as devil triggering? Or just removing your human skin like the roach from Men in Black? Mundus sits around like a statue, is him coming out of that thing a DT? What even is a DT?

I fell out of Souls because of the fanbase. Holy shit they turned into a cesspool of stupidity, fed and fueled by Youtubers.

I thought this doesn't play like a Souls game at all?

It doesn't, it's a stealth game. A shitty one, but it's not a souls game.

So was V actually good or was he acting the whole time?

At points by himself he seemed concerned about the destruction

I know all that razzle dazzle. I just want to see Sexy Demon DT Trish, God damn it.

He is good, but the power autism still dwells with him. I like to think that he just couldn't help himself once he was there and had the chance to become Vergil again.

No, but looking at other demons
>bugman-base
>aura-DT
>something freaky-sin Sparda

>What even is a DT?
A power up

He's good enough to have the Sparda JUSTICE thing going on but still resents Dante and doesn't want to die.

So is there a lore reason Dantes DT changes every game?

Dante himself also changes every game.

He tricked everyone since he didn't want to kill Urizen, he wanted to fuse with him and become Vergil. But since V was pretty much the good side of Vergil, he realized how much of an asshole shitbag Vergil used to be and that ended up being why Vergil ended up being a cool guy after ressurecting.

It's a bit bullshit and hamfisted but hey, there was no way Vergil wasn't going to come back as a good guy. 5 did seem to be a bit of a rush job at the later portions of the game and you can tell by the story's pacing so they probably worked best with what they had. Plus seeing Dante genuinely happy with Vergil in hell filled my dark soul with light.

DT Trish already is sexy demon DT Trish without the need for some loser transformation. Or at least used to be.

Was rejoining with Urizen really bad though? Seems like everyone won in the end.

He was pretty cool with killing Urizen in the beginning, I think he changed his mind after Trish told him to man up and take responsibility.

He was sick of getting defeated, so he decided split himself in order to gain more power.

I did like how both V and Urizen, despite being extreme versions of Vergil's human and demon sides, were still affected by their conflicting nature all the same.

V still wanted power at the end of the day, which is why he fused with Urizen and Urizen's autistic desire for strength stemmed from losing Eva. It was a pretty subtle touch, if undercooked.

>Trish knew V was Vergil because Mundus equipped her with mommy senses

Official reason is new designers with different budgets and ideas. Lore reason is Dante relied on external power of devil arms to sustain his DT until he grew powerful enough to maintain it on his own.

in 3 he borrows powers from the weapons to help DT, that's why his form changes with the weapons

in 1 he already changes less but still needs help, and his final trigger form is heavily influenced by sparda

in 2 he's stronger but to fully utilize his demon power he still need some help with the amulet

in 4 he no longer needs any help, he reached his strongest point and his devil trigger is in it's true form and no longer changes based on weapon/items

in 5 he surpasses that form with SDT, but his regular DT is still basically the same as 4

KACHUDOWN

Why is he so cute?

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So, Vergil too was a scrub in DMC3? lol

Can you post the Nero one?.

It works out, but they definitely didn't plan it.

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Literally dbz

I don't think that DT is even a thing for full-on demons. "Demon form" is just their regular form, while any human form they have is basically just a disguise.

>Nero struggled to carry Mr. Skeltal
Jesus, he looks like he weighs hardly anything. If Nero can't lift him up with one arm, where is all of V's weight hidden?

They know what they're doing.

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im getting awkward framedrops in some scenes. what could it be?
I have a resource monitor up and my gpu,cpu,ram and hdd arent taxed at all.

are there some settings that are known to cause this?

V is much hotter though.

is it during mission 7 and 13, or ghost players?
That's the coop acting up

youtube.com/watch?v=f36bG_dnFcA

His cane is made of super gilgamesh.

>where is all of V's weight hidden?
you know...

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How does physical retail work in terms of how much profit a game dev makes? Say, you buy a game from Gamestop or whatever and it costs $60, does 40% of that 60 go to the dev while the rest goes to the retail shop?

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Where can i see the Nero version of this?.

>it does damage
looks like cane only runs are on the menu

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>nobody will get this reference but you

nice

He wanted to be careful not to break him since V was all cracky

he got a devil breaker gauntlet from Nico at the end of the game though

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wait, is that an attack?

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He carries a shit ton of books in his interdimensional pockets.

Same as anything else you buy in a store. Retailer buys the games for a premium, probably something like $48~$50, and then they sell the product at a markup. You'll see the term "MSRP" a lot, which is "Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price," which is basically a way of coordinating the price of a product through multiple different retailers, hence why games are almost always $60 at launch.

Digital retail probably works the same way in terms of profit margins. It's cheaper to distribute a game digitally, so more money is shared between the manufacturer and retailer when they keep the price the same to keep from disrupting physical sales. Physical distribution is a bigger investment.

It's just how he is.

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it's a taunt

Capcom did a really nice job on the pigmentation of V's tattoos. I'm impressed.

He literally gets an adapted devil-breaker prototype from Nico in the ending scene.

Did you even play the game?

He was really struggling to ca--

STOP
T
O
P

This is the only good answer.

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Oh my fucking god don't tell me you disgusting homosexuals going to start posting even in yurop times.

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We're getting too old for this Vergil, please use Yamato so we can go back and get some Pizza

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>DMD in 5
>enemies 3shot you and a wave with quite a few enemies like the angelo finale of mission 7 can take several minutes to complete simply because enemies have so much health
holy fuck damn my hands hurt after 1(one) fucking mission because of the time it took to finish
i know 4 is the easier of the itsuno games on DMD but that's some jump in difficulty
i didn't manage to finish any DMD mission without using a gold/red orb continue after mission 4 while i S ranked SoS basically without any kind of continue and all S ranks

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Did he have a face model or did Capcom just wing it?

Was waiting for this edit. Can you make his eyes tinted red?

I havent paid attention to that. it happens in cutscenes mostly.

Owen Hamze is V's face model.

Who's your favorite DMC5 character?
>Boomer
>Zoomer
>Doomer

>When the hell are they going to bless us with an official HD render for Vergil?
You're behind, my friend

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shouldnt be happening in cutscenes, those happen in the coop sections only. Maybe lower your settings?

Suffering alimony paycheck after paycheck...

Who's the doomer?

>women want him
>men want to be him
>faggots are disgusting as always
Smdhdesu

Doomer > Boomer > Zoomer

who is the face model?

Nice.

Zoomer Nero but I think V is hotter. no homo, seriously. he looks a lot like my goth friend from my high school days so he's familiar

Not a second sword, but using the Yamato scabbard to have "Dual wielding" style might be cool

V is the doomer

Maxim nazarov

Confirmed he fucks women in the first novel which is canonized by the prequel novel to 5, get bent nerd

Maxim Nazarov. But I remember an user saying they combined the features of the model and the VAs.

>DMD in 1 was ok
>DMD in 2 was lol just shoot them
>DMD in 3
>DT EXPLOSION MANAGEMENT CROWD CONTROL MANAGEMENT OH NO FUCK ENIGMA NO STOP BEING SUCH A DICK YOU DUMB SOUL EATER FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>DMD in 4 brain dead mode
>DMD in 5
>SIN DT MANAGEMENT CROWD CONTROL MANAGEMENT BREAKER MANAGEMENT I CURSE MY STARS IN BITTER GRIEF AND WOE THAT MADE MY LOVE SO HIGH AND ME SO LOW

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Lady is straight too

no

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>I CURSE MY STARS IN BITTER GRIEF AND WOE THAT MADE MY LOVE SO HIGH AND ME SO LOW
>press circle to revive birb and catto

They barely die when I'm playing, but that too and
>ROYAL FORK ROYAL FORK ROYAL FORK
>SO IT IS WRITTEN
>SLICE THEM
>SO IT IS WRITTEN
>PRESS CIRCLE
>PRESS IT AGAIN
>SO IT IS WRITTEN
>ROYAL FORK ROYAL FORK ROYAL FORK

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Which os the canon difficulty? SoS?

Ded thread
Ded series

Boomer=Boomer's boomer > Zoomer > Doomer

dmd

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Hell and Hell

Ded best boy.

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D-Does he die in the end?

He fucks his mom clone

I might do that, but it really shouldnt be an issue given my hardware. its weird.

No, he just merges back with urizen to become vergil

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looks like that guy from kotor 2

So basically good as dead and will likely never be shown in the series again.

Performance issues during cutscenes are a common issue in every version of the game. I can get over 60fps at pretty much all times ingame, but cutscenes runs like ass.
Hell, even the Pro and X have bad frame drops at times in cutscenes.

Multiple threads up cuck

>game lore

they will bring him back with any kind of asspull possible if people will want him back

>Dante
>not straight
?
That isn't what "man's man" means, idiot.
>man's man: noun
>Definition of man's man
>: a man noted or admired for traditionally masculine interests and activities
Dante's making a bit of a joke playing off of "lady's man".

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Yes, we'll never have to suffer through another v cutscene again

It won't happen though. Majority opinion on V is that his gameplay is trash so you won't see him again.

As long as they don't bring back his retarded fighting style, I'd be down for it. But I have to ask, why is the human side of Vergil a gothic, poem-reading twink? What did they mean by this/

>yamato can cut the boundaries between the demon and human world
>"Hmm what would happen if I stick it inside my chest?"
>BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
>Vergil
>Demon King

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interesting, my rig can only play on medium-high for 60fps in game, but all cutscenes run just fine even if I boost it to ultra.

is hell and hell just sos enemy health pool and placement or should i expect all the shit that spawns in dmd to make an appearance?

Imagine if Dante had both halves separated.

D and Norizen?

the only suffering is my dick being held inside my pants and his annoying "combat" system

Why Dante didn't transform into SDT on DMC4?

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>why is the human side of Vergil a gothic, poem-reading twink? What did they mean by this/
Ever since 3 vergil has shown signs of being the "mild mannered intellectual brother"
Also Vergil lacked a personality when he wasnt going I NEED MORE POWER.
So they just ran with the poetry thing. Thats how he acts when alone.

That's what Vergil would have been like if Dante didn't bully him into being less of an obnoxious cunt

Same reason he didn't SDT into Vergil's face in DMC3. The devs didn't thought about it
>Since Dante accepted his demon and human sides, you get two Dantes

Vergil is a homosexual

Excuse me sir, can you please direct me to the part in DMC3 where Dante gets his arm ripped off by zombie Vergil but then gets it replaced by a robot one a few months later and Vergil splits himself into his human and demon side and said human side takes on a mind of his own and becomes Dante's ally and the demon side becomes a monstrous being and there's a tree/roots that suck the blood of civilians and later Vergil eats a fruit to become the demon king and then the human side rejoins with Vergil to make Vergil again and Dante and him cut down a tree in the underworld

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>literally the only people who like v want to fuck him
This is why no one likes you people

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Intent. Rebellion doesnt just randomly fuses things, just like the yamato doesnt open a portal every time it moves a bit, nor cut the soul of everyone it hits.
The wielder must actively want to use the special effect

>Same reason he didn't SDT into Vergil's face in DMC3
But he awakened his DT for the first time there, it's relevant. On DMC4 nothing happened.

It seems like it was something to do with the location, since both Vergil and Dante used their swords on themselves in the same spot, Vergil even reciting a ritual of some sort before doing it.

>anything Yea Forums being gay
Don't be a fujo user, Yea Forums is a chad can't you tell by his big dick energy?

>2 dantes
>they get in fights over which kind of pizza to order
>norizen keeps winning so Dante had to learn to like olives

It needed Sparda

More than a ritual it looked to me like Vergil was just being chunni as fuck like V

Mission 4 and secret mission 6
Pay more attention to the DEEP LOER next time

She seems to be able to shapeshifter via the Gloria disguise.

Can someone explain to me what's the whole "vergil's nightmare" thing? Will they be telling his story on the DLC, because it doesn't make any fucking sense Vergil is somewhat related to shadow, griffon and nighty.

>they just sit around the office doing nothing the whole day

That was just William Blake poetry. V fags think he just spontaneously remembered a childhood of being a nerd afterwards, but he just kept it hidden

>Vergil even reciting a ritual
He was just quoting blake. Something about "break those chains that hold me down"
Just being a poetry autist

He didn't have Sparda, also he didn't have the intent to do it because the way he found out was hearing that Vergil split himself using Yamato and wondered what would happen if he used Rebellion. Also how did Vergil just suddenly have his SDT if the way Dante did it was absorbing Rebellion and Sparda? Did he automatically get it after eating the fruit as Urizen?

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He spent a decade or whatever getting buttfucked by mundus and it gave him brain aids

Fruit power up, yeah

vergil was mundu's bitch between 3 and 1 and lived in mallet island with shadow, griffon, nightmare and other of mundu's servants. His familiars are but nightmares/memories of this time

>Dante just SDT instead of awakening his demon side
>DMC3 just ends there

Um Vergil

Could be that SDT has nothing to do with sparda except for using it as a power source. Pass a certain threshold and you just acquire the majin form, Vergil from the fruit and Dante from eating daddy's sword

So, Mundus was actually in his Sin Devil Trigger mode all along?

>Did he automatically get it after eating the fruit as Urizen?
That's usually the most accepted explanation. Urizen was strong enough to power vergil up enough to go majin

possibly

youtube.com/watch?v=WpqYz_dsIg4

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Chicken, Fatto, and Blob are all nightmares of his time as Nelo and the very corruption that was killing him in the beginning of the game. When Vergil separated his humanity from his devil the Nelo corruption was separated from it as well which is why V has the tattoos however when he joined back with Urzien the corruption was present but separate so they chose to die for Vergil so he can be completely cleansed.

I think SDT is just about having an excessive amount of power, because Dante had trouble with Urizen until he got SDT, which then he was still able to beat the powered up Urizen in presumably human form. Likewise, the excess power from the fruit gave Vergil SDT as well. Dante likely got the power from absorbing both Rebellion and Sparda into himself; it's possible that Rebellion is just the opposite of Yamato and seals things together instead.

No idea what Nero did to be stronger than both.

This sounds like a crazy stretch, I hope they give a proper explanation of these events "à la" Vergil's Downfall DLC.

>Sparda gives Dante Rebellion so he could fuse with the Sparda sword, apparently
>Vergil just gets the dimension slicing sword
Seems kind of uneven.

I swear you guys are all secretly homos

SDT's "The Luce" attack (the beam spam that come from dantes back and wings) is literally identical to one of Mundus moves in the flying segment of his boss fight

How is it so fucking good?
It sounds like a higher quality version of some SNES boss fight music

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>No idea what Nero did to be stronger than both.
love

Why does Vergil have a different eye colour than Dante and Nero

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PULL MY D

Sparda must have recognized very early on the direction both were going in, I mean this is a devil that separated human from demon world and ruled humanity for thousands of years so he's not dumb, so he equipped them appropriately. The human Dante was given a blade to accept the devil, and the Devil Vergil was given a blade to accept his humanity.

I don't think of it as any kind of mystical or anything, they're just a couple stubborn cunts who need a stabbing every now and then so they snap out of whatever pity party bullcrap they're on about at the moment. They're like goku, the power limit is always "just a little bit more than you need until the next arc starts" until [mcguffin] and the cycle starts again

Just SoS with one hit kill thing

Gotta consider than Dante and Vergil were already exhausted though

>implying wanting to fuck your waifu is a bad thing
Normalfags need to leave.

It's the same, he's just squeezing his eye and is on a different angle

because he's the Olpha and Amega

Probably the same reason why my eyes are marble blue with green in the middle and my brother has pure blue eyes. Genetics doing their thing.

>waifu
>not husbando
No user, you're the normalfaggot.

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Well, if adding more human to a demon made it stronger, why don't we have human trigger in DMC?

Dante had nightmares about his mother's death for years. Imagine how much PTSD Vergil must have from Mallet island, where he worked Griffon, Shadows, nightmare phantom and trish.
After getting split into human, all the memories ended on V, and he somehow managed to "tame" and use his own horrible memories to fight for him, out of necessity.
Think how Batman is afraid of bats and decided to share his fear with the criminals.

imagine being this mad over polygons

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Cutscenes use higher poly models and enable certain effects that aren't on in-game.

There's two ??? options at the bottom of the gallery's tutorial page. Anyone got those?

I think the argument is that Vfags are very shallow. They don't care about V outside of what fujo fantasys they can apply to him but fans of Dante, Nero, Vergil, and whoever else tend to usually have several paragraphs worth of reasons why they think that character is the best.

The power of Unga

>whiaker2_2_2_2.png
You're really grasping at straws huh. No, faggot, he's my waifu, because he's a twink and I'm the Chad in this goddamn fictional relationship.

Those other characters have starred in more than just DMC5 and the game's only been out for a week. I like V because he's quiet and autistic about poetry. There, you happy, faggot?

Nero can have his mother's eyes.
No idea about Dante

Imaging coping this hard

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Honestly, it's a stupid story. Why would Vergil even have nightmares about the said demons that were on Mallet at that time? Even as an Angelo he was far stronger than any of them, why would they give him "nightmares"? And the worse part is that it's implicit those demons weren't the "bad part" of him, they were actually good and wanted Vergil to be defeated.

not them but whats wrong with wanting to fuck a character for their face? how many nicofags saw her say all of two lines and decided they'd jerk off to her

and yeah the game's only been out a week, is too early for this characterfag vs characterfag crap

Probably Dante's "go nuts with the loadout" skull

>he's never seen OC before
>believing in transfaggotry
Yea Forums is so much worse than I remember

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Vergil is quiet and likes poetry. You like v because he's a twink and you're gross

>they've only been in one game
>they've only been out a few weeks
That didn't stop Vergilfags or Dantefags when DMC1 came out.

Nero ended up with the highest power level because he had the most he wanted to protect. And that sort of motivation is the source of power according to Dante in his final fight with Urizen.

>transfaggotry
I never said--oh, I see. You're an attention whore desperate for (You)s and stirring the shit pot. You're probably also extremely insecure about being a landwhale and having no girls or guys lust after you. Poor little attention whore.

it shows in this thread

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I have awoken
and i hope my fellow Ladyfags too

POST LADY!

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>he's a waifu because he's on bottom of my fictional fantasy relationship
You're so far gone you don't even realize how far gone you are

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thanks buddy, if it's just no damage sos then i'll be fine

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Being stronger than someone doesn't mean much when you are mundus bitch.
Also maybe the DMC1 didnt even hurt vergil, but they might have done shit that traumatized Vergil. Maybe torturing and sacrificing locals. Dont forget how many lost souls, sacrificial pits and and statues of stabbed women were in the island.

About Griffon not being "evil", i would assume vergil nightmares are chaotic neutral, and according to griffon "like to exist" (as they are tied to vergils memories in V), so they teamed up with V

I was gonna say something but you're exactly right. I saw a still of Nico before any video footage and I already liked her. Now I like her even more.

Sex with Lady!

>mfw there's new lewds for Lady
Today is a good day

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It takes into account your "deaths" so be careful

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Best Lady

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Vergil was minmaxed to fight Dante, he can't deal with command grabs and arm bullshit even with SDT

Wait, really? Post links, NOW!

LINK

.

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>might have done shit that traumatized Vergil
>Maybe torturing and sacrificing locals
Nigga, did you forget Vergil done this himself on both DMC3 and 5? He's way past the line of caring about puny humans.

>V got Thanos snapped in slow motion

>Lady can't use Kalina Ann anymore
Completely wrong. He's borrowing them. Lady probably took them back offscreen.

POST THE NICO ONES TOO

With Mundus and Sparda it always felt like just shedding human form, Sparda turns into bugman and Mundus sheds that statue look to reveal the lava-hand-eye form
>Fuck Yea Forums for giving me error everytime i try to post a pic

If V took the v out of Vergil's name, why is Urizen called Urizen and not Ergil?

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No

Using DT on royal fork is better than on summoning Nigthmare?

Don't you dare say it!

Nico whipped up Kalina Ann 2 pretty fast. Lady will probably have Kalina Ann 3 in the dlc.

>mfw played through this shit 10 times, got all achievements and just yesterday found out Lady and Trish have alternate looks

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Vergil's human side cared about puny humans in Before The Nightmare

In my head Nero only won by the dint of having element of suprise. He was an unknown to Vergil when it comes to his fighting style so he got a drop on him just this once. I wouldn't be suprised if they had a rematch and Vergil would adjust and wipe the floor with Nero.

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>DMD in 5 is lol just shoot them
ftfy

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read that as pony humans, got concerned.

People should stop producing shit for Lady and start making the good stuff for Nico. She's the real deal.

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>but wait the 3142 book-
Oh. They actually did change it. Why?

V mugs someone for Dante's rent money, then he turns around and spends a month trying to save random civvies from the tree. He's kind of a weird dude

No.

Because you can't read.

how do you make the baby faust spawn?

Manga Griffon chose to team up with V out of necessity, I think it's implied that he had to fight the other two

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back+style

Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot I hate you

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Because he is your reason to fight

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which manga is this

Because they realized how retarded that lineup was. There's significantly less asspulling putting 2 before 4. You can even use it to explain why Dante became less of a cunt from 2. He gets curious when he sees his nephew fighting scarecrows one armed in the opening cutscene, and his first real banter only starts after he beelines it to his human assassination target, which is a pretty 2 thing to do.

>press lock on button
>game lock ons at the farthest enemy possible instead the one in front of me whom I trying to kill
I love DMC5 but how do I fix this shit? It's fucking up my combos and I don't want to press the left analog everytime to make it right.

More autistic photos of him please.

Why would Griffon even want to defeat Urizen?

Visions of V
i think

I think there's some kind of "smart lock" option. I notice it with v the most, sometimes I'm trying to gray out one more enemy and it'll keep locking on to someone ready to pop

Long hair = Tranny
To that guy at least.

Ouran High School Host Club.

>Bloodshot eyes
does Bui do the drugs

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If they're parts of Vergil's identity, Griffon is probably the part of Dante that rubbed off on him, only with less of a good nature

>empursa queen on DMD
I thought you were memeing about DMD bullshittery

It locks onto an enemy in the direction you last pointed your left stick
It's a little odd and they never explain it but I liked it once I figured that out

Depends on your situation and enemies you're facing
Royal Fork is an aoe attack that interrups, slows down and staggers your enemies with a huge invincibility window

No Vergil wtf

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jane's adicktion

thanks for the new screensaver

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Oh my fucking god, thanks user.

What does it even do? I spawn that shit and it does nothing.

REEE GIVE ME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR KEY BINDINGS ON KEYBOARD.

I am so glad games are starting to have camera modes for reasons like this.

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BROS

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Wait WHAT HOW
Also muh

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KEK

>Having this mod active during story missions or BP will likely cause a crash as it will try to load in a bunch of bosses at once
So you're telling me levels would be filled with bosses? someone do this.

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I hope this is true.

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new thread

>HUGE WARNING! This mod is intended to only be active while you are in the void. Having this mod active during story missions or BP will likely cause a crash as it will try to load in a bunch of bosses at once. Be sure to disable this mod if you will be going anywhere besides The Void!

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It sucks that this isn't in the game by default. How the fuck am I supposed to practice without playing through entire missions to reach the boss and then losing orbs all the time upon dying?

also nude mod for Nico when?

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Because every other V design looks a lot more than a human Vergil would look and they chose the raggy faggot with sandals for some reason. Vergil is suave, not a crack hobo fag.

Fuck, I hate everything about this guy's design. At least I like the gameplay.

Alt+F4
Who the fuck plays DMC on a keyboard.

Already there

You are muh

Because he didn't have Sparda with him to absorb. Rebellion had already awakened his DT back at 3.

Ironically, he probably thought Vergil would grow up as the responsible, stronger brother.