Xbone or dualshock for PC gaming?

They're so weird. Like kids or something. There's a million steam forum threads where someone asks about controller support and some kid says to use the keyboard.

A Logitech F310/F710 depending on whether you care about wireless or not.

>Ds4 has more buttons
What is an xbox elite controller
>track pad as mouse
>wanting to use a track pad
Ew
>encouraging motion controls
Bleh
>more ergonomic
The build quality of the thumbsticks on ds4 is quite shitty and the ds4 isnt durable worth a fuck, drop it once and everything inside starts rattling and dropping inputs
PlayStation controllers are also notorious for having buttons and their soft dpads get stuck
Xbox dpad is great for killer instinct and marvel vs capcom
>customize light indicator that was forced into the controller for a few shitty launch games and calibration for its poor signal radius

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I've got that. It's pretty shit. The buttons are huge. Dualshock buttons are better.

>What is an xbox elite controller
A waste of money.

>What is an xbox elite controller
Not the same as the Xbone controller?
Also costs $100 more, by which point OP has dozens of other comparable options with underside buttons?

Your other points are not even worth addressing, it's quite obvious (and sad) that you have an emotional attachment to a company.

Steam controller because it's versatile enough too play games with crappy controller support.

I don't think, that you are right.

I didn't have to do anything, my wife was a monster.

Ok as someone who owns both, avoid the DS4. It fucking sucks. Build quality is garbage compared to the x1 controller
analog rubber will wear off easily and literally tear off the plastic of the analog-head
no native windows support which is a pain in the ass because some games work fine with ds4windows but others just flat out don't work and emulators are pain to use since ds4 windows works in some emulated games but in others you have to change it to directinput to make it work and the whole process is just long to the point I bought a bunch more xbox controllers just so I can play pcsx2/cemu/dolphin games with my friends without having to spend 10 minutes each time troubleshooting ds4windows and directinput on the ds4 controllers
X1 controller just feels nicer in the hand
X1 controller has better dpad
X1 controller has better analog grips to the point its actually recommended to mod ds4 sticks and replace them with x1 grips

eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-how-to-upgrade-your-dual-shock-4-with-xbox-one-parts

Just go with the x1 it's so much easier to use and to me it feels way nicer in the hand but even if you feel them to both be equal the ease of use of the x1 controller is still far better so get that.

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Thanks for the comment, I guess I get the xbone

>Your other points are not even worth addressing (because I have no response)
Yes, surely it is the other user who has an emotional attachment to a company.

Xbone. Best shit I bought for the dark souls games and Hollow Knight.

>xb1 controller has better dpad
ii beito desu ne
The dpad of thr ds4 is far superior. I use my ds4 for all kinds of emulators, and I've never had a problem with any of them, DS4windows does its job very well.

In my opinion, if you're into 3D games, get the XB1, but if you're into dpad heavy platformers, the DS4 is the way to go. I never use the analog sticks, I'm very satisfied with the ds.

as a person who used an Xbox360 controller then upgraded to a dualshock, i must say it is far better, the d-pad especially, however it is no where near plug and play unless the game you are playing is on steam, then its all g

The dpad on the x1 controller is so good I use it over the ds4 when playing tekken 7 since it has a responsive clicky feedback. Ds4 dpad feels mushy.

You seem to be talking about the first DS4 controller, from the rubber issues and the pic. That's as unfair as comparing current DS4 to release Xbone controller which was also pretty shit (especially the LB/RB buttons)

In my pic that's the latest gen ds4 and the 1st gen xbox controller. I have 3 current gen xbox one controllers as well.

do you still need some retarded adapter the Xbone controller on PC?
hated that shit with the 360

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And proof because the light shows through the touchpad

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>analog rubber will wear off easily
i keep hearing this shit but after 4 years of using my DS4 intensively my analog sticks are still fine (and i regularly use it on both PC and PS4)
just dont be a careless retard with your controller

No you can use bluetooth. Their xcloud streaming demo from a couple days ago was a smartphone hooked up to an xbox controller using bluetooth.

Who the actual fuck would buy an elite controller

xbone controller cons:
>still has a god awful d-pad prone to missed presses
>extremely fragile
>prone to catching fire
>one of the most poorly engineered electronics ever
>button layout has very limited options for controls, not good for a lot of genres
>prone to failure
>disassembly is a pain in the ass
>disassembly reveals how poorly designed it is
>not ideal for emulation
>you're mostly using it for emulation
>seriously there's no good PC games, get a real controller for emulation if you're gonna be an emucasual

Xbone controller pros:
most games use its base layout by default

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>That's as unfair as comparing current DS4 to release Xbone controller which was also pretty shit (especially the LB/RB buttons)
I recently upgraded from gen 1 xbone controller to the last version, the bumpers are pretty much the same, why do I see this kind of post pretty frequently?

it was a problem with the earliest DS4s that were available for the first 6 to 8 months of release. There's been numerous revisions and revision 2 is the one that corrected that.

guess that makes sense, my PS4 isnt a launch model

The size and shape of the bumper is identical across the gens but with the revised gen controllers they just disconnected the bumpers from middle of the controller so they're individual buttons now rather than the whole middle bit and the bumpers being one long piece of plastic which meant you could only press the bumpers on the far ends. Most people probably won't notice any different due to the way the xbox controller rests your index finger anyway. The moulded triggers are designed so you can keep your finger on the trigger at all times but it hands over the edge of the bumper so you can press the trigger and bumper with one finger without moving it. Really really good design and maximum comfy.

Thinking about getting this or wiiu pro knockoff

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OP I owned a dualshock 4 before and an xbone controller now.

I'll tell you what I think about both.

DS4:
+The d-pad is in the correct place (subjective)
+Feels ok on the hands, I don't have huge hands though. Kinda... better if you don't use the middle fingers with the triggers often.
+It has quite a bit of extra functionality through software, I appreciate that
+Better overall for classic games
+Very, very, very low input lag over wireless
-Analog sticks not that great
-Battery lasts maybe 2 minutes on a perfect day, needs constant charging even with the LED turned off, of course it will get worse if you play a lot of action heavy based games
-A bit of input lag on wired (?!) so it's better to plug to a charger instead
-Weird horns
-Buttons feel a little flimsy
-D-pad not as good as dualshock 3, less mushy but harder to press, not clicky
-A little bit messy on the software side unless you don't care about native DS4 functionality
-Weirdly enough, more trouble to set up on Linux than the Xbone controller is (another question mark) unless you do use steam often

Xbone controller:
+The d-pad feels better on the thumb, it's not hard to press but it's clicky, so it's good at feedback as well (thought it'd be hard precisely because it's clicky, but it really isn't)
+Really nice texture, still nice on the hands as well, though you have to rest the middle fingers on the triggers, not much of a problem because they are not annoying
+Speaking of triggers, easier to push down without inaccuracy
+Plug and play, no bullshit
+Battery life is adequate
+Sturdy, definitely seems it's gonna last
+Definitely better with 3D games
+No perceivable lag either
-Still, 360 pad analogs are better, these offer less resistance
-A perfect d-pad on the wrong place
-Not supported on Win 7/8.1 on bluetooth on purpose (but somehow it works fine on linux/macOS)
-Also have to use a phone charger to avoid repairing the gamepad every single time, also need to buy a fucking battery (or batteries)

Ew

Switch pro
Wiiu pro if you need analogy triggers.

But between those two you are probably better off with Xbox.

All in all, while I'm happy with the xbone controller I do miss the DS4 a little bit. At mornings I feel like I want to return the thing or trade it. At evenings I'm like "this fucking pad is amazing". The DS4 is not a bad controller. It's just none of them is the perfect controller. I feel the xbone has more good things than the ds4, so I would take an xbone pad and improve it rather than a DS4.

Gyro controls are better for aiming than stick
This is fact.

360>bone>ds4

IMO the d-pad on the DS4 is worse, but placed correctly. Which is why it's still optimal for platformers. But I tend to fuck up more with the DS4 than the Xbox one controller. Also I tried a few hollow knight boss rematches with the DS4 and I have to say, I had to wait a whole fucking day for my thumb to stop hurting so I could comfortably play something.

360 with the xbone d-pad. Perfection has been achieved.

Nintendo Switch Controller

While the DS4 is good, I like the NS one better.

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Can anyone recommend a battery for the xbone controller? Or is the official one the best one around?

Either a DS4 or a X360. Don't fall of the XBO/WiiU/Switch meme.

PS4, easily

>This thread again

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I prefer the feel of the DS4's dpad over the clicky x1 controller's, currently playing HK with it. I think it's more of a matter of preference, you cannot go wrong with either.

List 3 games worth a shit that require that dinput setup and are not more playable with a keyboard and mouse / console ports that are better on console or emulator

d-pad sucks dick

i buy rock candy gamepads on amazon for about 15 bucks when they finally wear out in about 4-5 months of tekken, they still do the platter for the d-pad

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lmao why would you use a wireless input what about the latency

I can understand why, don't get me wrong. Some people use the d-pad differently or don't enjoy the clicky stuff. A lot of people say the neogeo gamepad (not the newest ones, but the previous models with microswitches on the mini stick thing) are excellent with fighting games, but I could never adapt to it. Matter of perspective sometimes. I will say that the DS4 and the Xbone controller both have d-pads that hardly miss any inputs, at least by trying their latest models. Dunno if any others do, but basically I cannot hit diagonals if I don't want to on both.

cruisin' red ranks with a rock candy

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>xbone has a bad dpad
No. The xbone controller has a nintendo-tier good dpad. It's virtually the same as the one on the phat ds.
>but those people never played games that actually use a Dpad like fighters or hard/precise platformers
Wrong again. I use it when playing Sonic Mania/emulating those types of games on my Xbox all the time

Which specific ones?

The 360 ones look like... 360 d-pads which were absolutely pathetic for anything other than circles on street fighter. I didn't even want to play 2D rpgs with that

This one.
The d-pads are fucking great for Tekken and Streetfighter, the controller is small enough that you can play right-overhand.

If you wanna play 2D RPGs just get one of those 10 dollar blister pack ordeals.

Honestly I had a better time with the xbone d-pad than that one specifically. The DS fat is a bit too big a d-pad.

I do some super mario world and castlevania shit. I like how in castlevania SOTN with that d-pad it's really fucking easy to do some of the spells. I used all fucking kinds of d-pads and I think people just believe that if it's not the sony one, it's gonna roll around and do diagonals by mistake or some shit.

Pricey but I don't doubt it's excellent. I heard about the buttons not being amazing but the d-pad apparently is godlike.

>+ lightbar
"No."

The only extra function the DS4 has that is not an unlikeable gimmick is being able to use the touchpad as a button. The touchpad is worse than laptop touchpads a decade ago, the gyro is only useful for CEMU (I mean, playing shooters with gyro is still objectively worse than a decent mouse) and the lightbar is there to remind you of the battery life and nothing else (because most of the native lightbar support is on Linux, of all places, which doesn't support your ds4windows and even shits the bed with bluetooth). I'd give you the analog stuff, but the analogs on the xbone controller are still better and no modern games really require you to reach those corners.

Kind of regret buying that Bone controller exclusively for PC gaming now.

Oh well.

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>It first and foremost depends on which ergonomics you like the most. Doesn't matter what advantages there are if you dislike the way it feels
Very true, the Xbone controller has better sticks and better button layout which is the most basic thing you need to get right, so by default it's better.

Need for Speed Underground 1 + 2
Star Wars Rogue Squadron

It's weird, but I found a position for 2D games on the xbone controller that somehow allows me to do shit real fast -and- not get tired. Looks weird but goddamn it's good.

God, the dpad on these things is puke inducing. Worst purchase i ever did. I wish i had invested 20€ more for a ds4 or something.
I would have gone for xbone but that shit is expensive as fuck if you don't want to rely on flaky bluetooth.

Btw, why is bluetooth so shit? I have had various dualshocks in the last ten years and all of them had broken bluetooth (constant connection problems), no matter what bluetooth adapter/laptop i used.

I don't know what went on with Logitech, but they fucked it up. The earlier Logitech precision pads (really cheap, no analogs, transparent blue instead of black) had a really good d-pad. It was a circled d-pad but it felt much better and missed not one fucking input, I don't know what they changed.

That's weird. I have a cheap trashy bluetooth adapter plugged to an apple keyboard usb port (and believe me, those ports are absolute ass) and the DS3, DS4 and xbone controllers all worked fine. Just with the DS4/Xbone I can't keep switching between bluetooth and wired unless they're plugged to a charger instead of PC. Xbox one controller I haven't tested differences between bluetooth and plugged in terms of input lag and such because it's a pain in the ass to have to unpair and pair again and do all the shit, so it's difficult to say, but I can't see the difference

you forgot to add the ds4 battery lasts 3 hours.

Xbone or WiiU pro controller are the best choices.

Xbone controllers are all third party junk that break in a matter of months. Get a WiiU controller by Hori or a Steam controller.

The only reason i bought it was because that thing is constantly in the best controllers posts of various "gaming" sites. I should have realized something fishy is going on when it got touted as a "budget" controller even through it costs 35€ here.

I really don't know what was going on with that. it ranged from three pc builds, various laptops, various usb bluetooth adapters, three ds3 gamepads and two ds4.

The only thing common is the house it was tested in. Now that i think about it. My neighbour has a huge ass antenna for his semi amateur radio operation, or whatever it is that he does with it. That thing is not even ten meters away from me...
Well, i have resigned myself to never being able to use wireless controllers, wlan works fine though.

I really wanted a native xbone layout this year but have a hard time finding recent wired xbone controllers, there is only one entry i could find on amazon with a wired xbone controller but that shit seemed to be an old revision and i don't hear good things about the earlier xbone controllers. Bad build quality, shitty dpad, to name a few.

>you forgot to add the ds4 battery lasts 3 hours.
Mine lasts 12 hours on PC... but i am not retarded and i turn off lightbar.

Steam controller for most cases, it's far superior for anything which requires aim or camera control since it doesn't limit itself to clunky analog sticks, has extra buttons on the back which are very useful and is extremely flexible as far as configuration goes (though this also means you may have to make your own profiles or fine-tune community ones to suit you). If you're going to play something like twin stick shooters then a controller with 2 analog sticks may be the best choice, between DS4 and Xbone for PC use I'd lean towards the one you find most comfortable, though the DS4 does have a gyroscope which should be usable in Steam. I don't have a DS4, but if the gyro in the Steam controller is anything to go by, then it's a very nice feature for aiming and as such I'd probably pick a DS4 nowadays if for whatever reason I didn't want to use a Steam controller.

mouse you fucking retard

The only thing I'm not sold on for the xbox is the bumper buttons.

You could just use the newest model of xbox one controller wired. Just buy a decent microUSB cord. Got the advantage of not having to add that little bit of weight with batteries.

Earlier models are iffy with the bumpers, but later ones allow you to click that shit with ease.

Are you telling me that xbone controllers work over usb? Why isn't it mentioned anywhere and why does a wired version even exist then? Fuck this shit, I'm going to search for a datasheet.

DS4 only works under steam's bigmode. Even supported games don't have the button layout, you have to mod it in. For games outside of steam you have to use DS4Windows and, depending on your version, delete the drivers that windows download automatically. It also has issues of conflict with nvidia software.

I wish I could go back and get an xbox controller. A wired xbox360 to be more specific.

Mine with lightbar fully disabled didn't last 8. I guess it depends on which games you play.

>DS4 only works under steam's bigmode.
Nah, create a desktop profile in big picture and you can just let steam run in normal view.

the only relevant option

Yep. Xbone controllers, all of them, work over USB. Later ones in fact -only- work through USB (and receiver) on Windows 7 and 8.1, those don't support bluetooth. And to top it off you do require plugging to USB if you want shit like changing bindings on Windows 10 or update the firmware. You can do that with some W10 app called xbox accessories.

It works perfectly too, just plug and play and it's like you just plugged a 360 controller.

Does an XBone controller functions well on windows 7 ?
I know it needs some drivers, but does it work flawlessly like on windows 10 ?

As an owner of all 3 major controllers, go Xbone.
>Most comfy in the hand
>Battery life that lasts for days on end (t. FFXIV player that likes to grind on the couch)
>Natively supported by all controller compatible games

neither

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I find ds4 to be superior the bumpers and triggers have proven this to me play dmc5 and test both controllers

AAAAAH, god fucking dammit. I thought they did not have any usb due to batteries and their shitty marketing, "wireless" my ass. Fuck this, why did i buy that shitty logitech.
Well, thanks for the heads up. I guess I will get the blue one in a few months.

Only wired/through receiver. Through bluetooth only works on W10/Linux/macOS. Microsoft porting DX12 to Windows 7 but they can't port a bunch of fucking drivers.

Flawlessly though, it works the same as a wired 360 controller. Same functionality, same issues, same advantages. Funny enough there's a bug on W10 that can affect 360 controllers where newer drivers can cause force feedback to get stuck and you have to unplug the controller to stop it, but the xbox one controller has no problems there.

I use both
xbone controller requires no setup, because it's native on Windows and most games are designed with it in mind, so I use it for pretty much everything
dualshock is great and I use it for emulation but there are no native drivers and you need to use shit like xpadder or joy2key to make it work in your games

No problem. I would say, for good measure buy the latest models (1708, look a bit different than earlier versions and support bluetooth). Even if you don't use BT, there's a lot of complaints about xbox one controllers that most usually apply to earlier models.

>He bought into the gimmicks
>Gyroscope aim
>Touchpad controllers

Yeah, i read up about that a month ago. That's the reason why i didn't buy the only "wired" one. It was one of the extremely early ones i feared.
Why does no review mention that it works over usb? Not even the repair guides show any usb port on the mainboard, where the hell is it? I feel retarded and left alone.

Just play on a usb stick, bro.

The Switch ProCon is awesome but very few games have implemented support for it right now.

Does xbone controller works on Win7?
I was using dualshock 3 for the past 5 years and i'm fucking sick of it. I't not only half-broken, it's simply pain in the ass to use. My right arm hurts like hell every time i get tense while playing

>DS4 battery dies
>Have to swap it with another controller or sit 4 feet away from the PC or console
Objectively shit.
t. Idort

Not sure. I guess they figure that people just want a wireless controller and wired is a secondary thing that no one cares about (and is often a cheaper option). But this one can do both. In fact many gamepads can do both, never mention the wired feature. DS3 I thought wouldn't work wired and it does.

...

>That being said, DS4 is factually superior.
>-Has a good D-pad unlike Xbone's
Straight up fucking lie. Fuck off. DS4's d-pad is so fucked that you can press one direction and you'll input 2 directions by accident. If they had separated the buttons like in the DS3 we could have had a decent controller but no, they had to cheap out and give us the shittiest d-pad this gen. I've tried this with 3 different pads and this problem exists on all of them. Xbone's doesn't do this and while it feels a bit clunkier to the touch, you never get accidental bonus presses. And to top it off DS3 is made of cheap plastic that creaks and crunches at the slightest touch. This shit is trash although the sticks and face buttons are nice. Everythign else sucks, including the shitty triggers that get caught on shit and you can even hear the cheap ass coil scratching inside.
>Pads in order of quality and/or usability
DS3 > XBone> Joycons joined at the hip > DS4 > X360
As you can see, the DS4 is in fact inferior

I forgot to mention, on Win 7 I seem to recall it does require downloading drivers, which can be found on the nets but I think MS removed because they are faggots. I read recently that all it really takes is using windows update but I'm not sure about that one.

Are you at the same time claiming you never used any of that while also attempting to imply you have an opinion on how they control? Are you actually stupid, or just 'pretending'?

I had to hunt for the driver
it's a real microsoft signed driver but damn, it just shows that they really pushed hard to get people to move to Windows 10

The DS3 only has a better D-pad than the Xbone. Everything else sucks about it. In fact I can easily get used to the d-pad on the xbone, being honest.

It's a crazy world we life in. One would assume that features are worth mentioning in reviews or just the product page. But information needs to be dumped down, apparently. I only knew ds controllers worked wired because i had them and tried it. Nutella really dropped the ball on that one. Had I known it then I would have bought one years ago.

I think we should somehow petition MS to just fucking release bluetooth drivers for the xbone controller on Windows 7.

You have issues if you play more than 12 hours a day.

Gyro controls are shit and have been since the Wii. And the Steam controller wouldnt have flopped if it werent an overengineered piece of shit. Just because you got used to using an objectively shit control scheme doesnt mean you should evangelize it.

DS3 having separate buttons for the d-pad makes it automatically superior. You never have to worry about your entire d-pad going to shit unlike 360, DS4, Xone after a year, nor do you have to worry about accidentally pressing another direction because of only one shared button. If I wanted that I would just get a fight stick which I do not want. In fact the Switch joycons also have the right idea but their buttons are too far away from each other to make good use of the feature. So DS3 is on top. Xbone has everything else though and probably the best quality and feel of any pad. If they can just separate their d-pad buttons it would be unbeatable

the wireless adapter for the xbone controller is marked as WINDOWS 10 ONLY on the box, even though there are Windows 7 drivers for it too
it's scummy as hell

Is there any issue with charging the xbox one controller while using normal batteries? Mine included 2 energizer ones, they don't seem rechargeable. I can't see the battery level either.

Ive never had a DS4 last longer than 3 hours even with the light bar off.

Same and it was the v2. Guess people play visual novels with a fucking gamepad.

Dont charge non rechargable batteries, user. They can fucking explode.

Mine lasts 10-12 depending how much vibration there is in game.
Playing Yakuza 0 now, quite a lot button pushing and some vibration, pad works for 12h. And i do not use any "xbox pad emulators" but built in steam drivers.

Just roll with the Xbone. The pros of the Ds4 are niche and probably wont effect you really. PCs all recognize Xbone controllers as well where as with the Ds4 you have to download third party systems, not that its complex but out of sheer convenience just go with the Xbone controller.

Oh and it is not v2, and no i have not changed battery for bigger one.

Tell me, user. How is your DS4 magically better than every other one sold in the world and somehow lasts 4x longer before dying on hardware it wasnt built to be compatible with?

any suitable xbone thumbstick replacements? not a fan of the grit-textured edge.

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Yakuza 0? Fuck, is V1 better than V2 on the battery thing?

I played games that were far less button pushing that Y0/Kiwami and for sure that battery wouldn't fucking last 5 hours. It was infuriating. No lights, no vibration, not even fucking with the polling rate thing.

What do you mean mine? Most DS4 work for 4-8h on PS4 with retarded lamp on, it works 10-12 on pc without lightbar. Used 4 DS4 so far in life and they worked perfectly fine for 5 hours co op diablo 3 sessions on ps4. Maybe yours is busted.

>Yakuza 0? Fuck, is V1 better than V2 on the battery thing?
Supposedly battery is better in V2 from what i heard. Mine is white DS4 v1 but i doubt colour has anything to do with it. It's possible DS4windows does something that drains battery quicker? As i said i've only used steam drivers.

I have two. A v1 and a v2 that came with my slim a year ago. Both die if you look at them wrong.

Xbone, PS4 doesn't have enough grip for my giant, 300lb hands.

Sony controllers are always the best all purpose controllers imo

I own and have used multiple controllers from multiple consoles across the years. The Steam controller is easily the best in terms of aiming accuracy and speed, as analog sticks are inherently flawed in this regard (the fact that autoaim is a standard, default feature in console shooters should give you a hint). What's the point of acting like a retard, or is that just a natural thing you cannot control? Do you actually believe you could convince somebody who has hundreds/thousands of hours which each controller type that your literally unsubstantiated opinion is in any way accurate?

That's plausible, you can set the poll rate manually in DS4W. Might have a different default.

Not him but the steam controller could be the best controller in the world and i still wouldn't buy it. It looks just so cheap and retarded, i really can't get over how it looks and reviews paint the same picture. Also missing dpad was a mistake, it should have easily fit in that huge thing.

forgot battery life. stupid light bar uses more battery than anything

While I completely agree with basically everything you've said I don't see a point in using the Steam controller for any game where aiming accuracy and speed matter even remotely. I'd rather just use an actual mouse.
And for the types of games where aiming doesn't matter like platformers or hack and slash games I'd rather have a real D-pad and dual analogue sticks.

True, it can be turned off on pc though.

DS4. The Xbone controller is a steaming pile of dogshit.

Problem with turning the light bar off is you don't even know if it's on and I dunno if ds4windows auto turns off the controller after a certain amount of time but if you leave it on for ages the battery just dies anyway and you'd never even know you accidentally left it on. Sony should have had a glowing PS button like xbox has a glowing xbox button.

Dude, plugging cable into xbone controller won't charge batteries.
But if you really decide to put those batteries (not accumulators) into a charger you are fucking brainlet who skipped chemistry classes and you will get what you deserve.

I am pretty sure Microsoft offers you a customized controller option which isn't much more expensive and you can chose which ones you want

Again, I know not to put non rechargeable batteries on a charger. What the fuck. All I was asking was if I could plug the controller with batteries inside.

Stop being a pleb with c*nsoletrash controllers.

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One button going to shit IS the entire d-pad going to shit you nutter, there's no difference.

Yes, literally nothing will happen since batteries are there only for wireless and won't get used.

Really comfy for melee third person games like Witcher, Nier Tomato and others...

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DS4. Steam ensures its fully compatible with all games I play, and I find it comfier to use.

I actually use this one, myself. I used to use a Dualshock 4, but I'm letting my wife use it for her own stuff and I already picked this up with my Switch so I thought I'd use it for PC too. Turns out it has full support on Steam, so I can use it with anything so long as I run it through Steam. There is also a program out there that converts it directly to ximput that I've used a bit before, but it doesn't let you use the gyro tech like Steam does so I dropped it. I'd say it's worth it and real comfy if you already got one with a Switch or something, but with the price as it was when I bought it (not sure if it's any cheaper these days) I wouldn't recommend getting it strictly for PC, because the DS4 is cheaper and you get slightly more functionality with it than the Pro controller.

>Tl;DR
its good for use on a PC if you already happen to own one, but if not you should buy a cheaper controller because the price is a tad too steep on its own

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I guess its ok for short period of gaming sessions but its a pretty bad controller to be honest, everything feels loose, awful d-pad, no triggers.

Play DMC or Ace combat with mouse, will ya?

I use this for ps4.
It's pretty sweet.

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Analogs on square holes... yeah, no.

There’s 50 different Xbox One controllers which one is the best to get that’s also the newest?

jap game > dualshock
western game > xbone

I fucking love this thing and playing PS4 games is nigh impossible without it.

>mfw I found out that it had a PS3 mode too

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The one with the 3.5mm Jack is the newest

Nintend Switch PowerA wired controller, just plug it in and it starts working immediately.

I have some Batman ones I got from ebay. I actually like the texture but they do get worn away over time, my first XB1 controller lasted about a year before they got too smooth.