Just bought this, what am I in for?

It's just a bunch of weird little awful issues like enemy behavior and so on. It's recognizable as Devil May Cry, it's just a very shitty version of it. It's not nearly as fun as the original or 3.

Very flimsy combat and terrible enemy and level design. Decent music and ok art direction. Itsuno had only a few months to ship out a product.

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The game had a different director from DMC1 that did fuck all and had to be replaced 6months before ship date
They had a single attack for Dante coded in that time. Stinger, and not just any stinger, the absolute worst stinger in the series where its barely a stumble forward.
Theres barely any cohesion to your missions beyond walking forward(not literally, most levels are actually fucking huge but empty of anything meaningful)
Most of the bosses are boring at best and trash at worst(fucking infested tanks/helicopter) the best strategy is to just hold down the shoot button and unload on enemies from afar(only game in series where you can hold to continuously fire)
Dante lacks a personality for all purposes not that it matters since theres only like 5 cutscenes with anything said in them

It added some neat things that Itsuno(Dev who took over with 6 months left) heavily refined in 3, like the proto trickster found in 2 and actually having aerial attacks outside of DT
The modular DT was also quite an interesting concept

Capcom had no qualms porting Mega Man X7. They'll include anything they feel like.

Mismatched art and sound samples in various spots in all three games. The HD collection is shit, just emulate them instead.

this is pure grade autism friend kill your parents then yourself asap.

DMC1 & 2 fucking suck, don't listen to the memes about 1. It's clunky dogshit. 3 is one of the best games ever made.

eat shit retard

Does his truth disturb you?

DMC1 isn't clunky. It plays very solid.

i noticed some lags in the first game in areas with fog too, shitty port, but playable.

>DMC1
>dogshit
Abysmal taste.

Just warning the user that this is a lazy HD collection. Some are interesting like Shadow of the Colossus's remake, this one is not and has some broken segments especially in the first game, music not playing where it should, fog rendering issues.

kill your fucking self

No more than 60 hertz.

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Some things don't work like they do on the ps2. I think kalina ann doesn't grapple enemies, but it will poke them.

DMC1 in the HD collection looks just awful, like nothing is rendering properly. The textures also look like they ran a super eagle filter over them.

Are you genuinely retarded? Seriously wondering. Came into this thread and saw an user explaining why the HD collection is shit quality and you're saying he's an autist and should kill himself? What are you even doing here? Go the fuck back to where you came from nigger.

Bad ports but as far as the games go, fun hack and slash. Just dont take the story seriously.

definition of a barebones port

1 is fine, and if you really want to just blow through it abuse the grenade launcher and Nightmare B

OP Here. Am I being trolled about the quality of the DMC1 port? I mostly bought for 3, since I never played the SE edition. But I do want to play 1 again at some point.

It plays fine.

All three games have minor video/audio issues in the HD collection, 1 suffering the most from it. Theyre still fully playable otherwise.

from my understanding all the ports are kind of bad in terms of fucked up textures, sounds and effects.

Can I play 3, watch the lore, then do 4 and 5 and be alright with what's going on?

The original director they had on the project was basically retarded and after a year of dev time they had absolutely nothing done except a bunch of unrelated art assets and the only thing that actually worked was a single attack. This director was booted off the project and his name has never been revealed. They put Hideaki Itsuno in charge of the project, a man who had only done fighting games and like a single racing game before that point, and gave him 5 months to produce something they could ship. As expected, the game was fucking awful. Genuinely one of very few AAA games I’d consider truly bad and not just aggressively mediocre or amateur. The gameplay is shallow and incredibly unsatisfying, it comes across as supremely rushed, it’s retardedly easy and it also destroyed anything good Dante had going for him as a character from 1. Literally nothing about the game was even mediocre, just bad. Except maybe the music and art direction, those were pretty good but everything else was like 3/10. Itsuno was obviously displeased with this as was his entire team, so they requested they get to work on DMC3 from scratch so that they wouldn’t be remembered as the guys who made DMC2. Capcom allowed them to and they made DMC3, one of the most highly regarded action games of all time, which only made 2 look even worse in hindsight.

2 Introduced air combat and Bloody Palace at least.

Two good games

Oh yeah it introduced a bunch of ideas that were refined in later games which you’ve gotta give it credit for, but fuck me 3 onwards do everything 2 did but a million times better.

Besides the bad game design in general where in the first game every enemy has a multiple paragraph long bio they only get a few short sentences in 2.

Dmc1 is the bezt

Two games and a shitty pre-alpha

based

A mediocre series that is eclipsed by the action games that came afterwords but is still sucked off into oblivion because MUH CUHRAAAAZY PIZZA FLOCK OFF XDDD

dmc3 is the best action game
dmc1 is the best resident evil game
dmc 2 is well dmc2

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low tier bait. heres a (you) for effort

Then why does my version run at fucking 800fps so that I have to lock it with Rivatuner?

>the action games that came afterwords
Like what? Genuinely curious.

2 great games.

Because there are issues at higher refresh rates.

Yes, and you can skip second game entierly. Watch the first game lore and you're good to go

the only 2 games in the entire series worth playing

1 > 3

Don’t fucking @ me

>aged mediocrity
>a pile of hot shit
>a dated but alright game
hopefully you didn't pay full price

1. an aged game
2. a skip-able game
3. a marvel to remember

If you tell people to play 3 before 1 you can go fuck yourself

Not him but
Ninja gaidan
Bayonetta
Asuras wrath
God hand

I'm playing it right now. Haven't got my hands on dmc3 yet but I can tell I'm not impressed by the first two. I guess for 2001 the first one was a hit but now almost two decades later it's not that fun.

Play 3->1->2

>duhhhhh it’s a prequel so play it first
Fuck off retard

>Asuras wrath
>

Also not him but also
No more heroes
Dark souls
God of War
(some of the)Dynasty Warriors
Darksiders

why can you skip 2 but not 1? the stories are largely self-contained and not worth caring about to begin with

Play 3, ignore 2 since it's actually legit horrible, ignore 1 since it's the contrarian choice for "I'm-so-different-I-like-DMC1-not-3-or-5" people and is a dated mediocrity

Audio works fine on my copy.

>Entire game is designed as if people weren't meant to play it
Yea.. just abunch of small issues...

1 is a good game
2 is not
That’s why

And even on a basic level, 3 leans entirely on your understanding of what happens to Dante and especially Vergil after its events. You won’t get what the hell Vergil’s talking about at the end of 3 if you haven’t played 1.

B A S E D, 1fags eternally BTFO

My point is that it's not as if the game is something completely unrecognizable as Devil May Cry. There isn't some big easily summarized problem like "the game is only 25% finished" or something like that. It's just a shitty game with a lot of individual problems that add up.

Telling someone not to play a good game is the contrarian advice.

True. Thank god it's not a good game.

Yeah, the contrarian here is definitely you.

How's that shmup level treating ya?
Having fun in the water one?

Nobody said the game is perfect. DMC1 has problems. DMC3 has problems. DMC4 has problems. DMC5 has problems. DMC1 is definitely a good game and worth playing though, even if you think DMC3-5 are better.

I wouldn't say any of these eclipsed it but just live along side each other. Also you can't honestly be serious listing Asura's Wrath, DW, NMH, and Darksiders. They're fun but don't even have GoW's depth.

>How's that shmup level treating ya?
It's whatevs
>Having fun in the water one?
This section is microscopic. Everyone acts like it's the length of Bayo's missile segment.

DMC1 is like, a game that's "good for the time"
A lot of meme lads pretend that it's great but havn't actually even played it, it and 4 share a lot in common and if you absolutely love 3 and 4, then you'll probably like 1 but wish some of the newer QOL was in in there.

DMC2 is absolute dogshit, it's rushed, its tedious, dante is boring and sad, the enemies are uninspired and don't really add anything to the series. It just feels completely phoned in, and it's kinda sad because the music and art teams really show some passion.

DMC3 is a really fun and great game, and the port is 100% one of the worst ports ever to have the misfortune of being put to PC. Shit like, theres no volume options. A few mods go a long way to making this one actually playable and enjoyable, but get ready for BLARRING jarringly loud music and extremely low voice, with no inbetween.

>literally just a fine pacebreaker and generally easy space harrier section to hype up the end of the game which lasts two minutes
>and a water level that lasts 30 seconds
wow... so this is the power of the 3fag...

Hey how’re those chess piece enemies working out? What about your horribly made DMD?

ill finish this comic one day user sorry i had to make too much OC

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It was a good game on release, it's no longer the case in 2019 and playing it for the 1st time is meaningless when its sequels do everything it does but better. Enemy design is dated, combat is dated, bosses are dated, characters are dated. All of it has been done better by game's sequels. The only saving grace is music, which you can just listen separately on YT anyways.

The water level can be sped through in practically minutes and is barely a problem. Enemies die from the needle gun in a few hits.
The shmup is fine and ends as fast as it arrives.
They're such small parts of the game, I'm not sure how you can say all of DMC1 is bad because of some extremely minor levels.

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but shadows are the best enemy in the series, user

not that guy, and I haven't played 3 DMD, but what's wrong with it?

What is wrong with you fucking zoomers
I played the game for the first time a year ago and it was great
It’s the only one I’ve bothered with DMD on because it’s actually well-balanced and the all the bosses and enemies present unique challenges

What on fucking earth is so “aged” about DMC1 other than the occasionally bad camera? And don’t even talk about mechanical depth, it’s still got better combat than most action games.

>why play the game when you can watch/listen it
Where the fuck do you faggots even come from?

I'm really glad you bandwagoners just seem to shit up every fucking thread. I thought you cunts would leave by now.

>Enemy design is dated
That's one of the few things that isn't dated though.
Also the music hasn't been topped. FACT.
Shitposting aside, there's something nice about the simple combos and the flow of battle. I play the smartest and most carefully in DMC1 than in any of the other games even on their highest difficulties.
I think it's worth a try any year.

>when its sequels do everything it does but better.
They really don't, though. It has somewhat different priorities and ideas that make it distinct from the games after it. I don't necessarily like it more than DMC3 (though I do like its DMD mode more), but I appreciate its differences. There are all kinds of reasons to like DMC3-5 more than DMC1, but acting like DMC1 is some utterly obsolete relic just makes me wonder if you've actually fucking played it.

Funny how all these games ripped off DMC.
If DMC was bad, none of these would even been made, retard.

>be 10 years old
>buy code veronica for ps2
>comes with a demo for a game I never heard of
>Devil May Cry? Guess I'll try it out
>Whoa Dante looks cool as shit, this white hair is rad!
>this gameplay as fun as hell
>Knock a guy in the air and shoot them
>he floats in the air while i shoot him
>holy fuck this is rad!
>ask for the game for my birthday
>get it
>super excited to play
>think dante is super cool
>smack talks enemies and then fucks them up
>never experienced a protag like that
>gets stabbed in the chest and doesn't fucking care
>love the whole game
>lovr the combat
>love nelo angelo showdowns
>absolutely love it

Man. I should go back and play through DMC 1 again

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Ok well, theres 10 enemies in the entire game, 5 bosses.
The game is about 2 hours long, with such amazing missions as "jump across bridge" and " walk to the left into door."
with such amazing boss strategies as "use vortex" and "use vortex lv2" or my favorite "farm for vortex"

It's not all bad though, we have plenty of weapons like "Sword" "Sword" and "red sword" to pick from!

I'm sorry dude, the game is basic as it comes, it plays more like a demo for a game then an actual game, and it's honestly pretty surprising that it got a second installment, and JESUS CHRIST its surprising after the flop that was 2 that it got a third game.

I tried playing DMC 1 recently in anticipation for DMC5 and see if I could get into the series. I made it to Mission 11. I kinda just dropped it though. Honestly..it's not for me. I think it's because it has a really horror-ish RE vibe to it and I just don't enjoy horror games at all, they make me feel depressed and anxious. I feel really bad/zoomer for giving up on it, I really wanted to like it. Should I move on to DMC3 and 4 and see if I can get into the series? How different are they from 1?

I see you haven't played DMC1 at all. I'm glad you keep shitting on this game like it did you a personal disservice. I thought you would take the hint after multiple unique posters telling you that you're a faggot that you would understand to fuck off. Instead you further act like a faggot.
It needs to be a requirement to play these games before you can post about them.

Just play some games and stop asking for approval.

>resort to full baby tantrum because you have literally nothing to say.

youtube.com/watch?v=lcvw1E0Mcac

>Just play some games and stop asking for approval.
Jeez, no need to be so rude. Fine then.

The horror tone is turned down in the future games, if that's what's turning you off.

Idk, they might still scare you, but i love them all, quite a bit

Disliking DMC1 is omeaga zoomer.
>ew, this is old
>why can't I do fancy combos for free?
>where's the meme music? BANG BANG, haha

>Should I move on to DMC3 and 4 and see if I can get into the series? How different are they from 1?
Different enough to be worth trying. The level design tends to be a more streamlined, guns aren't emphasized quite as much, and combos and melee weapons are expanded upon a great deal. DMC1 has a snappy pace to it; DMC3, DMC4, and DMC5 aren't slow games by any means (though some bosses and enemy encounters can feel kind of sluggish on higher difficulties) but they're all about giving you room to experiment with combat options. DMC1 is a lot more broad in its focus.

The horror vibes are almost completely gone in DMC4 and DMC5. DMC3 has a gloomy setting but the characters are so goofy that the game has a consistent levity.

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I think you have to either disable or enable vsync or the game stutters like a retard.

youtube.com/watch?v=SdIz8h20w6A

As a newcomer to the series. Would it be worth playing through 2 just for the story?? Or should I just YouTube it?

It created the "boss is a helicopter" meme.

Is DMC1 the same shit as bayonetta where you have to destroy your fingers mashing buttons to do stuff? I don't mind it sparingly but bayo just about killed my hands trying to get the bonus points and I always just missed out as well which was annoying as fuck

Story is non-existent in 1 in 2. It's literally 5 cutscenes and couple of lines.

it is pretty much mindless button mashing which is why I bought the collection in the OP, got to mission 18 (there are 20, I didn't even care to finish) in the first game, was bored as all fuck, dicked around in the other two for a little while then deleted it. it's snoozeville.

t. soulsfag

No, there's no QTEs at all

>t. soulsfag
It really explains your shit taste.

You what
To this day I can remember every dmc1 enemy and boss, they were the coolest in the series
Shooting was actually fun
The level design was actually fun

>soulsfag
Why is this always the case? Why is it always soulsfags that don't like games that have more than a simple heavy and light attack?
And DMC and games alike, Are fast paced games they will obviously require you to constantly fight as fast as you can, so constant action is a given

Just YouTube 1 and 2's story then? Not worth playing through?

Not really, DMC has simple controls
You have a melle attack with some moves requiring directional input and a ranged attack, and that's as far as you can go with it's combat

As a kid I didn't even realize there were combos until the end of the game

I understand your bad opinions now. People who play Dark Souls don't even like action games. It's just a glorified JRPG with bad combat with a shitty underage fanbase.

I bought it last week and couldn't stop playing.

DMC1 is awesome 9/10
DMC2 is boring 5/10
DMC3 is the best of the three but too unforgiving sometimes 9.5/10

There isn't a single story in DMC that's worth experiencing for its own sake. You should play DMC1 because it's a fun game with cool ideas. The same is true for every other DMC game.

Play 1 and see if you like it, skip 2 because it's a grind (I personally had fun with it as a kid)

should I play the ps2 release of dmc1 or the hd version? I never played dmc1 but I read that it's ps2 north american release has some differences in controls and difficulty compared to the japanese release which the hd port is based on. triangle for jump and circle for melee. apparantly, the player even does less damage and enemies hit harder on the ps2 release. with that considered, is playing the ps2 ntsc version artificial difficulty with it's weird control scheme and difference in damage algorithm?

Based. Series really beings at 3.

>dicked around with 3 and deleted it
what a tard

Don't listen to that retard.

Devil May Cry might not have a deep story, but 1 and 3 have great stories but had the Resident Evil atmosphere (because it was RE4 at one point) so it focuses on gameplay more than cutscenes actions like the other games.

DMC1 and 3 are masterpieces.

anyone that claims you can skip 1 is a shitter and has awful taste

What a fanboy.

>having different and better opinions is fanboyism
retard

dmc is not more than that, it's just an illusion. dark souls is more complex than dmc but it cuts out the bullshit, I actually wish dark souls was more complex but implying that dmc is somehow this high IQ thinker compared to souls is retarded, it would be the opposite if that was even remotely true for either game

t. also dorf fortress fag, which I feel the need to state not because it makes me some 3lite gaymer but because it is obviously more involved than any of these games so don't bother calling me a facebook mom or whatever

>1 has a great story
The only retard here is you. Just imagine calling this low level weeb shit story great.

>weeb
Underage faggots opinions like your are automatically discarded.

lmao you fucking retard

it's acceptable but flawed

Surely a giant anime addicted babybearded weeb. Go check your toy katana or your mother will throw it in a garbage, weeb faggot.

>nooo a story i don't like is a weeb material
>a story about a devil hunter killing other demons to save the world is terrible!!
>gonna claim that as a weeb story in a weeb website
Go to bed, underage faggot.

Well then if that's the case the metroidvania genre shouldn't exist because the original metroid game on nes doesn't hold up very well objectively. It's almost like it's a basis to make better games off it. it doesn't matter if it ripped it off or not. It matters if they are better games. and while I don't agree with DW, Asura's wrath and Darksiders as being overall better than dmc. Dark souls, NMH, Bayonetta and Ninja gaiden are better series with more consistent standard of quality. and are you saying DMC didn't have inspiration behind it. fuck off

DMC still have better characters and more fun than all of these rip-offs.

Man, I really want to replay DMC1 now.

Go for it. I played through it again just before 5 came out. It's still terrific. Somehow the water sections were even worse than I remembered, though. The controls are fucking inverted.

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Honestly, DMC1 was one of those rare times where I felt that the game was a legitimate 10 the entire time as I was playing it, and even after. Really cool game.

>Dark Souls
>consistent quality
Bandwagoning or just retarded?

Nigger where did I imply that DMC is high IQ thinking man's game? I just asked why do some Soulsfags dislike action games, Dark Souls being better or worse than DMC has nothing to do with my arguement cause it all just ends up with what is your taste in games, and how the fuck is there an illusion of complexity in DMC?

DMC games pretty clearly require more skill/dexterity/focus than souls games. But at the same time, they are dogshit at what makes souls great - world building and level design.

Aren't the controls normal if you use the dpad or does that only work on Mundus?

I beat them all on the 360 and it played fine. 1 was my favourite in fact.

One good game (DMC1)

Come on, now. I'm a huge DMC1fag, but you can't imply 3 isn't good at all.

>world building and level design
>levels are made to slow your progress and keeps you getting killed for the lols
>good

Dark Souls are just a meme for children to brag about playing hard games.
Only masochists would enjoy DS games.
>no story
>no lore
>combat is just roll aside and hit then repeat for 30 minutes
>haha i'm so hardcore at playing this XD

There were many hard games before but DS got its reputation thanks to Reddit and 9fag memes.

But enemies do lotsa damage to me when they (rarely) hit, Dark Souls must be a hard game!!!

Not OP, but I bought the DMC Collection that includes the HD Collection and 4 Special Edition on PC. Am I better off playing with KB+M or should I get a gamepad? I mean, can it even be played well on a keyboard?

3 is the only game in the series (maybe 2 in a small way) to match that criticism. Demon's Souls, 1, and Bloodborne aren't even hard. They're pretty zen.

>why play the game when you can watch/listen it
Yea Forums - Video Games

it's good but so overrated I like to pretend it's not

Why would you even attempt playing it on a keyboard?

>3 is the only game in the series (maybe 2 in a small way) to match that criticism
Factually incorrect. Play the games.

zoomers and fortnite fags watch games on twitch/yt more than they actually play them.

My dumb nephews are like this too.

I played Dark Souls on a keyboard. I also had played DMC 4 way back when it came out on keyboard too, but it's been a while so I can't remember what the controls were like.

DMC2 is the failure the series needed for 3 to come save it. Who knows what the series would look like had 2 been great or even good.

I don't think they're over rated, just over referenced. It's the casual's idea of a hardcore game.
I've played them all so many times I lost count, except 3. I played 3 once, and tried to play it again but it's just frustrating and shitty. 2 fell for the "Dark Souls is hard" meme too, but at least it still had some good points. 3 is an ugly slog.

i hope the Switch port fixes all the problems it has

If you don't play 2 you're an absolute coward.

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DMC2 WAS GOING TO BE DA KEEEEEEEEEEEENG OF DEEZ WUHLD

Dropped it as a kid, dropped it as an adult. At least in God of War you had to mash square rather than holding it down the whole game. I wouldn't doubt that it's possible to beat DMC2 in 1.5 square presses.

A square press is a square press. You can't say it's only half.

A terrible remaster of good games.

Actually, DS2 and DS3 had pressure sensitive face buttons.

It's not impossible to play decently with keyboard but most if not all high level DMC players all use a gamepad. I played it with keyboard because of being a poorfag but stuff like charging multiple weapons and style switching fast is locked off from me because I dont have RTS like keyboard skills.

unless you have a lot of experience playing specifically console games with kb+m, you should get yourself a gamepad. 360 pads should be reasonably cheap these days if you don't want to shell out for an xbone/ds4.

I mean, 1 was basically RE4 idea number 1.

Fun
Frustration
Fun
Too many enemies fly

You know.... I wonder if 3 would have been such a masterpiece if 2 hadn't been a blunder. Maybe the failure that is 2 was necessary for us to receive 3.