>Yea Forums several years ago: Steam is shit, valve doesn't even make games anymore. They steal money from devs by forcing them to put their product on steam and they can't even be bothered to make steam a competent platform. We need a competitor for steam
>Yea Forums now: LE epic store bad. circle jerk circle jerk! I dont want any competition to steam
Will you fuckers make up your mind. You want steam to start shaping up and improve their service? You have to accept the fact that there will be things like exclusives and price undercutting. This will be better for the consumers and devs in the long run so long as you fuckers don't keep doing shit like boycotting games just because a game is an epic store exclusive.
nothing about the epic store is better for the consumers
Adrian Torres
>competition forces two companies to start competing for users by improving their product
and when has steam ever put the customer first? They only give a shit when the users get angry and even then they take their sweet fucking time doing something about it.
Leo Myers
Not OP but you could argue that Epics support and encouragement of smaller and independant game developers is pushing the artform and breaking up the monolithic culture, which in turn leads to better products for the consumers.
t. Gamedev who recieved funding from Epic for his indie game
Charles Collins
>Yea Forums several years ago >They steal money from devs by forcing them to put their product on steam holy shit man you aren't even trying to hide your lies
Ayden Ramirez
>store has DRM get that disgusting filth away from me. I'd rather there be a monopoly than introduce YET ANOTHER launcher that rents me my games instead of letting me buy them. How dare you think that I'm not allowed to OWN my games? I paid you full price for them, and you have the balls to hide them behind a launcher that lets you remove them at your discretion, no refunds allowed? Steam was suspicious enough, but you want me to tolerate it AGAIN with Epic?
Isaiah Roberts
>Yea Forums shits on new thing >Yea Forums shits on new thing THIS NEW TURN OF EVENTS COMPLETELY ASTOUNDS ME. HOW COULD THIS POSSIBLY HAPPEN?
Dylan Murphy
>steam demands 30% of sales for using their platform >a platform which is a giant pile of shit and is almost never improved because of its monopoly and gaben being to bothered to work instead of eating himself to death
What about that isn't stealing? But please, tell me more about how I'm a chink shill.
Dominic Sanders
Is it just me, or is all the apparent "Epic-shilling" just some kind of reverse-psychology ploy to make us hate Epic even more?
>EPIC STORE IS BETTER BECAUSE DEY GIBS FREE MONEY kys nigger
Kevin Martin
>WE WANT A COMPETITOR TO STEAM SO THEIR MONOPOLY BREAKS AND THEY START MAKING THEIR PRODUCT DECENT also Yea Forums: >EPIC STORE BAD. ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS A CHINK SHILL. Holy fuck you retards are the reason why the vidya market is shit. You demand one thing than shoot yourself in the foot and go and do something that just makes things worse. You guys don't care when a game is a steam exclusive yet when epicstore does it, its all of a sudden a crime against humanity.
Steam demands 30% for their platform when they can't be bothered to make their platform better Valve has grown fat and dumb and can't even make games anymore because its more profitable to let all their devs go and scratch their balls while they print money. Steam only updates their product once every several years and its the bare minimum. Steam only listens to their users when enough of them get angry and then its always the bare fucking minimum.
Is epic store perfect? Fuck no. Its product is currently worse than steam. But if you fuckers keep boycotting for no other reason than you are to busy choking on gaben's dick then we will never have a good competitor against steam.
But go ahead and call me a chink shill. Here I'll go ahead and get the circlejerk started for you retards: Tiananmen Square 1989 1989年天安门广场
Leo Howard
great blog
Camden Foster
That Yea Forums guy sure has some contradictory opinions
Parker Davis
Imagine how shitty of a store you gotta be to instantly become the industry's most hated within a night.
Luis Gray
Is someone seriously trying to make this a copypasta?
>different people have different opinions, and are loud at different times >Yea Forums is not a hivemind of one thought What the fuck???
Jonathan Ward
>Steam demands 30% for their platform when they can't be bothered to make their platform better
Dont spout this like you give a shit you fucking moron. No one gives a shit about this but devs, kys. You couldnt be more obviously shilling this garbage storefront.
Michael Morris
>>WE WANT A COMPETITOR TO STEAM SO THEIR MONOPOLY BREAKS AND THEY START MAKING THEIR PRODUCT DECENT >also Yea Forums: >>EPIC STORE BAD. ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS A CHINK SHILL
Yea Forums is one person? No wait, you're just a fucking idiot.
Oliver Smith
1 barrel of gutter oil has been deposited in front of your commieblock, now fuck off bugman
i would much rather give my money to boomer gabe "pay the modders" newell than those zoomer catering fortnite retards
Thomas Stewart
unironically based
Brayden Fisher
>a platform which is a giant pile of shit and is almost never improved because of its monopoly and gaben being to bothered to work instead of eating himself to death this entire fucking sentence man, holy shit, care to elaborate on how steam isn't improving? because its been consistently doing so for years, it's easily the most complete platform for everybody outside of GOG's free drm games besides i've never called you a chink or insulted you such insecurity
Jose Sullivan
No one said Steam is shit other than a few spammers (you)
Thomas Reed
Wanting something better than Valve does not mean we would like something that's worse than Valve in every single way.
Cooper Johnson
>le everyone on Yea Forums hated Steam > all those steam sale threads and steam profile threads for a decade on this site were fake nah fuck off. Steam and GoG only
Charles Phillips
>these shills pretending Steam doesn't have a fuckload of competition and pretending Yea Forums doesn't love GOG for being a great service Fuck right off bugmen, your chink store sucks and is only making my life worse by locking down games into their spyware launcher and making games more expensive for me since the regional pricing is garbage.
Dylan Ramirez
>Game gets paid to be exclusive on Epic >No longer remotely interested in saving it Damn, Epic sure does think of their consumer first. They're saving me money left and right by not wanting to buy these games. Thanks Epic!
imagine thinking epic's store is competition for steam. discord, epic, gog, none of them are direct competitors to valve and none of them will have the library or features to pull people away from the stranglehold of time and investment steam has on them.
reminder that all of this lolbertarian vs. bootlicker conversation is paid for by epic because any publicity is good publicity and if you're taking part in it you are even below shills and amoebas as life forms.
Owen Bailey
>>competition forces two companies to start competing for users by improving their product Ideally. It works in some markets. For example, TVs are dirt cheap because of so much competition, and any smartphone was $1000 at one time, and now you can get one that does everything for $100. But it doesn't apply to everything, rarely to products that aren't physical. Netflix, Hulu, Amazon video, etc. they'll buy exclusive rights to your favorite show, now consumers need to pay for multiple services to get the same things they had instead of just paying for one. If there was a little less competition, you'd be paying more for Netflix, but still less than paying for three or more streaming services. The way Epic Games is driving competition is also anti-consumer. There's no subscription fee for game launchers, but we're already seeing bullshit like no third party key sites, meaning Epic Game Store games are effectively at a more premium price since you can't buy it for ~20% off.
Lucas Price
do you know what competition is? I do hate steam or any form of mandatory shitty launcher but at least steam has more to it that just being a shitty launcher and a store
Carter Edwards
Leave it alone Chang.
Carson Adams
Revisionist cunt. >le Yea Forums le hated le Steam!
Yeah ok. That's why we made Gabe a huge birthday card and a group went to deliver it to him personally when he turned 50, right?
>and when has steam ever put the customer first? Can't tell if you're a retarded chink or a master-craft troll
Blake Brooks
>Steam is shit Not really, it's not perfect yet but very convenient.
>valve doesn't even make games anymore Never absolutely needed their games.
>We need a competitor While that's always true, we already had a shit ton of launchers and stores from other game companies, and it was always just a hassle anyway. I would also never want to have a game not featured on steam just because a store gives them fortnite money to make it exclusive. Exclusives are pretty cancer.
>have to use 10 different programs if I want to play a few games
Brandon Lopez
Yea Forums has always been a huge supporter of Gabe and Valve.
I forget the website but you know that one that looked into how indie devs feel about Steam? All of them think the cut off point for what shouldn't be on Steam is just below thier game Steam doesn have a lot of shite put on it these days but thats much preferable to how it used to be where it was hard as fuck to get on Steam >Steam demands 30% for their platform when they can't be bothered to make their platform better Yeah If only Steam put in easy version management, a way for mods to be distributed, a way to communicate directly with your consumers... oh wait Steam used to be shit, it was absolute trash when it launched. The friends list didn't work for YEARS It's a lot better and featured now obviously. Its my prefered way to buy games (only because a lot of devs dont bother to update the GoG versions of thier games) I'd rank stores like this: Steam > GoG > Origin >>>> Epic > Uplay
Jace Martin
Epic store has higher prices AND less features than steam. How is it better?
Isaac Allen
>that one time Yea Forums almost voted Gabe into the top spot in a Victoria's Secret contest
The Epic store is a pro-developer anti-consumer platform. They've literally come out and said as much, Epic throws cash at developers, lowers their take on games, and consumers get one of the worst launchers in the industry and no discount in return. When they finally implement reviews they want to allow developers to control what ones get displayed if any at all, gotta let them control that narrative!
Ayden Johnson
Honestly fuck valve these days. I'm glad artifact is probably the biggest failure in gaming history. Yes more so than 76 or anthem but NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT.
There is less than fucking 400 players playing. Probably more valve employees than that. Charging 30% is fucking insane and should only be the amount of you sell on a console.
I want valve to wake the fuck up already. It was a company I used to highly respect.
Liam Nelson
Uplay is definitely better than both Origin and Epic these days.
if epic store or steam had a subscription I'd agree with you. But they are free to use.
As for the sales, that's something steam is able to do because of how massive they are and how profitable they are. I can remember a time when seeing something 10% off on steam was considered a really good fucking deal. I can remember a time when steam didn't throw sales every other weekend.
No company thats still trying to build themselves up could do steam sales like they do.
Jeremiah Fisher
>but NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT How to tell Astroturfing Shill #3727 literally does not look at the Yea Forums catalog at any time, ever, much less read any threads.
Noah Davis
Do not respond to obvious phoneys.
Parker Sanders
I don't see how the card proves that people didn't used to hate Steam. People came round to it over time but at getting annoyed at Valve for other things as thier goodwill is dying out
Lucas Ramirez
I like epic for the simple fact that developers get more money rather than lazy ass valve. I won't mind valve taking 30% if they were a video game company.
Calling valve a video game company is fucking insulting.
Nathan Diaz
>Aww chiing chong! Use epic staw, prease! Gib us money!
Cameron Bennett
Read the reply chain dumbass, I think Steam is better than Epic still
John Long
>China stwong! Fuck 'melica! Memba how we all hate gabe? meba dat?! Dat happen! Twue! Twue!
Yea Forums is such a small section of the internet compared to the mass talking about anthem and 76. And even on Yea Forums no one barely makes a thread about. There isn't even a thread up now I bet faggot.
Go back to sucking gabes cock steam shill #56891
Dylan Harris
>Steam used to be bad so I'm going to discard all improvements made over the past years and use an objectively inferior store Kys
Samuel Anderson
>Yea Forums is such a small section of the internet compared to the mass talking about anthem and 76 >Yea Forums is such a small section of the internet
And yet Yea Forums is the only community that is constantly mentioned or featured in video games, AAA and indie alike. Wake up, tardmaxx. Only Yea Forums has ever mattered.
Bentley Allen
VALVE has literally lost 99.5% of artifact players in only 4 months. That is literally the biggest disaster in gaming history. Even tortanic maintained lots of players.
There is no fucking game in history with a multi-player focus to lose that many players this quick. The last tweet from artifact Twitter was in December.
Can you fucking retards wake up and see that valve literally made a game worse than tortanic. But Yea Forums is still filled with so many valve dick suckers they have downplayed this disaster.
Hunter Ortiz
as of right now, what purpose does the epic store server? why should i use over literally any other store?
Luis Morgan
You shouldn't Epic should be boycotted for the filthy shit they're trying to pull.
Owen Hernandez
What shit are they pulling faggot other than hurting gabes wallet?
I got free games and devs get more money. Go fuck yourself. Slime rancher is great.
John Williams
Holy shit everyone claiming what epic is doing is "competition" should be sent to the gulag
Jackson Scott
Well there's uh... publishers get more money and much of the world gets to pay more while developers never get to make another game again because theirs flopped. Isn't that great.
Chase Rodriguez
They they they they take your information!!! Just like valve does... Bu bu but they are chinks so fuck them. REEEEEEEEE GABEN MEMES LOL XD!
Charles Perry
>I got free games No you didn't, you paid for them with your privacy. If you really wanted free games you would just go to the pirate bay.
Hudson Robinson
>several years before when steam was my only option: Steam is shit, valve doesn't even make games anymore. >several years later with tons of steam games due to no competition: Epic store is filled with even more chinese drm than steam, why would I want TWO chink operators on my computer?
Thomas Lopez
Well if you don't like cloud saves it's the service for you.
Julian Diaz
Oh you're that shill again.
You know what Valve doesn't do? Lock down exclusivity. They have never done anything to steal or make sure the consumer has no ability to shop elsewhere if they want to.
You know what else Valve doesn't do? Disallow consumers from warning other consumers about shitty games.
>being able to leave a negative review for a game is seen as "toxic behavior" >forums will also not be allowed to prevent users from discussing products And that's what this is all about. Epic store is confirmed to be striving to be the most anti consumer digital marketplace in existence, but moreover a safe space for shitty devs. It exists solely to help developers and to screw over the users. The devs want to be able to get away with making terrible games or design choices and they don't want people to be allowed to warn other people about their bullshit and awful products. This is another case of the rich looking to rape the poor.
Imagine going to these lengths and underhanded methods to move shitty products instead of just making good games.
Steam is good Gog galaxy is good Uplay is good Epic is shit
It's not that other stores are trash, it's a problem with Epic's practices and security/privacy concerns.
Liam Morales
Reminder that unlike dropping $300+ on a console that these storefronts are completely free save the few GB of install size. It is one thing to fight and argue over exclusives for consoles, it's another thing to do it over pc storefronts
Evan Howard
>epic store is the first competitor to steam retard
Andrew Williams
Well if you could argue that, why don't you try
John Ward
>steals money from devs So? Devs love to rip off their consumers. Which means I don't really see your point.
You are probably the first one to white knight shit like this
