All-Time Great FPS Games

SEETHING

Where the fuck is FEAR? The first game that incorporated bullet-time to the FPS genre?

>Metroid at all
They're first person, but they're not shooters.

>no DOOM
>several halo games but only Metroid prime
>goldeneye
Your taste is absolute dog dick garbage, ya dip

>still being a PCMR redditor in 2019

Oh look, it's the braindead list autist. No wonder it's full of dogshit console garbage.

When it comes to FPS that's literally the only platform that matters.

This
It’s a shame FEAR 3 was absolute butthole
>goldeneye
Just because it was good back then doesn’t mean it hasn’t aged like milk and it does in fact say
>all-time
Ya dip

Pretty solid list for the most part. Don't agree with everything on it, but it's reasonably decent enough. Better than most "best games lists" for sure.

Wrong.

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>they literally can’t aim unless they have the precision of a mouse
>they literally never got to play local multiplayer with their friends

It’s depressing, isn’t it?

I seriously hope you aren't serious, child.

Goldeneye and Perfect dark still hold up. Nothing has aged except me in relation to your zoomer ass.

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> Everyone is the same person
Rent free, literally all of these are fucking shit except Metroid Prime

Shrieking and calling someone a child is not an argument

Why not play shooters with a wheel then you fucking gimp? Are you too much of a pussy?
>what are LAN parties
Confirmed underage.

Goldeneye, PD and Halo have better gameplay than Half Life. That's just a fact.

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Bitchboy, it's obviously you. Kill yourself out of my board already.

If you grew up eating shit no wonder you don't know any better, consolebabby.

>Not a single Wolfenstein game
Really OP, not even Return?

You are 30+ years old. Start acting like it. You've been saying the same shit over and over again since you were 15.

>He never moves his aim vertically
>Strafes left and right while barely using any actual aim

So this is a bait post right?

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True. Not sure why people would argue otherwise, unless they were limited to just one of them at the time.

>consoles killed off vertical level design and complex movement mechanics

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You're very grumpy, I'd be pissed too if I had to face the fact that HL is inferior to GE, PD and Halo while also being a PCMRfag in 2019.
>He never moves his aim vertically
Why would I aim any higher or lower than the head?

NEW = BAD
OLD = GOOD

>no Blood
>no Return to Castle Wolfenstein or Enemy Territory
>Tribes instead of Tribes 2 which improved on it in every way
>System Shock 2 when the shooting is one of the weakest parts of the game
And if you're going to include Descent it's a crime not to have Freespace on the list.
All in all, absolutely abhorrent, get out of my sight.

What great FPS's have released this decade aside from DOOM and Prey? The genre is basically dead.

Not user but DUSK was fantastic

FPBP

Why the fuck do you keep going on and on about Half-Life when I never once mentioned the game you mouthbreather?

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Tribes 2 was fucking garbage, how can anyone actually believe it was better than 1.

Of course you never mentioned it, this is your first post ITT.

I just got home you retarded faggot, I'm on my PC now.

>Just because it was good back then doesn’t mean it hasn’t aged like milk and it does in fact say
You are an actual idiot. Goldeneye was extremely innovative for the genre and introduced all kinds of gameplay mechanics games like Doom and Wolfenstein weren't even remotely close to.

It's deeper than that. Here's an incomplete list of shit console fuckers have ruined in FPS
Server Browsers
More than two weapons
Different keybinds for every action
Console commands (the irony is not lost on me)
gunplay being the most important factor
fast movement
'advanced' movement techniques (strafe jumping, bunny hopping, rocket jumping)
non-regenerating life
powerful non-weapon pick ups
and there's probably a ton of shit I'm forgetting.

In conclusion FUCK halo. It started all this bullshit. If you like halo then you don't like multiplayer fps and none of your bitch tits no skilled whining will change my mind. halo fan boys, off yourselves.

Well then I'll tell you, its because everybody overrates the shit out of Half Life over superior console shooters merely because its on their preferred platform. They act as if its some amazing game all around when the gunplay is worse than several N64 shooters, its a game that's saved by its setting and sound design.

Cool.

Unironically my nigga.

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where's timesplitters

Turok 2, Timesplitters 2 and Return to Castle Wolfenstien/Enemy Territory

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Glad we agree.

What's wrong bitchboy? I don't give a shit about Half-Life. UT is also literal dogshit other than the weapon selection.

>steamfanboy
Surprise, retarded wojack poster posted something retarded.
p.s. not an argument

cope PCMRfag

Based

You're the one seething like a complete idiot here. Sorry, turns out there's more to PC shooters than what idiots like yourself deem the gold standard.

Goldeneye is a far better game than Quake btw.

every cod game is on pc too

You can't aim on controllers either. Nobody can

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FEAR?

if golden eye didn't run like dogshit and be tethered to the N64 controller I'd be inclined to agree. It was influential, but by todays standards, its garbage

(I also just don't like Team Fortress 2 cause I've always found the guns to feel like shit, but thats me)

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7/10 I'm baited

Literally every time people post console aiming webms its Rainbow Six Siege.

>waaah don't play as oddjob because it's literally impossible to aim with a controller
LMOA

Most of the playerbase was on console. The tryhard PC 1.6 rejects were too shit to run with the big dawgz and play CS.

Rainbow Six Siege

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>All the console titles are shit
>Games intentionally stilted and slow because they couldn't make a good game with an optimized control scheme
>Two of them released for a system designed for octo armed radiation babies
>Literally no timesplitters
Dogshit, jump in a dumpsterfire

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Because it's the only AAA multiplayer shooter without Auto aim. It's the great illuminator as to how "skilled" console aiming is. Anything more impressive is literally cheating because the computer is doing it for you.

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youtu.be/wWiARIkeuII

Jesus
Fucking
Christ

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>Two of them released for a system designed for octo armed radiation babies
Is there a bigger sign of someone being a child than not knowing how to hold an N64 controller?

Close quarters counterstrike was pretty bad in all honesty
R6 gold was far better

>3 handles
>2 hands
Your parents buying the wrong console isn't my fault, user

does overwatch have auto aim?

>doom
>great
id say good but great is a stretch

>no FEAR
>no SWAT4
>no Blood

no but it does have oversized hitboxes for both projectiles and characters

Are you actually so dumb you can't comprehend that the middle handle is for 3D games and the left for 2D? Its actually a very forward thinking controller for the time, being the first to have an analog stick and a way to still play 2D games.

>Goldeneye
>greater than Perfect Dark, which was on the same fucking system
Nostalgia faggot confirmed.

/thread

thats explains the feeling i had about not even having to aim beyond the general direction

>unreal 2 :^)

Post these any time a console friend gets uppity pretending that somehow mouse aiming isn't completely necessary to actually play shooters. They'll bitch and moan about how it's somehow more skillful to introduce a handicap or that sitting at a desk is uncomfortable, but these are the words of retarded children who need computers to assist their inputs while playing video games because they're genuinely that retarded.
Yes and a significant amount. If you need to ask then you've never actually played a real video game in your life.

>Are you actually so dumb you can't comprehend that the middle handle is for 3D games and the left for 2D? Its actually a very forward thinking controller for the time, being the first to have an analog stick and a way to still play 2D games.
reminder that this came out in the same era

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It does have auto aim you're a liar

That's a character ability and not a base part of the game for everyone

It came out after the N64.

this is the most faggot thing I've ever seen
I enjoy both because I'm not a total fucking fag
bf2 on PC
Halo CE with a fucking Logitech joystick
and Halo 2 on console
only poor people choose one and pretend they have a choice and try to shit on everything else to cope

>No BioShock

>If you need to ask then you've never actually played a real video game in your life.
>Zoomer Logic

It's literally in the system settings retard
youtu.be/fUKwspgzAJg

The one without thumbsticks came out 2 years before it, then that came out less than a year after it, there's no excuse.

Only the absolute braindead plays shooters with a controller. I didn't even go into how these garbage games are streamlined, dumbed down versions because you troglodytes wouldn't be able to have fun otherwise.
Playing with a controller is bad enough.

I'm 26 fag. Console shooters are not video games, period. At least you're not playing the game if you have computer aided assistance in any part of the input.

>Console version
>Of a PC shooter
completely irrelevant

And all they did was take their controller that was derived from a SNES controller, slapped two analog sticks onto it, and created the standard future controllers would be held to. Instead of creating a three pronged monstrosity with an analog stick that destroys itself and its user's hands fairly easily

You think Halo, gears, and uncharted don't have aim assist too? How retarded are you?

both are fine
ive experienced both and had tons of fun with both
braindead people can only use PC and have no skill doing anything else
its more impressive to be skilled at both

this is seriously the most autistic thing I have ever seen

You're missing Serious Sam.

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The Playstation controller is just a SNES controller with longer handles and two extra shoulder buttons. The N64 controller is just a SNES controller with an analog stick prong in the center. How someone could be so retarded as to actually have difficulty using an N64 controller is beyond me.

How are those even relevant to blizz's TF2 clone?

>it's good because it's FUN
>I have the game aim for me so that makes you less skilled
Do you have brain problems?

>It's a snes controller but they fucked it up
well done nintendope, always innovating

Nobody has difficulty with it, its just a retarded design. Why didn't they just put the dpad and analog stick on one handle?

>I'm 26 fag
truly doubt it
.>Console shooters are not video games, period.
you got me, my question about whether a game had autoaim was clearly a disguised attempt at proving consoles the superior platform for FPS's
>At least you're not playing the game if you have computer aided assistance in any part of the input.
o-k

Its unironically an innovation and the dual shock is proof.
Why didn't Sega or Sony include an analog stick with their default controllers that generation? Hindsight is 20/20.

siege doesn't have aim assist
I have it and can run max settings on my PC but I still prefer playing it on console with my one x
controllers are more engaging to me, especially because I shoot guns in real life. The triggers will always feel better to me then playing a tactical shooter sitting down in front of a PC, that's just retarded to me
its objectively a better game on PC
but console gaming is more fun for shooters for me
no aim assist
can ACE in both
same K/D on both

>The 3rd party clone was better than the first party clone
yes, the highest tier of innovation, making a worse clone of your own product that gets outdone in a few months by a competitor

Holy shit the autism. Maybe you should try Labo, you might be a console fag afterall.

Why don't you use a controller on PC since it runs better? You could show off your mad skillz, same K/D and all.

>that moment when you actually believe using a mouse ( point and click) takes more skill then doing just as well with a controller
this is the actual state of PC mains

No seriously, what benefit is there in making a three handled controller over a two handled controller

Sega has less of an excuse, but Sony entered the industry because their partnership working on the SNES CD went sour, so they basically were just making a 32-bit CD SNES. I don't exactly expect them at that stage to think "we need a analog movement method of some kind"

Valveshit...

>that moment when some fucking underage mouthbreather thinks that gimping himself means he is more skilled

because mouse and keyboard will always be faster, its easier to do
console evens the playing field because no ones using mouse and keyboard

The fact of the matter is that the analog stick was proven to be a necessity moving forward and it was proven by the N64 controller.
Its not three handed.

>no mechwarrior 3
garbage

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World at War was the last good Call of Duty game.

I said three handled you massive retard

>no Blood
this guy browses reddit

So you are intentionally using a worse control device because you are a casual faggot. Just like every other braindead console shitter.

Hello friend

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WaW is my number 1 but i enjoyed BO1

again, I can do both
only young people talk about age
most of you faggots haven't even played halo CE or 1942 on PC and think you're superior because your mom bought you everything you want
its cooler to be good at both
that's an objective fact
you probably just can't even afford to enjoy both
which is understandable why you would be so hurt by console players actually enjoying themselves

>no DOOM
You are an idiot.

i miss the tanks

Because it was the first of its kind and they didn't think having access to the control pad was necessary when playing 3D games.

I didn't play much Halo since it was floaty casual dogshit garbage compared to other shooters at the time. I did play a lot of Battlefield though, decent game. Not a fan of vehicles.
Go be an underage fuckboy somewhere else.

But why three handles? They could put two handles and still have that mindset

that's cool that it's dodging and all but what is that like a bug or a crab with lightning all over it so you cant even see the bullets ripping in, even though they're ripping into not person but some bug robot thing? who the fuck likes this?

even if I was born the year it came out I would still be a legal adult
that just shows how uneducated you really are
educated people have everything and try everything and actually live
I feel sorry for you

Why not three handles? Its a comfortable controller.

>the only true first person shooters are pc exclusives
>console fps aren't real fps
>i-i don't care if people like halo, it feels different from quake and unreal, and nowhere near as hardcore, therefore it's not a real fps
>there's just no way console players will ever understand that only pc shooers matter

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>buying a xim4 to use with friends who only own a console
>get a constant stream of private messages from faggots calling me a cheater/hacker/mouse user

god damn gents, this is the life.

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>Goldeneye
>greater than Perfect Dark
Nobody said this you stupid idiot.

By virtue of Goldeneye even being on the list. Perfect Dark is a direct upgrade, so how can Goldeneye even be considered an All-Time Great FPS?

because with two you could access more buttons at once?

No need to, I feel sorry for retards like you who play shooters with a controller.
You can't be very well educated if you choose a controller over keyboard and mouse even though you admitted the latter is superior.

>dude let's have a bunch of old games on the list because theyare "classics" even though newer titles in the genre have more complex gameplay, more mechanics, more content, more responsive gameplay, and better visuals

every time

this sucks though, no gun trigger and the analog stick isn't where your thumb naturally is. it has two analogue sticks which is stupid because nobody wants analog walking. n64 is wasd+mouse basically except you get a gun trigger and it's awesome

Historical importance/impact. Same way Doom can be considered one of the greats even though Quake improved the formula in every way

The fact this is missing means I can debate this.

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*blocks your bait*

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Name the exact games you're talking about cuck

>n64 is wasd+mouse

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There's just the L button and control pad not accessible when using the middle prong on the N64 controller.

I can afford to play whatever I want and have fun doing it no matter what I'm playing it on
because I play games to have fun and relax from my life
that's the difference
you care about being validated through gaming skills and don't play games for casual fun
I care about validation in the real world and game for fun
I play plenty of shooters on PC faggot
most are just better on console

The Specialist had bullet time long before FEAR came out.

>no Blood
Shit list.

You're still not making a case for why three handles are a good idea

perfect dark single player sucks compared to goldeneye and the multiplayer is kind of hit and miss - bots are great but the guns sound like shit and a lot of the 'upgrade' bullshit slowed it down, clogged the screen. (huge ass reticles) usually with 3 friends to play pd or ge we'd go back to ge

>the good old I have a life argument

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>literally autoaim

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>Battlefield 3 is the last console FPS that's had a server browser
Thanks. At least I had Xbox TF2

>perfect dark single player sucks compared to goldeneye

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Crysis isn't actually good. Just the engine.

retard alert
games are for competition
against others or against the computer

>autoaim
Like always, consoleshitter.

>perfect dark single player sucks compared to goldeneye
the mission and level designs was far better in pd

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>compensating for no life and no fun and no higher education by calling people a retard over and over again
good night buddy
you have much to learn

in what way did you find it improved? dont gimme some jibber jabber about gimmicky game modes or someshit

>metroid prime is not an FPS
>multiple halo trash
>HL2
>multiple CoD shit
>goldeneye instead of turok 2
0/10 apply yourself

>you have no life
>you have no education
>I play video games to have FUN
Are you lost?

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>More than two weapons
>fast movement
>'advanced' movement techniques (strafe jumping, bunny hopping, rocket jumping)
>powerful non-weapon pick ups
>shit console fuckers have ruined in FPS
> FUCK halo. It started all this bullshit.

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You have autism.

>contributing nothing of substance

keep on user, keep on

CS does have advanced movement techniques since it's based on an id engine. Also ladder fuckery is fun.
Not the garbage source engine ones though.

CS only guilty of the two weapon limit, though.

Advanced movement mechanics in CS only exist in a very crippled state after the devs tried to disable them.

what you've shown there is a picture of graphics, not level design. This level was why i was so hyped for PD i was paying my supposed friend like $5 a picture to download pics like that for me with his internet and i was pretty much printing them out and kissing them. Then when i got to actually play the level it was just a bunch of fucking nothing and there's no fun to be had. I can open up facility in ge right now or runway and be running around capping guys having a whale of a time. or i can open this and once i'm out of the alley..uuuh there's no more level and nothing to do. you shoot annoying skinny guys that talk 5 annoying voice lines that really grate, stand in the rain uhh quit the empty fucking snippet level.

Besides the fact that it was babies first fps, I will never understand why people like Halo. So many other fps games had done more and better by the time it came out.

>FPS with amazing graphics
>no need for aiming, everything is hip fire with various accuracies (except one weapon mod)
>death animations are god-tier compared to most games
>not forced to hide behind bullshit and slowly move across the map
>character progression
>very well paced
What the fuck could you possibly say makes this game “not great”

It still has some uses in competitive play like on nuke or train.

>no Blood
>calling SS2 an FPS
>putting SS2 instead of its superior prequel

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>So many other fps games had done more and better by the time it came out.
Such as?

Well for one, it was it's own original story instead of a very poor retelling of a movie. Secondly, with voice acting it felt more engaging than Goldeneye did.

>before goldeneye was released, just about every first person shooter was a flat maze where you just kill all the enemies, get the key, go to the next room
>goldeneye introduces dynamic in-game events, stealth gameplay, unique objectives, complex enemy and NPC behavior among several other innovations
>amazing three-dimensional realistic level design unlike anything seen before: youtube.com/watch?v=o646M5zykBU
>even boasts gameplay mechanics that are way ahead of present day FPS, like shooting weapons out of enemy hands and crippling them by shooting the knees

>PC fatties: "I-IT'S NOT A REAL FPS! WHERE'S M-MUH BUNNYHOPPING? WHERE'S MY ENDLESS SUPPLY OF ENEMIES? I F-FUCKING HATE CONSOLES!"

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Blood was just a Doom ripoff, a really late one at that.

its nothing like doom other than being an FPS

fuck never mind, we want totally different things out of a game

I mean, it's all the same AI and gunplay, so the gameplay can't be the difference here.

So it has some basic aspects of the average 90's FPS, great job. It's also got shit-tier level design where it isn't sure if it wants to be a classic FPS and have actual exploration or a linear arena game and mixes the two in the dumbest way where there's really shallow dumb exploration that gets in the way of combat. And the glory kills system is repetitive as fuck, FPS combat loops already tend to be repetitive but glory kills homogenizes it even further. You're not even mentioning its truly good unique aspects that aren't utterly btfo by old school fps like very aggressive mobile enemies and ONLY projectile attacks

THIS!
Also
>No serious Sam
>No Duke
>No Shadow Warrior
>No Blood
>No NOLF
>No Enemy Territory
>No Soldier of Fortune
>No FEAR
>No Stalker (sure it's part RPG but so are SS2, and Deus Ex)
>No Dark Forces/Jedi Knight
But for some fucking reason:
>2 Battlefields
>2 Call of Duties
>3 fucking Halo games

This 100%. Too many people assume Goldeneye was just popular because it brought FPS multiplayer to consoles. It was so much more than that.

>t. haven't played it
Gameplay wise it's superior to anything else on the list.

All Rare fps games, most pc fps games.
Halo was a very limited corridor shooter. Perfect Dark alone shits all over it.

Perfect dark is slightly less satisfying in that regard. Although there's better blood and the head flick thing,
>doesn't have a gun that sounds like a gun,
>they wanted it sci-fi so the guns sound like inkjet printers. sh-sh-shiw.
>bullet impact sparks were 'upgraded' to 3d blobs but to make them visible rare made them giant so there's like pale yellow fish flying around whenever your shots hit a wall
>enemies are 2/3 the width/depth of GE enemies at the same height for some reason so rather than feeling your bullets are slamming into heavy meat your bullets might as well be chipping some skinny skelingtons bones
>reticle is huge and ugly if you use it
im mainly sour about the gun sounds
>phish
>shish

>Halo was a very limited corridor shooter.

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That's just a wide corridor.

I bought it, user. The story was terrible.

>Halo was a very limited corridor shooter
Idiot.

Make sure you play the game before exposing your stupidity next time.

>part near the end where you literally go through the same corridor for a good 45-60 mins

Meh, I liked the story in 1/Warhead, even though it was nothing remarkable.
But I wasn't talking about the story, which doesn't really impact the quality of a videogame.

Didn't the Falcon at least sound like a gun? Or the Magnum? Avenger? A few definitely did. I know most of them sounded wierd. but I'm a sucker for sci-fi, so I don't mind them, as silly as they may sound.

youtube.com/watch?v=pCSW0mPQCAs

>lacks this
Gas yourself, OP.

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Uh-oh looks like the quakefags are up from their nap. I could never imagine someone being so angry for the past 20 years over games. with halo coming to pc I can't wait to see you seeth more about your dead genre

It does if you're playing the campaign. All the alien sections were terrible though.

The 5 point CP mode was literally the closest the series got to feeling like a "real" game short of the mode they just lifted from Counterstrike, and it never came back after WaW

>Halo was a very limited corridor shooter.

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Still no. It's a videogame, not a movie. And yes, the alien parts in 1 sucked.

>like a gun
yeah but not 'sit in front of the speaker and yell YES' like even the pp7 is. they changed the audio format or something because even the magnum sounds mushy. ironically missing crispness, given the general sibilance of the arsenal

>before goldeneye was released, just about every first person shooter was a flat maze where you just kill all the enemies, get the key, go to the next room

lol stopped reading, how can someone be this much of a console pleb

>no argument
No problem. An idiot like yourself never had a chance.

did you think you were helping, attaching a 10 year old shitty youtube-compressed audio sample?

Rareware said that they intended for Goldeneye 007 to "feel like a movie" and that the entire game was designed around that goal. It was basically "the Half-Life of consoles".

Why would I argue with someone who doesn't even have basic knowledge of PC FPS like Strife and System Shock? Educate yourself, plebeian

>COD4 is on it
>Medal of Honor is on it
>HL2 is on it
>Halo worship
>Nintendo worship
aside from that it's a good list. Too bad about all those turds jammed in there

You best not be shit talking MOHAA dude

>none of them are from this decade
is there a single genre that has improved in the last 15 years?

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>like Strife and System Shock?
In other words, trash you never hear about? System Shock 1 was a game where you had to use the keyboard to rotate the camera. Yeah, I'm sure you beat that game and know all about it, moron.

Besides, I said "just about every", not "every". On top of being a braindead PC fanboy, you're also a retard who can't read.

>System Shock 1 was a game where you had to use the keyboard to rotate the camera

Just use a source port lmao. You have to play Goldeneye using a gamepad too, and unlike the SS source port setting up mouse there isn't so simple. Strife had most of the elements you talked about and games started building realistic levels as soon as the tech allowed, see Douk, it's nothing special. What a clueless console tard

Yeah I will
youtube.com/watch?v=DsaL7ECJZQs
How many layers of nostalgia do you have to be on to think this is an "all time great"?

You're going way off course you colossal idiot. We're talking about historical significance here, and there's a good reason Goldeneye is historically significant, as much as that triggers your fat ass.

>and there's a good reason Goldeneye is historically significant
Oh yes there is, because console babbys like you simply don't know any better which you're demonstrating with your list of "innovations"

The games you mentioned have no significance and nobody cares about them. Goldeneye does have significance, and you had to resort to google in a failed effort to dispel them.

You couldn't be a more bitter moron if you tries, lol. You have never played System Shock or Strife in your life.

System Shock doesn't have any significance? lmao holy shit imagine being this delusional, it was one of the primary influences for a subgenre that's still getting new games today with Deus Ex, Prey and Bioshock, along having influence on countless genres like stealth and RPG's. You have no clue what you're talking about which isn't surprising, devs bank on clueless retards like you lapping up basic things as innovations

Where's FEAR?

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Literally all you people do is nonsensically insult each other with pure asumption about age and platform
>my favorite game was such and such
>go fucking kill yourself you useless zoomer! Get fucked by so and so.