Reminder that Persona 5 is the best in the series and anyone who says otherwise is a nostalgia-goggled loser

You had no argument. All you put down was memes. Keep coping.

You fail to explain how those characters are anime tropes. Those are all very different unique characters, so given your loose definition of anime tropes literally every character in the series are anime tropes.
>fuck adults
So Persona 5 was literally too deep for you

3 was better.

>Every group of friends I had ended up disbanding because of some drama between one of the boys and one of the girls

Most unrealistic thing about Persona is the fact that they're all able to stay friends for so long.

t. Played it when he was 12

t. zoom zoom

That is literally the plot of 5.

But user I love them all even the shitty spinoffs.

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t. Used the P3 characters as surrogate highschool friends and still can’t let go at the age of 30

I like how you are implying that p5 fags don't.

Whsn P6 releases, some newfag who started with thay will make this same thread and you will seethe and call him wrong

They don’t. They also aren’t washed up old people still letting their highschool surrogate friends live in their head

No because Persona 6 will likely be better unless the new director fucks it up so I will be the one making that thread.

>literally every character in the series are anime tropes
Yes. Yet P5 managed to fuck up here. I can even tell you the reason why: Makoto stole the spotlight.

>So Persona 5 was literally too deep for you
Based retard.

Delusional

Psychological projection is a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.

>you don’t like people who eat shit?
>you must secretly love eating shit!

You don't like washed up old people still letting their highschool surrogate friends live in their head? Is that the reason you created this thread and started samefagging baiting?
Also
>food analogy

>P3fags confuse shit for food
I’m not even surprised

>Replies 27
>Posters 11
What the FUCK

Bait-kin is samefagging hard.

Sorry, I forgot that you are underage. I was implying that you eat shit.

>all this P3fag cope
Yikes

>kin
So the underage phoneshitter reveals himself

It’s embarrassing

That’s normal

Yeah, pretty much.

Wrong

What about P1 and P2fags?

I assume they don’t get an internet connection from their caves.

Perfectly comfortable with not existing.

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Just like in P2

Imagine being so much of a brainlet that the extremely simple and easy to understand themes of a video game are too complex for you to handle.

>new game always good
>old game always bad

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>posting wojak
Go back

It has the best combat and visuals and the worst everything else.

t. Zoomer that played 5 first

well yeah, I played P5 first. I mean why would I waste my time with the older games when they look and play like shit?

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How can other girls ever compete with this cutie.

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Being the best out of a bunch of garbage games ain't a real achievement.
>those insanely repetitive "dungeons" where 90% of encounters are just finished with all out attacks, especially after you gain sp adhesive, only 1-2 dungeons are even close to being somewhat interesting
>that absolutely pants on head retarded story that drags itself too long and tries to cram too much people into the main team
>that shitty OST which barely allows you to listen to the best tracks but has a single unchangeable awful normal combat theme you will listen for almost 100 hours
>majority of the cast is shit and Makoto drags them all down even worse, the only exception is the Leblanc trio
I mourn all the hours i've wasted on this pile of trash. Probably even more than i did with P4 which at least had an atmosphere of a small comfy town.

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t. P3/4fag that didn’t even play the older games
I played every Persona game and most main SMT games and I still think P5 is the best

no, it's the second-best behind persona 2.

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>Being the best out of a bunch of garbage games ain't a real achievement.
>garbage games

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Persona as a series is one of the worst things that happened with the entire fucking genre.
Especially after they started adding dating sim elements which eventually corrupted even Kiseki.

>dating sim elements
You mean how you select “be my gf” instead of “don’t be my gf” in one conversation and have like 2-3 extra scenes in total? Those dating sim elements?

>this is your brain on Yea Forums

I mean the "pick you waifu" system with bonding, affinity, gifts and all the other trash related to it that should be nuked from the face of this fucking planet.

Persona x MegaMan Battle Network game when?

That literally accounts for a couple hours of content in 110+ hour game, all of which is optional and most people won’t even get all that content on their first run

That's correct

>Spinoff better than mainline
lol okay boyo

3>1>4>5>IS>EP
none of the persona games are good

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>bonding
There’s no special bonding, it’s literally the same as any other social link. Don’t be that guy and say that social links are bad user.
>affinity
No such thing as affinity for social links in Persona games
>gifts
You mean that totally optional thing where you can buy a gift and get like 1 extra line of dialogue?

It’s not a dating sim at all

I prefer P5, though I could easily see someone liking P4 more

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I played 1-4 after I played 5 and I can safely say than 2 and 3 are better than 5. I find 5 hard to revisit.

>1 is better than 4 and 5
Well your opinion is shit anyhow so who cares

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>that ranking
Good to know that people who dislike persona games have objectively bad taste.

They’re basically the same casts

>a decent dungeon crawler with gameplay isnt better than glorified VNs
at least Persona 3 gives you reasons to go into dungeons more than once every 2 in game months unlike Persona 4 and its carbon copy. The gameplay pacing in them is terrible

>25 posters
>62 posts
Yikes, OP. Someone triggered you? P5 is an OK game, but definitely not the best.
4>3>5>2>1

No wonder you don’t like persona, you’re such a contrarian faggot you forced yourself to like the worst games for Yea Forums-cred

Ready for more info about the remake soon. Loving P5D so far.

It doesn’t though, Persona 3’s dungeon and combat is piss easy. I literally died maybe 2 times in the whole game

>at least Persona 3 gives you reasons to go into dungeons more than once every 2 in game months unlike Persona 4 and its carbon copy
Both of those games give you reasons too. This is possibly the dumbest complaint I've ever seen about P4+5

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>There’s no special bonding
There's unique gifts you can give to girls to trigger unique reactions, you can choose how to progress their relationships which doesn't happen with males and there's a cringeworthy Valentine's Day event.
>No such thing as affinity for social links
The entire s-link system is based on internal score that increases with correct answers.
>You mean that totally optional thing
Just like it's optional in shitty dating sims, doesn't stop it from being viewed this way.

>EP>4>3>IS>5>1

I played PSP 1 so I maybe biased towards the shit battle theme

The battle theme was great in the PSP version though
>Random chiptune wailing is better
I don't think so but you do you

EP is fucking trash, 5 and IS were way better
Also the PS1 battle them for P1 is complete shit, the PSP one is actually good

Based truth poster.

i graduated before playing any of them and p4>p5>p3

>P5 returned guns
>made guns an absolute garbage for anything but crits and weaknesses

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Like I said, one dialogue choice of “be my gf” or “don’t be my gf”. And don’t act like the literal 1-2 lines of dialogue for unique gifts are anything important.

>The entire s-link system is based on internal score that increases with correct answers.
First of all, that applies to every social link. Second, you already said bonding, why are you saying the same thing twice? Affinity, bonding, whatever, it’s the same thing and applies to ALL links

IS is way too easy and 5 autoplays itself.

and a slow lyric filled song for a battletheme has nothing on the actual great Persona 1 ps1 theme

>Also the PS1 battle them for P1 is complete shit, the PSP one is actually good
Thank god someone else actually has taste in these threads.
In all seriousness I've gotta ask, did you play the PS1 or PSP version first? I prefer the PSP version but that's the one I started with too

Someone hasn’t made a riot gun build

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Stop, samefag

I played the PSP version but with modded PS1 music because most of the other songs fit the game better from the original soundtrack but the PSP soundtrack still has a lot of good songs

>IS is way too easy
The PSP version maybe, but the PS1 version is infamous for being difficult. PS1 Nyarly is one of the toughest final bosses
>5 autoplays itself
It certainly doesn't? Even on normal you have to pay attention. Heck, on easy it's not even that simple.

Haru and Yusuke are pretty good with guns, Haru for the splash damage and Yusuke because of how gun damage works. Ann would be the same if you could properly target hers instead of it being a random spread.

>Both of those games give you reasons too.
Not him, but I disagree. P4 and 5 discourage doing anything but improving social stats or doing SLs. There is never a time where going back into dungeons/Mementos is preferable to those two, especially early game. In P3 the night slot were pretty sparse with Social Links, you only had 3 stats and would only lose one time slot.

I prefer most of the changes over the PS1 soundtrack, personally. Songs like the overworld theme were just better there overall to me
youtube.com/watch?v=bn9S5rfAom0

>riot gun with the THREE (3) abilities that boost crit chance and the 50% and 25% gun damage buffs, plus charge
Its like cheating

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That’s one of the better Persona songs but I prefer the original soundtrack because it fits the game better. Something like that would have fit in better in P3 P4 or P5

Yeah I played PSP IS since its the only official translation. So maybe thats why.

As for P5, that game is hella easy, I constantly just robbed demons and all out attacked them. No deveation from the strategy except for bosses. Im pretty sure you had to actively try to fail at negotation too.

>Not him, but I disagree.
I don't see how you could possibly disagree. Both games do give you direct and clear motivations for entering the other world. P4's entire premise is that people are being thrown into the TV and dying. How is that NOT a reason to go inside and save them? And with P5, heck the entire premise of the game is about the Phantom Thieves dealing with these criminals.
Heck even in this post you didn't even address the actual point hardly at all
>P4 and 5 discourage doing anything but improving social stats or doing SLs.
P4 and P5 take time to tell you directly that you shouldn't speed through the dungeons and should take your time and build social links. Like, literally they tell you this. And in P5 the dungeons even vanish when you're done.

5 is the easiest in series. Dude that I know finished it, he died only in first palace. It was his first JRPG (he was PC guy) and he was playing on normal.

>Something like that would have fit in better in P3 P4 or P5
Absolutely not. The only point it would have fit any of those games is MAYBE in the end of P3/P5 when the whole world is fucked up

>It's the easiest
>My friend who was playing on normal just died once
>Trust me he's like, really not good at JRPGs
WOW WHAT A SCOOP

>Both games do give you direct and clear motivations for entering the other world
But not >more than once every 2 in game months. That's the whole point. Outside of the story you should never go into dungeons, except maybe if you finally gathered enough Confidant Mementos mission like once between each dungeon.

>P4 and P5 take time to tell you directly that you shouldn't speed through the dungeons and should take your time and build social links.
You'll lose out on other content if you leave dungeons early. I get that you don't need to finish dungeons the moment they are available, but if you're in one you better only leave when the story kicks you out.

Not once, he was stuck in first palace for some time. But after Kamoshida he was unstoppable. Bosses are piss easy and save points are everywhere.

>Bosses are piss easy
I miss the days of wiping hard in Tartarus to a guardian. Whatever happened to the overwhelming bosses that could wreck your shit in one turn? Looking at you Sleeping Table

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Of course. It has best girl

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>But not >more than once every 2 in game months. That's the whole point.
First of all that's moving the goalposts, and second I like how P3 has a clear and defined reason for entering the metaverse while P4+P5 doesn't, even though in P3 it's just "explore that weird place" and no plot happens for practically most of the game.
Seriously, "That's the entire point?" you just made that point up, fuck off.
>You'll lose out on other content if you leave dungeons early. I get that you don't need to finish dungeons the moment they are available, but if you're in one you better only leave when the story kicks you out.
The story only ever kicks you out of 2 palaces in the game. And I don't know how P4+P5 discourages you from building social stats when you can't even give an example of this

Persona 3 was way easier than Persona 5

How the FUCK do you pronounce Megidolaon

Is it Megidola-on?
Is it Megidolon?
Is it Megidolaon?

Fucking how, explain how 3 u

Don’t reply to such obvious bait

>First of all that's moving the goalposts
That was literally the fucking argument you illiterate dip.

>Persona 5 is easier than P5
>Actually I think P3 is easier
>WTF DUDE I'm gonna need some evidence, I don't need to show any myself my friend thought P3 was easy
My buddy played P3 and thought it was easier than P5, sorry

I literally only died 2-3 times in the whole game. I beat the final boss on my first try believe it or not. Literally git gud

>There is never a time where going back into dungeons/Mementos is preferable to those two (P4), especially early game.
Was the exact line we were talking about. Try actually reading you moron

>Persona series will now be even more casualised
Can’t wait for new SMT info

You used a walkthrough then. There's no way you could've prepared for the random bullshit they throw at you. For example, you had no way of knowing about that faggot that drains everything except pierce

Hey dumbass, Mementos exists

What are they then, fag?

>First of all that's moving the goalposts
That was the initial argument the other user made. You even quoted it It seems like you're missing the point so let me explain it to you. In P3 you can go into Tartarus whenever you feel like without losing out too much because there is less stuff to do in the evenings. In P4+5 you should never go dungeon crawling between dungeons because they are so packed with stats to increase and SLs to miss out on. Worst of all you'll lose 2 time slots for a bit of dungeon crawling fun except if you maxed Kawakami.

> don't know how P4+P5 discourages you from building social stats
Never even said that. I said P4+5 discourage going into dungeons outside of the story because you'll lose out on other stuff.

>those two (P4)
I was talking about improving social stats/links

>I played every Persona game and most main SMT games and I still think P5 is the best

>Persona 5, where most of your time is spent watching movies
>best "game"

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P3 is by far the worst. Not being able to choose team members to play was fucking retarded and back fucking wards.

The cast wasn't all that great either besides
Aigis and Junpei, the characters were wack too. FeMc was cute, but that's it.

>In P4+5 you should never go dungeon crawling between dungeons because they are so packed with stats to increase and SLs to miss out on.
See you're immediately retarded because Mementos is a thing, it's even required for most social links, and you get some of the best gear from it.
>Worst of all you'll lose 2 time slots for a bit of dungeon crawling fun except if you maxed Kawakami.
Yeah and to MAX Kawakami you need to go to a dungeon in between dungeons! WOW!
Seriously, you're so stupid

Read yourself idiot because the original point was two posts before that in the conversation chain.
>at least Persona 3 gives you reasons to go into dungeons more than once every 2 in game months unlike Persona 4 and its carbon copy

Already addressed, mouthbreather.

Look at the picture he posted and stop typing embarrassing shit.

Societal pressures stifling individual happiness is bad and society should be rehabilitated. Just a bit more nuanced than "fuck adults."

>Be an adult
>Play a game where they tell your kind to piss off

>I'm gonna ignore what you said because it's pointing out my hypocrisy
Why don't you actually respond to the meat of my post you little bitch

Have you even checked those videos? It shows like every line of dialogue and cutscene. As in, it shows them in palaces, fighting bosses, doing side stuff, talking to confidants, etc. Basically the entire game except trimming down the fat. Don't be stupid and imply it's just 45 hours of cutscenes

I didn't use a guide, it was easy on its own

I loved p3/4 and I hated p5 on release so I decided to go back and play through p3 and p4 (not golden) to see what good persona games look like
In terms of gameplay p5 is absolutely better in nearly every regard, granted that's a really fucking low bar. Why the fuck do people like these games? There are so many baffling decisions and easily fixable mistakes it's genuinely astounding

>hur pokemon has shit problems too
it's just a reaction image calm yourself

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>be an adult
>be so dumb that a teen fantasy game's themes go completely over your head

Point out *one* enemy in P5 as challenging as the sleeping table or "drain everything except pierce" boss

one of the best games made period, I will not hear otherwise

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It's literally impossible for you to know what's coming. No way you'd be prepared for the random sleeping table or jotun cunt who is immune to everything except pierce. And the final boss isn't even hard, you just go lucky that he didn't charm your healer.

Male cast was the best in P3.
P5 cast is Makoto: the game.

>Mementos is a thing
Already addressed it. You go there once between dungeons when you're maxed out on missions and have no other Confidants to advance. Going in there for one or two missions is a waste of time, same as for gear. You;re also suddenly ignoring P4 in all of this.

this

That's because I shit on the final boss with buffs before he could do anything in that phase

Based

Why the fuck are you wasting your time feeding him (You)?

>Point out one enemy that is, in my opinion, as good as this other enemy
You're just literally doing it again user

Dude, you're the one that's saying P5 doesn't count when you have to come up with a fucking list of specific reason why Mementos doesn't count. And in P4, they specifically have side missions from people in town to get you to go back to the dungeons.

the difference between mementos missions and p4 side missions is that you can do p4 side missions on the same day you clear a dungeon

>It doesn't count because you don't go there for sidequests as often as I'd like
Boy that seems like a super arbitrary reason to say Mementos doesn't count. Hmmm.

No, you can't. A lot of of the side missions are only available once you finish a dungeon in fact. It's specifically the opposite.
Also the dungeons in P4 have the optional bosses

>That ending

OH NONONONO

>And in P4, they specifically have side missions from people in town to get you to go back to the dungeons.
You optimally do them on main dungeon days.

>P5 doesn't count
I'm saying the system in P5 encourages delaying going into dungeons as long as possible.

Again, you do this stuff in one go before you finish the next dungeon run. You go into the TV world, do your side quests, do the optional bosses, do the current main dungeon and then leave.

>thinks P3 is so hard that anyone who had an easy time is baiting
I knew zoomers were bad at games but I didn't know they were THIS bad

Read the fucking conversation chain you drooling neckbeards, the point is that you only need to go into Mementos once every other month at most.

You fucking retard you can go into old dungeons when you're discovering new ones
>kanjis bathhouse unlocks
>side quests for yukikos castle unlock the same day
>collect side quests
>complete them and kill the side boss on the same day you do the bathhouse

Persona 5 is the only one I’ve played but the story and dialogue is pretty immature for people that are supposed to be 18. Everything is “those evil adults”

Chihaya redefines the concept of being underrated. Good on you, user.

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So what you're saying is you didn't understand the simple story and themes of an immature game

best story will always be 3, but for everything else, yeah i agree

Ryuji is not "everything"

>You optimally do them on main dungeon days.
That's fine, but I dunno how P3's system is supposed to be better when you can bumrush the entire dungeon in a night or two. Because that's what I'd always do. I don't get how this is inferior when it seems like the same.
>I'm saying the system in P5 encourages delaying going into dungeons as long as possible.
How? If you beat a dungeon day 1 it's also fine.
>Again, you do this stuff in one go before you finish the next dungeon run. You go into the TV world, do your side quests, do the optional bosses, do the current main dungeon and then leave.
I really don't get how P3 is superior at all in this manner. Especially because later on as you get more party members you can always beat the current block of Tartarus in a day.

I would go P5=P4>P3

I consider P4, Catherine and P5 as a sort of loose trilogy that explores similar ideas.

I did enjoy P3 a lot but the story is too animesque and lacking the social commentary that even 2 had.

Same with Tartarus though. How is this a way in which P3 is better?
>Just spend one day defeating the previous secret boss and finishing up the entire dungeon
So just spend 8 hours in the dungeon got it

>best story will always be 3
You mean 2.

2's was disjointed and EP isn't as good as some people claim.

>so just spend 8 hours in the dungeon got it
as opposed to 4 hours on each visit for separate in game days? Yes you fucking monkey. P5 Palaces are designed to be done in a single visit too (barring two exceptions)

sure i can go with that

>P5 Palaces are designed to be done in a single visit too
They're literally designed to be done in 2 visits

there are only 2 that require multiple visits

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>robo nazis
>best story
Underage pls.

Literally (and I mean literally) all of them require 2 visits. Some require 3.

t. didn't play the fucking game

Social links ARE bad.

>Beat the palace
>Leave and send a calling card
>Go back
No I think you didn't you brainlet

>but the story is too animesque and lacking the social commentary that even 2 had.
When did being too anime and not focusing on social commentary become an issue? Persona is/was more about psychology combined with esotoric aesthetics.

Go fuck yourself zoomer. OG PS1 soundtrack is five million times better

Tartarus is garbage.
>boring as fuck
>easy as fuck with unlimited free full heals
>easy to rush, but then the game forces you to go back because Liz wanted some stupid item or some dumbass NPCs got lost in it

>he thinks the calling card days count
Yeah I bet you think the full moon bosses in p3 count as a visit to tartarus too

The game fucked up giving the player too many SP recovery options without a fatigue mechanic to counterbalance, but it's obvious they designed the palaces intending the player to take their time instead of bumrushing them in one go. Shido's especially.

>The calling card days don't count because I said so
You go back to the palace, you're able to craft more infiltration tools in the meantime, and it's a SECOND VISIT TO THE PALACE.
The full moon bosses don't count for P3 because you can't freely wander the palace like you can with P5. Brainlet.

>implying you fight all bosses inside tartarsauce
Stop watching let's plays and play the fucking games.

You do not spend time clearing the dungeon on the calling card visit. You walk in, you fight the boss, you walk out. The dungeon has already been cleared before you fight the boss

how could you even write something like this

>You do not spend time clearing the dungeon on the calling card visit.
You can if you want to, user
>You walk in, you fight the boss, you walk out.
You know that you literally can run around and fight regular enemies, grab chests you missed and such right?
>The dungeon has already been cleared before you fight the boss
Oh shit you didn't know. It's cool man, but try not acting like you know what's up when you clearly don't

Only for hardcore people who know to focus on that right away. I imagine the majority of newer players needed several trips into a palace to complete it due to SP limitations, it's not easy to replenish unless you focus on that early. And why would you? There's plenty of time to do it, and still get good links, not everyone is a min/max one shot.

>visit tartarus
>use checkpoint to get to the boss directly
It doesn't count as clearing the dungeon in 2 days gays XD

The simple reason is that I can go into Tartarus if I want to do something other than Social Links because there are days where I won't lose out. Even if you already finished the current block, you can just go there and have some mindless dungeon crawling, farming, Persona raising, whatever. That's not the case in P4 and P5. In those games there are these huge blocks of gameplay where you're doing nothing but dungeon crawling followed by blocks where you do nothing but social sim stuff.

>How?
Because going into Mementos with x missions is wasting time when you could have had x+1 missions by doing another Confidant rank. You wait as long as possible before going Mementos. Why are you ignoring the time management aspect in all of this? It's literally half the game.

Can. you CAN
The idea behind the calling card day is "we've got everything we need, we're ready to steal the treasure and leave"
You CAN go back and get things you missed but you're describing palaces as if you haven't gotten to the end of the dungeon on the calling card day which is LITERALLY impossible

Who the fuck said you had to come back on a second day to do tartarus bosses?
>walk into tartarus
>get to boss
>kill boss
>boss is now dead
>get to end of segment where there is no boss and you cannot progress until later
>segment is over in a single day

That just shows that P3 has terrible pacing.
>whole weeks where there's nothing to do but visit tartarus or grind stats

Going in completely new and completely blind with 5 being my first Persona game, I only needed multiple days for Kamoshida's. Everything after that was easy given that Madarame's forces a break halfway through and the amount of SP recovery was insane after Madarame's even without a guide.

>Who the fuck said you had to come back on a second day to do tartarus bosses?
It doesn't count as a second visit according to you though. I mean, you only fight the boss!

Yup, I literally got my Thor up to 99 in most stats from the mall arcade because there was NOTHING to do in the endgame. Good times.

Or do Social Links. I'm not saying that P3's system is perfect, I'm saying that they didn't improve on it and made it worse with P4 and consequently P5. And don't get me started on those weeks waiting for Futaba to wake up followed by beach trip, followed by Hawaii trip where you just grind you Confidants.

>That's not the case in P4 and P5. In those games there are these huge blocks of gameplay where you're doing nothing but dungeon crawling followed by blocks where you do nothing but social sim stuff.
This is such a silly complaint. You're not forced to do nothing but social sim stuff in P4 or P5. You can always enter the dungeons to do stuff other than Social Links. It just seems like most of the P4+5 complaints hold up exactly true for P3 as well. Also how exactly do you know how to to Tartrus without missing out? If you go to the dungeon on the wrong days you can TOTALLY fuck up your social calendar by missing out on a late-night phone call.
>Because going into Mementos with x missions is wasting time when you could have had x+1 missions by doing another Confidant rank.
By the end of P5 there's like 15-18 free days if you do everything right. There's absolutely nothing wrong with going sooner than that for Mementos.
>You wait as long as possible before going Mementos. Why are you ignoring the time management aspect in all of this?
Oh but user, what if I wanna "go into Mementos if I want to do something other than Social Links"? That seems perfectly reasonable, right?

>knowing how to manage sp makes you hardcore
>literally items on a vendor in p5 to restore sp
You didn't even read the first comment. I was comparing the day spent killing full moon bosses to the calling card. the bosses in tartarus can be killed in a single day with no breaks, where the full moon bosses have a day dedicated to fighting them as do calling cards. You're supposed to finish the block of tartarus/palace in one day, and then another day is dedicated solely to the boss fight.
CLEARING THE ACTUAL DUNGEON IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN A SINGLE DAY IN ALL DUNGEONS IN ALL PERSONA GAMES BARRING THE ONES WHERE YOU ARE FORCED TO LEAVE LIKE MADARAME AND SAE
The day you are forced to kill the boss does not count as a day clearing the dungeon, as the dungeon has already been cleared before fighting the boss

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I wish. The game's pacing is so bad at times that there are not even social links available.
To make things worse you can't even climb tartarus because there's a magic wall blocking your progress and Sees seems perfectly okay with that. Oh well, there's a wall, time to go home and fuck around until a boss pops up.

>You're supposed
Nice opinion you have there. Almost as good as the 'it doesn't count as a second visit because you only fight the boss' one.

I played them all back to back.

The objective answer:

P3 > P5 > P4

>knowing how to manage sp makes you hardcore
>literally items on a vendor in p5 to restore sp
Not to mention you can just go physical for dungeon battles, HP is much easier to restore than SP

True.

P3 would only be better than P5 if it got a modern day remake. It really could use a tune up in graphics, gameplay, S links, and tartarus.

Also, it would help P3 to get rid of the random pointless RNG for inheriting skills and copying skill cards

> If you go to the dungeon on the wrong days you can TOTALLY fuck up your social calendar by missing out on a late-night phone call.
Yeah and the point is in the other games it's always the wrong day. That's the point. You're almost always wasting time going into dungeons and the games clearly show that.
>By the end of P5 there's like 15-18 free days if you do everything right.
I'm talking no guides here. You won't finish everything going in blind, but you will learn early that doing Mementos whenever you want is a bad idea if you want to go for all Confidants.
>Oh but user, what if I wanna "go into Mementos if I want to do something other than Social Links"? That seems perfectly reasonable, right?
Not if you want to manage your time properly.

*the weeb answer
P3's is a an awful game with terrible gameplay.

Remake P3 in P5's engine and add in FES/Portable's content without making it a glorified visual novel and it'll blow P5 out of the fucking water.

I admire P5 for its gameplay and technical improvements but the story and writing was so goddamn shit at points.

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If you want to 100% the games in a single run you absolutely have to do the dungeons in the smallest window of time allowed due to the way social links are paced
>b-but you end up with 18 free days at the end of p5!
Yeah, assuming you go all in one visit and don't fuck up slinks early.

They also need to add a decent villain and flesh out some of the characters.
Strega is a joke and its members are non-characters.
Tartarus is also a glorified final boss stage full of nothing.

>having any hope for the Persona series now that this fuck is in charge

Reminder that his GOTY was unironically Fortnite.

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>SMT Battle Royale
I'd play it desu

>Yeah and the point is in the other games it's always the wrong day. That's the point.
No it's not. Why is every day a bad day in P5 to go to mementos? You haven't even explained that
>I'm talking no guides here. You won't finish everything going in blind, but you will learn early that doing Mementos whenever you want is a bad idea if you want to go for all Confidants.
I did all the Confidants blind AND finished off the Mementos requests. And I'd complete them when I had around 3 or so. Seriously, as long as you're not dumb this isn't rocket surgery user
>Not if you want to manage your time properly.
Maybe you're just really bad at time management, user

>Yeah, assuming you go all in one visit and don't fuck up slinks early.
And if you do there's literally 18 extra days to catch up. That's the point. Duh.

Never ever
The game is inherently shit and atlus is not going to waste its time doing that because it won’t sell

>P3 fans once again ignore the horrible pacing issues in their game
It wasn't the VN stuff that bore the game down, kid.

I love Fuuka !

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>Pick a persona
>Fight in real time with skills
>Stats directly translate to strength, HP, speed, etc
>Killing someone else lets you absorb or fuse with them quickly, taking whatever skills and items you want from them, also a chance to copy one of their element resistances/nulls
>At the end, it'll come down to 2 endgame personas like Yoshitsune and Odin who have perfectly tuned skills and resistances

I'd play it

>gameplay, S links, and tartarus

All literally fine. I guess being able to have characters you maxed out randomly do an all-out attack would be a nice addition, but literally nothing wrong with the indirect commands.

But a modern remake would easily make it a 10/10 game instead of just a 9/10 game.

>WAAAHHH WHY CANT I CONTROL MY CHARACTERS WAAAAAAH

Kys, pleb.

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Let's assume you took an extra day to clear out every dungeon because DUH MULTIPLE DAYSSSS.
That's 7 days off right there.
Then lets assume you go into mementos every time you get 3 missions like stated in There are 26 missions, so that's 9 more days gone
You are already down to 2 free days to finish up all the social links you missed events for because "i-its not supposed to be done in one day" which you cannot do

>Why is every day a bad day in P5 to go to mementos?
Because you most likely wasted two time slots that could have been more productively used for Social Stats and/or Confidants.
>I did all the Confidants blind AND finished off the Mementos requests
Congratulations, I did so too. I didn't however accomplish it by going into Mementos whenever I was bored of Confidants.
>And I'd complete them when I had around 3 or so
So you're saying you could have wasted 3 days on Mementos in a 100+ hour game. Doesn't really prove your point.
>Maybe you're just really bad at time management, user
What happened to the other 12 days? Didn't manage your time properly? Now imagine if you fucked up and that one visit to Mementos 10 hours in fucked up that last Confidant. If you want to properly manage your time going in BLIND you don't do Mementos or leave dungeons except when you have no other choice.

And some SLinks are only on certain days, so if you miss one twice, that can easily push it out of possibility, even without as many days as you've taken. Plus overlap, and spreadsheeting to plan your days, etc. Not something casual, for sure.

>he thinks the only gameplay flaw is the tactics system
Oh you sweet summer child

P3fags are pure cancer and I hope Atlus never remakes their shit game

>awful normal combat theme
The other complaints I could see, but this?
No. Fuck you, last surprise was great and it never got old.

Explain to me how a system that is only a mild inconvenience at best is "fun"
>Oh I have to switch everyone to knock down at the beginning of every fight. Such amazing innovative gameplay I fucking love my clunky shittier P4.

Don’t worry, they’ll be eternally seething port beggars just like switchfags. Whenever they make a thread talking about a remake remember to dash their hopes with NEVER EVER
Also there’s no chance they’ll ever get it since the original P3 sold terribly, worse than P1

>3 was better.

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It never got old except after the 5th battle
I got so sick of it that I went to the ps store and bought the samurai costume DLC so that I could listen to an actually good random battle theme
Vocals will never ever be good for music you're supposed to hear over and over.

Honestly if each pull of the trigger from a gun did the same damage as 1 melee attack it would make the guns viable and give you a reason to spare the boolets on enemies that just won't die, or shit you cant find the weakness to.

Fuck Futaba

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I will always love my wife

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>Vocals will never ever be good for music you're supposed to hear over and over
So you hate literally every Persona battle theme except for 2 and PS1 P1?

It was fucking horrendous and there's something seriously wrong with you if you can whistand 100 hours of THAT.
Any good JRPG understands how important the music is for the gameplay, a good chunk of even more low-budget JRPGs have multiple normal combat themes, but apparently P5 doesn't understand this.

>Dying to Grand Magus
How?

Gameplay: 5 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 4
Story: 3 > 2 > 5 > 1 > 4
Characters: 3 > 5 > 2 > 1 > 4
Dungeons: 5 > 2 > 1 > 3 > 4
Music: 5 > 3> 2 > 1 > 4
Final boss: 1 = 3 > 5 > 2 > 4
Waifus: 5 = 3 > 2 > 1 > 4
Overall: 3 > 5 > 2 > 1 > 4

Casino > Pyramid > Castle > Bank > Museum > Ship > Factory

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>soundtrack is widely praised
>"NUH UH ALL OF YOU ARE DUMB"
Maybe it is you who is the one that has problems.

inb4 the stock contrarian response of "hurr popular =/= good"

>well this is a pretty good opini-
>casino above anything but factory and ship
And discarded

>gameplay
>2 better than anything
yikes

It's pretty cute that you can't even form a coherent response and already devolve to screeching about contrarians.
Very fitting for people considering P5's ost worth shit, and especially music design.

Last Surpise never gets old though. If you wanna listen to a shitty battle theme then play P1 psp and Vinalla P4.

This

>vinilla
based esl shitting up threads with bad opinions

It’s massive improvement compared to P1, yeah you’d spend a lot of time just spamming Fusion Spells.

>>soundtrack is widely praised

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>inform person that they are about to walk off a cliff
>they walk off the cliff anyway and blame you for it
You only have yourself to blame

ESL is broken English not misspelling words you fucking newfag.

I don't know this might seem weird but nothing in P4 annoyed me as much as the Space Port or the Mouse Maze or some of the stuff in the Bank or the "wait for Futaba to wake up" part. Also I don't like how a lot of the Social Links are resolved through Mementos, Hifumi's being an especially bad case.

esl literally means english second language

>Liking music is reddit

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In 2 you can just autobattle through literally everything

>idiotic analogies
As expected.
Make a food analogy next.

>nothing in P4 annoyed me as much as the Space Port or the Mouse Maze
You seem to be forgetting this.

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No, but claiming something is good because it's popular is

Liking shitty acid jazz is.

Go away Adachi

>Last Surpise never gets old
It gets old before you're even done with the first dungeon.

This.

the real issue here is that every persona game is basically this shallow. you can't have a friend simulator and then not dedicate the same amount of funds to the writing team as a visual novel would

I quite like some of the music in P5, but I don't know how anyone can bear that nigger style singing.

Please post more pasta's that point out how terrible the writing in Atlus games is.

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>Junpei holds Chidori in his arms as she lays dying
>"No this isn't happening" he shouts in anguish. "There's no reason for me to go on."
>"What...what am I fighting foaaarrrrggg!?"
>Then he goes Super Saiyan and hurts a guy immune to fire with a fire spell and everyone lets him and his friend go even though they could easily stop them
Reminder this is what P3fags consider "amazing writing"

B-but P4/P5 they deflect as usual. Nobody defends Nanako's revival, nobody defends the Morgana runs away arc. Yet P3 will defend Ikutsuki's asspull betrayal and other plot contrivances until the cows come home.

Based.

If you insist
>restaurant is popular and always busy with unanimous praise for the taste of the food
>slobbering neckbeard whinges that everyone else is wrong and the food actually tastes like shit
>starts crying as everyone in the restaurant laughs at him
Happy now?

>Persona 5 was my first intro to the series
>Playing P4 Golden now after I beat P5 6 times.
>Start to like P4G more
>MFW I realize I have shit taste apparently

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t. resident Soulhackers fag
We get it , you are above us

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I played Persona for the first time two years ago and I disagree.

The worst thing about Last Surprise is that it gets interrupted for a moment during every all out attack even if you mash confirmation button.
The music design and variety in general is fucking atrocious for a game that came out in the same year as Automata.

His self serving excuses have nothing to do with why they were actually trying to bring him in. He's a murderer and literally trying to destroy the world, Yosuke, Yukiko, and Naoto are absolutely right he's a spoiled brat who's lashing out and needs to be stopped, nothing more. Is this why people hate P4 so much? Because it hurt their feefees? Explains a lot actually.

>I beat P5 6 times.
Not even gonna ask.

All of the games have different strengths and weaknesses, and all of them have far more flaws than not, It doesn't matter which you prefer

Well, thanks for showing yourself for the retard you are, i guess.

change the WRPG to something that came out in the last 2 years it would be nice.

No because people realized how bland it is compared to the other games.
It’s a good game but it doesn’t hold up well.

>Nobody defends Nanako's revival
Nanako's revival was fine. It was clearly established that what happened to her was directly the result of being in the TV world, therefore it makes sense that it would strength or weaken depending on the strength of the fog. Forsake the truth = fog gets stronger = Nanako dies. Try to find the truth but fail = fog stays as is = Nanako is alive but in a coma. Find the truth = fog weakens = Nanako recovers.

>it's a good game but it doesn't (synonym for good game)

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>entire restaurant laughs
>"y-you're the retards!"
>entire restaurant laughs harder

Come on user. Play count the pretty ladies and you'll understand.

>change the WRPG to something that came out in the last 2 years it would be nice.
Here you go.

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>said one user as everything happens in his head and Automata's ost eternally blows P5's the fuck out

That's what YouTube is for. P5 is a good game, but you'd have to be insane to replay a game with a 10+ hour tutorial, let alone playing it 6 times.

First time playing Persona 5 here and I gotta say it's really amazing. Picked up a 3DS to play Persona Q and pre-ordered the special edition of Q2. I'll get a Vita as well sometime in the future to play the rest of the games in the series.

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>Bland
You mean it has characters like Mitsuo, Hanako and Adachi in it who the game correctly portrays as awful and that makes Yea Forums seethe. If you mean gameplay wise, it was mostly because it had to fix P3's mistakes. Reminder that the back of the box advertises direct party control because people correctly thought it was such a shit system.
>B-but muh tactics muh nostalgia

OH NO NO NO

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Get out of here user, you're gonna get spoiled hard

>Needing to be told what alignment the responses fall under
Yikes.

>"hey dude they're all laughing at you"
>"s-shut up no they're not I'm going to go to this other place!"
>"you know it's possible for more than one thing to be good at the same time?"
>"I SAID SHUT UP"
>entire restaurant laughs harder

This, I don't understand why nu-RPGs do that. Even New Vegas had this problem.

>1 review

This is you.

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>Needing to be told what alignment the responses fall under
It's actually an optional feature, you can hide the alignment indicators if you want.

Besides, I'd rather have that than a game like P5 where 99.9% of dialogue responses are meaningless.

>he thinks generic weebshit orchestral chanting is better than acid jazz
Yikes!

Yes? A review isn't required to rate something.

You should play P3 and P4 before Q

Was literally about to post this.

Is it called acid jazz because it melts your ears?

I wouldn;t know what makes jazz 'acid', but most of Persona 5's music sounds gay as shit. The vocal parts in particular are cringeworthy.

>he cries as Automata cucks P5 out of all music awards

>wait for Futaba to wake up
How is waiting for Futaba to wake up any better than the P4 deadlines? They don't even make any sense, the person in the TV is fucking suffering should be saved ASAP because they are going days without food or water in a place filled with deadly shadows and Yu just fucks around in the real world getting his S Links up to get laid, he'll go to the TV world when he feels like it. Atleast in the P5 deadlines, the characters weren't actively suffering if you delayed doing the palace.

Cope.

I would say 5 is best, but I think there are fair reasons to prefer the others.

>Atleast in the P5 deadlines, the characters weren't actively suffering if you delayed doing the palace.
>this is supposed to be a positive
Yeah not having any form of tension is great!

I've gotten to Okumura's palace and I already know Aketchi betrays the group it's painfully obvious. I noticed when he heard Morgana talk about pancakes despite nobody else mentioning them.

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Glad to see you zoomers are enjoying the watered down, pop-lite, waifufag edition of one of the greatest rpgs ever created, Persona 1. Thanks for keeping the memory of Persona alive.

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The obvious twist is just as obvious as you think, because it's not the real twist.

Automata got cucked out of GOTY by P5 get fucked

I literally played P1 to completion and it’s not even close to P5

Damn well it looks like I'm in for a surprise.

Also why do people hate Okumura's palace? I'm playing on hard which doesn't seem all too difficult. Could just be my love of sci-fi themes and the sick palace theme.

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Combination of all the "puzzles" just being "flip this switch and run down a boring narrow hallway" and the final boss.

The intro to it (the whole morgana tantrum) is the worst part of the game and introduced the least impactful member of the group

it's not the difficulty
>puzzle section that does nothing but eat time since it's braindead
>every character related to it introduced and then immediately forgotten
>morganas retard episode

Yeah what the hell was all that shit with Morgana about? It was resolved way too quickly and Haru's introduction was just so sudden.Not to mention you don't really see Okumura doing anything bad before going into his palace you just hear about it (minus Haru of course but that was still rushed).

Me gedo lawn. It is named after a mountain or something

Every persona game has a section that's completely forced and rushed

4 doesn't.

teddy loses his sense of self and devolves into a shadow in the span of 10 strip club floors. It's just as watered down as morgana's but instead of getting resolved before the dungeon its starts and ends at the end of the dungeon

I mean the whole point of the game is getting into the seedy underbelly of society and peoples' true desires so you don't really need to see Okumura doing anything bad personally in order for it to be established that he's being shitty. Fits him being a corporate oligarch. That said, it would've been nice if Big Bang Burger was an option as a part-time job with it frequently being established that Ren is being worked into exhaustion every time he works there.

>Tel Megiddo AKA Armageddon
>According to the Book of Revelation in the New Testament of the Bible, Armageddon is the prophesied location of a gathering of armies for a battle during the end times, variously interpreted as either a literal or a symbolic location. The term is also used in a generic sense to refer to any end of the world scenario.

So they named the Megido/Megidola/Megidolan skill line after the location where basically the world ends.

That's actually fucking neat.

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I like P4 more because I fucking love slice of life/horror tropes

>jojo Part 4
>twin peaks
>Majora Mask

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>P4
>Horror tropes

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>p4
>majoras mask
>fucking jojo
>horror

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you
fuck you

Not him but Majora's Mask definitely has some horror undertones.

thriller/horror/investigative/detective

fuck you guys, you know what I mean, have a (you)

>detective = thriller

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How are any of those synonymous with horror?

I love that stuff too user, 10/10 taste

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Can someone please explain why Joker's ass is so fat in game?. I mean it's distractingly large. And it's not like that in cutscenes or anything, just the overworld.

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>I fucking love slice of life/horror tropes
Why do you like P4 then?
Every Persona game does it way better than 4

It's more immersive, slightly more challenging and really makes you feel like you're the MC. Plus the game being over when he dies actually makes sense this way.

But no, you can't understand the intricacies of this game because you have control issues.

>slash
>not "equal to"

are you guys actually retarded?

now I know some of you will say shit like
>x most terrifying moment wasn't that, it was this

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he probably thinks the second to last dungeon counts as horror because its red

>woah I get to control my whole party like in every other JRPG?
>BEST GAME EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!

You P4fags are so annoying.

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>Momentos
>Random 10-floor dungeons with slightly different wallpapers

Wow what an improvement.

maybe it's Inaba, maybe it's the not-so-well-written cast straight out a 90s tv show, maybe it's the little things that doesn't make it so damn much edgy

P5 is way too much similar to real life under certain aspects
P3 has darker and obscure tones that makes it blatantly unrealistic in some kind of way
never played 1 and 2

Teddy > Morgana

But it wasn’t rushed at all. Morgana was felt like he was useless since Makoto and Futaba where taking over his job and doing it way better until he finally snapped during Okumura.

>under the assumption that p4 is better than p5 for most of my playthrough
>moon 6
>KOU LIKES CHIE? I'M GONNA FUCKING JUMP
>no its ok i like u lol
>OK I WONT JUMP YOU CAN FUCK ME NOW

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youtu.be/ef4QtxLW-4E

>YOU CAN FUCK ME NOW
lol he doesn't know

What happens?

Based.

Nah nothing man enjoy your awesome new girlfriend

They're both shit (though Teddie is worse). The day Persona started introducing mascots is the day it died a little.

Objectively wrong.
Teddy is, bar none, the worst character in the entire Megami Tensei universe.

So P3?

I’m not him I just never finished her social link and I always heard there was something weird about it

There is not one fucking universe where teddy is worse than LOLCATBURGLAR

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>>P3 has darker and obscure tones that makes it blatantly unrealistic in some kind of way
>he's never dealt with death before

Kek wait till you're kiddo, I think you're a little too young for this game.

*P4

Goddamn auto correct.

But there is and your living in it.

>literally defending a giant talking teddy bear

You've already lost.

Basically Ai has two paths through her social link, the early girlfriend route, and the "regular" route. If you become her boyfriend during the early event the later events start getting more and more awkward, and the rank 10 event I believe (I haven't seen it in a hot minute) is straight up you two breaking up and becoming friends. I prefer her "regular" route, but the early boyfriend path is pretty interesting in my opinion

at least teddy turns into a human later. morgana never finds out what he is and remains a walking joke for the entire game

fuck no. teddie is arguably one of the worst video game characters ever. morgana is overhated because atlus had him tell the protagonist to go to sleep instead of a thought bubble.

I think she breaks up with you near the ending iirc.

I really didn't mind either one honestly, though I did think that Morgana was better written into the story. Teddie at times feels like a walking plot device.

>t. edgelord McCringelet
I tip my fedora to you, full grown man

>morgana says multiple times "I DONT KNOW HOW I KNOW THESE THINGS I JUST DO" and was literally an igor self insert to explain the plot
>somehow teddie is the walking plot device

>at least teddy turns into a human later
With no real explanation or lore to back it up.

>morgana never finds out what he is
Ha didn't they imply in one of Joker's dreams that he was really a shadow?

nah the dreams are literally never EVER fucking explained. he just shows up in the velvet room later because "THIS IS WHERE ME BORN!" and that's the end of his plot line

>morgana says multiple times "I DONT KNOW HOW I KNOW THESE THINGS I JUST DO" and was literally an igor self insert to explain the plot
which is still easily preferable to "HAHA, BEAR-SONA, I'M THE MV-BEAR, HAHA, AM I CLEVER YET SENSEI?"

>exploring the topic of death is edgy

Oh just you wait.

>WAY TO GO JOKER
>LETS NOT DO THAT TODAY
>GOKUROSAMAAAAAAAA

Did you guys play the game?
Igor made him to assist Ren after he got BTFO by Yaldy. He’s the complete opposite of Teddie.

not the topic of death you moron, the way you reply is cringe worthy

I don’t know about Morgana but you know a character is bad when the cast is constantly telling him to shut the fuck up or fuck off.
It’s weird that they made a mascot character like that.

Is smt IV any good? I just beat p5, 4, and 3 and I want more. People keep saying smt iv is a good entry spot

I'm doing the Shido boss fight rn. I already know I'm gonna hate the ending, so I'm not too pressed about spoilers

Usually these kinds of images are bait but it's 100% right in this case.

Persona's protagonists aren't good self-inserts but they aren't good proper characters either, worst of both worlds. They get by on sleek presentation and shameless wish fulfillment.

But he actually does have an explained reason for knowing those things.
I call Teddie a walking plot device because he's just some random shadow who HAPPENED to gain sentience and an ego, he HAPPENED to live in the Junes department store TV, and he HAPPENS to be the only way that Yu and the others can even leave the TV world. His very existence is a plot device. I'd actually be cool with it if it was explained that Izanami or whatever gave him intelligence, but nope he's just some guy who happened to exist.
Even then I wanna reiterate, I don't hate Teddie. I just think he's... well, a plot convenience. A lot of these stories have it.

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last i checked, koromaru and aigis were in p3.

Oh shit my bad

This. Social links may as well not exist because they don't add anything to the story and function as something else to minmax. Persona should've either transitioned harder into being a "a visual novel with gameplay elements" or "a game with visual novel elements" instead of trying to balance both and failing

p4 would have been greatly improved if teddie was told to shut the fuck up every time he opened his mouth.

Yes, it is. Start with Nocturne, though.

atlus needs to swallow their pride and bring satomi back. caligula overdose had better "social links" than nu-persona and they actually affect the main plot under certain conditions.

Too bad that game was fucking trash lmao

Fuck off Caligula shill you’re game is trash

Neither are mascots.

>t. started the franchise with 5 and has only played 5

what they actually need to do is give the persona franchise to alicesoft

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Not that guy but eh... they kinda are. Overall I agree that mascots truly began with P4, but I do believe that Koromaru (and to a lesser extent Aigis) were kind of the proto-Teddie. I kinda got the impression that with Koromaru they felt really limited as to what they could do with his character, because he was a dog and all

You do know that caligula effect is an atlus game?

This.

LOL
At least IVA is good

Mascots aren't inherently a bad thing. It's just when they're obnoxious that it becomes a problem

Oh, I actually agree with you. And I don't even hate Teddie or Morgana, personally. I'm the guy who was saying that I like both though I prefer Morgana. I just think it's... a thing worth noting I suppose

Based

It's the best one because it borrows the most from mainline SMT

Persona 1 and 2 borrow pretty heavily from the formula as well, though I personally like P5 more

Its 3 and 4 the problem , not the rule

I would argue that P1 is the only one that borrowed more heavily than 5, but you're right. P5 being newer and more refined gives it a bit of an edge though.

>P1 has best girl in the series
>She doesn't even return for P2 with the rest of the cast
Fuck

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Bait

I've played P3 and P2IS like 5-6 years ago, they were decent. The thing is I haven't even considered playing other games in the series simply because how long they were. People say that P5 has double content of P/P4, how the hell you people don't get bored of this shit?

it's actually a furyu game, and atlus only published the vita version in the west.
>implying that they weren't both blatant mascots
the absolute state of p3fags. they even gave koromaru his own social link in p3p.

Better yet you shouldn't play Q or Q2

Personee!

I don't know why, but I really liked her just being a blonde ditz who didn't give much of a shit about this Persona junk. I even liked her battle lines. I get her on my first playthrough when I failed to get Reiji and I was a bit annoyed at first, but I ended up really liking her by the end

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Golden is better in some ways. Maybe after Persona 5 will definitively be the better game.

The game takes place during a span of less than a year

>Admits he only played p5

Your opinion literally means nothing

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??? P5 is the only one that matters lol

There is literally no problem with a game having a lot of content if you enjoy it overall
Also
>Playing P2 before 1

My first Persona game was P2:EP back in the day when I rented it from Blockbuster. I didn't even get that it was a sequel to another game, so I thought that there was just like, a huge fucking mystery they'd explain by the end. They... kinda did?

persona games' length is one of their best aspects. i hate when i get fully engrossed in a good jrpg and then it ends sooner than i hoped it would.

>Ann is rich and a model
>Yusuke is an art genius
>Makoto is rich and is going to a good university
>Futaba haccs
>Haru is super rich
>Ryuji's only ability was sports and now is a cripple.
Feel one of the gangs is gonna have a shitty adult life.

I completely agree, I remember when I was getting to the end of P5 I was praying that they'd let me out of jail so I could run around for a few weeks and just chill

i'm convinced that the retarded way atlus has always handled persona 2 in the west is a big reason why it's so underrated compared to 3, 4 and 5. they should have localized both parts for the psx, and they really should have done it for the psp remakes.

How can you fucking judge a whole series of games you never played before that? You literally have no right. You don't even deserve a counterargument. I bet you don't even know it's a spin off series. Fuck off with your dumb shit. You're the reason nobody likes nu-personafags

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They are pretty good till dungeon 4 for max SP efficiency.

I only played persona 3 and 4 golden a few years ago when I was 24.

I can tell you 4 is the best without nostalgia.

Her fault for becoming a housewife at the age of 18. You need a personality to be a persona user.

You should try P5 if you liked P4, it's pretty fun

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Spin off series? No retard, I know that p5 has spinoffs. I'm saying i only played p5 because it's the only good one. Fuck that dancing game

I'm not that bothered with her not appearing again ultimately, I just think it's a shame we haven't got someone else like her since. I have a feeling the fanbase didn't like her much

I played P3 in college, and despite never finishing but actually finishing the other 2, P3 is the best.
At least mechanically.
Not keeping the fatigue mechanic, and not allowing MC to be able to hold any weapon shouldn’t have happened.

I can mash through any dungeon, and social links for 4-5 are ridiculously relaxed so that anybody can get all of them without trying too hard.

Generally I believe 4 has a better story, but it has way too many fakeout endings. And 5 has lots of style and some substance but not the greatest balance.

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>Generally I believe 4 has a better story, but it has way too many fakeout endings
Given that the whole point of the game is about finding the truth, I'd be disappointed if it didn't.

Do you guys also do stuff like this in your old games that you revisit?

Sky Odyssey [PS2] (2000)

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What the fuck am I seeing here

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A window.

3 doesn't.

>strega

You just proved him right.

Strega is mostly a distraction. Just an alternative version of SEES if they decided to use the dark hour for their benefit instead of trying to end it.

You're right, it's not a section. It's the whole game.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about but fuck it, I'll bite.

Name one part of Persona 3 that is rushed or forced.

That game had one good character and that was yusuke kitagawa

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I did. The whole game

Which MC and his friends could win against this?

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Any MC if it's Q2 where you can bring a full party of wild cards.

Well, Elizabeth was scared of Narukami's friendship power.

Ayase is best girl

Tatsuya, Maya and co.

The party already beat Theo, Elizabeth, and Margaret in that battle in PQ, and Joker can already beat Lavenza. Also, Yaldy was able to seal igor away so it stands that they're at a similar power level. Since joker beat yaldy, I'd say igor is beatable. Might take all 3 wild card users, might it's doable

>Also, Yaldy was able to seal igor away so it stands that they're at a similar power level.
It was clearly established that Yaldy was only able to do this via sneak attack, and needed to divide Lavenza's power in half so she wouldn't immediately backhand him into seven years ago.

That's true, well then Igor would be the only real challenge and we don't know how strong he is except for the fact that he created the attendants, so he's much stronger than them

Anyone with enough power of HOPE with them

I played 4 after 5 and it’s way better. Better story and characters with basically the same gameplay, which Persona has never been about in the first place

I love Ann!

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P4 is just the most fun to play through, even with all of 5's improvements. The dungeons and bosses being based around the party member's shadows worked a lot better generally than the palaces, in part because most of P5's villains were pretty lame considering it was such a villain-focused game. I love Inaba too. I hope P6 goes for a less urban setting too.

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>HE PLAYED AS FeMC
opinion DISCARDED

Cringe.

>P3 is just the most fun to play through
Fixed.

>i sure hope mitsuru/aigis does what i want her to do

>3 gameplay better than 4
opinion DISCARDED

>dumbed down gameplay is somehow better

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what's wrong with playing the definitive version of p3?

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God i want to FUCK FeMC

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>Just finished her link today
>friendzoned because apparently I picked the wrong option 5 social link ranks ago
>No warning or telegraphing that there was a hidden flag

I'm still salty

Why didn’t you say you like older women?

This but unironically.

I did.
Apparently you have to say "You're just Chihaya to me." on rank 6. That was like a week ago; I have no idea what I said.

>Cant even pick up girls on a videogame

based fitherposting

The objectively better game doesn't have to be someone's favorite one, maybe they liked certain parts of another game better for reasons other than its objective quality.

Fuck off mate I got Kawakami, Ann and Hifumi so far without checking any guides.

Including pic because it was a great moment and deserves to be preserved.

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