Any one of you lads got the Yea Forums guide to this game? Was considering giving it another run before I remembered that the mechanics are more complex than quantum physics.
Any one of you lads got the Yea Forums guide to this game...
Samuel Torres
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Dominic Fisher
I've had this game on steam forever but haven't touched it. What's so hard about it?
Oliver Young
Is this game any good? I keep hearing that the gameplay is a total mindfuck.
James Fisher
Off the top of my head
>stat progression is obscure and not revealed to you at all
>the progression system is incredibly arcane and not at all intuitive
>if you grind, the game gets harder, but if you don't do any sidequests, you'll always be scraping by
>The game explains very little of any of this to you
The guide goes into more detail, but in a nutshell this is is an RPG for masochist freaks.
Aaron Carter
Basically, the enemies scale to the same level you are, but you get characters at different times through the game. And if you get too high a level without enough (good)characters leveled with you from an early level shit just becomes impossible. Oh and bosses have some RNG which may just wipe you depending when it happens, and you can only really suggest what to do to your troops, though they mostly do what you want if you have them built right. Sometimes you have to cycle through enemies to get what you want etc. Oh and you have to pay attention in battle too to chain attacks which is a timing system. If you don't chain attacks it makes things a lot harder. There is more let me know if you want me to go on
Matthew Adams
Just dont be retarded
Jackson Ross
Nothing in this game will be impossible from grinding so don’t feel discouraged because you “messed up” once. Just get the materials your teammates need to upgrade stuff and train your skills. If you’re on pc feel free to mob everything up together. If you’re on Xbox don’t. Pc keeps battle level low with big groups. Xbox makes battle level FLY up with big groups.
Christian Ortiz
Keep going, this thread clearly will not be bumped anytime soon.
Jason Scott
Yeah you might as well spill all the beans, that infographic probably isn't showing up anytime soon.
Julian Lee
You are a fucking liar, the mechanics are dumb as shit. They're just contextual and at any point you don't need to do anything but spam magic attacks, or physical attacks, or heal.
Thomas Sanchez
>Oh and bosses have some RNG which may just wipe you depending when it happens
there are maybe like 3 bosses at most that do than and all are optional.
Hunter Adams
i got you senpai
Colton Rogers
>more complex than quantum physics
just dont grind cause the game is designed to fuck grinders in the ass, as one should
Joshua Bell
I'll add another gem.
The game has quests that become available and then unavailable over the course of the story. There's usually no warning for when these quest dropoffs happen.
One late game optional area with many of the best grinding and component locations is gated behind a quest that requires you to fight a fairly challenging optional boss. Said quest becomes unavailable with no warning after a point around 4/5 through the game. You must defeat the boss before then or the area becomes permanently inaccessible.
Levi White
Oh yeah? This fucker is optional?
Farming materials is RNG, and you only get so many chances to per map. So if you dont get enough from this spot deep in some random fucking place you have to run back out (while avoiding mobs this whole time so you dont level up more then you have to) and go back. To get your troops level up the way you want them too depends on the skills they use during battle and which weapons they are using. Of course the game doesn't tell you like any of this so you have to look up how to have people be which class you actually want them to be. Some side quests disappear after certain events in the story(which again you dont get told this) a lot of the best characters are from side quests too. Limit breaks are pretty random
Samuel Hughes
so just avoid enemies until you get to the boss, if the boss kicks your ass then grind until you can beat the boss. did i just crack the game?
Ethan Ross
The "don't fight too much or you're fucked" is a meme from early xbox version. No such thing on PC.
Game is great, but you need to endure the early lack of unions/units.
You can probably beat this fucker just by healing the equally optional tank you're given during the fight and throwing range attacks.
Grayson Rodriguez
>try to heal cyclops, only a few people want to
>he gets gang banged by the hypnos
>boss brings cyclops back to life
Carson Phillips
Nope, not at all, because grinding in this game means bosses scale with your level as well, and they also unlock new skills.
Kevin Foster
Why no HD version on PC?
Charles Collins
At the basic level: enemies scale off the number of battles you fight, but your characters' skills only grow based on using them in battle. So you want to chain together a load of enemies, lock whatever skills you don't want to level, then go wild on them.
Gavin Scott
because the HD port is basically just a port of the PC version
Cameron Sanchez
Just dont grind for hours, which you shouldnt do anyway because who does boring shit like grinding. Doing all the main quests and side quests is fine and wont mess up the scaling.
Jaxon Brown
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Is there a more kino track in this game?
Logan Howard
>who does boring shit like grinding
I just want Peerless/Swift attacks
and the SS rank attacks...
and Grenade Impact...
and Cachexia...
Dylan Gray
Josiah Garcia
Why does everyone pretend like the PC version didn't fix all this?
Joshua Bailey
Owen Carter
it's still present in the PC version, just less egregious and much more manageable since you have access to a much wider array of great units.
Colton Stewart
I had a lot of fun with this game. Really complex but that's part of the charm. I want to fuck those little guys with floppy ears.
Camden Sanders
Well I'm downloading this now. Guess I'll play it with the wikipedia open so I don't miss any quests.
Adrian Gutierrez
play it blind for your first playthrough, use the wiki for the second. Part of the experience is realizing how much you missed.
Eli Allen
Have fun. Might replay it too and try to beat all sidequests this time. I pussied out last time since beating all sidequests makes the final boss harder.
Dominic Parker
it actually makes him easier, in my experience. He loses several big attacks based on certain quest completions.
Joseph Roberts
Not even need a guide. Bartenders at taverns will tell you hints if there are any quests available. Otherwise they tell you "nothing interesting seems to be happening right now" or something. Just remember to visit once in a while (especially between important plot advances).
William Bell
oh that's great to know. thank you
Gabriel Lee
Really? Shit. Looking forward to kicking his ass then.
Alexander Stewart
how fucked is the 360 vesion
Angel Peterson
fucked
Levi Rivera
very fucked
Zachary Bell
>enemies scale to the same level you are
I regretted not buying this game before it got removed from Steam but not anymore, fuck rpg with level scaling.
Henry Watson
This isn't your typical level scaling bullshit. It's advance bullshit. I'd recommend playing it anyway.
Mason Carter
>enemies scale to the same level you are
That's actually wrong.
Enemies scale to your Battle Rank which increases the more you fight. But you only get experience and skills for character that survives the battle.
Joshua Bell
Tip: pay attention to the radar/minimap when deciding what your unions are going to do. If you tell somebody to attack when there are three other groups in the way, of course they are going to get intercepted.
Also, make sure your unions are specializing in something. Stick all the magic dudes together, and turn off anything you don't want them using.