"It is ok when japan does it" is what killed a lot of good western games

I just really want Westerners to stop making games. Either go with the Japanese design philosophies or fuck off.

Hitman 2 released close to Smash and tons of other bigger games. That's why it flopped. Companies are greedy but they're dumb

>after making a watered down game that sold very well and was well received by normies.
So, exactly the same thing as FFXV?

>playing hitman after absolution

It was an improvement on 13 which is all fans of the series wanted.

>what is the difference between making a soulless cashgrab and building up an actually interested userbase
Normies won't be interested forever.

Your fucking picture doesn't even carry what you are whining about.
Figs and apples only that MUH ZIPPERHEADS grew the apples.

If the game is not made for retards it sells poorly, what a surprise.

This happens always with each passing generation. Either your game becomes easier and more cinematic or it won't sell shit.

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Hitman is a western game?

So Absolution was relatively worse than FFXV yet still saw the same level of success, and then OP cries about unfair double standards in favour of Japan.

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I really have no idea what this comparison is supposed to prove, Final Fantasy is an extremely popular and mainstream franchise that can sell on it's name alone.
While Hitman has always been a niche franchise aimed at hardcore gamers.

You could just as easily flip this and have the Western game be the mainstream and unambitious Call of Duty and the Japanese game be a niche but well regarded amongst fans JRPG franchise like Tales.

It's not an East vs West thing, it's mainstream appeal + recognizable brand = good sales while niche appeal + niche/unknown brand = poor to moderate sales.

Yeah and what is wrong with hitman2 ? There is no muh episodic release or muh online .
Yeah this is the sad truth. It is just unjust to blame western dev for watering down their games. If io sticked with absolution linear cinematic style, it would have been swimming in cash.

This is dumbest fucking strawman I've seen today

>western ""games’’
yikes

FFXV had 10 years of hype behind it and it's a fucking FF game it was going to sell no matter how bad the final product was

>It was an improvement on 13
I wouldn't call that an improvement

There is a reason the video game industry went to shit when westerners started to dominate it. You cannot avoid this reality.

Hitman 2 was too similar to previous games and had a really shitty story and cut-scenes.

>Not shooting up a mezquite
I bet you are not even suscribed to pewdiepie

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Dear god some midrange franchise+studio, that gets passed arrount like an STD and now ended up with one of the shittiest publisers imaginable, did worse than a fucking juggernaut of a series that still is able to dickride former glory even with normalfags?
You could have made this pic with literally any major triple AAA release aside from Fallout 76 of the last few years and could have arrived at the same "unfair" scaling.

FPBP
no such thing
at least not in the current year

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Why are Hitman fanboys mentally stunted spergs?
More than other fans, I mean.

the first game killed the second.

>Sonic Mania comes out, harder than the actual Genesis games it's based on, sells great.
>Cuphead comes out, is ballbusting, sells great.
>DMC5 comes out, is no easier than other installments, sells great.
>Resident Evil 2 remake comes out, is arguably harder than original, sells great.

Well FF and Hitman are both owned by SquareEnix. Which is a Japan based publisher.

Hitman 2 launched in 2002.

MUH REBOOT

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Square flooded the Japanese market with copies. It hit the bargain bin literally the week after due to poor word of mouth. This is a poor comparison, especially since OP's pic got fooled hard by Square's reporting tactics to prop up XV far more than it really is.

noctis the prince 06 was a downgrade from 13.

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Oh shut the fuck up.

Have any good western games come out in the last two years?

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Gaming is dying, when Capcom is the only decent company around and all they're doing is essentially making suped up versions of past games you know something is wrong.

Just be happy with what we get because in a decade it'll all be Battle Royale MOBA shit.

>always online with timed content
>gee why didnt this single player title sell well?

>hitman fans wanted episodic content
retard

Hitman is owned by IOI since they split from SE

it's not a reboot dipshit

Absolution killed nu-Hitman, the online shit just stomped it down a little further into the ground.
Absolution killed off most of the diehard fanbase that would have shilled for it, and cemented the series in peoples' minds as something mediocre, not worth looking out for. When nu-Hitman came out, and was surprisingly good, almost no-one gave it a chance and found out. What little attention it got was negative over its shoddy monetization scheme.

If Hitman games don't sell the solution is to stop making Hitman games, not slap the Hitman name on some horrific garbage that spits on the brand name. Take Naughty Dog, they've completely sold out and become a horrific monstrosity but you don't see them shitting all over Jak & Daxter and I begrudgingly respect them for that. Compare that to the heinous atrocity that is Nu-God of War: Respecting Women edition.

>There is no muh episodic release or muh online

If they removed the online only shit that's news to me, and I waste about 80% of my life reading gaming news.

I know someone’s opinion immediately just by their smug japanese girl reaction.jpg

People who turn single player franchises into multiplayer games should be strangled with a piano wire.

Gamers definetely wanted to buy a Hitman game in episodes.

American games stopped being good when they let art school cultural marxist dictate how video games should be used.

wut

then it simply failed. hitman isnt a strong series. its a playable AA game at most like some AA dudebro shooters last gen. normies are bored of all kinds of dudebro games. it doesnt sel this gen without some superb gameplay or addictive online content. its just stale. it doesnt have a unique character like mgs either.

>western games
>eastern games
>good
Pick none.

Hitman is watered down casualshit though wtf

damn hitman didn't deserve that

If you wanted story play Absolution

both shit games.

Hitman is European

>good western games
youtube.com/watch?v=gxm3oKeh8tA

Just want to say Hitman2016 and Hitman 2 are fucking bomb. Get on that shit.

>normies
Fuck off normalfags.

They did not remove it. Hitman 2 is still very much so Online-Only. But it's not for DRM. There's leaderboards and they release new content on a regular basis (I think they're called "Exclusive Contracts" or something) which are a limited time assassination mission that give unique rewards, like new suits. It's really not that big of a deal.

Let's be clear -- You can play it offline. But challenges are disabled, which are like achievements and grant rewards (you unlock weapons and tools as you complete challenges). But you can certaintly play offline. And if you've gotten all the toys you need, you're not missing anything by doing so

this

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>It is okay when japan does it
But why? What makes them so special that they can get away with so much more bullshit

The Division 2

Japan are the kings of video games. Cry harder, cope harder. You're gonna bring up sales? Gacha games shit down your throat in sales. Iconic figures? Please, what does the west have? Green space marine guy number 36363? You'd be hard pressed to find a person that doesn't know who Mario is. The most iconic video games are Japanese, the most successful video games (shit metric but westcacucks love to bring it up to cope) are also Japanese. The best games are Japanese. The only good western games are ancient and outdated. From niche to casual, Japan is unmatched, Japan is to video games what Hollywood is to movies, you cannot compete. Saying America is as good is as prosperous as a Pajeet claiming Bollywood is as good.

>Shills being shills

Your problem, not mine.

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why even force this westcuck faggotry into this?

like what the hell does these games have to do with Jap vs West bullshit?

Jap games in general don't sell nearly as well as western games, even if one Jap game sold more copies than a single western one

big IP like XV selling 8 millions is nothing compared to big western rpgs (that are similarly streamlined for a bigger market) like Diablo 3 or Skyrim selling over 35 millions.

Hitman might just not be a very popular series, or maybe the marketing for 2 was just shit, or maybe people the episodic release of the previous game killed people's interest in the series

>Shills misinforming people
Yup, sounds like a shill to me

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The left can't meme.

>Deflecting to another, shills trying to use memes as advertising too
cringe.jpeg

>FFXV STILL pisses people off and ignites a whirlwind of shitposting
it's pretty impressive. I gave the game a shot and didnt really care for it, but it was just another game. what is it about FFXV that gets people so emotionally invested in irrelevant shit like sales numbers, production, and corporate drama?

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Did you miss your dilation session today? Is that why you're mad?

>FF VS 13
>rushed development
Masterful bait here folks, a true craftsman at work.

Oh my fuckin lol

But I am not mentally ill, so I am not a tranny; Go shill your game at reeeddit

Lefties are calling it right wing propoganda so it's based.

that is why he said "rushed" in quotes because it was worked on FOR 10 YEARS

and still needed DLC to complete the story but the DLC got cancelled.

it's just one shitposting fanboy at this point

>Lefties are calling it right wing propoganda so it's based.
>Picking a side like a faggot instead of being a contrarian like a true user to maximize the lulz.

>you're a tranny!
>n-no, you're a tranny!
>no you, reddit resert era seethe!
>cringe discord tranny will never be woman!
quality stuff guys, keep up the good posts

Unironically cringed at this post

Why do you people even come to this board?

The best part is I'm getting paid by the NRA to promote The Division 2 while he's being a keyboard warrior for free.

hitman actually requires thinking and planning, something that current add kids lack.
also episodic.

its final fantasy. I think they realize the west is not a bunch of teens playing rpgs due to access of game buyer data.

>keyboard warrior
>Telling someone to go shill their game somewhere else is now considered keyboard warrior
Kek

>Is so poor, he's working Sunday morning trying to shill a video game on an image board

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Everyone is well aware you don't like it.

Don't forget that Discord sells literally everything you faggots do/say/post on it to these companies to further reinforce that consumer data.

Japanese media is more unique because they work off a creator-focused system and greenlight games based on gameplay prototypes

Western media is safe and samey because the west designs by committee and greenlights based on setting and setpieces

You're dumb

It's late afternoon here. I'm about to go home.

Hitman failed because it took absolution and made it into Hitman game. It's still shit.

>based on setting and setpieces
*based on graphics and market trends
ftfy

>fuck yuge franchise that gets peoples nostalgia boners raging
vs
>game with decent following, but not a household name

and one outsells the other? wow who shoulda coulda or woulda thunked that

um no
actually discord sells it to the chinese government

Is that a joke?
I was in the alpha and the beta and it was just as shitty as the first game.

Name one Japanese game that isn't by From Software that's better.

DMC 5
REMake 2
MonHun World
All blow The Division 1 and 2 out of the water.
Only retarded consolefags addicted to shitty looter shooters actually think The Division is good.

Wtf I love discord now. Long live uncle Xi.

>singleplayer only games
Miss me with that gay shit
>mhw
Kek, that game is all grind and little substance. Complete opposite of div 2.

>Multiplayerfag
Eww, get that consoletrash away from me.

DMC5 has multiplayer

I want to strangle every fucking weeb in this thread.

>cuck that only likes games when others play it for him

Hey mate how do i become an ubisoft shill?
Is the pay good?

t. Scrub who can't handle enemies controlled by humans.
I'm starting to understand why you picked those games.

>He says while playing a game that's almost 100% nothing but co-op trash made for consoleniggers
My fucking sides.

Strangle my dick into your throat, cuck

What a sad falseflagger. Not your fault though user, it's your parents being low iq niggers.

You need to fucking die.

Damn, lotta upset people. I guess they're mad that a game published by fucking UBISOFT of all companies BTFO the east.

Oof

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Oh no, a dilating tranny got so butt blasted by the right wing intro that they shat all over the gameplay and gave it a low score. This changes everything!

>I enjoyed my time with The Division for the most part. There was something appealing about exploring a barren, snowy New York City, shooting bad guys, and working to uncover the mystery of “The Dollar Flu.” It was a Tom Clancy story for all intents and purposes, but it did feel a little more sci-fi than usual. If you took a magnifying glass to the story, things got uncomfortable though. It essentially endorsed police violence against looters during a state of emergency. Luckily for everyone who wasn’t down with that vibe, The Division 2 doubles down on that in a way that makes the whole experience feel like violent right wing survivalist porn.

>The game opens, and I am not exaggerating here, on a dramatic mid-range shot of a holiday paper coffee cup ala the “controversial” Starbucks holiday drama. The narration, which assumes you played the first game and doesn’t bother to explain what anything is, opts to instead play out like a deranged NRA advertisement. It almost feels like a parody, especially when the game drags modern society for caring more about coffee and free wi-fi than this vague idea of things that matter more? It points to the first game’s pseudo-apocalyptic disaster briefly, before cutting to “Did You Own a Gun? Did Your Neighbor?” and suggesting the collapse of society brought on by a literal mad scientist who poisoned money during Black Friday was somehow the fault of normal people for not being paranoid doomsday preppers.

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Cope

Dilate

normalfags is too long

Do you remember when saying "normalfag" would get you sent to r9k?
No? That's because you are a fucking newfag.
Now fuck off.

Being lazy money loving jews is what killed western devs.
Take shit like Bethesda or Blizzard for instance. They don't give a damn about making a quality game, only bullshit that sounds good to investors sell products.
To be honest, I don't think its necessarily their actual designers but their higher ups and share holders. The problem is videogames are viewed differently by the Japanese and they worry about the integrity of the craft.
In the west its either
>make it as fast as possible its just a toy kids will buy it
*see Bethesda
or
>we gunna sell to EVERYONE, it totally doesn't matter if we ruin what we had before this
*see Blizz

Dumb faggots refuse to treat videogames like a goddamn videogames. They're its own thing and you can't run a games company as if it were a different media company because consumers won't have it. There has been plenty of cases were new game company CEOs were coming from movie production companies only to end up with the game company failing.

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>"It's almost like this game wants you to believe that bad things are wrong! Can you xuys believe it?"
This isn't real.

I think the problem is more with western and japan audiance.
When western ignored gems like mother series or ace attorney series. Japanese just showed them the middle finger and focused on marketing their games locally and it works because your average japense player isn't a braindead fag who needs to play and follow only what is popular in the world. However, for western fags that don't work. They are either trendy normalfags or nostalgia fags who can't enjoy anything that isn't more than 10 year old.

You seem to think that games stop existing few months after their release.

That sounds awful though. Why do I need to connect to their server in order to unlock weapons? And why the fuck make real-time limited missions? Sounds like some "game as a service" bullshit with no real purpose except probably mtx.
Maybe there's a good reason, I'm just saying it sounds fucking bad, like the same feeling as a mobile game. It's not surprising that people would pass on it.

>Buy a Japanese singleplayer game
>Can get access to 100% of the game without ever being online

>Buy western singleplayer game
>Need to connect to the servers to do basic shit
Hmm, I wonder why people shit on these western singleplayer games.

>Leaderboards need internet

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I really don't think its fair for you to say this since you obviously don't know much about the actual Japanese public and are just spit balling.
This can be chalk up to a difference in interests not opinions on quality. Besides what you are saying is a bit paradoxical, we wouldn't have a large sum of people saying they prefer Japanese now or western games starting to sell worse if the public didn't prefer their attitudes in the games industry.

>Resident Evil 2 remake comes out, is arguably harder than original, sells great.
Mate it's not even hard. Not having tank controls really killed it. Remake is trash.

Sorry, did you want those Leaderboards sent to your mailbox instead?

The eternal truth is that the greatest market is young children.
Even if they have less money than adults, they aren't nearly as picky when buying games, and are quick to spend more on in-game stuff once they get hooked.
If you can get 12yo's to spend millions on micro-purchases, then really, why would you make anything better?

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is this a BLACKED crop?

The reason I did not purchase Hitman 2 had nothing to do with the gameplay, but rather the exploitative practices regarding DLC and the 'elusive targets' bullshit. Japan largely does not pull this shit in comparison.

Weebs are mindless automatons that will buy whatever thing that has Japan written on the box, no matter how poor quality it is.