This year, we're finally going home, fellas. We're going home

This year, we're finally going home, fellas. We're going home...

Just kidding only an idiot retard that's easily baited by nostalgiafaggotry would be unironically excited for this. Vanilla WoW sucked 15 years ago and it's gonna suck just as much now.

Eat shit vanillafags. World of Warcraft was never a good game. It will never be a good game and it singlehandedly killed an awesome genre of video games with tons of promise.

t. Ultima Online/Everquest player
relevant video youtube.com/watch?v=nvK8fua6O64

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You're wrong, but also right. You're wrong because vanilla was genuinely good and bridged the gap occupying the perfect middle ground between a hardcore mmo and a casual themepark fest, but what happened to it next is inexcusable and it really did ruin the genre. Anyone that expects nublizzard to replicate the same choices made with completely different design decisions in mind, is delusional and it has nothing to do with nostalgia and everything to do with evidence already presented by what the company is like right now, completely out of touch with their playerbase, standoffish if not outright spiteful, only in the pursuit of revenue.

BASED and youtubepilled

I can see why people might like vanilla wow for gameplay reasons. The delusion I see though is the idea that the community was better than the current games, in my opinion the playerbase was always dumb shitters and assholes. It was one or the other and I think that is where the rude awakening is going to set in for the people who were twelve when the game came out and realize they don't have their friends from school anymore to play with and they have to actually engage with WoW's awful community that has been shit forever.

We went from pic related to linear as fuck character progression as seen in babby's first MMO World of Warcraft

Goddamn you Blizzard cocksucking niggers to hell.

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What class and race for Classic?

who fucking cares it's surface level bullshit like coke vs pepsi and don't get me started on alliance vs horde retarded tribalism

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Undead priest

>trusting the same people who ruined retail to not ruin classic vanilla
Are you a shill or just retarded?

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Imo the community wasn't better in vanilla, but you were forced to interact with other players more

It's less about what the playerbase is actually like and more about how the game makes people interact with others. It's just as game among all others, so it draws people from about the same set of people. Pick two random games and you'll find that their playerbases most likely overlap, although one game may draw people more like x and the other more like y (replace x and y with any human trait).

That's why there was nothing particularly special about the playerbase in vanilla, and why there won't be now either. However, even if you have the exact same playerbase, you can get massively different behavior from them in different games. Put them in one game and you'll find that they will hardly talk to each other, put them in another and they'll spend a lot of time raging at their teammates, put them somewhere else and they'll get along fine. Vanilla with its design seemed to encourage positive interaction, made it easy to find people you got along with and fostered a good community.

This.

>implying shitty nu-blizzard can manage to make a great MMO in 2019

stay mad denial fags

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is it possible to become relevant in Vanilla without raiding?

Even 15 years ago when they were considered great, they weren't. They just made overproduced, soulless garbage that was streamlined enough for your average braindead retard that could operate a computer past an installation screen to play their shitty game.

The only remotely original thing they've ever put out of quality was Diablo and that dude left the company almost 20 fucking years ago.

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Agreed, Blizzard is the most overrated company in all of entertainment and I can't believe anyone is unironically excited for the game they played 15 fucking years ago because a bunch of nostalgia-baiting fuckheads on private servers convinced people who likely never even played the original that it was TOTALLY BETTER AND AWESOME BRO

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Videos wrong though, WoW was never good. Not only did it ruin MMOs by making every MMO into a clone of it, but because the basis of WoW is also shit.

Saw the video a long time ago. I don't think he's saying it's a good game, he's just saying it's good for what it was and what it was is a surface level "you are the chosen one go do linear quests/dungeons/raids" MMO"RPG"

Even I'll admit it's successful in what it tries to do, just that what it tries to do is shitty and dumb and ruined the entire genre for everyone.

>matrix online
>its fucking real

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It's real and it was pretty cool user. You missed out. Would've played it more if Star Wars Galaxies wasn't eating up my time back when it was still the most amazing game ever made.

Dwarf Hunter or Undead Warlock I can't decide aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I changed my mind 20 times already

Vanilla WoW was never good because 2/3rds of its specs were useless, and it took no less than 8 years until WoTLK came out for them to fix that.

FUCK WoW and FUCK minecraft. Wurm 2 when?

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From what I've read, ret paladin leveling slows down even more somehow around level 45. Would this be the proper time to respec to an aoe grinding/tanking build?

never ever and why would you want it? procedural gen without a decent algorithm is a meme. Wurm was just a shitty supplement for The Elder Scrolls Chapter III:Tribunal we never got

daily reminder that Daggerfall was going to get a sequel where players would've replaced NPCs and would've been the first 3D MMO a whole two years before Everquest came out.

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>blaming Blizzard for making what the market wanted

Don't you respec to reck build in the early 30s or something for the quickest leveling?

that's going off of private servers. the "spamming /sit to get hit and crit by mobs to quickly build reckoning charges" won't work on retail. I'm thinking about a build like this to aoe farm and tank: classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/paladin/AswQAz8fDQM_DMw

Problem is the market didn't even have a chance at knowing any better. EVE Online was too inaccessible, Star Wars Galaxies was cucked by George Lucas coming in and focus testing the game because he was butthurt that a RTS spinoff MMO was outperforming the only Star Wars massively multiplayer online game on the market. Ultima Online was almost a decade old at that point and Turbine turned Middle Earth Online into Lord of the Rings Online "be the unseen, unsung hero of JRR Tolkien's trilogy" when it was intended to be Ultima Online in 3D in Middle Earth.

What a shame. People didn't even get a chance to decide what was better.

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>procedural gen without a decent algorithm is a meme
Wurm doesn't have procedural gen

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You are right, but that video is just terrible.

That is part of my point though. Eve is inaccessible for the same reason that Wow isn't.

Ultimately, most gamers (even most MMO playing people specifically) are not all that interested in more spreadsheet-y games. They appeal to a very limited crowd that enjoys that kind of micromanagement and planning, but are boring to most players. WoW did well precisely because it was accessible and simple to just jump into even in Vanilla. Sure, if it hadn't given people what they wanted and shown other companies what the successful model was, you might have gotten a few more spreadsheety MMOs, but they'd be small and low budget just like they were up to that point.

The truth is that for better or worse, people decided what was better.

>the "spamming /sit to get hit and crit by mobs to quickly build reckoning charges" won't work on retail.
What? Why wouldn't it?

Huh, the video was very informative. And I must say, the author has a point.

>What? Why wouldn't it?
it was something exclusive to private servers, and I believe TBC onward. The Vanilla server files that private servers use today was originally a TBC server, built backwards to become a Vanilla server.
From 2006:
>Can I sit down to force a crit and gain a charge? Charges will not generate off auto attacks or npc attacks by trying to sit down and force a crit. However, ability crits from physical abilities such as Sinister Strike, Hamstring, Auto-shot, Aimed shot, etc will generate a charge if you're sitting.

Huh. How about that. Then yes I guess. You might be better off swapping over.

Same thing also applies to the warrior shit like enrage and blood craze.

>condemns nostalgiafaggotry
>commits nostalgiafaggotry himself
hmm...

cringe

it was an alright game with a really good community. the login was also kino as the world turned from code to realistic

>youtube.com/watch?v=nvK8fua6O64
I just want an MMO where you are limited to a single character and crafting is a character option you invest in at the cost of combat stuff.

>buttmad vanillafag
hmmm....

there will be many things that are different from how they are on private servers. it'll be interesting to see people acclimate to the way things are supposed to be.

migrate. let this shit thread be wiped from the buttcrack that is 4channel

>nooo please don't insult muh classic WoW

t. butthurt shit-eater nigger
imagine having such a sad life that you need to post this

So this is the maturity of WoW fans....impressive...

Imagine being this defensive over a corporate product made solely to fleece money out of NEETs and their mothers

It must be nice enjoying your little echo chamber over there. Simulating the community WoW:Classic will garner at launch preemptively. Outside of an echochamber of nostalgia circlejerking faggots, no one gives a fuck!

is that Gigaboomer ?

This. Blizzard outside of its little echo chamber is already pretty fucking irrelevant so watching a bunch of delusional nostalgiabaited fucktards convince themselves that they're "going home" and it's going to be 2004 all over again is pretty funny.

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dunno

were going home bros, no matter what these sad negative fools say

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o yeah? you think you do but you don't lmao
stop having fun
stop finding joy in things
stop having hope
stop having something to look forward to
be as miserable as me because misery loves company

unironically neck yourself

HOME

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I always knew WoW players were homosexuals. Stop trying to convince people to join your circlejerk. Just make a /vg/ thread and be done with it.

Fuck you

>being this infatuated with homosexuals
let me guess, you also have mommy issues?

You're the one posting a bunch of topless wojaks hugging each other in a circle

You're not the only one who finds the vanilla WoW community to be extremely homoerotic. I'm pretty sure if an IRL meetup happened that I'd be offered a blowjob by several neckbeards just because I belong to the "community"

Just imagine having a sense of "community" because you all played the same shitty MMO fifteen fucking years ago.

Actually I'm not. That's someone else. Also:
>he equates hugging with homosexual intercourse
do you also see homosexuals when you look at an ink blot test? or when you look at the clouds?

Linear shit started with EQ and being restricted to 1 class

>being this buttblasted about an image of wojaks hugging eachother
the absolute state of Yea Forums holy fuck

>tamer mage

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I'm not surprised. This samefagging "home"posting is obnoxious at this point.

Forced meme. Hide and report.

How WI Final Fantasys expansion Shadowbringers fare against classic wow?