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Aaron Clark
I wonder how it'd feel to have worms wrap around your dick while you're in her
Zachary Bailey
What's with the worms
Ryder Flores
>gacha shit
No thanks.
Ryder Stewart
fate/sucks
Austin Williams
I love Sakura, bros...
Jordan Roberts
Christopher Clark
Worthless used goods gets fucked by worms and her loser of a brother
Benjamin Smith
hey worm bitch, whatcha cookin'? WORM BITCH.
Nolan Bell
I'm so fucking sorry...
Brayden Hernandez
HF is a masterpiece
Connor Taylor
They super magical worms that give loads of mana
Anthony Brown
NO NO NO DELETE THIS I HATE SAKURA AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Bentley Perez
Text me when fate goes back to its roots.
Kevin James
Patrician.
Jackson Robinson
Best Girl
Isaac Morris
heavens feel 3 is going to be the greatest film of all time
>kirei vs assasin
>9 lives bladeworks
>rin vs sakura
>shirou vs kirei
thats like 60% of the best scenes in the fate franchise in one film
Blake Hall
Reminder that Nasu has never written kamige and japanese have never considered his works good at all.
Liam Baker
If you take out all the eating and walking around town talking about nothing and the novels worth if infodumps, sure.
Lucas Ramirez
>I have ADHD: the post
Lincoln Hill
More like worms.
John Lopez
Fate / Zero was a masterpiece.
Everything else has been OKish at most.
Wish Gen U would rewrite all of its stupid weebtastic cringe lore.
Cameron Morales
Sakura's family was a bunch of shitheads who literally gave her away to another family of magicians who were in decline and relied on fucking bugs to retain what little power they had.
Then her total bitch of a sister acted like it was the biggest surprise in the world that she was being forced to fuck bugs.
THEN it turns out that the family took fragments of the holy grail from the last holy grail war, turned it into a bug, and put it into Sakura.
Thing is, if you take a girl who is already stupidly powerful, then put her on magical roids, she becomes fucking unstoppable. But if you give her something that just sucks up magic with a downright bottomless thirst, you have a fucking unstoppable magical girl who must consume literally everything or go nuts, which only makes her consume more due to a lack of restraint.
And then you have an unstoppable all-consuming wormgirl with zero reservations about doing literally ANYTHING, because for all intents & purposes, she's kind of turning into a god.
Also, the worms look like dicks.
Jaxon Lopez
W O R M E D
Easton Martinez
>the entire thing is about wizards trying to reach the Root and nobody can do it
Is Nasu a genius? Is this what he intended all along?
Grayson Sanders
Worst girl
Worst route
Connor Nelson
Was a real something that in the movie Kirei says that not ALL of the worms have been removed. Shirou really should of put on a condom.
Jeremiah Flores
>If you take out all the eating
You motherfucker don't appreciate finer things in life
Carson Perez
Zero butchered Toukomi
in theory giving Sakura away like that was a decent move. It's just it turns out Zouken has been alive for centuries and has no need of a real heir and his insane as fuck
Nolan Miller
Truly the perfect wife.
Jordan Perry
>people actually like this personality devoid non character who's only contribution to her route was to be the walking plot device
12 years later and I still dont understand Sakurafans. The -only- thing that I can sort of see is if they are all dedicated white knights who hold personality and storyrole as unimportant over their love of a damsel in distress.
Colton Brown
>tfw Fate/Prototype never ever
Leo Smith
The curry scenes were just hilarious.
>Hey, you know that guy who stabbed you even though you weren't involved in this magical war?
>Yeah, he worked for me. So it's kind of all my fault you got pulled into this whole mess.
>But he's dead now. Haha. Hope there's no hard feelings.
Sebastian Morgan
Evan Mitchell
the only good fate ending was heaven feel's good ending
prove me wrong
Hunter Young
I hate it!
William Powell
>still no Tsukihime adaptation
it's not fair bros
Dominic Brown
Reminder that Nasu said FGO is ending and DW is already starting work on their own IP to prepare for it.
frontlinejp.net
Nolan Ward
he's talking about the Zouken control bug that is linked to her heart
Samuel Bell
she's at her worst in HF, the movies make her more appealing. You see a cute kouhai who likes to cook and is like family
Yeah she has some jealous moments but whatever. Then you see her dark side, which admittedly is pretty well justified
HF didn't have a good ending so there
retard
It had an "End", True End, and Normal Ending you fucking pleb
Nicholas Diaz
This post reeks of secondary. Lets break it down
>Sakura's family was a bunch of shitheads who literally gave her away to another family of magicians who were in decline and relied on fucking bugs to retain what little power they had.
Tokiomi had no idea that this was the true nature of Zouken's magecraft. Tokiomi actually believed that he was doing Sakura a favour since she was born with an extremely rate (yet mostly useless) element and would likely have been targeted by the Mage Association for a Sealing Designation then endless experimentation.
Mage families will often have two children in case the main heir dies before taking on the crest. It just so happens that with Rin and Sakura that they were both born with incredibly rate and interesting elements. As Sakura's role in the eyes of the association was to only ever be an emergency crest backup they would have had no qualms in taking her and sealing her.
>Then her total bitch of a sister acted like it was the biggest surprise in the world that she was being forced to fuck bugs.
It was a complete surprise to her. She literally didnt have a clue. She knew that Sakura was unhappy and melancholic but put that down to Shinji being a cunt.
>THEN it turns out that the family took fragments of the holy grail from the last holy grail war, turned it into a bug, and put it into Sakura.
This is the only part that is correct.
Jonathan Watson
>She just rips it out on her own like it was nothing at all
Fucking based & wormpilled.
Christian Robinson
>good ending
It had a "True end" or "Normal end". If you are referring to the "True end", its decent but completely eclipsed by both UBW endings and by Last Episode.
Last Episode in particular was best. Especially for the characters involved. Shirou literally became batman in life; never needed support from the planet so never did an Archer and kept his promise to his waifu allowing him to end up with her in their own personal afterlife.
Carson Taylor
Best route.
Benjamin Murphy
The fight scene between Saber Alter and Hercules was so good bros
Juan Moore
>not mind of steel
>white knighting for thots instead of putting them in their place
Jackson Collins
Rin walked in through the front door of the house and found the worm room in like 3 minutes tops. This was not a closely guarded secret. Also, she didn't seem to mind this big revelation when she found out in UBW. Either that, or she was an absolute retard who couldn't figure out that it was connected to Sakura's room.
Rin is a bitch.
Julian Gutierrez
Worst route but with some admittedly excellent moments.
Those moments dont cancel out the terrible downtime and boring repetition though.
>Cooking again
>Sakura sick again
>hurrr
Christopher Smith
Rin never had any reason to investigate the Matos. Sakura never suggested to her what treatment she was receiving and Rin had neither the power nor the clout to go and stick her nose into other mage family affairs
All of how mages intereact has been passed down by the Association. Outside of them deeming you a threat and sealing you; all mages leave each other the fuck alone and would hardly ever interact with eachother.
You can act like a retarded secondary as much as you like to justify your retarded opinion on Rin but it is explained in detail in the game that she had no idea of what was happening inside the Matou house hold outside of Shinji being a general cunt.
Nathan Anderson
>HF didn't have a good ending
the good ending is where shirou kills the wormslut
Jace Russell
Was Fate:Zero ever referenced in the UBW anime?
I watched it before reading HF, and found it odd Sakura never mentioned pic related, until I noticed the dates.
Angel Cruz
More importantly how the fuck would nobody know about Zouken's bug magic when he's a million years old and uses his bug magic openly, including in the previous grail war that the Tohsakas were in
Ryder Long
It references Zero plenty but nobody references Kariya ever because nobody gave a shit about him
Even Gilles gets references
John Bell
>Have literally your only immediate surviving family member living with another family of sneaky wizards
>no reason to look into them
>Be literally in charge of overseeing everything in the area except the holy grail war itself
>no power or clout
Jesus christ, dude. By all means, say "secondary" a few more times. I'm sure it'll save your bitch waifu's honor.
Gavin Barnes
Well, UBW came out before F/Z so any backstory in it would have been adapted to fit but F/Z can provide foreshadowing for all of the routes, not just HF.
HF only occurs if True Assassin shows up if he didnt its a moot point
Anthony White
only the fact that Kirei killed Tokiomi and that Gilgamesh and Saber faught during the 4th HGW
Jeremiah Bailey
>HF only occurs if True Assassin shows up if he didnt its a moot point
False, the divergence happens when Shirou walks Sakura home
Kevin Moore
Ok, tertiary:
-Rin didnt hand anyone over
-Rin is the overseer of the area but is not the Mage Police. As long the families on her turf arnt threatening to destroy the whole area and attract the ire of the general public and/or church then she has no reason to intervene
-She doesnt know Sakura at all. She was 6/7 when they were separated. Sakura was Shinji's sister for longer than she was Rin's as far as a family setup goes
But please, continue ignoring LITERALLY EVERYTHING that the game tells you about mage culture. Whatever you need to justify your hate boner and need for blame.
The ONLY person who is to blame for Sakura's situation is Zouken.
William Green
This. It's literally just a by-chance conversation with Zoukan which convinced him to take part in the HGW after all.
Robert Ramirez
>mfw the best F/SN route is the literal fanfic (doujin novel series) by another (albeit pro) writer
Sebastian Morales
How educated was she really?
James Long
Rin didnt know. Her father died when she was 7 before he had any chance to pass on any knowledge to her. And by all rights, Tokiomi thought he was doing a good thing by handing Sakura to the Matous.
You can call him extremely naive and dumb and you'd be right. But he genuinely didnt have any knowledge of Zouken's plan to turn Sakura into a makeshift holy grail by forcefully changing the nature of her magecraft by worm implantation and embedding holy grail shards in her.
Sebastian Morris
Rather. Shirou doesnt lie.
Lincoln Taylor
Kirei is the best part of HF
Julian Cooper
A better question would be who was the most educated? Sakura or Kohaku?
Jeremiah Torres
How would Shirou know educated prostitues?
Juan Brooks
It's not just Tokiomi, the three families have been involved in the grail war for ages and Zouken was representing his all that time, it's stupid for them to not know what he does
Juan Lewis
Rin was a total bitch in HF, ever Rin herself would agree.
Sakura was not justified in what she did, but it was understandable.
Ryder Sanchez
Man, you seem to be absolutely seething over the fact that Rin is a total bitch who did nothing about Sakura's situation the moment she found the worm room in UBW even though that should've been Priority Fucking One.
Or even when it was revealed that Shinji had a servant & was taking part in the war in Fate.
Hell, the game literally spelled out for the player in UBW that Sakura was the actual summoner as a bit of foreshadowing, and she either couldn't out 2 & 2 together, or just didn't care. So again: retard or bitch.
Jace Williams
Rin does not know.
Again, Tokiomi died before telling her anything. All Rin knows is that is responsible for the general area and to be on the look out for rouge mage families trying to invade.
Joseph Wright
Warning: do not open.
Ayden Johnson
So when's the second movie gonna get subbed? BD's are already out for at least a month.
Luis Rivera
Does anyone know if the Fate Zero Standard BluRay Box from Japan has English subtitles?
Some people said it does (along ENG audio), but no store says it has more than Japanese audio and thats it.
Now that individual Boxes I and II are OOP, this could be my chance to own it, if it does indeed have ENG subs.
Code: ANSX-13431
Liam Stewart
Better than getting Gilgamesh'd.
Carter Brooks
IT'S NOT FAIR
Joseph Nguyen
>Tohsaka
Who knows what Tokiomi knew about the Matos but he didnt know what Zouken's intentions were with Sakura. His opinion of them was "long time neighboors who are going through shit times with their magic drying up and no heir". Zouken changed his appearance throughout his life anyways so who knows how much anyone knew about him
>Einzburn
They wouldnt have given a sweet crispy fuck about the situation whatever it was. They are obsessed with the holy grail. Its not really a "mage family" any mor rather its more a system for producing homonculi that can compete in HGWs and try to win to re-create the third magic
Joshua Reed
Holy shit, are you dyslexic or are you having an aneurysm?
Daniel Collins
>le seething meme
>getting this defensive over facts
Calm down user. I am simply telling you what the VN could tell you, if you ever bothered to read it.
You are the one determined to insert your headcanon into the matter to justify your retarded opinion towards a character
James Lopez
Does she have a route or at least gets dicked in the original VN?
Jaxson Jackson
>t. dumbass
Rin was somewhat busy trying to not die in a Holy Grail War at the times you mentioned, you silly cunt.
Ryan Rogers
At least in UBW you don't have time to get attached to her, unless you count carryover from Fate route. In HF she's your closest ally and by that point you should be more attached to her than Sakura, even if HF Shirou is too much of a singleminded faggot to appreciate it until it's too late.
Jace Ward
She's your step-sister you sick fuck. She rides your dick though in UBW (or was it fate?)
Gabriel Scott
>defensive
I don't think you know what that word means.
Jason Richardson
She sits on your lap in the Fate route.
Jose Ramirez
>. In HF she's your closest ally
That would be Rin but your sentiment is correct. There were a number of scenes in HF with Ilya where she comes across amazingly well.
I always thought it was funny that Ilya was able to connect with the audience in a few scenes where Sakura wasnt able to for most of the route or ever in the case of some folks.
William Diaz
You know what's a good not-dying strategy? Not letting your sister be a fucking hostage.
David Lewis
Rides your dick literally, or just cockteases acts clingy oniichan, etc...?
I will read this if shes gets the D canonically.
Elijah Parker
You are the very definition of it, mate
>"HURRR [character I dont like] IS A BITCH!!!"
>That is wrong. Here is why
>NO U JUST SEETHING HURRRR
Luis Carter
>he doesn't know
Illya not having a route is the biggest blueball in the history of VNs. She and Rider were also supposed to have routes in the original draft of F/SN, but they had to be cut and crunched into HF.
Not to mention all the teasing in HA, Nasu has continued to dig at the wound ever since, including a joke statement that Prisma is her """real route""".
Adam Ramirez
Just lapsitting which looks unneccesarily lewd though.
Henry Sanders
Sakura had no involvement or relevance in Fate or UBW though so this "hostage" shit is just retarded.
Rin trying to not get killed by Ilya/Herc/Gilgamesh/Medea/Medusa/Kotomine/Cu however is relevant.
Caleb Smith
>Meme of steel
Enjoy getting blacked
Sebastian Torres
Man that sucks.
I'll keep being secondary shit tier then.
Thanks bros.
Nolan Turner
She wasnt being held hostage in the other two routes though. Dont be fucking retarded.
Sebastian Smith
Not blood related siblings are like the ultimate green light for fucking in Japan though.
Owen Gomez
You haven't given an actual reason why and you're being a massive raging faggot over your waifu being called the bitch she is.
Also, you kind of dismissed literally everything over the use of the word seething. I don't know if there's a reason for that or if it's just impotent rage, but hey, seethe more.
Julian Sanchez
>NBR
boring
Thomas Gomez
Rin is not as smart as she thinks she is. She cant even program a DVR.
Jeremiah Gray
Gavin Diaz
>pointing out your retarded headcanon and need for a hateboner
>somehow I'm in the wrong
If you could frist explain why you are a foaming at the mouth autist over being told you are factually wrong, that would be great.
Its always people who rely on their weak headcanon who get as anally ravaged as you do when they are rightly called out. You can think whatever you like of Rin, I really dont give a shit. But if you are posting stuff thats fudamentally wrong you should be prepared for people to call you a faggot about it.
Samuel Reed
What part of "letting" do you not understand? How the fuck was Sakura not in legit potential danger, even if Rin was so retarded as to believe she wasn't actually involved in the war?
Evan Wilson
The true crime is theres no option that replaces Archer with Choo Choo. The dynamic between Lancer and Rin is 10/10
John Hill
>You can think whatever you like of Rin, I really dont give a shit.
Seething.
Luke Hernandez
Even if she was or wasnt (and she wasnt in Fate or UBW) Rin had other priorities at the time which included not fucking dying in a battle royale featuring superpowered heros.
Christ you sound retarded.
Brody Watson
Every day until you like it.
Oliver Reyes
It's pretty great that it turned out he was literally Archer, only he openly wants to fuck everything that moves.
Jason Perez
>"Oh fuck, he has completely blown me the fuck out!"
>"I know! I'll say "Seething" again!. That'll help me save face!"
Well, its been fun reducing you to this.
Aaron Hughes
>and she wasnt in Fate or UBW
>She was the summoner
>It was even spelled out in UBW. For Rin.
Okay, we're just going in circles here.
Nicholas Torres
Haha, Tsukihime may be dead, but at least Len got her own route.
Cooper Thompson
Keep seething dude.
Christian Thompson
>She was a summoner
>Of a Servant that was killed very early on in both Fate and UBW
Yes, and you are looking more and more stupid with every repetition
Sakura was not a threat nor threatened in either UBW or Fate. Rin had far bigger problems in both routes than Sakura. How hard is it for you to grasp this basic concept
Nicholas Robinson
>Yea Forums banned fish threads and forced Naruto threads
I can't believe the original Yea Forums board is dead...
Ryder Rogers
Not that i was part of the argument before, but remember that Rin is a mage. Mages in fate have all been shown to have massively skewed priorities in life. Theres a reason people in the setting that know the truth about magecraft and know mages, generally don't like mages. Their way of thinking is so far removed from normal human behavior.
Blame the system Rin was born into, it made her like that. Even if all it took was autistic ginger dick to undo that.
Kevin Russell
Jeremiah Murphy
Xavier Hernandez
that doesnt change the fact that rin sleeps with old men for money
Dylan Diaz
And also remember that the game goes to great lengths to point out how nice a person Rin is for a mage. So much so that her nice nature directly contradicts what her upbringing and role demand she be.
Its an interesting dichotomy. One unfortunately wasted on brainlets who obsess over their own headcanon
John Campbell
Extra Sakura Best Sakura
Sebastian Watson
I never defended her on that regard
Caleb Lewis
New chapter when? Its been ages since the last one.
Joshua Hughes
Wasn't that just a rumor Luvia started to keep suitors away from Rin, leaving her with no choice but to marry Luvia?
Noah Butler
>how nice a person Rin is for a mage.
That's kind of a low bar to set, considering 99% of mages in the setting are amoral sociopaths
Justin Gomez
Its literally just shitposting.
Carson King
According to Urobuchi, Rin's dad didn't know about the worms raping Sakura, but if he did know he wouldn't have cared, as long as it made her a good mage.
Mages have very fucked up priorities.
Andrew Jackson
Sure but she is still shown to be extremely virtuous and selfless across all three routes. Sure she also has moments where her mage programming gets in the way of her decision making but in the end she always makes the morally right choice; even if its tactically the wrong choice.
Jack Jackson
William Sanders
It stems from a MTSP h-manga series where Rin fucks old people for money.
Hudson Rivera
Wasn't it because Kirei was given control of her family's finances and purposely squandered it for shits and giggles, causing to have to start selling off her family's stuff to make ends meet?
Luis Lopez
Yes, and I'm countering shitposting with yuri because it's the one thing guaranteed to make old man-NTRfags genuinely upset.
Evan Thomas
Aye, Tokiomi was the very embodiment of "mage" thinking. Completely stuck in his ways. Even his attempts at charity and mercy were dictated by logic rather than feeling
>Have Sakura
>Either goes to a strange family who have no heir for unknown reasons or gets taken by the accociation for experimentation and death
>The former sounds good. She lives; she is not my problem and the strange family get an heir and owe me big time
Eli Russell
I'm familiar with the source, it's just really boring to see dumb fags derail every fate thread with le old men xD or wormposting.
Thomas Roberts
Couldn't he just have kept her and not trained her?
Or did the thought not even cross his mind?
Josiah Johnson
Fate is the one series I refuse to accept NTR existing for, because it's completely fucking nonsensical. The girls getting coerced, threatened, and tricked into sex are literally so much more powerful than the old men that they could rip his guts out, strangle him with them, and then use a spell to make everyone who ever knew him forget he exists. And you expect me to believe these ugly old shits have leverage on them? And that's just Rin and Sakura, never fucking mind what a goddamn servant like Medusa or Saber could do to them.
Parker Davis
That's the most horrible thing to mages ever. How can you LIVE knowing you have magic but the family Crest won't be passed down to you?
Easton Barnes
You DO realize you are talking about Rin, the bitch who literally tried to murder Shirou in UBW and give him a fate worse than death in the bad end in Fate simply because he was a POTENTIAL threat, right?
We are talking about THAT Rin.
Now, that very same Rin, who is fully established to not take chances learns that the magical family which has her sister is taking part in the same war she is. Are we still on the same page? Do I need to repeat anything? How is this Rin not going to see the very obvious potential problem here? No. She doesn't even need to think Sakura is taking part at this point. Her sister is both in clear potential danger and can potentially be used against her. These are inarguable facts which Rin, the bitch who doesn't fuck around when it comes to potential threats, SHOULD have figured out. This is a fuckheug problem, if anything. Hell, she should have been storming that front door in Fate the moment Rider got Excalibur'd in order to make sure that family wasn't going to be a problem anymore while she was dealing with the OTHER hercules-wielding family.
Cameron Sullivan
He's a mage, and two heirs is anathema to mages because they can only pass their magic on to one heir. In his warped mind, Sakura would be squandered if he kept her since she'd serve no purpose, he thought he was doing her a favor by giving her a chance to become a real mage.
Nasu has said very explicitly it's a good thing Tokiomi died in Zero, because Rin only became such a good mage because she never knew how awful he was and wasn't warped by his influence.
Justin Williams
That was never an option
She was never going to be trained in magecraft as a Tohsaka as mages only hand their Crest (the sum total of their entire family history's efforts on magecraft) to their first born.
They have second children in case the first one dies and to provide for arranged mage marriages.
Rin and Sakura were bon with incredibly rare elements. Both of these elements would have been extremely prized by the accociation. Rin, as the heir of the family; was afforded complete protection as no mage not the accociation will mess with the family heir. This is not the case for any other child born after the first.
The Association would have heard about Sakura's element. They would have then issued a sealing designation on her which is something no mage could go against. This would have allowed them to take her for themselves and basically turn her into experimental material due to her Imaginary Numbers element.
Tokiomi's logic was that the only way for Sakura to survive was to make her the heir of another mage family so that she was afforded the same protection as Rin. This is why he gave her to the Matous.
Sakura was dealt a shit hand from the beginning, really.
Levi Baker
Reminder that Nasu modeled Rin and Sakura after his older sisters and wouldn't hate either of them.
Isaac Ross
>You DO realize you are talking about Rin, the bitch who literally tried to murder Shirou in UBW and give him a fate worse than death in the bad end in Fate
The worst she does to him is erase his memories. In UBW her attempt to "kill" him is a fucking temper tantrum at best, one that was successfully thwarted by a mage so ridiculously bad at magic that it later baffled Rin he's able to use it at all. You're really missing the point on Rin, she tries to force herself to be a cold mage but chokes up because she can't go through with it. She has to screw herself up REAL bad in HF to do what she does to Sakura.
Aiden Jackson
>Nasus older sister was an educated prostitute
Luis Gray
>the bitch who literally tried to murder Shirou in UBW
Secondary, if you are referring to the Gandr scene I will laugh hard at you.
She doesnt kill him. She mind wipes him and takes his seals. He goes back to his normal life without ever knowing or remembering the war.
Jaxon Cooper
Another Fate guy here.
No. She was busy.
Carter Davis
Yes, this is the Rin that used a gem storing 10 YEARS worth of Prana that could have unleashed a spell with the power from the age of gods with no cast time in order to save someone who she barely knew who died because of the HGW she found herself in.
And the "bad ending" you refer to is Rin literally sparing Shirou from the rest of the war by mind wiping him. And any other bad end involving her, she mercy kills Shirou as he'd gotten fucked over badly by people like Medea or Ilya
Your stupidity is only as great as your impotent rage.
Thomas Cooper
>HURRRR WHY COULDNT A PERSON STOP TRYING TO SURVIVE FOR ONE MINUTE TO CHECK ON HER ESTRANGED SISTER WHO BY ALL ACCOUNTS IS SAFE AND WELL DURRRR
This type of dedicated Sakurafag are dangerously derranged.
Mason Jackson
>write a slut character
>but also write her as a virgin
What did nasu mean by this?
Colton James
Sakura isnt a virgin though?
Robert Murphy
Why is it that Fate more than any other weebshit is so adversely affected by secondaries? Call anyone a secondary about some other anime and you're just being an elitist fag, but a Fate secondary somehow is a real, detrimental thing that pollutes conversation.
Jaxson Williams
What slut? Sakura isn't a virgin, and Rin is a depraved predatory lesbian who is only kept away from poor innocent girls by her ignorance to her own nature.
Noah Morales
Because the adaptations change shit and aren't canon
Oliver Robinson
Wasn't Rin purposefully raised wrongly as a joke, to make her an ineffective mage?
Kevin Murphy
Saber is best girl of the 3 anyway.
Andrew Thomas
Its mainly because over the years there have been a number of entry points that have been made available that are not the original VN
People who only watch F/Z or DEEN/Stay Night or UFOTableUBW or the HF movies have no clue about the actual scenario as a whole. And F/SN and the Nasuverse as a whole are incredibly intricate and fleshed out in detail. Not knowing the finer points and assuming you are right because you only watched an anime is a legitimate problem here.
The influx of secondaries after the F/Z anime was the worst time to be a Nasuverse fan
Kayden Ortiz
> Rin is a depraved predatory lesbian who is only kept away from poor innocent girls by her ignorance to her own nature.
The only female Rin has ever canonically found attractive is Saber though.
And Saber has that effect on everyone in F/SN, really.
Jayden Morgan
he hates it!
Kayden Hernandez
No, you're muddying two different things. She wasn't raised as a normal mage past age 8 or so because her dad died and she was left in Kirei's care. He was a dick to her and tormented her, but he didn't exactly teach her incorrectly. She was raised incorrectly as a mage in that because she was left without the autistic, cruel influence of her dad she was able to develop normal human senses of morality and justice. She is a talented mage, but thinks of ethics in the way a normal girl might.
Henry Clark
Not "raised wrong" as much as "self-raised". Kotomine provided the bare minimum and Rin hated him from the beginning so didnt reply on him for much at all.
Camden Flores
Because there's a metric shitton of stuff to learn about the Nasuverse and if you're approaching it from a loose adaption or a spinoff you're gonna be asking a million dumb questions. The Zero anime was the worst case of this by far, with a billion normalfags who'd never even heard of Fate picking it up.
David Rogers
Yeah, but arguing for 2nd place is fun.
Aaron Parker
>The only female Rin has ever canonically found attractive is Saber though.
Wasn't she into Rider in HA?
Lucas Campbell
Rin explicitly states that the Matous and the Tohsakas had a strict no fraternization policy outside of grail wars, and Tohsaka being the naive girl she is never thought to break that rule to check on her sister
Evan Hall
I dont think she is "into" Rider other than appreciating that Rider is gorgeous.
Its more Rider being into Mitsuzuri in F/HA. Medusa is by far a more predatory lesbian than Rin ever is.
Grayson Carter
Doesnt count either because Rider is pretty hot.
Tyler Foster
Don't forget about the ending.
Joseph Sullivan
>never thought to break that rule to check on her sister
That and Sakura was essentially a stranger to her. They were both bery young when they were separated.
Jack Williams
Sakura loves Shiro the most and deserves to be happy
Gabriel Garcia
they should have a face off where the public decides which is more educated
Landon Rivera
But both Rider and Rin are protective onee-sans to Sakura. I'm seeing a pattern here. Sakura turns women around her gay!
Brandon Jones
>Sakura loves Shiro the most
Unlikely. Artoria loved Shirou so much that her love for him allowed him to transcend time and space to find her in her own personal afterlife.
I dont think this can realistically be topped.
Zachary Cruz
>At least in UBW you don't have time to get attached to her, unless you count carryover from Fate route
I absolutely do, and it made me feel really really bad
I stopped reading UBW for like a week after she went to her appointment with Dr. Gil
Elijah Cooper
Kirei is the best part of everything
Sebastian Howard
>I dont think this can realistically be topped.
I dunno. Rin loved him so much he managed to survive the catalyzing moment that turned every other Shirou into Archer. Think about it. That makes her love stronger than seigi, than swords, maybe even stronger than the high jump.
Gavin Collins
God, Saber is so perfect
Easton Cooper
Reminder that she grew a futa cock, railed her older sister all night long and bore a son(female) with her.
Levi Jackson
to be fair she is just a rip off the older thing type moon did
Easton Adams
But Dr Gil saves the lives of young girls. Dont spreak fake news.
Kevin James
Aren't they all just looking for something that'll lead them to being God in the end? Isn't every mage in the Nasuverse just looking to become God in some sense?
Levi Watson
So are all the F/SN heroines on a very basic and shallow level.
Dont be retarded
Bentley Gray
Who?
Adrian Rogers
Morgana actually put Artoria in an enchanted sleep whilst she extracted her seed and created Mordred as a homunclus from it
Blame Merlin for the whole situation though
Brody Adams
>very basic and shallow level.
but thats what they are
Jacob Watson
...so where a newfag can start "properly"?
John Gomez
What part of "dont be retarded" dont you understand?
Tyler Davis
With the VN
Jeremiah Hill
Sakura is a poor abused cinnamon roll and deserves to be loved
Nicholas Cook
Haha, pretty good prank if I say so myself.
Matthew Roberts
Read the VN
Aaron Myers
Rider is literally Mitsuzuri-sexual as a lark since Mitsuzuri's design was originally for Rider
Angel Phillips
>underestimating the power of faceless fat/old hentai men
Easton Price
Kohaku is a poor abused cinnamon role who actualyl also managed to be an interesting character with an interesting personality.
Just because you are abused doesnt mean you automatically earn my interest
Zachary Gonzalez
>he managed to survive the catalyzing moment that turned every other Shirou into Archer
There isn't a single defining moment per se, and he doesn't go full archer in Fate either. Archer stems either from a bad end or some version we never see.
Kevin Edwards
Way to miss the entirety of Rin's character. It's spelled out 500 times in the VN that she puts on a front of cold mage. Even fucking Fate/Zero spells out Rin's good nature when she goes off to save a class mate.
Brody Carter
I don't care what anyone says, Sakura was best girl the moment the VN started. Any girl who makes breakfast for you and wakes you up like that should be best girl by default. Saber's best mom and Rin for some reason is the best bro.
Jaxson Thomas
>literal non character and plot device
>best girl
Kek
Lincoln Cox
"Enchanted sleep" could well mean "Enchanted to unconsciously jackhammer the closest female" for all the details we have. Merlin's fault though.
Jaxon Diaz
>She sucked ass at killing, so her motive doesn't count
Henry Morgan
>we will never get an Archer route
Xavier Jackson
Morgana hated Artoria and only wanted her seed to make Mordred. She basically rohypnol'd Artoria with magic and nothing else
Christian Edwards
She never intended to kill him, retard.
Christopher Ross
>wanna be the lackey for some dumb slut
Blake Perez
Could Nightingale have saved Kariya?
Oliver Bailey
Saw the part 2 movie today.
Sakura had a hard life anons ;-;
Medusa is bae though
David Miller
I know I'm 202 posts late, but hey.
Whore.
Hunter Bell
Yes, by killing him
Nathan Anderson
Saber>Pre HF Sakura=Rin>HF Sakura
Taiga and Ilya are objective best girls but not for shirou sexually
Kayden Nguyen
So what you're saying is we need a doujin of Morgana roofieing Arturia, and when she goes to collect the semen Arturia starts sleepwalking and rapes Morgana?
Connor Moore
it's the most kino for sure
Jaxson Adams
You need help
Andrew Martinez
Better question: could Nightingale manage to remove the crest worm?
Evan Howard
RIN GF WHEN FUCKKKKKKK
Charles Butler
I'm talking about the machine gun scene where she stops fucking around and just goes for the kill rather than disable/mindfuck.
Or are we just going to... pretend that never happened?
Jose Rogers
Help to draw the doujin? Yes. Will you help me?
Nolan Ross
Again, yes. Nightingale can treat anything and doesnt care if the threatment kills the patient.
Ian Gomez
Sakura is the best. Just the best.
I never wanted to breed with anyone more than I want to with Sakura. That perfect smile. Those dark violet eyes. The curves of her tight, feminine figure. It honestly fucking hurts knowing that I'll never mate with her, pass my genes through her, and have her birth a set of perfect offspring. I'd do fucking ANYTHING for the chance to get Sakura pregnant. A N Y T H I N G. And the fact that I can't is quite honestly too much to fucking bear. Why would Nasu create something so perfect? To fucking tantalize us? Fucking laugh in our faces?! Honestly guys, I just fucking can't anymore. Fuck.
God I want a Sakura wife.
Justin Rodriguez
She's a good girl, so maybe. Would've been funny to see her fight Gil.
Carson Lopez
She never goes for the kill, you fucking retard. She shoots a lot off out of frustration but never intends to kill him
He is the person that she spent her mega jewel that contained A rank magic. She would never intend to kill him.
Go be a retart some place else.
Owen Thompson
Good thing Shirou is not a pedophile
Julian James
>Never the girl (even in her own route)
>Never drew a dime
>Never had a good scene before HF and even then was carried by vastly superior characters
>Never cut a memorable speech
>Never put anyone over
>Never had the balls to step out her depression even when Shirou threw his life at her
>Main evented the lowest drawing route of the game
>Main evented the lowest drawing segment of Carnival Phantasm
>Tanked the storyline of HF so much that Ilya’s involvement gets overlooked
>Was barely ever in the main girl picture because she was never a big enough deal
>Only the 3rd best member the main heroines
>Only the 4th best member of the Matou household
>Only the 8th best member of the Sakura clone group
>Her main scene was utterly BTFO by Ilya and achieved nothing notable except inflicting dead puppet Shirou on us
>Her H-scenes were cringeworthy
>Her Medusa cosplay was cringeworthy
>Unironically calls herself """"""""Dark Sakura""""""""
>Shit taste in clothing
>Shit hairline
>Has her grandfather’s worms in her vagina
>Failed at her main route so badly that the writers have been desperately trying to make her look good and failing for well over a decade
>Only significant achievement was accidently being involved decently in Prisma Ilya
>Is the Type Moon equivalent of that one insufferably mediocre white knight material character whose sole professional """""""achievement"""""" is baiting the same shitty fans for 15 years
>Drew so poorly in her 2004 route that Ilya of all people had to take the route off her
>spent the latter part of her route burying superior characters
>The biggest impact she had on the business was sitting around in the back and telling one of her no-draw clones to job to someone in Fate/Extra who could actually draw dime.
Alexander Hall
>A single shot is stated to be as effective as a pistol bullet, but not quite lethal
>Fires a billion of them after getting mad
Suuuuuuuuuuuuure.
Gabriel Howard
based
Luke Fisher
Read the VN retard
Matthew Cox
Actually based.
Charles Walker
Never has that Undertaker copypasta worked so well for a character than this.
John Cooper
I want to draw dimes on Sakura's stomach with my tongue
Eli Sanders
Why did Kariya get shit on so fucking hard? I knew that things would not turn out well for Sakura but goddamn they went extra mile in causing him suffering. At least Lancelot was actually powerful and not a jobber like every other zerker that isn't him and Heracles
Jace Turner
They're curse bullets, dongus. Rin is in total control of if they'll kill or not. And we know for a fucking narrative fact from the bad ends that the worst she will do to Shirou in that situation is beat him up to wipe his memory. You are plain and simply wrong about this.
Aiden Clark
The VN even emphasizes this with hilarious machine gun sounds, which were so funny, it was used for the mecha-shirou joke scene.
Ian Young
Remember to dodge the worms. You dont want tonge paracites
Lucas Bennett
>Illya
>not for sexual
She has the most porn of any Fate character at this point, and that's saying something. Sure you could say Prisma doesn't count, but people wanted to fug her long before that.
The CANNOT HAVE factor only amplified lust.
Noah Harris
>At least Lancelot was actually powerful and not a jobber
Too bad they accomplished this by making him the most poorly written, retardedly overwanked servant in the franchise's history. Even Gilgamesh's dumb hax powers make more sense than "Lancelot is the ONLY person to ever beat somebody up with a stick!"
Tyler Edwards
Doesn't Herc job quite a bit though?
Jaxon Gomez
They're going to go with the normal end at the end of the 3rd movie, aren't they?
Adrian Reed
Holy shit I can't tell if you're retarded or just pretending. She puts more into the curse to make it take effect immediately. She had 0 intentions to kill him just to weaken him enough to mind wipe him.
Isaiah Thomas
He jobs in the technical term, in that he loses to hype up other opponents, but he usually still gets treated kindly by the narrative instead of taking a dump on him like, say, your Vegetas or your Kuwabaras
Gabriel Phillips
Read you retarded secondary.
Rin has canonically the lowest kill count on Shirou out of the entire man cast in the VN. She has never killed or attempted to kill him out of anger.
She has euthanized him when he gets turned into something horrific in some of Ilya and Medea's bad ends. Thats it
Saber as one kill on him that was intentional, even just for a split second
Sakura and Ilya have loads of kills between them
Jacob Watson
I would lick the worms as a display of erotic affection if it meant I could have Sakura as my eternal wife and lover.
Jason Hall
Do that and show Sparks Liner High and you actually have a good route.
Brayden Gonzalez
I think it does i watched the fate zero BD but better check torrent BD rips rather then using my fragrance of a memory
Jayden Rogers
Pretty disgusting, but good for you champ.
Nicholas Flores
So we've established that she sucks at killing even when she TRIES as stated in Wow, what a saint. So all you're establishing is that Rin sucks, not that she isn't a bitch.
Colton Ortiz
>as stated in a post that has been repeatedly BTFO
Nice try, retard
Caleb Russell
Does Sakura still have worms inside her? Like if I stick my penis inside her it won't get bitten off by a worm?
Nicholas Morgan
I just thought you should know, friend.
Xavier Cooper
I know all about the worms, matey.
Kevin Anderson
Yes and possibly. Those worms have teeth
John Bailey
Post-HF she does not. She's just a horrifying demigod made of Stuff That Could Be.
Cameron Flores
I'm glad they don't look like literal penises with teeth anymore though.
Ryder Wilson
You KNOW they're going to go for the true end even if the normal end is better.
Carson Torres
Maybe Urobuchi wanted someone to suffer even more than Kiritsugu.
At least he gets a happy ending in the FGO event. Iskandar burns down Zouken's worms, chops off his arm with the command seals, which gets rid of the worms, and he and Sakura run away together.
Nicholas Campbell
You mean the one where you say she wasn't trying to kill Shirou even though
1. It's established fact that a single shot from her fingergun is almost fatal
and
2. She just goes nuts with it, even spraying an entire room with it
And you're accusing others of having retarded headcanon. Holy shit, man.
Blake Price
They're gonna go for True End but find some way to incorporate Sparks Liner HYPEr in to it because not animating that would be a crime against humanity.
Kayden Lewis
Remember Sakura's uncle, literally the only person to care enough about her to try to get her out of her situation?
Remember how he ate a powerworm that was later revealed to be the one that took Sakura's virginity?
Cause that was fucked up.
Owen Lewis
What is established is that a Gandr does not cause any physical wound and is a curse. A curse of varying strengths that Rin controls with ease.
She had no intention of ever killing him.
You are a retard
Kevin Gutierrez
lol
Jeremiah Wood
>even if the normal end is better.
Nah. To be totally frank I think people that like Normal over True are just being edgy kids who think a story can only be "mature" if it doesn't have a happy ending. The whole plot of Fate is about Shirou freeing himself from the obligations he's trapped himself beneath. Him dying to fulfill those obligations doesn't fit the theme the story is trying to convey.
Michael Rodriguez
So Zouken was just some crazy waifufag?
Nathan Phillips
I'm not a fan of my protagonist becoming a sex doll.
Lincoln Young
Is this a worms armageddon thread?
Jayden Ramirez
I try not to think to hard about anything Urobochi does. It's for the best, really.
Isaac Reed
Remember when his dumb bitch sister said that he never cared about anyone and became a mage for himself when literally everything she knows or has seen him do points to him being completely selfless?
Charles Morgan
>Him dying to fulfill those obligations doesn't fit the theme the story is trying to convey.
Heaven's Feel is all about him giving up on his ideal and giving everything for one person to the point where it consumes him. Him not dying feels like a copout, and him retaining any function at all after everything is said and done feels like a major copout. I think there's a reason that you get the good end before the normal end
Chase Edwards
Jacob Moore
Remember that Kariya didnt really give a shit about Sakura and just saw saving her as the best way to win over Aoi and get the life he wished he had
Isaiah Gomez
One thing you're forgetting though is that HF stresses not just Shirou and Sakura's relationship, but his and Illya's. While it may be the conclusion of Shirou's thematic journey to die for his love, it's the conclusion of Illya's to give her own life for her brother; this gives the side bonus of finally displaying some of the Third Magic that's been alluded to yet considered unreachable throughout the VN.
David Jackson
fuck you
Andrew Martinez
That's wrong though.
Sure he wanted Aoi, but at first his priority was saving Sakura above all else.
Only after the worms fucked over his mind did he become obsessed solely with killing Tokiomi and getting Aoi.
Sebastian Edwards
Zouken is worms right?
I swear I remember reading that it was basically him raping Sakura all these years.
Xavier Campbell
Both are true.
Luke Myers
Kariya did nothing wrong.
Gabriel Miller
Sakura was his initial goal but his reasons for getting Sakura back to impress Aoi were laid bare in the end
Austin Sanders
>worms
>When the host is a male, they consume their bone marrow and part of the brain after shattering his spine, making him crippled in the process. When it is a female, they absorb the mental energy created after sexual stimulation is made through the nervous system. Usually don't consume the flesh of women, but the uterus is their favorite meals. Will eat the placenta after giving its victim sexual pleasure strong enough to fry the nerves of the brain.
I despise the fate universe
Parker Adams
>tfw no cute imouto to choose over the world
Luis Gomez
>Bawww why cant my Occult be warm and friendly
Matthew James
His brain deteriorated after the worms started eating him, which led to him making bad decisions and pretty much going nuts--but the reason he got into the mess in the first place was Sakura.
Adrian Scott
Who is this spunk monk?
Noah Taylor
Reminder that Tokiomi knew.
studio-shaft.fr
google translate mistakes aside here it is
TMF: Did Tokiomi know what Sakura was going through after she was adopted by the MAT?
U: What is important to Tokiomi is not filiation but the magical progression in his family. So he is conscious of having literally thrown his daughter away. One can imagine that Tokiomi thinks that through his beloved daughter he will come to have superior thaumaturgical powers.
[Out of interview]
Tokiomi knew what Sakura was going to undergo but for him, it would allow him to become a real mage. As long as it increases the thaumaturgical potential of his family, he had no problem with the Sakura treatments in MATŌ. However, if he had known the fate of Sakura, being a matrix for Zōken, he would have refused. He also imagined that if things went too far, Sakura could of itself stop Zōken. Unconsciously, even if he had never said it, the fight between Sakura and Rin at the end of Heaven's Feel was for him the best thing that could happen to the TŌSAKA.
Aoi, on the other hand, knew nothing.
[/ Out of interview]
Aiden Brown
Prisma Illya was a fucking mistake
Gabriel Torres
Why does Yea Forums have the best Fate threads? Is Yea Forums just shit now?
Jason Rodriguez
I rather have Rider than wormslut.
Jack Ward
The sex magic shit is actually taken from traditional Chinese (Taoist) mysticism
The kanji name for noble phantasms and general idea of them too, actually (宝具)
Gavin Martinez
Fuck Tokiomi. Fuck Tohasaka. And Fuck Zouken.
Nathan Diaz
It's just gross yo
Brother's trying to get his dick wet without no creepy ass worms biting it off
Andrew Murphy
Reminder that neither Illya nor Iri (and to an extent shinji even) had the shadow manifest despite being the cursed grail vessel
The only reason it happened with Sakura is because she is attuned with Angra
Zachary Ortiz
how did gil die in sakura's dream?
Ethan Campbell
Best girl, don't lie you know it's true.
Evan Bennett
Built to take Mordred's futa cock.
Owen Perez
She's boring. I like her son better.
Angel Long
It's honestly sickening that there are those that would take Sakura as a romantic prospect. Sure, I feel bad for her, but not enough to discard any sense and sensibility.
Gabriel Cook
>It was even spelled out in UBW. For Rin.
Was it? I don't remember.
Michael Sanders
Needs a dick
Jason Johnson
Sakura is great for pump and dump, not for long-term marriage.
Her uterus is fucked up by worms and Shinji and thus cannot bear children.
Hunter Wood
I hate it!
Hunter Garcia
Why do people like fate sluts so much when they're all confirmed non-virgins
Hudson Bell
If, hypothetically, you were Mr. Ripped Mage Boy Who Thinks Alarms Are Degenerate, you could easily find cute girls that would let you take their first time because you're just so strong and so gentle and so relatable or whatever. I feel like Sakura might get obsessive and stabby after a pump and dump, even without magic.
Ian Bailey
I would burn my copy of Merlin if he wasn't so broken right now.
Joshua King
Fags
Robert Roberts
Its been known since 2005, mate. She has been the best girl for nearly a decade and a half.
David Bennett
So did you burn your copies of that shitty shrine maiden manga when a certain someone was revealed to have had a boyfriend before?
Leo Harris
>Yes, this is the Rin that used a gem storing 10 YEARS worth of Prana that could have unleashed a spell with the power from the age of gods with no cast time in order to save someone who she barely knew who died because of the HGW she found herself in.
>And the "bad ending" you refer to is Rin literally sparing Shirou from the rest of the war by mind wiping him. And any other bad end involving her, she mercy kills Shirou as he'd gotten fucked over badly by people like Medea or Ilya
Before falling for him, she actually does it for Sakura's sake. If it were anyone else, she would have left them for dead.
Blake Watson
Why is she attuned with Angra? Is it because she suffered in a similar manner?
Jackson Gomez
She is physically attractive but that alone is not enough to overcome her being the living manifestation of Pink Floyd's Waiting For the Worms.
Gavin Scott
She does it for her sake as well. She had a long standing crush on him ever since she saw him trying to jump the high bar.
She was never going to act on it but he was probably the only person in the school who she liked and respected before the events of the game happen
Aaron Cruz
>this meme again
Hunter Sanchez
After the 4th war, Zouken gathered the pieces of the grail and put them into Sakura using worms.
Bentley Davis
>physically attractive
Her body is standardly curvey which is ok but nothing special however her face is plain as fuck and her dead fish eyes with no pupils are creepy.
Luis Phillips
Kannagi?
I never waifu'd any of the characters because I'm not retarded, so no
Elijah Kelly
It's not just that manga that's had a reveal of a main girl actually being revealed to have dated someone else, but it's one of the more recent that I remember. Granted I think that was still over half a decade ago though.
Jacob Thompson
Sakura is a precious girl how dare you.
Dylan Ward
I just wonder which ending they're gonna do? The normal ending is sad as fuck and would be extremely unpopular with the audience, but the true ending is such a huge asspull in every aspect (ESPECIALLY pic related) that it would go completely against the darker tone of the rest of the trilogy.
Bentley Reyes
Would Sakura be ok if I pulled out?
Juan Clark
>mind of steel
Just watch Hunter x Hunter its better for you.
Landon Murphy
I came jusr thinking of the third movie.
Jacob Gray
Who has the most tragic story in Fate?
Blake Martin
the fanbase
Austin Sullivan
I want to take turns fucking them both for hours and hours. Just switching back and forth so that the other one can rest while they lay and watch me ravage her son/father. I want to fall asleep with each underneath my arms.
Fuck I love kuuderes and bokukos
Hunter Peterson
I think it's autistic to burn a book over a girl like that
But it's even more autistic to waifu a slut
Sebastian Ortiz
Based.
Noah Morgan
Kiritsugu or Kariya.
Unless I'm forgetting someone.
Benjamin Bailey
Nathaniel Scott
I fucking love Sakura, bros. Anyone else watched her movie?
Leo Butler
Romani has it pretty rough to be honest.
Nathaniel Howard
Ufotable made this scene look 10x better
Joseph Peterson
ITT
seething shitendokeks
Thomas Scott
Eli Diaz
Of course. It was amazing. I only wish Illya got more attention.
Julian Reed
This one and I like playing FGO too
crunchyroll.com
Austin Gomez
>reading Fate/ Stay Night in original order, mirror moon TL
>HF route has heroine servant with lowest stats
>not a knight class so expected to be fodder
>beat the shit out of everyone
>utilize all types of fighting styles from copying caster, avoiding unwinnable fights like assassin, going head to head like the three knight classes
>bellerophon!
>beat Saber Alter, who is even more powerful than Rin's Saber
Man HF is the best. That's right user. You don't get to appreciate Rider until you play her route. And you can retroactively understand Shinji in Fate and UBW, and the what if scenario of Sakura being her master in those routes. And I think HF's oppressive atmosphere adds to the beauty of it all. You'd think there's no way a Rider servant can win in that route, with the Grail prowling and all, but she does.
Adrian Walker
Nobody else compares
>Kariya
>tragic
Easton Adams
>fate and Type-Moon as a whole have turned to trash
It's a terrible situation.
Nathaniel Cruz
it's not a dream she's hallucinating and wandering the streets killing people
Eli Russell
When i first played HA i thought it was autismo incarnate of emiya at first glance
Ethan Jones
This
I really want them to interact a bit more and reconcile so that we can get more delicious Artoria/Mordred threesome material
Josiah Adams
Despite how much I dislike saber from an appearance standpoint I still like the fate route more than the other routes despite Fate was just infodumping/world building route
Ian Jenkins
>Despite how much I dislike saber from an appearance standpoint
What a fag. She is gorgeous.
Owen Parker
that's a cute father/son dance
Matthew Moore
How exactly was Kariya not tragic?
Dying a painful death by worms, after failing at everything you set out to do, your sanity completely broken, with your death making the girl you were trying to save realize that there is no hope, and she should just accept her horrible life seems pretty tragic.
Samuel Baker
Yes they do. They even have better audio than the US release. Hopefully we'll get a standard edition of UWB soon.
Chase Rodriguez
>turned to trash
>turned to
Jose Edwards
Well that and Kariya had a high aptitude for magic unlike his brother that he could have compared to Tokiomi if he actually was trained as a proper Magus.
Andrew Cooper
Anyone else remember that doujin where kariya's body exploded and he got himself turned into worms and Sakura kissed one of them on the mouth? God I wish that were me
Thomas Myers
holy shit what
Ayden Walker
>has a happy life
>doesn't just use Lancelot to wreck Zouken and save Sakura just because he wanted to fuck Tokiomi up due to his pride being hurt
>kills the mother of the girl he tried to save with his bare hands
>is an absolute loser in general and most of it is his fault
>tragic
>more tragic than redman or Angra
>even in the same tier of tragic as Kerry
Gabriel Reed
Why would you want to be Kariya?
Justin Reyes
Grayson Lewis
too bad HGW don't give out participation trophies
Josiah Lee
>Cuck couldn't accept he was a cuck
>dies
All is right in the world.
I need to see a virgin Kariya chad Tokiomi edit, if it exists.
David Stewart
Kariya is actually a selfish loser who thought he could swoop in, kill Tokiomi, save Sakura, and get his old girlfriend back. His apparent altruism at the beginning of the series is revealed as such as time goes on, and culminates in his final death-scene fever dream showing his delusion. Saving Sakura was a vehicle to his own happiness and a path to get back together with her mother since it meant killing Tokiomi, it was never actually for her sake.
Christian Kelly
Could Kerry have just wished for Iri to be revived normally without anyone else dying after he saw what his desire for peace would bring?
Blake Nelson
Worth it
Carter Turner
Actually knowing that all routes are kinda canon but the real canon route is FGO, where the MC has to purge all the timelines with low human order value to save the world
Aaron Garcia
>doesn't just use Lancelot to wreck Zouken and save Sakura just because he wanted to fuck Tokiomi up due to his pride being hurt
>kills the mother of the girl he tried to save with his bare hands
It's not that easy to kill Zouken. Also, Zouken has worms inside him and Sakura, they'd be fucked if he tried anything.
Also, he didn't kill her. She did get brain damage though.
Hunter Perry
>I feel like Sakura might get obsessive and stabby after a pump and dump
She quit and bowed out without a problem in Fate and in UBW
Henry Adams
Worm slut
Jose Edwards
sony shit all ages no sex allowed fate came first so you have zero rights to bitch
Landon Morris
Fucking delete this you quadruple nigger
Zachary Cox
Name one thing Kerry did wrong
Bentley Sullivan
Yes. A different variety of trash which I can't appreciate as much.
Carson Gutierrez
Don't delete this you based madman.
William Rodriguez
Aaron Lopez
Yes I do you faggot.
Jacob Murphy
Jesus Fucking Christ.
Christopher Sanchez
Asher Roberts
Jason Cruz
Jaxson Scott
Saber's ass.
Liam Peterson
He had good intentions at first, just like Zouken, but the worm torture made him lose his reason. It's supposed to be that kind of George Lucas poetry.
Thomas Ross
Thanks for the fap bro. *Unzips dick*
John Hall
My King has a beautiful ass.
James Wright
is this from the fucking Zero manga?
Liam Lopez
He only started getting the delusions of getting Aoi after the worms fucked over his mind. At first he only really cared about saving Sakura.
Not saying he's without flaws, but compared to everyone else, he's nowhere near as bad.
Elijah Phillips
What happens when you reach the Root?
James Parker
It's no wonder that everyone, both men and women, want to fuck her in the VN.
Adam Robinson
Bentley Gonzalez
You just get a magic power.
Nathaniel Barnes
you gag a bit until you're more educated
Isaac Gutierrez
Act like Batman.
>if I save these guys those other guys die
The dilemma tore him apart.
He also acted wrong towards Saber when he tried to imprint his beliefs on a peerless hero. None of the heroic spirits ever bend over and change, not even Lancer who always dies, unless they get corrupted by the grail, then they change.
He really didn't seem to have appreciated all the gifts the Einzbern head gave to him. He just let it all burn until the fire from the grail burnt him and set him on a death clock.
Xavier Gomez
Marisbury was almost got to the Root, but he noped the fucked out and actually just wanted to fund Chaldea
Nicholas Foster
he didn't give Saber Avalon and let her curbstomp the HGW in a single night
Gabriel Edwards
I think she's still canonically suffering in hell eternally.
Gib Olga Marie pseudo-servant pls
Lucas Rogers
I thought the root absorbed mages now out of self defense if they ever actually reached it
Brayden Ross
Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.
Andrew Roberts
That she does
Jaxon Richardson
No, she's dumb. And pantyhose are disgusting
Brayden Ramirez
And she's pretty stronk, too.
Jack Cox
Don't forget Rider vs Saber Alter.
Nathaniel Howard
Yep, they went full explicit knowing it is legal to put it in seinen manga.
Logan Robinson
>Hey, you know that guy who stabbed you even though you weren't involved in this magical war?
Did Kotomine want Lancer to kill Shirou on purpose?
Xavier White
You gain the 5 original magics. Not all of them are revealed afaik, but they're all pretty broken. Heaven's Feel is one of them (materializing souls aka the power of the Holy Grail). Another one creates Ether Lumps which are manifested nothingness meaning you'd rip holes into reality.
Chase Hernandez
Fuck this edgy shit.
Adrian Perez
Retard
Nathaniel Brown
he was just a sadboi all along
Michael Mitchell
Well wasn't it more him noticing his effect on Sakura then he played it up to get her feelings revving? Saying shit like Rin was gonna kill/take him
Ryder Bell
Rin is confirmed to be Nasu's favorite
>Nasu: I will say that Rin was my favourite character when I was writing the story. Rin is like Aoko in so many aspects that it felt good to write Rin's story. Of course, Rider showed up shortly after that and everything went to hell. With regard to Saber, writing her story was always nerve-wracking because I knew she was really important to Takeuchi. I had a similar experience writing Hisui in "Tsukihime". Whenever an artist gets attached to a specific character, it's really stressful for me to write that character's portion of the overall story.
>Takeuchi: I think Rin is a character who is all about potential. Maybe that's why I'm only truly appreciating her now. Saber felt so complete right from the start, and the poetic beauty of her pairing with Shirou only added to the perfection. In Rin's case, however, a lot of events and situations like that whole London deal kept bringing out new sides of her that we hadn't previously seen. She makes you think about what "potential" really means, in a variety of ways. For example, if we were to do a spin-off story for Saber that took place in the Knights of the Round Table era, we still wouldn't be able to disband or do without the pairing of Saber and Shirou. That combination is just so complete that it's hard to adapt it to totally different situations. Rin, on the other hand, is more of a free agent because her relationship with Shirou doesn't define her in any way. Of course we have the Archer/Rin pairing, but a Lancer/Rin pairing would work out just as well and be just as good in its own way. We could even set up a story where Rin and Luvia are fighting over Shirou. In this way, I feel like Rin has earned her place as a face of the "Fate" series right alongside Saber.
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Jace Cox
explain
Matthew Martin
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Jace Adams
Somewhat famous writer wrote a four-book doujin novel series for F/SN and it's better than F/SN
Isaac Cox
>that thread
I mean Apocrypha shows there can just be parallel universes. I think one of the magics is literally creating parallel universes.
Archer Emiya's whole existence was from a parallel universe.
Hudson Hill
>Somewhat famous writer wrote a four-book doujin novel series for F/SN and it's better than F/SN
What is it about?
Andrew Morgan
wait, they were planing a rider route, I could understand Illya but how would Rider gain an interest in riding Shirou
Henry Adams
>she was really important to Takeuchi
Takeuchi-sama is so based.
>Rin has earned her place as a face of the "Fate" series right alongside Saber.
Sorry but she'll never be on Saber's level. Rin is great but Saber Arturia is ridiculously popular. The only reason the three heroines are right now inverted is the lack of Saber's presence in the new HF movies.
Christopher Roberts
At least it's implied he didn't know it'd be deliberatly cruel because Zouken is an abomination
also no one saw Shinji coming, and a "proper" mage could easily justify killing him
Hudson Turner
Taiga is best girl, that's all I wanted to say.
Ryder Gomez
based
Levi Bailey
Starts like HF except Caster survives and becomes Shirou's magic teacher and they save everyone together. She summons her dragon and Shirou does Unlimited Lost Works on Kirei even though this was written in 2007.
Aaron Robinson
Sakura is up there, Kariya too even if he did fall off the deep end. Shirou had one bad BAD day that fucked him for life but overall his brokeness was mostly okay
Nolan Taylor
>Starts like HF except Caster survives and becomes Shirou's magic teacher and they save everyone together. She summons her dragon and Shirou does Unlimited Lost Works on Kirei even though this was written in 2007.
What about the other Servants?
Chase Williams
The normal ending is the only scene that made me feel sad for Sakura so I wish we get that, but I'm sure we will get the "true" ending
Asher Cook
Correct!
Samuel Rogers
well in HF, Rider basically becomes Shirou's servant by the end of the route
they could have just done the same thing much earlier and force them to bond more
the issue is that it would clash with the plot points of HF since it would require Sakura to be completely out of the picture for the route to make any sense
Jackson Morris
nah after all seiba is such a high tier waifu that other girls start lusting after her, just give it a month or two and seiba could make a harem out of the entire female cast
Jacob Brooks
I'm thinking they're going to try and give us a fake out by starting with the normal ending first, then switch to the true right at the moment they think people would be losing their shit the most
Carson Kelly
It's mad living in a world where a lot of Fate fans don't even know who Kirei is, really. The main chunk of his character is in HF and the Zero LNs, which not many people have read.
Christian Lee
>Zouken was somehow able to hide the fact that he was some kind of centuries-old worm guy
>Kotomine was somehow able to hide that he still had a servant from the previous war and had literally all near-dead survivors from that one fire in his basement being harvested for their energy for years
>Somehow, Sakura's dad couldn't just hide the fact that his daughter was super powerful despite the high likelihood that any report on something like this to higher-ups would have to go through him
i don't understand
are wizards just selectively retarded
Chase Mitchell
Luke Gray
It truly is a shame. Bazett suffers from the same fate, too.
Grayson Green
>they could have just done the same thing much earlier and force them to bond more
What about adding more Rider scenes to Saber's route?
Xavier Diaz
Zouken just stayed his house raping shit with worms. Even if people did know they wouldn't give a shit since he's not like a Dead Apostle who require scores of bodies all he needs is a one person every so often. It's really a non issue
Owen Sanchez
Thank you so much for the reply.
I still have my doubt, no store specifies this, and my moonrunes are very week to try to google it.
Guess I'll get it. Loved FZero.
Gabriel Hughes
Wut? I don't remember Tokiomi trying to hide anything, just wanting Sakura to not waste her potential.
Cooper Wilson
Rin pleases old men for money
Noah Harris
>pantyhose are disgusting
Julian Moore
Amazing. Caster is severely under utilized and has a lot of character development potential, precisely because she can teach. Her playstyle actually matches Shirou's because he's not a proper mage.
Levi Parker
>tfw used to hate Rin irrationally because I was retarded and thought she was a typical tsundere back when I was younger
>Start to love her now
Well shit
Ayden Sanders
>Caster is severely under utilized
Even in UBW?
Gabriel Lopez
At the end of the day, the King of Britain truly was just a girl.
Evan Anderson
that's possible
more interactions like after meeting with Shinji
getting rid of Shinji is easy, he can be eliminated in a million ways
the tricky part is getting rid of him, Saber, and Sakura all within the same timeframe so as to force the new contract
Julian Cruz
Probably could've fit it in if the entire VN wasn't so bloated with meaningless shit.
Wyatt Cox
>liking the autistic rape incest magical futa baby over best girl
get better tastes
Henry Evans
So why did Sakura get 3 movies?
Saber only had the 2006 anime that jumped the shark midway and has dated animations.
Rin got a 2010 UBW movie that was also poorly adapted and a 2014 UBW anime that is literally a UBW sequel with UBW elements thrown at it.
Are the two getting new movies eventually? I mean Saberfags didn't even get the Last Episode.
Henry Rodriguez
I had to do a ton of research before buying it too.
Joseph Adams
Especially there.
>defeated by jewels
HAXX! Rin cheated.
Parker Thompson
Because Sakura's the best.
Jayden Anderson
>So why did Sakura get 3 movies?
Heaven's Feel is too dark to be a TV series. That's why.
Owen Reed
I hope Jaguar Man gets more art with the Babylonia anime.
Jaxon Brown
Also you can't have 26 eps of cooking.
Matthew Hill
>Are the two getting new movies eventually? I mean Saberfags didn't even get the Last Episode.
What about an adaption of Saber's route, Garden of Avalon and Last Episode?
David King
How big is your Fate collection?
Dominic Lewis
I want Taiga to bully me over dinner and act concerned when she feels something is off!
Connor Cox
He might not have known who Shirou was, but he definitely ordered Lancer to kill him, since Lancer himself says so afterwards and also expresses disgust at the order.
Alexander Cruz
DELETE THIS
Nolan Powell
Oh user, let me suck you, no homo.
That's exactly what I was looking for, the specifications paper.
Definitely getting it next paycheck. Thanks again.
Jaxon Flores
Xavier Flores
ufotable 5-7 part ova fate route when?
Camden Campbell
A big girl.
Ian Myers
>pretender
gross
Caleb Roberts
Isaiah Wilson
Not very big. Fate, UWB, Zero on dvd. UWB movie, Zero, and first HF on bluray. Also Garden of Sinners on both and Tsukihime anime dvd.
Jayden Cruz
For you.
Justin Hernandez
Yeah I know. Motherfuckers never show that and you see then English sub listed right there.
Jeremiah Price
>Taiga will be in more TM anime than Shirou at that point
Year of the Taiga for sure
Tyler Jenkins
The Kara no Kyoukai, Fate/Zero, FSN UBW, and FSN HF BDs include English subtitles by Aniplex of America.
David Perry
how did you post a blank spoiler?
Matthew Hughes
do you have a link to this
Daniel Cox
Why the FUCK is Kara no Kyoukai so FUCKING expensive?
Gavin Ramirez
The standard edition is Japan only at the moment. Also almost if not all those are discontinued.
Cameron King
That image is very well done. It captures the very atmosphere of that room present in the VN.
It also has an air of early 2000s anime, if you ignore Shirou.
Carson Stewart
It was more of a "kill all witnesses" kind of order.
Jonathan Taylor
>Also almost if not all those are discontinued.
why?
Adam Jackson
Because Aniplex of America hates you. I thought their prices made that clear.
Hunter Lee
The English localization of Today's Menu for the Emiya Family. Coming March 13th! Please support the official release, so we'll see the full series!
>amazon.com
Dominic Morgan
I bought them from the guy at comic market
Jose Cruz
Nigga, Servants and mages generally kill witnesses on sight. The good guy Servants just try and do it mercifully.
Ethan Wood
I liked KnK, but not enough to buy it.
Still haven't watched UBW, neither movie or the series (from what I know, I should avoid the movie and watch only the series).
I liked both HF movies so far, Im definitely getting them before they go out of print, like several monogatari individual releases in US.
Fuck you US Aniplex, I couldnt get ROD BD Box quickly enough.
Ethan Sanchez
>Kindle only in Canada
>No paperback
What the FUCK
Gabriel Ward
Fate was never good
Parker White
I don't have one of this in my area, is their a way I can view it online
Juan Jenkins
I can't deny this.
Adam Barnes
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if /ourgirl/ doesn't get a ufotable quality anime adaptation, lads. She's been the most popular Fate girl since 2004 and she hasn't been the center of attention in any of the adaptations since 2006, while still retaining that title. I think they wouldn't feel the need to try and sell her character anymore due to how infinitely popular she still is.
I mean look at this . Would they honestly NEED another anime for her? She's already a cashcow.
Juan Butler
Wrong
Gavin Miller
I mean a version of her is focus in the upcoming fgo camelot anime.
Ayden Russell
that's hardly the same
Joseph Allen
Just ignore them, there probably a tokiomi fag or a clocktower fag
John Nguyen
Shinji is best boy
Jacob Martin
youtube.com
never ever
Blake Ward
Take what you can get.
Connor Thomas
gross
Charles Williams
Raked.
Noah Ross
I have barely touched FGO and could care less. Explain.
Is it that shitty theorized design of her looking like a fucking trashy bimbo? I think she's called Tituria. Yeah fuck that shit, as a die hard Saberfag I cannot stand that fucking design.
Carter Peterson
FHA adaptation right after ufo finishes HF
Jacob Martinez
t. Shinji
Jose Wood
With fully animated h-scenes. All of them.
Isaiah Davis
It's not necessary for Rider to literally become Shirou's servant, or even be totally on his side.
UBW is largely Archer route, though they're mostly enemies throughout.
If events surrounding Sakura forced her into a more passive role than HF, Rider could try to get Shirou's help in order to save her.
Maybe Shinji would still be around and Rider would be secretly collaborating with Shirou to save her real master.
Rider's backstory and understanding her monstrous nature would also play a role.
The serious Rider scenes in F/HA feel like they were developed from ideas for the original Rider route, so you might see something similar, but with Shirou being the one to convince Rider of why she became a servant.
Daniel Garcia
>that Saber h-scene
My dick was diamonds. I fucking love bathroom sex.
David Perry
SoL anime about Shirou and Sakura's married life (Featuring Rider) when?
Isaiah Morales
it is
long story short, bedivere doesn't return excalibur, saber doesn't die, rhongomyniad (her lance) is some sort of holy relic that possesses saber the more she uses it and she loses all of her humanity and becomes an uncaring god
bedivere and fgo crew stop her
Grayson Cooper
In case it wasn't obvious, Tituria is just a nickname, because Tits.
Joseph Cook
I fucking hate FGO...
Ayden Collins
It's great.
Christian Jenkins
They made My King look like a god damn Barbie doll. Fuck FGO and fuck secondaries.
Joshua Carter
it's okay, storywise
but it and london birthed the abomination that is Tituria and I'll never forgive them for that
Connor Ortiz
Women have tits user. That's what happens when she isn't stuck in the body of a 14 year old.
Alexander Clark
>Barbie doll
Titoria isn't Lion King
Daniel Diaz
>laughs in Merlin
Daniel Miller
Flat is justice.
Owen Wright
Gay.
Lincoln Mitchell
Please understand. People who don't like big tits should be sent to a concentration camp and be made to love big milkers.
Noah Gray
yes, and dumb sluts have giant tits while walking around in S&M gear. Tituria is a fucking garbage design for a beautiful character.
Elijah Hernandez
nah the grail-post angry manjew would have done that and then also killed everyone on earth too.
Christian Lewis
it's pandering shit
Blake Torres
Re-education?
Grayson Allen
as someone who loves big tits, I have a seething hatred of Tituria because what a slap in the face it is to Saberfans
Brody Young
>not starving Arturia of nutrition until she's 18 to prevent her from growing
Now you can't imagine bending her over looking for things to do it on, because she's big.
It is risky though. How does one even starve a Saberface.
Noah Gomez
Daily Reminder:
Archers who use bows aren't Archers
Sabers who don't shoot beams aren't Sabers
Lancers who don't die aren't Lancers
Kayden Hughes
>Titoria
>S&M gear
I think you're confusing her with Titoria Alter, Titoria usually keeps her armor on.
Logan Cox
Keep a Buster Gorilla on kitchen duty.
Oliver Fisher
Boob or Underboob?
Joseph Wright
based MADMAN
Gabriel Rivera
is the hf movie complete already?
Levi Jackson
Waiting for part 3.