Smash DLC

The idea is to reveal them one after another after 2 months

That's the pattern
Piranha Plant
two months
Joker and next DLC reveal which would be E3
Rinse and repeat

Fucking nothing and you know it user. I mean just look at Cloud

Honestly Erdrick grew on me already

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This, Erdrick sucks

>NPC over main character
Never ever

Literally who wants Erdrick? Japan?

Good job Nintendo, prioritize 1/4 of your install base and make the rest of the world yawn in boredom. If he gets revealed at E3 or something get ready for a lot of silence and confused/disappointed faces, because no one outside Japan gives a flying fuck about this character or even knows who it is.

It's a japanese game made by japanese persons, of course Japan have priority.

DQ XI sold almost as much as Persona 5 on the west.

Who knows Joker?

>Main character of one game over the mascot of the entire series

Fuck Joker too, another absolutely beyond-retarded choice. The game isn't even on the Switch.

can it be DQIII SNES midis i love those

And that's retarded because Japan only makes up a fraction of the customer base. Its sold over 12 million copies so far and only a few million were sold in Japan.

this. i'm sad my se most wanted isn't in, but erdrick is kind of adorable, esp. femdrick.

I'm guessing you've never worked on that kind of projects yourself. It's not only about sales. People prefer to work on content they're familiar with.

Yet haven't been playable in anything but spinoffs. How do you expect to represent DQ's gameplay with a character you don't play as in DQ?

>game no one played
10/10 bait

he's a retro character that gets acknowledgment throughout the entire series, even if he isn't present. retro reps with a legacy are kinda sakurai's thing.

I want a DQ rep since FF and SMT are already in, that way the big three JRPG franchises that spawned on the NES are all in.

That said, Square was already stingy enough with Cloud, I can't imagine how stingy they would be with Erdrick thanks to Sugiyama

That's fine, but I and most people outside Japan aren't going to give much of a shit about these characters. Wouldn't it be better for the game and business as a whole if people outside the 20% of Smash owners in Japan were excited for the new characters? Instead of creating bad press by disappointing 80% of your customers?

Seriously, if Erdrick is an E3 reveal, get ready for some backlash because next to no one in the west wants this character they've never heard of.

>Erdrick
How long will you cucks continue with this meme?

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Then again it's not only about sales or fanservice. Hell, Joker is pretty typically japanese too.

where my boy Crono in smash

Etika will still pretend to know who he is and lose his shit over it for le ebin twitch money

Really hoping we get him too but Erdrick is way more likely at this point

>Erdrick

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shitposting won't suddenly make it false user, it'll hurt less if you get over it now

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profound silence and even fewer spirits than final fantasy

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Also Switch DQXI is getting orchestrated music. Maybe on PS4 its difficult but not with Nintendo.

>still thinking Erdrick is in

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see

based

>The pass is gonna be filled with shit picks like Erdrick and Steve
At least I didn't waste my money.

This, at least they’d be more fitting than a bunch of NES tunes

Bold of you to assume we're getting anything DQ with so many copyright shenanigans, let alone Sugiyama's OST.
Shitposting won't suddenly make it true either, you fucking retard.
It's far more likely to see anything Capcom than a second Squeenix rep.

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Honestly the best thing about the fighter's pass will be the buyer's remorse of the retards who bought it before all of the characters were revealed.

*snap*

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Dq III battle theme and overture

since when he was comfirmed?

He wasn't, but these retards will believe any Resetera tranny with "leaks"

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Say it with me
SPIRITS DECONFIRM CHARACTERS

>Shadow on the wall isn't Erdrick hanging himself
Step up, Sorafag

I want Erdrick in just so these smug delusional sorafags get btfo

Dragon quest is my childhood so I want him in

>He still thinks he's DLC 2

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Agreed

This is dumb, but it is worth noting Scrooge McDuck's NES game sold more in America than Erdrick's.

why

fucking retards believing anything they see on the internet "HURR DURR HES IN ITS A REAL LEAK"
erdrick is leakbait
steve isn't in
joker, crono and a minecraft stage are in the 3.0 patch
doomguy scorpion and reimu are in the fighter pass
you'll get banjo for free if you buy all the dlc
all packs include spirits, a boss and an exclusive wol area
that's it, believe it now or later
or continue watching shitty laxchris videos for all i care LOL

>Literally Grinch 2.

LaDeShit

KH hasnt had a game on Nintendo since 2011. DQ is getting at least 5 games this year (Builders 2, Rivals, Heroes 1, Heroes 2, XI plus more announcements to come confirmed by koizumi.)

Yet somehow Sora fans still think KH will be selected over DQ by Nintendo as Smash DLC this year.

i want neither because bravely default ticks all the same supporting marks that erdrick does while having a shot at reprising their old job-system concepts for bartz as a character

Only a bunch of them actually, it's still not the full package. I'm guessing this is also the reason why Theathrythm Dragon Quest was never localized.

I dont even care who is in anymore. We havennt gotten a single announcement for almost half a year and its killing me.

I think the bigger picture is that Nintendo is publishng the Switch version, whereas SE published the PS4 version and didnt get any orchestrated music. If Nintendo was able to secure orchestrated music for XI, even if its a handful of songs, theres little reason to doubt they wouldn’t be able to secure music for Smash. Thus the whole argument that “DQ can't get in Smash because muzix is hawd to negozi8” is a meme.

you dumbshit Mewtwo literally took longer from reveal to being playable.

This has been well known long before resetera even existed. Shut the fuck up you retarded shitposter, Sugiyama is a fucking cunt.

I never believed in that, rather that if Edrick or any DQ character for that matter ended up in Smash, the music would have been midified.
Whatever, what will be will be. I'm open to anything at this point.

No one gives a shit about DQ in North America

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>DQ is getting at least 5 games this year
I guess if you blatantly count games released years ago as brand new games then sure

>Yet haven't been playable in anything but spinoffs.
You get slimes in your party in multiple games. One of the best companions in 4 was a Healslime

>DQ is getting at least 5 ports this year for Nintendo
Fixed that for you

The only people who care about KH in the west are jobless manchildren

wasn't the Erdrick "Leak" proven fake not too long ago?

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And the only people who care about DQ in the west are weeaboos. Your point?

Don't forget fujoshis.

You do realize only the worst kind of weebs follow KH, in addition to soiboys, right?

it's sad that i've gone from hoping that geno might actually make it this time to doubting the mii costume is even returning and begging for it

why do people even bother to speculate daily when we have nothing actually confirmed

Cause we have nothing else to do

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Literally this. We really just want more information, but its been so long since Joker's reveal and no other character is known at this point.

>edrickfags still think he's a lock

I'm rooting for my nigga frisk.

Its never too late to start hoping the one off partners from Paper Mario make it in. At least they are owned by Nintendo.

It was. Plus considering how fucking stingy Square was with Cloud, what makes these Erdrick fags think he has a chance in Smash Bros considering how badly neutered he'd be if he did make it in!

Source?

Nothing deconfirms anything.
Sakurai can put in anyone he wants cause it's his game, there's no faggotity made up invisible rules you retards make that means anything, this is the case for everything cause you keep moving the goalposts like the fucking smegma drinking degenerates you are.

Brain damage

Let me dream damn it.

>Never the guy
>Never drew a dime

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i bet his sperm taste delicious, right user?

When was anything proven fake? I keep hearing people say this but never hear an explanation of how.

there were two separate leaks with Erdrick, only one was "proven" false, the other was actually backed up by Joker's stage being Mementos.

The leak that they're referring to was only supposedly disproven by ignoring details and bandwagoning on a shitpost

I see. I haven't actually payed attention to any leaks so far, so I appreciate the rundown.

assuming Erdrick is in (he is), the rest of the lineup is likely Ryu Hayabusa, Minecraft Steve, and Doomslayer

Sounds like a pretty good roster to me.

>not wanting Crono in so genofags, sorafags and erdrickfags can all be buttblasted in unison

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If I don't want Geno, why would I want a different one off literally who from the mid 90s

Chrono Trigger is overrated by everyone except the company that rightfully let its series die.

to make genofags seethe, why else

>prioritize 1/4 of your install base and make the rest of the world yawn in boredom
You say it like Roy, Shulk and Chrom didn't happen before.

This but with Vivi instead of Crono

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>erdrick is leakbait
Just like how Incineroar was leakbait, right?

this, the only time anyone specifically got in because the west wanted them was Ridley

Erdrick isn't happening. What with all people who say Erdrick is in saying he'll get a Luminary alt (which wouldn't match up with Brave's size) and Sugiyama hating his music being used more than gays, it's safe to say Erdrick isn't in.

>only one was "proven" false
That's actually wrong. Neither of the leaks have been proven false. Some retards on Yea Forums spammed this board saying how one of the Erdrick leaks was fake because the leaker wrote down Erdrick's localized name instead of his Japanese name. That was actually wrong. The leaker wrote down Erdrick's localized name and clarified that it was Loto's name in the west.

Keep in mind that the leak with Erdrick, Steve, Dloomguy and Ryu was posted hours before the leak with just Erdrick. Also, both leaks share information.

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it's almost like they'll go to any level of mental gymnastics to ignore the truth and believe that suddenly Sakurai and Nintendo will care about their obscure nostalgia picks

You seem to be confused. Erdrick would get alt colors that make his appearance look like the Luminary. Lucina, Shulk and even Richter have alt colors of different characters, so this is nothing new.

I know, I put proven in quotes because it's still actively un-disproven

Oh, I'm a fucking idiot. Might as well post the full 5ch leak anyway since some people are confused about it.

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a lot of people also try to use the dumb dates and reasons for inclusion to disprove this, but imo it's pretty obvious this dude is just assuming that information

Man this is really getting my hopes up. I want Loto so much.

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So far both of those leaks have had everything right. The Joker and Erdrick leak is all but confirmed at this point. The Ryu and Doomguy leak needs more info

We all know exactly who's in, he's always been in.

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It helps that the Ryu and Doomguy leak was actually posted before the solo Erdrick leak. And both leaks share palette swaps for Erdrick and talk about promoting DQ overseas.

>he is
LOL, Nope

No. Closest he's getting in as is a fucking costume for Miis.

>leaks parrot off each other to
You fucks are retards

i honestly wouldn't even be mad at that

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HG BROS GET IN HERE:

What's wrong with the leak parroting off each other? It was probably posted by the same person.

please just accept he's in and get over it, the last thing Yea Forums needs is more incessant bitching

The leak that came after has called Mementos, called P5U getting delayed, and was the first to ever mention Granblue Fighting game. It got a lot right that wasn’t even in the first leak that you are claiming it copied.

>first to ever mention Granblue Fighting game
except Granbluefags saw it coming a mile away

He'd be the most underwhelming newcomer fucking ever in the history of Smash. It does not matter HOW fucking huge Minecraft is. The reason that fucking game is popular is its world. NOT its "characters". It'd be even WORSE than Corrin.

They should add in Quake. Also Dai is the superior DragonQuest DLC

>underwhelming
>Minecraft
If anything, it'd have the biggest meme potential out of all potential newcomers.

speak for yourself, I've been a stevefag for like 4 years

I’ve seen a few people claim it was discussed before the post but no proof has ever surfaced.

And even if GB fans somehow speculated the correct genre for a spinoff of the series, theres no way they “saw a mile away” exactly who the developer was and knew that the development cycle complications of the companies other game.

I love building B R O W N B R I C K S in Super Smash Bros. Oh look a free Switch.

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Putting Steve in Smash is on the same level of retarded picks as putting in literally any of the NPCs from Fortnite. Just because it makes money doesn't mean it's a good idea to cash in on it and fuck over the fans.

>I don't like Steve
>Putting in Steve means it will fuck over all Smash Bros fans
As if. Most Smash Bros fans would honestly be content with any character that gets added and adding a character from a recognizable and beloved series like Minecraft will garner a huge positive reaction from the fans.

>Minecraft
>beloved
Found the zoomer

unironically kill yourself

>Minecraft
>Not beloved
How delusional do you have to be?

Most fans of the series want Banjo and Kazooie. Even Japan wants Banjo more than that literal blockhead. No one wants Steve. Seriously name me more than 30 people on any social media who want Steve in the fucking game.

Again. The closest kind of representation he's getting in as is just a costume. He doesn't emote either and that basically ruins any chances of him getting in. Seeing how that's one of Sakurai's rules.

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>Most fans of the series want Banjo and Kazooie.
Okay so you're retarded.

I'm going to need some sources for this, my friend.

>Fuck Ryu too, another absolutely beyond-retarded choice. The game isn't even on the Wii U.
>Fuck Snake too, another absolutely beyond-retarded choice. The game isn't even on the Switch.
>Fuck the Belmonts too, another absolutely beyond-retarded choice. Their games aren't even on the Switch.

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Why are banjofags so insecure? Their bear always have to be loved by everyone and if anyone starts to criticize or question them they usually go into a full meltdown

Best case scenario for Microsoft
>Banjo as unique Rep
>Steve as Mii Swordfighter Costume with Diamond Sword (One that covers the whole body so you are basically playing Steve)
>A New Stage Creator that has Minecraft Textures

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>banjo
>unique
Duck hunt

>Best case scenario for Microsoft
>Lists out dumb rosterfag bullshit so that Banjo can be in and Steve is a Mii costume
no thanks

nintendosoup.com/sakurai-reveals-the-four-criteria-for-a-character-to-be-included-in-super-smash-bros-ultimate/

Also to add to this.
mynintendonews.com/2014/10/09/sakurai-explains-how-characters-are-chosen-for-inclusion-in-super-smash-bros/

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Steve would have no problem getting picked based on these criteria, though.

>said in 2008
>WFT is now a thing
Sure thing bub.

HE DOESN'T HAVE A CANON PERSONALITY YOU FUCKING RETARD. HE'S A SKIN.

WFT emotes. Steve does not.

That argument has no weight. People turned Steve punching trees with his bare hands to get wood into a meme. Steve is fine. He has as much of a personality as Villager does.

Barely. Their only ''emotions'' are smiling and reacting to pain.

More unique than Steve honestly.
>Steve
Sword (Half the cast)
Fishing Rod (Isabelle)
Arrows (Link)
Buff Potions (Shulk, WFT)
You could probably do something with Block Placement and maybe potentially upgrading his gear through a crafting table ala Frank West but that doesn't seem very exciting.
>Banjo
Combination/Duo attacks
Backpack Shenanigans
Mumbo Magic Transformations
Vehicles
Power-Ups
Egg Ammunition
I want DLC fighters with drastically different moves than the rest of the cast, Steve just happens to share a lot of potential moves with multiple characters already in the game. Banjo might share one or two similar pecking moves with Duck Hunt but even that's better than yet another sword user.

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Smash Bros Ultimate makes fun of Wii Fit Trainer's inability to emote, though.

Yeah and guess what WFT and Villager do? They both emote in their own games. Steve has never emoted because he is a default skin.

Source: Your ass.

>Source: Your ass.
R.O.B.'s classic mode is called Unreadable Expressions and you fight characters that can't emote. He fights male and female Wii Fit Trainers.

>Combination/Duo attacks
Duck Hunt Ice Climbers
>Backpack Shenanigans
Pretty desperate if you're using grab animations as a selling point
>Mumbo Magic Transformations
Anyone can have a cool final smash
>Vehicles
Bowser Jr
>Power-Ups
Just like anyone on the roster does
>Egg Ammunition
A fancy way of saying generic fireball projectile, you aren't really making banjo look good right now. Think I'll stick with Duck Hunt

Good job only listing shit that makes Steve look bad.

Maybe not directly in his own game, but you are acting like he can’t draw inspiration from other materials. One way or another you have seen Steve represented with emotion. We have official Minecraft games like Storymode 1 + 2, and now Dungeons where characters emote. These same official emotions are based on the massive amounts of “fan animations” like the ones by CaptainSparklez, that made became so popular they were officially adopted.

8 bit sprites with limted emotions such as Ice Clmbers and Game and Watch were turned into fighters without 3D models so that is pretty bs. Also ROB was a toy with zero emotion.

DQ is and will always be more relevant to Nintendo than your literally who. Its Nintendo's second best selling third party game.

>Combination/Duo attacks
Ice Climbers, Duck Hunt, RosaLuma
>Mumbo Magic Transformations
Game & Watch, Pokémon Trainer
>Vehicles
Bowser Jr., Wario
>Egg Ammunition
Yoshi

Yup. Such a unique newcomer.

>being an unironic banjo supporter after this humiliation
pitiful

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Hey man, feel free to list the cool stuff Steve could do. I got no axe against the blockhead if he's got something genuinely cool that he could do.

I do.

TNT, Ender Pearls, Potions, Slime Blocks, Elytra, Potion Arrows, Tridents, Armor, Enchantments, Crafting, Block Placement, Mob Spawning, Pickaxe as default weapon, and The Wither as a Final Smash

Wow, and Steve isn't even in those games! You proved absolutely nothing!

>Axes, fishing rods, hoes, pick axes, shears, shovels, shields and flint & steel
>Swords, tridents, bows, snowballs, eggs that summon chickens and monsters and arrows with various effects (there are arrows that slow down falls)
>Potions that you can drink or potions that you can throw
>Boats, minecarts, wings
>Dispensers and trapdoors
>Various building blocks
>TNT
there's too much to list desu

If anything, the fact that Steve doesn't emote makes him even more interesting.

I'm sick of the guest fighter circlejerking. Why can't we go back to discussing which missing spirits could get in? Reggie never said existing-franchise characters are not applicable.

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How is he interesting at all?! How? Literally how? Because he builds shit?!

>Why can't we go back to discussing which missing spirits could get in?
Oh fuck no

We know who we're getting though, Fighter Pass 1 is all guests, maybe Fighter Pass 2 will focus on Nintendo characters

There are two replies above mine that you conveniently glossed over that answer your question.

>Steve
>a character

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Hadn't considered the pickaxe as a default weapon, sounds cool. TNT would be interesting, would that be a Smash attack or a Special Attack? Honestly I'd probably pass on any moveset that involves arrows but how would you balance block placement? Could you edge-guard with it? Sounds sort of like a hybrid-zoner with attributes of Frank West like I mentioned earlier, upgrading his abilities which start weak, say an 'egg that hatches chickens' but after using the crafting table becomes an 'egg that hatches monsters'. I'd still personally prefer Banjo for personal reasons but I like what you guys have suggested, if he got in and had moves like this, I'd be cool with it.

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>being very creative isn't characteristic
Typical banjies going into full melt down

Yes, Steve is a character.

>We know who we're getting though
No we don't. For all we know after Joker they could reveal like 4 new FE characters, they just said the characters are surprising and that would apply to having 4 obscure or out of left field Nintendo characters aswell.

>We know who we're getting though, Fighter Pass 1 is all guests
Absolutely no confirmation of that

there's this one moveset for him on Source Gaming that I always thought was pretty decent, some of it is fucking stupid but I know Sakurai can make him work much better

You're all retarded. The 2nd character hasn't been leaked. This is blatant bait. Go fuck yourselves.

What's his personality then

Sucks that of all wanted SE characters, Crono has the lowest chance. Sora and Erdrick have living franchises, Geno is a fan favorite, Crono has nothing outside of people being okay with him in,

memelord

He isn't. He's a default skin. He has no personality. He does not speak. He does not emote. He's a literal fucking self-insert.

He's so fucking emotionless that Yea Forums had to make up a personality for him. That's how bland of a "character" he is.

>Stevefags still think they have a chance

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>Other criteria include game balance
Bye bye Steve minecraft, your blocks can ruin the game.

remember when you could be excited for whatever gets revealed rather than religiously supporting a fictional a character and getting pissed off when willy the gerbil gets in over dingo the kangaroo and obsessively backing gumby in order to btfo willy the gerbilfags

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if you all want to disregard credible information, be my guest. It won't change anything, and it certainly won't make your literally whos playable.

Not a Stevefag, I think the choice is retarded, but there are more than enough no-personality self inserts in Smash. Joker is one of them.

>credible information
From who? All I said is that we have no fucking idea what we're getting and I almost certainly don't care who we're getting since I played more than enough games to be content with anyone, as long as I like how they play.

No one in North America cares weeb

You sound like a retard. Things change.
When you keep getting reps from series you've barely heard of or outright resent, hype drains fast.

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Joker talks and has speaking lines. And has enough unique traits to not be considered a self-insert. What part of "must display personality" do you not understand? Joker emotes and speaks in his own game. Does Steve? No. He does not.

Back to mc donalds, mutt.

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I wouldn't put Joker and Steve on the same level. While you can play Joker how you want to some extent, he does some things regardless of what you pick, and you can clearly see he enjoys being a thief. He's more like Robin: you can make your own version of them, but not really change their personality and role in the story.

Steve meanwhile, has nothing but what the player makes him do in Minecraft, if they use him at all.

hey minecraft boy, brown brick man
your worst nightmare has arrived!

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Smash has always been introducing people to series they never heard of. When I picked up Melee for the first time I had no idea who samus was but thought he was cool regardless

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brown bricks you say?

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ftfy

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I’m so hoping for the next Smash they build it from 0, scrap 90% of the roster, remove every FE rep except Marth and give every character a new moveset.

Also 50% of the roster should be third party.

Fuck Dark Pit, Doctor Mario, Dark Samus and Zero Suit Samus.
Fuck Daisy
Fuck Wolf
And fuck every piece of shit literally who echo fighter that serves no purpose and genuinely ruins the roster.

>Comparing Ryu, Snake, and Simon Belmont to Anime Boy and Anime Teen

>repackaging steve memes
typical banjies not being creative, which makes sense since you want banjo in

>Throwing Dark Samus in with the other shitters
Fuck you man

You’re right, Erdrick’s game is better and more important than all those characters you just named.

It still hurts

Nothing because he’s not coming.

LITERALLY A PALLETE SWAP

WHO THE FUCK IS DARK SAMUS?

I thought the Metroid series wasn’t Sonic braindead tier of garbage? Does the Metroid series UNIRONICALLY have a Shadow the Edgehog character?

Mega yikes

More people know Dark Samus than Banjo

I did not say "never", I said barely.
And sure, it's fine if it happens once or twice but the problem is it keeps happening. Repetition without supplementation is taxing on excitement.

In Japan.

>LITERALLY A PALLETE SWAP
Only in Smash

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I thank fuck people like you aren’t the director.

Based

>no Erdrick reveal during the last DQ-heavy Nintendo Direct
He's not in.

>Please look forward to more news

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Turning Metroid Prime into DAAARK SAAAMUSSSS was pretty embarrassing, I'll grant you.

Yeah, the name is heavy handed for what she does in the games. SA-X had a better name

They should have just kept calling her Metroid Prime, really

rate me you pricks

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You are 90% based, just don't get what is wrong with Erdrick and Sylux

Your wanted newcomers are a bit generic but your least wanted newcomers are based.

>Crono
>Porky
Based

I like how anytime someone makes these FE is almost consistently in the least wanted section.

You realize if it wasn’t for Erdrick, Crono wouldn’t exist, right?

Are all Smash players this uncultured?

>Erdrick
You know why.
>Sylux
Pathetic Anti-Ridleyfags desperately clinging to Tanabe's crummy, generic, "so cool and mysterious" Original the Character/Lego Bionicle Boba Fett.

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Erdrick is only popular in Japan and 90% of the world is unaware of his existence. Even spics who eat up Akira's work have no knowledge of DQ.

There's no room for Erdrick, sorry.

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I just don't want months of egotistical assholes shitposting about how "THE LEAKER WERE RIGHT SEETHE HARDER HUR HUR HUR". As for sylux, we already have ridley and dark samus, we don't really need a third samus. Besides, then peole would start bitching about how metriod is the new FE.

And why is that relevant?

>tfw I kind of want to see the Pokemon roster at least half re-drafted since there's so many that are both popular and easily adaptable to a Smash game

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You're based as fuck. I do admit Crash Bandicoot getting in would make my skin crawl because his design is intrinsically repulsive to me in a way too similar to the old Honeycomb cereal mascot for comfort, but I can let that slide.

lmao, look at this retarded grinchfag, point at him and laugh.

It'd be a waste to only put in a character only a small population of the smash community knows about.

>Erdrick
Boring as fuck, but has a good chance.
>Sylux
He was the consolation prize of Metroid reps before we got Ridley AND Dark Samus because speculators had given up on those two.

>every single leak debunked
>erdrick is still in trust me
>he's brave so that must mean he's in
>shut up don't ask why he was taken out of the """""'""""code"""""""""" he's in
screen cap this and print it on t shirts and make Doug Bowser wear it at E3, Erdrick is never ever getting in

It's still a Nintendo fighting game, Nintendo being a Japanese company, with Dragon Quest being the second best selling franchise on Nintendo's first home console.

Cope

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The problem would be that the roster would be filled with nothing but KANTOOOmons and Lucario.

Eh, is Erdrick any more boring than Crono or Dirk?

This, I swear this place goes through the same paces every hype cycle

Japan is not cucked to the point of caring about other countries above their own. You will take their favorite games and you will enjoy it, silly gaijin.

Facts don't care about feelings. If they can sell 100 of something in Country A and 2 of something in Country B, it's better than selling 20 in both.

If theres one thing I've learned its that every newcomer that Yea Forums fucking despises ends up being fun as hell to play like Incineroar so I personally welcome our new over lord

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What songs and spirits are we gonna get with the 3rd DLC fighter, though?

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>Robin clone
Do you like stale bread too?

Erdrick is the white bread of JRPG protags in a white bread JRPG franchise.
>more boring than Crono
Yeah, Crono could get some interesting gimmicks while Erdrick could bring... spells. A sword.
>Dirk
No clue, I don't know Dragon's Lair beyond watching snippets. He seems to have a lot of personality, though.

Square tried that multiple times and it hasn't worked. SE even acknowledged that the West doesn't care about it. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it.

Again, this is all from the viewpoint that the west matters and Japanese devs will not do things to please the Japanese population.

>you wasted cash importing something to only sell 2 of something in Country B

Seeing that Sakurai cared enough to give the Western fans Ridley and K. Rool. Yeah. He definitely cares what fans overseas want.

>EWJ, Banjo, Dante, Crono, Crash
Based
>Heavy
Based but I'd rather Scout
>Alex Kidd, Abe, Bub & Bob, Dirk, Viewtiful Joe
Meh
>Porky
I love Mother, but no

And it's very telling that after he went out of his way to please the west, the west still whines at the third party that holds Nintendo's second best selling third party game getting in Smash.

It doesn't cost much extra to import dlc. As for the Dragon Quest series in general though, they just need to market it a bit better. Maybe they could put a character from the series in a globally popular party fighting game to spark interest for example.

He's in.

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no he doesn't, K. Rool wasn't even because of the west, he was because of the ballot. Ridley is the only character in the span of 20 years that was added because we requested him, and he was by far the most requested character ever for the series here.
It took two decades of outcry to get one character we wanted.

Persona did better, Xenoblade did better, Octopath did better, DQIX did better despite being an afterthought thrown on Reggie's desk.
I have no idea what the fuck SE thinks its doing.

None since he wont be in

To who will it spark interest for? Smashfags will buy it because they just want a complete roster and that's it, there's no interest beyond that, it only work for Fire Emblem because they were in Melee's base roster and the West was genuinely curious where the fuck they came from.

please just accept he's in and move on

God damn it why couldn’t we get any actually interesting characters for DLC?

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>Brave is slippery and floaty
>implying Erdrick would play like that
It's not him

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And people in the west will genuinely wonder who Erdrick is. Would Earthbound be as widely regarded today if it wasn't for Smash? What about Xenoblade? Notice how as April approaches there have been an increase in Persona threads? Why did Roy rank so highly in that official FE popularity poll when his game never released globally? People will buy the fighter pass to have all of the characters or because they got excited by the popular Megaten cougar thief holding an envelope, so they will know who Erdrick is when he's announced/released. This is definitely going to make people interested in learning his origins, especially if he turns out to be a cool character. All SE has to do is give Nintendo the ok to use their ip and not only will they get extremely effective advertising, but they will be payed for it. For Nintendo, they will get a ton of sales from Japan. Win-win.

this is such a fucking dumb reason to disregard everything else, Erdrick has never appeared in a fighting game before and Sakurai can do whatever the fuck he wants, plus that data is four months old now and has certainly changed

>believing this
Fuck off

>Being 4 months late in rumors

Yikes

Cool argument. Sure showed me.

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More like Cutie Quest III

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based and 100% accurate

dude i just really want Gengar. They could cap the Kanto at Pika/Charizard/Gengar/Mewtwo then go all out with the remaining 4-6

>fags wanking themselves
I don't need any other argument

Cope harder lmao

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Except to use Dragon Quest they need to get the IPs from 3 different individuals *and* a huge corporation.
>Yuji Horii
>Akira Toriyama
>Koichi Sugiyama
>Square Enix
But you could still end up with a "Cloud" amount of content

based and sunpilled

>Someone agreed with you so you lose.

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Does Smash really bring out the worst autism out of people?

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Based heavychad

Yes

Nigga you can't just be as slippery and floaty as Luigi while carrying heavy armor and weaponry. Sakurai would want Erdrick to play similar to how he did in previous games (ie slower, heavier, more tactical), a virtue that isn't reflected in Brave's data.
>well they can change the data
True but the skid Brave does while turning is clearly intentionally implemented that way as one one other character in the game shares that trait.

You guys DO realize Nintendo publishes all DQ games on the west on their platform, right?

Having a Cloud amount of content doesn't really change the likelyhood. Nintendo has already been working with SE enough to get the rights for Cloud and Geno, so Erdrick isn't really a stretch. Sakurai is actually friends with Horii, so he won't be an issue. All that leaves is to get the OK from the other 2, which probably just means midi music to not cut into CD sales. It's not like Nintendo and SE haven't collaborated regarding DQ before.

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Placeholder data that was removed from the game 3 months ago, get with the times gramp.

He’s in

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Okay, it's been almost 40 minutes. Where the fuck is my HG, sakurai?

...ok?

Remember to report hunger game subhumans, mods are giving them a 1 week ban lately.

sakurai mightve gotten beaned like last time

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Let it be known that Erdrick would only be a good choice for the crossover porn.

It's possible, but anyone thinking he's in because of a ""leak"" is just asking to be disappointed.

E3

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God, getting HG retards banned makes me so hard

>Why can't we go back to discussing which missing spirits could get in?
Because every Nintendo character without a spirit is extremely bottom of the barrel except Porky, and even then the fact that the Absolutely Safe Capsule is a 4* Spirit is almost certainly a joke about Porky still being in it and surviving despite being hit by Galeem's beams

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>unique

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I mean yes? He/She is possible for both Yaoi and Yuri fanfics.

Oh I don't think he's in because of a leak. The leaks are just making easy guesses. I think he's in because a DQ character was always really likely. People underestimate DQ here, but I have always seen it as being at least around Castlevania levels of likelyhood.

And this is exactly why Ashleyfags got torn to shreds. You don't care about playing the character or the game. Just the butthurt replies and porn.

Any DQ rep could theoretically happen. Isn't Erdrick only talked about because of the alleged leak?

Can you fucking imagine? They literally couldn't top that.

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>Ashleyfag
I'm no pedo,
>You only care about the porn
I said Erdrick in smash would mean good porn and nothing else of value. So, a bad choice.

Alternatively, cause people love suprises
>youtube.com/watch?v=AxgGZDBeHyE
>animated in the style of Halo Legends
>Chief walking through a forerunner chamber, towards a door that seems to lead outside
> “Is this where you expect to find it, Cortana”
> “You wanted to go through with it, John. So let’s finally face this once and for all”
> “hard to believe this day would never come”
>FP view of the outside unblurring
> “what are you to say now”
>outside unblurrs, showing a path to a mountain, on the side is a flag with the smash logo (0:33 hits this mark)
>small montage of the two making their journey, and cutting to a battle ground of Link fighting Falcon, switching back
>Link and Falcon look up to a descending Chief, who crash lands on the battlefield, as meta knight, DK, and Snake show up
> “That’s quite a welcome party”
> “Well, let’s make the best of it, Cortana”
>MASTER CHIEF FINISHES THE FIGHT
>mid trailer cuts back to the legends animation
>Ryu charges at Chief
>SHORYUKEN!
>Screen fades back to normal after a brightening light, revealing Chief didn’t even get hit
>Ryu is shocked, and he can’t control his fist, as if some invisible force is holding it in place
>an clenched alien hand uncloaks itself along with the rest of its body as the other ignites an energy sword and slashes at the wanderer
>Ryu backs up with smoke coming off his torn shirt, joined by Wolf, Richter, and Zelda against the alien
>the uncloaked being walking towards them, brandishing his sword
> “Were it so easy”
>ARBITER MAKES HIS MARK
>post trailer goes back to animated
> Cortana: So, it’s finished
>Samus comes out of the smoking battlefield
> Chief *loading his BR*: No. we’re just getting started
>Samus and Chief charge at each other, as the screen fades to black
>the piano part plays at SUPER SMASH BROS X HALO

Erdrick is like the Cloud of Dragon Quest except even more stand out. The entire first 2 games constantly mentions his legacy until the enormously selling third game actually lets you play as him, with the fact that it's Erdrick being a plot twist. Almost every game after makes some reference to him, usually his armor being available. He's by far the most notable protagonist. Honestly, I felt like it was 50/50 it would be him or Slime, but once they chose Joker over Jack Frost, I'm leaning much more towards Erdrick.

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Microsoft would play ball 100%, and keeping the Chief Train moving up until the beginning of the staggered MCC release would be a pretty good idea

i unfortunately still doubt it but I hope Nintendo's smart with this DLC line up and it's not adorned with JRPG shilling

Chief would be an unprecedented bombshell addition for smash but a literal nobody for Japan. He has almost no chance unfortunately, Smash rosters only pander to the Japs.

Piranha Plant is nothing like his original parameters. Neither were Cloud, Corrin or Bayonetta. They are literally added just to fill that space until the final product is made.

Joker is also as tall as Toon Link currently. Unless you think he's going to be like that in the final product because they intentionally added that to his files....

The Japs can choke it down.

Little Mac, Duck Hunt and Ridley were explicitly due to foreign notoriety and they dealt with it, plus you KNOW Dragon Quest is tucked in to the line up so they'll be sated anyway

>Little Mac is in despite Punch Out never being a huge seller in Japan
>Ridley was the most requested from the West and he's in
>Sakurai specifically mentioned the West wanted Dark Samus after Dark Samus was shown
>still saying Smash only cares for Japan

>Smash rosters only pander to the Japs.
What?
Ultimate's entire roster was extremely focused towards the west
The only character that was entirely Japan orientated this time around were Chrom and Richter, every other character was either for the West (Ridley, Simon Belmont), both Japan and the west (King K. Rool, Inkling), or Sakurai himself (Piranha Plant, Incineroar, Joker)

>Ryu
Street Fighter 2 and 4 were both on Nintendo systems
>Snake
eh I'll give you this one
>Belmonts
Richter is a stretch but Simon was an NES icon

Those are all Nintendo characters. I just can't see him happening unless they use the "West doesn't give a shit about Erdrick so we'll give em Chief" logic. But who knows, everything is a pattern until it's not.

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All of them have Nintendo history to varying degrees. Some you can count the titles on one hand, some have hundreds.

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Master Chief would be great but that won't happen

Who would have to get in in order to absolutely blow out any pre-conceived 'rules'? about what can get in Smash and what can't?
>Western
>Third-Party
>No history on Nintendo consoles at all
>Hasn't had a game in a long time

I am fine with anything but people wanting Master fucking Chief in Smash.
Western characters are already bad picks by default, but people go beyond to fuck it up.

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Frisk

An indie character.

Blinx

You can rest easy bro, this tweet has you covered.

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Even Crash would BTFO so many.

Honestly with all the banjo vs Steve faggotry, he would be the most surprising choice and people would lose their shit, plus halo is probably coming switch this year, it could happen.

Hes clearly trolling, dont think this is solid proof.

If any westernshit gets in (considering how popular smash is in America i could see them throwing a bone) it should be doomguy or chief no other characters represent the west better than these two.

He is trolling in the second tweet. But people asked because he is the one who would know if Chief was in. And he did answer, meaning Chief is not in this wave.

If we're going to BTFO some rulefags, we might as well go all out

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Guess you never played the Banjo-Kazooie games huh? I pity you.

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Dumb ChannelAwesomeposter

You are a damn liar.

This version was the original, dumbass.

>Mario, Sonic, Master Chief, and Crash in the same game

Imagine seeing that shit in 2001.

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She's in!

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I wish this were true...

he's fucking in

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No deconfirm yet. No reason to give up.

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>two timeless mascots
>one semi-relevant mascot
>one bootleg flavor of the month mascot

You do realize that the backpack can be used for more than just grabs right? If you played the games you'd know.

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Little Mac's support was almost entirely in the west as well.

>he can stand upright and punch and kick
>he's the last member of the DLC picks. HUH

>she has no tact, she is all cheek
>this bird has a dirty beak
>she can backflip when she wants to
>and turn into dragon
>just for you

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>Banjobros show support
>Make good arguements
>"Meltdown"

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Would he necessarily have to know if Chief was in? They don't own the character, just work on him.

retard

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>Frank O'Connor: Franchise Development Director for the Halo franchise at 343 Industries
>twitter description: "shaded by the benign munifecence [sic] of Microsoft, doing Halo stuff."

Fact

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>Imagine that Steve was ever considered for inclusion in Smash Bros base roster but then moved to DLC to promote an upcoming Minecraft game.

That's how the 5chan was proven fake. If Steve was meant to be in the base game, then why wasn't he the limited time freebie DLC character and not Pirahna Plant?!

Why wasn't he one of the final characters revealed in the November Direct? Why didn't his series get even ONE spirit in World of Light?

Ask yourselves this Stevefags and then you'll understand why your Roblox rip-off character will NEVER be a Smash Bros fighter. ;)

>steve
>kino
go back to your skydoesminecraft let's plays, tard

What did Rayman ever do to you? Be French?

>Steve and Erdrick
>Kino

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Another one of these list shitposts.

>the shitposter's guide to which characters to shitpost for and against

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But I want both Crono and Erdrick

Dude MEME potential lmao!
I sure love you underages!

no we actually turned 18 last year, we're allowed to be here now

He's almost confirmed at this point.

this, and he'll be actually confirmed within the next like week, next week at the latest.

A Nindie just got announced, and main directs always follow....so Erdrick in a few weeks. Aim mid April.

what a waste of a dlc slot.

memes are mainstream now, you got to accept that

kill yourself. go back to instagram.

So, are the Rare Spirits still in the game files?

don't you think you're a little old to be shitposting about videogames on an anime imageboard, get a job or a girlfriend or something

Just so y'all know, /vg/ has a competitive smash discord.

discord.gg/eA4wHVC

>discord
kill yourself

>y'all
Kill y'allself

He isn't tho, most smash bros fans would rather take Banjo over Steve

AHAHAHAHA

NEVER EVER ERDRICK KEKS

E3

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>y'all

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>Chazo shilling his autism discord in Yea Forums because /ssbg/ isn't buying it
LOL

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Obviously this one:

youtube.com/watch?v=qkyZSG2ZF9Y

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Some of us are actually from the south and actually use tnis sensible word, thank you very much

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Never mind I read the post you were responding to you are correct

The Manga version of this guy is already in Jump Force
That alone is enough effort in Square's eyes to take a break for the next twenty years
You're not getting a SE rep in smash or anything else

spirits:
>Erdrick (art: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate)
songs:
>Overworld Theme (NES)
>Battle Theme (NES)
That'll be $5.99 + tip :)

>Y-you don't actually like the character!
cope

none because your stupid garbage boomer character who nobody loves or remembers will ever be in this game.

Go back to 1882 you fucking troglodyte half-breed.

>cryposting
touched a nerve, did we

>Quoting shit I never said
You alright bud?

Why do we care about this generic space marine, again?

>One of the craziest shits that happened in 2017
>Not in Smash in any form

hmm

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Let Klonoa in.

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E3

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what

a half-American half-Japanese invention for extra points

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E3

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>Ken was part of the leak
>still made it in
based

E3

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I don't know who the third guy is in the top row, but I agree with this.

Be fair to the Grinchfags. Pic related being all there is left to show was a morbid joke until Sakurai Daimao tore the sky ajar and brought down the crushing weight of its reality onto them like lightning raining down on the hapless.

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>most smash bros fans would rather take Banjo over Steve
That's wrong. Most Smash fans don't really have a preference and would probably enjoy both.

youtube.com/watch?v=ECewrAld3zw

Isaac getting dragged kicking and screaming into an eternal night was immensely satisfying to watch. Golden Sun received an execution order.

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>Crash
Based

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>would probably enjoy both

Subjective opinion. Banjo top 5's many unofficial polls. Ugly Steve render spammers don't count.

>calling a hoax a leak

>unofficial polls
wow
I bet this information is very reliable

Yep

Unofficial polls are also a dumb citation due to being, well, unofficial.

>Joker
>Porky
>Lip
>Ryu Hayabusa
>Phoenix Wright
Find a flaw.

>Porky
>Lip

Porky had his chance in the base roster, where no one would have to pay money.
>Lip
This is all you get

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>Porky
>Lip
>Ryu Hayabusa
>Phoenix Wright
there, found them

Until we get the official ballot results it's the best info we got. It's unofficial, but some cover a +1000 voter sample size. Not much, but it's something.

Lots of prominent youtubers proclaim that they want Banjo as well. Anytime I hear Steve being mentioned as an unironic pick people just cringe. Minecraft sells big, but you barely hear anyone shill for the default skin to be a mainline fighter. Heck, the environment, weapons, and the Creepers are far more iconic than Steve. Minecraft is about the world you create, not the skin you are piloting. Monster Hunter got Rathalos to rep the series since the name of the game is hunting giant monsters. Minecraft should be repped in kind as a Mii costume since skin customization is a part of what you do with your Avatar.

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Literally still more than anything KH related

reach harder grinchy

Kingodm Farts has noisily passed with severe staining. It's over.

That was literally 5ch saying they found it on reddit.

>Until we get the official ballot results it's the best info we got.
No, it is not. These unofficial ballots are basically useless since they don't accurately represent the Smash Bros fanbase. Only people who browse Smash Bros places would have ever voted on these unofficial ballots. Most Smash fans don't browse places like that and just casually play the game.

>look mom I posted it again, I never miss a thread!

Honestly as long as Lip's Stick is confirmed as an item, she is never getting in.

She would make a great addition too. Shame shes never been officially implemented into the West besides minor references in games like ACNL and Smash.

decent points, but which prominent youtubers want Banjo

>Papa "Grinch leak is real trust me I have sources" Genos

>Banjies are unironically using e-celebs as a reason or why their character should be in
Youch

>hypefag

No they're not. No one likes ecelebs.

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Samefag
Stevefags are officially extinct.

Notice how much time was spent on DQ in the last direct, they really do want DQ to be popular in the west

sorry fag, i only made a joke with steve then said i'd be fine with him being a mii costume, try again.

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I'm only two of these

Oh well we're gonna be getting a DQV themed stage and music selection actually, because we're not getting Loto you retarded bandwagoning Smashnigger

Verge 'My sources say the new Zelda game will have nothing to do with Link's Awakening' Ben
You know, the man who said his sources saw Minecraft content in the base game?

>First the N64 mini died
>Now they're saying the gamepass on switch is a hoax

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>duck hunt

Also ridley got in due to fans but not because of West VS east but rather giving Sakurai a push to make him work in smash

Gamepass is still in the rumor phase. Not debunked yet

Banjo is part of the Fighters Pass but there's nothing I can show or tell you that will make you believe me.

Good point, but I could still see Banjo being high in the ballot, since characters like King K Rool was very high in the ballot

But we know that characters like Simon and Bayonetta did well on the official ballot but they're hardly in any unofficial ballots. You can't trust it.

>if i act like an insider, i'll for sure trick them!

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>retards still believe faggot leakers
Erdrick! More like Brainsick!

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based what's-his-name poster, I never watched chowder(?)

>retards still don't believe faggot leakers
Incineroar is going to spitroast you again

Even Soccerguy knows how obscure she is, and it hasn't changed since the 64 era. Which is also why Ayumi Tachibana didn't make it. "Who" you ask? Exactly.

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Why do people keep posting this garbage? First of all, there's 0 new information here that has been confirmed. Second, he says like 3 posts down that his source is "reddit".Third, this mysterious reddit poster somehow has access to information from Nintendo, Sony, Square Enix and Tecmo. It's absurd.

actually a lot of it has been confirmed, this was posted way back in early December

The 5ch leak with just Joker and Erdrick is probably real, but the other one is most likely fake

the one with all the other stuff came first

We already knew that DQ11S would be released in 2019. We know that we're getting more information about P5R this month, but getting released 3 months later? No way.

Vergeben is claiming that theres another Zelda game coming out this year before Links Remakening. If hes right about that he would score a lot of points.

He's also implying Steve was planned for the base game, but got held off for DLC. Coincidentally every other notable leak that features Steve claims something similar.

So before he loses credit there, he still has a chance to redeem himself (or fuck up even harder).

He did shit the bed with Starfox though.

Retarded memelord/10

Could they just be different people, plus I doubt that a character that was going to be in the base roster would take this long to be reveal, or at least would have some left over data in the game

Once you’ve played Duck Hunt, you’ve played them all

Nigga, Smash needs more duos than swords

8/10 but I do think a Dragon Quest rep would be a good idea to have

there actually is evidence of a character cut during development, but besides that it's pretty clear why they would delay that reveal:
Steve would be a representative of Microsoft, breaking the barrier of console manufacturers would be the biggest thing Smash has ever done, they will absolutely be saving him as the crown jewel of their E3 press conference.

Unironically agree.

>still expecting another Square character after how Cloud just barely made it back

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Where is the evidences and why would they take out Steve codename but keep Brave and Jack, unless Steve is one of those codenames

>there actually is evidence of a character being cut during development
source: your ass

>after how Cloud just barely made it back
Post proof of Cloud barely making it back. People say that Square wanted Cloud to be DLC again but that's obviously bullshit.

They might have wanted to put Steve in the original development plan but maybe it didn't take off. Probably didn't even work on him if it's true.

I want this
Fuck banjofags and fuck stevefags

Because most of the posters here are impatient as fuck and need something to fill the void.

Banjo is one of the most boring bandwagon characters to rally behind. Nobody wants Banjo because he can shoot eggs and do generic punches, they're only in it for "hype"

This
Banjo is boring as shit.

some shit about a missing folder number in between the first party newcomers I saw on twitter, I doubt it was Steve regardless because of that

I just want Dante in. Is that all a man can ask for?

Wasnt that the plant?

Maybe, but we really don't have any evidences to prove it and you can say that for any character. Maybe Doomguy was going to be in the base roster but delay for dlc

No, plant is at the end of the list

>halo is probably coming switch this year
Either I'm way out-of-the-loop or you're a mouthbreathing ape unaware of the world around you. Can you elaborate? I'd love to be wrong in thinking you're retarded.

Dante would be great but I doubt it
I think Banjo would be nice to have, would be a fun and charming character, and his first two games are pretty good

Vergeben claimed Minecraft content was originally base game, and is now DLC.
Hitagi claimed the same
Xenother claims the same and claims to have a source that "tested Steve in a build of the game"
The 5ch leak says the same.

If Steve is real, he was really in the base game at one point and is being held back for DLC.

They put the absolute bare minimum to represent FF and Sakurai said the "Everyone is Here!" plan almost didn't happen.

After Leon, maybe.

Its not such an absurd idea to think that they could have had something done on steve that would be held off for later considering the guy is made of boxes

>and Sakurai said the "Everyone is Here!" plan almost didn't happen.
And how is that proof that Cloud didn't happen? It's just a theory.

Why wouldn't he be the first DLC then if he was apparently already in a testable state months ago?

Capcom and Konami let a ton of their shit be used, Sega's always been weird with how Sonic can be represented but would never straight up refuse for him to be in the game, while Square, like I said, let them use the bare fucking minimum for Cloud.

Nintendo wanted Joker first. I don't think Vergeben, Hitagi and Xenother have accurate information though. The 5ch leak just says he was planned and pushed back for DLC, this could have happened in the planning phase.

see saving him for E3 since he's the most major announcement

While I can't say much for the other insiders, Vergeben leaks are usually hit or miss, he was right and wrong on some fighterz stuff, plus if he was tested, Steve would probably still have some left over data

Bullshit. Steve is NOT in the game. He would have been the first DLC character and not Piranha Plant if that were the case not to mention any references to him would have long since been datamined by this point.

there's rare spirits in the files

The rare spirits could either be Nintendo thinking they own them or a hint of Microsoft content, but it's most likely Nintendo thinking that have the rights

>games started on the DS, critically acclaimed
>got recent ports, including one to the Switch
>can do crazy creative shit with pins
>eclectic urban soundtrack kino
>KH3 featured not-Shibuya not too long ago
Yeah, I'm thinking he's in as a Player in a new Game...

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I never said he was, I said there was evidence of a cut character. More importantly, no, he wouldn't have been first regardless of previous development. They aren't gonna drop their bombshell with as little attention as PP got, and Microsoft sure as hell wouldn't let them give it away for free.

Literally who

>banjo fags backed yuck and laylee and smeared it after release
>thinking they're still around
Ew, think I might totally hurl from the smell of these shitty picks! Yup I'm gonna barf for realz!! >:×

>not caring for based Neku
looks like he's got an shit opinion

He's coming

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>what is Dai in Jump forced meme
Does he look floaty to you faggot or does he like he has weight to his movements?

Based

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The cut character could be anyone, also, if insiders are saying that he was playable, then there should be at least some kind of Steve data

I dream for the day we can have this on the box unironically.

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The worst part about Shantae not getting in is that, between Fighter Gear, Pirate Gear and magic/items, she would have had an awesome movelist.

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Krool already has pirate gear sweetie

Shantae would be nice

Daily Reminder that any list that doesn't feature Leon S. Kennedy is automatically fake.

>We already lost out on the trifecta of Playable Dante, Boss Vergil, and Assist Trophy Nero slam-dunking people from across the map

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What would Dante final smash, music, and spirits be

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>Sin DT Nuke for the final smash
>Music from 3,5,4
>Lady, Trish, Lucia, Morrison, Nico, Kyrie, V, his summons, maybe some bosses for spirits
>Stage would be the top of Temen ni gru or the top of the Qliphoth

Realistically, what are his chances? or a TF2 rep in general?

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Pretty low since Nintendo has no reason to partner up with Valve.

True but it's not Nintendo technically speaking right? It's Sora Unlimited

Absolutely none.

It actually is Nintendo picking the DLC. This is the first time that Sakurai wasn't the one in charge of picking characters. Sakurai's can only deny a character if he doesn't think he can turn them into a fighter.

that seems like it would work pretty well

Oh I didn't know, okay gotcha

>a human without a gun
Convince me please. Leon sounds like a good idea on paper but that would be boring.

It's a shame. It'd be cool to see Heavy in Smash.

>Heavy
a TF2 rep would be a dream come true, Heavy is the most iconic but the offense classes have more move-set potential imo
Also Dedede is based

2B would make a unique SE rep and Spyro deserves a spot way more than crash

>Sword
>unique

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I think you just perfectly described why I don't want crash in smash

We have almost another year for it to come out. Only 4 more characters isn’t a huge amount there’s lots of times so savor it a little.

>Simultaneously BTFOing banjofags and stevefags
Sign me the fuck up

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