Hideaki Itsuno Was Ready To Leave Capcom After DmC: Devil May Cry

True. I like to think that by keeping the "best parts" of DmC they meant evoking it through Vergil's doppelganger, and then immediately following it with a FUCK YOU that echos so hard it turns Nero's theme into wubstep. My sides left orbit that day.

>1st interview: "i really wanted to make DmC2"
>2nd interview: "i was ready to leave this shit after how horrible DmC was"
Is aging starting to hit him?

also to add to this reboots for VIDEO GAMES in general are really unnecessary too unless it's a very story driven game. Something like DMC or Ninja Gaiden or whatever doesn't need a reboot but maybe certain RPGS do if they're getting too clogged in the story department. But actions games don't need reboots, they just need to improve and refine what the previous games did which is why I would unironically say DMC5 is the best action game ever made. It took everything that worked in DMC3 and DMC4 and improved on it significantly

I think it's also how they handled 4SE, which is to say only giving him the team and time to create Vergil and nothing else (meaning they had to work their asses off to get Trish and Lady in too) while DmC:DE got a complete overhaul despite the obvious fact it was a failure. And Dragon's Dogma for that matter, Itsuno wanted to make it since before DMC2 and when he finally gets the chance they shaft his budget and make him consult on DmC at the same time, forcing him to make a much smaller game than he wanted, then as soon as Dark Arisen's done they immediately take it off him and get another department to shit out DDO. DmC's obviously a big part of it, but Capcom in general was fucking awful at that time. Thinking about it DMC5 would have been greenlit around four years ago, which would be around the time Capcom had their management reshuffle which put Takeuchi in charge of Dev 1. I wonder if Itsuno handing in his notice had anything to do with that?

>1st interview: "i really wanted to make DmC2"
Itsuno sounded very "Japanese passive aggressive" in that interview so I wouldn't take that statement too seriously

I assume its more that Itsuno didn't understand how underhanded and petty they were until someone explained how many jokes were made at the old series expense and after he found out he became more angry.

Theres also the fact that Itsuno/Capcom are bigger then NT and it would be bad PR to actively lash out at them

It's almost like when he made the first statement, he was in a position where he couldn't shit talk about a recent product that got a release. Note how Sega takes the piss out of Sonic 06 plenty but never mocks more recent games.

A lot of elements in DMC5 feel like Itsuno was looking at DmC and thought "I can do that but better"
>uses a unused Nero concept to make V his own character
>the final backdrop between Dante and Vergil is all white like DmC but is atop a giant demon tree instead of some generic rooftop
>Vergil even uses a doppleganger halfway through the fight but it's actually fun
>took the "Dante is a gay cowboy" jab and actually made it cool and fun
>Dante discovering more power in at his old home is a more hype and meaningful moment for his character
>"Not in a million years"
>FUCK YOU and flipping the bird are actually used in a good context and fits Nero's character

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>DmC was so bad
It wasn't though.

probably not til next month

>t. games journalist

There's no second interview where Itsuno says any of this, it comes from Reuben Langdon (mocap and voice of Dante and who founded the stunt company they've used since 3). Capcom has fairly strict policies about what can and can't be said, which is why no-one who still works for the company has ever said, "Yeah, DMC2 was a mistake." On the Dev1 podcast they were making jokes about which characters they were like and one of the guests started joking about Donte, and was immediately shut down by Matt. Capcom's entire PR policy when it comes to their own mistakes is just lying about them. You can bet Reuben's going to get in trouble for sharing this.

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>your chief asks you to direct a sequel to a famous action gamme
>you accept it
>finds out the game will come out in 4 months
>and the only thing that is complete is one (1) attack move

what do you do Yea Forums

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It really was though.

holy shit yellow flash didnt sperg out in that interview thank god
based, true, and mumkey pilled.
>You can bet Reuben's going to get in trouble for sharing this.
how do you punish the man who voices two of your most iconic characters?
also just asking a random lore question, so is it confirmed now that Dante's old house was in redgrave city and that's were he got his last name? the newspaper note in gallery made me wonder where the fuck it is since it does not really look like the city limits or whatever.

I remember reading one user's theory about why journalists were defending and why they still defend DmC
Essentially, journalists and industry people thought that since a Japanese-developed game series was being given to a Western developer that this meant Westerners could get more of a hold on what Japs did with games and other things. But when DmC got immediately shot down, they went into full "sniveling bootlicker" mode to try and get into good graces with the industry because they literally had no other opportunities for this
And when DMC5 got announced it basically opened old wounds and are just salty they never got to get what they wanted

>stinger was all they worked on
>it still fucking sucked

I hope this kills the ITSUNO LOVED DmC! posts, especially since that shit was froma mistranslated interview

I will never understand how DmC, a game where a man shoots a pregnant woman in the stomach and then headshots her and then justifies it by saying “I had to.” becomes so popular among the current crop of lefty games journalists.

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>mistranslated
try outright lie.

i'm convinced it's only one guy forcing that shit

they just viewed it as a new method of abortion, those types view kids as a waste anyway.

it's because
CAPITALISM BAD
INDUSTRY SUCCESSFUL MAN BAD
FOX NEWS BAD

The pregnant woman in question was fucking and impregnated by devil Donald Trump so that made it perfectly okay to them.

Reuben will be fine. He's made fun of DMC2 and DmC alongside Dan and Johnny at conventions in Q&As that have been recorded, especially that one that everyone likes to link to because it had Dan casually saying they were all coming back for 5 back in 2015.

>so is it confirmed now that Dante's old house was in redgrave city and that's were he got his last name?
I got the impression that more of the city was built around the manor since it would've been a few decades since Dante and Vergil left it and given what the Qliphoth tree did to most of the city it probably got moved and shifted around a lot. Also I noticed that when V, Nero and Dante all arrive to where the house was it was after they traveled a great distance: Nero and V when they fought Proto Angelo on the sliding stage and Dante when he was riding Cavaliere. It's possible it is near the city limits but there's enough ruins all around it to make it look like it's within the city

>how do you punish the man who voices two of your most iconic characters?
By not letting him voice them again. Reuben had to reaudition for Dante in DMC4 because all the suits said he was young Dante, not older Dante even though Reuben's age was closer to DMC4 Dante's by that point.

why does everyone finds the I'M NOT LETTING YOU DIE part cringe? i had fucking goosebumps that shit was hype

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They simply have zero integrity and will defend anything to the contrary of the fans. Especially if that thing has 2004-tier political satire.

they didnt play it
its about opposing the gamers that were mean to ninja theory, nothing to do with the content of the game

I know he'll be fine, I'm not suggesting he's gonna get blacklisted or anything, but they're definitely not going to be happy with him.

they never played up to that part of course, assuming they played it at all

DMC5 sold just as bad so he's probably leaving soon

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Yeah, right

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>sold more than RE2R
>LOL FLOP
desperate

>Really piss off the fanbase you just got back into your good graces

I don't think Capcom is that stupid.

>but they're definitely not going to be happy with him
eh I doubt it, he's pretty much the face of DMC along with Itsuno and Matt at this point and pretty much anyone of note involved with the series has taken a jab or disregarded DMC2 and DmC in their own way
Given how Capcom's been with a lot of their stuff lately they probably want to forget all those bad decisions even happened

>they probably want to forget all those bad decisions even happened
they're already doing that ever since they blamed Inafune for their mistakes without addressing him by name

>Reuben had to reaudition for Dante in DMC4 because all the suits said he was young Dante, not older Dante even though Reuben's age was closer to DMC4 Dante's by that point.
So? You do realize both DMC1 and 2 had different voice actors each and Reuben first appeared in 3 right? Of course he had to prove that he can pull off a little more gruff and lax older Dante in 4.

Right on the money. What people also don’t mention is that the story also gets completely lost halfway into the game due to the writing. Dante completely forgets he’s an angel as well as other characters too. One of his famous lines is “sometimes I hurt myself to see if I’m still human” when it’s fitmly established he’s a nephilim. When Vergil reveals this, angels are completely forgotten in the story. The writing for Sparda is also out of whack and even the developers constantly call Dante human and demon, despite otherwise.

DMC5 opened with 116,202 sales, RE2R with 252,848 (which was still SHAT ON by KH3)

It's a flop, Itsuno is getting the boot, DD2 never. Sorry!

it's always the animeposters

Taking sly jabs at DmC is nowhere near as bad as confirming that the company was in such a clusterfuck that one of their biggest directors wanted to leave. Especially when it's a Japanese company.

>he's pretty much the face of DMC along with Itsuno and Matt
where did Matt even come from, first time I heard of walker was during the press cycle to 5, is he new blood or just an old face never given airtime before?

lmao

BROTHERS IN THE DARK
FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE
DEVILS IN THE DARK
FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE
FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE
FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE

SAVIOR
BLOODSTAIN
HELLFIRE
SHADOW

HEAVEN ON A LANDSLIDE

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I think at this point they're just having their cake and eating it too
the jabs about DMC2 were a lot more direct they just didn't mention who the director was but Itsuno is still in good graces with Capcom
But I think right now they know they're not really gonna get in trouble for talking about DmC in that way, Capcom wants to pretend it didn't exist and so does everyone else

This mystery here is, why the FUCK were all the journos sucking DmC's cock? If they were paid shills, why aren't they sucking DMC5's cock the same way? Was it actual, unironic racism against Japanese-made games? I still don't understand

Also I like how none of them have ever commented on Ninja Theory's actual unironic homophobia calling Dante a faggot in those slides like an insult

Oh fuck off why do people like you take every little fucking thing and assume it's some conspiracy and the company was shitting on the old games the whole time. You dont know the ful lstory just like SH fans didnt know about the story with the fucking reboots either. Hell some SH fans still shit on the guy who made them despite countless videos disproving the negative points against him. So if you dont know about what really happened fuck off. Also Itsuno wanted DmC to be westernized so blame him niggers.

>Was it actual, unironic racism against Japanese-made games?
Yes. Japanese games are disgusting and problematic in their eyes.
Harada was right.

seeor at least it's the most substantial thing to go off of and it seems believable

Looks like Dante's going to be trapped in hell forever.

This, changind the game whole visuals and aesthetic wasn't even NT fault, it was Capcom order. But shitting on the classic fans like they did? Literally saying that Trish and Lady are fuckin prostitutes? Tameme can suck my Big Bug Dick.

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>assume it's some conspiracy and the company was shitting on the old games the whole time
>literally has Donte wear a white wig and say 'not in a million years'
>conspiracy

Remember when they transformed a Legendary Dark Knight who Awoke to Justice into a balding BDSM addict?

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shut the fuck up something awful shill who watched that tom huellt video from that badshit insane bitch who thought that Guy Siegh sexually harassed him.

>the company was shitting on the old games the whole time
>"not in a million years"
>"Old Dante isn't cool"
>that whole slide show presentation about Dante being an uncool gay cowboy and how DmC is the new cool "hip" thing
>the fact that they doubled down on old fans and the "haters" once people showed dislike for it
>muh conspiracy
oh gee I dunno user

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Don’t forget how Capcom basically forced them to do something different and had Ninja theory wedged painfully between them and fans.
That’s still no excuse for making a mediocre game with tons of bugs that drag it down even further, some award-winning awful writing, or fucking Tameem. Fuck Ninja theory, but that shit show was also Capcom’s fault and people forget that.

>this meant Westerners could get more of a hold on what Japs did with games

What do you mean by this? You mean they wanted to suck Capcom's cock by sucking DmC's cock and so get in the good graces of the Japanese industry?

BALLS TORTURE FOR ETERNITY

He worked on Operation Raccoon City and MHW. A bit of RE2 too

God I do. And they STILL talked about him in the game like he was a “legend” but was shown as an absolute jobber. And worse, he’s still alive yet Dante & Vergil didn’t bother to look for him.

I believe it was mostly about getting clicks. Everyone was trashing that game and why settle for preaching to the choir when you can be the blade of grass doesn't bend against the wind that attracts the most eyes?

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Ninja Theory is one of the worse game studios that I know. They are all style over substance, like Suda51. But while Suda games have personality and charm (even when being crap on everytthing else) Tameem games are hollow and pretentious.

They were the worst choice for a DMC game, and the aimless Capcom of those years wasnt able to see it.

And don't forget

>end of credits LITERALLY has Tameem or somebody flip off the viewer and then ride a skateboard away

I struggle to comprehend what the everloving FUCK they were thinking here

FUCKIN SLAVES

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The gameplay was pretty ass too. I’m genuinely confused as to why people defend it. The environments I kinda get, even if they weren’t my cup of tea. Thought everyone looked greasy.

From what's said in the podcast he started as a programmer, got shoved into Global Production (Inafune's outsource everything department), became a Dev 1 producer after GP got shut down and worked under Okabe since. He got so much recognition with DMC5 since they had such a strong global marketing campaign for it and he's basically the gaijin with the highest position.

Again, it's not about jabs at DmC, it's about him saying that a prominent director at Capcom wanted to resign because of how poorly managed everything was. There's speaking negatively about a past mistake and there's speaking negatively about the company itself.

>that brokeback mountain photoshop
Imagine this shit in twenty fuckign nineteen, or eighteen for that matter. Can everyone just drop the virtue signaling pretenses and admit they all made fun of fags and niggers like everyone else?

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>Also Itsuno wanted DmC to be westernized so blame him niggers.
INAFUNE. IT WAS I.NA.FU.NE.
Itsuno didn't even know Capcom's going to make a DMC reboot

youtu.be/jook25MP2kw?t=182

It wasn't Tameme it was Donte VA

Because they were paid to suck its cock.

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See it as more of a desperation on their part then anything. When DmC was getting closer to release that was when journalists and websites started doing the whole "Japanese games are problematic" schtick and at that time a good chunk of people believed Inafune was right that Japanese games needed to be more influenced by what Western developers were doing. For a time all the losers on places like Kotaku seriously thought they could influence how the Japanese made their games and thought this was the opportunity for that

>Tameem or somebody flip off the viewer
It was the voice actor for Donte. And it felt like "F-f-f-fuck you guys I AM D-d-dante!" response due to all the criticism. He also sounded whiny and the whole skateboard flip off thing was hilariously juvenile.

>Can everyone just drop the virtue signaling pretenses and admit they all made fun of fags and niggers like everyone else?

SJWs wont never do that, that's why the world needs a WW3

seriously now what was the point of making dante a half angel if he both looks human AND it's not crucial to the plot?

>Also Itsuno wanted DmC to be westernized so blame him niggers.
He absolutely had nothing to do with that decision you fucking tool. Unless you somehow mixed up the westaboo Inafune with Itsuno because you're retarded and thought it was the same guy. You fucking nigger lmao.

The whole game is hilariously bad, and the fact that these sjw crooks defend it only makes them exposed as such. Someone post the twitter tirade IN THE ACTUAL GAME AFTER YOU BEAT MUNDUS, followed by Dante grabbing Kats ass

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Then why aren't they sucking DMC5's cock the same way? Capcom has more incentive to ppump the reviews out this time, seeing as DMC5 is actually good and will be backed up by word of mouth and could attract a far wider audience, but then you still see journos salty about DmC

You got anything to back that up? I struggle to imagine how fucking stupid people can be

Not him, but both the dev team, and writing team and game completely forgot about angels the minute Donte heard about it in a cutscene. The user is right that they still kept calling him half human half demon which goes to show how poor the writing was. Journalists didn’t even point this out.

to give him a shitty blue weapon that's the only way to damage blue enemies

DmC could have been better received if the devs just hadn't been assholes. They could have kept everything the same, but instead just said
>Yes our version of Dante is a re-imagining. We don't know that we could do the original Dante justice, so since we've been given this amazing opportunity by Capcom, we decided to use the Universe, but give it a reboot. It allows us more creative freedom also. I wouldn't expect our Dante to become the new normal. Think of this as an alternate universe.

i had fun with it, i didnt care about the whole DISRESPECT autistic bullshit
also i pirated it that helps appreciating it
is 5 cracked yet

The damage Inafune did to Capcom can't be overstated.

>it's about him saying that a prominent director at Capcom wanted to resign because of how poorly managed everything was
in the DMC artbook Itsuno basically said the exact same thing concerning DMC2's development and got no flak for it
like I said before I don't think Capcom really cares at this point if people, employees or otherwise, acknowledged the mistake they made. I mean they pretty much admitted the reaosn the poor quality of the games was due to outsourcing and how they managed everything poorly

They wanted to be revolutionary and tried so hard to be different. But couldn’t even remember their own plot.

>doesn't realize the can flip was the best joke of the series

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cracked by capcom day 0

Someone post the Tameen twitter caps of when the demo came out, and glitches a plenty, and his response was fuck you. Yes. He actually said this and told others, including veteran DMC players that he doesn’t want nor need their advice and the game is perfect

Instead they gone

>FUCK DANTE LMAO HE WOULD BE FUCKING LAUGHED AT IF HE ENTERS A BAR LOL
>LMAO WHO CARES ABOUT 60 FPS GAMEPLAY (BORING PEOPLE THATS WHO)

>I struggle to imagine how fucking stupid people can be
I guess think of it this way
there are a lot of people that think supporting Communism will allow them to become the Bourgeoisie rather than the proletariat that would realistically happen to them
Journalists and people who thought they had a bigger influence than they did thought by saying a few sugarcoated words to devs will get them on their good side rather than just being seen for what they're really doing
Asskissers always think being asskissers will benefit them

>Itsune mentioned several times of how he likes DmC and would rather made its sequel as opposed to DMCV
Were those just PR speaks?
I don't know what to believe anymore.

I just found it too slow. Don't know if it got better later with more weapons.

You are aware that this isn't a sales figure, right?

>People really think that Itsuno liked DmC
>First thing he says on E3 is DMC IS BACK with a smile on his face.
>HIS DMC is back, the game that, after kamiya left, he nurtured into a full grown franchise
>The franchise that DmC developers shat on was his as well.

He really thought, together with us, that DMC would be dead if capcom didn't give he the free reign over the franchise.

>implying a pure creature like Itsuno would shit on someone head in public like that

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Do you think itsuno will be allowed to make dragon's dogma 2 next?

Itsuno does not say the exact same thing concerning DMC2 in the artbook. You're just being argumentative for the sake of arguing now.

Daily reminder that Tameen told the dev team to not add a taunt button, since he stated there’s no point to it and it’s immature

Notice how that's Ninja Theory's official account asking the question in that tweet, not Capcom's.

This is too good to be true, post source

Yeah it's hours played, and it's already more than half Fallout 4 hours

He's Japanese user, it would be considered pretty rude to do so in public.

I hope so. It’s really nice how that game has gained a following. I remember it was compared continually to Skyrim when it came out and that didn’t do it any favors with normies

THE BIG NIP

>is that it had absolutely no respect for the original game.
It had a valid point, and it followed up on it. DMC5 retroactively confirmed that DmC was right all along in its critique of the main series.

He said it was unnecessary since there was already talking when attacking

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Redemption arc baby

Of course they were, they shat on DmC at the E3 stage, I'm sure capcom told them to be nice to ninja theory after that.

The game already affected 5 too much as it is. The new style terms are terrible, the announcer is complete garbage and Dante/V's battle themes remind me of the of it. Plus the swearing was excessive, it made sense when Nero cursed, he's a punk. But when you have Morrison calling Lady and Trish crazy bitches and I think even Dante started swearing like a fucking sailor. Rubbed me the wrong way after hearing so much.

My theory is Capcom seems to realized that people who play games like DMC don't listen or respect game journos to begin with, so they aren't wasting any money this time paying people to change their tune or at least shut up about it. Meanwhile, those journos who invested so much effort into defending DmC don't want to out themselves as being shills or wishy-washy, so they're sticking to their guns.
>how none of them have ever commented on Ninja Theory's actual unironic homophobia calling Dante a faggot in those slides like an insult
I think they're just hoping it doesn't become a big issue. If it does though, I'm sure they'll start preaching about this crazy new philosophy of "separating art from the artist".

He already was, it's just a matter of he wants to do it now

Everything was compared to Skyrim around that time. Remember the "Skyrim but with [x]" meme?

But Skyrim's fame is now over and Fallout76 has damaged Bethesda.

he literally says that he was brought in 4 months before the game shipped and the only thing they had done was the stinger and how he didn't want to be remembered for DMC2 and talked about how much of a nightmare it was

Virtue-signalers are and have always been the biggest bullies. They are not people and if you get the chance to fuck them over, take it.

>You're just being argumentative for the sake of arguing now.
user you've been doing this exact thing throughout the thread even when other anons gave their backing to their arguments and you just refuse to budge
stop being so stubbornly defensive

it's clearly PR speak, Itsuno is a good guy but him praising NT "style" and saying he wanted to make DmC2 is contradicted by Reuben statement and how japanese devs had to help NT with basic design & animation philosophy.
But at this point it doesn't even matter anymore, DmC will never get a sequel and we got a true sequel (Itsuno & Matt words at E3) with DMC5 which is one of the best game of the serie and certainly better than any games NT did or will do

E3 2012: DmC demo with dev team. I can try finding a video of it. But he stated it was immature and wouldn’t fit with the narrative of the story.
This too.

>DmC existed due to Inafune's Western dick sucking and DMC4 not selling well as God of War 3

I really hope GoW 2018 doesn't start effecting action games again. Especially considering Capcom avoided the Soulsborne trend

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Absolutely no one would shit on on Dmc if there wasn't any DMC before. People were just salty because there was no continuity to DMC 4.
There, i said the absolute truth.

>is given all these reasons for why this whole situation is not a big deal
>"yeah well you're just arguing for the sake of it now"
do you have autism

It's a flop cope

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The main source of that is an interview made by the same guy who mixed up Dante and Nero and then screamed at fans when he was called out for being retarded, and constantly writes pathetic shill articles for DmC. So I would take that with a grain of salt. 5 does take inspiration from DmC in various ways but that's different from saying that Itsuno liked DmC.

>But when you have Morrison calling Lady and Trish crazy bitches
he's black
>I think even Dante started swearing like a fucking sailor
yeah, he said long ass nap, that's really rude and crude

>Inafune not only ruined other people's franchises, but even ruined his own like Dead Rising
>he even ruined franchises outside of Capcom like Tecmo Koei's Ninja Gaiden
>for franchises he couldn't touch, his fucking best Westaboo friend Hideo Kojima did it instead
Fucking hell, if it wasn't for Kojima we'd have actual Castlevania and not a mismanaged, meme-2.5D budget kickstarter game.

The biggest praise that GoW 2018 got seemed to be how "innovative" it was in the sense that it turned itself into a pseudo-RPG with action combat.

If that's what devs and publishers take home then brace for plenty of established series trying to transition into other genres.

You are fully aware that it's only recent, right? do you seriously think that DMC V has the same amount of hours played as Fallout 4 does? When Fallout 4 came out almost 4 full years ago?
>and it's already more than half Fallout 4 hours
Fallout 4 was at 17 million two years ago, it's a figure for total hours played within a specific time frame, it isn't a cumulative number. You stupid fucking DMC drone.

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I still don't understand how GoW was a success. I lost all interest when I saw that horrific OTS camera. There are a lot of insects who go for the movie game meme, huh?

>doesn't have any more points and is just giving up
haha

IT's probably less than this because steamspy over estimates all its sales after it got fucked by Valve.

@454709174
>steamspy
lmao imagine seething so much to the point you become fucking OBSESSED

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Nobody would care about it at all, just like with other NT games

I got you bros
m.youtube.com/watch?v=oeg_Xp1wGM0
17:30

>make mediocre forgettable game vs make mediocre forgettable game that shits all over the legacy of a good game series

Yes, what about it?

>steamspy over estimates
Not Steamspy always did the complete opposite

>conspiracy
youtube.com/watch?v=b_Pz8WiEW4U&t=113s

Inafune on the whole was a terrible person and was awful for Capcom, but because of him Lost Planet 2 exists so I can't hate him totally.

>trusting SteamSpy

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The Game Awards has always been a joke. People like to joke about the "Nintendo bonus" with reviews but the game awards unironically does that with Western games. Only the most high profile stuff like Breath of the Wild can beat a Western game at the game awards. And it's always the most linear and cinematic game that usually gets picked.

>if it wasn't for Kojima we'd have actual Castlevania and not a mismanaged
I mean from what I remember all Kojima suggested was making the main character an original one instead of an existing Belmont

People would barely remember it existed, like that dante’s inferno game. There were all kinds of uninspired action games coming at around that time, hell one was even the death knell of Castlevania

Did they intentionally give Dante a cowboy hat in DMC5 because of this image?

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>"Think you can beat me with THAT? Not in a million years!"

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No, that's an actual lie and I can post proof to the contrary if you want me to. Not to mention that I specified after valve fucked them by making all profiles private by default. If you want proof, go check out the steamspy estimates for Monster Hunter World's Sales then go check out the official Capcom figure.

user I hate to be rude but you may have severe autism if it's this difficult for you to discern what Itsuno has been saying ever since DMC5 was announced

steamspy proved to be decently accurate when the achievement leak last year released exact numbers

I know that, I just find it hard to believe there are unironically people who take TGA seriously or watch anything except Crowbcat's edits of it.

pic related retard

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ignore him, there's one guy falseflagging in every dmc threads and tries to shit up other games

90% People only watch TGA for the announcements since it has basically become a hype show like E3 conferences.

Nope, he did WAY MORE. He convinced Konami that Castlevania needed the DmC treatment, and started contacting Western studious to find one to outsource to, and he decided on MercurySteam.

Should we update the ranking?

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>dante is NOT a gay cowboy
>dmc5 has dante doing a michael jackson routine with a cowboy hat

oh most definitely. there's a couple other jabs at DmC too

>More character design has been shown

>V was also considered as a hot leather wearing vixen

Every single cut version of V's character looks better than what we got. Shame.

Capcom probably didn't pay them off, but Ninja Theory probably did. This was around the time that journalist were trying to push video games as "art" incredibly hard by taking the Hollywood film angle. Ninja Theory built some reputation of fantastic story tellers with cinematic quality among the press. Come DmC and these guys decided to go guns blazing promoting the shit out of the game because it had NT's name attached. I guarantee you that if DmC was rebooted by any other studio, they would not give a single fuck. They flat out ignored Lost Planet 3 despite being another story heavy game.

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The TGAs are pretty much kept alive by game trailers. If it wasn't for them having high-profile game trailers, no one would ever watch it.

Obviously

Not even fucking close. Kingdom Come deliverance was at 600k sold on PC but steamspy said it was 1 million. Steamspy also says that Monster Hunter world is at, at the very least, 5 million sold on PC when the official capcom figure is no more than 2 million (and this 2 million figure includes PS4 and Xbox shipments).

Steamspy is not accurate at all. Not anymore, anyway.

He talks about how the director who was in charge mishandled everything, he never once says the company's management were so incompetent that he wanted to resign. These are two very different things. I cannot fathom how you can't understand the difference here unless if you've just never worked for any business ever. Individual projects can be blamed on individuals in charge of them, insulting DmC is bad for DmC, you can blame Inafune, blame Ninja Theory, blame Tameem, but revealing that one of the most prominent members of the company wanted to resign is bad for Capcom as a whole, it's bad for the entire management, the execs, the COs, there's no individual blame to be pointed, it's a black mark on the whole company. These are different goddamn things and repeatedly saying, "People have insulted DmC before," doesn't change that and isn't remotely relevant.
And you can all go fuck yourselves too.

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Patty the Roll God needs be on somewhere.

Exactly my thoughts user. Well said. Except that DMC reboot was absolutely unnecessary and needless.

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>Vergil's humanity is represented by a leather-wearing slut
Oh my.

this is gold

What other DmC jabs were there besides V having white hair in DT? I must have missed them.

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Nico's van should just be a weapon for Dante.
>Dante just runs over the Vergil with the van in DMC6

>not in a million years
>fuck you

tbf, kojima did what he did because he didn't want the Castlevania brand to die after Igarashi left so he was okay with whatever as long as Konami continued publishing Castlevania games.
It's just that the dev they chose and the game they made was garbage and killed the franchise anyway.

>anti-smoking ad

I'm 99.99% sure he was upset because they took DMC from him, and that's why he wanted to leave. Not due to the game's quality itself.

v drinking virility in his post-boss picture

>Patty's roll so strong it summoned Doppleganger Vergil

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It’s clear as day that Mundus was involved in the development of the game, but was scraped. They really should of ran with it.

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I guess I'm pissed because I would have preferred it to end rather than those garbage lord of shadow games

Where would Lady's cute butt rank?

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who cares
dragons dogma 2 now
i want to see this madman create some good games

I'll just say that while the gameplay is nowhere near as good as DMC, it's pretty damn servicable and I still think it has far better combat than most western games.

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was the last castlevania lords of shadow?

lmao

Who says not a million years? I don't remember that.

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Dante, to Vergil.

What's this? It looks cool.

SSSSS

Not a cutscene, was a talk in-game on Dante vs Vergil

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Best weapons for Wesker Blanco DMD? Or should i just shottie jc for old times sake

Loved that.

With the netflix animation and the Bing Bing Wahoo port, I'm guessing they thankfully have plans for DD2. Honestly this works out great.
>a bunch of DDfags at Cygames complain that they want DD2 in 2016 during the Capcom Dark Ages
>proceed to start making their own
>Capcom makes DD2
>now we will get an official DD sequel and a DD clone made by DD fans

>Nico starts smoking
>V literally stands up while fanning the air away from him and leaves the van in disgust
V IS CUTE
CUTE

>I was dead certain V was Mundus after hes 's mentioned in the Qliphot fruit story

>Turns out that might have been the case

Fuck me, man. The story does feel rushed out the door at the end.

>than most western games.
Which isn't really an achievement. Especially not because Capcom had to fly in Itsuno's team multiple times just to show them what basic shit like "merihari" is let alone more complex mechanics. So it's barely even a pure western action game at that.

i keep hearing that itsuno said he had to do either dmc 5 or dd2 and he chose to do dmc 5 first

Concept art of V in its early stages. Originally this was going to be Vs design, with Mundus in the background as his familiar. But that was scrapped and then we got the guy version of V, who’s name in the coding is Gilver. Many of Vs other concept art involves bandages on his face like Gilver, who is a Vergil clone Mundus made to test out Dante and haunt him. Mundus also made a clone Dante to attack Vergil, but he got lost and hasn’t been seen since.

>tfw I kept calling V "Mundus' rebellious teenage son"

He didn't really want to work on DMC. After 3 he wanted to do something else but they made him do 4, after 4 he wanted to do Dragon's Dogma, and the main reason he's back for 5 is to bring things back on course. He was probably more upset they took DD away from him to make DDO.

Dropping the word 'reboot' probably would've helped, too. Use something else like 'spin off'.

LoS 2 but yes. 2 was so bad that they pretty much canned the franchise outside mobile shit and pachinko.
Maybe we'll get a remaster collection like Symphony and Rondo but I doubt we'll get a proper new game ever.
honestly, I agree. LoS just further cemented that Castlevania should stay 2d always

>Making Mundus a sexy medusa queen
I don't know where they were going with this.

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Ladys got a nice brapper tbqh, at least shes cute in this game.Though I want to lick white Nico all over.

I heard that too, and even though I'm a bigger Dragon's Dogma fan than DMC fan, it makes sense to do DMC first, it's a much more high profile franchise with a much larger fanbase and Capcom likes seeing sales. Dragon's Dogma is a more niche thing so I can understand it being lower on the priority list.

Kek, pic related

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It honestly does. With Vergil healing himself out of corruption via the fruit from Urizen, that isn’t even explained, combined with the fact that Mundus was heavily mentioned in the novel and the familiars all align with Mundus, because Griffon and Nelo Angelo in canon have never interacted once, ever, yeah, the ending was clearly rushed for fanservice.

i liked LoS 1 but never played 2, is this the equivalent of DmC to DMC?

>V was supposed to be a goth chick with Mundus following her around
Not only is that much cooler it also makes more sense than Vergil's humanity shit or whatever. Damn. Now I'm disappointed.

There is proof that there were paid reviews for this game.
Also journos love it because it is so easy to get SSS ranks in it making them feel like they are good at video games.

Remember the DMC5 demo and how journos complained that it had no music just to get told that the music only plays when they get good battle ranks?

FUCK NICO
MARRY LADY
KILL TRISH

YOU L I T E R A L L Y CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG

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>christmas cake Lady will never let loose years of pent up sexual frustration on you

Its Japan dude, as much as a shit show MGSV was, it wasn't good PR locking away Kojima in their broom closet and not accept his VGA.

Japanese companies are constantly ass backwards in a lot of ways.

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How the fuck do I beat Vergil as Dante? I'm on normal mode and I can't, and I've played DMD in the previous games. I can easily get him to DT, but then he heals and I can't hurt him anymore without getting skewered.

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I mean it's understandable. Capcom ripped an IP from him that was like his child he'd adopted at that point and was making fuck all retarded business choices with it.

sure smells like a lot of samefagging in this thread. You edgetard neckbeards fucking suck. And this is coming from someone who loved the main series AND liked DmC. DMC1 and DMC3 were the only good DMC until 5 came out. If you think 4 was good, you're too young to be here.

Karma came back for his ass, at least. Fuck Inafune.

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Silver bullet isnt even dubstep. Its electronic-pop music. Its upbeat.

>Mundus was planned
I’m beyond disappointed that they didn’t go through with that.

Konami not making games an an amusing side effect, Kojima literally became the face of the company. So now even if they make games, all people want is Kojima. Metal Gear is probably dead, everyone is demanding that the people that made MGS1, MGS2 and MGS3 be fired for making MGS Survive. It's funny how everyone lavishes praise on Kojima but neglects the rest of the development staff.

Yeah but because of him we never got Ex Troopers but we got Lost Planet 3 instead.
Fuck him. It was Capcom's dev team that managed to make Lost Planet into a good game, not his directions.

DmC is just a horrible DMC game otherwise its a pretty okay action game.
LoS2 is actively garbage. It's more like the DMC2 of the series.

Dead Rising 1 in my case. It's amazing what great games he can make when he isn't trying to "revolutionize the game industry".

>FUCK NICO
My only problem with this is that Nico is bro as fuck. I can't imagine fucking her.

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D-did you say Silver Bullet?

WHEN THE NIGHT ENDS, IT'S NOT OVER
WEAVE RIGHT THROUGH TO GET CLOSER
LIKE A SILVER BULLET PIERCING THROUGH
I THROW MYSELF INTO YOU

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it makes sense.

Mundus was a girl that got SUPER Salty when her main man left her for some blood bags(humans)

Thus she spend over 2000 years making a demon knight program based on sparda and her own data.

When she found out he fuck an human over her? she went absolutely crazy bitch over it.

at least with vergil, she can pretend it her and mundus son. That why she did the nelo angelo project.

>I can't imagine fucking her.
I can
nexusmods.com/devilmaycry5/mods/10

Think how Itsuno wanted to make DMC3 just because DMC2 sucked.
He is the kind of guy who likes to fix shit, and think he would honestly try his best to do a good sequel.
I think he WOULD be able to make an okay DmC2, but one might argue why even try when the characterization was so bad already.

except most of the prominent people who worked on MGS have left konami and are with KojiPro. Konami literally shut down the original kojima productions. Most of the main staff simply switched companies

Are those supposed to be specific girls or just generic angels?

I still am iffy on her design but god damn is she a fun character.
>hey Nero, I'm gonna have to tell Kyrie about this *bow chika wow wow*
>Kyrie, Nero has a BIG surprise for you

>Not in a million years.
>Every alt Donte costume gives him white hair.
Ninja Theory couldn’t even commit to the insults.

4 was an excellent bloody palace simulator. You can take your incorrect opinions and leave thank you. DmC was also a ridiculously easy and boring game that somehow had a lower skill ceiling than fucking bayonetta, yeah no thanks.

that tummy is illegally fuckable

I honestly can't stand her, shes so annoying.

Yeah pretty much. It's like how Nomura keeps saying he wants to do more TWEWY but keeps getting roped into Final Fantasy, because of course Squeenix is gonna rate FF as more important.

Just edge, Donte is aiming a gun in the head of one in the original art

DMC5 doesn't need paid reviews.

Can you imagine just a idea of what a son/daughter of sparda and mundus would even be like?

....oh god. DMC6 antagonist. Mundus child with sparda dna....only to be known that mundus had a child with vergil to create an quarter human/3 quarter demon.

Crazy bitch/yandere mundus is now canon.

I still love that Q&A. Dan's smile and "we can say that, right?" He knew exactly what he was doing, that perfect little bitch.

DMC4 was okay. But I wouldn't put it much higher than DmC

>DMC6 antagonist. Mundus child with sparda dna

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can someone link that?

I don't even know what to search for

>Can you imagine just a idea of what a son/daughter of sparda and mundus would even be like?
It would be funny is they did a "Mundus possesses a mortal woman" story where she's totally insane and overtly sexual toward Dante and Vergil, completely freaking them out.

>Gene as a guest character.
>Moveset is every single gauntlet move in the series plus more.
Still wish Capcom wasn’t trying to forget God Hand ever happened.

Where did you get those

It's not explicit but it's a pretty easy plan to understand. Vergil survived redeath on mallet island, and probably wandered for a very long time looking for yamato. His corruption was making him fall apart not unlike how V was. He finally tracks down the restored yamato in Nero's arm, so he rips it off. Uses this to portal to the homestead where he separates himself into to. Urizen, a full demon, could heal and empower himself using the qliphoth and the fruit, and V, a mostly full human, would be able to enlist Dante as a client to both defeat the empowered urizen and get him in close so that he could forcibly fuse them back together. The power that Vergil gained from his urizen side eating the fruit was more than enough to heal him, it also granted him a Sin devil trigger, just like how Dante needed his demon form to be fused with the sparda sword in order to access his sin DT.

go google power ranger DMC convention or on youtube.

It's better than that, actually. Itsuno said he went to capcom's founder and said he wanted to do either dmc5 or dd2, and was told to do whatever he wanted. In the same interview he said he had some ideas for dd2, too.
It's coming.

What? That part was kino.

I think they gave up hard on all of Clover's series after Capcom fucked up Okamiden

I posted all the concept art last night. I can do it again if you’d like?

It would be the perfect opportunity to introduce him and make God Hand go back to spotlight

>can be Dante and Lady son
>can be Mundus son
>he would be Nero's rival
>God Hand is now in DMC universe
>villain is a sexy chick with thic tighs and God Leg

God, so many possibilities

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Now that I think about it, if Urizen killed V, would the result still be the same? I mean, the result happened the way it did partially because the cane can channel demon energy or something similar to that.

Dante would say no.

Vergil? It not like he going to say no to free pussy after being stuck in hell for over half his life.

But he going to wear protection. now the real interesting part is how mundus and vergil going to interact with each other.

....God that would be hilarious.

Vergil getting into a relationship and marriage with mundus and on the wedding, she reveals the truth.

Que Vergil puking and choking to death while dante desperately trying to save his brother and not knowing where to laugh,cry or scream out of sheer wtf/despair.

All while Nero and Kyrie and nico not knowing what going on.

Lady be wary and Trish? just a face of pure disgust.

Did I say dubstep? I remember writing wubstep, which isn't a thing that actually exists. You know, like a joke? To poke fun at the amount of genetic WUB that was in DmC? Because poking fun was what we were in the middle of doing?

Capcom.

JUST GIVE US A FUCKING GOD HAND DEVIL BREAKER.

sure,I'm curious about those V concept art, would have liked a goth girl reading poetry or if you have a link to the thread it's fine for me to.
Are they from the artbook ?

Itsuno chose to do DMC5 first wasn't for the sales, but because it seemed to him that there weren't any much pure action games at the time, and he's right most games nowadays are ActionRPGs, and Dragon's Dogma is just another one

when DMC5 was revealed I was 9/10 hyped, absurdly excited
if I ever get to see Dragons Dogma 2 being revealed, I will simply cum on the spot

To imply DmC was inferior would be to imply every other game they give high praise to is lacking. It provided the same kind of intricate set pieces and well shot cutscenes that Uncharted and Bioshock and Dragon Age have along with one of the best Western action gameplay systems around. If THAT game is bad, what does that say about Anthem, and Destiny, and God of War, and Spider-Man? All the things good about those games are things DmC did well, and their core gameplay is inferior, so that means...

From the dev team themselves

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>Camera zooms all the way in behind Nero's back while you have it equipped
>Every time you hit B it performs a context sensitive roulette move
God I fucking wish

I think Itsuno will be allowed to make whatever the fuck he wants next

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D and Jacque Pott

The bottom line is that Ninja Theory were looking for a fight and they got one

I really like the Gilver one.
I hope that user is right and the fact that they canonized Gilver as an angelo prototype clone of Vergil means they'll bring V back as a clone with direct relation to Mundus.

And Gilver art was used to blend with male V

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after DMC5 fails to even outsell DmC? Fat chance.

nigger Itsuno fucking loves DmC and has put stuff from it in dmc5

I'd rather want to see a Dante clone

read the thread you dumb jew nigger

I don't think it would, I think it was really contingent on V being the one to initiate the fusion with his cane. If V fell apart or urizen smashed him to pieces, I think he woulda chosen to just stay urizen. V is the cunning one clearly, urizen doesn't seem that bright.

It's amazing what happens at Capcom when they just let some of the talented people there pick their projects. Like how upper management has been amazingly hands off with Monster Hunter besides making sure that there's SOMETHING MH related on the shelves every year, even if it's a G/U upgrade or a spinoff and not a full new game.

You mean the clone Dante Mundus sent after Vergil that got lost? Tedan seems like a retard.

Dante and V's themes sound nothing like Noisia garbage. What are you on?

And another one. Crow inspired

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I love how you fags keeps pretending you weren't the ones that cast the first stone
when DmC was announced and the first trailer saw donte smoke a cigarette you IMMEDIATELY sent hundreds of DEATH TREATHS to the developers and their families

once the developers retaliated against your stupid ass mocking you and your homoerotic attraction to albino hairs you spinned everything against them and STILL DO IT today, you are pathetic

Just make it so that it's been wandering and getting stronger and whatnot. Then it'd make a good final boss for the Vergil DLC.

Keiji Inafune alongside Itagaki and kojima were pushing the japanese mrket to copy the west. Kojima and Inafune gave in a lot of designs choices to appease the jounalists

He's relatively new blood to Capcom. Apparently he learned Japanese and got into game design specifically because he wanted to work with Itsuno. He's one of those weebs who manages to live the dream.

>absolutely shit on everything the previous games used to be at every turn possible
>think you know better than those japs and use UE3 instead of MT framework because MUH BLOOM MUH GRAPHICS
>still beg Itsuno to come over to at the last minute and fix the game before release
the absolute state of Ninja Theory

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Another variant of Gilver V

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too busy reading your mom's vagina

>DESPUÉS DE LA FRUTA
>ALMA OSCURA
>DAMA
>PESO MUERTO

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I'm pretty sure this loser got this story from the DDII thread I made earlier.

Tameme it's over

>Gilver
Those motherfuckers

Don't forget the journalists doubling down and going YEAH OLD DANTE WAS SHIT DMC WAS SHIT THIS IS THE NEW HOTNESS which was fucking bizarre since DmC was legitimately sexist as fuck.

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I can't believe how shitty Eryx was
Easily the worst gauntlets of any DMC

So where the fuck did V's cane come from anyways? Nico's notes just say that it can channel demon energy somehow. Is it explained in the novel?

>384x1024
What is this shit?

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>t. Underage b&
4channel is 18 plus. Nobody with a brain cell present before y2k cares about unsubstantiated death threats on the internet

Inafune is not a game creator and never has been, he has never directed a single game in his entire life, he a producer, he controlled budget, scheduling, management decisions and stuff like that, any series he's been a part of that has been great is down to the work of the game designers and directors who actually created the games. This is clearly evident in the fact that when he started wielding actual power over creative decisions, all those series went to shit.

Yeah V was really heavily influenced by Gilver. There’s a reason his name shows up in the coding of DMC5 under V.

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Don’t forget taking the slow motion sequence and doing it better in every way and discourage smoking at the same time.

Itsuno loves DmC so he put stuff from it in 5.
This thread doesn't contradict that.
It's just your delusional fanboyism making you mistake DmC homages for poking fun at it.

probably made out of metal from hell, like the Glgamesh gauntlets
would make sense why it can channel energy

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>No Crew Cut

I agree in the case of Inafune, but producers actually do often have as much say as the Director at some of these companies.
Like look at anything Kojima ever worked on as a producer, even if the staff was different between games you could tell Kojima was very hands on with most of these games.

>Trish and Lady
>characters with actual purpose in the story that isnt being Dantes love interest and have cool moves
>prostitutes
>Kat some bitch who serves no purpose other than being a price for Dante after the game is done
>yes this is much better
and Game journos defended this

You gotta be patient. And attack when he does something that leaves him wide open like Stinger, Dimension Slash or Rapid Slash.

That italian gigolo on the right is cool, but doesnt reflect's Vergil's puny human side (who should be small, weak and a pussy) Like in Alan Moore's Jekyll and Hyde

Disagree. DMC5 was nothing like DmC. The "fuck you" at the end of 5 was perfect and I feel like it was directed towards a lot of things, one of them being DmC.

>CAVALIER ANGELO, FORMA DEL SEETHING

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>Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong roof, the bash is two floors down.

i still dont uderstand how they got chosen to reboot DMC
before the reboot the biggest game they did was Heavenly Sword and that only existed because Sony didnt have a God Of War game for PS3 at the time

>be itsuno
>fans are trashing DmC left and right
>"It's okay, I am sure ninja theory did a good job and the fans will be pleasantly surprised."
>capcom tells me and my team to go help out ninja theory
>"That's cool, I am sure ninja theory could use some help with balance adjustments and bug testing."
>go all the way to britain
>get to see DmC for myself
>what the fuck
>turns out it's a fucking disaster on the same level as DMC2
>enemy designs that makes no sense
>why is the gameplay in a post-DMC2 devil may cry game so shit
>why the fuck is the dialogue full of unwarranted jabs and insults directed at the original games
>okay I can understand the jabs at DMC2 but what the fuck
>suddenly tameem shows up talking about bagging whores and getting blowjobs while I am trying to help fix the game
>out of nowhere he flies into a tangent about how much he hates gay people and cowboys
>and then in the same breath tells his PR team to send paychecks and freebies to video game journalists
>what the fuck
>have to spend these atrocious months salvaging this absolute disaster

>in the end, ninja theory is credited with the positive aspects of the game that I and my team are personally responsible for
>am japanese, can't be impolite, but internally seethe whenever I am reminded of ninja theory
>so pissed off that I want to quit, capcom convinced me to stay, promising me that I get to make DMC5

>write out a memo to remember to add a literal cowboy hat as a weapon just to spite ninja theory

Couldn't disagree more with everything you said.

>H-he c-called muh waifus crazy bitches!

Lmao grow up.

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>That pic
Kyrie is going to kill him.

>>turns out it's a fucking disaster on the same level as DMC2
ok it wasn't that bad

>the final shot of DmC is some guy on the dev team skateboarding away from the camera and flipping off the camera
Can't make this up

Can we make a list of all the jabs Itsuno made against DmC?

>Not in a million years
>Gay cowboy hat
>FUCK YOU scene

I'm sure there's plenty more

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I don't think refusing was ever the plan, Vergil wanted to go full demon to beat Dante's ass but then his human part realized he had fucked up big and dedicated himself to stopping it
But then he saw how much of a bunch Urizen was compared to powered up Dante and decided fuck this we're gonna win

>Establish that Sparda is alive and being tortured for eternity.
>Not once do they bring up the possibility of reducing him, even after defeating Mundus.
The plot of DmC was straight up bizarre. Like how they introduce Angels into the lore than do absolutely nothing with it. Eva was so helpless she might as well have still been a human.

>>characters with actual purpose in the story that isnt being Dantes love interest and have cool moves
Look dude, I like Lady and Trish as well, but they did absolutely nothing in DMC4 and DMC5. They each served a specific purpose in DMC1 and 3 and then just kept showing up despite their role in the story being over. I'd be happy if the series gave them something to do besides just being Dante's borderline useless sidekicks.

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i think at this point even Capcom knows GoW isnt in the same genre as DMC anymore so theres no worry of one influencing the other

What would be his bootleg spanish name? El Corte de Equipo?

>how upper management has been amazingly hands off with Monster Hunter

That is cause the Monster Hunter director is upper management. His family runs the company

Wait for your openings, they're mostly the same as Vergil 3. He even calls you out if you keep getting hit when you try to rush in.
When he DTs either slap his face with a fully charged Royal Release, or Double Kalina Ann's charge laser when he tries to fly away to knock him out of it. Or just wait it out, His health doesn't regen during his DT he just gets a small chunk back at the start.
He pulls Doppelganger out at low health, it doesn't have much HP so remove it ASAP with charged shotgun or something

user they didnt have nor understand what hitstop was.

Don't you have phonecalls from squirrels to be answering?

Here is the Interview. At around 12:00 Reuben talks about itsuno.
youtube.com/watch?v=KgwgFPkZ3LQ

Can someone please link the thread? I missed it and I'd love to see those.

So with the changes to the story being obvious regarding V, how much do you want to bet that Urizen's final design was originally made for Balrog? With the kicks and punches and the abundance of eyes, it feels like something's up.

>those Dante concepts they had
NOW YOU SEE VERO..I MEAN TRISH
WE TRULY DO LIVE IN A SOCIETY

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>V's hair turns white on DT
>Vergil Sin DT with the arm blades

I'd say that's plausible and since it was never explicitly laid out in hand hold-y exposition we can't be sure which is right, but that doesn't seem consistent with the ominous smile V makes at the end of the malphas fight cutscene. Though of course, that's just even more reading between the lines

>Ends the game hiding inside a garbage can while her two boyfriends fight
Was this social commentary.

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>mfw that is possibly real

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This

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I remember that fan theory about V where he was a child of Mundus trying to replicate the magic that makes Dante and Vergil so powerful. V being Vergil’s nobody is fun but I wish that theory had been true.

some said that the "I should have just hack my way through" line was a jab at Vorgil anonymous hackers skill but I think it's reaching a bit.

I'm so glad DMC5 got released. It made me feel like a kid again. Already beat Human (as a completionist), DH, SoS, and am working on DMD.

>Post YFW you first found this track

youtube.com/watch?v=GJ_Itr8UzMM

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>that fuck you

My dick got ROCK fucking hard. Glad I beat it on my first try.

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I thought the arm blades where a reference to Nero's arm sheath in 4?

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>"We have some people disappointed at the lack of a taunt feature...but I think NT takes their narrative very seriously"
Good fucking lord

>anti-smoke ad

I know, my point is how that has generally just given them the time they need to make something quality without any major outsourcing or other bullshit. Just look at what else we've gotten when they apply the same approach to more than just MH:
>RE2 remake by guys who were basically begging their bosses for ages to give it a shot
>DMC5, which was apparently Itsuno's first choice for something he wanted to make
And both were fantastic

Thanks dude.

I know that, but producers who have actual creative input tend to have game design and director credits to their names as well, like Kojima and Kamiya; Inafune doesn't have a single one. He goes from artist straight to producer.

not just that, he purposely left out the 75% of the full interview so he could focus on DmC2. Didnt he end up loving dmc5 anyway?

>Post YFW you got the lyrics to trigger during the final fight
youtube.com/watch?v=56OFdp-DGi4

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Could be but there was also an interview about the DmC design process where artists designed enemies with arm blades that couldn't actually be used.

Actually watch that conference, the artist is having a joke with the audience. It's not a dig at the game, it's a bit of light japery.

The problem is apparently you guys don't know how to take a joke.

The one on the left is pretty sleek. Wish they'd give him that formal costume in a DLC. Much better than sleeveless whorewear and sandals.

Nico's notes in the gallery mention that it looks like Yamato merged with Vergil's arms in his Sin DT

Tomador de Notas

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you can literally 1 shot him with faust

i teared up a bit when he dropped credo's name
it was so unexpected but so perfect

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Okay user, you have been apointed as the official idea guy in charge of DMC5 dlc, you' only restriction are that it has to include Trish & Lady, which weapons and moveset do you give them while keeping in mind that it has to take place after DMC5 events so they can't have Sparda & Kalina Ann 1 & 2

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forgot one thing
>why is there no taunt button

>muh death threats
lol calm down and just turn the screen off you fucking faggot retard.

>When this is over I’ll make you submit...father.
>Cracks Devil Bringer knuckles.
The entire end sequence was perfect.

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Hentai dating simulator

>DMC is back and will live a healthy life as a franchise
>Ninja Theory was so broke they had to be bought out by MS and will probably get RARE'D a few years down the line once MS realises Ninja Theory never made anything better than just ''okay''
best timeline

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Nico could just make more Kalina Anns if you're worried about keeping it cannon.

She reminds me of tomie from those junji ito manga.

Trish and Lady go to hell to break Dante and Vergil out

Don't forget that DmC literally killed Itsuno's vision of Dragon's Dogma. DD was Itsuno's dream game from before he worked on DMC2. NT was so incompetant that Itsuno was forced to fly out of Japan and take his staff off of DD to help NT polish DmC. If you ever look at the original design plan and compare it to what we actually got you can see how gutted the game was as a result of its fucked development.

Reminder that the Definitive Edition of DmC is basically Itsuno's game.

Why can't Lady have the Kalina Anns? The first one belonged to her, while the second was given as a rental to Dante.

Alastor for Trish
Kalina Ann 3 for Lady

>Game takes place in what is obviously England
>Everyone has American accents

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my.mixtape.moe/mivmxj.mp4

It might actually be a jab at the blue vine door segments in DmC.

That whole scene was kino being given a tangible form.

Dante is explicitly mentioned to be American in the DMC1 manual and besides the red phone booths Red Grave just looks like any medium sized western city.

I like black Morrison :D

I think that makes more sense. Those sections are fucking stupid and everyone knows it

>he a producer, he controlled budget
CON

This video truly shows what Inafunes control of Capcom did to them. I’m so glad he was removed and people like Matt took over as PR guys

>Ninja Theory ruined the chances of the world getting what could have been an even better Dragon's Dogma
I fucking hate Ninja Theory with a righteous passion.

This is NOT supposed to be Dante is it???

You like black Morrison D?

>Black cabs
>Double Decker buses
>London Underground style signage in the Subway
>European style cathedral and hotels

Lady loses Kalina Ann after the prologue, after which Dante is able to find it mission 11. He never gets the time to return either before going to the Underworld.
Just give Trish Ifrit and Nightmare Beta too.

>GUYS GUYS REMEMBER THAT BAD GAME HAHA IT ALMOST MADE THE CREATOR OF THE OVERRATED ORIGINAL QUIT HAHA GIVE ME YOUR UPVOTES
Who fucking cares

>lore influencing gameplay
Just like V becomes unplayable once you complete the game, right?

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>NOOOO STOP LAUGHING AT THE BAD REBOOT!

I have never before witnessed a level of anger this immense.

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you cared by replying, Tameem.

>tfw DD was supposed to have a 2nd overworld on the moon

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>NOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND DMC IS THE WORST THING SINCE SATAN IF U DONT AGREE AND CONSTANTLY TALK SHIT ABOUT IT YOU ARE REBBIT AND TAMEEM

You?

they now feel confident to shit on DmC since 5 is meeting sales expectations. At the time they knew they had to kiss up to DmC because it was some journo darling.

> Fetus Deletus 9000

Is he standing on a box?

>Anyone who played DMC4 must surely of seen how desperately the IP needed an injection of new ideas and modernisation - which is exactly what the skulful Ninja Theory achieved.

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the amount of cope in this post

>all these buttmad fanboys
No wonder the media make fun of you all the time

cute

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Well if that bit in the stinger is any indication, we just might be getting a Trish and Lady adventure to play through, either as a possible future DLC of 5 or a spin-off game.

Oh no! Not the gaming media! I'm melting~

>Lets take away lock on and have a button that only launches off the ground or slams in the air!
>Also two buttons do the same dodge!
Thanks

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hes wearing Hollywood platforms

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I got you for those chief. They tried hiding these but I saved them when they leaked.

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To be honest, I wish Reuben kept his mouth shut. I felt personally slighted by the reboot's PR and the reboot itself felt like an insult to everything I enjoyed about the franchise, but Itsuno walking out on stage in his power stance and yelling "DEE EHM SEE. ISU. BAKK." was the redemption arc I wanted, that's it. That 5 turned out great is the icing on the cake.

Gloating over how Itsuno threatened to leave or some shit just pours poison. I like that Itsuno refuses to shit on DmC, that puts him leagues above Tameme who spent every waking hour shitting on the older games. Now Itsuno has every right to gloat but he doesn't.

The media can make fun of us all we want.
>the media's darling DmC literally caused Capcom to cut all connections with Western studios, outright killing Capcom Vancouver and other companies
>it got "critical acclaim" by the media but was the laughing stock
>meanwhile DMC5 will sell a ton

>When DMC4SE outsold DmCDE
best of all is that DMC4SE launched a day before by birthday. amazing.
the fact DmCDE is just the PC version with the community mods tells that Ninja Theory took the L

What was up with all the pre-release content showing Donte in police custody anyway?
Absolutely nothing even references it in the final game.

What one of the costumes were going to be before they got scrapped

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>n-n-no...we are not mad...y-you are...!
Hey newfags

dunno about weapons, but id like something where Nero and Nico run Devil May Cry, and you can pick any character, Dante, Vergil, Nero, Trish, Lady and Nico's van to go on jobs that Kyrie found as the secretary and manager to DMC.

>all three player characters hate smoking
>Vergil uses Doppelganger
>rips off a Bleach design much better than Ninja Theory, And does so for the character that actually shares Ichigo's voice

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Where exactly was gilver canonized? Is he mentioned in the game?

>lady's main weapons are Artimurs and Pandora, Artemus gives her a DT due to being involved with unrizun, in story her use is slowly killing her, the point is to find a way to get rid of the power before she goes awall or dies. in game it slowly lowers her health for a big power boost. her DT looks similar to jester
>pandora is one weapon but has 3 forms which switch out similar to balrog
>trish acts similar to dmc 4 except she uses alistor most of the time instead of sparda. her main focus would be on.
>dante and vergil come back at the end, Dante gives lady back her the double Katalina Ann and trish gets yamato to weild for one battle due to vergil being weakened.

To rebel against society. Funny enough, it made Donte look weak as shit since he jobbed to the police in said promotional and cutscene pic

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Holy shit

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The Virgin British "Storyteller"
The Chad Japanese Game Developer

Hmm? I though their recently game was sell well? Somethig something about a woman that got hallucination or some shit like that?

It's part of the punk aesthetic. It'd probably be a better game if it went full bore self destructive Sid Vicious style punk. And if it wasn't a DMC game

In the novels. He’s also in the code in he game. Pic related

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DmC-fags on suicide watch

Everyone else tells you they were paid, but I think it's because some people at Ninja Theory are friends with the journos. The fact that they're still shilling and defending that piece of trash long after release says it's gotta be more than money. Journos don't care about looking inconsistent or hypocritical.

Nepotism runs fucking rampant among journos.

>best of all is that DMC4SE launched a day before by birthday. amazing.
Grim Dawn is getting its new expansion the same day as my birthday, in a couple weeks
This month has been fantastic

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I don't think they exist. It's just falseflagging shitposts

nobody, I mean NOBODY defended DmC back in 2013 all the way till 2016

requesting the image with the grammar corrections

Kalina Ann 3, which is more advanced than 1 and 2 and can split apart. It also gets more use out of the spear part of the weapon, making it a quasi-Devil Bringer.

Nice argument bro
Stop seething

>DmC was straight up hot tras-

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We got the game we want while you're sulking like a bitch over how Dante's VA is trashing DmC. No amount of "No U" retorts can change that.

Trish and Lady - Ladies night
>While the two are waiting for Dante to return, Morrison hands them a job. Apparently a bunch of Dante's old devil arms which he sold have manifested back into their demon forms and are causing havok. Trish and Lady move in to take care of things

Trish
>With Sparda gone, she's using Alastor and Ifrit. Sparda's handguns and Pandora

Lady
>Her fusion with Artemis changed her, she now has a devil trigger and is able to summon a copy of the old devil arm with an expanded moveset. Mostly the same moveset as 4SE with her grenades now being a back to forward move. Has already replaced KA 2 with 3

DLC is 5 missions, with unique locations, fighting some bosses from previous games with enhanced movesets. Two missions can be played completely co-op, especially against Agni and Rudra boss. Two missions are solo Trish and Lady missions and then a final mission, which is just a boss which is also co-op.

boards.fireden.net/_/search/image/se0Ohmo1VKcyGWhYQWFaMQ/
>33 results
you alright?

>using the dlc which already fixed several issues the base game had
Now post one of the base game that everyone knows was hot garbage

Its really funny because no boddy really minds nico smoking, its just about the character and how NT was just fliping out the finger on fans every Fuck you in DmC was to the fans thats why the game flopped so hard but first timers think its good.

>Posting DE-only content
Capcom Japan stepped in to fix that version by making it more like the old games, and Vergil was part of that. Posting Vergil stuff as an example of the game being good is like saying "Here's the part of the game that's not like the rest of the game, and it's good!"

It did get better after Itsuno flew over and pumped out Definitive Edition, yes.

There was some fags, mostly because at the time people REALLY wanted bayonetta to be better.
For a small bit, before operation CUHRAAZY happened, there was some serious faggotry around DmC.
No one defended it when the game sucked ass and anyone with eyes could have seen that, but prior people were genuinely fighting over the idea of the reboot.

The only DmCs I've played was 1 and 4, I don't give a shit about this series lol I just think DMCfags are obnoxious neckbeards.

Oh yeah wtf, I forgot about that myself. Why would they introduce angels only to do nothing with them whole game

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Prequel novel mentions the events of the DMC1 novel, and Trish mentions Mundus made angelos based on Sparda, Dante, and Vergil's battle data. It was likely mostly Vergil's because unlike Dante he never changed his name and went into hiding after Eva died. In any case, it's heavily implied that Gilver was an angelo all along.

>Is less effective than just spamming judgement cut on a group of three enemies
psssh...nothin personell...kid...

> 2013

Where does the time go?

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Didn't Itsuno worked on the DE version?

h

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it took all the money they had left to make that game and it sold okay, not terribly but not good enough to recover from the flops that where DmC, Enslaved and Heavenly Sword

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>clips through the scabbard
Unreal 3 was such a fucking mess

>post DLC in a revamped version
not only did the DLC aim specifically to have "higher end gameplay" with virgil
but the entire definitive edition was just taking parts from other games that were infinitely better and slapping them in hoping the game wouldn't be ass.

It still was.
but hey, nice cherrypick.

Based.

That's one of the reasons that 2016 Ghostbuster parody failed. Not just because it was unfunny, not just because of its agenda, but also because the originals didn't matter. In the end this turned out to be a good thing because a real sequel is now in the works. I dunno what black magic caused us to get a second chance at a new Ghostbusters, but thank whatever deity made it happen.

The parody shat on fans, mocked them, the force behind the film tried to make anyone who was against it painted as a soggy knee dispenser, it was a mess. You don't make a product out of something beloved and that has a decent fanbase, shit on said fanbase, and then make something that isn't for them at all. Your product won't sell. In the past this would also indicate to the higher ups "This product/franchise is garbage so let's shelve it." Thankfully DMC and Ghostbusters were strong enough to bounce back. Hopefully GB 3 turns out well.

Nigga, did you ever played DmC Vorgil?
Is the most Boring and Bland gameplay almost as DMC2 Dante

El Donte was the only good thing about DmC only because the voice actor put his entire effort into that game. Someone post the infamous English VA Screaming when Mundus absorbed Vergil

El Donte
youtube.com/watch?v=TPKHxbOg19s

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>IT'S JUST A JOKE GUYS GOSH
>I'M NOT NORMALIZING TOXIC MASCULINITY REALLY

nice try /pol/

>post the version that exist because of Itsuno's various fixes
the original release didnt even have a fucking lock on

"half-angel and half-demon" sounds cooler than half-human if your idea of "coolness" is the same as ninja theory's or a 14-year-old's, I think that's literally the only reason angels even exist in this game.

He worked on both the core game and then on DE, yes. He tutored NT throughout the development of the main game and came back to steer DE.

SOUL
SOULLESS

Slight problem with that. DD was done in 2012, base DmC in the following year.

h

>the slashes and moves look super long in DmC
> the sword and scabbard looks like its maybe 5 inches long
is this just because this video is compressed or does it look that short in game?

Hellblade? Yeah that game was good and performed well. It's even getting a Switch port, which seems kind of odd since a big part of the appeal of that game was how amazing the graphics were, and how they helped convey the emotional themes of the game through their animation. Something that won't be as impressive on the Switch.

>posting the DE Version a.k.a "Itsuno's Game"

Sure Tameem.

>that flaccid fucking killer bee
LMAAAAAOOOOO

its because DmC animations are shit

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I’m new . I thought 5 was boring but once you get to Nero’s uncle missions it’s like a totally different game. He is scary at first to understand but if you just say fuck it and just remember inputs for his moves and when to dodge there is no other fun.

I wish the whole game was about Dante, I’d replay all difficulties, I just don’t have the motivation when i know I have to do 9 missions each play through just to get to him

the fucked up aspect ratio in that webm clearly doesn't help but I'm pretty sure yamato is shorter in DmC

>bottomless pits - the DLC

Is Ninja theory full of 12 year olds or what?

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DE was also utter fucking trash and there's nothing impressive in that webm nor is there something other than turbo and 60FPS in that webm that fixes the mechanics of Vorgil's DLC in that webm.

The aspect ratio on the right is squished but there's issues with the animation beyond that

Not to mention the yellow ambulances. It's pretty obvious where Redgrave took most of it's influence. They had to take a chopper to get to the city though, so I would doubt that they flew to Europe from America. I think it's more just to make it a mystery where it's suppose to be located and the locale stuff is more just for fun. They even removed the american flags on the darts in Nico's Van.

Lmao look at floaty animations and shitty effects.

>if I call him Tameem I win the argument
Sure incel

I was actually surprised how many DmCwhales are in youtube comment section in comparision videos, like Nero fuck you one,

>>if I call him Incel I win the argument
okay Tameem

you'll love bloody place user, just wait to see it, its gonna be a blast.

>QUE TE JODAN!
>*whispers* Que te Jodaaan

Everyone I've talked to who liked DmC was a man. Literally never met another fellow femanon who lists DmC as her favorite.

Its actually so fucking easy to do in DmC compared to real DMC.
DmC almost plays like Kingdom Hearts.

Just wait for more information about what Divergence mode is. It will probably allow you to play all missions as the other characters.

DmC Yamato looks like SHIT, my god. DMC Yamato is fucking huge compared to that

I trust the original directors son far more than I do a man hating faggot like Feig. No offense to homosexual anons, he's just a huge fucking bitch.

>Needing to wait a for a staple of the series
How did they fuck up that bad?

I remember hearing it ended up being decent because it's just the same guy that did Dante's voice in other spanish dubs. And he just acted it the same way as normal Dante.

Itsuno really liked London when he was forced to go there to help NT and said he took his team on a trip to England and Capcom UK so they could take pictures and base Red Grave on London. Its very clearly and transparently based on London but for story purposes takes place in the US.

Prove me wrong: This is better than DmC.

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>implying I hadn't won the argument already
Really reaching there, fanboy.

So Capcom were willing to make a Vergil DLC campaign for that shitty reboot DmC that we all know played like shit and also sold like shit.

Why won't they do the same for DMC5?

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>fuck up
More likely that it was scheduled later in the development and they just couldn't get it out in time for Mar 8. I'd rather wait for the BP they wanted to make than have one with cut corners ready for launch.

I kinda worry about the mp component though.

>Ruben talking about fucking aliens in that interview.
the guys certainly interesting as fuck
>Literally never met another fellow femanon who lists DmC as her favorite
>Literally never met another fellow femanon
>another fellow femanon
whelp you know the rules.
blame hd game development.

I played DmC but never DE since it was console only. What were the changes?

I heard it included an ass slap at the ending. Is this shit true?

Hold on, DMC games were dubbed in spanish?

Well said, I'm glad some people aren't completely retarded.

This is what DmC fans actually believe

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Dead Rising was directed by the Mega Man Zero guy, who is still at Capcom.

The live multiplayer works fine for Stage 7 and 13, I think it should be fun. Like the co-op Verses in Bayonetta 2.

youtu.be/tnQHtmV5R3o
Can anyone tell me why there are still a bunch of shill and retarded normie supporting ninja theory while dissing dmc even though nt itself is but a sjw studio known for but making 2deep4u and mediocre gameplay garbage?

>If I say I won the argument then I win the argument
this is getting sad, Tameme.

They wanted to get the base game out so the fans could get the main course
Bloody Palace is just the desert, a sweet ending to a perfect dinner

Props to that dude for that. You can tell he just tried to have as much fun with the shit script as possible.

>You edgetard neckbeards fucking suck
Hilarious coming from a DmC apologist.

So what actually Itsuno said about DmC? Im aware that he is too nice to straigh up diss on Tameem and NT, but do he really said that DmC is his favorite?

I don't think the main games did before some of the special editions, but I believe the anime and Marvel vs Capcom had spanish versions.

Donté, el exterminador de demonios is the best thing that came from the reboot.

DMC2's game play was noticeably worse
so was its animations
you can say what you want but its legit a bad game
whens the last time you played DMC2

>implying they won't make Vergil DLC

It's not ruled out in the slightest.

Ah, the mariachi music is what does it

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This narrative of defending the developers by blaming fans for muh death threats sure worked out well for Bioware didn't it. If anyone here is pathetic it's you.

BP is a singleplayer challenge though, to see how far you can get, with the end goal of completing it altogether. Having another player join in cheapens the challenge, doesn't it?

Ninja theory is basically an AA/A studio, so journalists might think that they deserve the help they can get. Their next game, hellblade was completely forgotten outside of journalist praise for its story. In fact, DmC is actually their most known game because of all the PR disasters.

>What were the changes?
60FPS, turbo, a lock on that doesn't work, color coded enemy can now be damaged with different weapons (but not staggered so the PC mod is still superior lmao) and some new difficulty modes. Oh, and they also removed the fedora from Vorgin, changed the cutscene so Donte isn't holding his gun next to Lilith's womb in the car and Donte now lowers his arm to Kat's ass while walking away.

It's still shit and it was like applying a small, half torn band-aid to a decapitated head.

>perfect dinner
The game is obviously good, but I'd hesitate to call any game with V in it perfect.

Had better music
>fight against hollow vergil MK2

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>this is getting sad
>says the guy who threw a tantrum because Dante had black hair
lol

>>implying I hadn't won the argument already
>I don't give a shit about this series lol I just think DMCfags are obnoxious neckbeards.

Yeah quality not-reaching argument there.

Didn't they change/remove the Spanish dub in the DE?

Honestly I'd pay good money for an action game that went super over the top with the whole mexican vibe. Like what Guacamelee did with Castlevania type games.

It was always weird to me that one of the most genuinely misogynistic games out there was the one that game journalists defended to death
Like, how does that make any sense given their track record

Today, I will remind them.

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>still regurgitating this dead and tired hair meme
Pathetic.

>the anime and MvC
Ah yeah, that would make sense. That was surprising to me because we never got dubs for any of the games over here in France. I don't even know if DMC5 has one because I haven't picked it up yet.