Demon's souls thread

>Just watch
kys

Than some of its successors? Because it's uncluttered really. Though it's not better than DS1 or BB.

Its not.
Op is a contrarian cuck.

>the moment it came to PC
No, it died when it went multiplat.

>using e-celebs as a form of authoritive validation
No.

Good bait, OP

>No.
nice reddit prose

This. I love DeS but DaS1 and BB are one step above. DaS felt less mission based and you discovered secret areas along the way, it was the game that keeps on giving. I only realized years later that the crystal crabs spawn after tons of humanity and souls are lost, and some red ones exist as well.

Best game of the past generation.

Nice e-celeb cocksucking faggotry.

I'm actually playing this for the first time on emulator at the moment. Every level is so huge, with so many places to explore and items to loot. I saw lots of complaints about grass but I haven't fully run out yet but I found some items that let me regen health pretty fast so maybe my build is helping me. My only complaints are item weight, which I can see why they ditched in later games, and the wonky-ass weapon upgrade tree, which is so unintuitive that it makes me just want to stick with base upgrade paths.

OP here, here you go. Wasn't an importer although I was first acquainted with the game from watching JP people play it.

This game is a pure gem

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>so new he doesn't even know what being a platinum club member is

>so far into the closet he doesn't realise what a tremendous faggot he is

im playing BB on PSNow and Demon Souls on RPCS3 both are pretty fun but im new to the series i have yet to finish one but BB seems to play more fluently than the others

Isn't there a PS4 remake in the works?

Go show off your 3x3 thread and how much you love F-zero GX, wario land 4 and fallout newvegas.

You will have to write in what ways you think it is better.

Yes BB is more fluid and clear-cut with its design, but Demon Souls is much more of an experiment and feels mysterious. You'll need to google a lot of the shit like weapon enhancing. Either way, enjoy.

Go find a set of balls that doesn't belong to someone else you tremendous faggot.

An accurate leaker, Jason Schreier, responded "yes" to a RetardEra post that inquired if there was a DeS remaster in the works. Sounds fucking great to me.

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It's on PC, it's called RPCS3.

You confuse parroting an e-celebs opinion with citing them. Anyone who played the game in it's prime already knew why demon's souls was set apart from the others. Keep being an NPC enslaved to what you perceive is trendy on Yea Forums to fit in with a bunch of actual fucking redditors.

Yeah DS1 and BB are really the pinnacle of these games. DeS was awesome as a first entry, but the other two are just more refined.

Obviously B Team sequels are out of the discussion.

No you faggot I played the game when it came out so I can extrapolate my own opinions and observations from my own experiences. I don't need to cite and tell people to watch some e-celeb video as some form of authoritative validation. But keep parroting your narcissistic circle jerk like the tremendous faggot you are.

>checking through play-asia
>see this game
>intrigued by cover so watch youtube gameplay
>order the multi-language version because why not
>ends up being one of my favorite games of all time

It's never been topped though BB was really great.

youtube.com/watch?v=aY-CEFD8X1Q

would you say BB or DeS is a better first entry to the series?

friendly reminder:
2 > 1 > 3
irrelevant 18fps games:
bb, DeS

While I love DeS more than any other game in the franchise I have to say you're probably better off starting with Dark souls. Bloodborne is almost a completely different game to every other in the series with how they force you to approach combat.

Imagine thinking a half finished game(DaS) is better than the game that made it exist in the first place. How embarrassing...

SOUL

It will probably be soulless because most likely it is going to be done by the same studio behind SotC.

>DaS 2
>being over anything
It's a nice meme game, but nothing more.

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it's a remaster, not a 1:1 remake

>so I can extrapolate my own opinions and observations
You're a vapid relativist. What's makes demon's souls special is an objective reality people have already figured out. Unless you are a literal brainlet who can't differentiate between his personal anecdotes and the experience of the game itself.

I'm not a pseud who feels the need to give his own opinion on all the low hanging fruit he finds. If Op actually wanted an answer to his question, he can watch a well made video. I'm not writing pages of shit on 4channel to get the same points across.

it's obvious you are litterlly just an NPC. It's trendy to sperg out when anyone mentions some "e-celeb" Do you not know how pathetic you are? Trying to self-moderate the board like a wannabe janny? Your more pathetic than actual fucking janitors on 4channel.

watched a streamer recently go from das3 to des and he ate complete shit and had his soul crushed somehow
it was glorious to watch

let me fix that for you
DeS=BB ≥ DaS1 >>> DaS3 >>> P O W E R G A P >>> DaS2

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>le ds2 is shit meme
kys

DeS was fun but definitely not the best...take your goggles off people

Have you guys been playing on Yuvi's server? It's not very popular but i've still gotten some invasions going

twitch.tv/the_happy_hob

HES GONNA FINISH IT GET THE FUCK IN HERE

>keeps calling people an NPC but can't actually express their views without having to mention an e-celeb because they lack the vocabulary and cognitive thought process to contribute to a discussion
Pretty sure the only NPC here is you as a Notorious Penis Consumer.

It isn't

Because the team developing the game went in thinking it was a failed project from the get go and just did whatever the fuck they wanted.

>Sekiro looks to set the bar once again.

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Sounds about right.

I personally still put DeS over BB, other then that however you're spot on.

You realize he's just pretending to be retarded to piss you off, right?

youtube.com/watch?v=C7Xv0mJkHpw&t=631s

This is how you are received into Demon's Souls.It is such a perfect presentation. It may sounds cliché, but I found Demon's Souls while I was venturing outside of Yea Forums for the first time since discovered Yea Forums. Some anons where discussing it and it sparked my curiosity, I was in middle school then. Not to sounds like a faggot, but I would had probably killed myself if I had not discovered Yea Forums and DeS. The people that I spend discussing this gem are the closest thing I would call a friend.

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>Pretty sure the only NPC here is you as a Notorious Penis Consumer.
lol savage

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it's not my favorite but it unironically has the most soul in the series

for a first outing like this they threw a bunch of weirdo systems at the wall and they somehow worked out and felt cohesive

>I'm not a pseud who feels the need to give his own opinion on all the low hanging fruit he finds. If Op actually wanted an answer to his question, he can watch a well made video. I'm not writing pages of shit on 4channel to get the same points across.
Then why are you showing up in the discussion then if you have nothing to add? You really are nothing but an e-celeb trending sheep.

I prefer the way it looks compared to dark souls

When they port BB to pc I might. None of the DaS games were better though.

>keeps calling people an NPC but can't
I'm calling you an NPC because you are actually an NPC. I called you a platinum club member which is the equivalent before hand but I genuinely think you are too new to know what that means. NPC is the newest anathema to midwits such as yourself because it can actually describe things but you are scared to ever use it for fear of being lumped in arbitrarily with idiots who spam it inaccurately.
>they lack the vocabulary and cognitive thought process to contribute to a discussion
>unironically encourages fart sniffers to write essays on 4channel

BB using PSNow is fine if you have good internet

This except a gap between das1 and das3. das3 isn't unforgivable like das1 but it is just a soulless skeleton of 10 year old game

>7-day free trial
How long does BB take to beat?

About 2 hours.

FUCK. this track is pure fucking beauty. Haven't listened to it since 2010.. THANK YOU user

I like banter and he doesn't have reddit prose
> if you have nothing to add?
I answered OPs question. Why do you think when someone asks a question you need to have a discussion when you can just tell them where to find what they want to know.

>smug anime poster agrees with platinum club member
everytime

If you've played past souls games, you'll beat it anywhere between 15-25.
If you're new, it can take 30 or even 40+ hours.

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>How long does BB take to beat?
im not sure ive never played BB or any souls before but this says 35 hours

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You have good taste user

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>I'm calling you an NPC because you are actually an NPC. I called you a platinum club member which is the equivalent before hand but I genuinely think you are too new to know what that means. NPC is the newest anathema to midwits such as yourself because it can actually describe things but you are scared to ever use it for fear of being lumped in arbitrarily with idiots who spam it inaccurately.

And I called you a faggot because you're plainly a tremendous faggot. I laugh that you think calling me a platinum club member is some sort of derogatory term because I don't sit around circle jerking on social media with my e-celeb butt buddies coming up with new terms to feel trend with their facebook memes.

Do the messages still work?

hey now, let's not summon him

tfw this game is actually darker than "dark" souls

>I answered OPs question.
You answered their question by using someone elses words as your own. That's not answering the question but rather passing the buck. You're expressing no real opinion of your own.
>Why do you think when someone asks a question you need to have a discussion when you can just tell them where to find what they want to know.
Yeah why would someone create a thread to discuss things with people. God forbid some sort of rhetoric was exchanged.

servers went down over a year ago

Yeah dude his comeback was better than yours and you can't scrounge up anything better in response.

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damn
is it plausible for it to get new servers emulated on PC eventually?

> it doesn't attempt to be reasonable, or fair.
Can (You) even tell me what that means? Because that sounds fucking retarded. Every game attempts to be reasonable and fair.

It isn't, but faggot hipsters like you like to pretend it is because it was the first in the series. The mechanics are rough, gameplay is unbalanced, garbage tier bosses like Dragon God and Leechmonger, broken world tendency system that could have been great, nexus is literally just 90% wasted empty space. If DS1 was first, you'd say it was the best in the series. Same with BB.

The Maiden in Black

> laugh that you think calling me a platinum club member is some sort of derogatory term because I don't sit around circle jerking on social media with my e-celeb butt buddies coming up with new terms to feel trend with their facebook memes.

>i'm PROUD of being #1 4channer, if I lost my title the only alternative is to go back to posting on facebook! please don't kick me out of the club.

>You're expressing no real opinion of your own
your going in circles I already told you the reason demon's souls is different is an objective fact we've already figured out. You've gone from >not your opinion bro!! to >you can't articulate your opinion!! back yo >not your opinion! when it's not a matter of opinion. I said the gist of why at the end of the post and told him to watch the video for further extrapolation, and your code caused you to sperg out when you saw an e-celeb.

DeS is the hardest out of all of them
It used to be way harder when it first came out and you had to deal with invaders breaking all your armor, stealing all your souls, stealing your stats, and making you lose levels.

My taste. I would say I liked DeS more because it was more novel, but BB is a better game.

Black world tendency making the game harder the more you die is fucking retarded on paper. You are fucking over struggling players and making the game easier for those who are good at it with white tendency. Demon's souls game mechanics were inverted.

>invade an afk guy using adjudicator's shield
back level 1 motherfucker hahahaha, fun times

There's fan servers too bad no one plays it messages and blood stains are still there even the hacked leaderboard thing is still there at the top of the nexus.

>fucking retarded on paper.
only on paper because in practice it made the game even more challenging and enjoyable

DS3 is the best in the series because of how much more user friendly it is. PvP would be great if 2H UGS's weren't broke as fuck.

>all greentext replies because they have nothing better to say
Cool story bro. Maybe one day you'll stop being a tremendous faggot but it seems unlikely.

wait a minute, that girl...

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This game scared the shit out of me as a kid it probably took me over 30 hours of in-game "farming" and "just exploring the lore" before I had the balls to get to adjudicator or flamelurker

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It was impossible to get hit with Soulsucker unless you literally stood still for like 5 seconds.
Also the game shit itself to ranged. It had by far the easiest mage playthough.

You can see the same thing with weapons. Some stuff is just retarded strong and some stuff unusable. They didn't attempt to be reasonable with the balance like in later games. It isn't serendipitously imbalanced because they couldn't forsee how strong or weak certain things would be, they obvious just didn't give a shit they were being unreasonable with demon's souls.

Saint astrea's bossfight is my all time favorite. The game also had a much more straight forward storyline than. Dark souls.

It would have worked either way. One makes the game harder for good players, and the other makes it harder for bad players. The problem is if you invert it, you can make the game a cakewalk.

The level design is god-tier.

>your going in circles I already told you the reason demon's souls is different is an objective fact we've already figured out. You've gone from >not your opinion bro!! to >you can't articulate your opinion!! back yo >not your opinion! when it's not a matter of opinion. I said the gist of why at the end of the post and told him to watch the video for further extrapolation, and your code caused you to sperg out when you saw an e-celeb.
You've said nothing of the sort. All you said was to go watch a video and gave a rather bland generic response with no actual detail whatsoever. If you don't want to actually participate in the discussion then you shouldn't have bothered to reply in the first place.

oh nice are they only for the emulated version or can you play them on PS3 too?

What do you people think about Sekiro? Clearly it isn't souls, but it does retain a similar gameplay formula.

Yeah that's why demon's souls isn't kusoge. it defied common sense game design decisions and put out a great product regardless. it was genuinely innovative because it look at things though a different lens. The later souls games are the antithesis of this, they have a very "designed by committee" feel, even if they are designed well, it's uninspired.

agree with everything here

Because it was before pvp became a focus and everything became "balanced" and invasions became nerfed.
You could do some pretty broken shit but so could everyone else and it was fun because everyone knew that. One of my fondest memories is my first encounter with a scraping spear and he destroyed all my gear before i realized what was happening. I knew at that point it was my job to be the biggest cunt I could be and to ass rape anyone I came across because holy shit is it fun.

This kinda.
DeS was a huge opportunity for him to make the kind of game he always wanted to, so he put a lot of his heart into it, no doubt though Japan studio was the reason the game turned out as solid as it did mechanically.

>missing the point

It's actually only for ps3 some guy on the demon's souls reddit made the server

?
Demons had remarkably balanced weapons with everything being incredibly viable except crossbows, and bottom tier weapon types like dagger still being usable.
In fact, some design choices were elegant, but extremely effective, like two-handing a weapon opened up more combos almost unilaterally. Compare this to Dark Souls 1 where combos are basically random on weapons, and shit like Claymore can infinite 1-handed or 2-handed, but 2-handing most short swords will only give you a 2-hit off a running starter.

never thought I'd say this but based redditor I'm gonna have to check it out

People who like Dark Souls 3 more than DeS and DaS are plain WRONG.

DaS3 feels so barren in terms of characters

Also DaS3 has shitty map designs

>If you don't want to actually participate in the discussion then you shouldn't have bothered to reply in the first place.

running out of shitposts eh? you've been repeating yourself for a while now. Don't even have any stolen quips left. GG easy, hope that janny application goes though.

I perfectly understood the point. Either way would have worked for different reasons.

I think it has the best atmosphere. But the PVP was stupid (grass munching), the magic was broken as well as most of the boss AI, and a lot of quality of life improvements were made in the successors (Jumping, fast climbing ladders, no item burden), and perhaps most importantly in an exploration heavy game, the level design was pretty boring MOST of the time, even if it looked awesome.

well said user

i don't think anyone tries to make a case for DaS3's level design, but its combat is the most fun of the Souls games

Separated worlds, a large variety of enemies, a good difficulty curve, and it didn't overstay its welcome.

>Demons had remarkably balanced weapons
no it fucking didn't retard and we aren't talking about PVP because anything other than an actual invasion is an abomination. You will never see scaling like the meat clever or stacking boosts like the morian blade/clever rat ring or any of the magic in demons souls again. It's plain as day when you just look at dark souls 3.

DeS still handles PVP relationships the best.

1. The invader is at an automatic disadvantage, either having half health or using a ring slot for 75%.

2. Whether to go human or not is a legitimate choice, less health or invade chance. Ephemeral Eye Stones fuck this up a bit but at least they're not farmable until decently late.

3. From didn't make any particular considerations to facilitate cringe "honorable" PVP, which is retarded in a game like this since the vast majority of attack start-ups are within reactable range. The Red Eye Stone is given in NG+ making it feel like a footnote.

It takes the games combat strengths (making you react and adapt to your enemies) and pushes them to the extreme by removing old safeties like roll spam and block, adding the posture attrition system, a Revengence-style parry system, etc. Everyone says it's the biggest departure from the series yet.

The mace is a pretty terrible weapon.
No real reason to use it over anything else.
It was so bad that every other game made it absurdly good in comparison

So you're just proving my point then. Good to know you've conceded.

Ah so this thread is full of Sonysoybois, I see.

You don't seem to understand the point because it's obvious that the inverse would work. It's basic game design, and doesn't have to be poorly implemented so it makes the game too easy like you suggested. The concept of helping struggling players and giving better players a better challenge is common sense, the whole point is demon's souls did the opposite and it turned out to be a unique experience and not just shit.

I know this is a DeS thread but since its active i have a BB question as a first time souls player.

What is the best way to acquire ammo? I'm getting fucked up in Central Yharnam right now but im having a lot of fun

Ah, hello! You don't look Hollow, far from it!
I am Solaire of Astora, an adherent of the Lord of Sunlight.
Now that I am Undead, I have come to this great land, the birthplace of Lord Gwyn, to seek my very own sun!
Do you find that strange? Well, you should!
No need to hide your reaction. I get that look all the time! Hah hah hah!

Muh honorable dual fags ruined the fun. Invaders are supposed to impede your progress and screw you over no matter what. They're not supposed to honorably dual with you.

Can't you buy bullets?

are you talking about demon's souls mace? lolwut. the mace is fine and the point is you can get a blessed mace in 5-1. Demon's souls weapons and magic are all mostly well designed they just don't try to be balanced for fear of things being underpowered or overpowered.

Despite the bitching, Things were still pretty manageable, PC really brought in some awful people to the threads.

Meat Cleaver was a mediocre weapon until higher much NG+ soul level and still wasn't any better in DPS than Hilt, Mirdan, DBS, Kilij, etc.
Morion was a support weapon, and not an actual good weapon.
As for magic or rings, you were talking about WEAPONS retardo.

Ah, hello! You don't look Hollow, far from it!
I am Solaire of Astora, an adherent of the Lord of Sunlight.
Now that I am Undead, I have come to this great land, the birthplace of Lord Gwyn, to seek my very own sun!
Do you find that strange? Well, you should!
No need to hide your reaction. I get that look all the time! Hah hah hah!

you get guaranteed ammo from villagers that use a gun. so just grind them and you'll get a lot

Mace, Knight Sword, and Guillotine Axe are basically interchangeable. They all have the same combo routes and Mace gets a massive bonus to block crush.
Each weapon type had a viable weapon or three.

It's a shame because it was just a part of the community being creative just like demon's souls itself. Rather than just doing the intended way to use the multiplayer they thought outside the box and did a fun gimmick. But now it's filled with autistic tryhards trying to play the game as some sort of PVP action game when it's too shallow and busted to be anything but a fucking gimmick. They genuinely look down on invading the way it's intended unless they are making some faggot min/max youtube video shit.

You don't seem to understand:
Both would have worked for different reasons.

People complained about grass because later on you'll have "infinite" souls so you can buy infinite grass. Only the bad players complained about it though because to them, it made PVP last too long. But invading in DeS was all about griefing and wasting the hosts time so having them heal while you troll them is fine by me. I actually much prefer grass to estus just because it lets invasions take so much longer. Also unless you're dog shit you can out dps grass.

Kino DeS invasion was you being ultimate compared to a scrub and having 99999 grass so there was 0 change of him winning. Stressing him out so much he just commits seppuku by jumping off a cliff in 3-2. Absoultely glorious game.

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You can buy bullets at the fountain in the hunters dream, you can also sometimes get from them from enemies like the guy's with rifles, and you can always do the thing where you hurt yourself for 5 bullets.

This honestly.
I can understand set areas for constant fight club stuff.
But after a certain point people started bitching about people not following the same rules when it is an Invader's actual job to try and screw you over

>Can't you buy bullets?
i keep dying before i can get back to Hunters Dream so i always lose my shit but ive done like 2 rotations and i managed to get 10 bullets pretty quick. Is the method of playing this game kinda like doing rotations and then going back to H.D to buy items/upgrades?

>you hurt yourself for 5 bullets.
whats that?

People who complained about grass should have had a Kunai on their item belt to throw at people who would attempt to eat grass so you could have a chance to poison them and cut the healing power.

Another awesome thing was in 5-2 with 9999 poison resistance, grass, and antidotes whereas the host would have like nothing.

>tfw they die to poison
Best feeling of my life.

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BS and toxic cloud oki.
Killed grass spam every time.

Is DeS the only one where damage types genuinely matter or am I forgetting something about the later games? In 2-1 there's a serious difference between slashing the miners and stabbing then.

You sacrifice some life to give yourself 5 extra bullets.
Either Up or down on the dpad, never really used it much myself

Central yharnam through the gate next to the lamp. There should be a guy in a wheel chair who drops 4 bullets each kill guaranteed. Kill die collect blood kill again repeat you'll be swimming is bullets and bloodechoes.

Press up on the D-pad

It's not rocket science when someone is going to heal, you don't even need projectiles like that you can just run up and combo them.

Even from a single player point of view grass was done pretty well. Early game you'll probably at some point end up with minimal grass meaning the game forces you to get good. Then later when you start learning the ropes you can either level up or buy grass. It was a really good idea, it wasn't perfect but I think it worked well at the time.

Estrus isn't as good imo. More casual, less fun overall.

We will never get a scraping spear again. Stuff like that is just too unfair, they want to make pleasant, challenging experiences, not frustrating ones.

>its been a whole year already
Wtf i still remember sharing my sharp katana with anons here

It's a unique game with a lot of fresh concepts that it's successors failed to capitalize on, rather than improve they've managed to make a dance of taking steps back and forward in numerous areas without ever getting it right again. I feel like open world design was a mistake.

Best levels and best bosses.

this or dark souls 2?

I don't think the later games ever designed enemies like that again.

There was acid cloud in the first dark.
That certainly lead to a lot of anger

>invading low level players
>you know they don't have many consumables
>poison cloud
>acid cloud
>watch them drop all their spaghetti trying to kill you before they run out of grass
>just kite them
>ocassionally soul suck

It's a shame. That's what made Souls so good to me. Dark Souls lighting repeating crossbow and zwei was fun but it wasn't the same as Demons Souls which put much more emphasis on griefing. When you depleted someones grass and broke all of their gear they were actually fucked.

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>I HATE IT BECAUSE IT GOT POPULAR
It's not, but DeS still has the absolute best world, aesthetic, and music compared to any of the successors. Unfortunately, that's not the whole experience, because you're playing a game and not watching a movie.

The atmosphere is only matched by Bloodborne, but it's not a fair comparison since both games go for different themes, but are still somewhat close. Demon's just has that something that makes the world feel very sad and sorrowful. Can't put it into words, just an overall "feel" that is just right.

No, damage types still matter. Slashing skeletons in DS is a fool's errand but a strike weapon will demolish them.
The problem that ALL the games have is you eventually do so much damage that weapon types don't particularly matter anymore.

Dark Souls 1 has a completely different approach to level and scenario design because it vouched for a completely connected world.

Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborne would rather throw hallways of enemies rather than actual level design

Dark Souls 3 is just kind of mediocre

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I too did the same thing.

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The message system was at its highest in Demons Souls too.

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I MISS THE NORTHERN REGALIA BROS

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Oney, is that you?

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Lmao, this game was fucking kino

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Ever beat him without Poison Cloud or leashing?

I sure didn't.

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I think DeS and DS are the ones where the world feels the most melancholic. BB and DS3 worlds for me seems far more violent, like shit is actively getting fucked while in DeS and DS it got fucked a long time ago.

Demons Souls level design was the best because maps like these really helped.

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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOGH!!!!!!!!!!
nope. dude is a beast

>Acid Cloud
>Scraping Spear
>Baby's Nail
I was the ultimate boss of 3-4

The best part was standing right at the entrance to the arena so they had no hope of dodging getting shanked with the baby's nail. Then it's just poking them whenever they attempted to open their inventory to get the plague cure (if they had one)

I think I had over a hundred old monk head collars.

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who?

demons grieving wasn't malicious unlike the low IQ ganking and twinked low level invading of later games. deleveling and breaking all their equipment would actually affect someone playthrough, ganking them with no chance to fight back is just an annoying respawn, and took no skill.

I did.

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only ever scanned this before, feel like this guy was ignoring rydell on purpose

Hob is playing Demon's Souls right now, he's at Maneaters, he's got a 3.5 game streak going boys

savage

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I killed him with homing soul arrow

It isn't.

Yeah it wasn't as interesting in the later games, and it was a lot easier. The MLG builds in Demons Souls also gave you an edge that wasn't seen in the other games I think, like you would overkill people through block and have pretty much infinite HP. I just liked invading in the first game the most.

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Demons Souls and Bloodborne are perfection. Best atmosphere, level design, sense of mystery and wonder, and consistency. Dark Souls 1 turns to shit after O&S and yet everyone eats it up. Its such a shame really.

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Dark Souls was most of the fanbases first game so they like it the most. I dunno why people like BB so much, I guess because I didn't finish it.

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thx for these dumps user

youtu.be/EAIdyK-ngtE

lumping demons souls and bloodborne together is NPC shit.

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y-yeah, that's totally me

It tried to be as original as possible with only light references to King's Field. It did a ton with gameplay mechanics and tried to make sure that everything was fun, and the status conditions were all formidable but not overpowering. The level design was extremely sharp and evocative of several different moods, atmospheres, and types of dread, and every weapon and armor set had a benefit to it. Add in a focus on a true medieval period with terrifying, significant magic instead of the all-too-common high fantasy, and you had something great. With the extremely varied boss themes, it became excellent.

Also, the move sets were more practical and enjoyable than those in Dark Souls 1, and Demon's Souls allowed players to push things as they rolled and climb over small obstacles. The other games haven't even tried to account for player mass and that degree of terrain exploration.

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You could also get dicked on as the invader.

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1-2 is the biggest difficulty spike in the game. Tower knight is crazy for a beginner.

because of your dumb nostalgia, as always

What other games let you kill aborted barbies?

I liked being able to climb more than the ability to jump. I don't understand people who say Demons Souls is more dated when that's basically the only difference. Demons Souls' animations were better too imo especially long sword animations.

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This unironically

Here's your final boss bro

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I miss the DeS memes from when it came out
Can't believe it's been 10 years

I never understood that one, he's pretty easy even with basic gear. I also thought flamelurker and man eaters were easy until I tried other builds, then I understood.

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Nice photoshop, faggot.
That isn't the true final boss, you dumb Switcher faggot

this playable with a dualshock 2 on rpsc3?

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I enjoy how the final encounters of DeS and DaS are both sad old men, but in totally different directions.

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Does the dualshock 2 have clickable sticks? Because you need that to lock on. I play with a ds4.

Would you like to see FROM return to a hub-based game again? Do you think they even would?

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also blueblood sword

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I want fucking King's Field V and Shadow Tower 3.

got one on my desk atm, it definitely feels like it. i'm a pcfag who's only played the souls games on kbm

That's my favorite weapon.

Open world is fine but level design based on only one spawn point and one boss is ideal in my opinion.

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Looking at these make me feel so melancholy it hurts. It feels like a like a lifetime ago.

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Makes you realize how shit Yea Forums has become. I miss OC, the quality dropped so much the past 8 or so years.

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Wow, finally someone with an IQ over 100.

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Every time. The only time I'd hit him with a status condition is if my build normally did that in conjunction with actual fighting.

Well, it was 10 years ago, so assuming you're not older than 30 it WAS at least 33% of a lifetime ago, and that's not counting the first few years where your memory was probably a bit iffy.

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based

I like the lore because there's not much of it

Good times.
You can't those kinds of early fights often nowadays because almost everyone and their mother looks up builds almost immediately

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The DMC V threads feel like a spark of that old Yea Forums
But yeah, everything has changed so much. Both that, and I was still in high school when this all happened, and I guess most people romanticize how simple things were when they were a kid. But I can't help stop feeling sad that stuff like "War has changed" is older than students I teach.

all waifu bullshit clogging up the catalog now

hell i can't even blame them. How many quality games like demon's souls do you even see anymore?

Demons Souls might have been the cause of online guides getting so much better than they were 15 years ago. The wiki inspired a lot of others.

When it came out I can remember how dark it felt playing it, none of us knew what the fuck.

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Decent (you) generator, got me.

I think it's all just brainless memes even there, old DMC OC was better.

One thing that really sucks is that people don't even have youtube channels anymore because you get accused of shilling if you post your own video.

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It's a mix of waifufaggotry, politicsfags trying to bait each other into outrage, and console wars somehow became even more obnoxious.

The occasional BB thread can be comfy at times. Especially the lore ones.

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The waifushit's always been around.
It's just that each new wave of people that join pick up less and less of what can make the website good and only pick up on the worst qualities

Streaming monetization was a mistake. I used to run movie and anime streams for /tg/ and Yea Forums in the early 2010s, but nowadays I wouldn't dream of it because it'd just get accused of shilling.

Isn't like Kilij better for dex builds pvp in Demon Souls?

That stuff existed back then too but Yea Forums was like 10x slower and had less retards, so people weren't addicted to (you)'s and just talked more normally I guess you'd say.

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dunno

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Man I loved invading 1-3. I would run past the host and basically do the level for them (if they let me), then at the triple red knights I'd either gang up on them or help and be the final challenge before Penetrator.

Invading 4-1 or 4-2 and standing on the cliffs.
5-2 in the swamp.
3-2 standing on a narrow bridge.
That's what I liked to do. A real dickweed.

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Forcing poorly stat'd and under-geared noobs to play your little games under threat of killing them and making them lose progress is one of the most under appreciated aspects of this game.

Also a relatively unpopular location to invade was 2-2 becausei t was so huge, you had to have patience. But it could pay off if you kill them right before they reach Flamelurker simply because it usually takes people ages to get there. You could give someone some really bad feels killing them in 2-2.

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It's really not. It's just as unfinished as the other Souls games, the bosses are way simpler, and it's just as easily cheesable. Even backstab abuse in DS1 isn't as cheesy as the Great Club/Cleaver/Giant Bone Smasher moveset and its sheer pancaking power. And spells being more busted than they ever were later except for maybe DS2 Hexes.
It's still a good game, but it's got just as many issues to rag on as the later games.

Or 5-1 helping the trolls.

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>it usually takes people ages to get there
bro

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its not demons souls sucks

if it's their first time there's a lot of exploration.

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I don't think the politics faggotry was nowhere near as bad back then as it is now. Like it seems the worst of it was Ron Paul posting, which seemed more good natured than the actual zealots who turn Yea Forums into another battleground. But who knows, maybe I just didn't notice because I was younger.

It wasn't and I believe that's why Yea Forums has so many more posters now.

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I'm sorry user

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even in 2012 when obama won there was almost no political butthurt shit on Yea Forums

Did anyone post in the early PSN forums? Fexelea is a dumb fat cunt and fuck her beta orbiters.

Isn't there that chart that shows how Yea Forums's population nearly tripled between 2014 and 2016?

the internet has been trash ever since the 2016 election.

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You can chalk much of it up to us growing up and people in general waking up to the world.

Yeah and before that there was a spike, and since then as well.

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can you tell me about the virtues of those games, I'm kinda interested in them but haven't taken the plunge

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>tfw you will never get to go through Latria for the first time ever again

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quite depressing

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RRRRRAAAAAAAAAAGH

PLEASE
HELP ME

if a game looks cool to you just try it but games like that aged really poorly.

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So how do you guys deal with the melancholy feeling, if you feel it? It feels like it's just going to consume me, I just go back and replay games and rewatch movies I associate with that point in my life.

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It’s not
Even if it had a modern 60fps 4K remaster it would suck
PS3 was such a garbage platform and a waste of time. Waste of exclusives.

do new things and enjoy life during the day, and play old vidya during the night

isn't melancholy a good feeling?

people always say dark souls threads were good but for me they weren't as comfy, this is a neat contrast.

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fuckin kek

Why is she so perfect?

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It's like a sadness you feel when you reflect on how good things were, they're over, and you miss it.

I hope it's just a feeling that I only have right now because I've almost got my masters, and I'll finally be moving out and getting on with my life, and I'm just realizing a life stage is almost over. Because I don't know how I'd be able to live with this feeling for the rest of my life. I'll start trying out new vidya though.

>begin speedrunning demon's souls platinum trophy
>farm the pure bladestone in like 30-50 minutes every run
Why did this thing ever have the reputation of being impossible to get? It seems so silly now. Obtaining a single marrowstone chunk from the giant ticks sometimes takes even longer.

Just learn to appreciate what's happened in the past? I like being nostalgic so I don't understand the sadness associated with remembering past feelings.

I'm also lucky because I can rewatch or replay games, I get easily immersed and tend to forget details.

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pure bladestone took me 20 hours to get. i farmed it for 5 hours a day across 4 days

I hate those parts of 5-1 so much. You basically have to inch along pixel by pixel and use the untargeted aiming trick to fire arrows low enough to hit those guys.

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4-1 or did you use the retarded 4-2 soulsuck method?

Dark Souls 2 is better than every souls game in here including Shit Souls (Demon Souls). Don't even (You) me you tasteless niggers.

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4-2 but i dont know what the soul suck method is. I killed that enemy behind the invisible wall

It's been almost 2 years now since you got destroyed, Harris. Let it go.

I hope From makes a good Souls sequel after a long break. Bring back that kind of faggotry, bring back the well expressed lore, and let shields protect your back.

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Yeah, I wouldn't trade anything that happened to me back then for the whole world. May not have been perfect, but it was overall still pleasant, and more importantly they're mine. Like I said, the sadness mostly comes from knowing it's over. I guess how I feel is like how at the end of Stephen King's IT, where the protagonist loses the memories of his childhood, and can only almost remember it fondly. Or the weird realization that the comedy from Mission Hill when I watched it in middle school is starting to hit way too close to home now.

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Souls threads still feel evergreen, and the Travis Strikes Again and DMC V threads have been a genuine resurgence of the better times. People actually enthusiastically discuss the games and series in those threads, and DMC in particular makes good OC.

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Oh you're right, I got mixed up. They're both in 4-2. The following method became popular for farming pure bladestone because supposedly the black phantom version of the katana skeleton had a higher drop chance. It's retarded because it's dubious whether the BP version actually had a higher drop chance for it, no one knew how much higher the drop chance was, and the route for it takes like 3 times longer than farming the one behind the illusory wall.

youtube.com/watch?v=Elxn6i8a4oY

Nier;Automata had that feeling too when it came out two years ago. But all that's really left now is waifufaggotry.

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>how is *lie* still true?
Because of your shitposting.

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not giving a fuck
ds2 did something similar but it was shit on for it

I was mainly talking about OC made for the betterment of your fellow bro. DMC threads have too much shitposting and droning, Nier threads were pretty good though yeah. Nothing like greentext TES threads or Demons Souls help threads though, among other old generals that were top comfy.

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I never got pure bladestone
I also don't think I got all the weapons but whatever

>Souls threads still feel evergreen
Except for the constant barrage of "best souls game" threads that devolve into a mass of autism. It's honestly very tiring.

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finally found a good reply for you

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>The only remaster that I yearn for
>Never, ever coming to ps4 or pc

It hurts.

>When you've played the game so much and seen this so many times that you realize the PSN messages are crops from in the Nexus

I'm hoping that was him checking his mail after the fact, but if not, dang. I was hoping it was as organic as it looked. It's still one of the greatest OC images of the series though.

>Oblivion-like gameplay

All right, that one got me a little.

I think generals are another reason things won't ever be the same. Originally, a board being taken over by the newest vidya was seen as part of the zeitgeist, but now it'd just be seen as shills spamming. And, as much as I dislike generals on principle, they are useful for archived links and such. Another aspect of freedom given up for security I guess.

You can emulate it.

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It had the most fun build in it (Faith). +10 Faith Weapon, + adjudicator's sheild + Regen ring was cash in PvP and PvE

this

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>tfw never beat demon's souls but really enjoyed playing the game

I loved the gameplay, settings and enemies, until I defeated (with difficulties and maybe with help of a ghost, i can't remember) Flamelurker.
Every boss became retarded hard, whiole everyone claimed how easy the game was, I had to start looking up guides to beat the rest of the game but i had already invested my souls into some random average build while i kept reading that weapons and dex was more important and shit, it was really disapointing.

gonna take a shower

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Why is ng+ so hard compared to other games?

>muh bosses
>t. never played the game on pure black world tendency
fuck off

>Freke in Good at all
>Half the quotes aren't from the game

6/10 apply yourself better.

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I won't lie, I kinda miss the hub "level" element of these games. Plus I felt like it had a better and superior art direction to Dark Souls 1.

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The face matches the voice so dang well.

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Shit like this and the guy who hacked to basically be fucking Thor make these games.

Would you prefer to have to play through the game 3 times before it starts to become challenging?

Flamelurker scared me into dropping the game
Also, I got my PS3 in the middle of college and played nothing but tokyo jungle after a couple of years because of how little time i had.

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I think the BP one did have a higher drop chance; one of the unique BP traits was a higher chance to drop the rare stones of their respective worlds. I got my Pure Bladestone from that guy after only three or four tries. I duped that thing and handed out Pure Bladestones to anyone who needed one after that.

Nothing stops you from utility spells. Part of what made DeS great is that you could still use some really good abilities even if your stat distribution wasn't PVP optimized.

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>reminder that your opinion on demon's souls is only valid if you completed it during the launch window. Extra points for importers.

Guess I am one of few on Yea Forums then allowed to have strong opinions on the game.

One of the best games I have ever played. Absolutely amazing and a very unexpected surprise when it came out. It came at the right time to save the shitshow that gaming at that time had become by actually being very similar to classic style games of a bygone era. Game deserves praise on that alone and for starting the even bigger Dark Souls series since if it weren't for DeS it wouldn't exist.

Thanks for your anecdotal evidence. That method is still slower.

Because that's the point.

I always said the lighting was better in Demons Souls 1. Unironically makes it the nicest Souls to look at.

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The next boss was far more terrifying at first.

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demon's souls said fuck you to the player in all the right ways
sure the dragon god sucked dick but it was way better than the bed of chaos

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I hope a game does the dragon god justice one day. His design is cool as fuck.

>let's take Balrog and Diablo
>but make him 100x bigger and more demonic looking

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THIS

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Where's my nigger Biorr at?

did you guys use a guide to play the game?

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The goblin shark double jaw is such a brilliant design.

Everything about Garl Vinland is so poetic and picturesque apart from that ridiculous fucking hammer

Even by fantasy standards that thing is goofy

I mean everyone did for crafting weapons since it's so complicated. A general guide wouldn't help though, I'm pretty sure I did everything blind. I don't recall having a hard time with the game

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>defeat tutorial boss first try ez
>see Dragon God cutscene
>expecting cliche fire breath attack
>he falcon punches your bitch ass out instead
That's when I knew this game was going to be legendary

especially swinging it with one hand

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>all of my characters have the Old Monk hat
>if I ever make a new character its gone forever
Feels bad, man

>defeat tutorial boss first try ez

really?

i took a gander at the wikidot since i was playing on a ps3 at my friends house
once i borrowed his ps3 to finish it though i didn't look anything up, but i did remember how to craft the butchers knife

A proper RPG with Souls everything will be the GOAT. I hope we see it one day.

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Has anyone ever shown old king doran's face? I've seen videos where they remove the helmets of other npcs but not him.

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>unlock freke
>one shot everything
>single weapon removes any challenge
>best of the series

Pure nostalgia. Mkyazaki himself seems to think that the following titles improved upon it a lot. The recent interview on the DeS Remaster idea makes it seem he's mildly ashamed of DeS and his old production.

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Nope, I bought it during launch and played it nonstop for months but I didn't even bother getting all the rings until much later.

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PC release when?

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Anyone who thought that just has really bad readhing comprehension.

It's just journos twisting his words.
Also, you again?

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Yes. The only defensive options given to you in the tutorial are rolling, blocking, and parrying. Obviously I tried blocking first and Vanguard smashed through my shield. After that I knew parrying would be useless and my only option left was rolling.

Is DeS worth playing if you played every Soulsborne game but it?

pretty sure demons souls didn't have trophies until years later

the hallway of walking black knights at the end of dark souls makes a lot more sense now

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It always had trophies

omae wa mou shindeiru

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What irritates me most is how much the later Souls games take from Demon's Souls without understanding it

>fog gates existed because Demon's Souls is about a fog consuming the world
>now they exist just to wall of boss rooms

>the player was a slight light source because they carried a little magic lantern on their hip
>now they just glow because they glow

>souls were used as currency because they were the world's currency and everyone needed them to stay sane
>now they're just currency because the game has "soul" in the name

It's shocking to me that these changes immediately happened in the first sequel and not over time

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how's that platinum going?

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my memory is shit

Demons Soul and Dark Soulless

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Yes, but don't let these nostalgia warriors make your expectations higher than DaS1. It isn't better than BB.

It's not BETTER, but it has a special quality of mystery that none of the other games capture in quite the same way. that's the merit of being a fresh franchise, I guess.

The Bed of Chaos was another Old One

I'm pretty sure it is but you're right about his expectations. The other games are mostly about bosses whereas Demons Souls had the full course.

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You are maybe thinking of MGS4 which didn't have trophies at launch but added them years later

true king alant was easy as fuck and didn't require trial and error
way better considering the fight was mostly for narrative, and came right after a really straightforward bossfight

>An accurate leaker, Jason Schreier

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>>fog gates existed because Demon's Souls is about a fog consuming the world
>>now they exist just to wall of boss rooms
Dark Souls 1 has fog gates not leading to bosses

>Please rate this message.

IIRC the drop chance was worked out, though it might just be on one of the two databases fans made for the series. A lot of other stuff still kept getting updated in 2013 and beyond, such as the summon and invasion level system.

>leaks Fallout 4 two years in advance, among other things
>not accurate

I wanna try Demons Souls out but fuck me it's only on the PS3 and I sold mine 4 years ago

omg wow he predicted Fallout 4 after Fallout 3 omg

Yea Forums shat bricks trying to call that guy and I'll never understand why. He's so predictable.

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is this worth an emulation attempt if I love all the other souls games? shame online is kill

>It's just as unfinished as the other Souls games
not even close, this was back when from had the decency to cut unfinished content instead of leaving dragon asses everywhere

yep

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aight shame a souls game doesn't feel the same without a million messages plastered everywhere

>you will never be rewarded for being a good demon with your own Fool's Idol realdoll
Just fuck my soul up

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Demon's Souls had those too.

you are actually autistic.

Fog gates for the same purpose, and its literally explained in the intro. Without light there is no darkness only a world "shrouded in fog"

The protaganist glows because he is the last "ember" that can rekindle the fire.

Souls still being currency is just a common trope in so many stories of consuming fallen souls for strength.

The original post was implying that

Is she really is innocent as everyone thinks? What's with all the valuables and dead bodies of soldiers all around her?

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Can't wait for Bluepoint to remaster Demons' Souls with ADHD Bloodborne combat and Hollywood lighting.

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It's okay to like DeS but don't be in denial guys. Miyazaki doesn't hate DeS but definitely feels like he doesn't deify it or consider it his best work like you guys do.

As much as I like demon souls I never actually finished it. 5-2 was too brutal for me despite beating ds1 at the time.

Thanks to emulation I noticed that for the first time too.
>valuable treasures and coins
>covered in blood and guts

I dunno why you say she was innocent though it was pretty obvious they weren't.

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Keep telling yourself that.

nah its not, probably why miyazaki himself says his later work was an improvment on what DeS started. But I understand nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

>The protaganist glows because he is the last "ember" that can rekindle the fire.
Dumb, and this is never stated anywhere in the game.

This game looks freaking kino.

I wish I had a ps3

>ps3 era game
>nostalgia

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You guys know Garl was the one who killed those people right?

The thread asked if people THOUGHT there was going to be a DeS Remaster and he just replied ''yes'' and then people took it as gospel that DeS was surely happening. I think Schreier's a fucking faggot but it was less his fault and more desperate journos reading way too much into it.

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>Without light there is no darkness only a world "shrouded in fog"
This is in reference to the age of dragons, dumbass. Long past.

>The protaganist glows because he is the last "ember" that can rekindle the fire
Oh come on now, you're the autistic one here if you think that's the reason. Demon's Souls put a lantern on your character model and even put the item in your inventory. Dark is just doing exactly what every game does, making the player a minor lightsource for the sake of visual clarity.

>Souls still being currency is just a common trope
And yet Demon's gave it a completely legitimate in-universe explanation which was dropped in future games for no good reason.

Yeah but what about the dead babies and incels up top?

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source?

>can't have nostalgia for a 10 year old game

that's what made it so great
you feel like an asshole, but you know there's a reason why you're doing that shit; a reason that you'll never fully know

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Defending their mom/camslut

One thing Demon's Souls has over Dark Souls in every iteration is the animations. The very first thing I noticed about Dark Souls 1 was how the movesets for every weapon had gotten normalized. There was now 1 blunt backstab, and 1 piercing backstab, most weapons shared movesets outside of 1 or 2 attacks in special cases. Lost so much of the flavor...

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Yeah dude, DeS is 9 years old at this point and a lot of people who are commenting on it are running off of memories instead of playing currently.

>there were people who didn't go back to play it more before the servers went down
You guys missed out, shit was hopping.

Alright alright, but what about Selen?

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>age past when there was no fire/light only fog
>fire is almost faded, fog is coming back as there is no darkness without light
>protaginst who is last hope to rekindle the fire glowing is unfathomable
>use giga common trope but add an asterix so it isn't that bad

the absolute gymnastics

The thing that gets me most about DeS compared to the other souls games is how simple and good an idea making poison halve healing is
Why did that never come back?
It was the perfect balance of making poison really significant and scary to deal with without just making it kill you in 30 seconds. DeS is the only game where poison isn't either just completely ignorable or so annoying that you just cure it instantly every time.

As in, actually working 30fps no crashes or graphical glitches emulation?

>animations
In terms of movesets DeS had jack shit desu, the least amount of moveset AND weapon variety.

Dante's Inferno has baby enemies if I remember right.

works for me but I use this build
>rpcs3-v0.0.5-6692-98b715d8_win64
http obk ee /rpcs3/archive/

>Enable Write Color Buffers and GPU Texture Scaling
>Set Resolution Scale to 300%(nice) and 16x AF
>I use OpenGL but Vulkan probably works the same
>Preferred SPU Threads: Auto
>SPU: ASMJIT
>Load liblv3.sprx only
>Additional Settings: Enable thread scheduler only

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Was anyone else really disappointed by Dark Souls at release? It felt like a sluggish remake of demon's souls with terrible weapons and uneven difficulty spikes.

>there are people that don't think long ass invasions where everyone had second chance and swarms of old spice weren't fucking rad
i fucking hate how they made the online, and things in general (probably for the sake of online, which doesn't make sense in a mostly pve game) less broken
more ridiculous = more fun
and god damn, there was some ridiculous shit in demon's souls

is it possible to emulate without constant horrible stuttering yet?

I'll take quality over quantity any day

10 years isn't long enough to develop any subconscious nostalgic feelings.

He's talkinga bout the comparisons you can make. Longsword in DeS for instance shits all over the later iterations.

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Thnx, will fall back to this nostalgia trip if Sekiro turns out shit

I upgraded my CPU last year just to play it again, it's got nothing to do with Nostalgia it's just a good game.

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the glasses are too thick to save you friend

>fog is coming back as there is no darkness without light
Literally the entire game is about how light disappearing will create an age of dark holy shit guy. It's straight up one of the endings of the game.

>protaginst who is last hope to rekindle the fire glowing is unfathomable
It's a fucking metaphor. You are not literally an ember, at least not until 3.
Beside the fact that HAHAHAHAHA THIS DUDE ACTUALLY STILL BELIEVES THE PROPHECY WAS REAL AND NOT PROPAGANDA CREATED BY THE GWYNS AND SERPENTS TO TRICK FACELESS UNDEAD INTO DOING THEIR DIRTY WORK? HE SERIOUSLY BELIEVES THAT "CHOSEN UNDEAD" SHIT? LOOK AT THIS D U D E

>add an asterix so it isn't that bad
The entirety of the game's lore and thematics are built around souls.

She was only there looking for her sister, she had no quarrel with you unless you were evil.

>Poison really significant
Lmao what? This is proof that it's been lomg since you played it since you could ignore DeS poison because it did pathetic damage per tick and you could easily counter it with Adjudicator shield, Regenerator's ring or simply a Blessed weapon. If that failed the game gave you HUNDREDS of grasses to hold simultaneously. I could onky see poison being an issue if you went to Valley of Defilement as your very first area after 1-1. Now plague, that was a different thing and it could fuck you up but again you wanna healt it away if you have the lotuses.

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What a wholesome image macro. Some of the other ones are a little too "over explaining obvious shit" though.

For pure damage yes but the image is referring to an exploit at the time (don't know if it ever got patched) where you could alternate between single slashes and pushes with an off-hand katana to stunlock people infinitely if you did it correctly. Technically it would be better with kilij right hand and katana left hand but not by much and it was funnier to weeb it up with lmao 2kat.

Sekiro will be fun.

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The movesets in DeS were fairly practical and made sense, alot of the padded out movesets in DS are dumb weebshit like spinning around with a halberd.

Not in the slightest. She's literally sitting on a pile of gold and taking the scant precious silverware the denizens of the Valley of Defilement had left. There's a highly suspicious bleeding lump covered in rags behind her, and she forces Garl to sit in the swamp under the bodies. Furthermore, that pile is the only place in the game where you can find dead bodies wearing the Shaman Set, strongly implying that she killed all of the local leadership.

Furthermore, she forced the sick and dying to come to her instead of going to them when she was immune to the swamp, and she made all of the illnesses, viruses, and dangerous animals far more deadly. She apparently did nothing to prevent or mitigate the murderous cult that rose up around her, she projects her petty hatred of God onto the player when she's never met you before, she doesn't actually provide a way to leave (and she might not even know about the Nexial Binding), and what really drove her to such lengths was the realization she was expected to actually do things and help people as a saint.

Growing up, she was an aristocrat who found what was actually an old war relic and got called a saint for it. She got indignant upon learning she was supposed to do something with that status and power, and her ego fell to pieces when she realized what she was up against on her very first mission. Saint Urbain and his followers even unintentionally suggest that Astraea wasn't someone who people were confident in; they keep saying that Garl Vinland, her young follower, would keep her on the right path. Garl was also a rookie and desperately in need of someone to keep him on the straight and narrow.

The most damning evidence that Astraea wasn't actually a good person was that, when her cult needed her most, she instead killed herself out of spite. She could have fought for them or tried to part with her Demon's Soul (it's clearly the least fused with any "host" in the game), but nope.

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She's Garl's sister noob.

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>light is disappearing returning the world to a world shrouded in fog
>a metaphor expressed throught the light of the character
>unironically treating the consumption of souls as an original idea

And? That has nothing to do with the topic of Astraea being evil.

People are really bad at video games, they were made for such people.

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You know Lera? That's odd. She's pretty obscure.

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The game's actual literal events contradict exactly what you just said. Fog is the lack of light or darkness. This isn't even subtext, it's literally what the game tells you. Jesus dude.

She says the herb lady said Astraea was evil...

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CURVED
SWORDS

killij also didn't have the katana running attack, that you could combo into the lmao2kat infinite, and iirc had a generally worse moveset with less range. It's been so long since I did any des pvp though.

>believing the joint timeline meme

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Garl is her bitchboi slave. If she says jump he'll ask how high.

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>des threads were 10 years ago
shit man

I don't even remember why we used to say that

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The animations looked a million times smoother and more natural too. All of the gestures are oozing with personality, and the ripostes and backstabs are wonderfully swift and violent.

false memories
it's a skyrim thing

Really dumb argument. DeS's crystal that eminated light was cool af. One of those "next gen" things.

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Other games are trying to ape it. Only this game has soul.

Right. I'm thinking of "2kat" and whatever we said beside it. Was it "lel"?

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>dark souls 2 'difficult'
It is literally the easiest soulsborne game.

I'm retarded
You can't do the lmao2kat combo with a killij because the killij doesn't have a push, it does the curved sword kick thing instead

>They're not supposed to honorably dual with you.

Unless they have a gank squad, I’ll cut them some slack and have a 1v1. It’s more fun to me that way, at least the majority of the time.

Bloodborne has nice animations as well.

The reason why is because DeS and Bloodborne's animations are all hand-animated from scratch and because of this they look more fluid and natural. Dark Souls' animations were all mo-caped and then cleaned up in post which makes them look robotic and stiff.

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I think dark souls is in the same universe as demon's but I don't know about bloodborne I doubt that.

nah, just lmao

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good post

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Selen was the one genuinely good person there. She would have been the actual worthy heir of the bloodline and rightful owner of the ring she's ironically there to try giving to Garl. She was knowledgeable, mature, and her kind yet resolute voice told a lot about her. It's also fitting that she wielded a proper Faith weapon, though that's a weaker argument considering that Lizaia/Rizaia and Vito/Bito still died. Comparing goodness to the ability to stay alive isn't the most fair comparison, but I feel that in the context, themes, and story of Demon's Souls it's actually a plausible argument. Of course, that again falls apart considering the Miracles are actually the first-generation Soul Arts, even if they mostly focus on healing.

They tried a lot of cool interesting ideas and the bosses were more inspired. Dark souls played it a lot safer and reused a lot of shit from Demons instead of being new. Then each Dark Souls game after just straight up reuses the same shit without even trying to hide it.
Sad that the only great souls games are the Sony exclusive ones, itd be nice if they were on pc.

youtube.com/watch?v=Np5PdpsfINA

Is he, dare I say it, /ourguy/?

When did Dark Souls begin development? Was right after Demon's Souls?

Bloodborne is inside of a painted world.

I liked the nexus in demon souls. The choosing which world to go into and a more linear experience. It also had originality working for it, nothing to compare it to really. I picked it up at GameStop used and the guy told me it was a hard game. I was instantly hooked and as others have said there wasn’t a lot of wiki info or walkthroughs. It was trial and error, building multiple characters just for one build and then the world color (dark or light) I forget how to explain it where certain events would happen for opportunities for certain items. It was a deep game with a lot of little secrets and reasons to back track thrown in.

That being said dark souls 3 is my favorite DS game. It’s so much more polished and balanced. People look back on this one with rose colored glasses, but pvp was insanely broken one shot fest and PvE was really simple with spells that could obliterate bosses.

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Matthony Micktano never uploads but that nigga knows what he's talking about

I'm shocked I haven't seen that in these folders I've been going through. That was like the most posted pic

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She had good intentions but she's 100% delusional and insane at this point. She made a pact with the Demons to end the suffering of those around her, but that transformed everyone into goblin demon things, and made everything worse. But she's been brainwashed into thinking that this is actually good, that the people are better off than before.

There's no arguing with someone like that. She's too far gone and will never see sanity, and has to die.

tl'dr: Was a genuinely nice person with good intentions, made a deal with demons out of naivity, and now is insane.

Hopefully Epic store steals Sony 1st party games too.

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>Yeah but what about the dead babies and incels up top?

They'd dump miscarages into the swamp. It was a dumping ground. When the place turned demonic the aborted babies turned into alive demon things.

Pic related. And yeah without guides the world tendency mechanic is just cruel to anyone but some 200 IQ genius. It's like the deepest mechanic.

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fun fact it's originally a Dwarf Fortress meme because cats used to not have a gender and if you brought 2 to a new fortress they would reproduce out of control

It was "lol 2kat", "2kat lmao", and "lmao 2kat".

It runs like garbage and I've got a pretty decent rig.

I wonder if anyone ever got all the stuff down there. It was actually disturbing on PS3 since the resolution and frame rate was really bad in that area.

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He just reviewed BOTW and recommended Rain World, he's literally back

nice

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4 u

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I know. I hope he maintains his passion. He inspired all these long ass game 'analysis', when ironically he's becoming all the more concise with his writing. He doesn't deserve to fall to obscurity due to the youtube algorithms.

Considering the suspicious, bloody pile covered in cloths behind Astraea, it's possible she was actively gathering the bodies to practice necromancy with. What's worse is that the monsters will attack even the denizens of the Valley of Defilement; if you knock a cultist down there the monstrosities will attack them, and I think I've seen at least one cultist fight back.

The next souls game should have items only true legends can get.

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I have; it takes forever to snipe all of the monsters, but eventually they run out. There are quite a few large souls and Suckerstones in there, and IIRC even a pure Suckerstone (making for two in the Valley of Defilement). There's also either New Moon Grass or Dark Moon Grass down there.

She's being used as a channel for soul to keep the old one alive or something. That's the whole deal. The Demon has a demon Soul, acts as a channel, and in conjunction they get power, cool shit, the fog spreads, and the world around them turns demonic. King Alante and Asteria are the two humans who are demons too, and the theme of the game is how demonic power is not worth it and just makes everything worse. The Demonic power will corrupt you. Alante got the worst and turned into a husk of a creature.

There's no reason to think that you can just walk back from being a Demon. She was totally delusional, and thought her goblin people were beautiful and that she had improved the place. Of course she'd think that with the influence of the Demon soul.

I didn't even know you could kill them. You're a dick...

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good thread

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Go back to /pol/, sweetie.

It's not.

>shit meme bosses
>you can buy 198 full heals and never die
>slow weapons are terrible because no poise
>shit PvP due to healspam and backstabs
>shit coop that brings the game to single digit FPS

All in all, it's nice to see how many things they got right (like the stamina system) but the same for the things they got wrong and how many improvements DS1/2/3 and BB brought to the table. A very interesting game as a museum piece.

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>implying this wasn't in circulation before /pol/ existed

Take it to one of your cancerous eceleb threads, I'm sure there's one up.

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Japan Studio + not corrupted by Bamco Jews.

>souls combat isn't that good
This guy is my guy. Gameplay is good but so many people say the combat is amazing when it could be so much more.

DMC combat isn't that good either.

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Most of current "4channers" weren't even around when /pol/ was created.

It's based on an older racist pic, I think that guy is joking. I hope ha.

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>slow weapons are terrible because no poise
*laughs in cracked beast talisman curse weapon crushing greataxe*

You are a splendid Demon!

>head of Japan Studio was asked what he wanted to do after they finished The Old Hunters DLC
>said he would like Japan Studio to make their own action rpg
>still hasn't happened

what are you even arguing

>thread is full of posters expressing personal familiarity with old DeS memes
>ur all newfags!
Retard.

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Probably won't looking at Sony these days.

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I'm familiar with the premise of the game. What I was saying was that Astraea's Demon Soul was still separate enough from her that she seemingly had to hold it up in her hands. Also, while she's clearly a horrible person, she might not actually be insane. We don't have reason to believe she's become crazy from having the Demon Soul.

Who cares?

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I always interpreted this place as Southern Boletaria, where Ostrava and the Soldier class came from (maybe the Knight class too). IIRC it was said to be more prosperous and advanced than Northern Boletaria, and it would explain why there were great plains in the image.

She's straight up delusional. She acts like you're a bad guy, and seems unable to see how awful the swamp has become and how corrupted the people got. Her mind being corrupted by the Demon Soul seems pretty straight forward. When she sees the swamp she sees beauty, and peace, because she literally can't see it any other way because of the Demon Soul.

hope you guys liked my image dump, htread was not bad

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I don't see why I'm a dick. They're enemies just like any other in the game. The main thing I can see keeping people from exploring that area is the impression that the things infinitely respawn. Demon's Souls is actually rather unique in that nothing in the game infinitely respawns.

She's the one who made the decision to pact with the Old One in the first place. She's likely no more twisted as a person after receiving the Demon Soul as she was before receiving it. That would fit with the arcs of King Allant, the Old Monk, and Sage Freke as well. Also, she still realizes that the swamp is a horrible place in her dialogue; she doesn't think it's prosperous or healthy in the slightest.

it was nice to reminisce

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babby killer

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It was great. Thanks a lot user.

Here's an Imgur gallery someone in these threads was working on. It's a collection of all the fan art, fan guides, and official artbook stuff.

imgur.com/a/eSXdv/layout/grid

The castle in the top-right roughly matches the layout of the first Archstone levels. Can't recall how much of the area outside the castle you can see in cutscenes.

I didn't play it at release but Dark Souls has never felt sluggish to me. Compared to the other games in the series it definitely feels slower, but I've never felt like it was sluggish. Difficulty wise it always kicked my ass, but outside of maybe a couple areas, it never felt unfair.

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Nice.

>Says Yurt

They're not babies anymore. They're even killing their fellow denizens of the area.

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noob...

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Love you DeS bros.

The castle isn't deep enough to be the Boletarian Palace and is too high around the main tower to be the tutorial fortress. Another reason it can't be the tutorial fortress is that it isn't connected to sea or a clearly massive, horizon/spanning lake.

The iconic mountain isn't present either. If it's supposed to be part of the mountain on the left, then the rest of the area doesn't match whatsoever. The Boletarian Palace is extremely deep and is high in the mountains towering over the walled city and one lake, both of which are in a narrow valley/ravine.

If freaky baby things are attacking you, it's natural to attack them back. Probably genuinely saving the lives of the deluded cultists up above, and possibly the babies too if their actual souls are stuck in Astraea's creations.