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SMTV when

Curious when we will get more news about SMT V. Some details or a release date would be appreciated.

On a side note, finished SMT 4 a while back (was a lot of fun) , should I do SMT4 Apocalypse or try Soul Hackers next?

4A if you want more press turn
Soul Hackers if you want old school dungeon crawlan

I want to make love to Hua Po!

She doesn't love you you disgusting Jewish mortal.

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Soul Hackers is a much more enjoyable experience, even if IVA is probably technically a better game. The dialogue in IVA sucks ass and every character is a varying degree of unlikeable, it completely tramples on the atmosohere of IV.

i swaer

I'm heavily biased against 4A, but Soul Hackers is fantastic. It really feels like a product of its time, and hit me with a truckload of nostalgia.

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satisfiability modulo theories?

Fuck friends

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I'm up for discussing theories on how best to satisfy some modulos, if you know what I am saying.

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FUCK LAWFAGS AND FUCK CHAOSNIGGERS

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I wanna replay strange journey but the shitty parts like sector E and ouroborus make me not want to
is the remake any good or is it a typical shitty remake?

Is the negotiation mechanic being pure rng and shit a meme?

Yes and no
Some demons you can negotiate with reliably, some demons are Mothman.

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Does being stronger than them increase your odds?

>does Social links better than Persona and alignments better than mainline
How did they do it?

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No. Learn to read personalities and pick responses you think they want to hear.
Sometimes you also need to know when to say "No" to a request.

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dude same

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The only good characters in 2 are Daichi, Fumi, and Makoto. Everybody else has brain problems.

I want to fuck the fairy

user please I don't think her tiny body can handle it

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Depends on the game. In Nocturne for example, it's raw RNG.

The only non RNG elements is that when it comes to actual requests, certain personality types are weighted toward certain behaviours and reactions. For example, the bratty female type will keep asking for shit as long as you keep giving it.

depends on the game
off the top of my head in nocturne if a demon asks you a yes or no question you have no actual input on the matter the choice is decided the minute the question is initiated.

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>user please I don't think her tiny body can handle it

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I don't want to discuss SMT.

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Don't come crying to me if she breaks

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>Curious when we will get more news about SMT V. Some details or a release date would be appreciated.
10 days my friend

Where do I start with SMT series? I saw that universe map and it really confused me as hell.

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I really fucked over myself for playing SMT1 as my first, haven’t I? This whole experience so far has been miserable.

Well don’t start with the SNES SMT original if you don’t want to suffer

That universe map is bullshit, the games are mostly unrelated aside from some references and theories.
I'd recommend starting with Digital Devil Saga since it plays more like a traditional JRPG, then Nocturne. Then go wild.

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*looks in your general direction
YALL BEST BE WORKING IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF HUMANITY'S INFINITE POTENTIAL.

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Something simple like DDS on PS2 or Devil Survivor on 3DS, then SMT4 to get a feel for what most of the series is like.

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I'm a neutralfag, but neutral in SJ and SJR sucks a massive cock
Literally any other route is better

I thought they were awesome, but I had played smt4 first tho. Much better story than the later games.

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Why recommend spin offs if he wanted to try smt? Fags.

Start with 3, 4 or strange journey.

nocturne is 100% rng

They're good and less of a time investment
>Bitching about spinoffs and then recommending SJ, which is both a spinoff and an absolute slag of a game sometimes
May as well tell him to play Soul Hackers and build MC for Magic

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same user, good god are SMT games THIS fucking long? Holy shit, this game feels like it drags on and on.

DMC V featuring YHVH from the SMT series

But that character is from persona

Ronaldo did nothing wrong.

SMT:SJ

Depends on game.
In SJ picking according to alignment usually works.
Then you get bullshit like "compare me to a fruit"

SJ is mainline you dumbass

lamest meme

Because it's titled SMT? So is Devil Survivor.

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>compare me to a fruit
Watermelon.

No dumbass because fucking ATLUS said so.

youtu.be/zcQpUBjaxko

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oh and in addition they can be rigged, both possible answers can fuck up the negotiation

Nocturne or IV, I'm leaning more towards IV since it represents the elements of most of the SMT games in one game.

No, SJ's planned name was in fact SMTIV. The only reason they changed was because they thought the setting didn't fit. Just because it has a subtitle doesn't mean it's not mainline.

>Dante and Vergil ravaging Hell is the reason for apocalypse in one of SMT games
Cuhrazy kino

Hoy

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haha imagine smt mobile game

It's not funny since Dx2 exists.

Gonna need a quick rundown

>haha imagine
Too soon

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that's precisely why it's funny

Dx2 is a SMT mobile game.

It was actually a few autists screeching about it not being SMT if it's not set in Tokyo.

Why can't I summon Jesus in any of the games?

I remember a few retards spending hundreds rolling Alice in a game that died like a month later because everyone else stopped playing.

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She bankrupted DOZENS

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Play P3, you are a walking Jesus allegory and his ultimate Persona is literally "Messiah".

I wanted to reroll for her but I got bored like one day in

>put loli as rarest and most desirable item in your gacha
>watch the numbers in your bank account go up

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Devil Summoner 1

Wait, are all the servers dead or just NA?

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>tfw watched a speedrun of True Demon End SMT Nocturne because I was never gonna do it myself
>all nearly 14 hours of it
Was pretty surprised he got it done that fast, and also funny to see various RNG fuckups.
>got Dormina'd into Eternal Rest after all the Fate boss battles because you have to 50/50 with your equipped Magatama
sheeeeeeeeeit

Yeah I watched that while grinding in persona 5, just makes me want a next gen SMT game so badly, Persona is too gay.

Soul Hackers

Because half the time you ARE Jesus.

Nah you're only Jesus in two games
And in one of those you're more Bio-Jesus

I want a Desu 3, dammit.

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i want to fuck that monkey

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>sleep into instakill
fuck this shit
every game this happens to me at least once, be it smt or persona

Either this or SMTV already please. Desu is just such dumb fun.
I only played 5 SMT games and P5 so far, so I still have lots of other shit I can play in the meantime.

Persona 3 FES or Portable

shiggy diggy

You are the "messiah" in every smt.

Strange Journey is by far the worst SMT I've finished so far.

What's the most unga bunga strategy for a brainlet like me?

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Please refrain from posting any more hoyboys. This is a neutral tgread.

SMT like game where you can date and have sex with demons.

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Not really
eraMegaten it's text based

Eramegaten

I like SMT

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Please, accept this!

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I really want Kaneko designs in this, or at least inspired by him with his distinct eyes and lips. I like what I'm seeing of the old trailer.

Also I hope we get a pre-apocalypse game like SMT1, I think there's a lot of cool stuff to say 27 years later about how the apocalypse will be brought in. I replayed SMT1 and it's still impressive how they set it up even today

I also want Yuriko to come back...

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SMT racing game

What are your favorite redesigns?

Go for 4A. It's very fast-paced and I'm sure that you'll finish it few days.

PUNGENT

Why is this thread so comfy when the rest of Yea Forums is shit?

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Doi's human redraws for soul hackers

cause it's dead

Yea Forums are brainlets who can't into SMT. The more niche a game is the comfier the threads and fans.

So that explains why Persona threads tend to suck.

DDS or SMTIV.

>he doesn't already smash demons so hard they join you for free

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They're talking about the gacha game, not IMAGINE, and last time I saw it it's still pretty active.

Persona threads tend to attract waifufag brainlets.

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>Demon asks for Macca

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>not only marrying and fuging only one demon

>SMT threads don't have waifufags
Who are you trying to fool here user?

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herro my uncre work at atrus and sent me this redesigns from SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI V

prease dont reak anywhere or he might rose his job!

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Never said it's not at SMT as well. The thing is, Persona's main attraction is the waifus. Ironic weebs wouldn't touch SMT, so the waifu faggotry in here is less severe.

There are two different types of waifufags. There are those who act like their waifu is their girlfriend and will treat them as if they were their girlfriend. And the other type of waifufag calls some characters as "waifus" but it's just another way of saying "favorite female character." Persona threads have the former and SMT threads have the latter

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>And the other type of waifufag calls some characters as "waifus" but it's just another way of saying "favorite female character." Persona threads have the former and SMT threads have the latter
Oh please I've seen enough ''demonfus'' threads to know this is not true. Both sides got those 2 even moreso persone with all the newfags calling their favourite girl waifu

>Maruology at the very bottom
Disgusting.

Can you post to discuss Persona 1 and 2?

I started with 1 and enjoyed it, but I'm also hardcore unlike you and most people here.

P1 is SMT lite.
P2 is weeb shit.

Persona 1 > rest

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I can talk about how P2 is one of the most overrated games I ever played if you want?

I will never understand why I love these characters so much. They only have a couple of lines, and one of them ends up as a brainwashed fool, but I can't help but love them.
Fuck Heroine though.

>P2 is weeb shit.
Does that rule out SMT4:A as well?

I think waifu wars in particular are the problem. In SMT threads it doesn't matter if you wanna fug Pixie or Asherah, we get along. But in Persona threads, Makotofags and Futabafags are constantly shit flinging at each other even though those two are basically the same character, and this shit flinging consumes the entire thread and is often the basis of them

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Apocalypse is garbage, yes.

What the fuck is a Bio-Jesus?

>Makotofags and Futabafags are constantly shit flinging at each other even though those two are basically the same character
Are you trying to start shit? Because it sounds like you are trying to start shit.

A fake Jesus.

>Sega convention at the end of March is going to primarily focus on CA and Atlus games along with Sonic.
>There’s also going to be an announcement specifically regarding Atlus as a company.

What could it be?

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Genetically engineered Jesus because the real one wasn't coming soon enough
An important part of SMT is that Jesus doesn't exist

Also rules out I, II, If..., SJ, IV, Debisama, Soul Hackers, both Raidou games, both DeSu, both DDS, all of Persona. Too bad.

Nocturne only barely passes because it literally has no plot due to being unfinished.

It does have the best gameplay of mainline so far though.

PC ports

Yeah this thread is fucking over. Go home WEEBS.

Is it funny that whenever Xenoblade have a waifu war thread, the whole purpose of the thread, the waifus, end up dying and the whole topic ended up changing into actual gameplay talks?

ebin

SMT4:A was great you /smtg/ hivemind retards.
Great antagonists, great final boss and dungeon, great DLCs, best mechanics, map wasn't a complete shitshow as in IV and if you let a few faggot characters ruin that for you it's your own fault home slices.

ummm delete this, this is /smtg/ thread not a persona general

I started with Kyuuyaku and loved it, it's still my favorite in the series. Next, I played smt1, which isn't bad but feels kinda weak after a certain point in the game, then smt2 which is amazing but has a lot of backtracking, then if... which I found really fun and reminded me of kyuuyaku but it has that fucking sloth dungeon which automatically makes it a bad game, and now I'm playing Nocturne and having fun with it. I'd say just go with whatever game looks the most appealing to you

This thread needs more based posts like this.

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SMT4:A is resetera favorite game.

>great final boss and dungeon
>and dungeon
Kill yourself YHVH.

Brainlet detected, also the music in there was, no pun intended, god like.

It was a fucking slog that should've been half the size. Don't fucking waste my time running through what appears like empty fucking space. Literally.

Was literally sleep inducing
Hard to believe the same guy that made IV's OST did that crap

SURVIVED THE FALL FROM GRACE

I've only played 4,4A and SJ Redux so far but a recurring issue I've noticed is that around lategame you really start feeling the drought in demon fusions. Like it's 1-3 demons per level so if those particular ones aren't good enough you have to stick to your underleveled demons you've been using or delve into special fusions which rapes your macca supply.

Persona only has waifus as its main selling point, that's why it attracts so much scum.

You forgot ya boi Abel's own Overlord tier

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Resurrection

Mostly, often based on your int stat

Kind of want an SMT x Persona game.
Just power wise really.
Have a Persona user (not even a wildcard) use their persona while fighting demons.

Remember, Persona isn't part of the SMT community.

Imagine them rubbing their tiny bare feet all over your cock.

I liked Digital Devil Sagas Mantra grid.
Any chance of getting something like that again in mainline?

Nocturne, smt strange journey, smt iv, persona 3-5 are probably the most common entry points
But you can almost start with any you think you would like. It's only a few which are connected directly with an other game

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Put everything in str

Possible but unlikely

>generic gun-wielding marines
great game, SMTards

Do I need to play IV before playing Apocalypse? I found IVA at the thrift store for cheap and I was gonna start it soon but I wanted to know if I wouldn't get anything out of it without the context from IV.

P1,2 and 5.

Smt 1, 2 remakes

Kind of, they have text dumps of shit that happend in IV, but it is still a direct sequal and you will lose out on a ton of context.

You should

>Accidentally destroying the world like a dumbass

Well hello my SMT IV playthrough.

Still feels bad

Just kill them then.
;)

>implying

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As opposed to discussing what else?

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>we haven’t had a proper SMT game for a real console since the PS2
How

This. Dagda is best demon and also completely right.

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Because PS360 were fucking garbage

devil survivor

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I can't think for myself and have no opinions, tell me if I should start with SMT IV.

>play SMTIV
>it's pretty good
>play Strange Journey Redux
>it's fucking garbage
Any other games in the series I need to avoid then?

Your right cuz Persona's more popular. It essentially made SMT the spinoff. I know it caters to normies but don't be surprised when SMT becomes Personanified to make more cash.

New Raidou game when?

If Persona is already making that cash why would they bother changing SMT instead of making Persona 6? 4 Apocalypse already showed that 'personafying' doesn't work

Even the best part of the game was a colossal disappointment. SMT4a is shit.

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youtube.com/watch?v=rj7Z4sKR73g
Why couldn't this dungeon have been longer?

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They'll go even further with it. Probably go in the lines of Devil Summoner like social links.

>Not giving your Pixie phys resistance
i thought you wanted an onahole not a blody mess

Red side is so much better than the blue side it’s not even a competition

God she's so cute.

Honestly at this point what's the difference between the two anymore beside edginess and popularity?

They just seem very down to earth, if it wasn't for the cataclysm, Chaos Hero would've just been some loner or maybe a schoolshooter forgotten within a month. Law Hero would just live his normalfag life with his girlfriend and Neutral Hero from all the extra info I could find, is literally /ourguy/. When brought together they seem like unlikely allies and even after splitting up I can't help but imagine them all respecting each other for being near equals strength-wise. I think them also not felating you and disappearing for most of the second half also made each encounter with them somewhat interesting.

Persona's better.

>dungeon
I hope you mean the one near the beginning because YHVH universe is literally padding. I would've unironically not minded a hallway over this mess, even Sector Grus in SJ wasn't this bad.

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Better than a fucking DS

Friends as a feature are only good if you can kill or abandon them.

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That's pretty fucking edgy dude.

This
Exactly. When someone likes SMT but doesn’t like Persona they’re literally telling you that they only like SMT for the edginess

Hell no nigger

Setting.

How retarded are you? It sold like shit and recieved massive backlash

Way less processing power, graphics, and ability to actually play the games

Friends irl are only good because you can choose them, if people you don't like are forced on you it ruins the experience.

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What did? Not Persona that shit went mainstream. It's almost like now people are getting into the SMT series through Persona.

Can I be your friend? You seem like a cool guy.

only redeeming factor.

>only for edginess
>not that your actions actually have consequences
>not that the morality and alignment system means you are not necessarily in the right and have to compromise on morals, in comparison to Persona where you are always in the right.
>not that the gameplay is better
>not that it's not half a fucking visual novel.

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Is eramegaten actually fun?

Everything
>b-b-but p5 has guns nao!

Try reading my posts before being a robot and reposting the same thing over and over

>SMTfags STILL can’t go one thread without seething about Persona
Rent free

Fucking hungry since Deep strange journey. What do i wait for now, and how much longer?

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>shit up thread
>get replies
>lol rent free
based retard

So? What's the verdict? SMT with biggest, richest, the best fusion system?

I completed Digital Devil Saga.
The music was incredible and even though every environment was grimdark I loved the architecture.

How does DDS2 fare in comparison?
I can't help but feel like not being in the Junkyard is going to be a step down.

Nocturne or Soul Hackers

P3 beats it with 4 and more demon fusion.

It is, but DDS2 has enough charm to still stand on its own.

If you play it try to keep everyone reasonably equal. You can get away with benching Cielo the whole game like you did in DDS1.

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That's literally just special fusion from SJ/4

I found it to be an endless grating journey, trying to beat you into submission with it's length, teleporter maze and endless chanting music with industrial noises.
I can see why most people hated it especially if they just wanted it to get over it and close out the game, but I embraced it and it was an entrancing experience far more enjoyable than the endless maze with the fiends for example.

All SMT fusion systems are better than Persona's because it's used for 3 party members instead of 1

I'm one of those fags that forces classes on to my party. I used Serph as a Black Mage type character, Argilla as a healer, Cielo dealt the status ailments, Heat was Physical damage dealer/Tank, and Gale was an all round "red mage" type.
I feel like doing this sort of makes the battles a bit more of a strategic challenge as you need to swap in party members to do specific jobs; because in games like DDS it's all too easy to just make every character the same.

Does DDS2 force your party composition all the time? I can't stand games that do that because it majorly fucks up the class thing. There's nothing worse than losing all your healers for dungeons at a time or your main damage dealer just decides to fuck off.

It kinda does, there's a lot of characters leaving and returning

>he hasn’t played Persona 1

Not really. Gale and Cielo will carry you all the way to the end, there's only one short and easy dungeon where you'll need to use either Roland or Argilla
Cielo also isn't shit like he is in DDS1, which is nice

>capcom and atlus will never work on a raidou
Our waifufaggatory is replaced with mostly alignmentfaggatory
I just really liked dagda, music, divine powers and the combat, rest is 50/50.
Gaston's underrated.

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Neither have personafags

>if people you don't like are forced on you it ruins the experience.
Sounds like irl to me.

>He changed his Persona in Persona 1.
Seriously there is actually zero reason to do this.

I played Persona 1 and 2

>Our waifufaggatory is replaced with mostly alignmentfaggatory

It's clearly shitposting, everone knows Neutral is the only proper option when both other choices are being a dumb pawn of magical parasites in the form of mythical beings.

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Ah that's a bummer.

I'll still take Persona fusion over SMT4 fusion.

niceaman best boy

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It feels like it was intended for something bigger, idk

I think IV:A is the best with fusion
>shitton of demons
>ton of special fusions
>no hours wasted trying to get the desired skill setup due to randumb number generator
>affinity penalty so you don't just copy paste shit unless you want a 20- MP penalty

My pet peeves are:
>Famed and Zealot demons are ass to get and even more ass to make a good setup for
>still no extensive Weapon Fusion in mainline since SMT I and II, only one questline to chug Orochi for the Murakumo sword
It's embarrassing that Persona has more weapon fusion than mainline and I wish each Famed/Zealot/Fiend demon had some sort of secret questline you could trigger by exploring the overworld.

God completing the game, getting all famed and Zealot demons drove me almost crazy

You didn’t play Persona 1 then because that’s retarded. That only applies in P2 Innocent Sin and even then you change to your prime persona and then your ultimate persona

>Exposing himself as someone who only parrots what others say
>Cant even parrot right

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This is actually true
It seems actual waifufags do not use the word "waifu" in the first place
But then again, fake waifufag >>>>>>>>>>> actual waifufag, so its fine by me

The difference here is that we don't spend an entire thread autistically ranting about which demon is better than the other, and at most if we do discuss fucking demons it usually doesn't last long. I've seen entire Personya threads dedicated to people telling each other to cope for liking one basic bitch over the other.

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>neutralfag

SegaFes hopefully.

>not liking based chawanmushi man

the biggest issue with persona fags is that most of them dont actually like the actual game bits and only like the VN parts

So what happens if you fuck a demon with phys repel?

It's a perfectly fine starting point and is even better if you've not been spoiled on the story.

Pic related but with your dick instead of water

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>watch the numbers in your bank account go up
Ironic considering how the exact opposite is what happened lmao

Don't be that guy user. Half the anons here are "those Persona fags".

Depends on the game, for instance a lot of games you can go full world of str but in IV youll be literally useless

Thank god we don't have bones in our dick unlike certain animal species.

Gameplay was great story was dreck, characters were a mixed bag

Which SMT games actually have good story and characters?

>nine is mainline
>but not IMAGINE
Sasuga, sega

SMT 1 and... that's pretty much it.

none, read the DDS novels (saga or story)

>dds novels
STOP HURTING ME user

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I don't want to read complete bullshit.

IV and IVA easily
>fusion calculator and compendium searching built in
>can actually decide what skills to transfer instead of autistically going to the same menu over and over again to get what you want from the rng

need someone to whisper me pierce then

Then stop posting it kiddo.

I, IV, DDS, DeSu 1&2, Soul Hackers and Persona 2

>Persona openings will never be this good again
>youtube.com/watch?v=R1bgbfEPUog
IT FUCKING HURTS. Also P2 duology remake when?

Why is there lunch and dinner at demon auction in Devil Survivor? Is that an inside joke or am I missing something?

Devil Survivor takes place in the same universe.

>also worst Persona game remake when?
Hopefully never. Watching p2 flop over and over again is not entertaining anymore.

After the persona games that actually sold well and didnt kill the series for 6 years

Is SMT better then Persona?

We can talk about sales all day long, but they objectively had some of the best story and characters in the Persona series. If you unironically think any of the new gen Persona games have better plot, you're the reason why the series panders to the common denominator of waifufags and otaku. The only other Persona game that "maybe" qualifies as being as good is Persona 3.

Which is the gayest SMT game?

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How the FUCK do I get an SMT gf

Do I really have to convert some casual Persona girl

You weren't specific enough. There's a lot of categories, and saying "is X better than X?" without any context isn't helpful.

Ladies and gentlemen, I have come to say the n-word.

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Do you have to ask?

You just posted it.
Just fuck a bitch who loves Persona.

It's fuck fascinating how much research went into some of these and how obscure some of the design choices are demons themselves are

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How many girls like Persona anyways?

Sorry, but I disagree. The story it's too retarded and the characters are too edgy and unbelievable for my taste, and I'm pretty sure most people agree with me since the games sell like shit.

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Was to lazy to shop them together
>inb4 tumblr

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Very nice image, thats exactly why I love Kanekos designs so much. Not simple repetition, but transformation without forgetting the characters origin.

What? How? Brainwashing the entire crew and destroying Arthur sucks.

More like the game deviated from the school setting people seem to crave, the characters were adults, and there were no social links so it was too mature for most people.
>Too edgy
Like Strega, Adachi, or Pancakes boy aren't?

Its exactly their strange feel that draws me to them though, they all have that otherworldy jankie feel only old dos games and genesis games have.
Some of them are just as old of course but even the newer ones bare Apocalypse, though it has it's moments, manage that.

LUCIFER GET DOWN

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Some dumb redditor says he makes SMT threads on Yea Forums. I don't trust you guys.

Yes

NO DON'T SAY IT!

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>the characters were adults
Glad to know you are just a larper and didn't play the games.
Have one last (you) on the house.

Yeah but those aren't friends, even if you have to deal with them daily. Persona forces you to call them friends whether you want to or not.

Yes
t. Someone that started with P3 and unironically bought a vita for Golden

I like my final dungeon in an SMT game to be stupidly long with a ton of bosses and gimmicks. YHVH Dimension is good.

Reminder that captain jack did nothing wrong

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Based ancap
Unfortunately I had to kill him for violating the NAP

Still better than the SMT approach.
>here, these faggots are your bffs
>now kill each other, lmao

I guess you didn't play Eternal Punishment. But hey, here's one last (you) on the house.

I don't like fags so killing them sounds pretty good to me. I don't see the issue.

>here these faggots are your bffs
>now hold hands at god until he dies from your friendship
Smt is several magnitudes better.

Yea Forums is reddit's shitposting playground, and it's been this way for years. Anyone that thinks this place is anything special in 2019 is a retard.

from his point of view, you violated it first by sending Jimenez to spy on them

so whats the source for the Taimanin Asagi in SMT IV images I keep seeing?

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>Tfw SMT IV unironically made reference to Yea Forums culture by making demons crave "red pills" as food
Based Kaneko, he cute.

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the fuck?

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Can someone edit this with a more HD version of the Samurai outfit? I know there's a high res Isabeau around.

actually it was a translation mistake (or an intentional translation change)

>Translation mistake
Or was it..?

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Theres a bunch, i dont know ewhere they're from

Fujo, just look it up on pixiv and compare yuri to yaoi and that's your answer.

NEUTRAL

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>play the first SMT
>kill 2 of the 4 Kings on my neutral playthrough
>reach the Grand Cathedral and softlock myself because I didn't kill all 4 of them
FUCK THIS GAME SO MUCH
I REFUSE TO START ALL OVER, THIS IS ACTUAL HORSESHIT

the 4 kings?

>20XX
>he doesn't create safestates every 10 min. or before every potentially lethal encounter
You poor dumbass.

Didn't the spinoff surpass the main series?

What was it in japland? I'm pretty sure red pills is fine, because they're pills that are made from human flesh and brains.

Red orbs I believe. Maybe i'm misremembering whether where i read it was trustworthy or not though.

Yeah dude I totally should've known that those piss easy bosses were totally endgame material. Fuck off, and fuck SMT1, I'm never touching this shitty game again unless there's a way to circumvent this.

SMTfags won't admit that despite being true at the gay awards.

how do you even get to the cathedral without defeating them?

SMT 1 is a broken mess gamplaywise, destroyed by zio, hinokagutsuchi and ailment bullets so every boss is piss easy.
It's also famous for numerous softlocks in the endgame so how did you download the game but not pick up on that?
Stop seething and just watch a video of the ending if you need closure.

Even in your SMT thread

N-I-A

This is my first SMT game, so dumbass me though “hmmmm maybe I’ll beat them in release order” and started with NOT the iOS or GBA remake, but the original SNES game. I had no idea what I was getting myself into and I paid the price for my curiosity. I could just watch the ending, but honestly, with how much time I spent on this garbage video game, it would probably just feel humiliating. I thought this game would be a simple and straightforward RPG, a decent point to start as to where the series got its roots, but what I got was a fucking mess of a video game. Nowhere to go but up from here, I guess.

It's optional since you can just rush to the chaos/law/neutral points anyway
>got deadgamed once by freeing psychodriver first before finding the heroine in shibuya
just as janky was gen 1 pokemon. Still prefer replaying that over 2, however

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should've used a guide imo, no shame in that even if you didn't get fucked over

FUCK OFF XENOCRINGE 2 FAGGOTS. NOBODY EVEN ASKED FOR YOU FAGS TO SHOW UP.

I mean it's true, but Persona is still pretty pathetic. I'd rather play Xenoblade 2 of all things over Persona 5.

the gacha game is pretty fun desu

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All spinoffs are better than SMT
Well, on average of course

pure salt, yummy