The great debate

1 > 2 > [power gap] > 3

1>3>2

I never said I didn't like 1, you're right, the gameplay is fundamentally the same, I just don't like the tone and writing in 1 as much. Max is too lighthearted and it got kind of weird when it got to the part with the secret underground Bond villain lair, whereas 2 and 3 are more down to earth and gritty which I liked more, personally

1 > 2 > 3
2 is more of the same and it's short as fuck
3 is just mediocre as fuck

>1>3>2

Anyone that holds this opinion is a youngfag whose first console was a 360 and where they first played Max Payne 3, and probably watched their brother play Max Payne 1, so have nostalgia for it but haven't played it or 2.

3>1>2

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>replacing sam lake with whoever the fuck portrayed max was also a bad move
Disagree, Sam Lake had a pretty cocky punchable face. Remodeling Max in 2 made him look more mature, and I could believe the voice coming from him better than a guy who looked liked he was in his mid 20s

I like 1 and 2 for vastly different reasons. first game is soul the game when it comes to production value / general execution whereas 2 is a much more polished game with a somewhat more serious story. 3 was a game I played once and havent thought about since. lukewarm at best.

because in the first game hes supposed to be half crazy and its supposed to come across as weird because of that
the second game is him coming to terms with what happened and is just turning into a burnout
the third game is literally him just as a burnout hiding in brazil

I never played one and two, but three pissed me off too much so its 2 > 1 > 3 because I say so!

The constant cutscenes were just complete bullshit gameplay killers
>walk for 10 seconds
>cutscene
>get to walk to a corridor for literally 5 seconds
>cutscene
go fuck yourself jewstar

2 plays much better than 1, though.
Better visuals and physics
Less crappy nightmare sequences
All that is lackluster is the plot, because the narration is damn good too

1>2>3

>I never played one and two
You really should
I just replayed 1 after like 10 years, it holds up damn well.

pretty much the reason that makes two worse than 1 imo is that enemies are way too easy to kill in two.

More enemies that die faster=smoother gameplay that feels great

Enemies die easily in Hotline Miami too, who cares?

Shame 3 is getting shat on more and more as years go by, but whatever, I really liked it

I see where you're coming from, but for me the charm of the first game was its cheesiness, every character being based on remedy staff and their friends and all that, the conversations goons have between themselves and the fucking tv shows, they toned it all down in mp2, which I can live with, but I really wish they had more graphic novels.
in the first game if you play them all you can follow the plot of the game pretty closely but in 2 they're so sparse that someone that watches them without playing thegame will have no clue what the fuck is happening

1 is great and corny is a good way
2 is deflated by a really bad story. I hate when writers make a sequel but no new characters. it's amatuerish
hard to even give a shit about 3. it's technically fine. even in OP's image, it just feels like it's own series. would barely be remembered without the name brand.

Because Max Payne 2 had an engine capable of doing in game stuff

Also while I like the faces in Max Payne 1, the Mona in 2 is a direct upgrade.

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2 > 1 > 3
I love them all though. Even 3 for all it’s cutscene bullshit still has a lot of fun gameplay moments. 2 is as close to perfection as any game could hope to be.

>2 is deflated by a really bad story

I've noticed the kind of people that don't like 2 are not fans of noir at all - which makes me shocked you don't like 3 because it's the anti-noir modern day shit.

Max Payne 2 is 70's neo-noir to a T.

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it just makes the game so much of a breeze, where at least in 1 you have to spend a bit more time/ammo to kill someone. in 2 they die so damn quick even with basic pistols that it's not as satisfying. 3 had this problem too, but you were extremely limited in weapons you can use at once which is it's own problem.
>Enemies die easily in Hotline Miami too, who cares?
I don't know why you brought this up because it's a totally different style of gameplay.

>the charm of the first game was its cheesiness
Maybe this is why I don't value 1 as much as every other fan of the franchise. 2 was the one I played as a kid and loved it, whereas I didn't get around to playing 1 until many years after, so my perception of the series is skewed more towards 2 and 3 because 1 feels like the odd one out

I did a replay of 2 not too long ago after not playing it years and I'd agree. I still love it.

Well as somebody who played 1 first and never thought it was cheesy (seriously guys, it's not, except that part where Max screams NOOOOOOO), 2 is still superior to 1

>I don't know why you brought this up because it's a totally different style of gameplay.

Max Payne 2 and Hotline Miami are two of my favorite games to replay

Whereas Max Payne 1, I have to plan my day or week around it, because it's quite the long ass game.

what about all the one liners max spews out?

Similar to Philip Marlowe in Long Goodbye, who has a one liner for even the worst situations.

1>2=3
They're all great

I love noir, but 2 isn't anything but a bad sequel. You can't tell a decent story recycling characters that hard. Vlad was the evil bad guy? That's fanfic tier.

what are some must see god tier noir kinos?
im a pleb that only saw fuckin sin city and obviously played the max payne games

Chinatown
The Long Goodbye
The Killing of a Chinese Bookie

And Night Moves if you enjoyed those other three

le samourai

This. Vlad may as well have been a different character. It's not like we got to know him in the first game anyway. I also get autistically angry that Max gets shot in the head and lives. It's rare for that to happen to one person, but for it to happen to two characters in the same narrative is bullshit.

Chinatown is the best detective film and one of the greatest films ever made. The Third Man rightfully a classic but you may feel its age a little.

Other good ones include:
LA Confidential
The Long Goodbye
The Maltese Falcon
Blood Simple
The Big Sleep
Double Indemnity

>but for it to happen to two characters in the same narrative is bullshit.

You've never read Sin City

So many noir plebs ITT

>the Mona in 2 is a direct upgrade.
It's really not. Probably personal preference but this is actually one of my main reasons for prefering 1 over 2. I really dislike Mona's design in 2. All the characters were better in 1 imo.

>citing Frank Miller as the standard for quality writing
try reading real books sometime

MAX! Dearest of all my friends...

Yes, because clearly Max Payne clearly was inspired by quality literature, not 70's noir and comic books (literally the games cutscenes)

Idiot

MP1 being a noir fever dream story with weird Nordic mythology references was on purpose. I really fucking like it. More than 2 and 3

1=>3>2

Meant to quote:

>cites a shit author to defend shit writing
>calls other people idiots
lol ok bro

Frank Miller is only shit to numales who hate how he "treats women" in his stories

Fictional. Women.

And the fact that you don't see how inspired Max Payne 1 and 2 are by Sin City means you're the fucking idiot here, my dude.

I like how you know I'm right so you accuse me of feminism to change the subject

Frank Miller isn't Alan Moore, but he's not shit. Don't know why you're huffing your own farts so much.

And yes, you have to be a SJW because only SJWs have rewritten history recently to make something like The Killing Joke a bad story.

Like I said in , 2 being my first/fondest game coloured my perception of the series different because of it.

Sin City had cool art and garbage writing, which is fine if you enjoy the context, but citing is as an ideal to defend shit videogame writing is deeply stupid

What Sam Lake was inspired by matters because I love Max Payne 1 and 2, sorry if that bothers you, fart huffer.