I don't see how mobile shit can compete with actual JRPGs like Xenoblade 2, Octopath Traveler, and SMT

>The only gacha I know where the fans care strictly about the gameplay is Dx2
That doesn't even make sense, Dx2's gameplay is atrocious and it has one of the worst UIs I've ever seen.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it just an ios game that is playable on computers? I know a number of people play gachas on computers instead of their phone.

No, it was designed for browsers first and foremost. They're even stopping support of their apps.

Granblue feels more as Final Fantasy than any other FF game released in years. It feels like a sequel of old schools FF.

Its a browser game, you can also play it on your phones browser
You can also download the app but thats shit because its pretty much just a bad browser thats limited to granblue

And yet, I see people play it. I enjoy megaten myself and ecen gave it a try, the terrible UI, boring combat, and huge grind made me quit after five days.

It's in a different league imho.
But Granblue is going AAA if I remember correctly, I don't no if it counts tho.

This. I can't fucking wait for Relink. It looks exactly like what Final Fantasy should have been.

Being a browser game is why the UI is shit and there are loading screens for every single menu interaction.

Gachafags need to be gassed.

Interesting, I thought it started as a mobile game.
This is what I see alot of people claim when defending it. I get that people miss tbe days of more typical jrpgs but even then from everything I've seen about it it just looks sort of tedious to play with the gacha aspect. When I need my generic jrpg fix DQ fills the void perfectly.

because nintendo games are even more casual than mobile games

Best and most accurate post this thread

Nice bait. Nothing ismore casual the gacha shit, it's the equivalent to Fortnite in Japan.

What about Nintendo mobile games?

Because it makes money.

Granblue have the best doujins of all the gachashit, so it's the best by my book.

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Granblue is an amazing game, but fuck me, that grind has no place being in any game, even a gacha game.
Fuck, you need to treat it like a fucking job if you want to make any halfway decent progress, I just stopped caring about events and roll whenever I get 3k during flashfest

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Reading the article the dude doesnt even play the game, if he did he would know that the game is fucking full of homos

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based and redpilled

First, I'll start with the progression.
People like to see progress. Hero level, MMR, battle pass level, you name it. Gran Blue is amazing in that regard.
Your main character have shitton of class that they can level, and they also came in tier too (imagine FF tactic, ragnarok online or whatever with tiered job), then after those class level is maxed, you can enter the Mastery territory for even more progression.
This already time consuming main character progression is coupled with the weapon grid system, multiple party composition combos, and bosses that actually need preparation and strategy to defeat.
Basically, in terms of things to do/progression, Gran Blue really got all other mobile game/browser game, and even some RPG game beat.

Next comes the generosity of the game.
Their developer is very generous with giving freebies, and there are units in the game that must be obtained manually and not via the gacha, and the units are strong too. You can think of it like obtaining knight of the rounds/ultima weapon/omega weapon/whatever strong unlockables exist in your prefered RPG.
Unlocking end-game stuff like this is always a bonus point in RPG right.

Fate's seem better in my experience.

>100% story is easy as shit
I'll give you chapters 1-60, then the fucking rapebird shows up, and then from 100 onwards you're just reading text and fighting the occasional bosses that require at least an invested grid, rarely any fodder enemies exist these days.

The gameplay is fine, if it wasnt people would not submit themselves to the grind. And there are a ridiculous number of free characters in the story and Side stories that are more than servicable for every element.
Except for Dark and Light, Light only got better VERY recently due to WMTSB2 being shoved into side stories. Its still a bitch to grind that is for some reason more timegated than other elements but whatever, theres gotta be whalebait somewhere right

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It is. It's why it gets the most too.

>full of cuckoldry and whoring
>better
Yikes.

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Fuck that new shit get yourself Suikoden 1/2 and FF6 and remind yourself of the golden days. Highly recommend a cfw PSP for retro JRPG goodness

I love Monkey!

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Who's the character with the doll joints and when can I get her?

I respect myself so I wont post that stupid image with the monster can, but just know that you deserve it for being such a dumb stupid asshole

Get her with your wallet

The two point I mentioned above is stuff that would count as objective fact, these next stuff is more subjective and will depend on each people preference.

The battle system.
If you like turn based battle system where you need to prepare your strategy beforehand, Gran Blue is great. For examples, there are boss that would do instant kill attack to your party when it reach 25% HP, boss that would heal itself when it reached limit break status, boss what would debuff you to oblivion. Finding a way to defeat these bosses with the party composition can be quite challenging, which is one of the aspect of fun.

The community.
Game with live community can improve your enjoyment, and GBF has this.

The developer.
Cygames is great. Using Yea Forums lingo, they're saving the industry, so its no wonder that some people are shilling for them.

combat is great since it's just Press Turn exactly as it is on console SMT games, dungeon crawling though...

>Cygames is great. Using Yea Forums lingo
Shitty meme translations are not great.

The trick to granblue grinding is to get serviceable teams and grids in every element (m1 should be fine), so that you can just auto about 80% of the game raids. That way the fights are literally click skills -> click orange button -> click auto -> open another browser window for shitposting and other stuff while you wait for the fight to end. Not really a big deal if you're already doing other stuff on your computer. The grind is only hard when you have to get mats from the more difficult raids, or when you're doing a train since those can take a long time to finish.

Nothing is perfect. However, lots of other thing that Cygames do is a positive thing from my point of view.

boy it sure doesn't sound like an amazing game then

>we live in a time line where gacha is being accepted as a JRPG "game"
What a time to be a live.

>yfw oracles get implemented
>are a tremendously fucking bullshit and TIMELOCKED turbogrind
ahem, dear KMR:
fuck astras. fuck ideons, too, but since you need FAR fewer ideons they're not really the cockblock. You'll be swimming in them before you collect FUCKING ASTRA MATS REEEEEEE

>all 4*+ characters are useful
>devs give free summons pretty often
>engaging combat, no turn based or 100% auto shit
>can be played with one hand
>God tier art style and character design
>God tier music by based DAOKO

what went right?

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Astras are literally cancer to get, Im pretty sure it takes double the amount of time to get a card as it does to uncap a fucking eternal

I don't even mind the longer grind for them, but I'm worried about the cost of the GW evolite. It better fucking not cost as much as a gold bar does.

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>play shadowverse a year ago and stopped
>Forte is cute
>Granblue Forte is a shortstack cow
Why all of my why

Not their revenue, that's for sure.

Its funny seeing Xenofags try clown this. Your game was ruined by gacha trash that ruined exploration by constant gate keeping.

Aren't there light and dark seraphic soon?

>All 3* Characters are useless
>Devs give shitty summons that dont mean shit against 5* summons
>controls are fucking garbage
>Shit literally drains phone battery because they thought shitty 3D models would be a selling point
>Art style is trash
>Daoko music wasnt even made for the game

>>>>>>>>NO EMULATION ALLOWED

Bloons Tower Defence

Bloons TD 5 is some good shit. Played that on both my mobile and my Switch for ages. Too bad the daily login reward feature is bugged on the Switch.

I play FEH and granblue simultaenously, and I think it gives me a certain appreciation for how well Granblue treats their players. While IS is nickel and Diming us by removing 10, 15 orbs (Literally going against Nintendos wishes to not promote excessive P2W nature in their mobile games) and repeatedly refusing to demote brand new units (The last Blue demote we got was fucking SEPTEMBER, I dont even remember the last red demote but it was before that),

GBF is giving us free crystals out the whazoo, writing entertaining events, pandering to the fanbase like their lives depend on it, do a months worth of free daily rolls, giving us the previously exclusive anime BD skins and Stickers for completely free, cutting the grind in half for most items, doubling the amount of items you can get, etc etc.

It really pisses me off

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>Worse gacha rates than FGO
>Wyrmprints designed to break pity rates and are fucking useless
>Unavoidable attacks in an action game that enforce minimum HP thresholds to complete the stage which also enforces gacha characters and/or gacha dragons and also specific wyrmprints you need to grind for years for
>Time limits also enforce DPS thresholds
>Recycling the same two events ad infinitum, even using reskins of the same boss
>Battle music is good and the menu theme is fun but all the other music is absolute fucking trash
>Story is terrible
>Cast is terrible
>Setting is as deep as a puddle
>Localisation is 8-4's typical garbage
>Localisation is also censored
Not much.

Buriedbornes

Chess

Oh yeah, I forgot one.
>All the good character designs are recycled from an abandoned mobage with Yoshida art (Knights of Glory)
>All the original character designs are shit

Xenoblade 2 was fun at first but was kinda bad in hindsight
Persona 5 suffers from series fatigue
Octopath Traveller was really formulaic
The only other JRPG I played in recent years besides the three is Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth which was complete dogshit

Those four games made me realise I didn't like JRPG as much as I think I did but then GBF Versus and Relink got announced and here I am just done with the tutorial for the web game after three months. I have no idea why I'm enjoying it but I'm enjoying it, though apparently HL is where the honeymoon period ends so we'll see how it goes.

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A good gacha is still a gacha.
>but it's generous!
Dev's "generosity" should not be a factor in game design.

is that Polygon

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Xenoblade 2 is way worse than Granblue, especially since it’s like some shitty modern seasonal anime while Granblue is like classic JRPGs. Xenoblade 2 has gacha in it too.

fpbp

>Xenoblade 2 has gacha in it too.
Except you don't have to pay any money for it so it doesn't really matter.

Cope

Because Granblue is huge, also it managed to fund actual games with the help of competent devs so its ok in my book

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It's still shit game mechanic.
Even worse than in Granblue. And implemented worse than in any other mobile gacha game.

which makes it all the more retarded
>i-it gives variety for playthroughs!
and then there's fucking Merc Missions

leave mobile shit to mobileshit, there's absolutely no reason to have those on an actual video game

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>i-it gives variety for playthroughs!
fun thing that they could do that way better.
just implementation sucked balls.

>free vs. 60 dollars
>doesn't require a 400 dollar console but can be played in literally any browser
>great music and character designs (the most important part of an RPG let's be honest)

It honestly does compare to shittier JRPGs on those metrics, but the actual writing and gameplay is just too shit to take his opinion seriously. He's clearly an addict trying to justify playing his mobage over actual games.

I hate rerolling, but I want cute lolis in my team, how much time I'll have to waste rerolling untill I draw a good one on average? Potatoes not welcome.

Exactly. What's wrong with just having all options available for players to choose for themselves instead of forcing RNG?

I got stuck in front of a field skill check in the main story so I had to go around and spend a few hours to get crystals to roll the right skill, what the fuck. Even gachashit isn't that retarded.

Xenoblade going mobile baby

Disgaea did

Because gachashit actually have to look at competition to survive, and smooth out any gripe people may have with it, cause as soon potential player will have a problem with game, he'll just delete it and no money will be sucked out of him.
With Xenoblade 2 Monolith just took overall as basic as possible idea of gacha - and implemented it. Without ever trying to see what works in mobile games and draw parallels.
I don't care about lack of staff, rushed development and such - this mistake happened before development started - on drawing board.
And they commited to it to the end. Despite probably at some point realizing how did they fucked up. And they fucking gets rewarded for that fuck up regardless for no apparent reason, with awards, sales, and other shit.

>still on maintance
that started out well

Next time name actual good games not trash like XB2 and Octopath traveller

what's wrong with octopath? I recently started playing it, aside of having to go and see every character prologue therefore stretching game to a slog which made me put it on hold for now.

At least we can all agree XB2 is a bad game

word

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> xbc2
> bad
what's so bad because outside of the gacha thing its a really good game certainly better than every jrpg to come out recently aside from vesperia

Japs like gambling, they are never at home to play videogames anymore.

I thought it was okay but the all the mobage elements really, REALLY drags the whole game down, from a 7/10 to a 4/10

>mobage elements
what does that even mean because every time I hear a complaint about this game its always buzzwords.

Gamers are dumb idiots who can't manage money. They will spend more on gacha than they ever did on PlayStation.

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Octopath Traveler was dull. Every single one of the stories was generic JRPG shit, the only thing the game had going for it was the combat and music.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was cancer. Gacha shit, offline MMO shit, cringeworthy writing.

gacha and merc missions
>oh you don't have the right field skills?
>fuck you go waste a few hours grinding and rolling blades
>our players spent hundreds of hours on the game, this shows that they loved it

No. We can't. I enjoyed it a ton and got more than my money's worth out of it.

It's not a great game but it's undeniably the best Xenoblade game from a gameplay, balance and story perspective; Xenosaga 3 and Xenogears are way better though, particularly storywise.

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Bullet hell monday

spend 150 hours on it
couldn't love it.
It started alright, that's why I kept playing but amount of buzywork they added to just waste your time and be annoying was just too much and didn't reward you with anything devent at all. So I gave up, finished boring and predictable story and put it away.

The only decent aspects of it are story and character design. Everything else is mediocre or just bad. It's more or less on the same level as Vesperia, actually, a 3.5-4/10 game.

Yeah I spent about as much time as you did but I did finish it. I enjoyed it even, but looking back the game is completely wack.

It's a jrpg that is painfully mediocre or worse in every way besides waifus. Stop letting your dick control you. It's extremely cliche with godawful, cringy dialogue and characters, one of the worst huds/menus in recent memory and boring single player mmo gameplay that has the grindiness of a gatcha. But it's got anime girls in it so it's 10/10 gotyay, right?

surely no-one takes the gayboys at rps seriously?
especially when in regards to a jrpg

This. I'm Dutch, gambling is not in my blood and it doesn't do anything for me except make me feel stupid.

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t. someone who didn't play it

Super Cunny Adventure.

Whatever you gotta say to convince yourself. Remember, if you spend enough time with your waifu in the game, you can pretend that she loves you back.

it's the only game worth playing on switch that isn't another fucking port

Xenoblade 2 is purely for waifufags
gachashit is purely for waifufags.

I pre-ordered it and I think all his points are legit.

I mean I technically finish it too.
But I didn't go full on on sidequests and developing blades and so on.
Cause the more I played sidequests the more I've seen them being pretty damn dull with characters not worth caring for.
While all that side stuff usually is the drive force behind playing other jRPGs for me.

>The writing is also surprisingly subversive. Both genders are equally capable. Two prominent characters are trans, even, and neither is treated with derision. While there is fan service it rarely, if ever, stoops to lengthy male gazing and women are catered for as well. Religion is never the cheap gag the genre so often relegates it to. Yet Granblue does get problematic at times. Some of the fan service is a lot harder to excuse when the average player is apparently forty-plus and male. While queer-coded characters are sensitively handled there are, notably, no actual gay men. And there’s very few people of colour, apart from a handful who veer into eye-rolling stereotypes, for all their charm.

so you're retarded?
only mentally disabled people still preorder games

It kinda still makes sense for limited editions with good stuff. For all it faults Xenoblade 2 LE had decent sized artbook.

I thought the HUD/menu was extremely comfy, it had a late 90's clean, corporate look that appealed to me. Stacking blade combos and driver combos and chain attacks reminded me of photon blasts in PSO and I haven't played a lot of MMOs so aspects like aggro and auto-attack didn't seem out of place in a single player game. The ugu kawaii shit is as a bit cringe, but at least cringe is a feeling.

Yeah, that's why I like the game.

The hud is 1 "semen meter" away from a Yea Forums mock up. The menus are a bit better but the hud is irredeemable.

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I don't have much issues with HUD, but menu, oh god. Screen after screen after screen after screen.
Want to change equipment? One screen.
Want to change blade? Other screen.
Want to change blade's equipment? Third screen.
And so on.

And you don't have to pay any money for GBF's, either. In fact, you also don't have to buy a game, or a whole DLC story for GBF. But does XBC2 have micotransactions so you can roll more?

I'm pretty sure they do, like blade packs or some shit iirc

Fuck gacha games, they killed the "Recruitment JRPG" sub-genre

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XB2 is tied with Rance X and DQ11 for JRPG of the generation, sweetie.

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You made that way too obvious.

What's the best way to play GBH in english on an android phone?

there's one piece of dlc for the whole game, it gets you everything

>he actually believes this
Yikes. Xenoblade 2 fans are mentally ill.

Ah yes, mech you only see in cutscene and this one in DLC in cutscene and final battle where it just background piece.

Trails of Cold Steel goes "recruitment game" in the second game with no strings attached and zero gacha (but you're not recruiting party members, just people around the country to upgrade and run your airship)
Don't know if 3 or 4 still have recruitment since they're not translated, but I know 4 has like 45 playable party members

Replace Dragon Quest 11 with the latest Utawaremono and I'd agree with you.

fippybippy

> DQ11
that actually is what people think xbc2 is, a boring by the books jrpg or does it get a free pass due to the flaming faggot in the party because one of the other complaints I hear too much about xbc2 is those problematic large breast that incels like so much.

DQ11 is fine. XB2 needs to be replaced.

> muh fag pandering garbage is good I swear it even has art from that dragonball guy
get that dull trash out of here DQ was never good, its just a poor mans FF and even that series is in the shitter

DQ always gets a pass for some reason.

Holy fucking BASED. Neptuniacringe 2 is literally the Fallout 76 of JRPGs, there's no denying it now. Everyone on Yea Forums agrees with this.

DQ is great but post-DQ3 DQ can never be JRPG of any generation because DQ is too barebones gameplay wise and by the books story wise.
A proper JRPG of the generation list would be
1. Rance X
2. Utawarerumono: Mask of Truth
3. Xenoblade 2

because it's quality

>1. An untranslated porn game
>2. Some obscure visual novel tactical RPG with waifus
>3. Offline MMO
cringe

. Some obscure visual novel tactical RPG with waifus
it also started as a SRPG porn game

There's a great game hidden under the core crystal bullshit.

And under the bad plot, dialogue, characters, ui, gameplay, etc.

>DQ is too barebones gameplay wise and by the books story wise.
Better than having shit gameplay that wastes your time like Xenoblade 2. The story is also cringe as fuck anime tropes. Anyone calling it good, let alone one of the best this gen, is a shit eating weeb.

...

1. Sen no Kiseki III
2. Utawarerumono Futari no Hakuoro
3. Death End re;Quest

>The story is also cringe as fuck anime tropes
are you saying xenoblade 2 is like dragon quest now?

>Any Sen
>CH anything
Horrible preferences

Which JRPGs are good? I mean actually good, not some shit regurgitated from an e-celeb shill.

DQ isn’t cringe and it’s tropes are the quality wholesome type, not the basedboy beta male haremshit waifutrash seasonal anime fans eat up.

trick question

Any Sen and most Compile Heart games except the original HDN and mk2 are much better than any Xeno.

People play JRPGs because they're "comfy", not because they're good.

Xenoblade 2 is garbage, it truly feels like a Neptunia game, except somehow more floaty and clunky, the combat is also terrible.
Octopath Traveler was a rehash of old ideas and was literally forgotten a week after release.
SMT is good, nothing to say there

Have you actually played Octopath? Its an awful game with no depth even by JRPG standards. The entire game is banking out on that retro nostalgia appeal but its an otherwise unremarkable and below average game.

FF6, CT, Suikoden 2, Lost Odyssey, Xenoblade 1, etc. Stay away from the anime shit and there is quality to be found.

>I got stuck in front of a field skill check in the main story so I had to go around and spend a few hours to get crystals to roll the right skill, what the fuck. Even gachashit isn't that retarded.

You would be the retarded one, there is literally no story required skill check that cannot be completed using the blades you get by default.

Thankfully Xenoblade 2 isn't like that either. The director states that he doesn't even understand or enjoy modern anime much and formed the basis for Xenoblade 2's plot from his favourite childhood and young adulthood anime from the 70s, 80s, and 90s with a hint of 00s.. XB2's story and general tone resembles Gainax and its split-offs more than anything modern;

>Stay away from the anime shit
>recommends suikoden 2, chrono trigger and a fucking Xeno game.

Xeno is trash

Hero Senki

jrpg threads here are so full of bullshit lol, everyone's too far gone, they never consume other media

The Soul Blazer trilogy is really good. Kind of like Link To The Past with more RPG elements and better stories.

nah, I play other games.
EDF 5 for example.

iirc it was in Spirit Crucible Elpys, the part where you have to burn spiderwebs. Something to do with Flame Mastery I think? It's been more than a year so I don't remember exactly what happened, but up to that point I never used any other Blades besides the main ones so I was kind of behind in terms of field skills.

He failed miserably then. It looks like a shitty seasonal anime, reads like one, develops like one, etc. It is by all means the sort of waifu moeshit and beta cancer you can find today. Don’t give a fuck about what the director """""intended"""".

Then name something. The most modern thing I can think of that resembles Xenoblade 2 was Erementar Gerad
and Eureka 7 and those came out in 2005 and 2006 respectively.

Having slightly anime art doesn’t make them anime shit.

Also the "PC version" is utter trash. Its literally a laggy browser game. I tried playing it for hours and NEVER got used to it

> Final Fantasy
> not anime
the more it strays from anime the worst it got

are you a wrpg fan by chance because yall niggas need to point me into the direction of a good one set in the wild west or an wrpg equivalent to the wild arms games

they all are anime shit, especially fucking xenoblade 1 where takahashi said himself it's a "shonen anime story"
youtube.com/watch?v=j-i-88PWfXs

>Worse gacha rates than FGO
But with 20x the free rolls
>Unavoidable attacks
Valid complaint
>Need specific dragons/characters
Its a gacha, the fuck do you expect
>Time limits
DPS checks aren't a bad thing, even 3 Xainfrieds have cleared HBH so its not even an issue
>Other music is terrible
Lmao
>Recycling events
A non-issue since new years
>Story is terrible
Not since Albert's raid
>Cast is terrible
Sure
>Setting is deep as a puddle
Sure? Its a 6 month old game, nobody knows shit about the setting
>Localization sucks
Sure
>All the original designs suck
Curran's absolutely fantastic

It's not anime if I like it. Or is this your first time on Yea Forums?

Almost any modern isekai anime. Beta boy finds himself powerful as fuck with girls after his dick for no reason, and then he travels with his party to save the world from generic bad guys. It also has the same retarded humor and no actual character development. It’s just pandering trash with no substance.

didn't shield hero got anime adaptation? that one is alright.

>Posting objectively worse games than GBF
I'll give you SMT but you could have at least said Last Remnant, Suikoden, Shadow Hearts or something else actually good instead. Instead you went with Takahashi's most recent garbage fire and shallow nostalgia traveller.

>Beta boy finds himself powerful as fuck
> boy gets his shit kicked in so bad he wants to quit and the rest of the party has to tell him to man the fuck up
> one of the actual complaint about the game is winning a boss fight just to get your ass handed to you in the story scene several times
> character that gives him power gives boy shit because she's doing all the work for post battle dialogue
> powerful as fuck
if you say so

So you can't actually name anything, got you.

>isekai
This alone doesn't make sense considering isekai takes place in another world.
>beta
Doesn't describe the protagonist; his basic personality's inspired by 80s protagonists like child Goku and Wataru.
>finds himself power as fuck
The entire purpose of Xenoblade 2 was the opposite, though. It was "boy finds super weapon, but he's too weak the use it properly". At least half of the game consists of the protagonist getting his ass kicked and being told that -he- alone needs to get stronger to be more effective, which he eventually does.
>girls after his dick for no reason
Like most anime protagonists for the last 30 years? I don't see where this complaint rises from since other Xeno games were guilty of multiple characters falling in love with the protagonist as well. Only three girls in the story actually show feelings for Rex, two of them are two different sides of one person and the other gets shot down and it's never brought up again;
>and then he travels with his party to save the world from generic bad guys
Like 90% of JRPGs from any era; I wouldn't call its villain besides Bana or Jin generic though.
>It also has the same retarded humor
That's outright bullshit, though. That "same" retarded humor has been a staple of shonenshit since the early 80s, it didn't just appear with modern isekai.
>no actual character development
The most character development Xeno's gotten since Xenosaga.
>It's just pandering trash with no substance
It's steeply rooted in Leibniz philosophy, with heavy inspirations of Jung and Freud like any other Xeno game.

>Eureka 7
is good, it's stretched REALLY FUCKING THIN, but it's a good coming of age story

It was fun thread while it lasted, the defense force arrived.

What is the 'effort' being described here. Signing up and clicking the button?

From what I've read it's love it or hate it even among the people that like isekai, and if you don't like isekai obviously you hate because it fails to avoid falling into the clichés

based

Shield hero goes to shit after the first 2 arcs because the author had no idea what he was doing afterwards. Anime will probably finish after the first arc at least, so just pretend the story ends there. Most isekai were published off of syousetsuka ni narou so of course most of them are awful, amateurish and have no concept of pacing because it was all made up on the fly with barely any preplanning.

Some of them are "good", but all of them have pacing issues.

tutorial takes a few months apparently

>b-but look at this random shit no one cares about that doesn’t make it better
Cringe, you have no argument. It’s modern trash and it’s evident to anyone with a brain.

Yeah thread was good while it lasted. But as we all know, you can’t criticize XB2 without the autistic defense force desperately trying to defend it.

>never released outside japan
what does that mean? it already has english translation, what's the point of a localised "release" if you can just open the game on damn near everything?

I do read a little too much of isekai manga, honestly, it's a dumb setup but at times people do fun things with it. Specifically because of overpopulation of genre, some authors come up with interesting situations.
Shield hero tho, it starts really different, but after awhile it mostly settles on being more or less generic adventure thing. I kept reading more cause I like shield gimmick.
Yeah, I feel ya. It kinda goes nowhere atm. There is like one really good one for hundred others, but I still kinda read too much of them.
I'd say one of my favorites is Ore to Kawazu-san no Isekai Hourouki.

Kumoko and Mushoku Tensei were fun but Id be hard pressed to call them really good. Best isekai I can think of is Shinju no Nectar, but that one was made by a veteran, already established mangaka so it's not surprising. But it does feel a little too "safe"

>Kumoko and Mushoku Tensei
They were alright but kinda not something rememberable, I dropped them fast.
>Shinju no Nectar
this one is great however.
But maybe adding bare boobs as whole series gimmick was a bit too plainly obvious way to sell it.
I can think of few more good ones, like Drifters and Youjo Senki.
Oh and Slime is mostly alright, I heard adaptation was decently receieved.

>make bullshit claim
>get told otherwise and given examples
>"n-nobody cares"
wew lad

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Cope

hold up
how can this nigga run 3 blades at level 10? I'm level 20 and can't have 3 blades yet.

Yea Forums mock-ups parody bloated HUDs with useless information, though. Everything in that HUD actually does serve a purpose and integral to the combat system;
Whoever took that screencap turned on all of the text too for shitposting purposes. Normally you wouldn't see "Pyra" "Fudor", "Kirin", "Daring Shot - High HP", "Armor Crusher - Launched^/Piercing", and "Grenade Launcher - AOE / Blowdown". Regardless, that text still isn't useless since it's an option for people who can't remember icons.

All Xenoblade HUDs just have a lot going on; but all of the information shown is important.

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Cry harder bitch

eric

>muh bogeyman
Kill yourself. Even weebshit JRPGfags hate XB2 cucks. No one wants you here.