Do you like it when game Characters are based on real models/people? Pic related, it's Claire from Resident Evil
Do you like it when game Characters are based on real models/people? Pic related, it's Claire from Resident Evil
Jace Wood
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Nolan Wilson
I do.
Joseph Thomas
she has big feet
Luis Brown
I don't mind it. I think there's a time and place for it, and the technology needs more development. I feel like something got lost in translation between Jordan and Claire, but I just can't place it, but can tell by looking at them side by side.
Asher Evans
so does Jill's model. and that's a good thing
Brayden Peterson
yea well we haven't reached 1:1 realistic graphics yet, that much is obvious
Ryan Cox
I do. It gives them a lot more character
Jose Brooks
LEMME SEE THOSE FEET
Leo Jackson
No. The answer should be obvious. That woman is beautiful. BASE Claire off of her and get as close as you can. But don't scan. The scan looks horrible. She looks like a goblin in game.
Blake Brooks
Did they do body scanning or do you think this was hand animated?
Christopher Gonzalez
>Implying Rebecca is based on a cam girl
Levi Lopez
>hand animated
I mean hand-modeled, sorry
Justin Long
all of fallout 4 npcs based on real people.
Logan Powell
the capcom models look terrible
Zachary Bennett
She is the best part of the remake. Claire is wonderful.
Levi Ross
in game she looks pretty cute, and in some of the cutscenes she is cute. In some of the others they scrunched up her facial animations or something and she looks ugly as shit. I just write that off as bad animating though because normally she looks fine to me. Maybe they had to reshoot / outsource specific parts of her cutscenes due to some problem or them being rushed for time or something
Matthew Richardson
The animation in the games are literally done from deformations based on the the actors. It's just the technology is shit. Ada has the same problems Claire does as an example but because of how the fat is distributed on her face it's harder to notice. Same for that doctor chick. This technology is not there yet, and will always look worse than the previous method anyway because the previous method was idealized.
Leo Flores
Hoo BOY.
Thomas Hill
William Green
They keep fucking it up in subtle ways that make the characters look bizarre as hell.
Adrian Torres
No because I think it limits creativity in the longrun.
"Here's my favorite video game character"
"Cool what do they look like"
"oh they look like this obscure actress"
It's better when it's done as an easter-egg or a reference, like i-no and shiina ringo
Evan Ortiz
I'd lick her toes, to be honest with you.
Jonathan Murphy
>the technology isn't there yet
>team bondi had it but had to scale it back because of console limitations
>the process was a lot of work and bankrupted them
Jeremiah Turner
Capcom is consistently getting better at this tech even over the course of two obvious examples (RE2 and DMC5). I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes a staple in their company's game design.
Claire looks a little awkward, most of the other characters in RE2 with obvious scanned facial features look great. DMC5 is even better, with everyone looking absolutely fantastic save for Trish looking a tad bit off.
Team Bondi had massive issues with it specifically because they didn't have the experience and access to the same resources larger studios might have had for this kind of technology. They were literally trying to get individuals' entire facial structures on camera from every conceivable angle, turn that into a single animation, and fill the game with these intensely intricate facial models and animations.
Contrast that to what Capcom and several other developers are doing now. They'll get an incredibly intricate and detailed facial scan of n actor, properly set it up to be animated, and then just do run of the mill facial mocap with touch up. Very different process with very different ends, and it gives them more flexibility with talent.
Landon Johnson
yeah but I don't like how run of the mill facial mocap looks with touch up.
Though I have to say, as someone who doesn't play any AAA games and hasn't been keeping up, I was pretty impressed with spider man. Is that about average for face-caps these days? It's certainly an improvement over arkham knight
Easton Collins
Disgusting
Nathaniel Turner
I think it looks great, but it's not something that I care much about.
Joshua Cox
Reminds me of my cousin. What a looker she was. Then she got married and gained weight.
Levi Taylor
Then how come the male characters never seem to have these problems? And I don't remember Lady ever suddenly looking significantly worse than her normal self mid-cutscene. Trish never looks good, they made her nose look like a raindrop for some reason. Say what you will about Claire but at least she looks like she has a natural face and not like someone who had a botched nosejob
Gabriel Flores
average for AAA titles from what I've seen of it
games with a huge focus on either presentation or cinematic storytelling will typically have better facial capture, it's getting to a really impressive point in the games that can actually afford it
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Carson Cooper
Every female in DMC5 looked trash and off. I don't know what you are smoking. Dante and Vergil also looked off.
Adam Mitchell
footfagging is a disease
Adam Roberts
They do. Leon for example has plenty of times his face looks fucked, but I care a lot less because I don't give a shit what dudes look like.
Adrian Wood
a wonderful disease
Connor Young
Let's not pretend Rebecca doesn't like to show off in front of a camera
Austin Jenkins
Nico is cute and perfect, Lady is attractive even with her model's asymmetrical nose and sharper jawline, and Trish has kind of a kike nose and a chin dimple but that's it, and those are actual facial imperfections in the models they used rather than anything wrong with the in-game models themselves
I actually think that's a pretty interesting angle for them to take with characters in games, though I think Capcom is eventually going to be comfortable enough with the technology to start altering the output from the facial scanning process but it's probably a really daunting task and kind of disrespectful to the capture models themselves imo, but that's another issue
Papa Dante and Vergil both look fantastic from my point of view, I don't even know what you'd be seeing in them to think they look off
Alexander Garcia
That's a mod. Is it based on the mayor's daughter model?
Elijah Brown
I've played the game a lot and I can't really think of any times I noticed his face looking fucked, not like with Claire in some cutscenes. Actually maybe it looks a bit weird when he really grits his teeth in pain, but that's a pretty specific expression
Cameron Richardson
No. It always ends up as uncanny valley cringe movie shit
Levi Barnes
Goblin on the left
Goblin on the right
Yikes
Cameron Lewis
>But that's a pretty specific expression
That looks weird because the animation deforms poorly, and looks fine when real people do it because they don't deform poorly in reality.
Josiah Diaz
Really is zero point in discussion if you think the character models for people like Nico or Lady look good. You have shit standards and probably were calling shit like Socom 2 photorealistic.
Cooper Ward
I'd never hear anyone say that before RE2 and DMC5. There are lots of other games that have been doing this shit for a long time. Weren't all the GTA5 characters scanned from real actor's faces? And Max Payne's face in MP3?
The characters in Until Dawn were straight up celebrities in model form and they looked fine. The only thing that ever looked off was the teeth, they looked unnatural. Teeth also looked bad in RE2
Connor Cruz
Gavin Gonzalez
No, still uncanny valley. I'd rather them just design the faces to fit the setting.
Anthony Reed
I can't wait to rescan Jill!
Caleb Richardson
There are seams where you can see the different sections of the model body on the nude mod when she gets wet or bloody. You can see which parts were added in and which parts the modder probably was able to import from the official models where she shows skin. The funny thing is the default skin on her arms (that everyone likes her classic costume so much for) looks like it has much lower quality textures than the skin on any of the custom-mesh parts from the nude mod (which uses the default arms and middle-legs). Also Katherine's feet are different, so Claire's are by the mod author too. Dude is very talented
Jose Sullivan
WHY is there no infinite shotgun in RE2 remake?
Jeremiah James
there is on PC
Alexander Phillips
I don't prefer it but it's neat, yeah.
Joshua Miller
Neat
Joshua Flores
>no one post Stephanie Ste FINE nie "the juice" Joosten yet
I she already forgotten?
ME, RE2 and DETROIT did really good jobs with this tech yeah I like it, but it's kinda weird because you look at the actor and all you can see is character and vice versa. It also kinda hurts cosplay in a way because no one will look more Claire than Jordan.
Angel White
She's a botoxed granny now. I doubt she will do more than voicework. I'm games now
Hudson Lopez
I agree with you that the facial deformation is not there yet. But the regular, resting faces look good and most non-exaggerated facial expressions look good too. Like in this pic, Sherry asks the embarrassing boyfriend and girlfriend question and you can tell just from the faces what they are all saying / thinking.
And yeah Claire suffers the worst from this deformation problem because her cheeks are a bit puffier than the other characters. Still I think she looks cute when the deformation is not messing her up, and would still look cute doing those expressions if the deformation worked properly
David Ross
Ryder Price
I like it becuase jordan is VERY cute!
Isaac Young
lol that valley thot in the last frame quickly looking away from the alpha female
Nolan Diaz
That webm has a lot of legs too bro. Don't lump us with footfags just because the leg is connected to the foot
Nathaniel Moore
Sorry, I dunno legs is weird too to be honest but at least you guys are no where near as vocal and creepy as footfags i'll give you that
Wyatt Thomas
>Sorry, I dunno legs is weird too to be honest
not really, it's actually incredibly common
Dylan Roberts
>
They did a good job scanning jordan's legs!
Jaxon Thompson
denying a man feet is maximum faggotry
Jordan Hall
That's my wife Jordan
Ian Scott
She has nice legs in her normal costumes too. Her knees in particular look very good, very anatomically correct
Tyler Wright
I like it when they model them properly, the face capture thing Capcom does just doesn't work though, Claire barely looks like the model she's based on.
Nevermind the fact that the person doing her voice acting isn't the same person who she's modeled after.
I get why the face capture tech Capcom uses is supposedly advanced, but I don't get the purpose it serves. Why pay a bunch of money for some random model for the face capture, especially when said face capture doesn't look as good as them at all.
Dylan Bell
jordan is such a beautiful angel haha
Jonathan Wright
you JUST know
Aiden Barnes
Then why does shy look nothing like Claire?
Give me sources that support your claims.
Matthew Harris
holy shit tachibana sagawa and awano are 1:1
Alexander Ortiz
I always found it funny that despite the fact that he never has any action scenes, Sagawa's actor is the most ripped of all the cast members.
Caleb Diaz
.anyone have the pic of Jordan in a skimpy white dress?
Brody Brown
I don't mind based it on somebody but I don't like facescanning. It's trash and dumb to smoke.
Carter Cox
She has larger nose bridge, different lips and her maxillar bone is more projected. I'm almost positive the changes were intentional because if the scans were just inaccurate then all the characters would look like unnatural freaks (to everyone, not just the minority who already think they do). Personally I think Claire's face looks very realistic and that the lips are actually an improvement, but her model has a better nose and your nose defines how your overall face looks more
Logan Edwards
I love Jordan
Connor Parker
>Beautiful Reality Face Claire
this sounds like it came from a fucking pajeet
Jackson Hernandez
Post more Jordan
Dylan Hall
Does anyone know if there is some difference between the tech they use for getting actor's faces in Until Dawn / MGSV / GTA5 and the tech they use for getting them in RE2 / DMC5 ?
Aaron Phillips
Claire has the sexiest face in gaming history
Brayden Kelly
I think it's due to the fact that she was face scanned a couple years ago and has only just turned 18 this year (I think?), so she's obviously lost some baby fat and is still maturing
I don't know why Capcom insists on scanning such young girls for their female protagonists. I suppose it worked for Voth and Claire doesn't look outright bad, but it's clearly what has contributed to some of the odd looks.
Aaron Miller
Yes. The games are 5 years apart. Obviously. Tech has improved
Tyler Wood
Probably little/no difference in tech but the engines will make the faces look different in game
Jace Edwards
Voth looked 35 at age 13
Jordan Evans
I think so too (at least female face). I recognize she's not a supermodel but she has the feminine girl-next-door look nailed and it makes her so cute IMO. Only some girls from movie-games like Detroit and Until Dawn can compare. She looks significantly hotter than like Elena, Kassandra, Aloy and nu-Lara to me.
I like girls with DOA type faces too, but they are like anime girls to me and I've always preferred real girls
Samuel Gonzalez
I have a lot of rare jordans
Ian Watson
Is that onimusha 3?
Nathaniel Robinson
lol she looks pissed
Andrew Edwards
>Goddammit Sherry! I told you to wait for the signal!
Noah Long
please be the opening of one of those "public porns"
Blake Anderson
They intentionally made her less attractive to make sure nobody waifu'd her. Why do they fucking do that? Don't they realize that waifuism boosts sales?
Fucking Western devs. They even desexualize Lara Croft more with each new game, and she's supposed to be like a sex symbol for videogames.
And neither of those devs making those characters are even based in America, which is supposed to be the main offender for this kind of shit
Ryan Green
yep, featuring jean reno
Evan Williams
How come the actual woman looks pretty but the in-game model looks so fucking ugly
Andrew Gonzalez
this chick is hot, I actually have a webm of her on my computer
Jordan Powell
No, it always makes the game look like some soulless cashgrab.
David Long
yes
creating real faces entirely from imagination can make em look fuckin weird
Isaiah Nguyen
>Jordan made me get into stalking models and instathots
Elijah Roberts
see for how she looks different.
And she's only ever ugly in some of the cutscenes because of bad scrunchy deformation of her face during some of her expressions.
If you think the face in this pic is ugly you're retarded.
Anthony Evans
Grayson Bailey
Looks fucking nothing like her
Kevin Davis
she looks like she fucks asian dudes
Luke Brown
Yo
Joshua Reed
>tfw Jordan most definitely got lovingly laid after this pic
Adrian Gutierrez
haha nope
Brandon Gonzalez
Jordan is a very ripe and nubile young lady and it's perfectly normal for her to knock boots with other young lads!
Lincoln Sullivan
>stop using face scan technology
Juan Gonzalez
jordan only have platonic fun with her firends, nothing lewd or sexual at all!
Julian Collins
Why are her upper legs wayyyy longer than her lower legs? That's strange
Robert Rivera
RDR2 did it
It looked pretty good for the men but the women were all too gruff looking, none of them ever looked cute. They were just scanned off the voice actors mostly though
Joshua Jenkins
It just looks like that because her pants go up past her bellybutton and because they are a little loose so they bend a little floppy at the knee.
Cooper Smith
thank you for not being blind and retarded like the person you had to answer to.
Brody Phillips
What went wrong?
Leo Reed
No I don't like it because now I can't Jack off to Quiet knowing that Stefanie Joosten is a real person that I can never have.
Bentley Davis
no way fag
Jaxson Morris
You're nuts, they looked great. The facial animations were better than in RE2 on average
Christopher Morgan
Was this Claire based someone?
Jack Phillips
jordan is pretty autistic, i bet she lets anyone with confidence fuck her.
James James
Quite possibly Liv Tyler like Code Veronica.
Carson Nelson
Huh.
I had no idea CV Claire was based on anyone
Ryder Howard
Yes, and the original claire was based on Neve Campbell.
Noah Gonzalez
Have sex. And subscribe to Pewdiepie.
Juan Cruz
Claire is amazing
Gavin Nguyen
anyone has a pic of Jordan wearing choker?
Gabriel Bailey
Lucas Bennett
more MORE
Brandon Gutierrez
Unless it's Miranda Lawson, no.
Oliver Thomas
Easton Gutierrez
Claire. Claire Redfield.
Gavin Moore
Definitely. Remove censorfags.
Cooper Allen
I wish you could actually discuss the topic in these threads and not just watch ugly spergs lust over Claire's actor.
Brayden Rogers
I love her
Kayden Brooks
seems like a lazy way for game devs to avoid designing characters. fuck originality, just scan some unheard of models face, boom. I would be more fine with it if they stopped doing this shit to established characters. claire looked the same for 20 fucking years, why make her look like a completely different person now?
Oliver Campbell
I find it impossible not to.
Evan Bell
>claire looked the same for 20 fucking years
???
Michael Foster
Sometimes it pays to create a character from scratch
Colton Smith
She's a butterface and her hair is awful without a hat but I still managed to think she was pretty hot in-game. Actually playing a game and liking it really makes a protagonist like that grow on you. They made her so young and so lifelike and the graphics were so good. I wore the fire outfit all the time because every other one covered up her body way too much
Thomas Gutierrez
>tfw you can't stop thinking about Claire
Cameron Reed
Take a good look at these eyebags
Benjamin Sanders
Joshua Robinson
Absolutely not, easily been the worst aspect of modern Capcom, it's lazy and somehow actually makes them uglier than their real counter parts despite 2D > 3D
Connor Thompson
Claire is a ray of sunshine.
Chase Brown
I want to make her smile like this
Chase Gutierrez
I think those kinda eyes look good, it makes girls look sultry. Claire has them a bit too
Grayson Green
Michael Hall
Those are eyes you can get lost in
Sebastian Gomez
The main problem that i find with face-scanning technology (especially with the RE engine) is that when it comes to male characters, the program ends up accentuating their sharp features but kinda messed up at times when it comes to female characters and their delicate features. Plus it does seem to give character a wider jawline.
Which I definitely think is why Leon actually looks better than his face model while Claire doesn't look quite right compared to Jordan.
If they want to continue with face scanning, they should really fix this issue.
Christian Kelly
Claire a cute.
Matthew Taylor
Leon's model doesn't even have a butt-chin yet they decided to just add that on
Ethan Rogers
As long as they're attractive
Logan Garcia
Claire is marriable
Joseph Smith
Even Leon has moments where he looks dopey
Cameron Lopez
Stop bullying Claire's pinchable cheeks
Gabriel Jones
Not bullying, I still like her look and her character overall. And I think Jordan McEwen is a great face model for Claire
It's just I can understand why it tends to look off and that the devs just need to tweak a few things when it comes to female models
Eli Morgan
I'm pretty sure those are just Capcom's stylistic choices. They scan the faces and then modify them. They have always liked having more distinctive features on their white people, even if they don't equate to conventional beauty standards. But still the tech will get better I'm sure; the face scanning in RE2R and DMCV was a noticeable improvement over RE7 from 2 years ago
Christopher Wright
any real life person does too
Nathaniel Thomas
John Miller
Oh absolutely. Don't get me wrong, I personally liked Claire and Leon's look in the remake. I'm just saying, it can be difficult to get delicate female features.
I definitely hope to see the models again soon in future games
Ryder Price
Ian Allen
I want to see Claire's tummy
Easton Thomas
She is perfect.
Gabriel Murphy
Leon Thcott Kennedy of the Racoon Thity Polithe Department
Ethan Robinson
Lucky for you she likes to show it off
Thomas Flores
Claire is sweet and caring
Matthew Bennett
>Claire's death animations in the remake
Leo Ortiz
You're all under arrest!
Easton Flores
imagine naming your daughter Jordan
Alexander Rodriguez
I dunno, really angular faces are more like the girls from The Witcher 3 or RDR2. Claire and Ada both look very feminine, no one ever calls either manly or a trap despite all the hate and shitflinging. Claire's face in particular is very delicate and not angular at all if you ask me; the overbite is a huge soft-looking feature. Her jaw may be a little wider than her model's jaw but I don't think that's the game engine or anything, that's just Capcom and their peculiar preferences
Leo Kelly
she is a giantess
Lincoln Bailey
Why was Lindsey Lohan suing Rockstar for using her likeness when it was clearly Kate Upton who they were copying.
Hudson Lee
look at this bimbo and laugh
Jackson Baker
Needs coke money.
Kayden Richardson
looks like the skimpy clothes mods are finally coming out
Andrew Sullivan
Those scenes were great. Claire is so heartwarming.
Gabriel Barnes
Ha..ha...ah
Liam Sanders
It's about time too
Carter Hernandez
This one looks great, there's a version with no hat too.
There are also 2 new modified versions of the nude mod with added pubic hair for all you >shaved posters. One of them has a super hairy mega bush and armpit hair
Ryder Rivera
Yeah I saw the no hat one. There's also different colored ones as well.
Leo King
I went to high school with a girl named Tyler. She was actually super hot, everyone always talked about what a babe she was
Joshua Powell
Liam Cooper
Claire really needs a shower and some rest