Masturbation vs. Performance

I didn't fap for like 2 years and when I finally did, afterwards it almost felt like I had a bit of alcohol. The dopamine or whatever does make you feel kind of calm and tired. I think maybe it happens to help you bond with whoever you might've had sex with, so trying to fap then immediately go and play a video game doesn't really work.

You're lonely virgins so every time you fap your brain makes you feel a little more miserable.
If you have a healthy sexual life, you can fap as much as you want, it won't affect anything

Depends. On porn, yes go ask any pro player they all know that it makes you sluggish, just like weed.
Non-porn masturbation? perfectly fine, as long as you know a reasonable limit.

Even when you have a girlfriend, if you use porn then it does affect you just like everyone else.

You must not fap until you feel like the cleavage of the corner-store cashier will make you cum if you stay in line 20 more seconds.

Having an orgasm through intercourse has the same effect. The point flew right over your head faggot.

Nope. Orgasm during sex behaves in a much more natural pathway in the brain than porn. Basically Have sex.

no fapping sucks, because once you blow your load after not doing it for weeks it hurts like hell, but stops hurting if you fap again from that point on

This is good advice. It feels better if you wait a while between faps anyway.

Also get some kind of sex toy you can thrust into, if possible. Feels more satisfying to jam your cock in when you start cumming and not pulling out until you're done compared ot fapping with your hand.

Don't use it as a total replacement for real sex with another person though, if you can help it.

It hurts because you edged yourself into producing a large amount of sperm and when you cum it doesn't all go out. The sperm doesn't "build up" like you think it does for weeks, it's a very slow and gradual process that can be forced to accelerate when you play with yourself. After a couple of weeks you start to get pressure because of the buildup but it doesn't last that long and you can basically man up and power through it without telling yourself you need to go watch porn.

that guy’s face is upside down

Never happened to me, I think you are low on testosterone.

I dont know how anyone can believe this shit. Sex is literally so much better than masturbating to porn the fact you think the latter has a negative effect on you makes you a retard. Heres a clue bud, you are just slow as a person.

no it isn't, thats team wagma leader waxie

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I can smell your virginity from here, even a handjob is radically fucking different in the way the orgasm feels.

Your point?
By this logic: Cocaine is so much better than cigarettes. Go do cocaine or you're a retard.
Sex is natural, healthy and is absolutely enough of a pleasure threshold for a non-addicted brain. Porn isn't. As long as our brains work in the way that they do it never will be.

Porn isn't bad if it's not your only sexual stimulus, if you only watch porn your brain will get fucked up. You can watch as much porn as you want if you have sex regularly, it has no effect.

I’ve literally never jerked off then proceeded to play vidya. I fap and nap

No way, I bet you think sex is only putting it in and pulling it out repeatedly.

>muh feels
the dumb brain on this dude

if u fap everyday its obvious u must have problems idiot

>Exert a pretty hefty amount of energy beating the fuck outta your dick
>Surprised when you're tired and can't perform as well

Note: don't see this and immediately start jerking off in 7 day intervals. Ejaculating at least once per day is correlated strongly with vastly, vastly lower risk for prostate and testicle cancer.

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Everyone does, this is why weebs are so shit at games

And that is where your opinion begins and empirical evidence differs. Porn is an artificial construct refined and processed like every other drug, every aspect of it was measured and quantified more than enough for this discussion to be pointless.

It’s true. If I fapped two things will happen.
>my performance suffers in games
>I do pretty good

Then again, there’s the third thing that happens.
>too tired to play anything

>feeling is dumb

No user, not feeling is a sign of a defective brain.

the sign of a defective brain is reacting differently to orgasm depending on external stimuli

Source is me and every other dude in my circles who has a girlfriend or hooks up regularly watches porn virtually every day to fap, it does nothing to any of them.
Getting obsessed or addicted to something is only possible if you have a big lack in your life that makes you want to escape, your mind will not be warped if it doesn't want to be.
Also your sources are /pol/ memes, don't think I haven't seen those "studies".

LOL, that's how I know you've never had good sex, good sex could even be called spiritual.

If only having sex was that easy.
I'm too socially stunted to even hang out with people, much less anything else.
Not that I even fap all that often anymore either.

I usually need to masturbate before playing because I'm too anxious about the possibility of losing

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>Source:my ass
Basically your entire argument. Unless you can drag all your "friends" to a lab this is meaningless. Your friends who are obviously completely honest about everything to you specifically, because you're a a master confidante and know with absolute certainty what's going on in the brain chemistry of another human being just by an exchange of words!
It is irrelevant if the target group are sheltered nerds or college prom kings, a drug is a drug, a brain is a brain, variables differ- constants stay the same, porn affects the same constats in everyone. I'm not "bought" into any cult or any following, if you're wondering. Even with a frequent sex lifestyle, "recreational" use of porn does not exist in the sense that you believe.
You can google all the lab data in 5 seconds. It's a widespread subject matter and most of the information available is credible and is used in variety of reference points even in my own backwater lab.

>spiritual
brainlet detected

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>have never had proper sex
>calls others a brainlet for discovering a path of enlightenment

LOL, sorry not sorry your existence is shit and has no meaning.

>he thinks having good sex is "a path to enlightenment"
>he doesn't know

>he doesn't know how to read

Spirituality is a path to enlightenment retard.

Dude, you talk like an addict in denial, seek help.

Only masturbate at night before going to bed. Problem solved.

It’s like the opposite for me

This, if you don't lose your energy jizzing in a woman, why the hell would your body choose to drain your energy when you jizz some place else? It makes no evolutionary sense.

>spiritual
Stop being a religious faggot

Opposite for me
My mind is sharper and full of clarity after choking the chicken

It's more than likely that later on in the day your performance suffers because you've been playing vidya non-stop. At some point you're going to get tired and you're going to get worse as a result. Has nothing to do with fapping. It's either that or you lead yourself to believe fapping hurts your performance, and as a result you psych yourself out.

I too, feel more alive after beating the bishop.

>spirituality is a path to enlightenment
yikes

yes and no
yes there is a measurable response in pleasure levels, significantly more actually, when the woman moans your name in pleasure and screams something specific to your affinity. Although according to various studies it is shown that the baseline affinity and desire is the one to procreate making " come inside me" the words any man wishes to hear during sex.
And no, because there is also data showcasing that the use of condoms prevents that release even if the woman says it. And we know for a fact and exactly for how much less that response is in the brain almost 66% less roughly when she asks you to cum inside her mouth and swallows it.
The point is there's varying degrees of "feel" here.

Religion=/=spirituality

How would you even know that? You've never lived a chaste life. It could very well be a joy to those who have abstained. None of us will ever know because we've given into lust, whether it be solitary or with another person. How can any of us truly know how happy a chaste person is?

Yes it is.

I discovered in some fighting games I would come back/git gud when I got myself hard, but did not cum, in between rounds, before matches etc

It's post-orgasm that matters though

Spirituality isn't found going balls deep in a std-ridden trap you reckless hedonist. Nothing you've written indicates you have any idea what you're talking about. Preach your tripe on youtube, im sure some pussy starved pua acolytes would fall for your nonsense.

They are very lonely but they coped themselves into being content with it most of the time. I've met celibate people from all walks of life and seen their brain perform in tests, they have better focus, willpower and perseverance overall which didn't surprise me because I always thought since you remove such a big distraction from you life you obviously get to have a lot of shit done in your life.

Even though I'm not practicing any more, I feel like I have an inherent Catholic bias still because I find attitudes like this commendable on some level.

It's a placebo. You only fool yourself into thinking there's a correlation but your bodies reaction to masturbation is very immediate and short lived.

Most of the population never experience the full extent of that cocktail, I don't remember the numbers exactly but about one third of it has awareness of just serotonin and a fraction of NE. And as such, the highest form of cognitive pleasure is still during sex.

As processions passing in the road cannot achieve anything themselves yet still obstruct others, so these men merely process through the universe, led by the pleasures of the body.

I don't know why this isn't a well known condition. I call it post-fap syndrome and its clearly a decline in physical performance for around 24 hours after fapping. I try to do it once a week now only on a day I'm going to sit inside all day.
I'm physically healthy and hike almost every day and wont fap day before an important hike

I think it's balanced around once every 7 days if I recall

It seems to only happen if you're used to doing it right before bed, or even doing it to go to sleep. As soon as I stopped doing that I'm fine whenever I do.

It's not 24 hours. It lasts until you rest up. A good mean and a nap would put you right back to normal.

How hard are you fucking fapping Jesus

>he doesn't powerfap

>I'm talking at least 50% accuracy decrease
had some of my best games post-36 hour off/on masturbation binges without sleep, so i'm not convinced

>tfw taking naps fucks with my sleep schedule

Balance depends on your own testosterone levels. It also depends on your daily dose of social interaction, physical activities, and cognitive stimuli. The leddit universal no-fap challenge is a falsehood to lead you into dismay when it does not actually help people in dire need of actual help. Unless you have a life goal or drive for your direction in life. There is only so much no-fap can do for you.

The number one tip I could give anyone is. Get off the computer.

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You guys are being really gay right now, play some video games instead of talking about how you pleasure yourself

jacking off once a week is ascended tier
all the benefits of the testosterone spike, lower chance of ED, more pleasurable climaxes since your brain isn't fried by dopamine, and you don't go insane from complete nofap

I think there's truth to performance and fapping. I heard for tough sports, you don't want to have sex or masturbate 24 hours prior so there is something to be said for T levels.

Come to /fit/ we'll help you/