Remember how everyone started using Steam because it was such good service?

Fuck off pcbro.

>using any fucking service
Time to go back to buying physical copies

What's wrong with Steam though? Currently speaking. What's the thing that makes Steam so egregious?

>good prices
That's an absolute lie. I can get a game 60% cheaper on steam compared to epic

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>it's true

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>Hades is exclusive to the Epic Games store until Early Access is finished
>Don't want to pirate it because autism and I know Supergiant delivers some genuinely good shit
I don't fucking care about the store, but the 'exclusives' can go fuck themselves.

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DRM

Asset flips bad.

The fact that you never see them seems to be irrelevant.

It's not licking SJW journo asses and the review system threatens their jobs.

dont mind me, just killing this chink thread

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Based and redpilled
people forget that, in the stone age of digital gaming, you'd only install steam because you needed it to play counter strike

>it's okay because I blend it out of my vision
The absolute fucking state of valvedr*nes.

DERETE THIS

you can actually pirate epic games and it wouldn't hurt the devs since they are already covered for lost sales.

What about it? I've never been hampered by it thus far.
I pirated some gog games. And I bought them on steam, and they both appear to play the same.

I don't know what asset flips are. Please explain.

Steam's review system threatens the jobs of journos? How does that work?

Jim, if you only insist on playing low effort trash on steam that's all you're going to see I'm afraid. I don't, so I don't get see of that shit.

>I know Supergiant delivers some genuinely good shit
Uhhh...

Will it be rear-wheel-drive too? Don't worry, people will forgive you for lacking standard features because you got a "late start".

The walking lard ballon with a tendency to copy christian medival practices doesn't like it.

>DRM

How is Epic going to fix it?

Reminder the Epicucks have no argument for why pic related is justified.
Ignore all Epicuck threads, their shitty platform will run out of vbucks cash soon.

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And so every chinaman in the thread was abducted by the party.

pretty much this.
Steam was utter trash wen it launched. But you can get away with that when your the first and its 15 years ago

valvle/steam is mostly useless middleman that doesn't deserve a third of game sales /thread

Air conditioning isn't needed, right? Who uses that anyway.

Metro Exodus has Denuvo, you'd be very hard-pressed to find any platform that doesn't have some kind of DRM.

Guys, you have to understand, that many people don't know what you're referencing. So dropping a bunch of vaguely defining buzzwords, makes you sound crazy.

so basically the only people who will care are the trannies and permavirgins that obsess over trophies and steam lvl

>i-i-it's not real because I don't want it to be real
Cry harder, steam is losing the launcher war and you know it.

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Your average person is never going to see those garbage asset flips unless they generally either already play them or dig real damn deep into steam with default options on. Jim specifically hunts for shity asset flip games, so Steam thinks he actually likes them.

Unfortunately that's not true. Epic is backed by Tencent, which has an ungodly amount of money to burn. They are pulling a Microsoft and wedging themselves into the market. Epic Store is the Xbox of PC.

Steam is a hideout for alt right gamers. Epic will bring social justice to gaming.

>yfw you fell for the Epic meme

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>good prices

why the fuck haven't they done it yet then?

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damn, I guess you're right, let me go reverse my mistakes and add a bunch of games to my Epic shopping carthahahahahahahahahaha

Why do I have to appeal to all audiences? Do you think Dark Souls needs an Easy Mode? You know, stuff that Jim Sterling might say?

Taking away all subtlety isn't really better, now is it?

because it will make steam and epic store better for the consumer. retard.

Desu at this point Valve is basically a neutral party, not like they release any games of note, all of these services are fucking evil, I'm going to go with the one with the vested interest in keeping an open market, even ignoring all of the missing features Epic has a vested interest in hooking you into their system then screwing you over long-term. Buying with Steam is a vote for the status quo, buying with Epic is a vote for the continuing fracturing of the ecosystem for dubious reasons beyond "it's not Steam." I'm going to need more than that to switch. Y'all act like Epic isn't just as evil as the rest of them. If anything they're worse, only reason they even got this up and running is off predatory practices stealing birthday money from children on Forknife

When?

How?

the chink fears the shopping cart

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Explain what Steam can do to make up for Epic buying out exclusives besides also buying exclusives.

Except even Microsoft is probably more ethical with data.
Can't wait until online organizations classify the Epic Launcher as spyware.
Can't wait until the EU sues them for who know how many millions.

Can't wait until they make an actual good store.

well this explains why i had a bad feeling about that shit and didnt want to have anything todo with it, thanks instinct and thanks user

>exclusives
No
>good prices
No 3rd party deals, no discounts the extra cost is passed onto you
>Revenue sharing
The only thing I care about a consumer is how cheap it is.

basado y rojopillado

Buying exclusives is not competition and does not drive competition. If it did, the streaming market would be a fucking gold mine of good deals, but yet I still feel fucking burned forcing myself to pay for HBO so they don't hunt me down in the streets and crucify me for torrenting GoT.

>The walking lard ballon
OH! you meant Jim Sterling? I thought you meant Gabe. Or perhaps some Epic employee that I'm unfamiliar with. Simply describing a fat person, doesn't help me understand who you're talking about.

>with a tendency to copy christian medival practices
I don't know what christian medieval practices are. And I don't know what you're insinuating by this. This literally makes no sense.

You weren't being subtle. You just said words that only make sense to yourself.

>Epic Store is the Xbox of PC

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so how much cheaper are those games on epic?

I think he means Jim's general support of censorship

pcbro
test

Don't forget the most important thing of all: Chinese money.

Lower their cut so devs don't go to the competition that provides the mmore benefits.

If they had good prices they wouldn't need exclusives to compete because people would buy in store where the games are cheaper.

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How low can they go to make up 24 million?

Reminder: developers with exclusivity deals on Epic lose NOTHING when you pirate their games.

In fact, you're really just doing them a favor. When they stop publishing exclusively with Epic, your positive experiences with their pirated game will result in good word of mouth for their glorious unexclusive releases.

Piracy is a social good.

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>good prices
unless you live outside of the US ofcourse :^)

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jesus christ
tiananmen square protests 1989 china

Shhh user, get that legit competitive market speak out of here, we're in the age of streaming services, no real competition allowed.

Nice try valvedr*ne.

>mfw game journos lose their jobs because Steam reviews replaced them

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I do. It was the first true digital platform and storefront, it quite literally broke new ground in videogame distribution. Did you zoomers seriously believe digital videogame storefronts were a thing before Steam appeared?

Ah, it makes sense now. That's a very roundabout way of saying Jim Sterling convinced people to distrust Steam, with concerns of censorship.

Making excuses for piracy is kind of redundant, seeing how it's been proven several times that piracy has minimal to no effect on videogame sales.

Can't they make games dedicated to PC with all their fortnite money?
Just buying out games that were going to be released anyway is obviously going to leave a bad taste in people's mouths, and we all know that no AAA developer is going to make a game that has PC in mind first nowadays no matter how much they say PC is an important platform for them.

steam was dogshit when it first came out and it was very reluctantly used by people because it was the counter-strike patcher

Exclusives are the only way. Let's say Epic implements all the features Steam has and even more. WIll you start buying games there? Ofc you won't because you have everything on Steam.

Right but with Steam there's essentially no point in pirating most games.

Prices are low, Steam lets you play offline and on an unlimited number of machines, and Valve isn't going to pay developers even if their game doesn't sell.

Tiananmen Square Massacre 1989 China

And who needs blind-spot monitors? That shit's just a crutch for shitty drivers anyways.

And it improved tremendously over time. Other stores like origin and uplay even followed suit and didn't launch with fewer fucking features than 2004 steam.

Keep trying falsefalgging insect.

And then it became an actual platform/store, basically single-handedly reviving PC gaming.

Steam got it first couple million users by being the DRM solution that was forced onto your computer if you wanted to play Half Life 2, Counter Strike and a multitude of other games.
It didn't become relevant as a digital store until multiple years after its initial release.

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pcbros

The problem with his "exclusives" are they are bought projects that formerly were NOT exclusive. You want exclusives for your platform? Fund some new games from the ground level and earn loyalty. Don't just bribe studios into taking their candy away from the market.

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i fucking hated steam mainly because you were FORCED to use it if you wanted to play cs 1.6 and the problem was computers were pretty shit and could barely run any application + game let alone the steam client + game

buying exclusives is easier than finishing your own games

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Why are people at all pro exclusivity? When the fuck did that become a positive?

Up to publishers. There are DRM-free games on Steam.

Please stop this memes. PC gaming was alive and well before Steam. Some of the best PC games in history released in the mid 2000s.

I would like but nowadays every physical release of a non-CDPR/GFWL game it's just a Steam/Epic code.
Hell, even Fallout Anthology (which had only one game Steam'd on launch) requires all its games to be activated on Steam.

I'm pissed because that new burnout spiritual successor is locked to ebin now

You're talking about profile customization.
Shows how much of an introvert you are.
Epic users had to go to Steam forums to look for help when Axiom verge was crashing.

LOL FAGGOT

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More like the Nintendo, you use it only for the exclusives.

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what the hell are you guys mouthing off about
>remember how steam was shit when it started
>ACTUALLY IT WAS REVOLUTIONARY AND ALWAYS GOOD
>nah everybody hated it
>yeah but it got better
ok? irrelevant post

you are obviously underage if you dont remember the droves of PC only devs abandoning the platform during the 2000's

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UI is getting worse every day. But it's still 10000 times better than Epic Launcher.

DELET DIS NOW WESTERN DOG

CHINA GRETA CHINA NUMBA 1

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>exclusives
>on digital software
>on pc

fuck off with artificial scarcity and literally holding games hostage with walled-garden bullshit, you wanna beat steam be better than steam

I still have a shitload of games in my backlog, I'll get it when it's released.

That means Epic is making a decent when Steam users are using forums to talk about Epic games

>Steam is turning more and more into Epicstore but with unchanged shit revenue share
Honestly, Steam is fucking itself without Epic doing anything. People were saying how consumer pro Steam was, wonder what they will say when they add more anti-consumer shit other than GOOD reviews ONLY.

The point is that making excuses for Epic store by comparing it to 2003 Steam is akin to claiming that a 1999 Prius is an amazing car because it drives better than a Rolls-Royce from 1920s, read: borderline retarded.

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...because they were paid tons of money to make games exclusively for shit, underpowered, limited garbage consoles.

What anti-consumer shit is steam doing?

and they never came back because there is no profit on PC anymore. You can only sell games on PC if they are $5 on sale.

Point is it's unacceptable for a new launcher come out in a state worse than 2004 steam ling ling.

They make most of their money trough PS4 nad mobile with fortnite. With the store they just want something from Valves cake.

Cuphead devs beg to differ.

Your sentence lacks important words like the Epic client lacks important features.

No, comparing Epic STORE to the Steam LAUNCHER is an irrelevant post, by the time Steam started selling third party games - people used it because it was insanely convenient and user-friendly.

Lowering their cut isn't financially feasible for the amount data and load on their site. Even if they did, Epic will just pay the devs to restrict sales anyway, which is not related to some cut. Besides, once valve does it, other sites who aren't as financially successful will then be put under pressure to do the same which hurts the businesses. The only reason Epic can operate is because of Fortnite and engine licensing. Remove that and they are fucked.

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>they where paid
no one paid them shit
they all jumped on the console train because they wanted the money that came with it
even games that where obviously superior on PC like Max Payne or Morrowind got greatly outsold on consoles

Are they going to revenue share with the users? Why would I give a shit otherwise?

>Chinks review bomb steam
>Forces steam to modify review system
>"ROOOK AT THAT, STEAM IS EVIR, UGH YES YES PREASE INSTAR EPIC SO WE CAN SREAL YOUR DATA YESSS

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Ironic coming from a Chink shilling bugman.

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I find that ironic considering consoles are such a dying market that Microsoft is hedging their bets and going full Sega.

Epic used to be Microsoft's first party buddies.

Now Microsoft cucked them and put Halo on Steam, despite Epic giving them a higher percentage of revenue. lol fuck Epic, bitchboy punks.

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It's bitter anti valve shiposters that support anything that hurts valve and its users. Failing to see the reprecussions in the future.

>Cuphead devs beg to differ.

Yes big indies on Steam tend to do well, everyone else eats shit and sells 300 copies

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>Game sucks
>Flops
Sounds like the market is working as intended.

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>Yes, and the PC remains open, and there is more robust competition among PC stores than ever before. There's Steam offering Valve games, Origin offering EA games, Battle.net offering Activision and Bungie games, Epic Games offering games from many publishers.
>Steam offering Valve games
>Epic Games offering games from many publishers

Tim's not even fucking trying anymore

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>Every single game deserves to sell millions of copies!
What are you, fucking retarded?

Deep Rock Galactic
Immortal Redneck
Risk of Rain (soon-to-be 2)
If your indie game is good, it will sell. There's a bit of luck involved, but there's luck in just about every market.

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bleedingcool.com/2018/03/16/nintendo-switch-sales-save-blossom-tales-devs-from-shutting-down/

>#NintendoSwitch community is a blessing! #BlossomTales is now a turnaround story: Humble indie dev @castlepixel can stay in business and continue making games. Love y’all! 3 months #Switch revenues surpass #Steam lifetime revenues 20 times!

>Immortal Redneck

I really need to play that sometime, got it off of a Humble Monthly before

>store-exclusives are procompetitive
He is either lying so blatantly in everyone's face or so detached from economics that he actually believes this.
Both possibilities are terrifying.

I just looked at the store page. It looks like a totally unremarkable Mega Man clone so 300 copies sold sounds appropriate.

>2d indie games
Up until the mid-late 2000s you could make a profit with AAA PC exclusives.
Today every AAA game makes 80-90% of its revenue on consoles. PC is a mere afterthought to publishers.

And what are some of these?

kotaku.com/super-meat-boy-is-the-latest-port-to-sell-better-than-e-1822056498

>The Switch though has seen a number of ports sell better than anticipated. Despite already being out for over three years, the Switch version of Shovel Knight sold better than any of the other versions at launch according to its developer, Yacht Club Games. Wonder Boy: The Dragon’s Trap, Forma.8, and other games have seen similar success. SMG Studios noted in September that Death Squared sold more on the Switch in the first three days than all other platforms it released on combined, while the same thing happened to the Zelda-like exploration game Oceanhorn. And then there was SteamWorld Dig 2, Immage & Form’s action platformer that sold 10 times more on Switch than on Steam.

AAA games are trash so I'm fine with that.
Consolefags unironically bragging about eating up trash like Anthem and Battlefield V makes me glad that the western gaming industry is dying outside of F2P shit made for zoomers.

Nintendo is a smaller market so your indie shit has a better chance to be seen there. PC and Mobile is full of it so it's much harder to make a living doing that.

>PC is a mere afterthought to publishers
In 2010, maybe. PC market share is huge, the fact that there are a couple of AAA publishers/developers that don't release PC versions is irrelevant.

He's a Chink puppet, even if he didn't want to say these things he has to since he has no say in his company. Pathetic. I hope he feels it was worth it to sell his integrity when they discard him and his used up husk of a company in the end.

Negative reviews are removed if the customer talk about crashes, DRM, new versions changing game and dev hate. They are selling it as a way to remove review bombing, which it really is more than that.

They have you be able to opt out of the echo chamber of positivity only, but I tried it and no change was made.
You dumb fucks. I don´t even have a Epic account and have been using Steam for 9 years now.

it's not about games, it's about money for the chink, that's all

Battlefield used to be good when it was PC exclusive. It was until 2008

>putting my game on a brand new market with one of biggest names in gaming history behind it made me sell well, wow!
Keep in mind Nintendo is pushing to get just about any game on their market, they really don't care about devs. If you open up the market it's completely bloated with shovelware.

> inb4 valve used exclusives to push its online distribution service
> inb4 drones unironically defend a corporation that's done nothing of value for a decade other than provide server space

Noice

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I am Chinese

I'm so sorry for your misfortune.

>PC market share is huge
Only if you count free2play shit. Actual game sales are pitiful. That's why every game is multiplatform with the design focus on consoles.

nah, only good prices are important to me. when can i expect games to be cheaper than on steam?

>nothing of value for a decade other than provide server space
>What is Proton
>What is Steam controller support
>What is Workshop
>What is the new multiplayer API to allow for devs to set up dedicated servers through Valve

You're asking too much of the market with how saturated PC is. People use epic launcher for fortnite, not the other shit. Just like alot of people use Steam for CSGO and Dota

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DERETE THIS

>Console revenue was made up of almost 40% F2P shit and microtransactions last year thanks to Fortnite, Warframe, GTA Online, and NBAshit
Really makes me think.

pcgamer.com/capcom-exec-says-pc-is-an-important-platform/
>Capcom makes an entirely new engine just for PC games to avoid every one of their games to be shitty ports
>some faggot on 4chins on the other hand says that devs don't care about PC
get bent.

How do the Chinese type in their language on a keyboard? Does it have more buttons?

YO guys its all good and Epic is working hard to deliver fresh new totally cool alternative for that shitty steam. Acording to plan, in six months we will add a fucking shopping cart to our shop. STEAM IS FUCKING DEAD AS FUCK MY BROS

ps. search bar is on the way too!!!!!!!!!

moooooot?

why ((they)) want to displace steam? too good for customers?

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>What is Proton
Valve's bid to take gain control of Linux gaming
>What is Steam controller support
trash
>What is Workshop
killing the mod community
>What is the new multiplayer API to allow for devs to set up dedicated servers through Valve
because devs couldn't set up dedicated servers before?

3rd worlders and children

It was required for Half Life 2.

But, the prices have been nice...getting games that would normally be $59.99 for $19.99 or $19.99 for $4.99...

...Feels good, man.

Valve is a private company that kikes can't get their paws on.

I've not seen anyone bait this hard in years, nice work.

They're making too much money and want to disperse it to devs, it doesn't benefit the consumer only the creators

Wrong, most microtransactions on consoles are bought by Eurotards and Americans, for Fifa and Fortnite/NBA respectively.
Face it m8, your platform is propped up by just as much meaningless F2P shit and microtransactions as PC, even moreso in fact, considering the biggest game on the planet makes most of its microtransaction money on consoles since most consolefags are zoomers.

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do chinks also fear skeletons?

>good prices
Ok so they agree they cant beat steam.
>Exclusives
Only game i would give a shit about said they are getting paid a fuck ton. Im not buying a game they are already getting paid for with the added bonus of installing spyware.
>revenue sharing
Im a consumer i could care less about that.
What are the chances they just spend too much money on buying people's loyalty and fuck themselves over?

>>What is Proton
>Valve's bid to take gain control of Linux gaming
You know Proton is open source right? Shit you don't need to run Steam to use it
>>What is Steam controller support
>trash
Yes because allowing people to use their Switch controllers on PC out of the box is terrible
>>What is Workshop
>killing the mod community
Substantiate your claims. If your 'proof' is the lack of modding compared to the mid 2000s, I could easily point to middleware like UE4, Unity and Gamemaker now allowing those that would have made mods to easily make games of their own
>>What is the new multiplayer API to allow for devs to set up dedicated servers through Valve
>because devs couldn't set up dedicated servers before?
They could, but this makes it exceedingly easy for them to do it

I'm going to keep buying on Steam because it's what all my games are on. I don't give a fuck about any of those reasons. I already pirated everything not available on steam before epic store

>No reviews
>No voice chat
>No community forums
>No workshop
>No screenshot sharing
>No wishlist
>No game tags
>No discovery queue
>No one-click online streaming
>No h-games
>No music category
>No software category
>No video category
>No linux support
>No mac support
>No regional pricing
>No payment option variety
>No marketplace
>No trading cards
>No trading
>No user profile customization
>No achievements
>No controller support
>No family sharing
>No overlay with browser
>No client skinning support
>No controller-friendly mode
>No local network gameplay streaming
>No cloud saves
>No backup feature
>No adding third party games to your list
>No third party key registration
>No reason to use Epic Store

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>Capcom makes an entirely new engine just for PC game
but they don't. Where did you get that bullshit from?

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>per game controller config that supports every major console controller and lets users use other peoples configs with the press of a button
>trash
>thinking workshop kills any lewd modding

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>Piracy is a service problem.

Their entire original selling point was the innate convenience of digital distribution, compared to physical copies. The absurd sales came a bit later, and which of the two did more for them is debatable. Now time has caught up and there are competitors offering the same convenience, and Valves absurd sales have long since tempered.

>Valve's bid to take gain control of Linux gaming
Those fiends at Valve, trying to make playing games on linux easy and convenient using open source software
Those monsters

too bad the store is barren with only a few exclusives and not a lot of regular pc games

>EPIC’s games are exclusive
>You data isnt, because it gets distributed to Chinese

>Halo coming to Steam
>Dwarf Fortress coming to Steam
>Epic Game Store confirmed spyware
Valve won (again).

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>and there are competitors offering the same convenience
Where's the modding and controller support convenience?

>You know Proton is open source right? Shit you don't need to run Steam to use it
Android is open source. You don't need Google services to run it.

the only thing workshop killed is Gmod. Pretty easily explains why most DarkRP servers are run by dumb kids with their friends as mods.

>Where did you get that bullshit from?
The developers of the game.

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>competitors offering the same convenience
We're not talking about the Epic store then

pcbro

do you even read what you post before posting?

>muh 30% cut
steam is not just a storefront, they provide a dozen other things your cuckold lemonade stand will never have

>The games media parades around Epic as if they're some sort of underdog when they likely make more money than Valve with Fortnite and UE4 revenue

I don't get it

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>killed gmod
I miss gmod tower but tower unite is much better as a result of that.

like not being China

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The media always defends the side the players are against. Easy butthurt hits

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>Now time has caught up and there are competitors offering the same convenience
How delusional can you get?

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That's one of the devs behind DMCV, which runs on, say it with me user-san, THE RE2 ENGINE.
And it was developed alongside the console version.
Which means they spent dev time and resources on making sure their PC version wasn't a console to PC port.
Saying "they made a new engine for PC" was dishonest, but effectively making two games is still impressive dedication for a market that, as you say, devs don't care about..

Valve was the real underdog getting steam to where it is today. Valve didn't literally pay people hundreds of thousands of dollars just to have people put their games there.

Ah, thought I heard some stuff about some person that did a revival of it. Like, in the sense of Maplestory private servers and that kind of stuff

brave skeleton protesting against winnie pooh

Are there real ebin store fags or most of them are shills?

i feel no guilt pirating an early access game, that would be like paying for a demo

It's still a console game designed for console.
Average 12 year old today has no idea what PC games even are.

>Buy game on steam
>Pirate game if it's ony on Epic
Nice leverage faggot

>Valve was the real underdog

LOL

>literally spend time and money for the sole purpose of creating a game from the ground-up for PC
>"duuhhhhh it's a console game"

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Does anyone actually give a fuck about the Ebin Games Store

Every retarded little company is going to have it's own version of EA Origin, it's going to suck balls

Then we'll just pirate them tho?
What is this guy even thinking?

>displace
nobody wants you to fucking displace them retard. competition and displacement are different things
>exclusives
fuck off back to consoles. exclusives have made me adopt exactly zero (0) launchers so far.
>good prices and better revenue sharing
I will suck a million dicks if these two points are meaningfully delivered on simultaneously.

>Actually falling for their marketing nosnse
They have 500 people working on the console version and 20 people working on the pc version. The design is 100% for TVs and controllers with no regards given to PCs.

Even on PC the target audience is assholes who grew up with consoles and only bought a PeeCee because of muh Steam sales and muh graphics

>The fact that you never see them seems to be irrelevant.

If you spend any actual time using the search feature, you see them constantly. I know I do.

>chink company practicing dumping yet again

they unironically were zoomer brainlet

Why not just pirate it now and pay for it later on your platform of choice? I don't think any reasonable human being would fault you for that.

"exclusives" for different pc game stores are fucking stupid and only encourage people to buy VPNs and pirate everything. Im sure as shit not bloating my pc with 20 different stores just because they all have a few games i want.

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>complain about Microsoft walled garden exclusivity
>do the same thing on your own store
Is Tim the biggest hypocrite of all time?

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gamingbolt.com/monster-hunter-worlds-second-biggest-platform-is-pc-capcom-reveals
Capcom loves PC
Get over it
I'm sorry you bought into the planned obsolescence, but it happens, just move on

>HURR DURR FORTNITE ZOOMERS WILL BE EBIN STORE'S CONSUMERS
>proceeds to steal your data and your friend list
Explain this shit to me. I thought zoomers are the future for ebin.

the only reason anyone started using steam is because it was required to play half life 2 and everyone was pissed about it at the time

>the target audience is people that play video games on their pcs
o rly

>good prices
I'm fucking waiting

Are these threads made by actual shills or just autists looking for easy (you)s

It's good prices for devs since they get paid upfront regardless they made shit or nice game.

zoomers are notoriously stupid when it comes to data protection, hit em fast and sell that stuff before someone realises that minors are being exploited and sues the fuck out of Epic

>buying on DRM'd stores
DRM-Free Master Race.

epic has sunk millions into their shitfront through shills and exclusivity deals that make sure the devs profit even if they don't sell one (1) copy

This thread reminded me to start this.
How is the game, by the way?

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engadget.com/2019/01/25/facebook-underage-credit-card-use

An example, Facebook knew kids were using their parents credit card but didn't care and pushed for more profit.

Where do I torrents nowadays?
Also the game is shit

>No, I remember using it because it was the DRM for HL1 and CS
That's not how it worked, it was HL2 and CSS that required it. HL, CS, CS:CZ all had dedicated servers, though I'm pretty sure that late in CS:CZ life cycle they rolled steam out as a platform for updating.

Fucking die epicchinks

Tiananmen Square

The Republic of China Taiwan

Look for a pirate proxy, they never fail me.

>Download ESO off the official website
>85gb
>Download ESO off Steam
>155gb

lol, Tim thinks Steam only sells Valve games, and that his Epic store is the only one selling from multiple publishers. The dude is a fucking moron.

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Source?

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>bethesda
YIKES

why even bother parroting shit from a decade ago?
capcom says they're very happy with their pc sales, dragon's dogma, mhw, re2 sold over a million and dmc5 is still a top seller with higher peak playercount than re2
sega continuous support, almost all of bamco games nowadays get a pc release (some of which are even skipping xbox releases like the recent god eater 3), one of the guys behind tales of says pc sales are good, fromsoft game sell exceedingly well
i could go on but why bother, keep believing whatever you want to believe

Has anything fishy about the BethesdaNet or whatever they call it been found?

I just found out Rage 2 is exclusively tied to that and it looks like Doom Eternal will be too, which is a bummer.

It' pretty much one dude.

>what is GOG, GMG, GamersGate, Humble Bundle, itch.io, Microsoft store, Zoom Platform and so on
Origin sells non EA games AFAIK.

Like?

I just remember that it was easier to manage keys when Steam came around because I would lose my WON ids frequently between computers. That, and the CD-Keys for Counter-Strike that I took from Walmart, because they kept putting on the front of the fucking case, were all for Steam.

origin.com/mex/en-us/store/witcher/the-witcher-wild-hunt

Huh.

Fucking hell, I think I just came to an awkward realization.

>Steam offering Valve games, acts like Epic having multiple publishers is some new breakthrough
>Seems confused as to why people think the Epic Launcher should have features that are basically standard at this point, like reviews.
>Dragging his feet on implementing them like it's hard when they just need to fucking copy Valve
>Literally calls himself the champion of PC gaming, as if it's still dead like it was before Steam really kicked in and got it back on it's feet
>Shills occasionally argue that Steam didn't have all it's features on launch, with the obvious counterargument that Epic isn't competing against Steam 15 years ago.

And then it hits me: Time Sweeney actually think Epic is competing against Steam from 15 years ago, or at least thinks they haven't changed at all. I don't know if the guy has amnesia or has been in a fucking coma for the last decade and a half, but I just can't see how the fuck anything he says makes sense otherwise.

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People keep saying stuff like 'how is epic going to gain a market share without exclusives' who gives a fuck if they do? Why does steam NEED to be displaced, they've near enough had a monopoly for years and they've never really leveraged that power in a negative way.

Why should I give a fuck if Epic can't make more money with Steam in the way?

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I refuse to support subhuman chinks that rule epic.

I wonder how accurate this is

Kill yourselves, bugmen

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Sounds spot-on, user. He probably used it to play Half-Life 2 a decade and a half ago, then stopped using it in favor of consoles. Now, he thinks what it was back then, is still what it is today.

JUST

Thing is, Valve has tried to leverage their power before (paid mods). The difference is that it only tookta couple days for Valve to back off from their position and it's never been revisited again. I don't have faith that Epic would do the same in Valve's position

This makes sense to me as well, seeing how the only thing that's changed with the Epic Launcher since I first used it is that it's Black instead of white/gray.

only that part about parsing steam files is accurate the rest is normal

The really story is they're copying your steam local data, which includes all your friends, games and when you've played them, when you've received messages, router you used to login, fucking login tokens, etc, etc, every single time you open their launcher. It's a lot more than just finding friends for Fortnite, as they could just use the api that.

>Epic introduces paid mods
>no forums to complain on
>no reviews unless they are ''dev'' approved
>can now easily just wait until the controversy blows over

Like you said they tried something and backed off, leveraging their power as a monopoly would have just been saying fuck you deal with it. I'm not saying they've never done anything greedy I'm saying they've never exploited their mass market share when they easily could have.

Does that have anything to do with patches/expansions, or does the Steam version just not do compression?

>this is consolecuck tier autism

This isn't anything new. We've had PC games exclusive to specific storefronts for years. But they can still be played on any PC.
So you're wrong.

we never had storefronts buying 3rd party games as exclusives
that is consoletier bullshit

Not even that. Most console exclusives are published by the console manufacturer.

Third party games the storefront had no hand in developing and first party games are completely different things

Christ Unreal 4 sucks. How anything gets made in it I don't know.

>Most popular modern engine
>Sucks

Wrong

>better revenue sharing
>a good thing
Why? They're gonna to try and milk you with season passes and dlc no matter what share they're getting. It's good because you're little cuck with a fat boy puss, yes?

Epic is pulling shady shit that only benefits their circle. This is them wanting more money, nothing more.

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The funny thing is DLC on the ebin store barely works. Most games are missing the DLC they have on other stores/platforms aside from Darksiders.

KEK don't you need uplay for that?

This is what annoys the shit out of me. Epic aren't just trying to kill Steam. They're trying to kill sites like humble

Holy shit how wrong can you be? Cs 1.6 required steam, people didn't really change from 1.5 until they closed the WON server list.

>Good prices
Would be good if they actually did offer better prices then
>better revenue sharing
Only relevant for the devs, consumers don't give a shit about this
>exclusives
You mean being anti-consumer?

uplay is not a third party store

>Got DMC 5 for $45 and Sekiro for $50 at GMG
>If Sweeney had his way, I'd have to pay $60 at launch or wait until the one or two times a year the games go on sale instead of sales every other week
While I think games being exclusive to the Epic client is garbage, trying to kill 3rd party key sites is what pisses me off the most.

>epic store
>sales

Yeah, but you could still buy keys for it from keysites. With Epic on board that isn't possible anymore.

>he doesn't know

>Most popular modern engine
>there are "people" who really believe this

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I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they will eventually have sales. I was mulling on buying The Division 2 before it got pulled from 3rd party sites, but Epic and Ubisoft made it easy for me to wait. At least Uplay has constant sales (the new Far Cry is already 50% off and it has been out only a month).

So no matter what it's more expensive on Epic's store in addition to the client selling your information to the Chinese government? Remind me again why I shouldn't just buy the game on Uplay instead rather than hopping through the extra hoop of buying it on Epic, especially since Uplay is needed either way to play it.

Sweeney has outright said they won't be having sales on the Epic store
You're not giving them the benefit of the doubt by assuming he's lying

>I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they will eventually have sales.

Don't. People who work for Epic have said they don't want to have sales as often as Steam

Well shit, I didn't know that. I stand corrected.

Yet another reason to hate them.

>this is consolecuck tier autism that should have you hanged

Steam has exclusives. Blizzard has exclusives. GOG has exclusives. Origin has exclusives. U-Play has exclusives.

Exclusives are not only a gaming thing either. Music store and streaming services, Video Streaming services, even Walmart have exclusives.

It's called differentiation. If every store is going to be exactly the same, might as well have one socialist government run monopoly. Is that what you want?

Fuck off, Gandhi.

No one wants to use the shitty Epic store and no one is using it you cuck. If a game comes out on epic exclusive I'll pirate it, there's no leverage or business incentives here.

Also, developers are whiny little bitches and I'll always support the company that gives them less money. Stay mad, cock-sucker.

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>Remember how everyone started using Steam because it was such good service
yes, because it was the only one in existence, so it was the very best there was.
still is, get fucked.

REMINDER: Epic obtains their exclusives by offering devs a minimum guaranteed sales amount. This means that if the game does not sell as much as promised then Epic will pay them the difference.
In other words you can pirate any Epic exclusives and the devs will still get the money.

Didn't we have this exact thread yesterday

Do you even have to worry about piracy with Epic exclusive games? If they get no money they can just run back to Epic and beg for some pocket change

It's literally the most overrated engine on the market right now.

>Steam has exclusives
>GOG has exclusives
Neither of these companies paid third party devs for exclusivity
>Blizzard has exclusives. Origin has exclusives. U-Play has exclusives.
Those are all first party games

exactly. I'm only using Epic for the free games but now I'm uninstalling it due to the spyware shit

Lifetime moralfag who's never pirated a game in his life here.

This...kinda makes sense.

>Options
good
>bribing people to be on your platform
Bad. 100% of companies that do this are scummy, anti-consumer trash

They're still exclusives, whether first party, second or third party.

As a consumer, I don't give a rat's ass about exclusives or (((revenue sharing))). Just put my damn games on the steam store (you know, the one that I've been using for 10 years now) so I can buy my games from some chink store for $1.75. Anyone who isn't in support of this is a chinese bootlicker or an epic shill.

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Good, a developer made hole in fucking Wang Po's pocket is fine with me. They're still going to be poor, self-pitying faggots and I'll play whatever the fuck I want.

honestly, the main area where Epic fucked up is the removal of user reviews.
in a time of videogame """""journalists""""" who basically only rate games on how many diversity points it got or how much the developer paid them, user reviews are pretty much the only way to get a decent idea of weather you like a game or not.
their model was first and foremost aimed at pandering to developers. sure, the developers getting a bigger sales percentage is something I can get behind, but this "hey guys, just have your games exclusive to us, the only reviews visible will be the Metacritic reviews you bought!" shit can go fuck itself

>Even the moralfags don't have to worry about piracy anymore
Thanks Epic.

Nobody is using your shitty service, Epic. Fuck off.

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It's almost as if you're purposefully pretending to not understand what people are pissed about

Too bad they havent doing much with the good prices part, the part that actually attracts people to buy shit from them.

Not moneyhatted ones.

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You mean Tencent

>M-m-moneyhat

Why do Valve drones act like Epic put a gun to the devs heads?

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Because they did, and there's countless examples out there backing it up. The real question is, why do Epic drones act like this evidence does not exist?

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and just like that, you lost the argument and went with NO U

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CHINA FOR CHINESECHINA FOR CHINESECHINA FOR CHINESECHINA FOR CHINESECHINA FOR CHINESECHINA FOR CHINESECHINA FOR CHINESECHINA FOR CHINESECHINA FOR CHINESECHINA FOR CHINESECHINA FOR CHINESECHINA FOR CHINESECHINA FOR CHINESE

holy shit you alright?

>Because they did, and there's countless examples out there backing it up

When, where, who?

>and just like that, you lost the argument

*tips fedora mlady*

Twitter tier response my dude

Winnie the Pooh=Xi Jinping *dabs on Steam drone*

HURRR DURRRR WAT IS FIRST MOVER ADVANTAGE I'M SO FUCKING RETARDED A HRUF DURF DURFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

I won't switch from steam because most of my games are there already.
Epic doesn't really have anything to offer me.

Plus
>China.

Reason's why Epic and its store are shit
>No cloud saves
>Only basic controller support
>No modding platform
>Ironically, actual Chinese customers can't buy games on Epic's store
>No Linux support whatsoever
>No free key generation for publishers to sell to third-party distributors which will result in competing prices (and it won't ever happen given that someone directly asked Tim about this and he dodged the answer)
>Scrapes your Steam data without your permission (which is a violation of GDPR) and claims that it's for if you ever want to link friends lists even though Epic takes all of your games played data as well as your wishlist too (and other things)
>Instead of using its vast Fortnite money to directly fund new studios and produce new games that wouldn't have existed otherwise, Epic moneyhats already existing games to take them away from other storefronts

Nobody can realistically defend the garbage Epic is trying to pull

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>people would buy in store where the games are cheaper.
If this was true, retards wouldn't be buying from anywhere but G2A and similar sites.

Paid shills say it's good for us somehow only people who benefit from EGS are the publishers.

youtu.be/YsgcwpZLUhg?t=1054

Game prices remain the same on both steam and the EGS.

Why do you try to lie what Epic actually does: pays off the publisher. The devs for Metro Exodus wanted their game to be released on Steam.

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Can you make an username called Tianamen Square Massacre on the chink store?

You realise most of the devs on Epic Store are self published indies, right?

Only the Metro Exodus example is the only thing you could possibly say was a negative deal in regards to the devs

The Phoenix Point devs went to Epic, the rest, like the Satisfactory devs or the Shakedown Hawaii guy, were offered and took it

But how does it benefit us the higher rev cut I don't see their games costing less fucking shill somewhere else.

Metro Exodus and WWZ are cheaper

>*in the US
>*if you're a moron who doesn't buy from sites like GMG and Fanatical

I buy indies from fanatical in bundles... but do you honestly think devs make a lot from that?

Sorry not everyone lives there fucking retard plus games on the epic store cost more in some areas how is this a good thing for consumers overall?

I'm not talking about the bundles, I'm talking about pre-order discounts before launch that can commonly have $60 titles at $45 on a place like GMG. That's cheaper than the Epic Game Store

found the Chinaman

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>You realise most of the devs on Epic Store are self published indies, right?
Yes. While I was kinda looking forward to that Solar Ash Kingdom up until I've read how Zoe Quinn is involved.
>Only the Metro Exodus example is the only thing you could possibly say was a negative deal in regards to the devs
And they weren't going to stop at Metro Exodus.. They're tried to get Cyberpunk 2077 to be a store exclusive. Epic is focused not only money hatting self published indies, they're gunning for whatever the top wishlisted games as well. Will not be surprised to read a Gematsu article how Shenmue 3 will be a Epic store exclusive. They're so desperate to topple steam that they're probably crafting a contract to where Square Enix will get charged 3% on the Unreal Engine license if they make their game a permanent exclusive.

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If a game comes out on steam I get it on steam
If a game comes out on the fortnite launcher I get it on pirate bay

Go to a semi popular title look at the reviews there steam key activation its higher then i thought. Doom 2016 it's nearly half/half.

Hey I remember you from the last thread, you were pretty based

But as Muhammad Ali once said, "I ain't got no quarrel with them Epic Store" and I don't understand most peoples.

The devs/publishers get paid even if you pirate unironic isn't it?

>No reviews
thats a feature though! that way developers can live in their hugbox forums where only positive things about their games are said while ignoring why the game isnt selling!

>>No reviews

Reminder that Battle.net, Humble Bundle, Fanatical, Origin, Bethesda Launcher or uPlay don't have user reviews either.

>pc
>current year
>physical copies

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Keep seething you braindead Valve fanboy.

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>I have absolutely no faith in the quality of my service so I HAVE to resort to slimy exclusivity deals to make shit work.

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ik, completely removes the moral argument to pay for games when Chairman Mao is willing to foot the bill

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IT JUST ISN'T FUCKING FAIR

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FUCK 4A
FUCK DEEP SILVER
FUCK EPIC GAMES
GOD DAMNIT I HATE THOSE GUYS

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>battle.net
>literally only ten games everyone already knows whether they're good or not
>Humble Bundle/Fanatical
>fucking bundle sites
>most HB originals included in monthly plan
>not that anyone cares about HB originals anyway lol
>Origin
>EA shit everyone knows and hates
dont know shit about bethesda launcher or uplay, but my experience with uplay is you need an account to play jewbisoft games that you can buy on steam anyways

We are the PC Gamers.
We swear by Valve.
We do not tolerate competition.

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>all shills have are wojacks

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Tell us about winnie the tiannamen taiwanese square again, Steam drone. That's so original.

How's that chink rootkit treating you?

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all you have is anti chinese racism jokes.

steam is easy to use, if there's something I really want to play that's not on steam I'll just use gog or pirate. ez

THEY'RE PERSECUTING US!

HOW IS THIS FAIR? WE THE GAMERS DESERVE BETTER!

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VAC is also a rootkit, my dude.

What about this?:

It's spyware at worst and a joke compared to the fortnight launcher

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I don't even have a dog in this fight, I just think it's funny that people here are so creatively bankrupt all they have is fucking wojacks and pepes.

there's a reason people don't trust the chinese

Do how many shills do you guys think Epic pays? I mean I know most of the epic defenders in these threads are probably mostly shitposters or just large anti-valve autists but I have seen some epic apologists defend the company so vehemently with the same images. I also see the same thing with gaming journalists, who seem to be very keen to paint a pro-epic narrative. It's amazing how much they try to downplay stuff like epic's spyware.

nah you just jealous cause your to stupid to get in the bants.

Where did the DRM touch you, user

Mainland Chinese literally aren't people, user.

I have to paint a pro-epic image because Yea Forums won't even give them a chance because they're groomed Valve drones who won't give true competition a chance

9/11 Twin Towers Attack

I assume he was VAC banned or something which created an autistic hatred toward Valve. I saw the same exact posts and images last thread

>True competition
True competition is Gog. This is just a sick joke forced by exclusive deals in comparison.

>can't be creative enough to make your own jokes
>rehash everything like the chinese themselves and take credit as your own creativeness
It's like poetry, it rhymes.

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>Apologists
They're mostly idiots that hear something from a big youtuber or outlet talking about how epic's really good or they're fortnight addicts that don't think their favorite company could do anything wrong
>Journos
Disregard pretty much everything they say, it's either paid, political or just straight up petty bullshit. You'd be mad with impotent rage too if you studied a worthless degree and had to take a job talking about something you hate constantly.

Steam is now a social media platform
Epic is for playing fucking video games

>True competition is Gog.

GoG has been in it for 10 years and are fucking dead.

gog.com/news/conclusion_of_the_bfair_price_packageb_program

>release a store front to compete with the biggest one on the market
>not even a third of the features and nowhere near enough product to even begin to compete
yeah valves had years to get to where they are, but when you want to compete with something that well established, you do your fucking research and release a comparable product from the start, not 6 months to years later
epic have no one but themselves to blame

>Epic is for selling your data for easy money
ftfy

I bought stalker on GoG, along with a ton of other titles.
Mostly to share with my slav friends that surprisingly never actually played it

Yeah, I'm sure it's because people are valve drones that Yea Forums doesn't give Epic a chance and not because Epic doesn't actually compete but buys exclusives, installs spyware on your computer, and harms the entire pc eco-system with their bullshit, not just steam. Try harder yang

This. If anything I'm a GoG user.

Actually I'm just laughing at idiots like yourself for being so fiercely loyal to a corporation like Valve.

And Steam was shit at release - you're just too young to remember how bad it was

Steam's best features were added literally JUST last year.

Meanwhile Epic is adding them this year

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>Data collection platform exists to bring you games
First rule of software development, if it's free or super cheap it's not because they wanna give you something out of the goodness of their hearts

>Meanwhile Epic is adding them this year
They're also adding malware and backdoors to my desktop

>Being this paranoid

Besides, you Valve fags claim all the exclusives they buy are bad anyway - what does it matter? (I saw some people here claim Shakedown Hawaii is bad - the fuck is wrong with Yea Forums?)

>Hating Epic means I am loyal to Valve
It's like thats the only argument they have. Although I have to admit, even though I don't agree with some of the things Valve have done, Epic made me realize that there are a lot worse companies to be the market leader.

>Being this paranoid
>t-tinfoil hats!
see

>And Steam was shit at release - you're just too young to remember how bad it was
okay i'll give you that, i started using steam back in like 08 and i was a sophomore in high school when the orange box came out, but lets not forget that epics just copying what valve took years to come up with and implement. until epic comes up with a feature valve has yet to think of, they're just aping what steam does
also epics straight up spying on you without your consent, they can get fucked

Oof, Chang is losing it.

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>steam queers bickering with epic shits like console kiddies and their little "wars"
No, please continue. It amuses me

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Why didn't Epic have any of those features day 1? If you want to compete with something, you should at least be on the same level as them.

>until epic comes up with a feature valve has yet to think of, they're just aping what steam does

Seriously, realistically, what could Epic Store do? Best I can figure is online co-op for local co-op only games done through a streaming service akin to PS4

No, it's pretty obvious you're a Valve fanboy.
This shit actually means something in console wars because certain games are locked behind $400+ hardware. With Epic, it's just a 2 minute free download of another launcher, and idiots like you are going berserk, all because you're extremely loyal to Valve.

>mfw i'd expect this kind of shit out of EA's launcher

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>Implying some of the people in this thread aren't GOG users or men of the high seas

I think that's probably true. Remember that Epic abandoned PC gaming back when they made Gears of War exclusive to the 360. They even called all pc gamers pirates and that the industry was dead. They probably came back and think the industry hasn't changed since they left. In any case fuck Sweeny.

you should be hanged.
KEK.

Why didn't Steam support Linux or Macs at launch? Shit like that takes time to develop as well as testing by users that can report bugs

And what I meant to add is that the exclusives make up for the lack of features.

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>With Epic, it's just a 2 minute free download of another launcher
>and more expensive games
>and no cloud saves
>and no high level controller support
>and no linux support
>and no modding platform

>Seriously, realistically, what could Epic Store do?
not buy out games as exclusive
not keep credit card data in insecure locations
not sell my data to Chinese "Marketing" frims

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Yeah, I just don't like more expensive games and no keys, no cloud saves or linux support, and a launcher datamining me without permission. It's simply because I'm a valve fanboy as you just assume. Don't you have somewhere else to be Chang?

>and more expensive games
False
>and no cloud saves
Meme
>and no high level controller support
Also a meme
>and no linux support
Wew that's a meme if I've ev-
>and no modding platform
Well thanks for the meme 4x4, I guess?

>not buy out games as exclusive

Except this is what's keeping them relevant - they'd be like GoG without exclusives aka not competition

You wish, Wojak falseflagger.

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Steam literally does the same shit. Sounds like your forgetting TF2 was one of the first games to popularize the shitty key/crate system. Valve dosent give a fuck about its players either, only money.

>without exclusives

How about instead of funneling what's probably hundreds of millions overall in Fortnite money towards buying out exclusivity of already developed games Epic instead puts that money towards the creation of new games that wouldn't have existed otherwise?

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>Except this is what's keeping them relevant
Then it should die as the market clearly has no need for it, if the only reason it still exists is because of shady practice then I don't see a reason it should continue to exist

>Can't actually refute anything so just calls it a meme

>Remember how everyone started using Steam because it was such good service?
steam was memed into relevance by having its initial competition be physical ownership that was kneecapped by securom, tages, starforce, GFWL DRM. Then it began to push its popularity with at the time good sales, the idea of getting last years biggest games for $2.48 a piece was really appealing and it helped the platform explode. There was always a bit of paranoia over Steam not really granting you ownership, all your purchases were ethereal and reliant on the approval of a server on the West Coast to allow you to play the shit you spent money on. Then the 2012 EULA change happened, sales started getting shittier and shittier, and support from Valve has been stagnant and the experience a slow downward spiral.

The average PC gamer is far worse than any console gamer, who can stil proudly own the games they buy.

Steam asks if it can look at your hardware for hardware surveys
Epic lodges itself into your system like a tumor and pumps all your info to the honorable chairman without asking

>Then it should die as the market clearly has no need for it

Oops

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Lmao, look at how much of a fucking bitch you are. Back in my day, we had none of that shit, just a CD that lets you play the game.

Goddamn you zoomers are so hilariously stupid.

Epic can't do that because like their Chinese masters they can't create anything original. Even Fortnite's BR was just them trying to cash in on PUBG

>or linux support
You don't use Linux, idiot. This is just another vein attempt to dig up reasons to justify your anger at Epic, and loyalty to Valve.

I have a couple of questions for anyone knowledgeable on this kind of stuff. I went ahead and installed Epic & Steam on a virtual machine to see how they interact and noticed a couple of weird things. Right off the bat Epic sends a billion times more packets than Steam, it's constantly sending packets while Steam seems to slow down while idle. Also, while the localconfig.vdf file is what everyone is talking about, is there any good reason for Epic to be rooting through my entire userdata folder when localconfig.vdf is always in the same place? I see it querying in a bunch of different folders, which include server history, settings, other configs. Literally everything about this launcher looks fishy. Even how often is sends telemetry data back is weird, it seems to phone to the usage data server when I wishlist specific games on Steam. usually unreleased and early access

GOG did had temporary exclusivities on System Shock 2 and Diablo.

but BRs are shit regardless of who's making them, there's also clearly a market for them as opposed to yet another launcher.

So do you have any actual arguments besides calling people Valve shills and dismissing Epic's lack of features as though it were nothing?

Yeah Diablo is exclusive to GoG and not on Steam, but it's totally okay in the minds of the Steam drone because they don't view GoG as competition

>developers who had no contacts left who'll return their calls all went to kickstarter to ask fanboys for money years back
>most kickstarters are late/vaporware, ones that come out are usually either meh or outright shitty and lacking numerous promised features (Planescape: Nostalgiabait) (some, like Scam Citizen, are never actually going to release)
>Epic Games begins contacting kickstarters nearing completion and sniping them by paying for bribes for exclusivity even though they were funded by fans
>gain greater appreciation of how publishers won't deal with certain sleazy devs anymore and now they've burned their last bridge, the fanboy bridge

>and dismissing Epic's lack of features as though it were nothing?

Not him, but there's a roadmap of features I've shown you and they'll be adding within the year that'll make it a good store.

And you won't have the stockpile of free games when EGS becomes a good service

People started using steam for convenience after a while once they fixed shit and added features consumers wanted, and originally just to play steams own games. Also for the lowest sales available almost anywhere.
Trying to pretend that's the same as paying completely unrelated devs to not have their game available anywhere else is retarded. Epic are welcome to keep their own dev studios games on their store exclusively and nobody will complain.

False equivalent, it isn't like Blizzard promised that it would come out on steam before it was released and then retracted it and put it solely on GoG. Epic did this with Phoenix Point and Metro, both.

yeah, i'm not sure why this didn't occur to me before, but valve was the big holdout for PC when every other piggu was riding the xbox bandwagon. users repaid valve's loyalty in kind. that's actually revelatory in its simplicity. in this light, it seems fair enough for the others to keep paying their 30% traitor tax if they want the pcbux again

Enjoy your chink botnet

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>You don't use Linux, idiot.
I use Debian on my laptop and CentOS on my server which I both play and host for games on.
Only retards reject how essential linux is to our modern world

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Yeah except epic doesnt have any of those 3 things
Steam continues to be the most convenient and overall most affordable choice
I'm no fan of Valve's since they stopped making games but I dont align myself with corporations like a good little piggy cuck and that includes aligning myself needlessly against them under the flag of some kind of rivalry.
Steam is far and away objectively the best service, and steam will continue to pull in the most revenue. Companies like EA and Epic can shittalk it all they want but it doesnt mean shit while their own stores are the fucking garbage that they are.

See: And when Epic supports Linux?

I mean it wouldn't surprise me if Epic was taking and analyzing everyone's Steam data so Epic could know what kinds of games to try and moneyhat

You mean the roadmap that includes adding features as basic as a shopping cart? You mean the roadmap that doesn't address at all the issues of exclusivity and spyware which dominate most people's complaints? You mean the features that still aren't in the Epic Store right now? No, I won't stockpile free games for the store you're shilling because I pirated them and Epic even footed the bill.

>And you won't have the stockpile of free games when EGS becomes a good service

You could just fucking pirate them if they were free giveaways. They're all single-player games anyways

I wonder how sales are doing on Epic store. Havent heard a peep about them

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And when they start giving out multiplayer games?

that was 2003, when linux was nothing more than a system designed for servers that could be used as a desktop environment, but this isn't 2003 and releasing software in 2019 that isn't compatible with linux at launch is akin to releasing IOS exclusive products

Yes they would, because g2a whilst slightly cheaper, offers less guarantee and less security of purchase, which also factors into the price the consumer is willing to pay.
For an extra dollar or two they're quite happy to get more security and guarantee their purchase will work.

Then we're talking right now in hypotheticals that haven't happened and may not ever happen, which is moronic

>Valve shills
>shills
Who's calling you a shill, idiot?

You're a loyalist. You're fiercely loyal to Valve, a literal billion dollar corporation.

I miss times when blatant spyware was illegal

If GDC passes and Epic doesn't say a word about sales figures on their storefront then I think we can conclude they're all selling like shit.

Lmao, you probably got that off reddit or something. You don't even know what CentOS is for, moron.

Nobody uses these in the same way they use steam. Battle.net is literally a fucking wow launcher, people only use humble for cheap shit that's been out for ages in bundles, they don't use a launcher and know the quality of the games already. Fanatical I'm p sure is the same. Nobody uses origin or bethesdas shit, don't fool yourself. And uplay sell most of their shit on steam, it's not a launcher anyone uses by itself or buys things through, it's just a steam purchase with an extra layer of fucking drm ubisoft dump on it.

they will absolutely present stuff at GDC. Epic has no stake in customers believing the store is good or not, because even if they sold well people will say "but it would have sold more on Steam". but GDC will be where they convince publishers that they can be profitable on the platform

Probs more than 300 copies

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I've been thinking about it a lot the past couple of days and I think the problem is Windows and its administrator privileges. One of the greatest advantages of Linux is that the separation of root and user with commands. On Windows, pretty much every user is always Admin and running every single thing as administrator. Developers took this to their advantage and have access to everything int he file system all the time because Windows security is shit

>they will absolutely present stuff at GDC.

Both of Epic's planned presentations at GDC are about Unreal Engine 4

>good prices
...But the games on epic are all more expensive than their counterparts on steam due to their additional payment processing fees. Does the CEO of the company literal not understand how much his products cost?

Yes, I'm a loyalist to a company I have not defended in any of my posts since I have just been criticizing Epic. I think you may be projecting who is the loyalist considering youre the done doing so much to defend epic.

So you're admitting you'll collect the free multiplayer games so you can play them online

I just wonder what game we... I mean they'll have to give away that's multiplayer...

If you're a consumer, you have very little reason to be upset. A game being on a different free digital platform is not a big deal.

If you're Valve, you have every reason to be extremely angry. Given how furious you are with Epic right now, it's a given you're fiercely loyal to Valve, no matter how much you try to deny it like the moron you are.

Some things will be announced during the Epic Games: State of Unreal talk (one of the special guests is the head of EGS), and there's a separate EGS Q&A panel with Sergey. They will go over some sales numbers along with the announcement of several new exclusives during the keynote. Source: insider info

They have one of the most popular multiplayer games in the world on their service for free, and people still aren't using Epic Store. Sorry, Tim

If he were still with us he'd be making weekly videos on the bullshit Epic's pulling, getting millions of views per video. Being the only goddamn person related to the industry with some pull who would call out bad practices on PC

Asscancer is the clear enemy of PC gaming

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CentOS is a server oriented distribution of linux that is made in the image of redhat.

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>If you're Valve, you have every reason to be extremely angry.

This. Anyone stressing over EGS is just a Valve drone and they've even admitted it

I can already hear the sweating from Steam fatasses

>Source: insider info
Fuck off

Tim paid his wife to pull the plug. The game was rigged from the start

it's fine to not believe me now but I want a guarantee that you'll make an apology thread on Wednesday

>work for Epic Games Store
>gamers are unpleasant aggressive assholes

I honestly love seeing shit like this. It's just the combination of stupidity, arrogance and lack of self-awareness in these people.

>People have little reason to be upset Epic locks third party games to their launcher
>People shouldn't complain when said launcher has no features and datamines you without permission.
>Epic buying up exclusives doesn't affect ofter services such as GoG and Humble
You need better arguments if you want me to buy into your shilling for Epic

Why does EGS worry you? You don't have to buy those games, yet you brag about how much you pirate, but then turn around and want to give money to GoG or Humble

Steam users are like atheists: They have no morals or consistent values, they just consume

>Epic locks third party games to their launcher
Haha stupid idiot. Third parties choose this you moron; Epic doesn't force them to accept, they just make them an offer.

Maybe those publishers would be less inclined if Valve, the company you're so loyal to, didn't take such a big fat cut from their sales. Alas, in your eyes, Valve can do no wrong. You swear by Valve, no matter what.

Yeah, real stupid and arrogant, except that's not actually what happened, what he said, or what anyone meant.
reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/b0os3p/day_when_rpcgaming_fucked_up/
Everyone is so fucking stupid that they believe anything just because someone put it in an image. You're the equivalent of thinking vaccines cause autism because Janet posted some shitty picture on Facebook. It's no wonder Russia and China are meddling in elections because it barely requires any effort at all to convince people of things they desperately want to be real.

>People shouldn't complain when said launcher has no features and datamines you without permission.
Hey dumbass, every single closed source software datamines you without permission.

that game would've been better as a real RPG instead of the gay trading card mechanics they used. I would recommend Thronebreaker for every aspect EXCEPT for the actual gameplay of Thronebreaker. And the GOG babbies whined how they wanted their gay fucking card game rather than a artistically-crafted narrative RPG.

>epic has already said that the bigger cut will only be temporary
>everyone shills this as the main point

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nice source

>the company you're so loyal to, didn't take such a big fat cut from their sales
But they're not moving to Epic because of sales cut, they're moving because Epic gave them a fat sack of cash

>Why does EGS worry you?
>When people have been answering this for the entire thread
How much do the Chinese pay you for the data mining?

and from what ive gathered from similar threads lately, the 30% valve takes is the industry standard, so how the fuck are people using it like its something only valve does?

>Oh dude they spy on you
>*uses Gmail or YouTube account and tells people to stop using Epic Store on Discord*

It's not even cash, it's stability. It's saying "if you don't sell X copies, we'll buy up any remaining copies to meet X". Some games like Satisfactory aren't even going to get a payout because they're meeting their expectations.

Because Valve doesn't earn their 30%?

bleedingcool.com/2018/03/16/nintendo-switch-sales-save-blossom-tales-devs-from-shutting-down/

>#NintendoSwitch community is a blessing! #BlossomTales is now a turnaround story: Humble indie dev @castlepixel can stay in business and continue making games. Love y’all! 3 months #Switch revenues surpass #Steam lifetime revenues 20 times!

When was the last time Valve saved an indie studio? 2009? 2010?

because the sales cut marketing angle was to appeal to emotion for game journalists who want to virtue signal about how much they care about the people making games. It's free publicity

>Some games like Satisfactory aren't even going to get a payout because they're meeting their expectations.
Interesting source on this claim. Also, cash is obviously stability so I don't understand why you're claiming I said something inaccurate

>Dude just says that exclusivity fucks over stores other than steam
>HURRR so that means you are a you pirate but why are you buying pn gog or humble
Literally drink bleach you retarded chink

Why do you assume I have a youtube or discord account? And really? Your only argument is because some other companies do it so its ok to?

>>Dude just says that exclusivity fucks over stores other than steam

99% of those stores feedback into Steam like Humble or Fanatical - so nice try

Fuck you buddy, I'm gonna sell you my car with no rubber tyres, no seats, no transmission, no engine and you're gonna like it.

Humble, GOG, and itch.io all have their own platforms for games. Humble will usually also give you a steam key unless its only available on Steam

Lol this many replies every time

Cars can't be patched digitally

I have to congratulate Yea Forums on a comparison dumber than food though

Fuck you buddy, I'm gonna sell you my car with no rubber tyres, no seats, no transmission, no engine and you're gonna like it. But don't worry, I might come over in maybe 6 months to fix some of it up. Oh yeah I also need your name, address, and SSN while you're at it.

>everyone having the same product lines and undercutting each other is a socialist government monopoly
lmao v is a bunch of retarded fucking teenagers.

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100% correct.
Exclusives is just a way to trick the consumer into accepting suboptimal software and hardware to play the game.

>steam users
People in general dont give a shit about morals. If a game is bad or they dont like it they wont play it.

It's gotten laggier for some reason, the last big chat/friendlist change really messed things up.

In the future I'll probably start buying games through a different service if it comes with a less bloated service.

Yes, actually.
Feel free to stop reposting your crap, thought.

>1 Post by this ID

It was. Now, most competition tries to reduce their cut, such as GOG.

That makes a lot of sense.

Based Chinese memetic kill agent poster stomping commies

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Define "earning your 30%"

>Because Valve doesn't earn their 30%?
>provides file hosting, version control and distribution in perpetuity
>also handles point of sales and minor marketing

because it was never about the 30%. It's really about the community Steam has created. Valve made a service that's too pro-consumer. Publishers and game journos don't particularly like how Steam has it's own review aggregator and a discussion board complaining about ports or how shitty the game is. Steam had block Steamspy because it was being used to bully CliffyB. Epic's promise to Publishers is not implement pro-consumer features that might detract from profit.

>Humble Bundle
Humble displays the user reviews from Steam though

>Don't mind me, just spying on your steam sales, wishlists, friend lists, and libraries

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>Release a game on a platform with no games aside from one mario and one zelda game
>It sells
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>I don't even have a dog in this fight
If you did Tim Sweeney would eat it

>Steam's best features were added literally JUST last year.
Steam has gotten worse in the last year, what are you talking about?

I sleep safer knowing that mister chinaman makes sure there's nothing wrong with my account

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Neither store did jack shit. An overly saturated store with better games to play vs. A console that sells on 1st party and portability will have higher sales due to less saturation and the down time between the 1st party exclusives.

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>Console exclusives are good despite being super inconvenient to the consumer!
>PC online store exclusives are bad despite not affecting the consumer at all!
Holy fuck only literal shills and jews hate the Epic store

At the cost of removing the Fair Pricing Program. Fucking Epic, it seems like its fucking over smaller stores more than Steam, it's like Walmart or Standard Oil when they started their tactics and drove out smaller producers. And worse yet prices aren't even getting better since they are the same, or even worse with no keys for Epic.

>Console exclusives are good
Since when?

>Cause it was a good service

Steam was absolute dogshit when it launched and people use it because of the simplicity of having all your shit just a few clicks away, steam if anything ruined PC gaming because it made it so easy that any retard could get into it.

Please name one person who said console exclusives are good. the only people who benefit from them are the literal children on this board who use them to wack off which toy they bought

>Steam's best features were added literally JUST last year.
Which features are you talking about

Before this thread is archived, just gonna say I hope steam gets completely BTFO into a glorified valve game launcher by EPIC once all the games transition over. It's what they deserve for allowing disgusting rapey H-games and reprehensible garbageware to infect the platform. Fuck valve, fuck gaben, get BTFO faggot. see ya later cunts.

and fuck gamers

This is the shittiest bait ever.

It also devalued games to an absurd degree as everyone just waits for sales to buy shit in bulk.

Then retards wonder why more developers are refusing to make shit only for PC.

I can actually agree with this. On the other hand, most games are left untouched.

I'd pay full price for games if they lasted me longer than a couple of hours.

the only thing he's displacing is that hairline lmao. when will hairlets learn

This. Epic wanting to counteract steam's "monopoly." If they cared for competition they would've let storefronts like GOG instead of taking games off from them just to keep them exclusive to themselves. This isn't other storefronts versus Steam. It's Epic versus everyone else.

>consumers saving money is a bad thing

>Please name one person who said console exclusives are good
>literal children on this board
You answered your own question. Retarded hebrews here simultaneously parade console exclusives and hate any competition to steam.

>Then retards wonder why more developers are refusing to make shit only for PC.
But that's not true? We are basically seeing a mini-golden age of great PC games come out because it's easier than ever to make and release a game.

New thread

Nobody makes threads like that except to false flag you retarded nigger.