Maplestory 2

Why did MapleStory 2 flop?

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It flopped? Heck I forgot about it after like November but I didn't think it flopped.

It flopped. Even the maplestory 2 general is dead and gone.

Hey guys try typing Onions

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you know why.

Because getting to end game took a week and grinding was pointless since they released partial content. Why grind when it'll be obsolete after they finish translating the other job adv

Bots were rampant and scared off the casual playerbase

SⲞY

spent godawful forever to translate it only to arrive in a dead MMO market, or at least deader than it was 5 years ago

MMORPGs are done

Because everyone got dabbed on by this guy.

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It flopped because I didn’t even know it was out of beta

BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T LET ME INTO THE DAMN BETA OR WHATEVER IT WAS CALLED

Lvl 1 -> Max took 20 minutes through varied somewhat interesting settings
Base gear-> reasonable gear takes 65 years of slamming your head against RNG while trudging through the same dungeons.
Everyone got to max level, then decided it wasn't worth trying to get the gear, especially since they keep changing what gear is good.

That and botspam.

server problems ran rampant for the first month and half, too

Onions

Because 90% of the content in the game was pointless, and the daily/weekly dungeon limit made 9.9% of it unoptimal.

Therefore the game became a grind of doing the same boring things over and over again non-stop when people got their ass kicked by this guy because they didn't want to waste their precious dungeon runs on anything but whatever progressed them the fastest.

I really miss the sexy chibis though.

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>remove f2p cashshop items
>dont change the games drop rates or the crafting/enchanting rates from their f2p cashshop numbers
>make raids into damage sponges with 200% more health than their Korean counterparts despite showing a video of them with normal health in a official stream a day before
>make it so that every stat in the game except bonus damage is useless
The list goes on, I regret spending the 20 bux for the mark of the beta headband

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because peachy wasn't real to give me paizuri

this but unironically I got hyped for the chaos raids but when they finally came around the boss was way too strong for most party members to live through and the dungeon ran like total shit on my computer with lag everywhere.

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I forget why. every other instance was easy but then this fuck came along.

>you need to be this high DPS to enter this group
>even the most ilvl people can't dps that high because class
>fair fight
>timed

im going to play on west!

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cdev doesnt have fairfight though they were just autistic and boosted his HP a fuckload and reduced the timer because some KMS rejects/the dev team with PERFECT ROLLED ARMOR/WEAPONS said it was too easy at like +13 weapon

The frame drops did it for me. I stopped trying to dodge shit because as soon as the boss telegraphs their attack the game hangs for 2 seconds and you end up out of position anyway.

The general died because two players (primarily Neorussia) from there turned out to be real pedophiles. They were samefagging and arguing that pedophilia is ok and they even encouraged people to report them because "we dindu nuffin, we wont get banned".
Eventually, people reported them and after one week, one of them got permanently banned on Discord because they had posted child porn numerous times and those two pedophiles had a huge autistic meltdown in the general after everyone laughed at them. After that, everyone decided to stop making a new general because Neorussia was constantly samefagging in it and there weren't enough people interested in the game.

tl:dr two pedophiles killed the general after they got exposed and mocked by everyone.

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Too many layers of RNG just to get decent gear for raids

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niggers killed the thread

join vidya guild

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I blame reddit

I blame the economy

retards on west killed the thread

This
I was doing 90000 dps and was getting booted from every party cause the sperg leaders will literally check every single stat on every item u have equipped and judge how good u are based on that alone, also no one liked sins

>devs stream the first raid before it comes out
>they barely know what they're doing and they lose with the boss at 8% health
>raid is advertised as an entry level raid that most players can beat
>raid comes out and it's very clearly overtuned
>only people who can beat it are gold buyers with ridiculously strong and perfectly rolled gear
>gold buyers post screenshots of beating the 10 man raid with 5 or 6 players and time to spare within the first week of the raid, which made matters worse
>community was also extremely toxic and entitled, making lobbies with insane and unrealistic requirements which made it harder for players to get into the raid
>many more reasons including but not limited to: bad game design, RNG, bugs, bad servers and failure to listen to feedback
Moral of the story? Nexon is trash and always will be. The game genuinely had potential but they fucked up too hard.

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Devs listened to the poopsockers who complained that the easy game was easy. And rather than improving on their casual social game they decided to buff most the bosses and keep shit like fairfight in which makes it feel like you're not really progressing.

Speaking of devs, they themselves made it look like raids could be done with minimal prepping. What they didn't include is you needed perfect stat rolls and a pet A PET to do more damage. Which wouldn't be bad, but they made it harder to get pets in the f2p version by removing them from certain content and the economy was shit.

The economy itself ruined too. People sold dungeon/raid carries for crazy priced that only goldbuyers could afford. It was already a bitch to find a party but now you had to find one in the many "buy only" parties. People could hold a monopoly with their guild.

By that time hope was already dwindling, then comes Sky Choretress. It did nothing to improve the game and added more mobile game like chores. Devs kept on streaming the game, but it just showed and showed more that they didn't know how their game worked.

>shit optimization
>bosses were just damage sponges
>dodging felt horrible
>combat was three buttons
>weekly limit on dungeons
>fairfight
>nexon
the sexy chibis were the only good thing about this game

Is it worth trying it out if you are even a bit interested?. Don't have any friend to play it with but still looks unique enough to give it a go.

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>We will never have a multiplayer sexy chibi game that's actually good and not gacha shit
Please kill me.

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yea just dont get sucked into the raid autism play it like a casual chibi mmo

Not worth it at all, just let it die. If you get into it you're gonna regret wasting your time. It's nearly dead too, barely anyone plays it nowadays.

>when they offered not only 1 hat but 2 hats in each closed beta
hatlets will never learn

I hate what the game has become but you can still have fun with it. Just play the game and most importantly, LET YOURSELF BE DISTRACTED.
If you focus hard on trying to progress as fast as possible, you will burn out and hate the game very quickly. Just do things because they look fun, not because it means getting stronger faster.
Of course, there's still issues like the tiny playerbase and such that will hamper your experience, but the game is F2P so you can at least jump in, enjoy it and then leave.

Onions

>they barely know what they're doing and they lose with the boss at 8% health
>Knight never used the defense debuff on said boss
Dude, they knew what they were doing. They don't want to anger the KMS2 players who bitched at the team for having the easier parts of the game easy.

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most brainless game i've ever played

i wish it wasnt so shit
i liked the cute art style and the customisation a lot

no. there is literally not much you can do casually.

it has a ton of collecting shit = waste of time
dungeons = heavily filled with botters
story = it's long winded and it's not good

you literally have to be in a guild or with a group of friends to get any sort of enjoyment out of this since the non-gaming aspect is the only charm to this game such as music, mini games, house building, RP if you're into that shit.

>gooks complain that non-gooks have an easier game despite the gooks having more content
>what you're implying never happened in the original maplestory
I think the problem is Jungsoo Lee.

>pic said he was a fucker a decade ago
Explain futher

Let me rephrase. They were english KMS2 players who were playing the game before GMS2 came out.

join vidya guild na west

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fuck dungsoo

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Game was legitimately boring. I tried so hard to like it considering how much time I spent on MS.

The controls were God awful. Felt clunky and your character never went where you wanted it to. As a melee character having to constantly keep up with bosses and dodge shit, it was a genuinely frustrating experience.

I never felt like I actually accomplished anything even after hitting max level and getting some decent gear. I think that's the biggest thing. MS was a God awful grind but at least it felt like you stood out back in the day if you had a high level character, decent gear, unique gear, etc.

I tried and warned everyone after the beta. Never go on a mmo /vg/ thread and definitely don't join a /vg/ guild on that mmo and without hesitation DO NOT join a /vg/ mmo discord. Almost the entirety of Bully and Yotsuba were faggots, guilds like Vidya wasn't as bad.

>Make a game based around community generated content
>Charge 5 dollars for each template
That's why

I still think it’s fun

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>Yotsuba leader has a meltie on the thread
>Paranoia about Motivated trying to fuck over Yotsuba
>Leaves the game
>Motivated ends up absorbing Yotsuba

bwl

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>bwl

Hello fellow Vinesauce aficionado!

the general never fucking died because of pedos, that shit happened after the game was dead and everyone left
the general died because the game was shit and people decided to make secret discords despite the pastebro and most of the fucking guilds in other servers never making any
although the pastebin user was one of the few cool fags there, and he wasn't even in a fucking guild iirc. damn shame his ID was never found out

east was decent for the time the game was alive surprisingly, minimal drama and when people acted like retards like trying to make a /vg/ discord literally everyone told them to fuck off and they fucked off eventually after being bullied

its not actually ms2 its just using the name

I actually played the game.

And even then, I watched Jerma play it

I was honestly surprised how refreshing of a guild Motivated was, nice to see everyone just kind of getting on playing other shit or still actually enjoying the game. Good company makes for good times and all that.

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I love all(all) my fellow motivated members

being anonymous even in game is what /vg/ was all about anyway, those fags that form cliques were always cancer, pastebro did it right

DOWNLOAD MY GAME

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why is gunny tantrum the best emote in game

>go to /vg/'s catalog because i want to pick up maplestory again
>already knew /msg/ was gone
>this time the sequel's general is gone too
why is this happening i'm legit getting sad

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This gif makes me want to do terrible things to a bobble head.

Are you going Yea Forums?

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because of the Fire Dragon grind. it burned me out so hard i dident wanna touch or look at this shit game ever agian

ms2g was just erp and arguing over which us server was better
you didnt miss out on anything worthwhile

the limits on almost everything pretty much killed it for me. once you hit the limits there's no point of being online

hey guys

It requires a semi good computer.
Free to play games thrive in countries where people use toasters for PC gaming. Do you really expect poor people to pay for a game like this?

>Game has been out a week
>Already people were kicking me just for playing a thief even though I played it pretty optimally

And that's why I stopped, also the MSQ was really lame.

the game is just straight up boring. waiting years to get my hands on it only to quit 2 months in because it's fucking wack and no one communicates. the good old days of maplestory are long gone.

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its me

dances with balrog?

>Only downloaded the game to jack off to shortstack and uninstalled it later

shaggy

It’s a korean MMO.

well you can fuckoff with your thief he was dogshit pre-buff and did dmg like 1/4th of a regular dps

Funyuns

I got to endgame on day 2 and burned through my entire weekly dungeon allotment without getting a single piece of gear that increased my gear score. What a fucking joke of a game.

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everything was time gated, and the game was incredibly simplistic and boring

and retards are still playing to this day

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It wasn't THAT much lower the problem was retards running VC builds.

You there Bort?

boring braindead combat
dodging is broken
grinding the dungeons gets repetitive
limited customization for skills and equipment

The only thing they did well on this game is the outfits

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thief was never that bad, it was literally 90% of the playerbase being shit. the only reason someone would kick a thief instantly is if they know that the thief is a shitter, or if the group is shit
thieves were top DPS when raids came out because they were the few DPS players that knew how to properly play their classes in the first place, since the difference between a shit thief and a good one is like 20% vs 100%, while a normal class would be 60% or 70% if played by a shitter

The CBT days were the best days. Prove me wrong.

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headstart and a little bit after was the best

>instead of improving maplestory, they thought they knew their shit and made a shitty sequel

Why are they so retarded Yea Forums

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Would you whore your avatar out for your guild, Yea Forums?

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I thought Thief's problem was that they don't have enough points for all their skills, not that they had a high skill cap.

>Thinking VC was bad
Sorry user you got fooled by the Maple Elite. All the beaters were throwing that around as false info to make people think it was bad.
In reality VC was extremely strong if you knew how to play it and you were using two spring daggers, which they also said wasn't worth it.

I wanted to but couldn't find a nude mod or nude/lewd outfits that would make it worthwhile

What does that even mean? I would do it for my own pleasure.

thief had 4 major problems, which is why they were shit
>higher skill cap compared to other classes like said before. Shitty thieves are useless, and good thieves were only equal to a decent any other class due to fair fight in dungeons. This flaw was not present in raids, and fair fight has been removed now
>skill points are limited, so their best options weren't available in the beta tests due to 50 cap. They're better at 60, but the class as a whole was designed with the korean 99cap in mind.
>Fair Fight had a significant effect on damage that came from buffs and passives, which make up the majority of a thief's damage. A patch later on changed this, boosting their damage significantly in regular dungeons. Fair fight is removed so this point is meaningless now.
>Thieves scale off of both of their weapons, so while they take half of the upgrade costs in materials, they have twice the RNG involved in getting a weapon to a higher upgrade level. Assassins were the only other class to have this issue, and even then Assassins had a skill tree that only scaled off of one weapon instead of both of them, so Assassins could just spec into that DPS tree while getting their off-hand upgraded. The only benefit that came from having two weapons was an easier time finding weapons with good base lines like % piercing or % boss damage

This, the first 4 man cMoc clear used 2 VC thieves for DPS.

shit lite mmo

Since ms2 failed, will maple royals succeed again?

I liked everything about maplestory 2 except the generic as fuck skill tree. I played a wizard and 80% of the stuff in the skilltree were 1% damage increase passive skills and 1% damage increase active skills. The combat in general was mediocre compared to maplestory and the amount of goldspammers in town was too much for me.

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It's no surprise that the worst board and the worst general for the worst game imaginable is a nest for pedophiles.

No fun allowed was comfy though.

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It means abolishing any semblance of standards in a desperate bid to avert your own extinction!

there was one available though

>looking through job postings yesterday
>find one for nexon
>company has a rating of 2.7
>multiple reviews cite that the office has a bed bug problem

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Everyone truly was cringe
Except for me
I'm based

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Like most mmos, the end game was doo doo butter.

Are there any active west guilds left? I've been kinda lost on what to do ever since I hit 56. Do I just keep doing world bosses and sky fortress stuff?

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play maple 1 now

I have literally never heard of either of those pedofaggots and I was on the general until January ish because I liked the comfy ensemble and fishing meetups while having a crippling sense of obligation to my guild. At worst there were a few attention whores that were ignored by mostly everyone except for their small cliques and some of them even had porn of their characters commissioned
If there is one thing that I liked about him it was that that he didn't put any guildfaggotry in the OP or tolerate any of that shit, to the point where he made a separate pastebin with guilds in it because some retards kept trying to start guild war and server war faggotry by changing the OP whenever a new thread was made. /ms2g/ never deserved him, or guruanon, or any of the drawfags that were part of the early threads for that matter.

At least pastebro kept the booru up. Most of the porn there is shit since anyone can add stuff, but some of the shortstack stuff on there that was made when the game first launched was great

assuming that the game hasn't significantly changed, just keep doing dungeons and raids. the fastest way to level up iirc was world boss spam. it was minigames/music/fishing in the past, but iirc they nerfed those.

Join vidya. we'll help you out.

Motivated on east still has some active people

yeah, cool guild even if i quit playing because mobages geniunely have a better gameplay loop than MS2 does or did, depending on how their PLEASE COME BACK reworks are going

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Clueless staff-devs ignored 99% of the playerbase and their issues, just because the remaining 1% (literal who streamers with 500 viewers at best) and their autistic guilds didn't want the average player to catch up with them.

From what I understand the best setup was combining that poison passive thing with VC? I had worked out that poison passive was the way to play but it was hard to find info. Not that it matters now.

Because the only people that played MS1 were bust out faggots from tumblr/gaia/LJ.

Nowadays those people are busy sucking each other off at woman’s rights rallies.

Is Striker still not out yet even though Korea got Striker and Soul Binder within 3 weeks of eachother?

The minigames were the best part

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It´s not a very fun game.
You pretty much use 1 button to kill everything in the game and build around that one skill to do more damage.

strikers not out because
>A: it fucking sucks and needs fixing
>B: no point releasing a new class when the gearing up system is still garbage

>objectively awful game that everyone hates
>weeb: i think it's fun

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>question 1 is something like your pic, just a cultural thing that likely wasn't adjusted for the global playerbase
>question 5 is asking about Who got Silver in the 1985 Olympics for Figure Skating
>question 10 is literally about if Yoshi is a green dinosaur
it was fun but holy fuck was OX Quiz meme tier with the question order

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The general was alive and well 2 months ago. What happened?

I think the combat was really mind numbing, but I was enjoying the thicc-ish chibi art style and the minigames.

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Yeah OX Quiz is generally the most unpredictable, even with a 50% success rate. The others are super easy to cheese

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i stopped using it around then but
>no new content
>starting to fill up with attention whoring fags
>people starting to quit from burnout/boredom

>or guruanon
that's me!

>Make it to lv 50 after lack luster story
>Fuck Joddy
>Finally get to do endgame content
>BUT WAIT, you have to get your gear score to 2100
>Either Cheese it or pray for drops to get there
>Ok now run this one raid, pray you get a weapon you can use or go 4 times
>Raid without raid weapon takes 10 years
>Congrats you finally got a weapon, but now you need to enchant it
>You need copies of the exact same weapon to even enchant it to relevant numbers
>You are now gated to running only this raid, all other raids will eat up your weekly dungeon uses so anything else is a waste
>Run 1 raid literally 40 times
>Fail enchanting anyway because the % starts at 10 and starts to require 5+ Weapons
>FINALLY get to +15
>Do it again with Chaos raids


Its not fun.

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Their community management was ass and they didn't localize everything as good as they should have.

They are at least trying to improve it after the screw-ups so I still stick to it.

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I left the general at around the same time, but this is just off the top of my head
>Drawfags left ages ago
>all of the model ripping that happened for UGC was prevalent
>Nexon kept putting out Dev Blogs that were empty promises of fixes that would be made
>The major blog that made a bunch of people drop the game was the one that said that they wouldn't start listening to information and implementing changes until fucking March, and that the game wouldn't get new content until Summer
>People were pissed at game mechanics that were garbage such as timegated materials used for RNG upgrades, raid bosses being braindead, general playerbase being toxic and retarded, etc.
>guild drama happens, the Yotsuba leader quits in the worst way possible by making a gigantic sperg rant on the threads
>Pastebin user (made a fuckton of pastebins for the game, it was at 15 or 20 something when I left since there were a ton that were nested within each other) quit the game at the same time as Guru user (datamined the game, made a neat wiki, even had a 3D model coloring tool for UGC)
fucking hell the guru user was rolling on posts to try to quit the game and nuke his website, and so was a drawfag or someone else too, and the paste user rolled for everyone to get out and everyone nuked everything, although i think he undid it for a brief amount of time so that someone else could take over. i'm convinced that those guys only kept playing because they felt obligated to the general

no idea what happened after but the general was a shell of its former self by november

Did it like retroactively kill the Maple story 1 thread too? Or did that go sooner?

>Mother Base is dead
>Coco Island parties are dead
>They aren't coming back

It fucking hurts

Runescape is still alive and better than all other shitty MMOs

maplestory 1 threads are always dead on last I checked, they're mainly on Yea Forums
they did try to merge with the MS2 threads at one point while the general was still fast enough to go through 2-3 threads per day, but it never happened since it would've just resulted in more low effort shitposts.

the maplestory 1 general was full of ms2 shitposts for a while before it launched, and the ms2 general was full of maplestory 1 shitposts when it was dying too. They were just like the games in that they were related in name only. Different pastefags, different guilds and playerbases, etc.

at it's peaks during the beta tests and official launch, ms2g was going through 5 threads per day. it was absolutely nuts.

I think it has to be the most horribly managed MMO I've ever experienced in existence. How do you manage to ruin something so bad that even plebbit, twatter, and the official forums shit on you? How retarded do you have to be to listen to input from players like marksmanbryan and literal gooks who wanted the game more like KMS2 and control GMS2 for profit? I should've took it as a red flag when I saw fags from the bdo and tos generals jump ship onto ms2 only to sink that general too. And not just those guys but literal pedophiles like Neorussia, which is funny the more you say Neorussia is a pedophile the more it'll show up on searches rather than his own "competitive" content. Why did the devs not realize something was fishy when people were selling 30+mil runs to accounts named "hshsjfba65" when it was apparent they knew they were selling to goldbuyers or using alts to launder money? Fairfight? FAIRFIGHT?! Isn't an MMO supposed to make it feel like you are progressing? Now they finally remove it but it's too late. Oh boy let's add sky fortress you like chores don't ya? How about blowing up gem dust and accessories because luck=skill boyo ;)

Fallout 76 and Anthem have nothing on this. The only silver lining is it made me really appreciate single player games more.

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Maplestory 1 threads are mainly Yea Forums nostalgia threads. /msg/ is a small discord clique like every other shitty general.
Peak /ms2g/ was actually great and one of the few good /vg/ generals to exist with high quality game discussion, and even shitposts were all high quality. It fell so fucking far though, and I don't blame the general for falling considering how shit the game was.

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>because they felt obligated to the general
It was more of the sunk cost fallacy. "I've spent hundreds of hours making this website, it'd be a shame to stop and let it fall into disrepair." I just nutted up and decided to wash my hands of it.

>Install
>Play the intro
>Uninstall
It wasn't impressive at all. Part of it is having no patience for badly translated dialog in this day and age.

thinking about it, most of peak maplestory2 was just a comfy shitpost fever dream
that definitely had a part, but it applies to most of the general at that point. I recall reading at least a couple of posts from people that didn't want to quit because the friends that they made were still playing

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Game barely made it a year in KR, and the NA version launched with half the content KR got in that year.

If its not dead yet it will be soon.

>Beta
WOOHOO THIS IS REALLY FUN GUYS I CAN'T WAIT FOR FULL RELEASE
>Release
Hahaha this is great we got our asses handed to us by rog but I think we're getting used to it
>Double dungeon ends Chaos Raids begin soon
Alright, I guess 12+ isn't enough maybe devs had better stats
>Sky Choretress
This is mobile game tier tasks and the boss fights are fun but lag at times. Did I mention I snorted all my gem dust and have to wait next week?
>Infernog
RNG on RNG? Ehhhhhhh
>Jungsoo Lee "prease understandu we'll fix the game... After 3+ months"
Okay where is the nexonlauncher.exe this shit is going

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the game flopped harder than tree of savior did
I still remember how there were retards that didn't understand statistics and claimed that steam losing players meant nothing
>the math was done using the players DPS in the raid showcase, showing that they falsely advertised raids and buffed the fuck out of the boss stats before release, since the shitters in the dev video nearly killed the boss while doing retarded shit like never using the Knight's shield toss which was effectively a 10% damage increase for the entire party
>sky fortress was literally branded as sky choretress within an hour of it coming out
how was infernog anyway? I quit before that came out. It was just legendary accessories that were barely an improvement over epics, right?

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>said months ago that Nexon overbuffing raids to pander to a vocal minority of hardcore players in a cutesy casual anime game was a mistake
>Redditors just spammed GIT GUD
>now the game is dead because Nexon tried to make the game something it was never supposed to be to appeal to rejects who weren't good enough to raid in real MMOs

it wasn't even redditards that were shouting git gud, it was mostly contained to the forums
the reddit just had low effort shitposts and fanart. anyone could see from a mile away that advertising your game as being casual and then listening to the sweaty tryhards that got fake korean SSNs to play the korean version of the game was a bad idea.

I have no idea how in the fuck they thought listening to them was a good idea, or even how they thought keeping the dark descent rewards was a good idea either, since it gave those guys a massive stat upgrade just for doing content that they already knew. Most of those guys were complete shitters in the korean version too if I remember right, and they only got to where they were by completely raping the economy of the global version by selling runs and spreading misinfo like the entire epic pet stat bonus or weapon stats such as piercing vs boss damage, or even actual skill builds and how to play classes when you can look at their streams and see that they aren't even taking their own advice.

>Only have like 3 friends to play with for the raids
>Party finding is ass and flooded with goldseller carries
>"WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DONT HAVE A CLIQUE TO PLAY WITH ON THE SAME TIMES YOU ARE? GIT GUD 12+ IS MORE THAN ENOUGH (plus a level 50 pet and gems)"
>HP is too much and makes it a boring sponge
>"IT'S *buys meso to get purple pet* CALLED *rolls perfect pierce* SKILL"
For such a casual MMO it took more prep and teeth grinding than a regular MMO.

Is it just me or is MMOs in general not that fun to play anymore?

onions onions

after ms2 I tried out FFXIV and it's pretty fun

What was the misinformation that was being spread and who was spreading it exactly?

Stopped playing when I foudn out you're not allowed to skin in-game equips and had to work off disgusting premade models.

She never could made be....

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>what misinformation
Saying shit like pets aren't required and you should focus mostly on accuracy. This caused it so pets were cheap for a small window letting certain people buy them. Also just spreading misinformation about phys/mag piercing, piercing, atk speed, and other stats in general.
>who
Our own personal jew marksmanbryan aka cucksman. He's one of many poopsockers from KMS2 who spread misinformation so prices on items wouldn't jump up until later letting him and his guildies profit the biggest. His guild Lionheart formally known as Rust ruined CBT2 and overall prevented GMs from interacting with players because they got butthurt they didn't kill a raid boss first because a GM helped out another group even though it was a beta and you got no reward. Ironically not even a month later GMs were caught spawning items to themselves or players from guilds like Lionheart.

He's denied this shit too even though there's screencaps and lies about everything. He says he's a rocket engineer of all things but was confirmed that he hasn't even had a regular job until recently.

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>pets in general contribute part of their attack stat to a player's attack stat, resulting in massive damage increases
>skill build misinfo depending on the class
>people neglected piercing as a stat, which let you ignore enemy defenses. at first it was a "This doesn't matter", but then it got misinfo'd to extremes as bad as "1% piercing is better than 7% boss damage"
>everything about gemstones and the "bonus attack" stat
as for who was spreading it, it was generally people who played on the korean server and were rejected from there. a few of them were part of nexon's "Joddy Squad", which was basically a clique of streamers that played maplestory 2 for a week or so and then quit right after but joined the program as an advertisement for their streams.

a lot of shitters were also the source of misinformation though, but that makes sense since the game was marketed as a casual game

you could if you got a fusion anvil, but they were 20 bucks or something ridiculous in the global version. That was another thing that killed the game, the costs for cosmetic and fun shit were all marked up by a stupid margin.

the RNG was shit, but some of the players that complained about the raids were actual mouthbreathers and expected to be done with the game's endgame in a single day.
raid 1 was more than possible but still should not have gotten stealth buffed

I was going through my old ms2 folder and pic related is an old forum screenshot that goes into more detail than I give a shit to talk about. Nexon was at fault for designing the raids to be glorified meat sponges and releasing raids too early, the player base was at fault for being braindead and demanding to be special, and the kms2 rejects are at fault for manipulating Nexon to further buff the raids HP and Defenses, which did nothing but make the simple patterned boss fights turn into even more of a chore than they already were. 80% of the blame lies with Nexon

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Lmao did he stop playing

no he still has rankings for DD last on 3/17

no the general died because the game sucks ass. plenty of the general's guilds died prior to any dramashit. never heard of neorussia when i quit.

user people still play ms2 from /vg/, no one likes the threads because they were constant guild vs guild shitposting by people that didn't even play the game trying to start shit

Tree of Savior gameplay and performance wise actually markedly improved from launch, it gets way too bad a rep.

some of them are ok, just a lot are falling into the HARDCORE XXX GRIND FALL BEHIND ONE DAY AND YOULL BE BLACKLISTED FROM CONTENT FOREVER ALSO WITH RNG BECAUSE FUCK YOU and that just drives people away super fast and ends up being really gay to play
you've legitimately fucked up when a mobage has a better fucking progression system than your mmo

not enough streamers played the game that's the real reason why it failed. even fucking metin2 has more viewers.

That's really the only MMO left that I'm interested in that I haven't tried yet.

enough people left to let that happen though. i remember the air leaving the room as soon as cdev came.

>split the servers up at launch despite there being multiple channels to hold all the potential players
>still keep the servers split when the mass amount of eople are gone and would definitive help with the slow decrease in people
What were they thinking

>Players get recorded macroing, streaming an auction for their account, and overall meso buying bullshit
>They're also players who dumped money on the game itself
>Biggest punishment is 1 month versus a perm ban for the players who didn't spend so much money
This is the same shit with DividebyZero botting in MS1 and only getting a slap on the wrist. I wouldn't even be surprised if the mesoseller were Nexon employees themselves trying to make some extra money.

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All those cuties that'll be forgotten

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considering that there were GMs fired for duping items for guilds like rust, it's been a theory that's existed since a month or so after the game's launch
>not posting the smith

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Onions

I heard at some point they reduced the maximum amount of channels in every server. Fuck that dead game though. They should have made one NA server and then split them into East and West only if the numbers were consistently high enough to justify it.

i't was bearable until they made field boss harder to kill and the only way to make money now is rng

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Multiple servers are part of the monetization strategy for Nexon games. It would have been a better game, but one good server doesn't give any money for server transfers.

Shit is that a child on the right or not? I popped a boner my dudes

The end game content is built around pure selfishness rather than community building. Nobody wants to be slowed down by partying with people with inferior gear, and once a group is strong enough accommodate weaker party members the game instead rewards them for leaving party member slots empty. The only way to convince those people to accept you in their party is to give them money or upgrade materials. And then when you finally get a piece of gear that doesn't have worthless randomized stats you can't upgrade it because you gave all of your money and upgrade gear away just to get this far.

Also, if you play with a controller, just stop. The moment the fps drops (which is often) your inputs are fucked.

It was fun when you first play it but after that it becomes a grindy rng fuckfest.

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You can't make money off of a game without a stable playerbase. And I don't think they ever added server transfers anyways. Also they already had a very solid monetization game with cosmetics, style crates and UGC.

Same reason MS1 dropped off the world, same reason every MMO since WOW has failed. Bossing is shit. Being forced to run bosses for competitive drops and leveling is shit. Queuing for boss raids is shit. Running boss raids while herding a party of random retards is very shit. Losing bosses to randoms being retarded is extra shit. Losing not just your time, but actual resources to losing bosses because randoms are retarded is extreme shit.

Only one MMO has ever survived having party bosses as required content for progress, and its because no one plays it for actual content.

Is that an actual child on the right?? If not, sauce?

>Pedophiles in a game with shortstacks
why

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The audience for this game is teenage chink kids, the most powergamey and shitty community anybody could have.

>retards who spout "git gud" kill a game
like pottery

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there's not even an option to transfer servers, maybe in the future but knowing nexon I kinda doubt they even have the ability to do that

>items take up multiple slots for arbitrary reasons
>sell inventory slots for real money

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I was out as soon as it was shown that it was gonna be 3d. The whole 2d sprite thing was 100% of the charm of the first game for me.

I want to impregnate Nairin

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join vidya guild na west

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