DMC5 is dumbed down

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>no more inertia or rg cancel
>dante's teleport and sword swings are slower
For what purpose Capcom?

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Name 5 game series that HAVEN'T been dumbed down.

Fallacy: Other things are bad so it's ok for this to be bad.

stop talking about those mechanics, you suck anyway

>muh inertia
lmao imagine still crying like an autist about this

>admits the game is dumbed down
Mission accomplished.

>dante's teleport and sword swings are slower
are you comparing it to turbo mode? because they feel the same as 4 on normal.

>glitch that doesn't give any functional advantages is a feature

post your guardflying vid

The game does need turbo mode. Was a great feature in 3SE and 4.

Why does this looks like it's in slow mo compared to previous games

Why do you care? You can't play like that anyways.

How many people who beg for inertia can actually do the shit it's used for in 4 instead of watching people on youtube do it

>literally the most mechanically complex action game ever
>"dumbed down"

PC mod for it already exists, meaning it was probably an issue with consoles.

Because it's not in Turbo Mode, which is what most people play past DMC games on.

Literally none of them.

>functional advantage
>having less options is bad
>I want less combo routes and slower gameplay
Not what Devil May Cry is about. It's all about doing cool shit and combos, otherwise you would just be using regular attacks the whole game. No one plays DMC to "be functional". It's to be as over the top as possible.

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DMC4's animations are inherently faster. The characters have more versatile combo options, even some of Donguri's fans are pointing this out only to be replied with "Capcom will add turbo mode soon." Which I hope happens because the game feels so slow right now.

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Ntr has the hottest sluts

>Ntr

Cuck shitposter

>Which I hope happens because the game feels so slow right now.
PC mod for Turbo already exists. Also has character switcher. Meaning it was likely a console specific issue.

>op is a dongurifag
i am so glad they removed intertia, it makes the """"combo"""autists seethe because their favorite game bug got removed. get fucked niggers

whatever

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If I could or couldn't, it wouldn't matter. Less options and dumbing down are bad. Enjoy your less hype combo videos and decreased versatility. Just like what they did with the Street Fighter series. Your usage of fallacies is just a way of cope.

People who play on Turbo are generally just bad at the game and prefer the more frantic timing to make up for it.

>ntr

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>Weeb poster
>ntr cuck
>Is a faggot
Yep everything checks out.

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>LESS OPTIONS

LOOK AT DANTE IN DMC5.

LOOK AT HIM.

HE HAS MORE THAN HE'S EVER HAD.

What? Its harder

>Less options and dumbing down are bad.
The game gives you more movesets than DMC4 to work with, and gives you more mechanics to play around with. On top of this, it vastly expands Dante's moveset. The game missing a glitch that made you have to tekken claw to do cool shit doesn't inherently mean it's dumbed down, you dumb cuck shitlord, go eat a dick and die, you pretentious faggot.

it’s DmC2

>giving up on actually talking about the game and resorting to just weak insults
LOL I made you give up so easily.

I sincerely hope the PC community can do something about this. Even though Capcom keeps dumbing down their games, people aren't allowed to criticize. This place has become reddit, but even worse because they claim to hate reddit.

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no don't call him an ntr cuck he will call it an ad hominem noooo

It literally has more otpions than any DMC game before it.

>literally just an anime face I saved from a Yea Forums thread
>can't defend the game anymore so just gives up
Weak. Dante wouldn't be proud of quitters.

>fucking god of DMC combos Donguri is clearly loving it
>retard OP whines about inertia
weeeeeeeeeeew

>less options and dumbing down
From a quantity stand point, 5 has 4 (5 if you count Dante and Rebellion/Sparda as different weapons) melee, 4 ranged, 4 styles, summoned swords adds and 2 DTs. 4 has 3 melee, 3 range, 5 styles and 1 DT

>hottest sluts
>insult
You got a screw loose there bud?

Sauce

who cares you fucking nerds lmfao, when was the last time you played this and got stuck on a boss and were like "HHHM IF IONLY I COULD IENRTYIA DOUBLE SUPER CANCEL I'D CLEAR THIS PART..."

fucking posers

>no inertia
>no rg cancel
>slower attacks
STREET FIGHTER 5 HAS BIGGER MOVELISTS AND MORE CHARACTERS THAN STREET FIGHTER 3 OH MY GOD MORE MEANS BETTER!

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>defend the greatest action game ever
Why? No competition whatsoever

>This place has become reddit, but even worse because they claim to hate reddit.
And you're the top candidate for being Reddit, because you call the game dumbed down because it's missing a single glitch. The PC community will do something about it, potentially, but you're just a faggot obsessed with a single glitch from a past game. It's not dumbed down, Dante has more to work with in his base moveset than he ever has at one time. One single glitch not existing does not mean it's dumbed down.

Didnt this COMBO MAD guy say hes fucking done with DMC and will never get DMC5 because capcom took too long?

>bitch about how Dante has less
>point out he objectively factually has more than he's ever had
>move the goalposts to still complain

Because Devil May Cry isn't about normal functionality. No one plays DMC games just to press attack button over and over. People play DMC to do flashy combos, you just exposed yourself as the real poser.

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the game never organically demands that from you fucking loser. you're doing the equivalent of flashy combos in fighting games in training mode, never actually competing against other players.
what a waste of fucking life. really showed those shitty dmc equivalent of goombas what's what, tho!

Must be a meleefag

Tell me user, do you consistently get D ranks whenever you play? Because if so, I think DMC 2 is more your speed

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>This place has become reddit, but even worse
>frogposter
lol

They do it to piss you off. It's working pretty well. They would've kept making DmC games if it wasn't such a financial failure.

Dante literally has the most complex moveset he's ever had and the weapons are actually functional. You can bitch about inertia all you want but it never had any real use ingame, DMC4 for all the tech was held back by Rebellion being the only useful weapon (yes there's DRI but that's horribly clunky and the one useful move that weapon has).

The fanbase for DMC is fucking awful but they're packed too full of soi to realize it. They train for hours perfecting moves on npcs and that's all they'll ever be.

The movement options and tricks Dante can do in DMC4 outnumber the things he can actually do in DMC5. I mean, you're welcome to prove me wrong anytime. Donguri and even some on Japanese twitter people are admitting the game has less combos. You're gonna keep defending Capcom's lower quality games and encouraging them to produce shit. Don't complain about newer games being bad when you encouraged it.

inertia isn't there cuz they thought it would look too weird with the more realistic graphics. yeah its a loss and it would be better if it was in, but for 99.99% of players it means nothing and even for that .001% it was only a small fraction of what they enjoyed about advanced play. still a loss tho. also people have already found some new versions of inertia altho nothing will be as cool as guard flying

RG cancels are still in

nothing is slower, its actually slightly faster, there's just no turbo mode which again is another loss. hopefully it wasn't taken out for the same reasons as inertia and will be added later somehow. nero and V feel perfect without turbo tho, devil knuckle would be fucking asinine with it. it is an unfortunately loss for dante tho.

how will the mod community implement inertia on the RE engine? that's a fucking tedious task and i bet no one on the community will waste their time (and do it for FREE) tweaking the engine just to cater to a small group of people. the devs don't even know the existence of inertia.

I mean, what sort of a rebuttal is that anyway? That's kind of his point, the game's piss easy to actually clear, all you can do is flex about the score it assigns you at the end (which isn't even a relevant talking point as of DMC5, the game which grades you from A to S).

>DANTE IS DUMBED DOWN!

>Melee: Rebellion, DS Sparda, DS Dante, King Cerberus, Balrog
>Ranged: E&B, Coyote-A, Kalina Ann, Double Kalina Ann, Faust Hat
>Devil Trigger and Sin Devil Trigger
>Trickster, Swordmaster, Royal Guard, Gunslinger permutations of all the above

BTW retards they didnt "take out" or "fix" your dumb fucking glitch exploits, the old game(s) were on MT Framework, DMC5 is on RE Engine, they had to rebuild the entire combat system on a new engine so the dumb fucking bug they never fixed in the old games simply didnt exist in the RE Engine game.

so basically it's a fighting game for people with anxiety who don't wanna play against other people lmfao
lmao kys

dante may have less "tricks" but he also has more weapons. nero is objectively more complex than before. also there is an entire other character. i dont see the big deal with DMC4 giving a better combo autist experience than DMC5 while DMC5 offers SO much more than anything else in so many other areas. DMC3 has the best story and the most "complete" experience, DMC4 is the best comboautism, and DMC5 is the best overall game with the most streamlined level design, best hidden secrets, and best enemy design. a beautiful trilogy

Smartest nigga in this thread.

>it never had any real use
You never had to launch a enemy ever and shoot it. Literally every attack in the whole series is optional except your regular sword swings (except in very rare cases) Almost everything in a DMC game don't have a real use, your default weapon is all you needed. Having slower attacks, no inertia and no rg cancel = objectively a downgrade.

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b-but muh intertia and guard flying
b-but muh kewl Dante
b-but muh combo mad videos

>DMC5 is dumbed down
the video you posted doesn't help your case

But there is an RG cancel and the game is FASTER, you idiot.

Very sexy slut. Cuter this way than as a cuck queen

4 and 5 are shit
3SE with style switching mod is still king
I just wished Itsuno stopped at 3 and moved on to his DD, a game he passionately loves.

Yes, and they're slower and he has less movement and tricks than in DMC4. Next.

>waaah I know DMC5 doesnt have as good of a combo experience than DMC4 but stop saying so! waaah

Story, level design, are all secondary. People play DMC to do cool combos, period.

>Inertia isn't there cuz realistic graphics
Gameplay > graphics.

>but for most players it means nothing
Lowering the skill ceiling, making it slower, taking away options is a downgrade even if you're too bad to do it. Devs try to keep dumbing their games down but it just ends up in a more shallow boring experience. You can still have options for the great players without taking away anything from scrubs like you.

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You're overestimating how hard it is to get SSS.

RG cancel is in, roll guarding was taken out in 4 if thats what you mean. anyway you're responding to a guy who said rebellion was the only useful weapon in 4, clearly a retard bro, dont bother you're talking to a brick wall

>slower attacks
Just no turbo.

>no rg cancel
Some stuff can be canceled

Calling the game dumbed down because certain moves don't have inertia when Dante has an actual set of weapons and not just stuff that sets up Rebellion combos is incredibly disingenuous.

How do you unlock V's EX outfit?

No it isn't. It's just more frantic. Otherwise it's hardly any different outside of input delay timing being shortened and timers going faster.

You people are just stupid.

>>Yes, and they're slower and he has less movement and tricks than in DMC4. Next.
BUT THEY ARENT SLOWER.
THEY OBJECTIVELY ARENT.

>Inertia isn't there cuz realistic graphics
Inertia isnt there because its a different fucking engine you idiot.

There is none and the game is inherently slower. I would like Capcom to add a turbo mode and prove me wrong, but I doubt it.

But it ISNT slower you fucking idiot.

yeah DMC5 combos are far worse than DMC4 in some ways, but they're also better in some ways. DSD is objectively better than rebellion. Sin DT is objectively better than no SDT. in no world can you call DMC5 dante objetively worse than DMC4 dante, however you could call DMC5 nero objectively better than DMC4 nero. its all give and take nig

The weapon thing is an obvious hyperbole to get the point across dimwit. Gilgamesh are probably the worst gauntlets in the series, Lucifer is very unique but obviously can't be used as a standard weapon so it's mainly there for setups.

Beat Nero's post-credit fight.

post-game*

>but muh Kewl Dante
>but muh combo
Yes, Dante being cool and the players being doing flashy combos are what DMC is all about. Not being slow, sacrificing stuff for the sake of uncanny graphics. Thanks for admitting you're only a bandwaggon fan instead and didn't know the core appeal of the franchise.

Modded 3SE makes DMC5 look like a joke. Agreed.

It actually does. He'll never make anything as flashy as DMC3 and DMC4 combo vids because 5 is too slow and limited.

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Inertia looks stupid anyway.

i just started playing the dmc games and anons told me that this game doesn't have gatekeepers and elitists

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white haired anime dudes with swords look stupid too. all their moves look stupid and unrealistic too

Stating facts =/= Elitism
I never once said people aren't allowed to enjoy DMC5. I'm just pointing out how slower and shallow, so unsatisfying the game is.

I thought I had beaten it but looks like I didn't. Thanks, user.

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Stop mass replying without actually saying anything noteworthy.

Fucking Yea Forums specializes in psuedo elitist faggots like you that can't even do any of the high level shit you're complaining is missing. You're literally just stirring shit to stir shit, and to try and seem like some sort of cool elitist at a child's toy.

Christ why are you fucking idiots even falling for this bait. Is this your first day here?

What the fuck did Inertia even do?
I didn't even know it was a thing until people were bitching about DMC5 not having it like 2 weeks before launch

Epic bait original poster i can't belive people bait.
Also just one thread faggots i'm too busy playing dmd to keep an eye on the catalog sperging out with white haired boomer cry

I just remember he quit for a bit because real life got in the way.

Yeah and 3SE>4 (story and overall). 4 BP is shit (design and stage background), 4 Dante's DT design looks horrid compared to 3. 3SE makes 4 and 5 look like a joke

this post literally said nothing. i got nothing out of this except that you're mad.

You didn't know it was a thing because you're a bandwagonner. Inertia, rg cancels and fast attacks have always been a thing. But you started from DMC5 so you wouldn't know.

The anons acting as if inertia makes or breaks the game sound just like people who unironically enjoy Soulsborne PvP.

>454895129
>ask a question
>WOW YOU'RE A BANDWAGONER
Thanks, my dude

the big thing was it let you guard fly. aside from that it just let you add some movement into your combos that made them look a lot cooler, like you could drift in a direction in midair while doing a rainstorm or aerial rave

>the game is the same speed as the older ones but is missing one glitch that people only use in combo MAD videos
>that means it's a shit game

Neat.

Post vids of you playing.

rg cancels are still in DMC5????? why is everyone acting like they're not?

Not just inertia, rg cancel and fast attacks. 5 feels so slow, this is Street Fighter 5 all over again. And no, no one said it breaks the game, the fact that you have to make things up to justify defending a dumbed down game is pure cope.

noo user he will call it appeal to achievements. you can't say that.

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>Not just inertia, rg cancel and fast attacks. 5 feels so slow, this is Street Fighter 5 all over again. And no, no one said it breaks the game, the fact that you have to make things up to justify defending a dumbed down game is pure cope.
>5 feels so slow

I feel like you have to played this game beyond Human mode.

I'm glad that guardtrickguardtrickgaurdswordtrick is gone, dmc4 felt like it was destroying my fucking hands trying to play stylishly. Now we have more complexity than 3 but it's also fun to play.

what the fuck is happening. are you saying style switching is gone? are you the same guy saying RG cancels are gone? both of these things are very obviously in the game. i feel like im going insane

Oh goodness I'm fucking dying

>RG cancels are still in
>RG cancels are gone

Stay classy Yea Forums.

If he wants to speak from a point of mastery then he needs to prove it, otherwise he's just an armchair pro gamer.

No one respects LTG when he calls a game or a character shit.

No, but now everything doesn't need to be rapidly rg cancelled to be stylish. In 4 there was no point playing Dante unless you rg cancelled your ass off.

i too believe that Yea Forums is one person

so basically you're just mad that there's no turbo mode. yeah it sucks, mod it in on PC if you cant enjoy the game without it. youll get used to it pretty quick if you give a shot though, default speed feels very appropriate for endgame nero especially

When did I mention turbo mode? I'd like it but it's not a big deal for me. The only thing I'm a bit disappointed by is some of the boss fights and that they ditch dynamic sound tracks in the last half of the game. It's my favourite dmc game now beating out 3.

Not implying that, just point out the retarded nature of this thread were people are just claiming shit and no one is proving anything.

the only thing different about RG cancels is that there is no turbo mode so they feel slower. they can be literally used in the exact same way they were in 4

So why are some fags crying about devil sword Dante again? You get all of rebellions moves plus a built in lucifer, how can you twist that as a bad thing just because helm breaker is now the same as Neros input?

boot up the game, do million stab, and then activate royal guard. you will cancel the million stab with the royal guard animation. i didnt think this needed proof, just go do it

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Right, but unlike 4 each style and weapon has way more to it so you can still be super stylish without inputting 8 style swaps and 4 rg cancels a second. 5 feels like a perfect hybrid of 3 and 4s gameplay.

cuz muh muscle memory. DSD is objectively better than rebellion and is one of the best changes to DMC5 overall. they even give you the choose to still use rebellion, i dont get how anyone could be mad about it

I really hope the next game is just post-game Nero for an entire campaign.

sorry mang i think i was just assuming you were the guy claiming RG cancels aren't in the game. seems like u got ur head in the right place my b

Stay stylish!

So I just got to the part where I unlocked Dante (from the Devil May Cry series) and I'm a bit confused about playing as V.

It it literally just spam square + triangle to cool or am I missing something?

DSD is fucking amazing fun and shits on dantes old swords, it feels like an actual devil arm with a full move set instead of training wheels. Prove me wrong.

griffon's charged moves are really good. but yeah thats kinda it. on higher diffs shadow and griff may actually die so its more about meter management and just keeping v out of danger while being close enough to mash. of course you can still do cool juggles and stuff if you want but its really not his focus as a character. i consider him a nice breather inbetween nero and dante mssions

Inertia is still in the game retard. It's just cancelled by enemy step.

the lack of inertia is killing my joy, I don’t even feel like playing anymore, to be honest

>Comboing with my boy V
What the fuck I love donguri now.

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V feels like the dev team compromise on gimmick levels, they didn't add gimmick levels but they added a strange gimmick character to play between Dante and Nero levels. V is pretty fun when you get into the groove though.

whats the key to those guys that teleport around with the sciscor hands? parry them? those and furys are keeping me from this mission 10 s rank

Anyone finding killer bee JCs hard as fuck to pull off?
Learn to jump cancel your attacks to stay on them in the air, beat their ass then dodge the counter attack and repeat. Since you're in the air you don't have to worry about other enemies in the area.

>No one plays DMC to "be functional". It's to be as over the top as possible.
If it's not functional, it doesn't matter. Nobody cares if people can do stylish weird combos if they struggle through basic gameplay outside of specific setups.

I just wish it had an actual swordmaster moveset instead of the summoned swords and didn't lock prop shredder behind a combo

Nice combat but overall bad / forgettable soundtrack and horrible story / level design, all giving it very little to no replay value. And this is coming from a lifelong DMC fan. It's very unfortunate, but it's the truth.

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stylish combos are functional thats what makes DMC good. keeping an enemy in the air juggled keeps them vulnerable and keeps you out of danger. doing that while raising your style gauge is hard but looks dope

sounds like you played each game once on normal

>i dont get how anyone could be mad about it
Dante can do drive with rebellion in 4
Can't do drive in 5 without DSD

It is an unnecessary nerf to make big dick DSD looks better

>all-japanese dev team hands production over to westerners
>game turns to shit
Like fucking CLOCKWORK
MAKE IT STOP

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Barry's really working overtime now, huh?

it IS better

>fallacies
LOL stfu you fucking nerd.

Nope. Played each game on every difficulty on all platforms except PC.

Turbo when? Game feels slow

Right now: nexusmods.com/devilmaycry5/mods/29

Sure, user.

>BP patch will kill the mod and force us to play with denuvo

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