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About to install Debian KDE in a few minutes
contribute to dxvk development, not that there's much that needs to be done anymore
Wine needs:
- .wmv (WMP/quartz) playback (some older games use this for cutscenes)
- Media Foundation support (some modern games use this for cutscenes)
- DXVA2 (rare)
- Stop anti-cheat from blocking us.
99% of games that don't work in Wine+DXVK would work after these problems are solved.
The large majority of Windows games already do work.
I'd also like to note that Media Foundation support can be worked around and supported.
Most RE Engine games from Capcom like RE2Make, Monster Hunter World, and DmC 5 all use this, and they all work on Linux once you add Media Foundation support.
Older .wmv playback support relying on WMP/quartz libraries however doesn't work and usually can't be worked around, at least without using a 32-bit WINEPREFIX which you can't do with Proton (Wine built into Steam and supported by Valve)
install gentoo
speaking of which, damn gentoo being slow with wine updates lately, finally updated to 4.3 with faudio support today (despite 4.4 is out), don't make me use the live ebuild
I used Gentoo for years before switching to Arch.
I actually think Gentoo doesn't have the manpower to maintain itself, and Gentoo itself is chaotic.
Literally everyone is running a unique system. Their packages were compiled with unique build-time options and CFLAGS, built against varying different versions of other packages.
With a binary distro there is thousands of other people using the same exact packages as you, with the same exact compiler flags. If there's a problem, you're not alone.
I wanted a binary distro. Using Gentoo is actually maintaining your own distro.
I just maintain things myself when necessary, but 90% of the time gentoo is updated just fine (just a few packages that get lazy now and then), sometimes even stupidly fast due to some overly motivated maintainers
I modify and patch way too many things to be able to go back to a binary distro
back when I was using debian I had tons of stuff installed in my home directory because I was compiling them myself and it was a pain to keep sorted out and updated, lot simpler with gentoo now, and I can use the optimizations I want
...firefox updates especially feel kinda silly, the new ebuilds are up before firefox even announced the released and still doesn't even have release notes up
Posting in the worst thread on this board!
Valve's doing their part with Proton at least.
Aside from that, more games just need to be made with OpenGL/Vulkan instead of DirectX/3D. Also other big games like Fortnite or League of Legends etc. being able to be more easily playable on Linux systems would make them more palatable as well without having to do a whole bunch of steps to make them -hopefully- work.
Make Linux more user friendly by having a distro with more features out of the box. Lmao even Ubuntu lacks basic features.
I've used Gentoo for years, and I knew what I was doing, I would never want to go back to that.
I've seen crazy problems, you are literally maintaining your own custom distro with the help of a centralized repo of little shell scripts to build packages.
I enjoy using Arch infinitely more. Aside from the main repo, the AUR is just small PKGBUILD shell scripts much like ebuilds, you run one command and it compiles you a nice package in tar.xz exactly like you get from the real repos, and you can install it through pacman, and it keeps track of it and all the files it installs.
It is so much more clean than compiling software yourself.
aur.archlinux.org
Here's what it looks like for PCSX2.
That's what Mint is for.
>Also other big games like Fortnite or League of Legends
League of Legends can be easily played on Linux. They even manually unblocked Linux users from the anti-cheat.
Fortnite actually would work perfectly on Linux if it wasn't for the anti-cheat,
PCSX2 is actually one thing I modified and need to compile myself to get those modifications in.
So no, I wouldn't want pcsx2 binaries.
I also very much enjoy having "-march=native" on everything I use (also been using LTO on everything bare a few exceptions lately)
How many steps is it to get League working on Linux these days though?
...gentoo's user patches system is so handy
KDE is shit. Use GNOME or just i3 and nano
That isn't a binary. The AUR isn't binaries, it's little shell scripts (PKGBUILD) that give instructions to compile the package on your own PC.
It's very much like an ebuild. Except it's exactly how Arch maintainers build packages for use in the real repos, and it gives you a package that you can install locally with Pacman, rather than running "make install" and having untracked files thrown over your filesystem, like you would when compiling fully manually yourself.
You manually download the PKGBUILD and run one command (makepkg). You could easily edit the PKGBUILD to add whatever compiler flag you want.
>I also very much enjoy having "-march=native" on everything I use (also been using LTO on everything bare a few exceptions lately)
It ain't worth it...
>Implying MATE isn't where it's at
Just give up linuxfag.
>using either gnome or kde, or any of their forks
it all feels so useless and annoying
Same as Windows, except you have to install DXVK into the Wine prefix you want.
So literally only 1 extra step than Windows.
I've done benchmarks and it certainly is worth it with the things I use
and yes I could compile things myself on about any distro if I wanted (even make debian packages), but given it's not really a focus, it ends up making binaries are are identical to what the distro is giving
gentoo gives me a lot more options to control every aspect of it and have everything be exactly how I want them to be
>Use GNOME
valve are working on it with proton
- Compiling stuff with -march=native
- Configuring build-time options with USE flags
- A selection of multiple different versions of the same package (e.g. 50 different versions of Wine)
These are the benefits of Gentoo and I can clearly articulate them. I don't think there's any other benefit and only cons.
It's not worth it unless you just like it for fun. After years of it this was no longer fun, I would never in my life want to go back to Gentoo over Arch.
I'm pretty sure it runs near perfect without DXVK, not that I tried.
Not that there's any reason not to use it anyway, directx to Vulkan translations just work a lot better than OpenGL.
By going against the principles and everything that the free software foundation stands for and making a great video game that will never work on Windows.
for me that's already things I can't live without, also as I mentioned that I can just put patches in a folder and it'll use them when building
I used to do far worse, I've run a linuxfromscratch system for like 2 years back in early 2000. Later I switched back to binary distro and so many things been annoying me. Whenever there's something I don't like it's always "deal with it" or do it yourself.
So I finally considered gentoo, I don't think I'll ever go back.
Fuck games. When are my DAWs and VSTs going to work on Linux?
Vaguely recall reading linux 5.1 is getting some new drivers for DAWs, but odds are it's not yours and you're still fucked.
>I had tons of stuff installed in my home directory
learn to write debian package, dumbfuck
there's also reprepro that allows you to make local repo so when you install a package it will install your modified version instead of debian's one
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I did make debian packages at first, but it started to feel like a pain I and I stopped bothering later.
it's the best it's ever been that's for sure
>tfw used to game on linux back in early 2000s
it was cool there was still some linux version around though, like neverwinter nights and quake 3 that I played a lot
somehow managed to play Morrowind on the Wine of the time too. Think it had to use some wine fork too, it was pretty shitty.
Everything is so easy now, especially now that I finally got a new card (1070) and can use Vulkan (had a 560ti before).
speaking of Morrowind, nowadays you'd just use OpenMW though
XFCE is the best DE.
I did like how light it was, though I prefer MATE.
True. It's amazing how much improvement has been done since DXVK started.
I've been buying and playing a lot of video games ever since they released Proton last August. The novelty of playing games on Linux fuels me.
Valve is really putting money into Wine and DXVK too, hiring CodeWeavers devs. Wine 4.4 was just released and they have better wmv support, the beginning of Media Foundation support, and they just fixed a bug in Wine that caused Bayonetta not be able to change settings.
Remove nVidia
I still use xfce4, not that I use a whole lot from it
just xfwm4, xfdesktop, terminal, and the panel really. I don't use any file manager, I always preferred to handle everything from the console.
Glad it's finally done with gtk2 except for very minor things, being mixed between 2 and 3 felt like such a mess.
pretty happy about the support for games on linux trough steam to be honest. I wish there was more support for my ancient japanese porn games tho.
Almost the only reason these wouldn't work is because of .wmv (WMP/quartz) support.
You could try them in a 32bit WINEPREFIX with winetricks quartz devenum wmp9 wmp10
May work. But they're also finally working on support for this because Valve is putting money behind it.
I typically don't have much trouble running ancient japanese porn games on Wine myself. Usually less than trying to run them on modern windows.
in more recent things, I had trouble with shitty porn rpg maker mv games in wine not long ago.. and then realized I could run them linux native by just unpacking the linux nwjs in the folder
Most older games and such run better on Linux through Wine/DXVK then Windows 10. It's nuts.
wrong.
>tfw play Evenicle recently, the only thing that wasn't working is the intro cinematic
not that I couldn't just watch it directly with a media player and skip it in-game
but I had to mess with it a bit so it'd let me skip it at all, things were funky
Most porn games that I have tried to run recently through Wine didn't work all that well.
Linux fags are fucking pathetic.
ouch
at least they're fucking something unlike you
Where do you pirate your linux native games Yea Forums?
>tfw game has a linux native version but play it on wine instead because could only find the windows versions.
try rutracker or /t/
with games