Why is this game so overrated? Is it just nostalgia?

Why is this game so overrated? Is it just nostalgia?

>awful dungeons, not only there are a few, but they all suck shit, have some gimmick to it, are escort shit
>blatant cut content (LOL HERE'S THE FREE BLUE PEARL BRO)
>dogshit combat that breaks down to spam B or target and wait for the QTE to win
>a flat, boring empty overworld, with a bunch of shitty copypasted islands you'll only visit once, with jackshit to do in them
>fuckawful sailing mechanic
>that triforce fetch quest that absolutely pads the game and kills the already awful face
>the story is just a tired rehash of OoT again (lol get the blue, red and green gemstones to get the master sword and then awaken the sages to defeat Dorf)

>it all gets a pass because DUDE MUH LE COMFY VISUALS

Honestly this piece of shit is the worst 3D Zelda, yes even worse than SS

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Some of the best music/art and therefore atmosphere in vidya history. It just feels amazing to play and sucks you in.

The tragedy is that there'll never be a proper second game on a big console with the exact same art style but better and more polished.

it's because everyone shit themselves saying it was babies first zelba because of shitty cel shading and now they feel bad so need to overcompensate

>Why is this game so overrated? Is it just nostalgia?
Yes, it was the underdog title on the underdog console so people tend to remember it fondly and obscuring the flaws, like pic.

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Onion drinkers love the art style and ““““charm”””””

Pros
> Best Graphics in gaming history for a game over 10 years old
> Amazing Soundtrack, listed as one of the 10 best of all time for a reason
> Captures the feeling of going on a adventure better then any game except FFX & Dragon Quest 8
> Easy as fuck, so every Journalist & normie can sit back and easily playthrough it without any hassle
> Underrated story, probably the most well written main plotline in the story, is mature despite the deceptive art style
> Objectively the best version of Ganondorf, Link & Zelda in the series
> Almost everything in the game is memorable
> Gameplay is timeless & still holds up
> Best sound effects in the entire series behind OOT, everything sounds cool as fuck
> Was the most mindblowing techinical achievement of the early 2000s aside from Prime, GTA 3 & Perfect Dark, which explains it's high Metascore
Cons
> It's notoriously unfinished
> Not enough content, most of the islands are worthless
> Opening level (Forsaken Fortress) Is terrible & widely called THE worst in the series behind Twilight Princess
> Has more wasted potential than any game in history, which makes it frustrating as fuck when you see all of the cut content like Tetra being your companion throughout & the underwater Hyrule
> It's too easy & die hard autists hated it
> The Triforce shard quest is one of the most game breaking quests in any Nintendo game
> Tetra is severely underutilized
> Ghost Ships are wasted as they are all copy & pasted from the dungeons
> Severe lack of side content & items
> No replay value unless you are one of the millions that loved the absolutely love the game. I for one have no desire to play it again
> Not enough fucking dungeons, the dungeons are all amazing but there simply aren't enough of them to warrant exploring the entire island
> The Great sea is a huge waste of time due to my earlier point of the lack of content that plagues the game, and is essentially padding

When I was a kid with nothing better to do it was great. I will never play it again though since I could legitimately go make a sandwich sailing between points and not make it to the island before I got back to my room. There's just better things to waste your time on than staring at blue

>Underrated story, probably the most well written main plotline in the story
The story sucked and doesn’t go anywhere until the very end

Not an argument brainlet, you obviously didn't play it & are being contrarian just to cry about the game.

Because it was so shat on at release, faggots think it's cool to like this game. Like it makes them unique or some shit.

>> Best Graphics in gaming history for a game over 10 years old
it looks like shit

I will agree that it is both flawed and overrated, but I still liked it. The artstyle, soundtrack, and atmosphere carry the game and make it worth playing despite its flaws. Not to mention the fact that it's still better than any non-remake Zelda to release in the past 10 years.

Cope more, this is objectively & factually incorrect. No matter how much you seeth that won't stop millions of people from loving WW & calling it their favorite Zelda

>Argumentum ad populum
As expect of WWcucks

>awful dungeons
The puzzles in them are absolute shit during a replay, but experiencing everything for the first time along with the atmosphere is pretty nice.
>the story is just a tired rehash of OoT again
This isn't true in the slightest.

Its not overrated at all. Its appreciated by the people who like it and hated by the people who don't, often for the brainlet arbitrary reason of its cartoon graphics.

Its a solid game and the last game to be made in OoT's gameplay style. I wonder how different the entire franchise would be if that spaceworld hidef OoT tech demo footage was never shown. It gave people the impression that was what the next Zelda would be like and then WW came as a complete polar opposite to create a seemingly large and unnecessary amount of hate that could have been avoided. If there was no backlash against WW, then TP wouldn't have been made, nor Aonuma's spineless cowering to thinking people only wanted Zelda games with OoT references but not OoT game design. We could have had a ton more truly original zelda games that played comfortably alike and improved upon OoT game philosophy instead of TP, SS, BotW, ALBW all relying on explicit direct references to older games. Poor Aonuma got shot down just as he spread his wings.

honestly, windwaker is my favorite game of all time. the game is flawed in a lot of ways, but i still replay it every year or so. it's just got too much sentimental value for me. i remember saving up my money for it as a kid, playing it nonstop once i got it, trying to explore every nook and cranny for secrets. every time i play through it i can recognize as an adult all of its shortcomings, from the immense padding to the obviously cut content. but when i play it i still feel the same wonder i did when i was a kid. it's like a gateway to a simpler time. no depression or anxiety. my dad's not an alcoholic. my sister is alive. for just a bit, i don't have to deal with any of it.

You didn't have an argument other then being a contrarian & hating on something that everyone agrees is good simply to fit in with the Yea Forumsivemind

>often for the brainlet arbitrary reason of its cartoon graphics.
It has the worst dungeons, side quests in the series, the meat of Zelda games. The art style excuse worked back in2003 but it’s been sixteen yours and it doesn’t hold up well outside of the art style.

This, Aonuma flat out stated that BOTW was what he planned Wind Waker 2 to be except with all of the traditional Zelda shit & on a smaller scale

>often for the brainlet arbitrary reason of its cartoon graphics.
Escort mission dungeons faggot

It was great the first time through, but there's like ten better Zeldas so I have no idea why some people bother with this game anymore

Both of those is objectively wrong, nice cope you absolute faggot. TP cucks are literally incapable of finding a flaw in WW without stating vague & empty critisms for a game they didn't even play. Which shows since they parrot the same ad-homeum that all brainlets & Internet trolls say about WW

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Retard, that was the remake for the Wii U, and they specifically made that part easier

You literally just described Twilight Princess, except it wasn't even good on it's first time through.
Not an argument, if the game is "So easy" like you autists claim it is then it's not a problem at all

Still haven't provided a single argument as to how it's bad without spouting vague buzzwords

>Both of those is objectively wrong, nice cope you absolute faggot.
SEETHING

Wind Waker thread, nice. I was thinking of starting a playthrough using the randomizer with these settings. Any thoughts? Never used the randomizer before but I wanted an excuse to explore very thoroughly as I've played the game a few times before.

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>the short dungeons are “buzzwords”
>the entirety of the pearl quest is “buzzwords”
>the very easy combat is a “buzzword”
>the Triforce quest is a “buzzword”
>the steal section right off the tutorial is a “buzzword”

Hey faggot explain all this shit.

>Not an argument, if the game is "So easy" like you autists claim it is then it's not a problem at all
It's not hard just tedious faggot

> the last game to be made in OoT's gameplay style
Are you high? Twilight Princess is pretty much a direct successor to Ocarina of time in terms of gameplay. Certainly far more similar than WW.

>TP out of nowhere
Damn you are one mad faggot

He’s still stuck in 2003, the poor little guy.

>greatest Zelda game
>overrated

blue pearl wasn't a thing because a water temple in an ocean world is dumb
every zelda is spam B
>ocean with secrets
>boring
Sailing mechanic was great, now fixed. Back in the 90s when kids weren't complete autists, they had time to enjoy the only few games they had. Triforce quests helped to flesh out the game and forces you to explore, which is good.
OoT was just a rehash of every other Zelda

No idea. Even as a kid I thought this was shit from the demos I played. People who were worried that it would be easy baby shit for kids from the artstyle were right.

>Honestly this piece of shit is the worst 3D Zelda, yes even worse than SS
I wouldn't go that far.

Watch him bring up the magic bar and mirror shield and say it’s more of a sequel to OoT then TP or some gay shit.

The retard pacing actually helped the game. Like I wanted 5 dungeons of GO HERE GET SAGE DO DUNGEON.

Then they fucked up and did that anyway with the Triforce Quest (With like a single bit of exposition about Ganondorf disappearing to justify it). Why even bother?

>Triforce quests helped to flesh out the game and forces you to explore, which is good.
>getting strongarmed by the game into forced exploration is good
Holy fuck that’s bad.

> POPULAR OPINION BAD!
> UNPOPULAR OPINION GOOD
> DO I FIT IN YET reddit?

Absolutely OBSESSED with Twilight Princess

Why does this game cause you autists so much amounts of asshurt? You realize that everyone will continue to love this game regardless of what a group of vocal minority autists think. So why even bothering obsessing to such a degree? You aren't going to change anyone's mind that likes the game

You could it lives in his head... ____ ____

>attacking the person asking the question instead of actually having a discussion

Hey faggot explain this.

Dont know too many details about WW rando, but with my general experience
>just generate a seed and play it, dont worry about settings
>if you're stuck try to be methodical and check everything you can
>if youre still stuck, fuck it, generate a new seed

>cucks

Normally I don’t bother arguing with children on here. This is no exception. You don’t like “thing”; others do. Why does this bother you so much? Especially x or y years on?

This, everyone be a mindless sheep and don’t think differently. Independent thinking is bad m’kay

I'm sorry to hear that, take this (You) to make yourself feel a little bit better.

>getting strongarmed by the game into forced exploration
?????

> Opening level (Forsaken Fortress) Is terrible & widely called THE worst in the series behind Twilight Princess

jesus glam im not the only one forsaken fortress was god-awful
still like the rest of the game but damn

>Normally I don’t bother arguing
CAUSE YOU NEVER HAD AN ARGUMENT TO BEGIN WITH

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>Aonuma flat out stated that BOTW was what he planned Wind Waker 2 to be except with all of the traditional Zelda shit & on a smaller scale
Source?

Tingle’s service ain’t cheap so cough up the rupees.

> Implying that being a contrarian & going out of your way to cry about a game that 90 % of gamers like is any better

I feel like you don’t know what an “argument” actually is. You’re not making one to begin with. “I don’t think thing!” Warrants an “ok” as a response. you’re just bleating out your opinions and ignoring others. There’s been 2-3 perfectly apt replies that have gone unnoticed and one that lists the pros and cons like an actual functioning adult.

> Implying that being a contrarian & going out of your way to cry about a game that 90 % of gamers like is any better
90% of gamers didn't play Wind Waker

Bitch, please. Paying the monkey and zora was much worse than dumping a few hundred of your 9k rupees into tingle, and WW has easily grindable purples and reds.

>not liking the Triforce hunt is a contrarian
ALSO
>
Like a good sheep, that’s right WWfag, don’t think, just go along with it like everyone else.

Obviously did otherwise 100k gamers wouldn't have voted one of the 10 best games of the 2000s

>The sheer autism of this faggot
Did you lose your virginity by fucking your Wind Waker disc or something?

Doesn’t make it less shittier then it already is. The big test is a fucking treasure hunt? That sucks.

>autism
The mating call of the greater spotted retard.

I’m not the one ranting about a game that’s approaching 20 years old like it personally broke into your house at Christmas and pissed on your presents in front of you.

> Best Graphics in gaming history for a game over 10 years old
> Amazing Soundtrack, listed as one of the 10 best of all time for a reason
> Captures the feeling of going on a adventure better then any game except FFX & Dragon Quest 8
> Easy as fuck, so every Journalist & normie can sit back and easily playthrough it without any hassle
> Underrated story, probably the most well written main plotline in the story, is mature despite the deceptive art style
> Objectively the best version of Ganondorf, Link & Zelda in the series
> Almost everything in the game is memorable
> Best sound effects in the entire series behind OOT, everything sounds cool as fuck
> Was the most mindblowing techinical achievement of the early 2000s aside from Prime, GTA 3 & Perfect Dark, which explains it's high Metascore
Minor shit that barely affects whether it's great today.

> Gameplay is timeless & still holds up
Vague as hell

I can agree that it was impressive for the time, that it's a good world/audiovisual experience/whatever. It's a game though, and you're making almost no points as to why it should be considered a great one.

Jokes on you I actually love grind.

I just wish the actual "plot" part of the game wasn't so short.

>The mating call of the greater spotted retard.
An hero immediately

I see there is a bit of an autism battle going on in this thread. I don't know this history of this game on this board but I remember playing through it to be one of the worst experiences of my childhood.
>Sailing for hours and I couldn't even get up to make a sandwich because an octorok would knock me off the ship if I was AFK.
>Spending multiple days pulling up treasures only to get 200 rupees or some other garbage. >Entire squares of the grid would have 1 tiny island on them with essentially nothing on it. Nothing in the world is significant, it's just empty and meaningless.
>Gannon looks like a faggot.
>The graphics were awful then and they are awful today.

Typical contrarianism shit that is always repeated by contrarians that never actually played it & simply got their opinions from EgoRaptor

The more important question are why the GCZeldafags are so fucking sensitive and jealous of the N64 chads? It's like everyone knows that OOT and MM are universally accepted as great games and can't touch it so they usually just attack WW or TP respectively.
It's like asking which game from that era was the least smelliest bag of shit.
Yeah sure, one might be less smelly, but it's still not worth your time compared to the actual good Zelda games.

>watch him point how the literal similarities between OoT and WW that contradict the retarded claim that TP plays like OoT or some gay shit
mental

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ww is soul incarnate
best link/ganon in the series by far
one of the best ost's in gaming history
top tier sound design
timeless graphics (seriously the "hd" remake hardly looks better and sometimes manages to look worse)
the plot is nothing special (it's a loz game after all) but the individual characters are great

basically it's probably the single greatest presentation in gaming history, although the content of the game itself leaves much to be desired

Getting a lot of use out of that one today aren't you