JUST
JUST
Left - Designed by an armor designer because Monolith Soft couldn't find a character designer for Xenoblade 1
Right - Done by the character designer of Xenogears, Xenosaga 1, and Xenoblade X.
Xenoblade 2's artstyle but with Xenogears/Xenosaga/Xenoblade X's character designer would look god-tier.
I like his hair better in the first picture
very fluffy
Left > Right
>these down-syndrome samefags
>good in any way shape or form
I'm glad XBC turned out the way it did. It looked unique compared to these generic moeshit faces.
>right is supposed to be 18
yikes and Rex is supposed to be 15
Those dead animu eyes are just creepy..
>generic moeshit faces
Name ONE character designer in the vidya/anime industry with an artstyle similar to Tanaka's.
His faces are actually unique; When Shulk and Fiora got revealed for Xenoblade 2 the first thing that came to mind was Tanaka since his artstyle is almost synonymous with Xeno.
I'm probably as tall as rex and i'm 20
:
every character in XBC looked like a downy you drooling retard
Something about the faces of Tanaka's Shulk and Fiora just doesn't work for me. They look too young, and kind of goofy. The dead eyes don't help.
And it's weird how they used the XB1 style for flashback Klaus and Galea, but got Tanaka for Shulk and Fiora.
This kills the Tanakafag
not a fan of the tanaka faces, but yikes
cute
His art is shit
I like both.
I thought his lips were edited to be purple for a second..
It looks shit.
>belts under shorts
for what purpose
>Name ONE character designer in the vidya/anime industry with an artstyle similar to Tanaka's.
>
>this pasta again
How is Nomura's style even remotely similar?
Tanaka Shulk > XB1 Shulk >>>>> Smash "Shulk"
XB1 shulk's still good, but XB1's character models were designed by armor designers and monster designers, and all of the drawn in-game portraits for XB1 were outsourced to a Chinese company.
Nomura's style is quite distinctive.
Looks nothing like Tanaka's style.
>all this Tamaka dick sucking
All his shit looks the same. He's crap, and XB is better off for not having his shit baby faces.
>and all of the drawn in-game portraits for XB1 were outsourced to a Chinese company.
what company? I thought they just did them inhouse
It's one guy who defends his crap in every thread.
>these uguu~ faces
>good
xenoblade looks even worse than xenosaga 2 and that's saying a lot considering saga 2 looks hideous.
What's "uguu~" about it, exactly?
Yeah no, fucking neck yourself after gouging your shitty eyes out.
Why do they look like they have anime down-syndrome?
Back this post up.
the ugly art style was one of the things that always turned me off from playing gears/saga when I saw people recommending them.
I got over it eventually, but I will never understand why people suck Tanaka's dick so hard.
But it's XBC characters the ones who look like retards...
Why are people mad that Shulk and Fiora actually look like Xeno characters now?
Now all we need is Tanaka to draw Rex and Lora and the entire gang's here.
But I don't hate any of those games. Why don't you speak for yourself?
pleb
I bought Torna, can I get this stuff in the base game or am I fucked?
post the funny dance
>people
It's one guy.
Tanaka drew this for Xenoblade 1 too, came with an early edition of the game.
>phoneposter
opinion discarded
More same-face, great..
If you got Torna physically then there should be a code for the rest of the expansion, digital comes as part of the expansion pack. You should be good, user
>that sword proportion
embarrassing
How'd you buy it? If it's the standalone version, it should come with a code for all the main game DLC.
>people shitting on Tanaka
Yea Forums doesn't know manga art.
tanaka's art is good, there's just one or two shitposters desu
>wahh stop bullying my shitty down-syndrome uguu faces
XB1 remaster with tanaka's artstyle, adding the bionis shoulder into the story, and bringing mitsuda in to do more tracks, giving Zanza's disciples unique themes and a more fleshed out and less rushed second half when?
>everyone who dislikes Tanaka's art is a shitposter
Great argument.
>literally an entire thread shitting on him and just 2 people defending his crap art
might wanna learn to count
Hopefully never if it's going to be in that shitty babyface style.
>literally an entire thread shitting on him
it's just one guy
looks good on paper
looks terrible in-engine
Add in CHOCO too to send the secondaries into a seething rage because "eww hentai designer"
lmao fuck off retard
Tanaka doesn't need to be defended. One of the highest payed artist out there for a reason.
I bought both digitally, Xenoblade 2 and Torna, but I don't see anything different in the main game, also when I go to see the eshop it says the expansion pass is available to purchase instead of saying that I can download it.
That's the case with Xenosaga and Xenoblade X too
Tanaka's style looks great on paper, but not in the engine.
Keep in mind it's a completely separate person who makes the models.
I think you get the code in the email attached to your Nintendo Account.
Why would you buy the standalone digital version in the first place?
>moeshit
???
This 100%
It's unfortunate, but true.
Do Xenoblade fans really defend Xenoblade 1's artstyle?
Not even Xenosaga fans are delusional enough to defend Xenosaga 2 or 1.
>payed
I just check and I had an email, is this the whole thing?
>This will get you access to 15 Legendary Core Crystals, 3 Char-Grilled Grumbirds, 3 Crispy Blendshakes, and 3 Clicky-Clicks.
well i'm certainly not the only one here, so there is at least 2 i dont give a flying fuck about the shit taste itt i just like posting tanaka art
Wait nevermind there was a code with the expansion pass content, thanks!
>CHOCO
Xenoblade X almost looked like this
Dunno about defend, but it's at least unique to your run-of-the-mill anime faces like 2.
Honestly would've preferred this over all the duck faces.
That would have changed nothing since Xenoblade X's characters look the way they do because of the modelers, not the character designers.
ARES is so cool
are they remaking xenoblade or something?
>Not even Xenosaga fans are delusional enough to defend Xenosaga 2 or 1
There's someone ITT..
sure
No, Shulk and Fiora are special DLC Blades in 2, and they look like shit.
No, Shulk and Fiora were put into Xenoblade 2 in an update but they got Tanaka to redraw Shulk and Fiora in the Gears/Saga/Blade X style.
Because you're a downie yourself and need some form of association to make you feel less lonely.
I don't think anybody defends the models in Xenosaga, the designs are fine though.
Wow, must've taken some big think to come up with such a creative insult.
people are mad that shulk and fiora look xeno now.
Yes, people are mad that they look stupid now.
stupid is still an upgrade.
>xcx has top tier designs and shit modelers
>xc2 has shit tier designs and good modelers
not fucking fair
>xcx has top tier designs and shit modelers
Imagine what Tanaka and CHOCO could do with competent modelers.
I hope they get rid of the character designers for XB2 but keep the modelers and bring Tanaka and CHOCO back to main positions.
>Tanaka doing character designs
>CHOCO doing armor designs
>the uncredited bloke who did the Artifices on mecha designs
Peak generic anime artstyle
I'd rather have CHOCO and that's it. Characters were excellent in Xnosaga III, mechs were stellar as well.
It's distinctly Tanaka's style for almost 3 decades now.
Generic anime style would be Xenoblade 2's main cast.
That's just objectively false man, he's one of the few anime artists who actually gives his characters defined noses with actual nasal bridges and nostrils
thats not saitom though
And yet it's the best looking and most expressive one. If it's "generic" as you said it, it's generic for a reason. Why settle for shit looking shit just to be different is beyond me.
>>generic anime
>>actually drawn inner ear cartilage and noses
Bro come on generic moeblobs have a single dot for the nose and circle heads
>xenoblade 2 is the first 3D Xeno that actually got art and models right
>but the character designs look like absolute ass
I hope Saitom doesn't touch Xeno ever again
Maybe in your family..
>ywn have a pint with Malos
feels bad man
Are those eyes supposed to look good or something?
Why do you care about fugly noses and nostrils? Are you a jew? They always look like shit in 3D anime style
Yes. They do.
They really don't.
I'm not saying it isn't the most expressive one. The reason why so much anime looks the way it does currently is literally because the current artstyle is extremely expressive and easy to convey emotions.
It's obvious that Xenoblade 2 aimed to be more emotional than previous Xeno games since Japanese fans complained that "the models in 1 and X couldn't convey emotions very well, and it was hard to take things seriously with mismatched armor or helmets blocking the faces." They went with the generic, but expressive style and gutted the armor system.
I don't know why they gutted the armor system when they could have just recycled Xenoblade X's cosmetic option.
Imagine still going on an autistic crusade against a video game over a year after release.
Poppi almost made me shake my faith in Emeralda for best Xeno girl desu
>big eyes means more expression
this is your brain on anime
Both are top tier, I can't condemn you
>big eyes means more expression
Actually, yes. Yes it does.
The more i hear about the other xeno games and how weeb they are, the more i realize this series isn't for me
shame because xenoblade 1 is god-tier
Shulk is a million times more memorable visually than any of the xenoblade 2 faggots
Throw in voiced H2H, fashion gear slots and fixed AI and I'm in
One thing I don't like is how characters look far too young.
Rex doesn't look 15 at all, and XB2 Shulk doesn't look remotely 18.
I doubt they gutted armor because of fanbase complaints, since like you said handling things like XBX did would totally solve that.
They already needed to outsource a ton to model all of the rare blades in the game, so I imagine they most likely just didn't have enough development time/staff to add armor and decided to skip it this time.
that had nothing to do with the post you're replying to
Stop watching so much anime, it's rotting your brain.
I have to admit his shit sweater that my grandma would knit and those hideous leg belts sure are memorable in how tasteless they are
Since this thread is arguing about character designs, I might as well post this.
shame xbc2 is 90% samefaces by pixiv porn artists though.
Flower man
t. downie
It's actually scientifically proven that it's easier to express emotions through larger eyes, it has nothing to do with anime. Why do you think most comics and cartoons have larger eyes? Why do you think what's commonly thought as cute (like various animals) have proportionately large eyes?
It's easier to determine a character's expression based on their facial features, hence why a lot of expressive mediums have exaggerated facial features (cartoons, anime, manga, comics, vidya), or in the case of live-action zoom in on character faces during emotional scenes.
Saito's art is so fucking hideous.
I actually like a decent amount his designs in XB2 but that character art is not pleasant to look at.
It's weird how Xenoblade 2 doesn't look TOO out of place compared to Xenogears or Xenosaga, but looks out of place compared to Xenoblade 1 or Xenoblade X.
Not defending it by any means.
>the original Xenoblade Chronicles is completely remade with the XB2 engine
>devs throw in some stuff from X and 2 to improve the combat system
>complete voice acting, even the NPCs
>additional content on par with Torna
Would you buy it?
Tell that to this guy, or Tezuka, or anybody working in animation. Not every cartoon or anime has big eyes, but most of them does for a reason. But surely a basement dweller anonymous knows better than the men that made animation what it is today.
>complete voice acting, even the NPCs
no, fuck that. give me my HOWS THINGS and nothing more
>Why do you think most comics and cartoons have larger eyes?
They don't. That's just anime because we attribute cuteness to large eyes. Has nothing to do with conveying actual emotion.
This.
fuck yeah id buy it
Why do you guys always want remakes, especially ones that are easily emulatable at 8K or whatever. Let them work on new games instead.
>>additional content on par with Torna
30 hour DLC about Klaus, Meyneth, the Saviorite Rebels
Also in the main game, without changing the story at all, explain certain plot elements better since Xenoblade 2 had to come along and explain them instead.
You're referring to cartoons specifically made for children. Not a good point.
>They don't.
Open up Yea Forums right now, take a look at the catalog and say that again with a straight face.
Anime has large eyes literally because of Western cartoons and comics in the first place.
I'm fine with XB1's art style.
Oh yeah, look at this horrible weebshit right here. Awful kawaii uguu garbage.
How do people who hate anime even find Xeno in the first place?
It really is.
smash and ecelebs
>xfag literally believes that anime invented big, cute eyes to help expressiveness
He should add himself to his cringe compilation.
Why don't you say it to my face, my number 1 fan?
>Anime has large eyes literally because of Western cartoons and comics in the first place.
This. Japan only copied what America made back then.
Smash
I actually liked X's character designs, it's just a shame they were poorly translated to the actual game.
user, that's literally a children's cartoon.
>inb4 the Simpsons
Only the content of the dialogue is "adult". The style of humor is still infantile. That's why it fits with a childish look.
>people calling someone who actually draws all of their faces with noses "generic"
what. generic is drawing a single line or a dot and having it stand in for a nose.
The best ones are the people who hate anime but adore Xenoblade 1 and unironically think and to mental gymnastics claiming it's somehow less anime than it's predecessors and successors.
I seriously don't think XC1 looks bad, I think it's rather charming
This looks good.
This looks shit.
But that's pretty generic. I can find this face everywhere in the world by the truckload. Can't be more generic than that, desu.
>Name ONE character designer in the vidya/anime industry with an artstyle similar to Tanaka's
Every single thing Tanaka does
>yfw
Go ahead. Post 10 faces that are similar if it's so generic.
shut up you shitskin slut
I like the man, but his Shulk does not transition into 3D well at all. At least it's not as bad as Smash Shulk.
Xenoblade Chronicles is so fucking overrated. Not bad, just overrated as fuck.
I wonder how it became so popular
because even with the 1st chronicles game no one knew about it and it had ''hidden gem'' status then it just erupted in popularity
I don't know what happened to make it explode
WHERE IS MY XENOGEARS REMAKE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
It's the stroundtrack. The soundtrack is absolutely stellar and easily the best part of an ok game.
good thing we're talking about anime artstyles and not A Complete List of Every Face In The Real World
>It looked unique
It looks like shit. Like they are fucking draining in vaseline
>I wonder how it became so popular
One of the most popular youtube let's players played Xenoblade 1 back in 2014 and pulled in millions of views quickly.
On top of that, Shulk got into Smash 4 in the same year and his personality and quotes resonated with people who just discovered him for the first time.
On top of that, Xenoblade X was being heavily advertised in America, putting Xenoblade on normalfags' maps.
On top of that, it was ported to the 3DS in 2015.
On top of that, Xenoblade 1 was already a highly rated game with cult classic status before hand.
A huge wave of exposure made Xenoblade 1 popular and attracted a wave of people who weren't familiar with Xeno overall and were confused with Xenoblade X and very confused over Xenoblade 2 since both were different than Xenoblade 1.
>OLD GOOD!!!
>NEW BAD!!!
>On top of that, Shulk got into Smash 4 in the same year and his personality and quotes resonated with people who just discovered him for the first time.
Shulk's "personality" in Smash 4 was barely anything like it was in the game, though. His VA sounded weird, too.
Ah
nice
thanks 4 the explanation
rearrange how combat works so that battling against high level enemies isn’t as hard of an instalose/sidequest exp too. Also PLEASE FIX MELIA’S AI I THOUGHT SHE SUCKED THE WHOLE GAME I HAD NO CLUE
2's is miles better.
It just got insanely popular because of Smash.
2's soundtrack is basically 1's with a higher budget and replacing Shimomura (who did the weakest tracks in the first) with Mitsuda.
Both are phenomenal soundtracks though.
Yeah, it's not as 10/10 MUST PLAY as people (and Metacritic) make it out to be. The combat especially in the first game is extremely repetitive. Anyone who claims the combat is better than 2's is a brainlet. 2 takes a while to start, but it's not after 20 hours like people claim.
Making Melias AI good would be admitting she’s a really poorly designed character though. Her auras are so pointless.
>One of the most popular youtube let's players played Xenoblade 1 back in 2014 and pulled in millions of views quickly.
Who?
he's probably talking about chuggaaconroy
His playlist for the game was updated 7 days ago too.
>XB1 was so boring even DSP couldn't finish it
ouch
>Jade face remembering who he is is in spite of wiped memories
>”You have to believe in urself Shulk”
>Villain conveniently offs himself so the party doesn’t have to
The only people who complain XB2 is too anime are people who just hate anime tiddies.
Hold the fuck up
Are people calling this "generic moe animu" style?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
It looks 1000 times better than XBC2's artstyle.
Lewd
Operation rainfall or whatever it was called.
It looks like the same generic anime babyface trash.
Imagine ruffling Melia's wings while she blows you in disgust.
i think xb2 is great but i honestly had no fucking clue what I was doing in combat until 20 hours in.
I hate over-the-too fanservice.
For example, I think Mythra's design is great, but Pyra looks retarded. Pneuma is okay, I guess.
I can't even remember her saying this since, like most reasonable people, I took her off the party the moment I got Dunban.
>too
top*
>he hates XC2
really makes you think
1 is run of the mill, without the variety the various artists brought to 2
TPBP
Who's stronger Shulk or Rex?
What are you talking qbout?
>the variety the various artists brought to 2
>mixing animu styles
huge mistake which just makes the game look inconsistent and jarring
?
chugga doesn't like XB2
but he does?
Gem Crafting is the most retarded shit I've ever come across.
I'VE GOT IT
Shulk is a Chad who kills gods.
Rex is a tiny dicked manlet that's retarded and his game is the worst.
>paid to shill game
>blanket shills it
Hmmm...........
xc2 looks like a huge clusterfuck and thats its biggest problem
I can't watch it. His voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
TO YOU
You are thinking about josh Jephson
>love XC1
>can't stand XC2 and dropped it halfway through
I think it was because it had so much micro-management with Blades. Every weapon had their own skill tree and relationships and it was just wack. Also, skill checks to move around the environment sucked.
Hopefully the next game is more like XC1 or XCX.
>variety the various artists
This isn't a good thing. All the characters that aren't Nomura's look like garbage.
Field skills are absolute cancer.
souless< soul
^
soul
He liked the game though. As a joke. Which is what it is.
kill yourself
It does at least give the lie to the 'generic sameface animu' claim.
And yeah it is at first jarring, but the more you play the game the less of an issue it is. If I can handle Kingdom Hearts, Smash Bros and the like, I can handle this.
I think a lot of people like XB1 because it didn't look like generic anime.
It would have been better if you could set up a “field party” from all your blades (including engaged ones) to use skills so that there was less micromanagement putting 2 commons in your party to climb a wall then immediately removing them.
>There are idiots that think Tanaka is "generic"
Physically it's Rex.
Power-wise it's Shulk.
There's a reason he hasn't done an LP of it.
I liked XB1 because it was a good game with a passable story.
Even if you did like the artstyle (which I did), the character models looked pretty fucking bad, so I doubt anyone was picking it up for that.
They already fixed her along with Shulk's AI on the New 3DS port so it's totally possible.
He is, get his dick out of your mouth.
looks like an evangelion rip off
>generic sameface animu
That's only applicable here
>All the characters that aren't Nomura's look like garbage.
Nah, it's a mixed bag. Aegaeon, Wulfric, Finch, Morag, for example are fine.
there's a good game buried under the bullshit but i cant blame you for feeling this way
He's busy with other LPs and only LP games he knows in and out and played through multiple times?
Depends, at full power Shulk is stronger than Rex, but by the end of both games, Rex definitely is more powerful than Shulk.
They all look shit. Especially Morag.
>but by the end of both games, Rex definitely is more powerful than Shulk
How? All Rex does at the end of 2 is beat a mech. That's fucking it.
so what artist would you have design xeno characters? pick by name.
It's been over a year.
Nomura
By the end of Xenoblade 1, Shulk is a normal Homs with no special powers since he sacrificed his godhood when specifically making a world without gods. He no longer has the Monado and none of the powers that came with it. By the end of Xenoblade 2, Rex is still the Driver of the Aegis(es) and potentially still the Master Driver.
fair enough, if you can keep him from going full belt autism he's pretty good
And? Xenoblade was 4 years old when he felt ready enough to LP it, and he still didn't LP X yet. You know his autism won't allow him to LP the series out of order, even if X is a spin-off.
Doesn't Rex also lose his driver abilities at the very end of 2?
No? Didn't he reawaken Mythra/Pyra?
No, since he manages to reawaken Pneuma's core and summon both Pyra and Mythra.
Nope. Even while Pyra and Mythra were in a core state, he was still Nia and Roc's driver at the very least.
Nope, there are definitely good ones in there. From the main cast I'd also add Poppi.
>By the end of Xenoblade 2, Rex is still the Driver of the Aegis(es) and potentially still the Master Driver.
not without the conduit he isn't.
I may be wrong but I think Rex is the strongest Xeno protagonist if we ignore super natural powers.
But when we add super natural powers he's one of the weakest.
The aegis 's power came from the conduit, which fucked off
>Xenoblade 1, his favorite game of all time
>Took him 3 years after it released to do a LP on it
Knowing Chugga he's probably putting together an ultimate autistic playthrough plan of XC2 before he goes through it.
Or he's still working on one for XCX. That would take a decade.
And Nia, Dromarch, Tora, Gramps, Zeke and Pandoria. Really, it's just Rex and to a lesser extent Pyra and Mythra's designs that are letdowns. Same with the English voice acting.
Elma and Lora exist.
do people actually like Xenoblade X artstyle? They look like creepy dolls. Just because it's unique doesn't make it good.
Zeke's design is a bit of a shitshow, but that works with his personality.
>Joseph gets to Leftheria
>Literally spends 10 minutes crying about the cloud wall and asking why it exists
He gets worked up over the dumbest shit, it's honestly annoying.
I love the art style, but I hate the way it was adapted into 3D.
Technically, neither are the main characters of their games.
>They look like creepy dolls.
That's the point. They technically all are, since they're all literally robots. The game even mentions the possibility that their real bodies, if they ever discover them again, might not even look like their robot bodies.
Owen Wilson is in Smash?!
It was pretty popular with Operation Rainfall, thats atleast how I got wind of it and even on launch it was pretty hard to come by since NoA fucked up and made it gamestop exclusive.
Game was critically acclaimed too, Don't really remember the last JRPG in that timeframe to score over a 90 on metacritic.
Smash bros definitely accelerated it's popularity though. X did pretty well too despite being on the Wii U, if that system wasn't such a colossal flop i'd bet it would of sold even more than 1.
He pretty much does. The conduit is what made the Aeigises god-like when it came to ether manipulation (like the powers the monado had), as well as being fed Blade information when they returned to their cores.
The original canon ending likely intended on pyra/mythra getting mind-wiped (or simply resurrecting as a normal blade). However, doing something like all heart-to-hearts and/or 100% completion was supposed to unlock the other ending where they indeed remember rex at the end.
>They look like creepy dolls
Because that's exactly what they are? The Mims ARE supposed to leave an hint of uncanny valley since they're human-ish approximations. Notice how every biological alien races (Celica, L, the Wrothians, etc.) look nowhere near potatofaced like the Mims
xeno without weird potato models doesn't feel right.
There's a difference between artstyle and model. The artstyle is fine, the way it was executed was not.
the designs are great they just arent implemented very well
Jesus that's hideous
the affinity tree in XB2 is easily the worst aspect.
>Rex and Pyra look and sound the absolute worst
>they're the main characters
ayy lmao
Even if he did (which all points toward he didn't), base-Rex would still be physically stronger than base-Shulk due to being a Salvager by trade instead of a scientist.
the character design looks normal though.
>Notice how every biological alien races (Celica, L, the Wrothians, etc.) look nowhere near potatofaced like the Mims
>Celica
I don't know what game you played, because she looked potato as fuck to me.
Why the fuck are those eyes spaced so far apart?
He's literally autistic, so it's no surprise. The town made him stupid, too.
>That
>Normal
user, I don't want to alarm you, but I think everyone you've grown up with, which defined your view of "normalcy", are actually robots and you've been living a Truman Show situation all your life.
There's autistic people that don't sperg out over minute fantastical details, like Chugga. Joseph must be a particularly severe case.
a lot about momo is supposed to be a parody of moe and most moe anime of the early-mid 00s (xenosaga's era) had really spaced out eye placement
What's so unusual about it? Looks like a normal Tanaka design to me.
I'd put them at equals. Rex is more of a physical guy thanks to his job while Shulk is a scientist nerd, but Rex still is a boy 2 or 3 years younger than Shulk. Both went through a journey that sharpened their skills the same.
I always wonder how it feels to go through such journeys, reach the end, and all is peaceful again. Where do you go from there? Would Frodo knows the answer to this?
Played 2 first, and found 1 to be absolutely boring in comparison. Everything is SO predictable too like Metal Face being Mumkhar, and Fiora not being dead. At least Shulk's English VA isn't dogshit like Rex's.
Momo's less of a parody of moe and moreso intentionally designed to have a lot of characteristics of moe. There's not really any parodying going on.
Xenoblade 1 has the worse story but it has far better writing than 2.
Xenoblade 1's plot twists were extremely predictable even for JRPG standards, but it was executed really well regardless.
Yeah but Rex is a fucking manlet.
Rex is 15 but looks 8.
Rex is 18 but looks 12.
see
>Played 2 first
Stopped reading.
Be honest, what game got you into the series?
Xenosaga I. Modded my PAL PS2 so I could play it. And learn english as well. I was 12-13 y/o back then.
Nomura is an excellent designer when working within limitations. But he's not especially similar to Tanaka
I emulated Xenogears them Xenoblade, then played XB2.
Xenoblade 1.
Xenoblade X
>inb4 smash secondary
Fuck you. Shulk wasn't even in that game and I never used Shulk in smash anyway.
>use 2d character designs for all the games except X
Why?
>and found 1 to be absolutely boring in comparison. Everything is SO predictable too like Metal Face being Mumkhar, and Fiora not being dead.
XB1 was meant to be a world design experiment first and foremost, and also to test the waters of what he could and couldn't do with Nintendo, so with most of the effort going into world design, quests, areas and locations, not as much effort went into the story since the team just came off from writing an ambitious as fuck failure (Xenosaga) and needed a break from telling crazy complex sci-fi narratives.
XB1 kept its story simple intentionally since it's easier to do a simple story justice.
XB2 wasn't as much of an experiment so a lot of the creative juices were allowed to flow more freely, the developers talked more about the story when hyping up XB2 than they did XB1.
Xenoblade 3D
I unironically think Xenosaga 1 looks better than XC2. A consistent art style is important, and Xenogears is the best looking of all the games.
XC2 is a mess and anyone who says otherwise is in denial. I haven't played Torna yet so I don't know if that fixes anything
If it was just Tanaka and Nomura doing designs XC2 would look good
No more blades and keep the party to 8.
The 3DS port of XB1 because of Smash
Ended up liking X more than any other game in the series even after I went back and beat Gears (good), Saga 1 (promising but can't be fucked following it up) and 2 (mediocre).
>Tanaka
He is shit and never coming back.
>Retard doesn't understand the difference between art style and design
Shit taste
>those hips
more
Witch XC is better?
1?
X?
2?
I'm glad I never got into Xenoblade.
2>1>X
1 is the best but I like 2 and X more.
From what I've seen from Chronicles 2 all the animations look off. Every time they open their mouths it looks like they're in pain.
X characters don't have official art.
Downloading XC X for PC.
Should I start with the first one? Or it doesn't matter?
Am I gonna like it ?
All Xeno games are great except XC2.
XC2 is the worst Xeno game
I fail to see what's wrong with the animation. The important cutscenes are pretty good.
doesn't really matter/idk
What's the optimal setup for Xenoblade on Dolphin?
Yes.
X, 1 and 2 are all sort of "different universe" cases. They're mostly self contained. Whether or not its fun will be subjective, but I believe you'll enjoy yourself.
The eating animation in that scene is dogshit, but the fights are all great.
Doesn't matter, X is a spin-off.
If you like open-world exploration, sidequest, RPGs and MMO combat you're gonna have a good time. If not, tough luck. Also read the manual.
He is shit posting. We all now if you want to see a Xenoblade game with terrible animation we have X.
Really depends on your PC. I go Direct at 1080p upscaling and 120% cpu over lock.
Ultra smooth 60fps
XBX had a couple of scenes with some great animation too.
It just depends on how much budget the cutscene happened to get.
I'm not shit posting. I'm just a dude who played Chronicles 3D because Smash hype and was put off by the art and animation of Chronicles 2 when I saw the first trailer.
2 has better animation than 1.
He showed off some notes for his XCX lp about an year ago
youtu.be
It does in some scenes, but not all.
The way they integrate the scenes with shittier animation and the scenes with better animation is awkward, and does more harm than good, IMO.
I preferred the way they handled it in XB1, where they didn't even try to hide when you were in a low-budget scene (since the way the subtitles were displayed was totally different) or transition naturally from one format to another.
They deliberately avoided doing a story heavy game for X because cutscenes are expensive and they had their plate full with open world + HD development. At least the budget went to better things.
>Tanaka's artstyle
Dear GOD no
The character designs in XC1 were iconic, the weebshit art would ruin it
this
They literally didn't have character designs, they were made up on the fly.
>defend
>XC1 artstyle
You must be chugging soi to have an opinion as cringe and bluepilled as that
of course they had character designs, you can see the characters on screen all the time
are there actually people who unironically think the potato children in xbc look better than the xbc2 characters or even xenosaga 3?
Implying that was a problem.
I've got a GTX 1060, and an ailing i5 4690k @4.0ghz
>random modelers at monolith did a better job than tanaka and saito
oh nonono
>try to play XB2
>characters won't shut the fuck up in battle
Tell me there's an option to shut this off that I'm missing. They keep shrieking the same quotes rapid fire, talking over each other.
When was the last time you walked in a college campus?
That fag on right would fit right in the CS freshmen group
The only reason this doesn't look worse is because it's lowfidelity.
maybe use a picture of elly that doesn't suck ass and is fucking tilted
Yes, turn in-game voices down in the audio options menu.
>iconic
The most iconic and recognizable Xeno character is an anime robot who constantly ranked high on polls for nearly two decades straight, and is one of the most recognizable JRPG characters of the 00s.
tanaka's artstyle was translated perfectly in blade 2 stop trying faggots
>weebshit
How the fuck do you retards even find this series?
>OH NO NO NO
tanaka is here to stay regardless so you can be mad all day an nothing will change lmfao
Way better than the garbage in 1
>tfw you kill God and she laughs are your Monad
feels bad man
Yes right though
>Stay
>Monolith is looking for a artist to be the face of Xenoblades
>Tanaka is a freelancer who gave a goodbye tweet to Monolith
He is gone
>he is gone
he was never ANYWHERE
nigga is a fucking freelancer
the endless threads lol
Not this. If by iconic you mean how memorable it was because it was shit then yeah.
>gave a goodbye tweet to Monolith
Stop talking about shit you know nothing about.
Tanaka's artstyle is iconic and almost synonymous with Xeno.
Xenoblade 1 looks the way it does because they didn't have a character designer and its armor designers had to rush out characters on the spot, and then outsource the ingame portraits and illustrations to a Hong Kong studio.
what studio?
he's an autistic man with only one friend he talks with on a regular basis, of course he likes waifu simulator
Tanaka will never be a lead designer. Monolith is looking for someone who isn't any of the current designers.
>the town made him stupid
I never understand Xenoblade fans. Why don't you just play Tales? It's literally the same thing but better.
>It's literally the same thing but better.
lol
no.
that dude's a braindead retard, I don't know why anyone would take his opinions seriously
not him and he got it wrong, it's not a Hong Kong studio that helped design/illustrate XB1's characters, but just a guy living in Hong Kong named Tonny WaiMan Koo
Don't bully autistic people, catto.
I tried playing Tales of Vesperia, but the setting is ass, overworld fucking barebone, soulless and offers nothing to explore and the combat is shit. Literally the complete opposite of Xenoblade.
It's completely different, and not better at all. It's so bad they had to remaster Vesperia which is mediocre itself just to rekindle interest in the series.
>far better writing
>random plot holes and Zanza is a literal fucking retard
he might be one of the highest functioning autists I've ever seen, if that's any consolation
who was responsible for giving a robot tits that jiggly?
thanks man.
seems he worked on soma bringer too.
Thanks for the laugh, user. Better gameplay, better environments, better story, better animation, better musics, better fun, better everything. Scamco better step their game up for the next ales because now I just couldn't care less about Tales. Okay, I like the bantz between the Tales characters, but that doesn't make a game good.
I can't take Malos seriously because he looks just like Groose
Because there's nothing in common between those games aside from the genre? Also, Vesperia was the last good Tales game, there's no point in playing any of the newer games.
Tales doesn't have the science fantasy at the end of the game gimmick that all the Xeno games do, so pass
>All these zoomers who start their Xeno game from Xenoblade
Maybe I am getting too old for this site.
Where do most oldfags hang around now?
user...
I'm 37, and started with Xenoblade Chronicles. Maybe you should get over yourself?
THEY LITERALLY ALL DO
>Tales
>same thing but better
wew lad
If I wanted my Xeno fix from non-Xeno JRPGs I'd just go play Kiseki since it was actually inspired by Xenogears.
Nice bait, worked well.
>Play trails of Rean
>not doing it for valimar
>NU UH
Wow, must've taken some big think to come up with such a creative comeback.
Wow must've taken some big think to reply to 5 hour old post.
Try /vr/, it's about as decrepit as you and as empty as your soul.
>he bullied a game I like so I'll call him names
He's a growing boy.
how the fuck can you remove Sharla and her bigass brapper? Reyn is also irreplaceable. My only question was who I played which was Shulk 90% of the time and Melia 10% of the time.
Melia's fun. Ever since she joined the party I rarely played as anyone else.
The game tricks you into thinking Sharla is necessary, the truth is adding another damage dealer and knowing how the chain attack multiplier works means you can kill anything before healing is necessary or just use Riki since his heal is good enough. That being said I used Sharla for my entire playthrough while playing as Dunban since I didn’t really know that stuff until people told me.
>tfw played Shulk / Reyn / Dunban the entire time
>bossfight
>cutscene halfway
>bossfight again
I just beat Xenoblade 2 10 minutes ago and for some reason I feel like the cutscenes in 2 were more poorly spaced out than in 1, but then I look at the actual lengths of cutscenes and it's about the same. Also Pneuma is way too cute.
Monolith sure does put love and care into their asses
Pneuma is literally just green Pyra in terms of voice and personality.
wat
Wrong thread. My apologies.
>Pyrafag is a /pol/fag
figures
im not talking about gameplay, i'm talking about a round brown booty. if you dont have sharla in your party you're a latent gay
Well I like Pyra, I like latex covered boobs, and my favorite color is green so she's a straight upgrade see?
>Having statistics on crime automatically makes you a polfag.
Wow, stereotype much?
Xenoblade Chronicles' character models and textures were top notch, why did they change it it for the soulless version on the right?
hah dood I love nitpicking
I too enjoyed topple-locking enemies to death.
That's literally the entire combat system. Whoever says the combat is better than 2's is just being a hipster faggot.
>Not Riki/Fiora/Dunban
I have yet to find a playstyle in any Xenoblade more fun than stacking statuses just to SAY SORRY nuke.
Is there anything in XC1 that is as funky as Mor Ardain's?
Not really. The closest it gets would be Mechonis Field.