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kill yourself phoneposting tranny

>people thought this would be good

Was only mildly interested before now will ignore

>giving a shit about shitsidian

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triggered much?

>singling out Steam specifically
Epic really wants them.

regardless oh what the company is ill take a good western rpg in a heartbeat. so pirating it is i guess

carrie is cute!

it does have REALLY shit writing in the trailer
even a single person from FNV team can make this game BTFO any bethesda game since morrowind though

From the creative minds who brought you Kills-In-Shadows comes Rick & Morty's Outer Worlds.
>chink store exclusive for a year
>but you can buy it on M$' abysmal Windows 10 store after a year wait (bear in mind all the games exclusive to that have failed spectacularly badly, the biggest one was Sam "Hey Remember Me I Made Max Payne!" Wake's Quantum Leap game that no one played. it was a movie-game anyway you could watch the whole thing on youtube

It's not like I was gonna buy it...

>obsidian

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>shitsidian

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Just don't want to support these kind of creatures t bh. As a matter of fact i want to see them getting violently murdered.

>nu-obsidian
>anyone caring

Twice they put that dude with a beer gut in the middle back row. Why?

he's a big dyke

>"I'm boycotting this game now!!!"
>Why? Do you really want to suck Valve's dick so much even though they have done nothing for you?
>"B-but it's on the same store as Fortnite!!! I'm a big boy who doesn't play baby games!"
this is really pathetic even for you Yea Forums

based chinese insectoid poster

>Triggered authoritarian bootlicker.

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yikes dropped

you have to go back

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I legitimately don't understand what anyone's problem with this is. In the past examples I can understand it feels like a bait and switch, since they backed for a Steam key, and were instead given an Epic one. But with this it's literally just saying it's going to come out on another launcher. Everyone's complaining about the "balkanization" of the PC market and exclusivity as if the requirement isn't as simple as taking 5minutes to download another launcher and get the game.

Steam is shitty DRM just the same, we've hated on Steam for years now. Seeing so many people upset that someone's fucking Steam over is just baffling to me.

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YIKES BRO!!!! cringe af desu XD ))

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>I legitimately don't understand what anyone's problem with this is.
Then maybe you should dedicate a few minutes of your time to research instead of mouthing off like a fucking faggot.

this is going at the issue from an incorrect assumption
people don’t like epic games because they are Chinese spyware, not just because they are competing with valve

>Speaking in memes.
Cringe.

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>Halo on Steam
>Quantic Dream infecting anything besides PS
>Cuphead on Switch

A week ago, if you told me that any of these are happening, I would have called you crazy. Shame about TOW and Control, though.

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>as if the requirement isn't as simple as taking 5minutes to download another launcher and get the game.

Why would anyone want to have more than one launcher on their PC.
At this point its just easier to pirate, at least you don't have to deal with Epic/origin/bethesda bullshit

Female writers should be an absolute minority if a video game is to be good. There's a definite correlation there.

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based retard era poster

Okay. Then why not just have the Epic launcher? They've got all the good games these days it seems.

oh nice, I love pirate bay exclusives

idk, I don't have a problem with women, its just that they are pozzed idiots. There have been plenty of female writers and creators in the games industry that were just great.
Sad that their legacy is getting shit all over by these feminist idiots

name three

Obsidian were never good

there, I said it

FFS when will you retards realize that epic store being a spyware thing is a bullshit

>I legitimately don't understand what anyone's problem with this is

Ignorance of real problems doesn't make you right. Of course you don't know what anyone's problems are, you haven't tried to educate yourself on it. Steam is a convenient and established ecosystem for games and game releases where you can get all the information you need on the state of the game you are interested in purchasing. You have a community with an established ruling on refunds for games you buy that you would like your money back on for various reasons, whereas Epic games store is the opposite of that and there are many cases of people not being able to get a refund that would be legitimate on the steam store.

And if you think it is okay for a game store that takes your credit card information for game purchases to spy on your browser and local files, a game store is practically owned by the chinese government, than you are far gone from being reasoned with

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I don't play any games epic has though.
Plus I have hundreds of really good games in my backlog on steam/3ds/vita/ps4 not to mention emu stuff.
And if they did get a game I'm interested in as an exclusive, then I would just be put off of the game. Its not like I'm dying to add something else to the backlog.

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it is, so is steam and every other launcher and piece of software
why should we add one more though?

>tfw Amy Hennig will never ever finish Legacy of Kain

it hurts

twitter posting should be an immediate public permaban.

eurogamer.net/articles/2019-03-15-epic-responds-to-accusations-its-launcher-accesses-steam-data-without-permission

>Vogel confirmed the Epic Games store uses a tracking pixel, aka tracking.js for the company's Support-A-Creator program, so it can pay creators. He also confirmed the app tracks page statistics. Elsewhere, Vogel confirmed the launcher sends a hardware survey at a regular interval, which, he stressed, is outlined in Epic's privacy policy.

>Vogel then confirmed the launcher scans your active processes to prevent updating games currently running, but insisted this information was not sent to Epic.

>"We only import your Steam friends with your explicit permission," Vogel added. "The launcher makes an encrypted local copy of your localconfig.vdf Steam file. However information from this file is only sent to Epic if you choose to import your Steam friends, and then only hashed ids of your friends are sent and no other information from the file."

>Vogel's post sparked a number of responses from users wondering why Epic's launcher did all this behind the scenes work in the first place - and apparently without permission. As redditor eorl put it: "My profile on Steam is set to private, yet you are snooping around my local disk scanning Steam and I've not even connected Steam to Epic.

>"You can't excuse this one on the basis of data collection because this isn't your application you are lifting from, especially when we haven't even allowed you to do so. This is straight up spyware shit and it's fucking disgusting. "Also thanks for that weird as fuck last line. I'm glad to know it's just Tim goggling at my private data."

There is something weirdly wrong with me. Where I don't really give a shit where I buy the game. But since everyone here is throwing an autistic fit at EGS, I want it to succeed and cheer this shit on just so I can read the salt in these threads.

>WE ARE BRAKING STEAM MONOPOLY, POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
>Oh cool, does it mean you are releasing it on GOG and all other stores?
>No, that would actually benefit gamers. We can't have those racists, sexist, homophobic biggots have their way

RISE UP

Because it outs your favorite developers as pozzed idiots?
>immediate public permaban
just like your favorite website retard era, right?

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Because publicily flaunting your mental illness is not videogames.
Moot banished you to cripple chan and you fags swore you were never coming back. So stay there.

FUCK YEAH, DEVS RISE UP. IT'S OUR TIME TO SHOW THE GAMERS WHY THEY SHOULDN'T MAKE WITH "CREATORS OF WORLDS"!!!

Does anyone know what Private Divisions track record with GoG is? Take 2 is a mixed bag. I will wait a year for GoG. But I literally couldn't give a fuck between Steam EGS or W10 store.

Sooner or later you're going to be saying this for every game dev/pub, and everything else, and you won't have anything to play, watch and read unless you submit.

You can easily avoid that situation by abandoning western devs. After all they've already abandoned their core audiences when they begun casualizing everything in the late 00's.

>talking about video game developers is not video games
retard
>cripple chan
top kek is this you
don't go there btw

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With all the censorship and western pandering on Japanese games lately that's growing at an alarming rate, it won't last for long
You'll have to submit or stick with old media content for the rest of your life.

fpbp
even if not phoneposting, trannies should suicide anyway

>talking about video game developers is not video games
Correct. Talk about their work. Not their tweets, politics or what the had for breaktfast.
>top kek is this you
Why do you read so many reseta posts and the twitter feeds of people you hate? Why don't you just no tbrowse forums that make you mad?
>don't go there btw
You should. Moot banned GG. they still have threads there you can post this crap in.

>everyone trying to get around steam
I mean I hope steam gets whats coming to them, but isn't using a chink operation like epic a bit monkey pawish?

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same here
hopefully the next Tarrant will pay them a visit
subhumans should be exterminated

Doug Lombardi came out and made a statement, and he only does so when shit is on fire.

good thing I have 856 games on steam, majority of which I haven't played. Also console backlogs.
I have enough games to last a life time. I have hobbies other than gaming you know, don't you? Reading, shooting, buyfagging anime tiddy waifus etc.
I don't have to submit to shit.

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yarrrrrrrr

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>This is what Black Isle died for

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holy shit that pic what a bunch of mongoloids

>everyone
Just publishers. Devs are the ones that are the most pissed. Contrary to what Epic making a "stand" for developers.

>people actually giving a fuck about this game.

The trailer was absolute fucking shit. Wouldn't even bother with a pirate unless it improves significantly.

Does anyone else feel like ResetERA is a fucking LARP Board like Land Over Baptist?

>keep buying timed exclusivity
>can't get any good ones
Closest they got was PP and if the developer has no faith in the game itself, why would I.

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Epic store yes!

daily reminder to pirate everything exclusive on epic. don't even buy it when it goes on steam or gog.

games who make a deal with the chink devil should go bankrupt.

For you

It's even better. You can pirate it without hurting the devs. Epic gives people enough money to cover all the sales they lose from switching to Epic, even if nobody bought their game. So you can just download the game knowing that your copy was already paid for by Tencent.

Nigger there's enough game releases that you'd never be able to complete them all in 200 years

is there even anything worth pirating?
they just don't have anything really good yet

>i hope steam gets whats coming to them
What did Steam do exactly?

>game is Epic exclusive
I would have bought it if it was on steam
>game is on steam
I would have bought it if it didn't have Denuvo
>game doesn't have Denuvo
lol trash PC port, it drops to 59 fps on my 750ti good thing I pirated it
>game is on steam, doesn't have Denuvo and designed for PC from the ground up, optimized better than any game before it
lol steamworks DRM is still DRM, I dont rent my games, gonna pirate it
>game is on GoG
Nice, GoG games are the easiest to pirate.

>Talk about their work. Not their tweets, politics or what the had for breaktfast.
Their tweets and politics inevitably bleed into the work. Modern writers have a really hard time separating their story from IRL.

The Fox and the Grapes will be epic/ (pardon the pn) I hope there is a new version of Denuvo that takes the full year to crack as well, just to add extra piss on them.

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND BUY THE GAME INCEL LOSER SEXIST MISOGYNIST RACIST NAZI

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nose ring = red flag

then why are you posting all their twitters, instead of just giving a detailed critique of the game?

valve not steam but yeah they kind of have let it turn to dogshit at any rate and valve has always put on a good guy persona whilst being scum at the end of the day, but still it might honestly be preferable to chink bullshit like tencent owned companies

Id fuck Kate and Megan desu.

he's not me (the guy who posted the twitter cap) and the game isn't out yet you fucking idiot.
also their previous games are pozzed bullshit as well as you can see in the screenshot

I'd slam the asian with the skin tight jeans.

not yet.. really hard being a moral pirate

completely and utterly ruin their store. Lazily sit on their pot of gold. Stop making games.

Jim Sterling told us to hate it so apprently we do now.

The First one on the left with the Pacman thingy is very cute, I would date her.

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Steamworks drm is optional user

>noticeably larger cut of profits
>1/100 amount of users who would conceivably buy your game
Why are these random 3-5 studios releasing their game on ebin game store again

>chubby + choker
You just know she puts out ez

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>narrative designer
and there I was thinking there's nothing more cancerous than game "journalism"

sure. But don't act like Steam turns into a "game rental service" when it is convenient. Plus if you are going DRM free, might as well do GoG.

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reminder the hate bandwagon against the epic store is a coordinated steam kike psy op

>Deadfire flopped so fucking hard that Microsoft could buy out Obsidian
All that gay and cuck shit in Deadfire sure didn't help the game sell.

I bought diablo from gog as my first purchase from them and it made me install a launcher just like every where else

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>the game isn't out yet you fucking idiot.
I too, research games by reading random peoples twitter profiles and searching for things to pin against them.

Obligatory post.

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Like a blizzard launcher? probably was just impossible for them to get running without it. I am sure they tried.

Probably just another crazy west coast Asian who hates white men for Twatter points but fingers herself 24/7 thinking about them

>reee why cant I view people as less than human for their brain chemistry!

Good.


REMINDER

GAMES ARE WHAT MAKES THE STORE.

NOT THE CONSUMER.

how much do you get paid to shill egs

>Obsidian starts diversity hiring and virtue signalling
>end up supporting China
Like pottery.

>Yea Forums claims to love new vegas
>devs of new vegas making their new game
>now they hate it because women work for the company
I wish you faggots never got political, it's so boring trying to see you all hate or love something for reasons that have nothing to do with the game.

jesus fucking christ as an animator this shit makes me sick. How fucking hard is it to have decent animations in your open world rpg? I dont even like witcher 3 that much but that games animation makes this garbage look like a student project

>nobody else gives a fuck about pirating but paid shills on Yea Forums
kindly kill yourself faggot
t. buyfag with too many games I don't play that lies about pirating just to make faggots like you asshurt

i do it for free

Except I am just going to not play games that go EGS exclusive; even ones I actually want to play unlike Metro and Outer worlds.

Stop defending EGS by proxy.

New Vegas is the game, not the developer.

It's like they leaned so hard into the fact that people loved new vegas that they even made their animations new vegas tier, even though those were from a shitty bethesda engine from over a decade ago

see
everyone who says they pirated Metro because it was Steam exclusive. Would have pirated it anyway and said it was because it has Denuvo. I pirated it because I didn't want to pay for it. I will buy The Outer Worlds though, what store is yet to be seen. Cause W10 store has a lot of issues desu.

>ree if you don't let your children suck my pus filled axe wound you're a transphobic problematic POS!!!

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>choosing a hambeast over the literal smokeshow right next to it

what games do you have your eye on, pretty fish?

Only two worthwhile things Obsidian has made were sequels to someone else's stuff, why would I care about any other of their games.

thank your for the clarification, ching chong. I was mistakenly thinking I hated epic because they pay publishers to create exclusives and try to force me into using them rather then providing a good service, or maybe due to the fact that they steal private information without my permission. but nope, it was just a le kikes meme all along. thank you for opening my eyes, I'll go install that trojan right now and enjoy all those games I could have enjoyed on steam or gog if epic weren't such cunts.

they did not market games for people.

Correct the Developer is Obsidian.
They also made Alpha Protocol, KOTOR 2, Neverwinter nights 2, The stick of truth, PoE. All worth checking out. The only game I would skip is Tyranny.

They also presently employ a lot of people from Troika games, the studio who made VTMB, my favourite game of all time. This includes Tim Cain who was also known for the Fallout videogame he created for interplay.
All and all an impressive resume of games. But you know, twitter or whatever.

APOLOGIZE

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They've fucked over Avellone, they can suck my dick.

I can't, you are putting games on Bethsoft store...

>just shut up and buy the game you problematic, sexist assholes!
>who cares if their new games have been shit for the past several years because of their hiring practices!
>the old games before all that were good that means the new ones are despite all evidence to the contrary!

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You have to take anything Avellone says with a grain of salt cause he is a disgruntled Ex employee. And Id take Tim Cain or the other troika guy over him anyway. Regardless, I care more about the games than the people.

>why aren't you using my spy software and hidden bitcoin miner REEEE GIVE ME YOUR PC RESOURCES
...die

>but DUDE New Vegas had gay people in it!!!!

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Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky, who helm the project, are literally the original creators of Fallout you numpty. Tim Cain designed SPECIAL and the systems and wrote the engine, Boyarsky did the graphics design.

I will take you remotely seriously, if you can go more than 5 seconds without derailing into your stupid culture war.
Boyarsky and Cain, joined motherfucking Obsidian together to work on a "dream project" This may not mean something to some GG obsessed zoomer. But I am hype as fuck, and twitter posting will not change that.
Also i liked PoE.

>You have to take anything Avellone says with a grain of salt cause he is a disgruntled Ex employee.

Whom should I trust? A guy responsible for some of the best written RPGs ever or a bunch of morons who fuck-up most of their games and blame publishers for their failures.

>Regardless, I care more about the games than the people.

Obsidian didn't make one good game since New Vegas.

Avellone was treated unfairly due to office politics and the really bad practice of having spouses as HR and leadership, which means there's a big conflict of interest waiting to happen, which leads to drama and office politics. I am thinking that if the Microsoft deal happened before Avellone quit the situation would have been handled much better due to less financial stress etc.

Still, I have faith in the development side of Obsidian, especially Tim Cain.

> A guy responsible for some of the best written RPGs ever

He also did Descent to Undermountain, so clearly his judgment is not always perfect.

Boyarsky also did a lot more than just the graphic design on Fallout 2, as well as the Troika Games

The shorthand name for the epic store is eggs lol

Boyarsky did the entire graphic concept and design and ingame graphics for Fallout 1 together with Jason Anderson. He created the look.

> A guy responsible for some of the best written RPGs ever
you mean Tim Cain?
>or a bunch of morons who fuck-up most of their games and blame publishers for their failures.
Tyranny was their only fuck up though. And they basically just half assed it.
>Obsidian didn't make one good game since New Vegas.
Stick of Truth, P.O.E
Regardless, I am not saying Avellone was in the wrong, or the right. I am simply saying a disgruntled Ex-Employee has the incentive/mindset to say that shit whether he was in the wrong or the right. Though I do think the unproffesional nature of his decision to blab is a bit telling (that is neither here nor there, and he has worked on a lot of good games, and presumably made huge positive contributions to them)

Not much of a "dream project", its so far away from Fallout 1 and 2 its not funny. And the game play so far looks very bad from the webm of it posted in the thread.
>not wanting tranny pozzed bullshit in your games is "GG"
>zoomer
I'm 29 you idiot

they cute

I know, I am just saying he did even more work on Fallout 2. Where he was responsible for the main story arc, a bunch of quests and some gameplay tweaks. And he did similar shit on VTMB as well. He is not JUST the graphic design guy. (though he is obviously gifted at the former.)

>Not much of a "dream project"
Their words not mine.
>its so far away from Fallout 1 and 2 its not funny.
Same could be said about VTMB. My favourite game of all time.
> And the game play so far looks very bad from the webm of it posted in the thread.
you could do the same making a WebM of VTMB. or Alpha Protocol. or fucking Fallout NV.
Also
>a 29 year old goober
That is a bit embarassing lad. Not going to lie.

Thanks god for based Owlcat slaws to BTFOingi them once and forever

why do game companies have so many narrative designers? is it just a scape goat for diversity?

Obsidian just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about PC gaming culture (I'm an expert) but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is on console where you can be successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in PC gaming, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the PC gaming public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase The Outer Worlds on the epic store, nor will they purchase any of Obsidian's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Obsidian has alienated an entire market with this move.

Obsidian, publically apologize and cancel The Outer Worlds on the epic store or you can kiss your business goodbye.

Oh my fuck

This. When EA dishonoured our family and Gaben(PBUH) by leaving Steam we all stopped buying their games for the rest of time. I will never forget watching a shrivelled up Andrew House beg for change on the streets of sydney. Dumb fuck screwed with the wrong crowd.

I am divided on this. on one hand - seeing Steam fags buthurt is glorious. Steam deserves to die. On other hand, Obsidian is shit and deserves to die too.

So its ok as long both suffer

Heh it's not a monopoly if you can buy it on Windows 10 store. Checkmate Steam trannys.

>you could do the same making a WebM of these other games that are over a decade old at this point

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>tranny pozzed bullshit

What does this even mean?

>Steam is a convenient
stopped reading

Holy shit steam drones are true cancer

It wasn't Obsidian that decided this, it was their publishing partner.

OLD BAD NEW GOOD.
Wait shit I think you have the dumb meme backwards user.

leave him alone, he is on a roll.

I'm sorry, I am autistic and I don't deal well with deliberate falsehoods.

It means the test is gonna come back positive

it means you ahve aids from tranny cock
I was saying the old games have an excuse for looking bad. Unlike this brand new one that is only going to go downhill from the footage we saw.

Im a console faggot, so I dont have to worry about the Chinese....yet.

>it means you ahve aids from tranny cock

The fuck does that have to do with TOW?

>you mean Tim Cain?
Certainly not
>Tyranny was their only fuck up though. And they basically just half assed it.
No it wasn't. KoTOR 2 shipped unfinished, Alpha Protocol was a broken mess that was borderline unplayable. Neverwinter Nights 2 is a hot mess and a nightmare to play. The only reason why anyone should play their games is because they were daring and tried something new. Not the case anymore.
>Stick of Truth, P.O.E
Stick of Truth was garbage from the game point of view. Brainded JRPG, even for a JRPG. The only saving grace was having South Park writers make the entire game. And even with that it was mediocre.
PoE is not good. It's the very game that made me hate Obsidian even before they've fucked wit Avellone. Easily one of the most mediocre RPG's out there. Generic, boring, by-the book fantasy adventure. Almost everything about the game was a letdown: locations, quests, combat system, items, character development, plot, worldbuilding etc. The only memorable thing about the entire game were 2 companions written by Avellone, one of which was shit. PoE is literally the anti-thesis of anything Obsidian had done before.
And when I see Outer Worlds I see Pillars of Eternity 2.0: a safe game for everyone to enjoy with boomer "cult" dev attached to make it look like it's something more.

>I was saying the old games have an excuse for looking bad.
They all looked just as bad, even for the time. Thankfully, they were all amazing games, which is really what is more important than if you look like a good dame or not.

YIKES

Oh come on, fallout 4 new vegas doesn't look THAT bad.

stop being a willfully ignorant retard user, its not a good look.

> KoTOR 2 shipped unfinished

Lucasarts cut them from 24 to 18 months devtime midway through.

>Alpha Protocol was a broken mess that was borderline unplayable.

I played through it twice. Yes, the sneak looks funny and there's a few bugs and parts of the gameplay aren't great (looking at you, SMGs) but I had no issues.

>Neverwinter Nights 2 is a hot mess and a nightmare to play.

Ran like trash on PCs of the time (1 gig ram wooo), but improved a LOT with the patches. Storm of Zehir ran really well on my 2009 PC.

How is it being willfully ignorant to not understand what aids from a tranny cock has to do with an upcoming video game? What the fuck.

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"pozzed" is slang for "positived" which is when the test comes back positive for HIV
why would you take this test and be looking for that, you ask? Bug chasers. Here's an example of one.

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An animation sync bug in an unfinished game, oh no.

Since it's not Bethesda handling QA maybe it will actually be fixed for the release!

Is it me or does it look like Fallout 4? Is it on the same engine or something?

>Certainly not
Then why did you describe him?
>No it wasn't. KoTOR 2 shipped unfinished
Still a great game
> Alpha Protocol was a broken mess that was borderline unplayable
Still a great game.
So basically, you hate obsidian because they fired Avellone. But you don't think any of the games he worked on are remotely good?
>And when I see Outer Worlds I see Pillars of Eternity 2.0
I haven't played PoE 2 yet. ANd while that does sound promising, and 2.0 of the game that revived the CRPG is high praise. It does not remotely look like an oldschool CRPG. More like what it is. The Troika band getting back together and working with Obsidian.
also
>A game made by Obsidian Entertainment, to be published by Ubisoft, with writing from Trey Parker and Matt Stone using the South Park IP is Japanese.
Are you actually retarded? or just like pretending to be?

I've heard about bug chasers before, really retarded idiocy. But what does that have to do with the game?

>he thinks its going to change for the better by release
Look at this newfag and laugh

Just narrow field of view and compressed indoor spaces. It's not running on Bethesda's engine.

I don't know if you are new here. But there is a mentally ill subsect of this board, that you really shouldn't bother understanding. The answer will be SJWs, and that they are ruining games or whatever. Followed by like 7000 twitter caps, and some bait posts from their favourite forum.

Oh come on if modders can fix this shit in new vegas how can pro devs not have figured out how to make good animations by now

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>using the fallout scrolls engine
It is beyond being fixed m8

it's an insult, he's accusing both the supporters and the devs of being disgusting trannies as well as bugchasers which tend to be related

I've been on Yea Forums since before Yea Forums was even added. Unlike Bethesda, Obsidian games actually see improvements with time due to patching and further development.

Nice another CPY exclusive

Megan looks cute

he was just saying its pozzed for political feminist/tranny bullshit because of the people they have working on the game
You know, the ones with their "they/them" "genderqueer btw"shit in their profile

lurk more

It isn't using the fallout scrolls engine.

t. ranny

Most professionals are able to separate their personal and private lives. It's a game about pulp outer space adventures and shooting mutant dogs, I very much doubt 21st century feminism will have a big role in it.

>I very much doubt 21st century feminism will have a big role in it.
If you you are dedicated enough, you can pretend anything is SJW propaganda.

And yet

Epic is even shittier, so

So do I buy it from the Windows 10 store or EGS?

how's it feel knowing that every single human being you ever interact with in person immediately knows you're a man, will always be a man, have horrible mental illness today's society left untreated and even thrive, an axe wound where your genitals should be, and just LARPing is a woman?

>it's a straight up Fallout 4 ripoff animations
Fucking obsidian if you gonna do that at least rip from something well made, i dunno take from Destiny or whatever not from fucking Bethesda games
>dat melee animation
Holy shit it's 2007 again.

Damn those women and their not wearing space-burqas and staying in the ingame sci-fi kitchen.

>Then why did you describe him?
I didn't.
>Still a great game
Yeah, because Avellone's writing can make-up for a lot of shit.
>Still a great game.
>So basically, you hate obsidian because they fired Avellone. But you don't think any of the games he worked on are remotely good?
They were good, but they were good because of stellar writing by people who no loner work at Obsidian (not just Avellone, but Ziets for example). PoE made me realize that they no longer have enough writing talent to make-up for the mediocre gameplay.
>I haven't played PoE 2 yet. ANd while that does sound promising, and 2.0 of the game that revived the CRPG is high praise. It does not remotely look like an oldschool CRPG. More like what it is. The Troika band getting back together and working with Obsidian.
The point is that it's another generic unoffensive project for general audience that will be ultimately an unremarkable like Pillars of Eternity. KoTOR2 was a mass, and so was New Vegas to the extent, but they were memorable enough for people to still make threads about those on Yea Forums to this very day. Can't say the same about Pillars of Eternity. And I never called it 2.0 of the game that revived the RPG genre. That would be Original Sin II and the game looks nothing like that.
>Are you actually retarded? or just like pretending to be?
Are you retarded. I've obviously meant the gameplay. Which is very JRPG-like.

All these screenshots and arguments but not one person actually understanding that I just don't want to use EGS because it fucking sucks.
You know. Like Steam did. Except Steam has been in development for over a decade, and now I'm getting screwed over because I don't want to use the shittier client for someone else's benefit.
Fuck off.

>There have been plenty of female writers and creators in the games industry that were just great
name 10 of them

>open world rpg
It's not open world tho, it's a hub based corridor shooter.

because it doesn't suck. it processes payments just fine and the game always launches when I double click.

I hope noone thinks The Outer Worlds is an open world game like fallout. Everyone knows by now right?

>PoE
>general audiences
LOL.
>t, but they were memorable enough for people to still make threads about those on Yea Forums to this very day
Because CRPGs like PoE are very niche.

Double-clicking to launch a game? What is this, 2002?

On steam I only need to click once. Checkmate.

>I very much doubt 21st century feminism will have a big role in it.

ask yourself this if you saw that a bunch of hard core evangelical Christians making a video game or any piece of fiction do you doubt for a second that their game would be riddle with their ideology?

SJW are just as crazy if not worse than them no way this game wont have a bunch of "WOKE" shit in it

Just because the developers said that it was hub based with levels doesn't mean people ever pay attention or listen.

This.

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I was under the impression it was
if it's just combat arenas with a few shops here and there whats the fucking point
granted BETHESDA """RPGs""" have devolved into this, but FNV had cool fucking quests, people to talk to places to be

Hard pass for me, bro

>SJW are just as crazy if not worse than them no way this game wont have a bunch of "WOKE" shit in it

We will see. I didn't see any of it in the trailers, unless you count "fictional future setting has women" as being WOKE.

Hennig
Raymond
Jo Kim
Ross
Kumagi
Swift
Jensen
Williams
Fuck I can only name 8. You god damned got me.

I saw terrible cut price borderlands writing in the very first trailer, which is arguably worse

Play Vampire the Masquerade, Mass Effect or KOTOR 1/2 to get an idea of how a hub-based CRPG can work. It will most likely consist of places like that; you go to your spaceship and through that travel to different areas.

>names only last names so nobody can look the people up
clever girl (male)

I see a lot of people thinking its supposed to be something like fallout. It doesn't seem like a good enough RPG either, kinda seems like rapid fire fallout dungeons at best.

I mean look at this shit, this is like a fallout 4 expansion.

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>missing Dona Bailey and Jane Jensen

One made one of the biggest arcade hits of the 80's and the other gave us Gabriel GODDAMN Knight, son.

> Since it's not Bethesda handling QA maybe it will actually be fixed for the release!
Have you ever played an Obsidian game?

A linear fallout 4 expansion.

>westacuck "games"
I couldn't care less.

>Mass Effect
>KOTOR 1/2
Didn't work in my opinion. KOTOR would have if it wasn't for the DnD combat and bioware writing. KOTOR 2 is Sad! the game

>Vampire the Masquerade
Hopelessly overrated but I enjoyed it for what it was

>compass and not a map

>not knowing Amy Hennig, Jade Raymond, Kim Swift, Jane Jensen and Roberta Williams

You call yourself a gamer?

First person ripoff of Borderlands. All with shit lifted straight from Fallout 4, like you said. Obsidian has fallen and they have fallen far.

My bad, she got overshadowed by Williams in your post, as in real life.

If you have to look them up you don't belong here.
Also someone post the Jade Raymond comic.

It's not remotely Borderlands, and a heavily scripted gameplay sequence dumbed down for game journos that struggle with concepts like "jump" and "cover" is not fully representative (which is a PR strategy I disagree with).

As always, wait for release videos.

I just pirate everything i can't buy on steam.

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it's not an exclusive if it's cracked ha haa

Why did Todd never think to hire the Interplay/Troika guys?
The combat systems, were not Fallout 4's problem. Far from it.

why even bother putting COMBAT into the game if you're not gonna make it fucking neato & over the top, or tactical/tense

I know roberta williams, let me tell ya about Sierra you fucking zoomer.
FUCK Sierra. All their games suck more cocks than your gay mom.

>epic and win store
DOA lol. Might as well sell it on origin too

lol this is so fucking bad

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Some of them look kinda sane. Maybe it won't be so bad?

at least post the full video you mongs:
youtube.com/watch?v=J-2WSJRe6EQ

>KOTOR 2 is Sad! the game
I actually liked that game. Avellone really did show his talents as a writer (I'm perplexed he doesen't write straight up novels) and gave playing the light side weight and meaning. How? By making it a form of rebellion against your master who tried proselytizing you to her philosophy which ran counter to everything the Jedi stood for. Not only that, but it did indeed show a galaxy torn apart by the never ending wars between the Jedi and Sith (and, before them, Spess Mongols).

So when you strove to do good, you both had purpose and meaning in the plot. By striving to make the galaxy a better place, you both prove Avellone/Kreia wrong and give the Jedi meaning in spite of the troublesome parts of SW. That's how you deconstruct something, that's how you breathe life into a dead franchise, not Disney's 'subverting our expectations' line of bullshit. That being said, the game was buggy as shit and half the game was missing.

Which is all on Obsidian.

Are you serious?
>WACKY CRAAAAZZZYYY sense of humor.
>Rick and Morty ripoffs.
>Everything is super colorful.
>There's a evil corporation (literally Borderlands II).
>Numbers show whenever you hit an enemy.
The writing is one the wall.

>co-op
Literally Borderlands I swear to god.

Hot partner action.

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This is a classic case of "It'll be shit" and I don't even have to provide an explanation; it's just that automatic.

at least VOID BASTARDS will be good, right? Right?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these, Epic won again.

>FUCK Sierra. All their games suck more cocks than your gay mom.

That is not true, some are great!

>coop
You retarded mate?

>get to install chinese malware onto my computer
very cool

That's why it's Borderlands on steroids then.

I was kind of looking forward to outer worlds but I was really fucking excited for ancestors. Fuckers.

Ignoring all the blatant epic games shills in this thread you do realize that everybody who worked on Fallout New Vegas and the original fallout's have long since left the company why do you think none of their games have even come close to New Vegas? Why do you think they advertise the fact that they made Fallout New Vegas so fucking much in the outer worlds trailer? Despite everyone who would made New Vegas having left long ago.

they look like they fuck black men and black women

> the original fallout's have long since left the company
What are you talking about Cain is still there and spearheading the project. Boyarsky only came over in like 2016.
Wait did you think Chris Avellone made fallout 1 and 2 for obsidian? are you retarded?
>New Vegas having left long ago.
Only Avellone left.

This screencap is retarded because I fully intended on buying control and metro, now they have forced me to torrent control on the basis of even giving those chi-niggers a fucking cent, fucking chankaros and their defenders need to be fucking cleansed.

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name one sierra game that still holds up/help up back in the day/doesn't make people feel like you feel right now (slitting your throat because you're a freak of nature with a surgically inverted penis)

More like to work on anything at all
Have you watched their Fallout stream? Can you really say these are the same people that made Fallout? Do you even want more games from these people?

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>trying to guilt trip pirates
umm sweetie, I pirate every game that doesn't have multiplayer I want to play and I'm literally dead inside

>Have you watched their Fallout stream?
no, don't give a shit.
>Can you really say these are the same people that made Fallout?
AND VTMB
>Do you even want more games from these people?
Yes, Troika shutting down was the saddest day in PC gaming.

I do not have a surgically inverted penis.

Limiting myself to Sierra developed games only I would say that Gabriel Knight 1 and 2, King's Quest VI and VII, Space Quest 5 and Police Quest 1 remake all hold up well.

>no, don't give a shit.

Then don't get all butthurt when their dream project turns out a medicore mess

>Have you watched their Fallout stream? Can you really say these are the same people that made Fallout?

Since it was Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky, who made Fallout, probably? Them not remembering how to super optimally play a game they made 22 years ago (but instead remembering a lot more pertinent details about the design and development decisions, which makes sense as they *made the game* but didn't necessarily play it recently) doesn't really detract from that. I've replayed Fallout 1 and 2 many times so I am very used to the interface and controls, but that doesn't go for everyone.

>hurrr you should watch two dudes play a videogame on twitch! it will tell you that future game will be bad
Why did they say Trump isn't a demigod or someshit?
I will immediately disregard the opinion of someone who watches others play videogames for entertainment. But just realize, you would probably say all this same bullshit about your favourite games if twitter and twitch existed 20 years ago. You confuse me for someone who wants to be their friend. I don't. I want to play their games, I appreciate their work, not their twitter, or livestreams or whatever the fuck you are droning about. Roman Polanski raped a child. I want him hung from the neck until dead. He still made damn fine movies.

>king's quest conveniently in the center of my screen
I can safely disregard the rest of your post, I'm sure it was very insightful

This stream is actually cool and insightful. Like a 20 years later directors commentary. Thanks anons.

It's ok to pirate, because Epic already bought the game for you ;)

it will also take at least a year or two for obsidian to unfuck their game after release

That's gonna be a big yike from me.

My point is. These people have changed. You can wish for games from them, but I doubt you can expect anything resembling their prime time. Because they got old. And Boyarsky looked supper bitter almost passive aggresive all the time. Also Tim Cain is a fag. I mean common. He may be a cool kind of a fag, but he still is.

I wonder how much Epic is even paying these publishers that's worth ditching the largest digital store and pissing off potential customers. Is it really worth it in the long run?

>These people have changed
Everyone does. I don't care. They are experts at making games, and have an insane tracker record.

It is, Epic are bruteforcing the market and are generous about it

they are experts in making unfinished games
even their last game pillars of eternity the sequel
ended up being unfinished because they still couldnt manage their resources
fallout 2 was also buggy mess when it came out and it still would be if fans didnt fix it for them

I can't imagine it hurts sales that, that much. It will, but not to the scale Yea Forums thinks. You also forget, they get more revenue from individual sales as well. So it is not just the upfront payment, but rather an extra $10 on every sale from a person who buys it from Epic cause it is not on steam. Or if you go the $50 route, you will probably secure some more sales with the price drop and still get $2 more on every sale.

Epic has been great for free games. They're footing the bill so pirating won't hurt the devs, pretty based.

>Also Tim Cain is a fag. I mean common. He may be a cool kind of a fag, but he still is.

I do not care that Tim Cain is a fag. Who he fucks has no bearing on his delicious banana bread recipe or his games.

What's most important to me is that unlike other developers, he's never fucked me.

Remember that Epic is not acting in isolation. Nearly the entire games industry is in agreement that Epic will be the new standard for consumer interface as they find the direct democracy of the modern PC market untenable with the nuveau moral standard of modern market morality(super irony).

For the same reason ccommunists think that higher tax rates mean that the government has more money

neither of them worked on PoE 2. please stop. The adults are talking.

>I'll just pira-
>...never mind.

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>EGS

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>1/100 amount of users who would conceivably buy your game
This is what happens when you exist in an isolated bubble.

Who is backing Epic? Where do they get all their money?

Because Epic is paying for exclusivity in addition to giving a revenue guarantee equaling X amount of sales. For example, 2.5 million USD fee for 12 months of exlusivity and then a guarantee of revenue equaling 500 000 sales during a certain time period (unknown if it's the 12 month period or, say, 24 months); if the game ends up selling 450 000 then Epic pays for 50 000 copies.

Well ok, I mean I got your point
Just don't forget their last games were Wildstar and Diablo 3

What are those games and why should I care about them?

They raised 1.25 billion in investor capital in october and fortnite has been a yearlong printing press that had 500 million in v-bucks revenue on IOS alone.

tianan

Fortnite and China. So like an ultra turd hurricane. This one's got fuel to last.

china

The Outer Worlds is a hub-based first person CRPG from Obsidian, Ancestors is hominid assassin's creed set 2 million years ago. Both look cool.

Both of them sound unappealing to me. Thanks for your answer though.

That's fine, people have different tastes. You might be interested in Generation Zero or Anno 1800, two other upcoming games.

microsoft now owns both obsidian and inxile
both were founded by ex fallout people
I guess wasteland 3 will be epic/ms exclusive too

outer worlds is a special case coz the publisher is take2. they made the deal with epic.
if anything microsoft would make it winstore (or xbox) exclusive. but since they're so happy announcing halo on steam i think they wont be doing that. could be wrong tho, it's microsoft after all.

Will Valve explore legal action?

These games advertised that they're going to be on Steam. These games put up a page on Steam misleading users to think that they're releasing on that platform.

Then somewhere down the line they do a switcheroo and proclaim they're moving to Epic, leaving Steam users to wait for one year. There's nothing wrong if these games proclaim upfront that they're going to be in Epic or be exclusive to Epic.

Instead they're using Steam as an advertising platform since it has a bigger userbase only to scam both Valve and Steam users.

That's scummy as fuck.

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Hi Gabe.

>shows up on E3
>proclaims Starfield and TESVI are Steam and Bethesda Launcher exclusive
>all the negative PR from Fallout 76 is erased
>Todd gets heralded as the savior of PC gaming

they'll probably make some changes soon.
it's a long process tho. you need lawyers resarching what you can and cannot do, writing those rules and so on. you know how it goes.

That's false advertising and using competitor resources to advertise for the competition you goal post moving nigger.

thats assuming valve does anything "soon"

Now you re totally in the right. I feel so sorry for you and your store. Now stop counting your money and make Half Life 3 you fat fuck.

Doesn't Steam charge money upfront though? I mean you have to pay to be put on the store even before the sales, I'm sure that covers it

They have to make changes fast and drastic, Outer Worlds won't be the last game to make a switcheroo. E3 is coming, there's more to come.

Borderlands 3, RDR2 and every game that uses UE will be Epic exclusive.

Steam will be left with Cyberpunk 2077 unless the slavs get bribed as well.

It's almost like there's a shitload of people on Yea Forums that exist to hate literally anything. When did you last see any positivity on this board?

slavs have GOG so there will at least be that option.
but yeah, more games are coming. epic+tencent have so much money at the moment they can fund exclusives for years

>Steam will be left with Cyberpunk 2077
Who would buy a CDPR game from Steam?
Are there actually people that cucked?

Me, I don't want to give more money to my kurwa brothers.

PC gaming really gets better and better, doesn't it?

youtube.com/watch?v=TP8X2kPATwA&index=4&list=PLoAFmgzYW18IFwecCKNvqKxPzN5Cc2mqq
Trailer made me worried. But this saved my optimism.

what exactly from that video saved your optimism?

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>yfw you lived through golden age of gaming
mid 90s till around 2008

i'm a boomer now and my interest in games is fading. i just watch and laugh nowadays.

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wont be long until they announce denuvo and preorder packages lmao
it's going to be a wild ride for obsidian in the next few months

Damn, not a single person said good mornin back to OP. You guys need to mind your manners.

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People argue that a game being literally bought off to stay off a platform is not coming from a place of good will on a morale compass. Not to mention it is coming to a platform that is striving to be as anti-consumer as possible in as few features as possible. On top of that, information in relation to success is hidden away and comes off as a marketing tactic. Publishers are making money off the supposed costs to be on the store. On top of that, while complaining about letting the shit gates open on Steam, Epic has not approached upon any solution to expand its store. The rate of games being added to it is slow, which hey, if you're fine with, then that's great. Finally, its coming to the Windows store despite everything, which is easily considered the worst platform of them all, but not Steam.

i hope rdr2 cyberpunk and bannerlord come out on epic

I hope bannerlord comes out

My answer to China/epic: pirate bay.

you fucking retard it's 3 am here

their assurance that it is tonally more like their old work. And that they made sure not to just do silly humour for the sake of the joke. My main problem with the trailer is it looked like it would just be a "wacky" humour fest.

you fucking retard it's 5 am here

No wonder Deadfire reads so damn dull and uninteresting. In the last stretch I just went on to solo the engwithan dragon just so that I could get it over with

I hope bannerlord comes

see but it's bullshit because I haven't pirated games in years, and I'll keep on buying on gog and steam. It's not about the money, it's about boycotting epic for being cunts.

hell you know what every time I'll pirate something epic exclusive I'll donate the sum to a random animal shelter. I don't mind spending the sum I just don't want it to go to epic

I hope.

yes, it's the new HR

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I normally pirate all my games. But I will make sure to buy some Epic Exclusives just to cancel you out.

It sucks more in almost every category, and also, I'm pretty sure they said they'll only allow reviews if the developer/publisher wants them.
I don't know why exactly I'm expected to be satisfied with less so that the publisher can profit. I could not give less of a shit.

Because they work on many different projects at a time and assign narrative designers (which is a catch-all term for dialogue/lore writer and conceptualist) to specific subsections of those projects because they place great importance on, for example, a single character or companion and that is all a specific narrative designer will work on, while a different one handles lore and world building.

but this is all dumbshit, that probably shouldn't be run by the store you shop at anyway user.
WTF this isnt even true.