Worse graphics

Multiplayer lobbies stay fuller and stay alive longer.
more people with consoles than pcs

>The PS4 pro can run 4K graphics for 300 bucks.
no it can't
even mgs, a last gen port, only manages to run at 1440p
the ps4 pro is a decent console but it certainly isn't a 4k machine

Leave my blu ray player alone.

What, it certainly runs multiple titles at that resolution.

2160x3840.

Switch has a lot of bomb exclusives
Can play it in bed super comfy
Can bring it to friends places without a suitcase full of cords
Joycons can be held without a grip to be comfy
Pro controller for switch is second best controller on the market behind xbone

Loving my PS4 3 years later and still having fun

Can't wait for PS5

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Can you name even one PS4 game that runs at native 4k? Nearly every game that claims to be 4k is just upscaled or checkerboarded.

it’s easier, don’t have to worry about whether or not a game is going to run with your specs

Bloodborne is my favorite game of all time. only reason I own a console

>all the hottest titles from current gen is worth it
Resident Evil and DMC are on PC, unless that by "hottest of this generation" you mean trash like Spider-Man, if that's the case then fuck you brainlet.

You can’t read motherfucker stop posting

>listing a fucking remake and a retarded slash em up game as hottest titles of current gen
kys you retarded nigger

Imagine being so autismal you need to waste hundreds of dollars extra to be able to render sweat drops and more blades of grass

1. Most of the best games of all time are Playstation/Nintendo exclusives
2. Fighters are dead on PC except Tekken which is kept afloat by Koreans who don't play other fighters
3. You cannot get an equivalent PC at the same price
4. less of a hassle to deal with playing on a big screen/couch
5. Console only multiplats like RDR2
6. Games are generally less buggy and rely less on user mods

Better than an Arkham bootleg with even worse gameplay.

lol the same faggot from the last thread, GoW is nothing like arkham. Keep trying to spread it though you buttblasted monkey

You sound poor.

Consoles are for poorfags, though.

Ghost of Tsushima, not gow

>but le 4k
Needs a $1200 TV to run it on champ. By that point I've spent more than I would on a top of the range dektop.

You can buy a pc stronger then a modern console for 500 bucks and get games for free.
The real reason is that consoles are the equivalent of fast food.

Only having a single platform is for poorfags.

Bingo.

>You can buy a pc stronger then a modern console for 500 bucks
You can't, unless you're talking about base PS4 and Xbox.

there aren't $200 of PS4 games worth playing desu

>The PS4 pro can run 4k graphics
There's basically zero difference between FHD and 4k on PS4, except that 4K content runs like shit and you have to be very selective about your 4K TV to get minimal input lag.

>and a retarded slash em up game

He wasn't talking about God of War user

I'm talking about that shitty Spider-Man game not GoW

I got my 4K HDR TV 2017 black friday for $370, it's not 2014 anymore

more like 400 for 1440p

Physical copies, aka owning your games. Avoiding Nvidia and AMDs bullshit.

>worse graphics

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you don't own a game you can only play on one specific drm box
you do own a game you can play on any hardware and mod at your leisure

>massive day one patches
You’re not getting your full game when you buy it physical

Consoles are good side bitches. You have ton of cool exclusives etc, ease of use and so on pc. PC is for that high end, like playing Metro Exodus in 1440p120 or Sekiro in 4k60

>no mods
That's a good thing.

Brainlet, you can get budget 55" tcl for $400. My 2028 lg 49" 4k model cost $420

So pirated PC games and roms only? Steam is a license rental service.
Only if you play western AAA tripe where that's considered ok.

>implying that current gen is emulatable

Monster Hunter World
Project diva: Future tone
Gravity Rush 2
Horizon zero dawn

That's from the top of my head, more recently released titles have this support, God of War too i think. I don't care That much about 4K, if it runs smooth at 1080p it's already fine for me given the price of a PS4 Pro. At this point "muh grafix" is pretty much irrelevant unless you're talking about VR because that sexually has a noticeable difference.

T. Oculus owner.

Physical media is restricted by licenses too. It just doesn't matter because it's pathetically easy to break the terms of the license. So why doesn't that count for digital media?

> sexually
I mean't actually, probably the love hormones still in my blood, lel.

If you're not a piratefag then consoles are the way to go. You can borrow many current gen games from the library, rent new releases and breeze through them for a pittance and physical copies go down in price so much nowadays it's easy to most titles for less than what they would be digitally on PC after a bit of waiting time.

I'll let you think about what people can do with discs vs. their digital licenses for a bit longer.

>pro patches
>free updates
>performance fixes
All relevant for Japanese games

There are lists online for native 4k PS4Pro games.
Most sports games are native 4k.

He doesn't emulate what? lmao

Name a Japanese game that's received a 10 or even 5+ gigabyte patch like Ubishit.

>Monster Hunter World
1800p
>gravity rush 2
pseudo-4k, all pixel shaders render at 4
>hzd
checkerboarded

literally the only game on the list that runs at native 4k is miku

Damn I sure am glad I bought a 4k console to play sportsball.

*render at 1080p.

Mine was 200 bucks tho, lol.

> Buy Sony TV which happened to be 700 bucks.
> get a 200 bucks e-reader with it
> sell e-reader
> sell old 3D television for 300 bucks.

It isn't that expensive if you know how to properly merchant.

> Damn I sure am glad I bought a 4k console to play sportsball
Still better than nothing, lmao.
What was the last relevant PC game?

>if it runs smooth at 1080p

ps4 pro works best at 1080p imo

good downsampling and you can choose between image quality and performance. I just wish I could choose which game individually uses supersampling so I don't need to go through 6 menus to change it between games.

Worse graphics lol

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>no bloodborne on PC

That's why

what's so(y)nydrones deal with cropped ultrawide?

PC simply can't seriously compete with just 2D monitor graphics anymore. Unless you're running VR there isn't a reason to own a PC which is 700 bucks more expensive. For gaming that is.

Bloodborne.
It was pretty much worth it for just that game alone. Much like DeS for ps3.

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Don't act dumb user. You can emulate any game from the ps3 (kind of) downwards with ease.

>exclusives.
>drasticly less cheaters.
>cheap.

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>current year
>not an idort
>instigating platform wars
>PCfag
wew lad
Why would you go and lie on the internet.

Why does size matter? If a day one patch is 2 MB’s but it makes the game run better, then why even bother with physical?

ps2 emulation is still shit

Lol what? Every game I throw at it works fine.

>any

xenosaga 1 and tales of abyss are shit on pcsx2. Sly games are almost unplayable, I don't dare try shadow of the colossus

I don't know how to build a PC. I don't want to learn how, that's too much effort for video games. I don't want to upgrade my graphics card to be able to run newer games when I could just get a PS4 Pro or something. PC gaming just isn't for me. I want the simplicity of console.

And Xbox, and N64, and Dreamcast isn't great. Saturn emulation is good now though.

>less space than any decent PC
>doesnt need a dedicated space and can just fit on a shelf
>way less cables
>doesnt need a monitor and just plugs into your PC
>some of the most critically acclaimed games are exclusives
>play big brand games without having to worry about fiddling with the settings
consoles are just the smooth choice

also
>Playing a couple of exclusives sounds like a retarded reason
yea OP. playing games is really a retarded reason...

>ps2 emulation is still shit
n-no? Ps3 emulation needs some work though. DeS will tank to a slideshow whenever there are particle effects like breaking shit and explosions.

>make way for the best console ever made.

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>I don't like certain games even though they're critically acclaimed so they don't count.

>I'm also a faggot

>my handful of games seem to work well so ps2 emulation is good
Not even close.

>giving a fuck about critics
>video game critics

Fucking retard

Your obscure porn doujins don't count

Xenosaga works fine for me though? Are you one of those brainlets who can't comprehend the use of the settings menu?

Yep worse

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If PC is such a great choice, why PC faggots come port begging for every game which is not on PC?

>caring about quality of 3D graphics past 6th gen
some people not into licking rock textures and want to play games instead

>any game

half the fucking save points cause the emulator to crash, there are no work fixes and it has to be circumvented via save states. If something as small as this is an issue in an early ps2 game, the emulator is heavily flawed

console
>fps is a joke. impossible to aim so every game has aim assist (aimbot)
>30 fps, 60 if lucky. (inb4 human eye cant see past 7 fps, the difference between 60 fps and 144 fps on a 144hz monitor is night and day)
>no mods
>no torrenting
>$20 a month to play online
>have to use a shitty controller that hurts your hands instead of a natural feeling mouse and keyboard
>cant play previous gen games for free or nearly free
really if you defend console youre just a poorfag or an incredibly naive retard whos never had a pc. The only reason to get a console would be for VERY FEW exclusives (which are coming to PC more and more by the year).

this is a ps4 tho

The save points don't cause the emulator to crash for me. Guess ts just an issue on your end :^]

its cheap as fuck, i never regret buying a console because it was just 300 euros and whenever i dont want to play i just put it in the cupboard.

google search "xenosaga pcsx2", one of the first options is save problem

It's $10 a month for online and if you're not a retard you can get a year of Plus/Live for $40.

t. third worlder with a „gaming laptop“

oh and the beach of nothingness cutscenes would sometimes not play

>playing fps
>caring about framerate in anything but fighting games
>modding the game cause it's so bad, some fucking randos managed to get it better
>he thinks piracy doesn't exist on consoles, how cute
>that is actual shit, but you added extra 0 in that price faggot
>depends on a genre fag, everything aside of RTS and FPS works fine
>you don't play them anyway

>$20 a month to play online
Where the fuck did you get this inflated figure, faggot?

actually i play counter strike on a 240hz monitor getting 400 fps on every map and games consoles could NEVER run like escape from tarkov but nice try?

>Compare best looking PC game to game that is far from the best looking on console
This shit again kek

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>third worlder
>can buy a PC with better graphics than a PS4

What is your excuse you dumb ghetto nigger?

>really if you defend console youre just a poorfag or an incredibly naive retard
imagine getting this worked up over millions of people playing videogames on a different machine

so it's because you're retarded, makes sense.

>20 bucks

bro even if you pay monthly its only 10 yearly is 5 a month

(you)

>can use kb+m which is infinitely superior for many genres, and you can still plug in a controller for things like side scrollers etc
>higher frame rates, try going from 144fps back to 30fps
>Native 4K resolutions on every game, no compromises with textures or other settings
>Mods that can extend the life of your game by 1000's of hours for free
>Can pirate everything, or take advantage of key trading and crazy sales
>Can be used for other applications other than games, most people buy a computer as well as a console anyway
>Don't have to pay for online twice
>Once you have your first build, you can just sell and swap out your graphics card every 5-8 years and still get better performance than consoles
>if you have a job building a computer isn't a problem

thanks, now i can die happy that a retard like you will never experience the joy of higher refresh rate monitors.

buying a new console is retarded, but you're ignoring the actual major benefit

>wait until console has been out for 3+ years
>it is now $150 at pawn shops
>get $50 tv to go along with it since used pawn shop tvs die every console generation or before anyway

basically $200 to play vidya and trivial costs for games if you buy them on sale, it is way cheaper than PC will ever be even if you pirate all the PC games. the only downside to this is if you want to play online multiplayer on games that came out early in the console's life that are now dead, but all the games I like are still alive and well so whatever. I have done this multiple times, I could get a PC or a new console but I don't bother, I'll just get it when it's cheap because I can

>i play shit game for toaster pcs at 400fps
Congrats

>PCfags seething cause no physical copies

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a game so shit that they have never changed the core gameplay and its still one of the most popular games over 20 years later

pc has huge problems with cheaters and for me personally the ability to cheat in single player is killing games on pc for me because i cant resist cheating.

Hardly a mystery when there’s literally nothing nothing to play for pc subhumans

Then I guess fortine and legue of legends are the games of the decade

Lol, i bet you play counter strike you nerd faggot.

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Hahaha holy shit i was right.

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fortnite and league are not going to be played in 10 years
yeah i do buddy whats it to ya

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My fat futa cock

Why wxactly do you care about what machine do other people play games on?

>Ps4 randomly starts ejecting games at 4am

Bros do I have to send this shit in for repair?

>So is there ANY logical reason to buy a console?
No.

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Best exclusives, plug and play, cheap, big userbase, don't need to invest every 2 years to keep things up to date
If you can't accept those reasons or just flat out deny the quality of the exclusives then you're a retard. Console and PC have ups and downs and thrashing one or the other exposes you as a miserable faggot

It developed wet dreams

yeah. games are made for consoles. pc has no games

>fortnite and league are not going to be played in 10 years
Says (you)
And what if they do? Then what?
Being played for 20 years suddenly makes then good?

Its telling you to stop playing shit games

Yeah, sure whatever. I'm not going to learn how to build a PC when I can just plug a box into my wall and play video games. If that triggers you maybe you should go suck a dick.

>i use pc hardware and peripherals worth 2000eur to get better graphics than a 300eur console
>take that retarded consolefags!

Finally a voice of reason

I was simply responding to the claim that their is no other reason to own a computer over console. Stating facts doesn't mean I care what you spend your money on

I have both, stop being poor OP

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CS is fucking garbage. It always has been. Only nerdy as fuck pussy faggots and 12 year olds play that shit

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PC is infested cheaters these days. To many subhumans on the platform.

>literally forced to upgrade every 2 years to the next $700 dollar console
dont forget to pay your $50 dollar a month good goy tax for trying to play your games online

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>i cant resist cheating.
underage

Lol

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There has never been a $700 console in existence, what third world country do you live in where a console costs that much?
>$50 a month
oh, he's trolling

>Tech demos would be used in games if there weren't any consoles
Lmao. Consoles do the opposite of keeping us back. PC doesn't stop developing because of consoles, instead we have big companies like Sony and Microsoft who invest heavily in making as big a jump as possible in a way where R&D for new tech solutions are actually worth implementing because there is a market that can foot the bill.
In reality, exclusive console games make the most in terms of advancing technology during the early years of the console life cycle.

You mean graphics card right?.... are you doing a bit? Or are you genuinely retarded?

>Everyone has PC only
>Publishers and Devs now know this
>Becomes the new mobile phone level of trash and hardware progress will slow down since everyone has the same platform so why bother trying?
>Everything will become F2P trash too

Be careful what you wish for.

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>not being an idort in 2019
Haha imagine being this poor.

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Autistic Gambling addict kids. Gotta buy that sweet butt plug skin in counter strike.

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>bought my 1070 3 years ago
>can still get 144 frames 1440p on my competitive games, and over 60 on high settings on my single player games
yawn...

cs is better than any console shooter

probe me wrong

naw i prefer my 30 fps console shooters where everyone has a built in aimbot

That may all be true but you're forgetting consoles greatest strength.
>No little faggots like you are on it.

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Sauce

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Are you... replying to your self?

consoles are for people who don't care
they just want to buy a box, stick their credit card in, and go
they don't care that the games run and look like shit, they don't care that the overall experience is more limiting, it's just a cheap and easy way to play games

I guess consoles do have exclusives, but as someone who mainly plays PC it's really hard to take notice because it'll always just be a drop in a lake compared to the sheer volume of software PC has access to
The real boon for consolefriends is that they don't need to care, consoles are essentially like buying apple products; you buy an inferior product but it doesn't require you to take care of it, it just goes and when it breaks it's someone else's problem

Yeah this stagnation is great. Haven't had a gpu this long since my 290.

I have 2 monitors 4k and 1440p. Honestly i like the larger 4k hdr one more than the 144hz....

>paying for worse performance and 60 bucks a pop for games, most of which are multiplat anyway
lol

>Have 30 games installed from steam
>Still emulate defjam on ps2
Consoles are the ones who get playedmost and again 'lol" at run and look like shit. DMC5 runs at1800p and 60fps on Pro + hdr. Looks mint. Same for ps4 exclusives,allare tightcb 4k30 with amazing hdr. Sucks youhavent seen them or played properly

All worth the sacrifice to play with significantly less cheaters.

Why would anyone poor buy a console? Games cost $70 each. No poor people can feed the hobby on a console.

>1080p
>60fps
>30fps

>"mint"

>consoles are for people who don't care
True
>they just want to buy a box and go
Yes
>they don't care that the games run and look like shit
Some do, that's what the 4k consoles are for which are still far cheaper than PC and preserve the plug and play concept.
>they don't care that the overall experience is more limiting
They're still playing video games, it doesn't need to be 120fps to be enjoyable. 60fps or a locked 30 will suffice.
>it's just a cheap and easy way to play games
Yes, it is. And the exclusives are an added bonus.

The entry fee is much lower and preowned games are dirt cheap.

smaller initial cost and less potential for costly issues to crop up that need time and money to fix
computers have a daunting initial cost that puts people off, plus you actually have to know what you're doing to get the most out of it

I told you to stop posting motherfucker you can’t read shit bitch

You are assuming

1.everyone lives in the same country with the same game prices on consoles
2.everyone buys console games within the first month
3.Sales don't occur both physical and digital

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>buying games at launch
>not waiting until they hit the under $20 bargain bin range or digital sales

Ugh do I have to do the math again? I worked it out last time, over the lifetime of the console, a PC works out to be cheaper. And thats assuming you never buy replacement controllers and only buy 1 AAA game every 6 months.

The "4k consoles" are bullshit. The PS4 Pro can only run last gen ports and sports games at 4k. The Xbone X is better, but still falls short - AC7 only runs at 1080p on both platforms, for example.

fwiw I don't give a fuck about 4k, I just want the game to run smoothly. I'm glad many games are adding "performance mode" toggles but I wish they'd go the whole way and give us sliders for everything.

>waiting 2 years for playing a game you want
Just further incentive to get a pc instead.

I don't buy games new and I don't play online. The console works out cheaper for me.

>resolution is the only thing that determines whether or not the image looks like shit
>60 fps or a locked 30 will suffice
>framerate is the ONLY limiting factor

>fwiw I don't give a fuck about 4k, I just want the game to run smoothly. I'm glad many games are adding "performance mode" toggles but I wish they'd go the whole way and give us sliders for everything.
That's what I meant. I play on a 1080p TV and got a Pro exclusively for the higher frame rate options.

Most games drop to $20 within six months and I have a backlog anyway, what kind of normie are you where you literally play one game at launch every month?

Plus, it's no longer easy to use and exclusive is dying. There is literally no reason to buy it anymore.

Horrible graphics yes. lack of space yes. and sounds like a harrier taking off on large games.

my current PC build was about 1200 bucks and I've been using it roughly since PS3 launch
I upgraded to a 1070 a few months ago for the same price as a console and I can run games at 100+ fps

I know most users aren't savvy enough to make the most out of their computers, but in the right hands a computer build isn't that expensive comparatively
I'm still technically paying more than I would for a console pro but I'm also getting a shitton more performance

That's simply false though. Not even GoW has hit 20€/$

So every game that came out before 4k existed has "shit image". Are you high? Art style and frame rate are far more important than resolution, always has been. That's why games like Mega Man aged so well.

AC Odyssey is $25 right now at Best Buy and it hasn't even been six months yet.

-Stock PS4 controller is better than the Switch gamepad, but worse than the Xbone controller.
-82 PS4 exclusives vs 11 Xbone exclusives (and most of those are Kinect games, lol).
-The PS4 generally has better action games, while Xbone has better racing games.
-A well-specced Windows PC generally makes buying an Xbone completely pointless, unless you really love Halo 5 and Rare Replay.
-PS Network and Xbox Live are roughly equal in quality.
-PS4 has Playstation Now, while Xbox has the Game Pass.
-Xbone X is realistically capable of native 4K games at 60fps. PS4 Pro typically either upscales to 4K or is native 4K at 30fps.
-Sony is currently on a censorship spree for sexual content in their games. Microsoft doesn't give a fuck.

Thread should have ended here. Its obvious it was done by a retard.

I was pointing out how absurd it was to imply that implementing 4K alone makes the image quality and experience comparable to PC. I was being sarcastic

>plug in, update console/game, play
whoa, so tough

should've added an /s

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Preordering PS5 as soon as it hits amazon

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GoW was $17 black friday

Not on ps store it wasn't.

>Playing a couple of exclusives sounds like a retarded reason.
well, but that IS the only reason, i bought my ps4 for 1 single game. (it will be 2 in fall)

>buying digital on console
why

If you're not going to account for physical prices you have no right to complain. Sony doesn't drop digital prices significantly on their exclusives until the game gets labelled "greatest hits".

>having to constantly swap out disks
Why

Because most people are too stupid to build a PC.
>b-b-but it's too expensive
>b-b-but there are cheaters and hackers online!
Bullshit, you're just too lazy and or dumb to build one so you spout bullshit you know nothing about so you can hide your insecurities.
Console players (and especially sonyfags) like to think they're "chads" because they console and not PC because apparently we're still living in an 80's teenage sitcom where computer players are white nerdy geeks with clark kent glasses.

>irrelevant platform
lmao yeah, who the fuck owns a computer???
........
........

Nobody. Everyone uses phones now.

digital on console is a bad deal. It costs more and you can do less. Having to get off my fat ass for 10 seconds, something I'm already gonna have to do to pick up the controller, is not an issue.

>play a game, beat the game
>swap disc with another game
>beat that game
The only patrician way to play video games. Stop being an ADD faggot and switching between a dozen games while never completing any of them.

playing PS4 makes my eyes bleed

I am too lazy to build a PC. Those sayings are still true though.

Uhh yeah, people have been using phones ever since they were invented.
The fuck kind of goofy-ass point is that?
Go sit in the corner, you absolute dunce.

I complete all my games on ps4 cause I can't alt tab retard.

how'd you do that?
i just keep switching the hdmi to my pc instead of alt tabbing

1800p60 and cb 4k30

>Yea Forums is full of consolefriends complaining about how shit modern games are
>thread asks why by a console
>consolefriends say so they can play modern games
What's going on here?

based

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Both are shit configurations on the basis of frame rate alone

Sunk cost fallacy, brand loyalty, Stockholm syndrome, plain stupidity, take your pick.

But you didn’t want to play the game

Have you ever heard about fps?

Consoles are only good if you want to play triple A shit. I recently got a ps4 and played all the exclusives, and the only game I liked was a multiplat that will end up on pc in 2 years.
It's been gathering dust next to me for the past 2 months. If i hadnt enjoyed rdr2 so much id honestly regret it. There's nothing to play because I'm not interested in ubishit or ea crap.

I don't know about them but I fucking love modern AAA games. I love retro games too but there's nothing wrong with modern game mechanics. The only real problem is microtransactions and that's mostly in online shit. Most of the recent games I've liked don't have those anyway. At least I'm not a hypocrite.

I know its a constant meme at this point but did you check out Bloodborne? It was the only title that actually felt it was worth buying the system for, much like DeS on the ps3.

Are you being so outrageous on purpose?
>I played all exclusives
>Dont care for ea and ubisoft
>Would regret if not for rdr2

If there's a game you really want to play but it's only on consoles then I will go out a buy that console
I hate but there's no chance in hell bloodborne or persona 5 is getting pc releases

No, why? I liked bloodborne too.

>So is there ANY logical reason to buy a console?
Nope, not really.
By this point every non-retard should be owning a PC. I guess if you really want to play those 2 or 3 Switch/PS4 games you probably own one on the side but i can't imagine having a nu-gen console as my main gayman paltform.

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Convenience. I don't have to deal with a million glitches or bugs like PC gamers do, and it's easier to play games on my big TV and that's really all I give a shit about. I have horrendous luck with technology - PCs in general - and there are very few games I've gotten to run perfectly on them.

Every new release on PC is filled to the brim with people bitching and whining about how shit everything is, how nothing works, everyone looking for fixes etc. I just don't have the time for crap like that.

I don't need the prettiest graphics. Just let me play my weeb games in peace.

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I do the same
Hopefully my monitor won’t rip from that

Bloodborne?

As mainno, but each console excluding xbox one has A LOT of worthy exclusives. Hell, both consoles have a lot of shit onthe eay, astral chain,fire emblem, bayo 3,smt Vfor switch. Judgment, aegis rim, babylons fall, tlou,ds,tsushima, days gone, dreams, concrete genie, nioh 2, granblue fantasy relink and versus for ps4 alone

Yeah but you're still retarded, any over 50 pieces lego set is more complicated to build than a pc

>I hate but there's no chance in hell bloodborne or persona 5 is getting pc releases
Oh maybe people can stop being such retards and stop buying consoles just to play those games, forcing them to release it to pc.

I hate it, is such a dishonest tactic, people get outraged over silly shit like "biased game reviews" all the time, but developers making console only exclusives just to force people to buy a pointless product(consoles) is ok?? I don't get it at all.

...

If you assemble a lego piece wrong, there's no chance of it being damaged. And you never have to check for what went wrong after you put legos together and they don't turn on.

Glug me no want to modify game me just want to hit button and play. No no no i dont want no tactic game me just want to shoot shoot and be last one standing.

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if you asssemble a computer part wrong you're fucking retarded

CoD from ps4 got more cheaters than Counter Stryke

You maybe had a point at first, but then lost it at the shooters part. PCs are the fucking birthplace of the shooter.

I like to play with friends when they come over, unlike some loser who plays solo on their computer.

How the fuck do you even play co-op or against each other on a fucking computer using keyboard and mouse? Lmfaooo

PC shooters were actually good

>ANY logical reason to buy a console?
As bluray player for movies and some interact movies

Bought my Bloodborne machine back in 2016, regretting it now, I haven't touched it in years.

most games on PS4 Pro are 4k and 60fps
which are also exclusives
and have larger communities

Most based post ITT

>cuck defending having to pay for internet twice

PCs is also the birthplace of tactical shooters and strategy games.
It's consoles that casualized the genre into the simple point and shoot without any depth that you're describing.

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The worst part is that even on consoles, local co-op seems to be dying. I honestly don't even know why the current generation even bothers having multiple controller ports anymore.

>hating on Spidey
double nigger

>photo mode

I also wonder that , I stopped being a console only player at 12, dont these people grow up?

I own a ps4 to play things i can't get on pc, thats about it.

>regurgitated memes

>I have both so I can't have an opinion
Me too, but you know pc is better.

No. You still bought a $700 TV. Selling other things doesn't bring the cost down.

yeah budget, that's about it.

And gimmicks. the ds, 3ds, wii, wii u, and switch are all cool systems
sega used to be the console for arcade ports

If you're expecting people to have a basic grasp of economics 101 you're in the wrong place.

>And a massive desktop isn't?
You will have to get a computer no matter what, bu you can choose to not buy a PS3 and a PS4 and a PS5 and 4 generations of X-box because the cocksuckers that make consoles don't let you play the previous generation consoles on the new versions.

PlayStation is the best

Might cop a bone to not miss out on the MCC and halo reach hype train

I cant afford a PC. Its various up keep costs, have no where to put one in my home and I own consoles (all of which I buy second hand. Usually under half off always staying a gem behind for less then a hundo) but I still want to play games because if I dont I'll probably off myself due to the loss of my S/O, no longer having real life friends and most of my family being dead so fuck you and your PC op

Playing no/shit exclusives even sounds more of a retarded reason.

>most of my family being dead
Are your family genes really that shitty?

Nah but cancer is a bitch, my pops died of a stroke, and my mom did drugs. The only surviving members of my direct family are my grandmother and my brother. Neither of which I get along with

pc gaming just doesnt feel like gaming

gaming to me is not twitch fortnite lol apex legends and pcmr culture

gaming is sitting on a couch and playing with a controller not sitting in a desk

>So is there ANY logical reason to buy a console?
To play more games. Don't be retarded op even if
>worse graphics
>no mods
is true,consoles have exclusives and they are accessible.

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>you can't plug a controller into a PC
>you can't sit on a couch in front of said PC with said controller
>you can't hook your computer up to a big TV if you want to sit far away
>not wanting to have the option between control methods depending on what genre of game you're playing

>you can't sit on a couch in front of said PC with said controller
>you can't hook your computer up to a big TV if you want to sit far away
No one does this.

I just wanted to play bloodborne

this is an outright lies too since with physical games you can shop around more and get brand new games for like 75% of RRP
also resale value
also larger player cases on console - well, PS4 anyway ;)

pc gaming is to me what mobile gaming is to you

doesn't matter. the argument is invalidated by the ability to do this. a better argument in favor of consoles would have been split screen play

Pisspoor

to me mobile gaming is normie female zoomer tier crap, so if top of the line PC gaming is that to you, then what are you doing? quantum PC gaming?

>he doesnt know
hahaha-h-hahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAH

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yes, exclusives

95% are multiplats. Fucking shit taste btw

Im here playing REmake 2 and DMC5 at 1080p 60fps on a £300 comfy machine that suffers no issues with those games, meanwhile there are people online playing the games at 30fps on their machines calling me peasent. Reminder that just because some doods have machines running at 4K 144fps at all times doesn't mean shitters get to call their builds good. Im playing on console and there is nothing you can do about it.

>Resident Evil and DMC are on PC

Yeah but they are also on my Pro. Im not building a PC for games that run on my PS4. See this is the problem. You guys have it twisted here you think its all about what can a console do for a PC owner when in the real world its the opposite.

>these are the people questioning your purchases

I love absolutely arrogantly feeling in the right all the time when discarding your opinions. I dont even TRY to consider your point of view. Feels great to be right all the time.

This is what actual poorfags believe though. They spend what? $1000? And think they have been elevated in the estimation of pther posters? Having money is not about always spending it even if it doesn't hurt you. I could go out and buy 20 4K tvs right fucking now but do i even own one? No, because its a fucking meme and i wont give you shit for one.

If your disc breaks, you don't have shit. Meanwhile if you somehow get your license revoked on PC, there will always be a pirated version circulating the web so you can just download that. Good luck doing that on modern consoles, you're much more of a slave to licensing than PC players are.

I bought P5 on PS4 and not only did it not patch, but it worked the second the disc went it.

This. If PT were released on PC, it wouldn't be so hard to obtain these days.

stay pleb

I have a PC, switch, and PS4

I mainly use the PC for simulators and indie games. Switch and PS4 are for exclusives. My friends group is split between PS4 and PC so I can play with either group now. I don’t play most normie AAA games so graphics don’t matter that much.

>food analogy

>95% are multiplats

Yes, that is the kind of games most console users enjoy playing.

Stay mad that you cannot affect the purchase choices of others. The world is not your sandbox m8, im not building a PC and you cant make me. Only you get mad here, and you shouldn't.

checkmate a ps4 is literally a pc

ok user

Do what you want dude. I don't care.
>hurr u mad
Seems to me the only person who's mad is you considering you're sperging out this hard.

>a couple of exclusives
There are more than "a couple of exclusives," my friend.

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>Console Exclusives
Big Yike. Half of those are on pc

They're talking about current gen, not previous gen.

>shit tier
>star ocean 5
its the currently best and only good ps4 game, and an actual ps4 exclusive, unlike 3/4th of your shitlist

It matters a little, if no one does it because it ends up just being too inconvenient to move your PC around between a desk and a living room setup every time you have a different use for it.
Anyone who does that is going to have a separate device for each situation instead.

Nintendo has better exclusives and you can play them all on PC tbqhfam

Unironically, it's the "comfy" factor. Do I really want to come home after sitting at a desk all day and just do the same thing? I still have my gaming rig but I never use it. I prefer to curl up in a blanket, controller in hand, lights off. Games can be bought just as cheap as on PC too, if you account for physical. I don't play online games, however. It might be worth going to PC just to avoid paying online fees.

And it only took several years to play the ‘latest’ games!

You won't have to install spyware 'services' for every game ever.

>pc: need to upgrade every couple of years if you want to stay at m a x g r a p h i c s
>console: pay once and you're set for the generation

buy a decent pc at the start of the gen and you'll be able to play games released at the end of it
the only reason to buy an new pc mid gen is if you want better graphics. if that's not worth it then you don't have to

go big or go home

So THIS...is the power.....of the PS4....

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rent free

Good enough graphics
Low cost
Physical games
Just Werks

Damn...

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>say stupid shit
>gets called out on your retarded shit
>"h-he regrets his purchase!"
theres nothing more sad than pc cucks, go back to your unity indie games, fagget

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brainlets saying PC is cheaper are arguing in bad faith
lets look at the actual math
>$200-300 base console
no way you're building a capable PC for this much
>but games are $60
the biggest plus for poorfags here is physical copies. I regularly get games I want a few months after release for $20-40
>but you pay for internet
$5 a month, plus 2 free games a month. You save way more on games by getting the free ones too, if you were planning to get them. Just a couple games a year is all it takes to completely offset the cost.

>go big
so don't use a console then

The """free""" games are shit. Saving $5 on some indieshit you were never going to play in the first place that will just clog up your library is worthless.

You're right, though, that it's cheaper on the whole. At least for me, I don't play online and I get everything used.

It isn't true 4k. It's """UHD""". And every game made for it has dynamic resolution downscaling so you.only see it's fake 4k like 10% of the time.

No him, but you'd be hard pressed to build a PC that plays games in 1800p or even 1440p for $400

in just the last 6 months:
modern warfare remastered
MGS4
hitman
zone of the enders HD
steep
soma
god of war 3 HD
destiny 2
try again

>any game
youtube.com/watch?v=cFdDXfstv4M

yeah, all of these I already played or they're trash I see no value in.

>2 free games
>$5 a month
>free

>cheap
>will work for all games for at least 5 years
>braindead simple
There you go.

Bigger player base than on PC in most of the games

Okay retard

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>semantics
still a pretty good value. I was paying for it on my ps3 before you needed it for online so I wasn't too upset about it.

This was a big factor for me, I got sick and tired of playing games with 200 pop

Yeah I don't know why there are people who still make the budget argument for PC. It's really an enthusiast platform but its scalability means that most if not many people playing on PC are poor people trying to play the latest titles on school laptops/hand-me-downs/obsolete hardware. This is the platform you choose if you want a machine that does a lot more than games and have the budget to make it run games really well.

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Portability.

You're actually full of shit. Any modern "low end" PC can play "4K" aka checkerboard 1440p crap at 20-30 fps.
It's just that pcfags have higher standards and aren't willing to settle for variable 15-30fps on low-medium settings. Kill yourself, cunt.

>console normalfags using the 4K argument
It's not real 4K 99% of the time, it's running on medium settings at 20-30fps, sometimes even lower.

I'd understand consolenigger arguments if it was at least constant locked 30fps and true native 4K with at least high graphics, but it's not.
Any RX 570 shitter with a cheap ryzen 4 core CPU can play at "4K" and low-medium settings at 20-30fps.

>Yeah I don't know why there are people who still make the budget argument for PC.
Because your chart whos that the vast majority of people have budget machines? Retard.

1. Consoles are more expensive per computing power.
2. They are severely limited in their applications, the control devices and in their range of available games.
3. They are easier to set up.
4. They have exclusive titles.
5. PCs can emulate though.

In Conclusion, I expect it's due to how streamlined the process is. Your specs are defined, every game will run, pop it in, it works.

>every game will run, pop it in, it works.
>poorly

I'l admit I actually like the UI for the PS4.
That and the controller gets way less dirty compared to my mouse and keyboard.

>PCs can emulate though
If you think ps4/bone emulation is anywhere near playable yet, or will be within the next 5 years, I have a bridge to sell you.

they don't even have games

Consoles exist to keep all the spics and niggers away from PC.
Stop shitting on them, I don't want more retards flooding PC, it's already bad enough as it is.

>vast majority
Nice job using a qualifier to both misrepresent what I said and attempt to hide the fact that you're incapable of addition.

This. It's like Call of Duty, it keeps the trash away.

> Playing a couple of exclusives sounds like a retarded reason
>playing [video games] sounds like a retared reason to play [video games]
What did this massive faggot mean by this?

only legitimate reasons are price, social reasons, and convenience.

pc is objectively better.

>bloodborne
>gravity rush
>second son
>tetris effect
>omega collection
>yakuza 6
>horizon zero dawn
these are just the ones I've played on ps4 and know aren't shit. There's more coming too:
>dreams
>ff7 remake
>death stranding

here let me remove all the trash and ports
>bloodborne
>yakuza

Literally me. Bought my PS3 for Demons Souls alone. Had a PC for next gen and bought PS4 for BB. Doing another BB this week (no online, no summoning) to get ready for sekiro. Feels cash man

>kind of

bloodborne

>a couple of exclusives
weestaboo spotted

>my competitive games
>my single player games
Fortnite and Minecraft arent exactly difficult games to render graphically user

>3d dot game heroes
My man got good taste

>cheaters/hackers online
>pretending like this isnt a big deal on pc
Quite literally this is a reason to play certain games/genres on console desu

>not playing BB every month since 2016
Goddamn fucking casuls in this bih

>multiple controller ports
Bruh its 2019, everything's wireless, those arent ports; they just for usb charging

Imagine not playing the best game of the gen simply because it has frame drops (in old builds no less)
>BIG YIKES

>I own ps4, pc, switch
>Agree with this image so hard
Still not enough of a poorfag not to have bought a ps4. Feels good, playing some BB later

>i aLrEaDy pLaYeD iT
Not everyone else did you neet fuck, your fault for paying for those games before they were free for plus

Why the salt Pc bros? Why do you care why don’t you complain about low end pc gamers or mobile games. I don’t give a shit about other people’s toys.

You don't build a PC to just be a little stronger than moern consoles tho.
You build a PC that can absolutey obliterate the consoles in term of framerate competition, otherwise you just built a slightly better looking console.

>pcworld.com/article/3200767/xbox-one-x-pc-build.html
No you cannot.

And console players dont want fat sweaty fucks hacking in their lobbies, so really pc is containment for incel faggots

not him but it really isn't that hard. every motherboard you get comes with a manual, the msi manuals have the entire motherboard and shows all the connectors and where everything needs to go in 1 page.

use pcpartpicker.com/ to budget your build and all you really need to do is not get a shitty cpu for bottlenecking and a decent gpu for what you need. if there are issues with the build, the website tells you why. its pretty easy.

imagine being so autismal you need to waste hundreds of dollars extra just to be able to get 60 fps at 1080p in 2016

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>4K

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There's nothing lewd involved, user.
If I remember correctly, those are just Voice Actors of some game.

>Sony is currently on a censorship spree for sexual content in their games.
But why is this only occurring this late? PS4 is on the market since 2013 why are they getting woke just now?

Not easy enough for some idiot, tho.

You guys dont get it.
While it's true that assembling a PC is baby-tier, knowing what pieces to buy to make them work together is not.
That's the primary reason as to why few people build a PC, for fear to buy the wrong pieces.

My entire PS4 library

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so what you're saying is ps+ only has any value if you never buy video games, even 11 year old video games

good to know

>what are preowned games

>Being this lazy

Yikes

>Playing a couple of exclusives sounds like a retarded reason.
>playing games sounds like a retarded reason
No, you are retarded. I can't imagine not playing Bloodborne, GoW or RDR2.
>waste of space
??? PC takes like 4 times space more.

Looks like my PC libary minus Bloodborne. I'm jelly user.

>presentation above else
>very light content
I played Uncharted 4, GoW4 and Horizon. They have a large amount of content and really good gameplay, actually, they are better than anything on PC released last years. None cost me more than 40$ too.

>Playing games.
Faggot!

Yeah, you don't have to worry if a game will run at 60fps on high. That choice is already made up for you and you play everything at 30fps on low.

>you play everything at 30fps
Wrong
>on low
Also wrong.

PC has no games. I don't want to beg for them. PC gaming is dead.

>he thinks his PS4 can run games at high settings
not anymore buddy.
That's why not only consoles are shit but modern vidya too. Only a few recent releases are actually worth playing, the whole point of PC is freedom to play whatever you want from whatever year and platform. That's the freedom you don't get on console and you're stuck playing shitty new games or soulless re-releases while begging for older games to be remastered, games that are readily available on PC.

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>>he thinks his PS4 can run games at high settings
I didn't say that (although some of them are). Your reading comprehension must be bad or you are just stupid.

What sort of content does Uncharted 4 have?

video game content

It does with your vr helmet on

I was under the impression uncharted 4 was just a highly scripted ~8 hour linear campaign + a decent but shallow multiplayer mode.
Did something change since the last three?

It has sports and weeb games that I enjoy. Does pc have MLB the show or Persona 5?

It's cheaper and people with irl friends want to play some 'pex with them
I think everyone should own every piece of relevant hardware (basically everything except the Xbone) but poorfags be poor

No, not if you'd like to stay a virgin

Long campaign for third-person action game plus good long multiplayer with lot of stuff to unlock.
>linear
You must be Ubisoft fanboy who wants every game to be open world meme.

I don't like heavily scripted games, I do like games that have consistent mechanics and rarely take control away from the player.

Uncharted has a consistent mechanic and lots of gameplay, don't know what are you talking about now.

>lets pretend that HL2 never happened

So consolecucks can stay cucked

Playing Uncharted on the PS3 gave me that taste. I would not point to Uncharted and say "this is a good third person shooter" or "this is a good platformer". Just a bland action game that gives you a taste of everything but drops you back into another scripted setpiece or cutscene before anything interesting might be done with those mechanics.

Which is why I'm asking. Is Uncharted 4 suddenly a much better game with much more content than the previous entries?

>but drops you back into another scripted setpiece or cutscene
So like every action game. Every game is scripted actually. Really dumb argument.

PS4 is $200-350

i think i'm playing more on my ps2 than i do on my recently upgraded high-ish-end pc. it's great to have specialized device for the sole purpose of playing vidya, i'm less distracted with messages and other internet shit, i can just chill out and play. i associate my computer chair with many things, some are good, some are bad, but my console sofa chair is being associated exclusively with fun and good feels

GRAN TURISMO SPORT

Win 10 has unplayable microstutter
Have to spend hours fucking with games to make them playable
Only 2 games on my ps4 have bad framrate
Tbh both suck
If i had to pick id game on a windoes 7 or 8 pc
And probably a 360

awful taste omg, its like a bargain bin

minus the kbm and monitor yeah
just get a barebones pc and get a used 970 or better
i got my pc minus the kbm for 200 bucks
1050 3gb
just hooked it to my tv
browsing from a recliner now

You're being asinine on purpose. There are many action games that empower the player by giving them a single set of rich mechanics that the player remains in control of over the entire game, rather than introducing entirely new shallow gameplay styles constantly.

yeah but at least I didn't have to dig through 9 config files, edit .ini files only for it to work AFTER I restart the PC

And no hackers. Glitchers yes, but not hackers.Not on the newest consoles.

what settings does Red Dead 2 run at on a 1070? for reference

see this is why I left PC gaming and haven't looked back, fags like you

>but if you dontwload this dodgy program and install it, and then go and find the right BIOS, AND THEN download the game file, maybe JUST MAYBE, a ps2 emulator can run at 99% speed but youlll never get that last 1% so after hours of effort you've got an objectively inferior version of something but hey, its emulated that's the gimmick so its better

you can for 600
barbones ryzen 5 and a used 980ti for 250 and another 60 bucks for 16 gigs of ram

how many ps2 games run on the ps4 dipshit?

>and you can still plug in a controller for things like side scrollers etc

youll never have motion controls, which are actually excellent in the new Gran Turismo

>more fps

hurr durr my book has more pages it must be better, just stop

>native 4k

for thr low low price of 1000+ dollars

>mods

this is a double edged sword though, some games I love to mod, other I wish would just fuckign work and I didn't have to mess with .ini and config file bullshit

>Can pirate everything

im sorry is this some kind of poor person joke im too rich to understand?

>or take advantage of key trading and crazy sales

do you unironically think only Steam has good sales/prices. sad.

>Can be used for other applications other than games, most people buy a computer as well as a console anyway

oh no i cant do excel spreadsheets on my GAMING console, boo hoo

>Don't have to pay for online twice

pc games in general run worse online and have more cheaters, im happy to pay for a service that DOES deliver

>>Once you have your first build, you can just sell and swap out your graphics card every 5-8 years and still get better performance than consoles

again are you really poor or something? dont get this one

>if you have a job building a computer isn't a problem

yeah but building computers is generally what people with no jobs do

>please give me reasons to buy a console
>no those don't count

Can't play Bloodborne on PC buddy, literally there's your reason.
I know you technically can play it on PC via streaming, but >playing via streaming, and the DLC is not included.

bloodborne is good but it isn't $300 good

Because of physical copies and no annoying troubleshooting to play a game.

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>s2 emulator can run at 99% speed but youlll never get that last 1%
what

Nice set up user.

Honestly, as someone who was pc elitest and then picked up a used PS4

It's a different experience playing games on your couch on a console and not worrying about tweaking settings etc

It's good.
The exclusives are good (for PS4 at least) unless you're a twat that only things Bloodborne is worth playing

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the exclusives suck though
I only play multiplats on my ps4. If I were an idort I'd hate it.

i always wanted to have a cool collection like this as a kid, but when i got into emulation on pc and realizing disc rot is going to fuck over your collection regardless of how well maintained it is, it's pointless.