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Sakurai has chosen you to improve 1 character of your choice in SSBU.
Which character do you choose?
What buffs would you give?
Try to be as realistic and avoid making a character busted.
I would buff Pac-Man by letting N-Air and B-Throw actually kill around 130ish or 150
Alright. Palutena main and she's fine, leave her be.
Let's buff Isabelle. Make her mine actually function properly, and improve her mobility.
Also possibly give her fishing rod endlag.
Give Sonic a better moveset. I'm too lazy someone else do it for me
*less endlag
We should fix your up-air. I have no idea why it's so garbage right now.
>Palutenafag with buffs to an even worse character
Wow I'm shocked. Palu nerfs soon hopefully.
>nair
no
>back throw
fine
N-air might be a little much. But its stupid how B-air, D-air and Bell are the only reliable kill moves. Extremely predictable and can be reacted to easily.
>Isabelle
>even worse character
That's the point. Isabelle is bad, so I'd like to see her buffed.
No. Worse as in tastes.
She needs buffs, but I dont want redditfags making another shitty video of her.
I'm with you there actually.
Isabelle montages are pretty lame.
I want DDD back throw to kill at some point, having a heavy that can't kill is stupid
Let up-air kill at a decent percent
K. Rool:
-Fair longer hitbox duration, lower landing lag.
-Less lag after Fthrow
-Slightly increase air speed
>3 heavies in a row
F for the fatboys. Born to kill. Too stuffed with end lag to do so offline.
sakurai wouldn't nerf his shitty waifu
How about this, Sonic being the fastest runner gives him the unique ability to run past a grounded opponent like he did in the previous game
Now he has pivot grab/smash options, plus more mix up chances with his specials
Fuck that, fix his fucking Up-B so it actually controls the way it's supposed to
Or make him just a little heavier
Or make his Down Air actually worth using outside of memes
Pick one, honestly, any of them would be a massive boon for him
Corrin side b has less end lag.
I wanna go fast.
Zero Suit has the fastest initial dash in Ultimate though.
Sonic should have that honestly.
They won't change that, it was nerfed hard from Smash 4 because of complaints.
I hope they buff your recovery though.
Your buff sounds fun. But probably wont work in the long run due to his lack of strings because of garbage hitboxes.
I'm loving it because I absolutely hate fighting Sonicfags.
Remove the hurt box on Mewtwo's tail and shadow ball "auto stores" like Samus's beam.
Make Ridley a superheavyweight, or at least heavier than he is now. It's literally all he needs to shoot up a tier.
His recovery wouldn't be "too good for a heavy," Dedede and Charizard have multiple jumps each and K.Rool's is dumb. The "he's a giant dragon so he should be hollow" argument is retarded, there is no reason he should weigh less than Samus. He moves too fast? Can't fight zoners and Bowser has a fast dash too. His moveset isn't even that amazing, it's not like he'd become some unkillable god character that the fucking swordies would have to descend from their thrones in high tier to deal with.
There is literally no argument that he should not be at least 115 or 116. It's fucking ridiculous. He has the biggest fucking hitbox in the game, the least they could do is throw him a goddamn bone and make him heavier.
Something I had to get used to as a Sonicfag is trading my back air for the forward air as Sonic's reliable kill/gimp move, since it seemingly is the only aerial move that got a better hitbox than a completely fucked one between games, like the other user said
Agreed, that hurt box change was beyond stupid.
Not only does Mewtwo have difficulty killing, he has difficulty playing footsie now too.
Ridley desperately needs a weight buff.
His survivability right now is not great, with his lackluster recovery and disadvantage state as well.
Either make his fair more useful for approaching or completely axe the mechanic where you can lose the crown from a bad throw. It'd keep the ability to go past shields, but lose the super armor at the start of the toss in return for just having the crown pop back on his head after he loses it. Or at the very least, get rid of the stupid pick up animation.
I actually think they should make K. Rool's recovery faster.
It's already super punishable, and that hitbox nerf was pretty harsh.
Slightly unrealistic, but a weight increase would also be nice. Nigga's too big to be a light weight.
Personally I think the hitbox buff is enough, Mewtwo is decently high tier otherwise, but if they changed his weight it would only need to be about 5 points higher, max.
Fuck if I know, there's so many to choose from. Charizard and Kirby are garbage, Falcon should return to his former glory, and Ridley's good but he just doesn't feel complete.
>Falcon is arguably a worse Ganondorf now
never thought I'd see the day
Ridley needs a buff, I love the big guy but playing him feels like you're playing with shackles on. Any single of these buffs would do wonders for the guy.
>Increase his weight
Ridley has the largest hitbox in the game and he's lighter than Samus, this is inexcusable. For his size he should be in the super heavy weight league.
>Change his Down Air
It's practically worthless and risky. Either change it to something else or make it like Greninja's.
>Buff his Down B
Either improve the frames of the move or make it a shield breaker.
>Buff his Up B
It has a ridiculous start-up lag and limited directions. Expanding Ridley's Up B to be like Fox's would make his recovery less linear and predictable.
All of these problems hinder Ridley's potential, and I feel like we won't see Ridley do that well in the future until these problems fixed. I hope he gets at least one of these buffs in the future.
The weight is honestly the most important one, a lot of Ridley's problems can be alleviated just by making him heavier
I'd be fine with a predictable recovery and a few shitty moves if I didn't have to be heavy combo food without actually being heavy
This is more of a change which is both a buff and nerf but Cloud's limit should be reworked. Make it so he can keep limit until it's used but it can't be manually charged like in FF7.
Metaknight specials no longer go into free fall
Ganondorf
Give him Bowser's speed
>Give him Bowser's speed
Holy fuck, that would be terrible. Please don't make a fighting game.
Speed up his specials.
Increase ground and aerial speed.
Fiiiiiiine. I'll put more effort into my suggestion. Just remove rockcrocking and I would be happy
>I would buff Pac-Man by letting N-Air and B-Throw actually kill around 130ish or 150
This and give him his old up tilt back and make it faster and stronger. Also, any tips for fighting against ganondorf I literally don't know what to do when fighting him
it doesn't matter it's not going to happen
It's pretty easy. He's easy to Zone and makes great Galaxian combo fodder.
When you put hydrant down. Consider preemptively putting a trampoline in front of the hydrant.
Do not toy with ganons and do not engage unless they're already in a hitstun with a fruit.
Recovery is tricky. Always recover low vs ganon. Use the time in air to charge fruits.
The MU is HEAVILY in Pac's favor. Just dont do any CQC bullshit and have good shielding timing. Also do not spam roll
I'm a hyper aggressive player and I can't break that habit but thanks for the advice
Buff Rest for fuck's sake. Make it a bit harder to land (smaller hitbox) for more knockback. I WANT it to be an all or nothing move
>hyper aggressive
Respect. Pac man strings feel amazing this game. But ganon is not one to do it too out of nothing.
Heavies are braindead lumps of Kill potential. They're meant to take a beating all match and eventually get that 1 lucky garbage F-Smash or Aerial to KO. It's a shitty design and rarely works outside of laggy online.
No. I rather see Wolf, Pikachu, Pichu, Lucina get buffed before I see any of you neckbeard garbage fuckwits get your Bullshit SSBM rest back .
True. Ganondorf was the only one I had a problem with online today so I'll try zoning more against him
GL man.
2 spin dashes and a spring
Thanks user
Wait wrong pic
Just nevermind
I-I don't understand?
Uploaded wrong pic. Just ignore
Make little mac jump 3 times or make the jumps have a longer distance. Also down A can kill
O-ok.
What were you actually going to post user?
Also you can delete the pic or post you know.
>3 jumps
Lol no. Maybe better recovery overrall
>down A can kill
I need to recheck frames but with that pivot tilt tech, I think itd be really busted unless it kills at like 130+
I don’t understand why heavies were even included in the game besides for literal children to think they’re somehow better because they’re harder to kill.
>low mobility
That’s the end all be all fuck up right there, how do you play a fighting game with low mobility. Talk about dogshit character design.
I give Wolf less endlag.
On everything.
>ITT: people who don't understand how small changes impact the overall character's balance due to their lack of overall knowledge of the game
t. Some faggot who thinks game developers don’t make mistakes
i want my ness up air back goddammit
Metaknight's hitboxes are now actually worthwhile
lol doxxed
Captain Falcon
>Very slight increase in hitbox size for all attacks that may need it, like normal jab and up air, maybe down air a bit downwards to hit through platforms consistently
>Raptor boost startup slightly slower, but increase hitstun enough to always get one hit in, can combo into knee Melee-style if the opponent has shit DI
>Faster startup on dash, increase run speed a bit more to go REALLY FAST but not Sonic fast because Sonic has to be the fastest faggot alive
I would also buff Sheik somehow, and Zelda. A lot more characters need buffs in minor ways but I main Falcon so I'm a biased cunt like everyone else. Ultimate is pretty damn well balanced overall, but people are only paying attention to specific characters, which is a shame. Slight buffs can make a huge difference.
ITT: People having fun
>tfw Falcon mains have a dead move(NB)
>tfw they have never complained about it, ever.
Props to you guys. I'd be seething is Pac-Man had a dead B move
>playing Bowser Jr. online
>near 4 mil and still winning because nobody knows what the fuck he does and everyone runs into my shit
I also play Morton just to ensure the maximum amount of tilt when they lose and hear that goofy-ass retard laugh
that being said, they need to make him overall faster, his moves are so fucking laggy sometimes
I don’t play Rosalina as much as a few other characters, but she definitely needs more killing moves or at least one that isn’t really predictable on execution/charge up time.
It's a fucking tragedy, she was top 10 in smash 4 and we go from that to "I have seen literally a single Rosalina online and I gave her the win out of pity"
I don't know if Sakurai just hates whoever's waifu she is but she didn't deserve this dumpstering
It's beautiful seeing nearly all the Top 10s get gutted. And your salt and tears are just icing.
She's in an alright spot, dont bitch. At max you need 1 more reliable kill move. Otherwise, I hope she stays stagnant. The less disgusting waifu fags, the better.
>bowser Jr.
Base-
>koopaling
Disgusting. Go play MK8.
Ironically enough, Bowser Jr. is due for ALOT of buffs, poor bastard is beyond terrible.
let Luigi's zair tether to ledges.
Top post dude here, I mainly play Bowser, Greninja, Ness, Lucas, ROB, Peach, and Rosalina so I am definitely not only playing waifus or top tens. She doesn’t need to be broken, she just needs more options.
Shit, also Inkling because Splatoon. Is fun.
Normals: Replace Ftilt with Tap Dash/Quick Spin. Give it trample so it goes straight through projectiles.
Aerials: Give Kirby's Uair a sweetspot at the center of the arc that has massive base knockback, sends straight upward and kills from the top platform of BF around 120% instead of the current 180%.
Swallow: Let him spit any projectile he can inhale instead of automatically swallowing projectiles for 1% and getting punished during the animation. Also, swallowing any of a character's projectiles allows you to copy their neutral B.
Wii Fit main here - make her volleyball connect with her head more reliably. I've had countless matches where I'm midair and I just fully miss it. Also widen the hitboxes on her forward air, make the two hits of neutral air link together more reliably, and make the lunge in her jab bury more often.
infinite side B's
With that end lag? Sure man.
Holy fuck, where do I start?
>Better max airspeed
>Much higher walk speed
>Ftilt
Frame 5 instead of 7, lips invincible instead of intangible, kills when Uthrow does
>Dtilt
Frame 9 > 7, leaf intangible
>Utilt
Doesn't need changes
>Fsmash
Neck intangible
>Usmash
Active for longer so it stops breaking between hits, wider scoop
>Nair
Frame 8 > 6, multihits last 10 > 14 frames, final hit active 2 > 4 frames
>Fair
Autocancels in a shorthop, no sourspot
>Bair
Endlag 62 > 40 frames
>Uair
No changes, already usable and Plant has plenty of disjointed alternatives
>Dair
Autocancels in a shorthop, higher base knockback with KB scaling lowered to compensate
>Ptooie
High spit now lands right next to Plant
>Poison
Lips intangible, less FAF on uncharged
>Long-Stem Strike
Can be turned earlier, minimum distance higher
>Piranhacopter
Better maneuverability
No.