Hollow Knight Thread

Pharloom is a silly name

perhaps elder hu is her master

it is. honestly it's shit compared to hollownest

That's because the Pale King is based and wyrmpilled.

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SAY IT WITH ME LADS

M Y L A 2 . 0

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CUTE

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>Hollownest is a nest that is hollow
>Pharloom is far and looming
WHAT DOES IT MEAN

It's Hallownest, not Hollownest. Pharloom probably comes from "loom" because of silk and stuff.

If we don't get an Iselda fight I'm going to be mad

Pharloom? My god what a stupid name. No wonder Pale King's propaganda was Hallownest is the only civilization if other kingdoms were names were so dumb

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>Pharloom uses pins as traditional weapons instead of nails
What a bunch of poofters. The nail is a real man's weapon. If these guys ever went to war with Hallownest they'd get smoked.

Does this bug have ANYTHING to do with Grimm? It has to be right?
>red
>theatre and the arts
>flamboyant as fuck

CUTE!

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He doesn't. Why the fuck do people keep thinking this?

And the trailer had Nightmare...particles drifting around during their introduction. Maybe this guy is another god? Pale King and the Queen were both gods of soul, so it's possible.

So it just occurred to me. Hornet has silk as part of her moveset, attached to her needle. That and her mother is a spider, so it's obvious she's part spider. But is she also part whatever type of bug the pure vessel/king is?

Yes. She's half Pale Being, half Weaver.

Yeah, I guess so. She doesn't have void powers, like the vessels, but I guess she is part Wyrm.

These fanarts are so nice.

Time to share this video again
youtube.com/watch?v=GdHskxJrSnw

>each member of the clan also hones a Craft-skill

So aside from notCornifer we'll also need to hunt for her other clan member to make notCharms.

Nah, apparently Hornet has enough personality to make they're own upgrades.

Yeah we're going to craft shit. And we learn crafting from them.

>team cherry posts fanart from twitter
they've almost definitely stumbled across porn of their characters, i feel bad now

They've seen Hornet porn ever since the game first came out.

William made a joke that he wouldn't let Ari google fanart of their caracters because he knew what he would find. I'm honestly more amused by the fact that some of the twitter links they posted come from artists who do a LOT of yaoi/BL shit of Grimm/Pure Vessel.

Female character are warriors.
Male characters are faggots, losers and comedic reliefs.
The game is SJW trash.

Female insects are almost always the ones on top.

Except beetles, which Hallownest was apparently comprised primarily of.

>using SJW in a sentence unironically

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>bowed back to Grimm during my first attempt
>second attempt I attacked him straight away

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> bowing like a little bitch
Slap the fucking faggot with your dreamnail twice, stab him in the kidney, abyss shriek, dash to a corner, jump and shade soul.

>all the featured artists are japanese

Gooks and chinks too.

I wonder why they never chose any western artist?

6 outta 10 are trash Tumblr/DeviantArt tier.

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For a first time player of the Grimm Troupe, do I complete the ritual or help accordion guy end it?

>actively looking to get outraged
You've become what you claim to hate.

Choose whatever you feel is right. You no longer miss on the boss fight if you banish, so the only gameplay difference is the charm you get in the end.

Are the red things supposed to be his eyes?

If you complete the ritual gives you have to fight one of the hardest bosses in the game and you get an upgraded Grimmchild. If you help the accordion guy you don't fight the boss, and you get a charm that sometimes nullifies damage and also Brumm will stay in Dirtmouth and play the accordion. Even if you help Brumm, you can still fight the super hard boss in Godhome.

>You've become what you claim to hate
When I do it, it's tragic in a poetic way, when they do it, turn up the gas valve.

lying on a morning dew is absolutely disgusting, even for warm blooded

>still no release date

I'm trying to real heard to see with your logic but I dont get anything. It's really weak bait. But have a (you) just incase

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Eyelashes

Next year

Gib release date or gtfo

>We’re right now working double-hard to make Hornet’s big adventure the giant, sprawling, surprising journey, you deserve.
>working double-hard
>the giant, sprawling, surprising
Yeah i'm thinking we will get to explore a reworked hallownest + the new kingdom

> – with the sequel fast coming together
>For the immediate future that means our full focus is on getting Hollow Knight: Silksong ready for you all.
Soon

Or have a femdom fetish

You don't, you have simply bought into libcuck brainwashing aimed at making you subservient to women. Reclaim your masculinity, you sissy faggot.

Guys, I'm stuck on Watcher Knight.

Kill me.

youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

Just walk away and come back with upgrades, you fucking retard. Having shit reactions is exusable, being dense isn't.

I don't know what to get. I'm trying not to Wiki things...

Is Watcher's Spire the last place on the map you haven't explored? If no, go somewhere else. Did you get something that can be useful in the fight there? Go retry. Repeat.

Back to the Ancient Basin, I guess.

I'm manly, strong women are still hot.

>died to NKG because I bumped into him during his flame pillar

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Aw yeah, my bugs, I did it! It was honestly a great pleasure fighting him.

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Uh actually, what exactly was the "Ritual" anyway?

collect the flames of a ruined kingdom to feed grimmchild, kill actual Grimm, now the heart of Grimm was passed down to grimmchild and will continue to live on for another cycle

So now that little dude following me is Grimm himself? Also is he a bug or a bat?

He'll grow up to be the next Grimm, yes
Who knows, maybe both

How long can Grimm live for that he can afford to wait for kingdoms to fall and be called over to rebirth himself without dying of old age first?

Judging by the world of HK, there are a lot of fucked places.

I like it, save for the ph. Farloom would have been fine.

okay but are we going to figure out what the fuck was up with the godmaster ending, since there's not a chance in hell that isn't canon with the way that ended

>there's not a chance in hell that isn't canon
Delusional.

>that collector's edition
Fucking amazing

No, I'm saving money for new monitor

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Might have something to do with how Asian artists seem to be the only ones who want to actually emulate the art style.

How do you get the godmaster ending?

Nigger, come on. Final shot is a major focus on Hornet followed by a Hornet-related cliffhanger, then the very next thing they announce is a sequel starring Hornet. It's canon.
youtu.be/WEWWOeoQWcs

The other endings don't have the Hornet cliffhanger because back when they were made Silksong wasn't in production.
Being rewarded with a sequel tease for completing a challenge doesn't mean the ending is canon.
I can also come with at least 2 convincing reasons why the dlc ending won't be canon, but it's still speculation either way.

>The other endings don't have the Hornet cliffhanger because back when they were made Silksong wasn't in production.
Then why not edit the Hornet tease into the ending of the other best ending, like the Mushroom, you stupid fuck?

>they literally hid the fact that it was a sequel for two fucking years

Holy shit.

SEETHING

Thicc

Hopefully as based as Cornifer and Iselda

Based

Gonna die

Joke boss

>Gonna die
Only if you fuck up their escort mission
>Joke boss
We saw them in the trailer. They're also NPCs that you escort.

>Escort mission
God fucking damn it.

I've done it lads

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Kind of burnt out of Hollow Knight after beating Hollow Knight.
Gotta get back at some point and fight all the hidden bosses and shit, I suppose.

DON'T CRY BABY

How did you do the no charm binding for the fifth pantheon?
That's the only one I'm missing and the collector makes me eat shit every time

The cyclone slash works surprisingly well in his fight. It hits everything around, you get a lot of range, and the slight damage increase one-hits the little enemies.

Can't wait to see Hornet going full gay for either Lace or Shakra. Or probably both of them at the same time for maximum degeneracy.

Just watch the ending in youtube, it's not worth it.

>you're already gay

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I noticed that most people don't really use the Nail skills. Are they not normally worth the hassle?

Quickslash outdamages them. In those few fights where you can only get one hit at a time, spells outdamage them.

Oh man I never saw it that way before... fuck. Another game down the drain I presume.

I beat the bosses but I cannot be bothered to finish godmaster.
It becomes such a jarring difference from the general gameflow and difficulty that I'm just pissed off more than engaged

>Keeping a secret like that for 2 years is crazy tough!
This means that they made the Godmaster ending like that for a reason because they already knew that it was going to be a sequel way before that DLC was made.

Do you lads think we'll have a really super secret boss fight where either face the Lord of Shades or the Knight?

>With our heads down building Hollow Knight’s sister-sequel, HK’s birthday whipped past us!
>sister-sequel

>and a fantastic place for us to find ourselves – with the sequel fast coming together, and the original game now available on all major platforms.
>the sequel fast coming together

PREQUEL FAGS BTFOOOOOO
including me

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From the scub diary:

Dear Diary,
I finally got the pure nail, all grubs, unbreakable charms, half of kingsoul (queen).
1300 essence. 97% completion.

I need at least 500 essence to awake my dream nail but so far I can't beat any more dream boss left, I will try with ghost warriors, I have Markoth and the one in deepnest left.

Also I can't fucking beat Grimm base form, even if I know any counter to him. I'm very bad.

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I noticed that if you smack Grimm while he's bowing, he'll immediately use that one move where he blows up and rains fireballs down on you. If you have the right setup, you can cheese through this shit by just spamming Abyss Shriek at him, tanking through hits, until he falls. It's a shit move, but if you're desperate, that's one tactic.

Doesn't work at all for Nightmare King Grimm, though. Actually need to git gud for that one. But yeah, more than a few "normal" bosses can be beaten just by spamming Abyss Shriek.

I made new webms

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I wish I could be good as you, scrub user. You're so much further than me.

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When they say sequel, they probably just mean in terms of game chronology, not necessarily the story. It could be either/or and I wouldn't really care. The story and lore has never really been the draw for me.

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Seer is so cute for a granny.

also reposting some webms from last week

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i got bored of HK pretty fast. Baba is You just does the genre so much better and anyone who disagrees is a manchild.

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PLEB is YOU
FUN is KNIGHT

>Trail of the Fool only rewards useless (in lategame) geo

wtf

I know right, you'd have to be a fool to that

cope harder. HK is easy as fuck and baba actually had challenge

I mean, it's called "Trial of the Fool" for a reason.

>he bought hollow knight and didnt pirate it
shit taste faggot get a good action game lik kingdom hearts 3

this is the weirdest and most misplaced bait ive seen in some time

I did pirate the game,
I don't know how you could derive I paid for it by my post

thanks for the bump I guess.

Don't even use that wonderful game to troll you fucking mouthbreather.

t. Barry

>WAA WAAA
>STOP SAYING HOLLOW KNIGHT IS BAD EVEN THOUGH ITS A RIPOFF OF KH3
>WAAA

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COPE

Alive. Hardcore tsundere.
Alive.
Alive but probably insane.
100% fucking dead.
Dead as fuck but his mount stays alive.

So how big is Team Cherry's kill count going to be for this game Yea Forums?

not as good as KH3

It looks like it's gonna be a less dark and dreary game than Hollow Knight. Unless it's all a ruse and Pharloom is actually the worst kingdom ever and everyone dies.

Iselda has some fierce competition for ft bottomed girl

When grim needs new flames, he sends out bugs far and wide to find dead kingdoms. From the fact the he is quite "young" but the bug sent to hallownest is dead for a long time, there are tons of places he could go to, ans it seems he took a stop already before coming to HN

>he paid 59.99 for a glorified baba is you ripoff
BAAASED GAAANG

If Pharloom is alive and it has lots of NPCs then that just means much more expendables to kill off.

>its okay that i buy kids games because im a fag

She is Hunter Queen Carmelitia

Reminds me of Isma's silhouette.

Maybe, but Hallownest is basically a dead kingdom. The majority of the enemies you fight are former residence driven mad by the infection. So it's still kinda worse.

play kh3 PLEASE PLAY KH3 PLEASE ITS SO GOOD PLEASEPPELEASE IPLAY OING DOM HEARTS 3 PLEASE

I don't think there are many differences between delicate flower godmaster ending and the standard true one.
Radiance gets devoured/sealed in both.
The Knight now in control of the void fucks off in both (becoming a god is kinda irrelevant).

Those hooded guys are probably all mind controlled Radiance-style

>How long can Grimm live for that he can afford to wait for kingdoms to fall and be called over to rebirth himself without dying of old age first?
he's a literal god (of Nightmares)
he doesn't really "die", he just need to do the ritual to be born anew, like a phoenix

Why does that one guy want to end the ritual? From what I can see, there's no significant consequence to it other than the flame bearers I have to kill, and even then they seem to want it.

>>Why does that one guy want to end the ritual?
for the same reason you want to leave Yea Forums but can't

It gives him an erection?

Because all the members of the troupe are slaves to the ritual and he no longer wants to be part of it. He also hypothesizes that even Grimm may be an unwilling part of it.

>Pharloom
Yeah, not feeling the name.

PLEASE BUY KINGDOM HEARTS 3 PLEAEE I NEDD YOU TO BUY IY ILL DO ANYTHING ITS ONLY 79.99 IM GOING TO SPAM EVERY THREAD YOU FAGGOTS MAKE UNTIL YOU PLAY IT

To be free, he also says that Grimm is also prisoner of the Heart of Grimm

>Also I can't fucking beat Grimm base form, even if I know any counter to him. I'm very bad.
Gid gub, meant in a friendly way.
Grimm is by far the best boss in the game to fight, all of his attacks are easy to dodge once you learn how.

>Dream No More
Godseeker is alive and has no reason to stay in Hallownest (both Radiance and PK are gone). I.e. she fuck of to the new kingdom (the sequel will obviously have the godseeker mode or equivalent).
Hollow Knight is gone.
>Delicate Flower
Godseeker is dead.
Hollow Knight is alive.

so she's this game's hornet

>>Grimm is by far the best boss in the game to fight, all of his attacks are easy to dodge once you learn how.

I get very good Mantis Lords vibes from him,
as in I understand it needs to be treated as a dance and I need to get into the rhythm,
but I need way more practice.

I especially fuck up my jump height both to dash forward to him when bats
and when he makes the bullet hell.

Music is 10/10 Dracula Kino, it beat the Mantis Lords music for me as best in game.

shame the fetch quest to unlock Grimm is shit, uninspired, and poor thought

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Because Brumm is a massive faggot that took a deal with the devil.

I repeat, the Grimm Troupe is fine.

Yes, time for some y/u/ri

>Hollow Knight is gone
He's just off screen.

You're supposed to activate Grimm Troupe really early on and treat it as a massive adventure where the flames tease places you haven't even been to yet.

>>You're supposed to activate Grimm Troupe really early on

my fault really since I thought wall jump was not enough to get back to king's basin, as the ledge was a bit forward and I had bad timing at the time so I gave up.

Also this is not an excuse for those who had completed the game when Grimm Troupe dlc came out.
Face it, if not for kino boss it would be shit.

Even if you activate it as early as possible you're gonna have to go back to areas you've already been to

or could it just be

>main character is (aestethically) male
>the important characters you encounter are mostly male

>main character is female
>the important characters you encounter are mostly female

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They wouldn't have hidden it behind two missable fake walls if that was their intention, lmao.

Casual reminder that anyone praising Mantis Lords or Grimm is a shitter who wants effortless and completely predictable fights they can do on autopilot to feel better about not being able to beat bosses that actually require adapting on the fly.

Get Sharp Shadow, a longer dash helps.
It's also free damage when you dash into him to dodge.

funny you say that
since these "easy" bosses are the only one in game you cannot facetank with blue masks and spamming quickslash

t. beat all bossses likes this
adapting my ass

Most of them seem to be enjoying it, though. Grimm, for his own part, seems to love putting on a show.

>Get Sharp Shadow, a longer dash helps.
I have all charms

I tried, but for some reason I took damage when dashing and hitting exactly ON him instead of through him.
seemed buggy as it worked with anyone else

That fucking pic never fails to crack me up.

You can beat base Grimm like that, though. Not NKG, of course, but still.

Isma... I miss you....

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No more than IRL wagecucks are slaves to society. Divine is having a blast of a time in the troupe for example.

>>You can beat base Grimm like that,
you cannot since he does the ball bullet hell at 75%, 50% and 25% hell and you need to be gud to survive.

the dudes in the background are puppets

Friendly reminder that the voice singing the lyrics in City of Tears is the butterfly singer from the spa

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No, just vessels for the flame.

We are not certain for sure. She does give those vibes, but this could just be the case our rival is a true antagonist in the story.

I mean, you are not wrong, but the game is good so i dont mind much.

>you need to be gud to survive
Literally just go to a corner and jump when you see a bullet flying low. Truly a fucking "hell". Thanks for further proving that grimmfags are shitters, though.

Friendly reminder that Lurien and the Watcher are connected
Friendly reminder that Hornet is not VOID
Friendly reminder that the Pale King isn't dead

No, really, you can definitely cheese base Grimm. Smack him while he's bowing and he'll immediately do the bullet hell move. If you have the right charm setup, you can tank the bullets and keep using Abyss Shriek over and over until you win. Again, you can't do this with NKG meaning you actually have to git gud for that, but base Grimm can definitely be beaten with pure, mindless brute force.

>Friendly reminder that Lurien and the Watcher are connected
You mean the Collector? Lurien is the watcher.

>If you have the right charm setup, you can tank the bullets and keep using Abyss Shriek over and over until you win.
if you have three full vessels of soul,
shaman stone and abyss shriek, (and stewart shell not to die)

you cannot mathematically do enough damage to kill him before running out of soul.

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God i fucking suck at this game. I keep thinking that i can keep bouncing on enemies and shit with the down slash. I blame shovel knight and duck tales. Also i keep getting lost and i got stuck on soul master for a long while. I will buy that Wanderer Journal tho

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>Lurien and the Watcher are connected
... You mean Lurien the Watcher and the Watcher, Lurien?

Yes, of course.

>I keep thinking that i can keep bouncing on enemies and shit with the down slash. I blame shovel knight and duck tales.
but you CAN

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How long is this game now with all updates combined?

>How long is this game now with all updates combined?
30 hours if you are gud

over 50 if playing blind

awesome, thanks user.

But you have to input the command again

>white lady
>hornet
>herrah
>mantis village
>the fucking radience (aka - final boss)
>3 of the pale king's knight (one male being comedic relief and the other with no lore)
The guys like their important female characters and MIGHT be SJW trash, but i never felt it reflected badly or was TOO forced on HK, so i didnt mind.

If they try to force a lesbian romance on Hornet though i will be annoyed though. Lesbian out of nowhere is THE trope for lazy uninspired sjw pandering (korra, adventure time, the last of us, etc...)

Thorns?

100% would fucking buy
Also Hornet Figures when?

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20-30 hours for the normal end.
+10-15 more hours for the true end and full 100% completion of the base game.
+45-120 more hours for true autistic completion.

That's what Grubsong's for. I've literally tested this, user, I know what I'm talking about. This method actually works. Shaman Stone, Spell Twister, Stalwart Shell, Lifeblood Core, Grubsong. This will give you barely the necessary amount of masks and firepower to win.

>Friendly reminder that Hornet is not VOID
Well, yeah. We all know this. Hornet wasn't created via the same method as the vessels. She's a cuckchild.

>Friendly reminder that the Pale King isn't dead
Say wha?

1 main soul vessel = 99 soul
3 accessory soul vessels = 3x33 = 99 soul
total: 198 soul

1 Abyss Shriek cost = 33 soul
Total: 6 shrieks
damage with shaman stone: 120

total: 6 x 120 = 720

Grimm health:
800 / 800 / 800 / 930 / 1000

(Nail 0/1/2/3/4)

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Please dont casualize exploring please dont casualize exploring please dont casualize exploring please dont casualize exploring please dont casualize exploring please dont casualize exploring

>Shaman Stone, Spell Twister, Stalwart Shell, Lifeblood Core, Grubsong.

I think you tested in Godhome my friend.

You need to waste 2 notches in game for the grimmchild charm, so even overcharmed (which would kill you faster lol) you cannot equip all those

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>Try going overchamed against Grimm
>He takes Grimmchild away but I'm still overcharmed

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They already added a quest board. Shit's fucked.

>Please dont casualize
OH NON ONONONONO

get ready to fetch 100 herbs

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Oh, right. Well no, I did test it out on base Grimm during the ritual. And I definitely managed to win with this method. I don't actually have a save file where I can give it another go at the moment, but I absolutely definitely managed to beat Grimm via cheesing. My second save file was done this way.

Did you drop the chandelier?

>people struggling against Nightmare Grimm
Unironicaly cute.
Never give up, hornet believes in you!!!

I can believe you, skeptically, only if you had a shit nail and his life was still 800

What does this have to do with casualizing the map?

>but for some reason I took damage when dashing and hitting exactly ON him instead of through him
That's how it should be.
You're immune to damage just during the dash animation.

Its not a bug, pun all intended. Grim's hotbox, especially when he's attacking, is very unforgiving. That paired with him retreating can really throw you out of balance, so i would not recommend dashing in general. What i did was long nail + mark of pride or grubsong to hit as far as possible, and mark of strength for 1 hits or quick slash for spam. The rest is just you getting used to his attacks and able to dodge them instinctively

Spell Twister, user.
total SOUL: 198
1 Abyss Shriek cost (with Spell Twister): 24 SOUL
198/24 = 8 Abyss shrieks and some leftover soul.
Total damage: 8*120 = 960

Nope. At the time, I didn't actually know about that so I had a Pure Nail for the fight.

I just googled it and it looks like other people found similar methods.
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1347923886

>Spell Twister, user.
I need to do the math on notches to see if it fits.

I would still feel guilty and defeated if I cheese him.

No she doesn't. She doesn't even like you.

Dreams and Nightmares were split at one point.
Grimm troupe succs all the lingering nightmares of dead kingdoms and condenses them all into the troupe leader via grimm child.
You slay the king of nightmares (Everything else from this point is speculation on my part) which then puts those nightmares to rest.
The current troupe leader is sacrificed in the process as the manifestation of said nightmares, and the grimmchild takes their place once they grow strong enough.

Grimm is a Vampire Moth.

>remembering attack patterns and move accordingly
Vs
>facetank with joni's and quick slash
Adapt my ass

>Grimm is a Vampire Moth
t. your retarded headcanon

Grimm seems like a reasonably nice guy. He's not even really hurting anyone. I mean, except you, but only if you agree to fight him.

I really love how he's like a love letter to Castlevania's Dracula too.

>calculating like some sort of nerd

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expecially since HK is a better game than SotN

Don't say that. I mean, I agree, but I love SotN too.

Sir please do the needful and delet this, sir

Those are big thighs for a bug.

I want to believe that the Knight is still alive in some capacity.

>still alive
>still
he hasn't been for a long time

He's definitely one of my favorite "Dracula" fights so far. If he had even more moves and the fire pillar attacks wasn't so easy, he'd honestly be my favorite Dracula.

But alas, the best Dracula is still this one: youtube.com/watch?v=ryBMJIDCaZA

>Instruction manual
Fucking BASED

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I'm a fucking pleb, any tips on how to deal with flying enemies that shoot shit? specially the aspids on the Colosseum. At least bosses have patterns

Shade soul.
Nail arts.

I’ll protect this most important cymbal in my drum set.

1 nail art hit will kill them (except for whirlwind). For trials, youve gotta remember when and where they are spawning so you can remove them asap from battle

mark of pride is essential in any trial

I love how everyone is in agreement that Sherma is going to die. The devs have truly broken people's spirits.

>The devs have truly broken people's spirits.

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Is the consensus that he's dead? I thought he became the unifying will of the Void.

I don't think he's going to die unless you get him killed during his escort quest

Thanks bois, I only got 2 of the nail arts and none of the upgrades mentioned yet, time to explore

Dunno. In the Godseeker endings, he seems to lose that will and become something else.

So we all know Hallownest means "Holy/Sacred Nest" but what the fuck does Pharloom mean?

The loom is obvious but what about phar? Distant Loom?

>sudoku on Zote
I wanted to as well

>The loom is obvious but what about phar? Distant Loom?
ye

you never see Hornet in her private moments so it's impossible to determine her sexual orientation. There's no reason she can't be an ardent rug muncher or be taking all the knife dick she can get

B-b-but Grimm is the perfectly designed boss, you are just a joni+quickslash shitter, n-n-no, how can this be happening to me, bros.

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stop shilling this garbage game faggot

kek tell me you just made that Grimmjack

Same.

That's still him, but stronger.

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I did.

based

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The way he manhandles the Godseeker and envelops everything in void seems a bit odd, though. Unless he always held that sort of malevolence.

Only works if you hit Grimm when he's in his swarm form though

Cap this post Yea Forums.

You just know Team Cherry added this guy to make speedrunners look like heartless cunts when they choose to not save him resulting in his death.

stop attributing will to the ghost

it's just shaped void with a mask, he has no will, he's just void

he's a black hole, he just consumes all he can

protip when you get upgrades it says "consumed the X"

I'm a black hole

Power corrupts people.

Why did he stop when touching the delicate flower then?

Which isn't exactly difficult. Also, you can enter his fight with full SOUL if you're fighting him regularly

>Why did he stop when touching the delicate flower then?
gay propaganda

user read the world casual and went full autistic, just ignore them

He was stopped. The Flower destroys VOID.

don't think any of the siblings were alive to begin with user

It's just a flower, it has no power to stop a god.

Oh fuck lads they updated that press kit they released with the ant milf.

How do you feel about Queen Carmelita and why is she without a doubt going to be the best bug in Silksong?

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thicc

>Why did he stop when touching the delicate flower then?
because it would be infected by gay

Big bug badonkadonk

People live when they are dead.

Think of it as rock paper scissors. VOID > Higher Being > Pale Flower > VOID

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different user, but the white lady flat largely implies that the flower fucks up all void-related things.
>to hold it so close, one must be unaware of its true nature...

>Ant Queen
>needs a big butt and wide hips to keep giving birth

SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

best bug
>looks to be beaten in the 2nd area of the map
>doesn't look to get any repeat appearances

but he's part of the dedicated quest system isn't he. I'm sure as the quests go on with the same characters a narrative will form but I doubt it'll end with death

>ant queen
>can walk
dropped

Bugfags will defend this.

youtube.com/watch?v=MHoRiFq3ekw
How does it feel being complete fucking cucks?

Also, fuck you, you're wrong

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if the bugs are bugsized, how fucking small are lumaflys?

also why do we sometimes see bats/birds flying off in the foreground?

this game scale is fucking retarded
>inb4 just turn off your brain bro

are you the same user who recorded this?

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Why Dream Wielder over thorns?

Dream Wielder is the most underrated charm of all time.

>Why Dream Wielder over thorns?
it was to prove that the charm notch you get after grimm is "unused"

Sure but it did absolutely nothing there.

>if the bugs are bugsized, how fucking small are lumaflys?
We don't actually know if they are bug-sized. Considering the size of the droplets in the City of Tears (or something) they're actually human sized.
>also why do we sometimes see bats/birds flying off in the foreground?
Those are also bugs, usually vengeflies.
Nah.
It was supposed to be a stand-in for the SOUL you'd have going into Grimm's regular non-Godhome fight. You can actually hit him twice with the Dream nail, but I didn't include it in this webm.

He makes it look easy, but you can tell he knows this fight in and out.

Oh right, makes sense.

>using 11 notches when you get the 11th notch after fighting Grimm, rendering this trick useless
Ayy lmao

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My dude those droplets in City of Tears are fucking huge. These bugs aren't mansized.

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>dream wielder
read yourself again and weep

You wouldn't need Dream Wielder in the original fight because you'd most likely be going in with full soul.

>if the bugs are bugsized, how fucking small are lumaflys?
Bugs have different sizes.
>also why do we sometimes see bats/birds flying off in the foreground?
They're also bugs.

>Bugs have different sizes.
physics can't allow something as small as a lumafly to fly if the ghost is around 3cm (1 inch)

I can't not see the moustache.

Maybe not mansized, but they could easily be a foot tall or something. Why would they have bones otherwise?

Gnats seem to disagree with your post.

They don't have bones, only shelly exoskeletons.

you realize a lumafly is small enough to be the lamp of a mining beetle like Myla, right?

So? It's one lumafly in a lamplight.

a gnat would be like 15 times its size

They literally do. There's a gruz mother skeleton made up of a spine with ribs in Mato's house.

They could be something similar to fairy flies. They could easily fit into their lamps, and they can fly.

Okay for the sake of brevity let's just say the bugs are this size upwards which would mean gnat sized lumafly's can be used as lamplights.

>genderbent Grimm
Oh no.

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That's a development oversight or maybe a special podium to hold up the Gruz Mother head.

Oh YES.

Grimm is faggot pandering, making him a woman is counterproductive.

I always thought Grimm looked like a girl, the chainsmoker voice is what's there to say it isn't a girl.

>White King
>Male Mantis are generally stronger than the female ones
>The hive while ruled by a female, certainly didnt claim her to be strong.
>Nailmasters
>Quirrel

There is definitely a lack of Female Comedic relief characters though, like almost all of them are male.

>would
you can

I agree. The first thing I thought of when I saw him is that it was a woman but then he spoke.

In retrospect it should have been obvious that he was notDracula.

What do you mean? There's Cloth the troll and Bretta the backstabbing whore.

I mean, I'd still prefer Grimm had been a girl.

I can't manage the platforming necessary to get the Crystal Heart. I keep hitting a laser then falling on a flipped platform and it goes on until I'm back on the bench

Millibelle too

You can hit the flipped platform to bounce back up, and flip the platform back around.

Kek
I feel you bro.

Get grubsong and you can heal because when you get hit you get soul

Does Emilitia count?

>he was actually screaming out his name in the trailer
B A S E D

Hopefully he's not a fag and just a really fabulous motherfucker.

Lmao. No. And the Hunter looking like a fucking skeleton, pelvis included, is a "development oversight" too?

He's a faggot 100%. Men don't naturally act like that.

Bretta is 100% a parody of really shitty fangirls.

Why do people think he's connected to Grimm again? That's a red herring if I've ever seen one.

Well if he is a fag hopefully he's Freddy Mercury-tier instead.

You can't fight the yuripandering Yea Forums. Either that or Hornet does some /ss/ with Sherma but nobody wants that right?

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So, does Shakra have anything to do with Elder "Disappears And Spawns Rings Five Times In A Row" Hu?

Post memes

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No fuck off with your yuri and shota fag shit. Hornet's gonna find a nice chad bug and have an offspring to be a good mommy actually being there unlike her mother Herrah.

Because in Hollow Knight the color red was almost exclusively used by Grimm, both Grimm and Trobbio are flamboyant, and they both have a theater theme.

Bug Don Quixote

I didn't kill her.
I just left the room.

Okay.

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Maybe I'm late to the show, but I just realized the homage.

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As hot as it would be I certainly hope it wont hapoen in the game. Hornet needs to have children damnit!

I never delved deep into HK's lore but now I'm curious. If the Knight is meant to be an empty husk, why did it succeed where every other sibling failed? I recall Hornet saying something about it being born of two voids but I don't think she ever expanded on that.
And what are we meant to infer about acts such as sitting with Quirrel and giving Elderbug a delicate flower? Signs of developing empathy or just non-canon tidbits?

Silksong is gonna have actual romance options so you can can choose who Hornet gets to bang

Good luck. There's like four canon gay characters in HK.

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I'm loving this resurgance of memes since godseeker, hollow knight deserves all the love.

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Pure trial and error. Every time you die, a new Knight replaces you. You then can collect all of its past experiences and money to help your cause.

Your vessel isn't really pure either after going through the game events which is why gaining the Void Charm is the much better ending because it doesn't repeat the same pointless thing of locking away in the Black Egg. Hollow Knight failed because Pale King made the mistske of treating him like a Son, evidenced by cut dream nail diologue and the Path of Pain cutscene.

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>there are people who nail the ghosts rather then let them mind their own business
>there are people who nail the glade
>there are people who nail the songstress (with the dream nail)

Good luck user, I was having some trouble at that part too, but it will be worth it

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The Void is not exactly empty.
He's an husk filled with Void, not an empty husk.

Being outside Hallownest means having your mind degrade back into following a bug's primal instincs. A true "Hollow" playthrough would only reach to the first ending and it would mean gibbing yourself completely, ignore NPCs, ignore all vendors, never talk to anybody, finish Deepnest without a lantern, etc.

Like a robot, eventually find the Dream Nail, kill the Dreamers, and replace the Hollow Knight.

I know of serval scissor sisters but I can't think of any of the dick in anus sort

>letting the ghosts pass on to the afterlife
>bad
Why do you think the dream warriors disappear once you beat them?
Putting ghosts to rest is mercy.

Nailsmith and painter.

It's literally Iselda taking the role of Cornifer.

If you watch the trailer she's voiced by the same VA too.

>acts such as sitting with Quirrel and giving Elderbug a delicate flower?
Knight is programmed to seek tools to help it with it's ultimate goal. It probably expected to get something from Elderbug and Quirrel, like it did from Grey Mourner and other questgivers.

>t. headcanon
The White Lady certainly seems to think you're empty and a perfect vessel, and she knows that you're talking to her. So unless all the higher beings in the games are braindead retards doing those things doesn't contradict being "empty".

i'm still mad they didn't let the Pure Vessel keep that bitching armor and cape

Male ants are fucking hardcore

Guess what asshat, the White Lady also thinks Dung Defender is with us when we wear the shit charm or that the knight outside is still alive. If she can't even figure out that the Hollow Knight was fucked because of the Pale King wanting to be a dad then she can't figure out if we're empty too as well.

wtf? there's literally no indication.
is it just the devs going "h-haha of course we have lgbt representation in our bug game haha"

>female character in 1990s
>ok whatever
>female characters in 2010s
>WAAAA SJW PROPAGANDA
What the hell happened to make vidya community turn into pussyfaces with eggshell ego?

Why there's an option to sit and just listen to the songstress in the pleasure house then?

Can't they just be friends? I don't think Hollow knight is that type of game.

>believing something that's been in perpetual heat for god knows how long
Also if you wear the shit charm she thinks Dung defender is in the room and that lady knight outside is still alive so you'd have to be pretty stupid to take her words as fact.

>Achievement: Happy Couple

I wonder how Team Cherry feels about all the fujos making fanart of Grimm x Hollow Knight.

Or even worse, our Knight x Grimmchild. Must feel disgusting.

This.

>Knight is programmed to seek tools to help it with it's ultimate goal.
Where the fuck are you getting this.
All the vessels were flawed.
Part of our guys flaw may be that he's curious, which is why he climbed to the top of the abyss before falling down again, and from there somehow digging his way out into the desert.

She only thinks that because she cant sense your emotions, and that you weren't raised by her and the king, she only even knows that you're there because you're her child and were a part of her once.

She's blind and when you find her she's sleeping.
As a tree she chould have been sleeping ever since her guard died and quite simply not noticed the passage of time, that tends to be common thing with tree-beings.

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Same reason. Low investment action that might lead to a favourable result. It's actually impossible to tell if something can think/feel from its actions alone, chinese room and all that.

Oh, they will be friends. Really close ones...

Hornet and her girlfriends looking for a chad bug to breed with and then dump!

>couple means romantic partners and nothing else

They probably like it.

how much Essence if you nail the Glade and if there is a boss fight how tough is it

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>Hornet needs to have children damnit!
What if she finds a kind-hearted female spider wasp that will lay eggs in her?

Can insects change sexes?

19. No real boss fight, but Revek will attack you. He's invincible until you kill every ghost in the Glade.

Hornet's not a cuck, she needs her OWN children!

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doesn't sound like it's worth it for a mere 19 essence

No, you're just gay dude

So it's like real life

>Nail a ghost for the first time trying to read their mind

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Kek, all artists and creative people are liberal, deal with it. Hollow Knight is a progressive SJW game, if you don't like it, don't play it.

Herrah seemed pleased with him either because of how well he dicked her or because the child exceeded her wildest expectations

Her brother will give her some!

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Fuck it lads I'm going to do a visual guide on how to do a full Hollow run of Hollow Knight.

Fuck off before I flower you.

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Don't worry, user. I'm on it.

what movie

The Lord of Shades wouldn't even look twice in the direction of such a jobber.
>locks herself in the Black Egg
dumb cunt

what is the lore reason behind the Hollow Knight losing his armor?

>a full Hollow run
A what now?

>Final boss fight in 'iron silk' or whatever it'll be called mode.
>It unexpectedly powers up even further, whole mountain starts shaking and one side of it bursts to reveal a giant golem.
>Suddenly hear shade lord roar as he bursts from another direction and punchs it.
>Offers hornet a hand, get a brief flashback of the first fight, the meeting in the city, the second fight and her save after the wyrm corpse collapses.
>She jumps onto his hand and from there to his forehead.
>Final boss goes full shadow of the colossus with Shade Lord and Mech fighting directly while hornet climbs up their limbs towards the pilot for the final blow.

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A cloth is more comfy for when you're gonna be sealed for all eternity.

Be a complete soulless robot whose only directive is to seal the radiance.

It's technically impossible since a truely hollow vessel would just beat its head against the black egg until it got through or pounded itself to dust.

It deteriorated over the years he spent inside the egg.
In the dream it's because they didnt animate him wearing it.

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>It deteriorated
wtf
it's clearly some shiny metal or shell

It's actually just a harness to attach chains to

But what if the bugs in Hollow Knight are actually giant and if a person were to be transferred to the world of Hallownest, they would be the ones who are bug sized?

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WHAT'S UNDER THE MASK

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He still has it on when he's chained up in the black egg temple

The fact that the Grey Mourer blinks out in the same manner makes me think otherwise.

The flowers are in Silksong too, so they will be an important point going forward.

The flowers in Silksong look completely different from the fragile flowers aside from their color

This shit is really bothering me. They forgot pic related seal on the right side of the Pure Vessel room. It's just not there.

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I wouldn't mind a /ss/ but either way I don't think Hornet is getting a romantic partner in this game.

This is good bait, I'll use it from now on.

It's time.

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You can skip city crest, killing false knight, and that one simple key if you take the trams

>She thicc
>She also sticc

My boner is so confused.

Good point but what's more hollow? Picking up a crest/key to insert somewhere or picking up a tram pass to operate the tram? I'll probably put it as an either/or option.

Why exactly does listening to NPCs imply a lack of emptiness?

I remember you from weaks ago

Well why did the original Hollow Knight become not hollow?

Reminder that Dream no More is the best ending.

The traitor lord is only stronger because he took the infection into himself.

>Well why did the original Hollow Knight become not hollow?
he sucked on white queen tiddies

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A Hollow Being would have no reason to have a “conversation” with anyone

being devoid of (free) will or emotion does not mean the ghost is a fucking dog or something

he can still have a cold, emotionless intellect of a machine.

Why not, if it furthers its goals?

Because then the gimmick of the challenge, which is forcing you to go lanternless through Deepnest with no upgrades, would be gone if you can talk to people.

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>world of bugs
>magic tree roots
Why?

>ITT: literal NPCs cannot comprehend how a void ghost would operate

oh, the irony

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wait how do you still fight dream grimm if you banish?

It still unlocks his statue in Godmaster.

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I call bullshit. You can still be hollow and get the Dream No More ending.

>The traitor lord is only stronger because he took the infection into himself
t. seething village cuck

thicc

Oh fuck you now I can't unsee it

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don't know why anyone felt they had to kill her

For variety’s sake.

She went full infection. Does defeating the Radiance heal the infected? If not, then she is doomed anyway.

Shakra seems African inspired, wheras Elder Hu seemed Chinese inspired. I don't get where people are seeing a connection.

Then you left her to a fate worse than death

If npc.colEyes = Color.Orange then Kill(npc)

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delet

what part of Shakra particularly says exclusive to Africa? They both wear bangles but other than that they are dissimilar so you could say there's a connection or you could say there isn't without it being a red herring

she wasn't fully infected given her scream. The question is which is the greater mercy to kill her whilst she still retains even the smallest vestige of self or to kill her when she is completely lost

>Shakra seems African inspired
She carries scrolls on her though, and as we all know, niggers can't read.

nah she'd just having be comfy dreams like the rest of the guys

I'm curious if Godmaster's ending has any relevance to Silksong or the other endings, or if it's just another alternate conclusion showing just what would happen if the void got too powerful and focused.

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I thought it was a mustache.

It's foreshadowing.

It's there to tell us that:
The Lord of Shades or a void-being closely resembling it can actually exist.
The Delicate Flower or perhaps other "pale" flowers can counteract the Void.

Interesting that she's among the named roster. Wonder if she'll be a longer-term rival character than a quick one-off boss fight then.

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To me the best option would be for them simply not reference any ending from Hollow Knight there any ending can be the canon one. Start the game with Hornet already captured and don't don't explain how only why

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Obligatory:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=g6oYvvwnRvs

We already saw in the trailer that we'll have two boss fights against her. She's pretty much the Hornet of Silksong.

Which means endless porn.

>what part of Shakra particularly says exclusive to Africa?
I dunno, she just kinda reminds me of Elena. She looks like she's gonna do some capoeira shit when she fights.

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I'm cool with leaving how Hallownest turned out ambiguous but I do hope that Silksong takes place afterwards.

So probably not Sealed Siblings then.

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Can someone clear something up for me? While playing, I was under the impression that the Pale King was a bug who found the Wyrm's corpse and took it's power, but I've heard others say the Wyrm simply turned into the Pale King willingly.

Reminder that Lace still hasn't been referred to by any pronouns so "she" could be a "he". Or a "xe"

Have you met Bardoon?

>Like fire, Hellfire

>I've heard others say the Wyrm simply turned into the Pale King willingly
Bardoon, Godseeker and White Lady all say stuff that supports this, so your theory was false it seems.

The later, it's directly stated he used to be a massive wyrm and that wyrms can change shape/be reborn different.

The one you smack in the butt?

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youtu.be/pFAknD_9U7c?t=53

Hornet R34 to Lace R34 is like Pearl and Marina. Marina is just a hundred times easier to lewd than Pearl due to what she wears whilst Pearl isn't immediately easy to sexualise at first glance. With Hornet the mind immediately goes to loking up her "skirt" whilst you have to get creative to lewd Lace

I wouldn't mind some post-release DLC that are just what-if scenarios where for example we play through Hallownest after Godmaster happens.

At least Lace has an actual big butt unlike Hornet who's canonically sticc.

And no, don't tell me it's just poofy shorts.

>Hornet who's canonically sticc.
who cares about canon

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>Silksong starts without any reference to what happened in Hallownest
>Play through Silksong
>Get Ending 1
>Do convoluted shit and unlock Ending 2
>Portal opens up in the boss room
>It leads to Hallownest
>Entire map is available to re-explore and it leads to answers about what happened to it after the events of the original game

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I hope the bit of Hornet playing guitar on her needle mean that we get to jam together.

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Or you know in the real world the female insects tend to be bigger and stronger than the males

r34 doesn't care about canon. Hornet will wear underwear and be curvaceous no matter what the official design looks like

As for massive buttocks do you also think she has massive spiky shoulders. It's hard to say where the outfit ends and the anatomy begins and unlike Hornet we aren't likely to see her flashing her real figure every moment so it's up to artists to maek something up

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that actually varies from species to species a lot, but when it comes to spiders the females are massive in comparison

I was like 95% sure that Cornifer would die when I played the first game, so I don't know. The game is grim but not purely grim.

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>>I was like 95% sure that Cornifer would die when I played the first game,
he only got cucked
it would have been more honorable to die

nice

what are you talking about

>how Hallownest turned out
In retrospect nothing can really be accomplished for Hallownest beyond saving a few straggling bugs and letting your big bro rest in peace.

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His wife got tired of being alone and leaves him.

no she doesn't, what head canon bullshit have you been smoking

>you return to Hallownest
>expect a Void-infested shithole
>everything is silent
>there are no more NPCs left except for the silent crittering of bugs
>the only thing you do is slowly traverse the dead kingdom and deliver a single flower to a grave
>the sword of the Hollow Knight is stabbed on the ground, and the Ghost's mask is next beside it
>youtube.com/watch?v=5ov6lzqWjmk plays

I'm hoping for a rivalry where we can actually exchange some words. Hornet doesn't really seem one for banter, but I hope Lace is.

isn't Dirtmouth the only area with sane independent minded bugs with the only other sane people you meet in Hallownest becoming so only after you've saved them or being immune to the effects of the Radiance. I think Hallownests future is to be raided and the money from that used to build Dirtmouth up.

Nearly forgot about the merchants but I think merchants should just be considered immune for gameplay reasons over lore reasons

>you get the flower from a shrub that someone lovingly planted next to the bench in Dirtmouth

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Based Elderbug

m.youtube.com/watch?v=vipL1K0aOWE

>Fuck off shill
what does shill mean in this context
do you not expect people to talk about videogames on this board

Mantis tribe take over the empty kingdom could be an interesting turn of events since they're holding it down fine still and moth free

what about the Bees or are they dying off because no more Queen

Their queen is dead and all are taken over by the radiance, they're fucked

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I played HK before any of the DLC, and I don't think I even saw all the base-game content. Now that all the DLC seems to be out I'm going to dive back in with a new game.

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>nothing can really be accomplished for Hallownest
With the plague gone the kingdom can be repopulated. All the architecture is still there.
>Female “house” or “cobweb” spiders of the family Therididae may deposit more than 200 eggs in their egg sacs; with multiple fertilizations, they may lay nine such egg parcels

The soul sanctum could take over, or the bugs of the Colosseum.

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The White Lady is still there, but I don't know if she wants anything out of the future beyond her self-imposed isolation.

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the corpse you go into to get the King's Brand is rather small given what he's implying about the size of wyrms

you'd hate what /tg/ named their setting then

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>the white lady breaks free of her binds
>nothing can stop her breeding lust
>new epidemic is some sort of god plant bug thing is spreading all over to suck every male dry of seed

this sure is a step up from Cornifer

it's kinda cronifer and iselda rolled into one character

>receives extra damage from Cyclone Slash

I think so too. Maybe it's just a small portion of a much larger body? Doesn't seem likely tho.

I always forget about her. She pumped out *thousands* of children in the process of creating the vessels, if she found a mate (does she even need one?) she could populate all of Hallownest with her own kind. No one would be able to stop her either, she's an actual fucking god.

Cornifer was a good boy.

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She wants someone to tell her what a bad girl she's been.

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>implying
Cornifer is peak dad bod.

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Yeah that's what I got as well.

>mastery of cartography
While I love the exploration of the game, it makes me laugh that buying maps in Hollow Night is just paying for the piece of paper that we're going to fill out for ourselves.

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it's not a shill it's autism

>seeking her master, who vanished under strange circumstances

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>pin, the traditional weapon of Pharloom
Getting more hints little by little that this new kingdom is going to be the homeland of the spiders.
I agree that Pharloom is an bad name.

The name Pharloom is so retarded. First, why "Phar" and not "Far"? Second, why is it called that at all? To the inhabitants it would obviously not be "phar" away. Call it Silkloom or something instead.

I like it, get fucked.

Why is it Hallow Nest? It's not Hallowed Ground anymore, call it Hollow Nest.

Literally me.

it's "phar" because the original settlers had to travel a long time before finding the place

Because it's literally a divine kingdom founded by a God.

Wholesome.

And, I assume that's how every kingdom is formed, why is HN so special? Pharloom can't be special too?

It's not special, it just has a cool name. Pharloom sounds dumb.

>No nightmare bug-mom fu

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The Wyrm's mark didn't turn the Knight into a demigod, it didn't do anything at all, so I lean toward the conclusion that it didn't turn the Pale King into a demigod either. Wyrms may have been powerful bugs, and visiting their shell does grant a mark, but the Pale King lied about what the mark meant. He claimed the mark was proof he is a god reborn because it's his excuse to claim leadership. Bardoon repeats that bit of history but does not appear to have made direct contact with Wyrm or the Pale King to confirm it. Hornet, however, can be seen in the Wyrm graveyard and she taunts the Knight to get the mark and claim himself as king. Her words are subtle mockery. She knows it won't make the Knight a god and that it didn't made the Pale King a god either.

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Fuck off fag, Grimm is fine as is.

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>why
Why not?

same here, I actually wanted to fuck him at first

and now I still want but I have to say no gay first

The Pale King already was a god, idiot. A god who took on mortal form.

He managed to overthrow Radiance, a literal goddess, just with the help of some hippies so it's pretty clear he was no ordinary bug.

Nah, Pharloom sounds an equal amount of cool.

He claimes to be.
>"hey everyone I'm a god, look at that fancy mark on my shell, I may be small but I'm actually a Wyrm"
only a bug brain would fall for this

If you want lore, just go watch Mossbag.